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Wednesday, July 11, 2018

Qanon: a user's guide

Neon Revolt helpfully breaks down the significance of Q and what it all means:
The world has long been held hostage by a group of power-brokers I have collectively labelled “The Cabal.” They sit in seats of power around the world, making sure they control governments, wars, money flow, and even now the lives of individuals like you and me. They see us as disposable pawns, a sort of natural resource they can spend at will, and this Cabal seeks to grow and expand its power every single day, through all sorts of subversive action, be it class strife, fomenting economic instability, or sending us to die in foreign lands under the guise of patriotism and duty.

The Cabal is not entirely monolithic, but features many different branches. Despite this, they work together and their goals are much the same: the destruction of the West by any and all means, and the creation of a global mega-state.

A large portion of The Cabal are members of a Secret Society that is little more than a Neo-Babylonian Death Cult, and the higher you advance in the cult, the more mutual blackmail is required of you. You see, the higher ranking members want the ability to destroy the lower ranking members at any time. This is achieved through several means, but recording individuals in honeypots, pedophilic acts, and participation human sacrifice are the primary ways in which this is achieved.

That’s not to say this is done against the will of the individuals being blackmailed. Often, they are willing participants in all this, and enjoy performing these kinds of evil deeds. Such is the face of depravity.

Hillary and Obama are two such members of this Cabal, and though they were high ranking, they are not top dogs (and certainly not since HRC’s failed presidential run in 2016). That day cost them so much power and influence, they didn’t even know what to do. Remember – Hillary didn’t even give a concession speech that night. That was because they never expected her to lose.

Together, as we’ve since learned from the Q drops, they were plotting the complete destruction of the USA (and Russia). And I don’t mean that in some esoteric sense of empires collapsing and coalescing into new empires across time, like the murmurations of flocks birds across the sky. No, I quite literally mean nuclear war, mass drought, disease, and food shortages. I’m talking roving death squads in the streets. The goal was to wipe out two of the biggest threats to the Cabal by making them fight each other, and rule over a fragmented, atomized, neo-Fascist global mega-state, made up of whatever was left over (mostly Europe, Africa, parts of Asia, South America, and Australia).

Remember when I said don’t be surprised if you feel incredulous when reading this?
As hard as it is to believe all of the stuff that has come out to varying degrees so far, as difficult as it is to credit, rest assured that it is Christians who are going to have the most difficult time accepting the degree to which their understanding of not only the world, but their own faith, is incorrect.

Just to be clear, I am not saying that Christianity is false. To the contrary, the more we have learned about the Cabal, its beliefs and objectives, and its methods, the more we have learned that Christianity is not only absolutely true, but absolutely vital. Jesus Christ is truly Man's only hope in a world ruled by evils both spiritual and material.

The Storm is coming. We don't know the day or the hour, but it is coming. And we should quite literally thank God for Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin, both of whom stand between us and all the raging, raving, rancid evil of the Cabal. Pray for their upcoming meeting, pray that both men be granted wisdom and courage, and pray that they are victorious over the evil that seeks to destroy Christianity, Christendom, America, and Russia.
About two-thirds of Russians believe in the existence of a shadowy world government, and most of them also believe it is hostile to their country, according to a recent survey. On Wednesday state-run Russian public opinion research agency VTSIOM released the results of a poll in which 67 percent of Russian citizens said they believe there is a secret world government. Twenty-one percent said they reject the possibility that it exists, and the rest were undecided.
It's time Americans started to catch up to the Russians again.

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Blogger Taignobias July 11, 2018 11:09 AM  

I don't want to believe it.

But I have seen many evils in this world. And such was promised by the prophets and our Lord Jesus Christ.

God be with us.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash July 11, 2018 11:13 AM  

Is neonrevolt.com down? I can't pull up the page.

Blogger Okrane S. July 11, 2018 11:13 AM  

Any evidence for all of this or are we supposed to believe it just like kids believe in Santa?

I find it telling that the same people who believe in such an esoteric concept like God to explain the complexity of the world we live in, are also the ones who will readily believe that there's a massive conspiracy at hand to explain bad outcomes instead of millions of independent actors making choices in a complex system which can sometimes lead to chaos.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to troll here; I'm perfectly willing to accept what you are saying provided I see some strong evidence to point in the direction of your conclusion. I am genuinely curious here, but not convinced.

Thanks

Blogger Snidely Whiplash July 11, 2018 11:17 AM  

If you believe in the existence of Satan, the Liar, how can you not believe in the existence of a cabal?

