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Friday, July 27, 2018

Outsourcing unemployment

I'll bet they're celebrating landing this contract:
Tata Consultancy Services (TCS) (BSE: 532540, NSE: TCS), a leading global IT services, consulting and business solutions organization, and the Wyoming Department of Workforce Services (DWS) are celebrating the launch of a new Unemployment Insurance system this week - WYUI - for the State of Wyoming. The WYUI solution is a fully modernized Unemployment Insurance system that will improve the way claimants interact with the state with a more user-friendly interface and expanded self-service capabilities.

TCS' WYUI solution is a robust, scalable and repeatable platform with the ability to integrate and control multiple functional requirements, including online claims processing, payments, adjudication, and appeals. The WYUI implementation is also one of the first in the United States to be developed, tested and implemented in Microsoft Azure in such a short time frame, and within budget. Hosting the new system on Azure makes it more scalable than the previous system, and as the data housed in the system continues to grow, the system itself can be expanded.

TCS has already enabled several U.S. states to modernize their systems to support Unemployment Insurance programs, including Mississippi and Maine, as part of the ReEmployUSA Consortium. By partnering with Wyoming's DWS, TCS has replaced a 34-year-old benefits and appeal legacy system with a modernized system, within a span of less than 20 months.

About Tata Consultancy Services Ltd (TCS)
Tata Consultancy Services is an IT services, consulting and business solutions organization that has been partnering with many of the world's largest businesses in their transformation journeys for the last fifty years. TCS offers a consulting-led, cognitive powered, integrated portfolio of IT, Business & Technology Services, and engineering. This is delivered through its unique Location Independent Agile delivery model, recognized as a benchmark of excellence in software development. A part of the Tata group, India's largest multinational business group, TCS has more than 400,000 of the world's best-trained consultants in 46 countries.
What a truly virtuous cycle! Put American workers out of work, then get paid to process the transfer payments between the state government and the unemployed workers. Imagine how much money can be transferred to Indiasaved by replacing the entire Social Security Administration with Tata Consultancy Services!

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104 Comments:

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother July 27, 2018 11:18 AM  

Now Wyoming residents can get the same experience as your average porn star.

Blogger dienw July 27, 2018 11:21 AM  

The Indians are very much aware of what "tata" means in English: say "Tata" to your domestic IT industry.

Blogger freddie_mac July 27, 2018 11:25 AM  

Given how the gubernatorial candidates are talking about trying to move the state away from a boom and bust economy, this really makes sense, right? Pity the deadline has passed for submitting questions for the Aug 1 debate -- would have loved to see the 10 candidates squirm.

Blogger Ingemar July 27, 2018 11:30 AM  

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Blogger FALPhil July 27, 2018 11:33 AM  

You get what you pay for. My experience has been that massive portions of TCS code often have to be rewritten in order to function correctly, and in some cases, the design has to be overhauled. In the end, it may be cheaper to do it the right way with American developers. And this is not just true of TCS, but applies to most Indian pure-play companies.

Blogger Salt July 27, 2018 11:36 AM  

It's a feather in India's cap, getting Wyoming to sign on such a multi-dot line.

Blogger kh123 July 27, 2018 11:42 AM  

Wondering if we should just encourage Pakistan to go for it at this point. They have the means and the disposition; it's not as if the Ganges is going to get any more polluted from a nuke or two. And it's not as if the corporate cultists here aren't going to lemming themselves (and everybody else) off a cliff in search of a quarterly stock increase by gaming their company expenditures.

Blogger Zaklog the Great July 27, 2018 11:46 AM  

Excuse me. I need to go consult some ta-tas. *Opens up private browsing tab*

Blogger kh123 July 27, 2018 11:51 AM  

"In the end, it may be cheaper to do it the right way with American developers."

Yes, but we want those savings now. So that we can push paper and look increasingly productive or profitable. If we don't spend, then we save. If we don't eat, then we don't ever have to go to the store. No domestic labor pool, no problem. Also, something something progressive, something or another Great Society, blah blah sacrifice to idols in high places, etc. You see the dilemma that we're in.

Blogger pyrrhus July 27, 2018 11:53 AM  

I wonder what the contract provides about performance and cost overruns incurred fixing the code? I'm guessing that they're not nearly adequate, given the crappy quality of most State government attorneys...Or is this a sweetheart deal?

Blogger RobertT July 27, 2018 11:54 AM  

Fu*k WY, MS, MO. This kind of thing needs to be killed dead. Indian wages are a tremendous competitive advantage US can't overcome w/o tariffs. 90% of American businesses with distributed workforce take advantage of Indian wages. Smart, capable, cheap.

Blogger pyrrhus July 27, 2018 11:56 AM  

"In the end, it may be cheaper to do it the right way with American developers."

Hopefully they will call in American developers to fix the problems caused by the Dots, and charge it back to Tata...That's why the contracts provisions are so important.

Blogger James Dixon July 27, 2018 12:00 PM  

> Smart, capable, cheap.

Eh, not so much so. Only cheap. The voters need to be asking their legislature why they can't be outsourced to India at 1/10th the cost.

Blogger pyrrhus July 27, 2018 12:04 PM  

From the Wyoming website:
TCS' proactive stance on climate change and award winning work with communities across the world have earned it a place in leading sustainability indices such as the Dow Jones Sustainability Index (DJSI), MSCI Global Sustainability Index and the FTSE4Good Emerging Index.

The Globalist fix is in...

Blogger Daniel Paul Grech Pereira July 27, 2018 12:11 PM  

Horrifying.

Blogger phunktor July 27, 2018 12:14 PM  

YU? I HB1 4 CHEAP!
THANKS FOR THE JOB, SUCKER

Blogger Stilicho July 27, 2018 12:15 PM  

Irony... it's not just a ferrous metal anymore...

On the other hand, Democrats and cuckservatives have been outsourcing the vote for decades, so...

Blogger tz July 27, 2018 12:20 PM  

Apparently Wyoming does not need more Cowboys (the recent Wyoming University ad), it needs more Indians!

Blogger Skyler the Weird July 27, 2018 12:27 PM  

Me: I need to get this hard drive replaced on my new desktop. It stopped working.

Indira: Wants me to hit function key to run diagnostic at startup I argue I know the drive is dead but relent.

Indira: How many hardrives is it showing?

Me: None.

Indira: ?

Me: None

Indira:?

Me: Zero.

Indira: ?

Me: Can I Speak to an American?

Indira: Kibittzes but transfers me to a Canadian.

Bob McKenzie: Sure you're under warranty we'll ship a new hard drive right

Blogger Doktor Jeep July 27, 2018 12:32 PM  

Imagine jobless American developers creating an AI program that replaces HE departments.

Blogger Damelon Brinn July 27, 2018 12:33 PM  

Outsource the work of paying unemployment to the people the outsourcing unemployed. It's like poetry, it rhymes.

I was listening to an interview with Chuck Peddle, creator of the 6502 CPU. He's in India (or thereabouts) now, and he was talking about how you have to go there to get enough capable people. (He at least admitted that's not a good thing for the US, instead of trying to claim it benefits everyone.) But as he talked, it became clear that he's counting on a numbers game: with a billion people to choose from, there *must* be some brilliant ones, right? He also talked about factories full of women doing detailed hand-work, so I don't think it was really about the potential programmers.

Blogger Avalanche July 27, 2018 12:35 PM  

@5 "In the end, it may be cheaper to do it the right way with American developers"

No no! The absolute standard ruling governmental rule: we NEVER have the money or time to do it right; we ALWAYS have the money and time to do it over!

(Why aren't Wyomingingingers raising high holy hell about outsourcing? Are they supposed to be a conservative state? Or are there only 29 of them across the whole state who ARE unemployed?)

Blogger Avalanche July 27, 2018 12:37 PM  

@11 " ...Indian wages. Smart, capable, cheap."

Pick the last one (only) and you've hit it!

Blogger Resident Moron™ July 27, 2018 12:38 PM  

"Or are there only 29 of them across the whole state who ARE unemployed?"

No, there's only 29 of them who have unemployment insurance.

Blogger Damelon Brinn July 27, 2018 12:48 PM  

@22, The globalists have done a good job of generating class warfare between people in different fields. For instance, many farmers and ranchers look down on computer programmers as soft losers who should be happy to sit on their asses for dirt cheap to compete with those hard-working Indians. The programmers likewise see the farmers as uneducated dolts who should be happy to punch cows or pick crops for dirt cheap to compete with those hard-working Mexicans. There's very little crossover sympathy for "fellow Americans," especially between white- and blue-collar. That goes for "conservatives" as much as anyone, because of how much they love telling people they just need to work harder.

Blogger MrNiceguy July 27, 2018 1:14 PM  

On the other hand, in the Trump economy, that unemployment system is hardly going to be used. The major cost savings come from replacing an entire data center with a Raspberry Pi plugged into a few potatoes. (They also get to claim it as a "green energy" project.)

Blogger Chris Ritchie July 27, 2018 1:16 PM  

Just an observation. I'm in IT in the South. I've watched these Indian programmers come here and live 4 to an apartment - no families. They walk to work or take the bus. They'll work for less than half of what American developers will work for. Why? Because they are living in a lower lifestyle. Who wants to have 3 roommates and no wife or children? Rising tide raises all ships? More like sweeping the ships out to sea with the low tide.

Whenever I try and make this point with the "free trade" crowd, I'm (((drowned out))) with the same tired arguments. People won't even look at the evidence. It's frustrating.

Blogger Scott July 27, 2018 1:17 PM  

What is perhaps worse, the American software companies that compete with Tata are replete with Indian labor. Many dev organizations are either outsourced or consist largely of Indians, ranging from H-1B to second gen U.S. citizen. American universities are also stuffed with Indians, usually pursuing a grad level degree to augment their an Indian undergrad degree.

Employing one Indian starts the infection. If given hiring responsibility an Indian will hire other Indians exclusively, regardless of status. They mostly pursue management positions; from an early age they are conditioned to believe executive-level management is their destiny. But mostly they are middle managers with hiring responsibility, thus the ant farm ensues.