Blogger Keyser Soze July 11, 2018 11:23 AM  

The Cabal is real as it reflects the nature of unsaved men. Within the shadow they compete for ultimate power and that is their flaw, their weakness, the fissure that can be exploited.

Blogger Tars Tarkusz July 11, 2018 11:27 AM  

All out nuclear war between Russia and The US would kill most life in the Northern Hemisphere. Between the spread of ash cooling the Northern Hemisphere and the spread of radiation throughout the NH, only God knows what percentage of people would die and what % of other life forms would die.

Even without nuclear winter and radiation poisoning affecting the NH, the destruction of these two countries would throw of the rest of the world into disarray that would take decades to recover from.

Blogger North July 11, 2018 11:27 AM  

People get murdered in robberies over $200. Is it possible to believe murder, blackmail, conspiracy, treason, rape or torture are not happening in a fight over control of trillions of dollars?

Blogger Lazarus July 11, 2018 11:28 AM  

Okrane S. wrote:Any evidence for all of this or are we supposed to believe it just like kids believe in Santa?

Qanon research has been going 24/7 on since last November. Good luck catching up.

Blogger VD July 11, 2018 11:33 AM  

Any evidence for all of this or are we supposed to believe it just like kids believe in Santa?

You're too short for this ride.

I find it telling that the same people who believe in such an esoteric concept like God to explain the complexity of the world we live in, are also the ones who will readily believe that there's a massive conspiracy at hand to explain bad outcomes instead of millions of independent actors making choices in a complex system which can sometimes lead to chaos.

That's because you're a stupid, irrational atheist. Ignoring obvious patterns is your specialty. As is dishonesty; we are not talking about chaos here. Chaos is random. There is absolutely nothing random about an evil that is following a course that was specifically described nearly 2,000 years ago.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to troll here; I'm perfectly willing to accept what you are saying provided I see some strong evidence to point in the direction of your conclusion. I am genuinely curious here, but not convinced.

You will never be convinced because your identity depends upon not being convinced. Any evidence provided to you will immediately meet with a redefinition of evidence. Even if you tell us what evidence will convince you, you will change your mind as soon as it is presented to you and claim that it is just the result of complexity and time.

So, no. Either do the work yourself or continue to believe everything happens for no reason. It makes no difference to me.

Blogger VD July 11, 2018 11:35 AM  

Note to spergs: I said "chaos is random". I said nothing about chaos theory, which is about finding deterministic order in apparent randomness.

Blogger Insight July 11, 2018 11:35 AM  

"Any evidence for all of this or are we supposed to believe it just like kids believe in Santa?"

When the satanic/occult try to co-opt you with some of the things mentioned above you'll know it then...

http://alt-market.com/articles/3469-globalists-are-telling-us-exactly-what-disasters-theyre-planning-for-the-economy

Blogger Reno Chris July 11, 2018 11:37 AM  

This is an old conspiracy theory - older than Vox himself. In days gone by the "cabal" were the Illuminati, the Trilateral commission, the New World order, etc., etc., etc. It has been employed extensively for fiction including by notable authors like Umberto Eco and RA Wilson. Yes, there is a force behind the evil of this world. His name is Satan and he has many followers of this world, both direct and indirect. And yes, he targets Christianity and Judaism as well. But is there an organized group of individuals who run the planet as a shadow government? There is little or no evidence to support the allegation. Only in so far as the The prince of this world and his demons are influencing those who are willing and able to do evil.

Blogger Salt July 11, 2018 11:37 AM  

The Invisible Government, by Dan Smoot (1962)
None Dare Call It Conspiracy, by Gary Allen (1971)

This isn't new.

Blogger Almodavar July 11, 2018 11:38 AM  

Here's the webcache...the original page is down. https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:ZfBnLyaolrUJ:https://www.neonrevolt.com/2018/07/11/who-is-qanon-an-introduction-to-the-qanon-phenomenon-qanon-greatawakening/+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=ph

Blogger Shimshon July 11, 2018 11:45 AM  

@9 "You will never be convinced because your identity depends upon not being convinced."

This just happened to me. A Facebook ex-Friend was successfully trolled by the recent FART Act. I pointed out he was trolled. He then denied it and challenged me to prove that the FART Act stories were not some unintentional error by Trump (who is of course, a buffoon). I of course declined.

This is what I wrote to him:

What is evidence, [redacted]? A single story could be written off as coincidence. A hundred (or even hundreds) starts to look like a pattern. To me. To you, it's just a hundred coincidences. A news story, published by one or more of the Usual Suspects, that always seem to lean in one direction (unfavorable in some way to the Trump Administration), show some degree of absurdity (the FART Act, Manafort pleading guilty to manslaughter, and so forth), that in the end, when followed up at all, but even if not, are proven to be complete falsehoods. Planted stories leaked to a willing media. Or coincidences.