So, personally, until the Great Purge of Epic Proportion, I'd rather the DWS go with Tata and keep more Indians in India. (shrug)

Blogger Joeplanet July 27, 2018 1:34 PM  

My wife is trying to hire some developers. Request was sent back to her from HR for a business case as to why the applicants had to be American.

Blogger maniacprovost July 27, 2018 1:40 PM  

@29 If you intensively micromanage every subtask of the software development, you don't need Americans.

I actually think that "outsourcing" is a bigger source of inefficiency than the quality of the employees. They could be OK code monkeys but you're still not going to get the desired outcome.

In order to make the idiotic outsourcing decision at all feasible, you have to use a low cost labor supply.

Blogger S1AL July 27, 2018 1:45 PM  

"(Why aren't Wyomingingingers raising high holy hell about outsourcing? Are they supposed to be a conservative state? Or are there only 29 of them across the whole state who ARE unemployed?"

If you're unemployed in Wyoming, you're either unhirable or don't want a job.

Blogger Warunicorn July 27, 2018 1:46 PM  

They don't even hide it anymore, do they? They even seem proud of their globalism.

Pffft.

Blogger maniacprovost July 27, 2018 1:47 PM  

I should add this... I use Indian subcontractors. I actually like them. They do what they're told in India and send me the results. It's a waste of money because I only have them do rote tasks that should be eliminated entirely and done by no one, but they're good guys.

Blogger Looking Glass July 27, 2018 1:55 PM  

Joeplanet wrote:My wife is trying to hire some developers. Request was sent back to her from HR for a business case as to why the applicants had to be American.

She should probably tell HR that sounds like illegal "Country of Origin" discrimination.

Blogger Amy July 27, 2018 2:09 PM  

Wyo is my dream state as far as relocation. Disappointing to read this. Hubs is a tradesman. Welder and beyond. Salaries vs COL don’t look great, though. We aren’t going anywhere anytime soon.

God I hate NJ. One of those places you can’t afford to leave, or stay. Courage, Willow...

Blogger freddie_mac July 27, 2018 2:14 PM  

Indian subcontractors are good at following a script (@19), but thinking outside of the box -- or connecting the dots -- tends to be beyond them.

Earlier this week, I was notified that an online file was missing some code. It happens on occasion, as the code in question is inserted after the product is "finished," so if the product is resupplied, then the extra code gets stripped out.

So, I went through the nonsense on my end to unlock the file, and emailed the vendor that this file would need to be resupplied and here's what needs to be added.

Two days later, I asked where the replacement file was. Their response? "You need to send us a new PDF file." So, I had to explain to them (again!) that the change is needed to HTML only (no PDF involved). Then, when they asked me to supply the correct coding, I had to dig up a recent example of when they'd done it properly and tell them to copy that.

Then there's the time when the Indian tech guy (working from the corporate US office) sent my replacement laptop across the continental US ... via ground. I had to call and explain that he needed to send it next day air; otherwise, I wouldn't receive it for a week.

As you can tell, using Indian vendors greatly increases the efficiency of Western companies. /sarc

Blogger Bastion Harm July 27, 2018 2:30 PM  

freddie_mac wrote:Indian subcontractors are good at following a script (@19), but thinking outside of the box -- or connecting the dots -- tends to be beyond them.

Absolutely, positively 100% confirmed.

I see this literally on a daily basis, and have for the past 10 years.

Pajeets are good at doing monotonous, repetitive tasks such as running automated tests. But, as soon as those or something else breaks down...you can forget about them trying to fix things. Because, as you accurately observed, they cannot connect dots or think outside the box. When things break down, they have to be told what to do and how to do it.

They make great slaves.

Small wonder globohomo loves them.

Blogger CarpeOro July 27, 2018 2:32 PM  

"A part of the Tata group, India's largest multinational business group, TCS has more than 4,000 of the world's best-trained consultants in 46 countries."

Fixed that for them. The truth is that after they are outsourced to, many outsource companies hire a few of the ex-employees to do the actual work and train the 10 to 1 replacement workers (10 for every one American because the replacements are not very competent - the good ones leave once they get some skills and your left with the less skilled). Want to eat away at your companies efficiency and long term bottom line? Outsource. I did contract work back to one company that outsourced me two separate times - because the Indians promised more trained personnel than they could deliver. I heard from a friend that made the transition to the outsource company that their favorite solutions to issues was to delete the system from the support application scope. Let that sink in.

Blogger Badpainter July 27, 2018 2:43 PM  

To bad we can’t require this contract to hire a bunch of H1b Indians and make them work from a remote site somewhere between Medicinebow and Casper.

Blogger Brick Hardslab July 27, 2018 3:04 PM  

Can you imagine calling unemployment to hear unintelligible jibberish? It dawns on you the state could have hired you to answer the stinking phone. Too bad we'll never hear about how badly people get screwed

Blogger Insight July 27, 2018 3:19 PM  

This development makes a good argument to do away with .gov unemployment insurance.

Blogger Duke Norfolk July 27, 2018 4:51 PM  

As I read through that I was waiting for the punch line. And surprise, surprise, f'ing India. Of course.