Blogger Jason July 11, 2018 11:46 AM  

Until Christ returns and Satan is bound (Revelation chapters 19 and 20), swords will continue to be swords (not beat into plowshares) and men will continue to learn the ways of war. Satan's lies, murders, and evil will continue to foul the earth and deceive humanity.

For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places. - Ephesians 6:12

Blogger lazlo azavaar July 11, 2018 11:48 AM  

"I'm genuinely curious..."

Yes, I'm sure you are.

Blogger Johnny July 11, 2018 11:52 AM  

It is no wonder the Russians feel paranoid. The Europeans have long had a thing about Russia. Push comes to shove, when the Russians are involved, the European powers will side with each other first. But then Russia has long been a predatory power.

I doubt there is a "Cabal" because I consider it unnecessary. People of a similar type who have a common interest are quite capable of colluding with each other even without a central authority. And that does seem to be true. The ultra-rich and very powerful do manage to operate in their mutual self-interest most of the time. Organizations come and go, but the mutual self-interest of the very powerful remain.


Blogger Amy July 11, 2018 11:53 AM  

I used to watch The Blacklist, an NBC fantasy-crime drama. Lost interest for lots of reasons. Taking down “The Cabal” was Reddington’s raison d’être by season two-three. They were written as the Shadow Gov, the controllers of all things politic, economic, informatic. Total control, with the sheep happily grazing in the matrix.

I sometimes wonder if they just cannot help signaling their presence. NBC is part of SJW Central Command. I cannot believe they would be so bold and subversive as to plant such a seed of resistance. They gave the audience a steak for salivation, then after a long rest, gave us gristled mince as comfort (as we watch plot lines fizzle and Lizzie become even more of a parody of a Mom and Unwitting Russian Spy). Oh, yes, Russian spies and their children are still plotting against you! How clever, to introduce that particular bête.

Blogger pyrrhus July 11, 2018 11:55 AM  

It has long been obvious to those who practice law that certain institutions, corporations, families, and individuals are essentially immune to criticism, legal process and national or international law...If they get caught doing something really bad, like the Rockefellers trading with Germany during the war, they offer up one of their servants (Press Bush) for a ceremonial slap on the wrist, and he later becomes a US Senator...The same occurs at the local level where, say, the Daleys or the Pritzkers can engage in massive corruption, and only their enemies or flunkies attract the attention of the media or law enforcement. It's a very tight international club, and you're not in it...

Blogger VoodooJock July 11, 2018 11:59 AM  

They might not have a formal central authority, akin to Ian Fleming's fictional "SPECTRE", but they certainly do collude at places like Bohemian Grove et al.

Blogger tuberman July 11, 2018 12:00 PM  

18. Johnny

"I doubt there is a "Cabal" because I consider it unnecessary. "


So the takeover of the British currency, in 1815 and the USA Fed in 1913 to control their banks, by the same families was not a cabal conspiracy. MPAI.

Blogger Lazarus July 11, 2018 12:00 PM  

Amy wrote:I sometimes wonder if they just cannot help signaling their presence.

From what I understand, they are required to signal their presence. Hiding in plain sight.

Blogger NewAnubis July 11, 2018 12:01 PM  

Accepting this premise as I have for quite some time, it appears that Putin for a LONG time has been going it alone. Imagine that for a moment.

Blogger Alphaeus July 11, 2018 12:03 PM  

It's impossible to read the book of the Revelation of Jesus Christ to St John without seeing that the kings of the earth and the merchants of the earth and the religious misleaders of the earth are all in cahoots with Satan and his Beast.

I think it's not "Christians" per se as such who can't accept the plain truth about the world. I think it's Cuckchurchian misleaders who pretend not to see and lie to their followers about what is going on and what is bound to happen. Most of the Birchers I've know have been Christians, though, never of the conventional Cuckchurchian type.

Blogger KPKinSunnyPhiladelpia July 11, 2018 12:06 PM  

Anybody who has spent any time at all in any extensive market knows the power and usefulness of networks. Pick any business -- food, retail, banking, pharma -- and all the key players know each other and all the key players more or less think the same way. Sure, there are disruptors, folks who go their own way, but for the most part, groupthink is the norm.

In other words, all networks have a conspiratorial quality to them, some more than others.
Now by that I don't mean half a dozen folks sit around and pull the puppet strings. True conspiratcies are very very hard to pull off.