We just keep cutting our own throats.

Blogger Cetera July 27, 2018 4:51 PM  

Avalanche wrote:@5
(Why aren't Wyomingingingers raising high holy hell about outsourcing? Are they supposed to be a conservative state? Or are there only 29 of them across the whole state who ARE unemployed?)


Wyoming is almost universally conservative, with a couple of caveats. Jackson is where all the globalists and Californians go to, and while it is beautiful, it is a political shithole.

The University in Laramie attracts all the wrong crowd, too, and is the second most liberal area of the state.

Outside of those places, politics almost isn't even an issue. Everyone votes Republican, and no one thinks twice about it. That's the real problem. No one thinks about it. No one has to fight over it. No one has to defend their values. No one has to confront the liberal claptrap. No one actually needs to practice any discernment at all. That's how you get RINOs in charge all up and down the GOP in Wyoming. It is the most good-ol-boys' network you've ever seen, and most of them aspire to be John McCain.




S1AL wrote:

If you're unemployed in Wyoming, you're either unhirable or don't want a job.


Definitely not true. Wyoming employment is fickle. It doesn't have the population base or financial base to support most needed occupations and services. The entire state budget is boom-and-bust due to reliance on coal, but the small towns need modern, 21st century tech workers that they can't maintain. If you work in any high-tech anything in Wyoming, it is a guaranteed certainty that you WILL be laid off at some point, and will be forced to move, probably out of state, and in the meantime you are unlikely to get promoted or develop further. Everyone tries to defend their little turf because they don't want to be forced to move out-of-state either, and there isn't another shop for 150 miles that employs someone that does what individual X, Y, or Z does, let alone have an opening.


Amy wrote:Wyo is my dream state as far as relocation. Disappointing to read this. Hubs is a tradesman. Welder and beyond. Salaries vs COL don’t look great, though. We aren’t going anywhere anytime soon.

God I hate NJ. One of those places you can’t afford to leave, or stay. Courage, Willow...


NJ sucks. Been there, never going back. Wyoming will not save you. Born there, raised there, moved away, moved back. If I'm ever financially independent, I'll happily go back to Wyoming. But it isn't a life boat.

Blogger Cetera July 27, 2018 4:53 PM  

edit to 43: Born there, raised there, moved away, moved back, moved away again.

Blogger S1AL July 27, 2018 5:07 PM  

"Definitely not true. Wyoming employment is fickle. It doesn't have the population base or financial base to support most needed occupations and services."

Maybe 20-30 years ago, not now. You have boom-bust workers, sure, but most of those guys are going where the jobs are. And if you get laid off and need a job, there are literally more open positions than people everywhere in the state.

Now, if you want to stick with a particular kind of work in a particular industry, then yeah, you run the same risk as you do anywhere. You can be in the largest city on the planet and face the same problem.

Blogger OneWingedShark July 27, 2018 6:14 PM  

Damelon Brinn wrote:@22, The globalists have done a good job of generating class warfare between people in different fields. For instance, many farmers and ranchers look down on computer programmers as soft losers who should be happy to sit on their asses for dirt cheap to compete with those hard-working Indians. The programmers likewise see the farmers as uneducated dolts who should be happy to punch cows or pick crops for dirt cheap to compete with those hard-working Mexicans. There's very little crossover sympathy for "fellow Americans," especially between white- and blue-collar. That goes for "conservatives" as much as anyone, because of how much they love telling people they just need to work harder.
Indeed; it's pretty brutal. But you need to add in an age-factor, too; the Boomers who doubled down on outsourcing, so they wouldn't have to pay training, are absolutely unwilling to admit any fault and instead it's "you bunch of lazy Xers/Millennials/Zers! Pull yourself up by your bootstraps like I did!"...

The truly infuriating thing about all of this is that it's all by design to kill off a whole sector of middle-/upper-middle class citizens, replacing it wholesale w/ foreigners. One stone, lots of birds: (1) the savings depletion as the citizen looks for a new job, (2) the devaluation of the citizen's skillset [foreigners shamelessly lie, cheat, and steal their resume], (3) the market becomes "flooded", while at the same time having a "shortage" thanks to the "10 years REQUIRED experience for ENTRY-level job", (4) which is used to justify ever more H1Bs.

From /pol/:
Can we get some action against the H1B and H2B fraud?

A well run RICO case should put several huge tech companies out of business, but this is NOT a bad thing: this will allow small- and mid-sized businesses to pick up the slack and spur a lot of innovation.

> 18 U.S. Code §1351 - Fraud in foreign labor contracting
> 18 U.S. Code §1546 - Fraud and misuse of visas, permits, and other documents

Another thing that would be good to do, as it would cut out a lot of funding for corruption and bought politicians, is to use an EO directing the Patent and Copyright offices to invalidate ALL patents and copyrights not held by the original author/inventor; this also eliminates the "patent trolls", and it is all merely strict reading of the Constitution: “To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries;”

Blogger papabear July 27, 2018 6:17 PM  

Any way for weaponized autists to take down the servers of such companies?

Blogger Damelon Brinn July 27, 2018 6:24 PM  

Whether jobs in general are available isn't the point. We don't have to wait until a bunch of people are out of work because too many industries have been exported and Americans have run out of new careers to try like a bad game of musical chairs, and wages have stagnated for however many years while this went on, before we start objecting to the situation.

Blogger Francis Parker Yockey July 27, 2018 7:59 PM  

Employing one Indian starts the infection. If given hiring responsibility an Indian will hire other Indians exclusively, regardless of status.

This is true of most racial/ ethnic groups that are not of European descent. Add in government-mandated anit-white racial preferences, and...

Blogger tz July 27, 2018 8:55 PM  

Cowboys v. Indians.
I'm forming a posse.

If I submitted the UI for the replacement unemployment system I'd be embarassed, or have to explain I only had 3 hours, or had to do it after consuming mass quantities of the local microbrews. It is really that bad and when asked locally I plan not only to go into detail but to maybe spend 3 hours doing a total retrofit that is 1000% better.

@14 - much thanks on the 2nd level we need to unemploy Wyomingits.

@19 Amazon has indians at least two levels deep but the supervisors will do huge credits as they are equally clueless and not able to argue. (my "saved for later" zapped half the items that just returned today).

@27 spot on.

@28 in-group preferences. Until the Cowboys shoot at the indians.

Blogger tz July 27, 2018 8:56 PM  

@29 "Because I want the product to work!"

Blogger tz July 27, 2018 9:08 PM  

@33 so they minimize the negative revenue?

@35 This is an exception that is unlikely to hold, especially since I plan on using a flame thrower on the candidates. I removed it, but "This Means WAR!" and I've opened my dark world box (ref: Ivan Throne).

@36 They are going to destroy us if it comes to that. Imagine if they were German or Japanese in 1939.

@39 laughter tothe point of hyperventilation. However there are better places. IT Indian reservations?

@40 WY still has locals for all phones so far. It is one of my tropes that my local city hall that handles utilities works great, but anarcho capitalists would rather me "press 3 for english" to talk to a pajeet. (I don't know how bad 'pajeet" is as epithet, but I hope it is extremely insulting)

@43 I don't call it Jack Shithole for nothing.





Blogger Dirk Manly July 28, 2018 3:35 AM  

@11

"Fu*k WY, MS, MO. This kind of thing needs to be killed dead. Indian wages are a tremendous competitive advantage US can't overcome w/o tariffs. 90% of American businesses with distributed workforce take advantage of Indian wages. Smart, capable, cheap."

No, they aren't smart, and they aren't capable. They're just cheap.

But not cheap enough to be worth hiring them at any price. In fact, in general, not hiring ANYBODY to do the job is better then hiring Indians.

According to a study by the Indian national government, 70% of their computer programming graduates can't even write a program that COMPILES into executable code. Of that 30% who can, only 1/3 of those (10% of the original pool) can write code that actually produces the correct behavior. Of those who managed to write code that both compiles and produced correct behavior, only 40% (4% of the total pool) could write code that used the PROPER data structures and algorithms that are appropriate for the assigned task.

Seriously, if you're thinking of hiring Indians into your IT department, your money would be better invested in buying ammo for firearms mounted on CREWS systems in all of the executive offices, tracking the head of whoever is sitting behind the desk.

They are that destructive.

Blogger Dirk Manly July 28, 2018 3:41 AM  

@29

"My wife is trying to hire some developers. Request was sent back to her from HR for a business case as to why the applicants had to be American."

Because Indian developers are the leading cause of project failure.

Blogger Dirk Manly July 28, 2018 3:43 AM  

@33

"I should add this... I use Indian subcontractors. I actually like them. They do what they're told in India and send me the results. It's a waste of money because I only have them do rote tasks that should be eliminated entirely and done by no one, but they're good guys."

Which means we're talking about work that is at grade-school intellectual level; work that is nowhere close to the difficulty of software development.

Blogger Dirk Manly July 28, 2018 3:52 AM  

@42

As I read through that I was waiting for the punch line. And surprise, surprise, f'ing India. Of course.

Government Cronies just keep cutting our throats.

=============

There, I fixed it for you

Blogger Dirk Manly July 28, 2018 3:56 AM  

@47

"Any way for weaponized autists to take down the servers of such companies?"

Given that they're being run, supported and secured by Indians.... Even something as outdated as a massive LOIC attack should do the trick.

Blogger Dirk Manly July 28, 2018 3:58 AM  

Remember... run the attack from s USB sticks, stuck in the rear-facing ports of PC's down at the local public library. You don't YOUR IP address involved in any of these attacks.

Blogger OneWingedShark July 28, 2018 9:53 AM  

papabear wrote:Any way for weaponized autists to take down the servers of such companies?
That's a stupid idea for several reasons:
(1) Illegality,
(2) Short-term,
(3) Easily fixable,
(4) Does nothing to address the problem.

A much better idea would by to look into the company; given how prevalent H1B-fraud is in the industry it's likely that some weaponized autism could gather enough evidence to build a pretty good legal case.

Blogger Raghav Hegde July 29, 2018 2:17 AM  

LOL.