But if you think about, the impulse to network is deeply human. It is a tribal instinct. Yes, that's right -- the globalist elite is a tribe. A very powerful tribe with a deeply held belief system that is religous in nature, and we all know what those beliefs are. They don't hide or obfuscate those beliefs. They are transparent about them.

The problem with this particular tribe is that there simply is not underlying morality about them. Their motives are acquisitive -- wealth, power -- and status for status stake. They are amoral. And amorality inevitably leads to evil, and evil outcomes, given that the motives are impure in the extreme and their contempt for others "not them" is complete

Blogger AnvilTiger July 11, 2018 12:12 PM  

The reason the cabal is coordinated (and thus a cabal) is due to the Lowerarchy. The Lowerarchy (demons) are organized in a chain of command. They influence their victims to commit the following: demon invocation, sexual depravity, infant sacrifice, and cannibalism. Always those four categories. Most of the cabal members are unaware of the fact they are puppets, because they are unaware that demons influence them by placing thoughts in their heads. They think the thoughts are their own (due to lack of self awareness). So yes - there is a cabal.

Blogger Rabbi B July 11, 2018 12:15 PM  

"...rest assured that it is Christians who are going to have the most difficult time accepting the degree to which their understanding of not only the world, but their own faith, is incorrect."

Indeed.

For we did not follow cunningly devised fables when we made known to you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but were eyewitnesses of His majesty....and so we have the prophetic word confirmed, which you do well to heed as a light that shines in a dark place, until the day dawns and the morning star rises in your hearts; knowing this first, that no prophecy of Scripture is of any private interpretation, for prophecy never came by the will of man, but holy men of God spoke as they were moved by the Holy Spirit. (cf. II Peter)

Blogger Salt July 11, 2018 12:21 PM  

"I'm genuinely curious..."

Where's the evidence for that?

Blogger AnvilTiger July 11, 2018 12:21 PM  

To follow up - a useful set of perspectives (separate papers) on the powers behind the cabal may be found here: The Journal of Christian Reconstruction: Symposium on Satanism

Blogger Nate July 11, 2018 12:23 PM  


the storm is always coming... soccer is the sport of the future in the US...


Blogger English Tom July 11, 2018 12:23 PM  

Good job you put that note in for The spergs Vox.

Blogger Tom Jones July 11, 2018 12:24 PM  

“I’m genuinely curious” is the atheist version of “fellow white people”

Blogger Azimus July 11, 2018 12:27 PM  

Spend some time on the Council on Foreign Relations' own website. Nobody's operating in secret here. What they don't do is draw for you the end game - that is for you to decide what you think it is going to be - and while a specific detailed vision is elusive, its fairly obvious where the train is headed. After that you simply have to ask - what input do I have on these massive social engineering projects? And voila! A red-piller has been born.

Blogger Daniel Paul Grech Pereira July 11, 2018 12:28 PM  

Many scales have fallen from many eyes. I'm ready to fight for it.

Blogger Lovekraft July 11, 2018 12:30 PM  

@ 26 KPK:

"The problem with this particular tribe is that there simply is not underlying morality about them."

Exactly. One has to find out what I call their 'moral center' or the fundamental basis on which they make moral decisions.

Blogger RobertT July 11, 2018 12:34 PM  

Voltaire — 'In the beginning God created man in His own image, and man has been trying to repay the favor ever since.'

Blogger OneWingedShark July 11, 2018 12:35 PM  

Okrane S. wrote:Any evidence for all of this or are we supposed to believe it just like kids believe in Santa?
There's lots of evidence, but the biggest problem in communicating is going to be worldview; for example, in Christianity we know how things end, because of the Revelation to John: there will be a world government, there will be a world religion, both of these are set directly, purposefully against Jesus… and they lose. — From this perspective, what you would perceive as “confirmation bias” is more akin to soldiers on patrol in a war-zone, where they know there's enemy activity spotting something suspicious. (i.e. even if it's a false alert, it's perfectly appropriate behavior, even if there's been two dozen false alerts before.)

You can look at things like the above mentioned banking-cabals that have striven to establish themselves across the world, and how the nations that are being invaded/opened up are those that either don't have such central banks (eg North Korea) or were planning on making their own (eg Libya). (There are many others, but perhaps things like banking, war, and law [who's "untouchable"] are the best to piecing it together.)

If you are serious about proof, the best that can be had is not something I can give you, but the Holy Spirit can: pray and ask God to show you the truth.

I find it telling that the same people who believe in such an esoteric concept like God to explain the complexity of the world we live in, are also the ones who will readily believe that there's a massive conspiracy at hand to explain bad outcomes instead of millions of independent actors making choices in a complex system which can sometimes lead to chaos.
The thing is that all these “independent actors” result in things that are not independent, not random.