Blogger Raghav Hegde July 29, 2018 2:24 AM  

You effing morons don't get it. In the knowledge economy borders are meaningless. I consider TCS to be a relic of the 1990s/early 2000s. We have moved on from that business model. When you fight "IT sweatshops/outsourcers" like TCS, you are fighting yesterday's battle. You have no idea how fast things have been changing. Anyway.

Blogger Raghav Hegde July 29, 2018 2:28 AM  

TCS is our (Indian) version of IBM. IBM was powerful once, but going nowhere today. At least the IT part of their business is going nowhere.

Blogger Raghav Hegde July 29, 2018 2:31 AM  

The future belongs to nimble, flexible, skilled, independent knowledge workers who can work anywhere and can be from any part of the world.

Blogger Raghav Hegde July 29, 2018 2:41 AM  

Of course, since they (TCS) are a large company and an Indian company at that, they make for a convenient target for frustrated racist white trash.

Blogger Dirk Manly July 29, 2018 7:53 AM  


Raghav, shut up, you dick-brained low-life with your fraudulent degree. YOU are part and parcel the problem.

I've worked with Indians for most of my IT career. Invariably, they are the dumbest shit-heads in the department. Even dumber than the American blacks.

Blogger Dirk Manly July 29, 2018 7:55 AM  

@63
"The future belongs to nimble, flexible, skilled, independent knowledge workers who can work anywhere and can be from any part of the world."

I'll fly 10,000 miles to go shoot anyone who is a threat to my country. Done it before, will do it again. I've also been 2nd in command of the supercomputing center of the world's largest auto manufacturer.

So, Raghav, What do you got?

Blogger Dirk Manly July 29, 2018 8:02 AM  

"TCS is our (Indian) version of IBM. IBM was powerful once, but going nowhere today. At least the IT part of their business is going nowhere."

IBM resting on it's laurels still solves more problems and still creates more new WORKING, BUG FREE products than anything or anybody I've seen out of India.

The fact is, Indians have the worst problem-solving skills I have ever seen of any ethnic group in the world that I have come in contact with. And those are the "suuuuuper duuuuuper smart ones" who were able to get into the computer science programs in India [which produces graduating classes consisting of 60% who can't even write code that compiles, and another 30% who can write code that compiles, but which doesn't do what it's supposed to do. -- If I did that as even a FIRST YEAR student, I would have flunked my programming courses -- and yet in India, you can still get a degree with such a moronically low level of achievement. A mail-order degree from some scam-artist degree-mill attached to a hippie commune in California is worth more than any degree from India, judging on the performance of those who hold degrees from Indian universities).

Blogger Dirk Manly July 29, 2018 8:04 AM  

Now, Raghav, cease and disist from insisting that the Indian H1-Bs are anything other than the parasites that they are, or I'll reveal more sordid details about the utter lack of quality, performance, and ability displayed by Indians working in American IT departments.

Blogger Raghav Hegde July 29, 2018 8:09 AM  

"I'll fly 10,000 miles to go shoot anyone who is a threat to my country. Done it before, will do it again. I've also been 2nd in command of the supercomputing center of the world's largest auto manufacturer.

So, Raghav, What do you got?"

LOL...so you're going to fly 10,000 miles to shoot people for developing websites, writing code, answering phone calls or whatever for U.S. based businesses? Fuck1ng moron.

Blogger Raghav Hegde July 29, 2018 8:10 AM  

Awesome....Indians are so stupid and yet you lose your job to them or work for them. How stupid are you then? Haha.

Blogger Raghav Hegde July 29, 2018 8:15 AM  

"Now, Raghav, cease and disist"

Are you for real? Calm down grandpa, or you're gonna have a heart attack.

Blogger Dirk Manly July 29, 2018 8:18 AM  

"LOL...so you're going to fly 10,000 miles to shoot people for developing websites, writing code, answering phone calls or whatever for U.S. based businesses? Fuck1ng moron."


For STEALING while pretending to build websites, while actually not doing it themselves, but begging other Americans to give them help with this, that, and the other thing, hell yes.


I don't need to fly 10,000 miles -- you vermin are crawling all over IT departments within a stone's throw of where I live.

I've been involved in too many projects which were given to Indians, which utterly failed, and I was part of the crew that had to clean up the utter disaster that resulted, all while going over budget.

Money that SHOULD have been spent paying me, and other people who actually know what they're doing in the first place, rather than importing you sidewalk-shitting incompetent arrogant assholes.

Blogger Dirk Manly July 29, 2018 8:20 AM  

I won't even go into the time that one of your cohorts was so incompetent that he decided to backup a backup tape to the root partition of a $30,000 SGI computer, taking it out of action for a week. That was at the Warren General Motors Tech Center, Powertrain Division, Engineering Analysis Department.

I can write these stories until your eyes bleed. Keep it up, asshole.

Blogger Raghav Hegde July 29, 2018 8:21 AM  

"I don't need to fly 10,000 miles -- you vermin are crawling all over IT departments within a stone's throw of where I live."

Okay....I hope the FBI/police look into this guy. That's it.

Blogger Dirk Manly July 29, 2018 8:21 AM  

LIke I said, Cease and Desist, or I will mop the floor with you unmercilessly.

Blogger Dirk Manly July 29, 2018 8:21 AM  

You think the FBI are gonna give a fuck about some incompetent H1B winding up dead?

Blogger Dirk Manly July 29, 2018 8:22 AM  

By the way, asshole nepotism is not competence.

Blogger Raghav Hegde July 29, 2018 8:26 AM  

Red Flag #1: Dirk Manly: "I'll fly 10,000 miles to go shoot anyone who is a threat to my country. Done it before, will do it again."

Red Flag #2: Dirk Manly: "I don't need to fly 10,000 miles -- you vermin are crawling all over IT departments within a stone's throw of where I live."

Red Flag #3: Dirk Manly: "You think the FBI are gonna give a fuck about some incompetent H1B winding up dead?"

Blogger Dirk Manly July 29, 2018 9:02 AM  

Hey, Asshole, I'm a highly decorated veteran of the United States Army.

My oath is to defend my country from all enemies, both foreign and domestic.

YOU are an enemy.

Killing you and your ilk will be ruled a public service.

Blogger Raghav Hegde July 29, 2018 9:23 AM  

Right, right, time to take your meds grandpa. Bye.

Blogger Dirk Manly July 29, 2018 9:37 AM  

I can still put a bullet through your chest before you even know I'm around.

With iron sights -- no scope.

And I'm not Grandpa. I'm STILL in the Army.

Blogger Raghav Hegde July 29, 2018 9:51 AM  

Listen you fucking moron, you are not scaring me or anybody by repeatedly threatening to shoot people. You have only raised red flags with the FBI. They monitor such blogs closely and I won't be surprised if you get a call from them.

Blogger OneWingedShark July 29, 2018 11:14 PM  

Raghav Hegde wrote:Awesome....Indians are so stupid and yet you lose your job to them or work for them. How stupid are you then? Haha.
It's quite easy one of two ways:
(1) Bean-counters seeing that you make $X,000 /yr notes that they could hire multiple Indians for that price. [Completely ignoring the real-world value of institutional knowledge.]
(2) An Indian in a hiring position, either hiring-manager or HR, will display very, very strong in-group preference. [I've heard it described as a cancer; much like SJWs.]

Blogger Dirk Manly July 30, 2018 4:15 AM  

"Listen you fucking moron, you are not scaring me or anybody by repeatedly threatening to shoot people. You have only raised red flags with the FBI. They monitor such blogs closely and I won't be surprised if you get a call from them."

You see, when you act this arrogant while a guest in someone else's country, is why you will be killed.

Maybe not today.
Maybe not tomorrow.
But you're the type who is too stupid to leave before the streets and airports are FILLED with men carrying rifles and shotguns looking for anyone and EVERYONE who looks like you.

Blogger Raghav Hegde July 30, 2018 5:11 AM  

"You see, when you act this arrogant while a guest in someone else's country, is why you will be killed."

LOL...so I am acting arrogant. You're acting like a Nazi serial killer, you fucking moron. Sure, there might yet be a time when the world is full of Nazi serial killers like you. But we are not there yet. As of today, the law takes care of thugs like you.

Blogger Dirk Manly July 30, 2018 6:08 AM  

Yes, you are arrogant.

You're in the country that INVENTED computers, you substandard, no-talent hack.

As for the law... I am the law, you retard.

Blogger Raghav Hegde July 30, 2018 1:38 PM  

"You're in the country that INVENTED computers, you substandard, no-talent hack."

Listen you f#cking moron. Countries don't invent stuff. People do. There are a number of people behind the invention of the computer. Google search Vinod Dham - the Intel engineer who is considered to be the father of the microprcessor chip. He is from India.

Even if a "country" did invent something you had nothing to do with it you fool. Stop basking in reflected glory you good for nothing loser.

"As for the law... I am the law, you retard."

LOL...nah, you're just a frustrated loser and clearly an idiot.

Blogger Dirk Manly July 31, 2018 6:46 AM  


"Listen you f#cking moron. Countries don't invent stuff. People do. There are a number of people behind the invention of the computer. Google search Vinod Dham - the Intel engineer who is considered to be the father of the microprcessor chip. He is from India."

Listen here, YOU f!cking Moron, no ONE person invented the computer. Computers were invented by a society.

Of course, you, being an Indian, wouldn't understand the concept of inventing, considering that NOTHING has been invented in India, other than "this street is reserved for public defecation"

You are a rude, arrogant, unhelpful, and negative-value providing guest. It's time for you to go back.

Back to what you know best -- streets paved with shit.

Blogger Dirk Manly July 31, 2018 6:48 AM  

And YOU are not Vinod Dham.

Vinod Dham is a genius.
You are a lackluster midwit -- the type who, when given control of a server holding customer information such as charge card numbers, fails to secure it properly, and the information on it then gets stolen by hackers. But no big deal to you -- because it's not YOUR countrymen getting ripped off.

Time for YOU to go back.

Blogger Dirk Manly July 31, 2018 6:51 AM  

As for "reflected glory"

I was the first person to demonstrate that image recognition could be implemented purely in hardware on a single chip inside a satellite. My prof who asked me to do this said that the entire faculty of one of the most advanced computer engineering schools in the world said it couldn't be done.

I designed the circuit, and it was put into production.

I was a 3rd-year student at the time.

What have YOU done?

Blogger Raghav Hegde August 01, 2018 3:00 AM  

"What have YOU done?"

LOL....doesn't matter what I've done. At least I'm not a self-deluded f#ck like you who boasts about imaginary achievements one day or threatens to shoot people the next.

Blogger Dirk Manly August 01, 2018 7:41 AM  

@91

""What have YOU done?"

LOL....doesn't matter what I've done. At least I'm not a self-deluded f#ck like you who boasts about imaginary achievements one day or threatens to shoot people the next."

Yes, it DOES matter what you have(n't) done.

IT is a demanding field which REQUIRES creativity to be done properly.

And Creativity is something which Indian culture has absolutely, completely eradicated.

You want to work in the west, without totally fucking everything up, go into accounting. It's what India and Indians are actually good at.

Blogger Dirk Manly August 01, 2018 7:42 AM  

As for "deluded".... U.S. Army records show otherwise.

Blogger Raghav Hegde August 01, 2018 10:10 AM  

LOL....thanks for the career advice :) I checked your U.S. Army records. They show that you worked for 20 years as a military nurse. Good on you!

Blogger Dirk Manly August 01, 2018 11:44 AM  

BZZZZZZZZZZT! Wrong, Mr. No-Accomplishments-Besides-Fraud

Tactical Combat communications (platoon, company and battalion level) in combat arms units.

Blogger Dirk Manly August 01, 2018 11:47 AM  

Again, if you're so qualified to work in the I.T. sector, tell us about what you've done?

How many VLSI chips have you designed?
How many were put into production?
How many were put into use in spy satellites?
And how much of that did you do before even graduating from your shitty Indian University where I.T. students riot because "they're going to make the tests too hard" surrounded by streets full of shit, and where parents and friends are passing cheating materials in through the windows while exams are going on.

You people suck. You're nothing but con artists.
If you could actually do what you say you can do, you wouldn't have to cheat on exams, and you wouldn't have to lie on your CV.

Blogger Dirk Manly August 01, 2018 11:50 AM  

And by the way, my military accomplishments are IN ADDITION to my work in the civilian sector in I.T. ... where, for some strange reason, I have never once met a competent Indian.

In fact, the ONLY legitimate H1-B holder I've ever met was a man who is an expert on electro-magnetic heating for heat-treating metals, such as automotive parts. He's the world's premier expert -- because his father invented the field, and literally nobody else alive knows as much about it as he does.

Blogger Raghav Hegde August 01, 2018 7:31 PM  

LOL....you f#cking moron....where did I ever say I had anything to do with the IT industry or lived in the US? LOL. How many words have you wasted on me you fool? Haha. Get a life, idiot. Get a job or something.

Blogger Raghav Hegde August 01, 2018 7:34 PM  

You think you're upsetting me with your rants? You are only making me laugh you witless nincompoop.

Blogger Raghav Hegde August 01, 2018 7:36 PM  

But you are too much of an idiot to realize how much of an idiot you really are. Haha.

Blogger Dirk Manly August 02, 2018 9:47 AM  

And yet, I accomplished more while still a STUDENT than what you have accomplished in your entire career.

Why is that?

Blogger Raghav Hegde August 02, 2018 9:37 PM  

"And yet, I accomplished more while still a STUDENT than what you have accomplished in your entire career."

LOL...I am sure most people accomplished more than me as students, I was a dropout. Struggled for a while and now have a reasonably successful internet business of my own. Where do I live? Where's my business? My business lives in my laptop and goes wherever I go. Is it the next Amazon? No. But it makes me enough money so that I can live comfortably, take care of myself, be debt-free and not look for a job and certainly not work for OR with idiots like you. LOL.

About you?
You are a fool, racist and a bigot who dehumanizes those that don't belong to his nationanlity/color/religion. You are a Nazi but without Hitler's Nazi Army to back you up. You seem to be deeply frustrated and depressed. Anyway, take your meds.

Blogger Dirk Manly August 02, 2018 9:45 PM  

When India finally figures out INDOOR PLUMBING, despite having 5,000 year head start on the USA, you be sure to tell us when you and your countrymen no longer shit in the street.

That's not racism, or bigotry... that's CONFIRMABLE FACT, bucko.

Blogger Raghav Hegde August 02, 2018 9:53 PM  

"When India finally figures out INDOOR PLUMBING, despite having 5,000 year head start on the USA, you be sure to tell us when you and your countrymen no longer shit in the street.

That's not racism, or bigotry... that's CONFIRMABLE FACT, bucko."

LOL. What's the fact? That I shit on the street? LOL.

What do I have to do now to disprove the fact? Send you a picture of me shitting in a feakin' toilet?

As I said, you are a racist and a fool. Vox Day is a racist too, but he is no fool. Anyway.

Low information idiot.

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