Much like the Republican party here in the US: if they were merely incompetent, yet strove for what the party claims to be about, they would have some successes somewhere; but as our host points out “conservatives have conserved nothing” — Take, for instance, guns: if they were pro-2nd Amendment, why is it that "pro" always means status quo and not trying to repeal GCA or NFA? — Take, for instance, smaller government: when was the last government agency dissolved, not merely re-organized somewhere else? (The conclusion, by their fruits, is that the Republican party is about NONE of its stated party planks.)

When you're looking at “flocking behavior” the aggregate of the actors is what's being evaluated, not (per se) the individual.

Blogger Lovekraft July 11, 2018 12:37 PM  

@ 2 Snidely:

re NeonRevolt. Yes, over the past week, it and numerous other non-approved sites have been volatile. I found this alternate source in today's NR post:

https://old.reddit.com/r/greatawakening/

Blogger Lovekraft July 11, 2018 12:40 PM  

Going through Solzhenitsyn's "200 Years Together" (that was posted here recently) I found the 18th century history of Russia had certain patterns, one being that this group, once it became established enough, used its financial might to protect and expand, as well as engaging in abominable usury and peddling of alcohol that eventually led to enslavement of the natives.

https://thechosenites.files.wordpress.com/2015/10/200-years-together.pdf

But I keep come back to that Roger Waters lyric:

"The Germans killed the Jews, and the Jews killed the Arabs, and the Arabs killed the hostages and that is the news. Is it any wonder, that the monkey's confused?"

Blogger Servant of the Chief July 11, 2018 12:44 PM  

Honestly, the sheer scale of the degeneracy and the satanic evil, if Q anon is even half legit, is terrifying. We have never seen anything of this scale in the entire history of mankind. Even the overt empire of communism that was the Soviet Union and its insidiousness, was but an arm of this thing.

Half the governments on Earth are either directly or indirectly controlled by these bastards (Ireland is owned outright, holy shit), and cutting them loose is... I don't even know how to go about describing it, its that big. The only things that ever came close were those ridiculous theories about aliens controlling all the governments from the back scenes. Turns out they were right, just trade out aliens with soul sucking, baby killing, satanic pedophile communists.

Blogger Death to the Intolerant! July 11, 2018 12:47 PM  

I was convinced of the existence of a central steering group of globalist plotters by the way that the 'evil Russia' redux narrative seemed to spring from the ground fully formed sometime around seven years ago. That led me Gen. Flynn's Al Jazeera interview ,in 2012?, where he all but admitted that US government factions were supporting Al Q. By an implausible chain of events, I got to speak to GE to be DJT at some length, where one of the many topics discussed was how to disseminate such explosive revelations without collapsing faith in state institutions entirely. I'm pretty sure that the name Q was floated during that discussion along with a system using tripcodes on the chans. It may have been myself who came up with the name, but wouldn't swear it as memory is kind of hazy as it was over five years ago. The real question is whether Q is explicitly sanctioned by GE, or another participant in that meeting took it on themselves to follow the template discussed on their own initiative. I can say 100% that it isn't just a larp.

AKA Country Dog

Blogger RobertT July 11, 2018 12:50 PM  

Great post. God Bless Trump. God Bless Neon Revolt. & Vox. Cutting edge stuff. But there's a long way to go and I'm contributing nothing.

Blogger Elijah July 11, 2018 12:51 PM  

the beginning of the end will be if the cabal manages to harm the second amendment. it is the only real stumbling block. men with guns can hold there own, at least for a while against the various plots.

evidence is the lies and twisting of the facts that has gone on concerning the so called mass shootings. there are less today then in the 1970's but the media lies and claims there are more and if the public loses interest a new mass shooting occurs, even though they appear to be false or faked.

Blogger Ingemar July 11, 2018 12:55 PM  

>members of a Secret Society that is little more than a Neo-Babylonian Death Cult

The Bohemian Grove?

Blogger Tars Tarkusz July 11, 2018 12:56 PM  

Given the consequences pointed out in my earlier post (#6), I seriously doubt that this cabal would have deliberately wanted something like that to happen.

Even if the consequences of that war could be avoided, what guarantee would they have that the war would be confined to Russia/US?

Could they stumble into a war? Possibly. But I seriously doubt anyone wanted it, simply out of self-preservation.

Blogger Crew July 11, 2018 1:01 PM  

Neon Revolt claims that when Obama is revealed to have been an illegitimate president (ie, ineligible for the position) his SC appointments will be null and void.

https://www.reddit.com/r/greatawakening/comments/8xsy6s/neon_revolt_sotomayor_and_kagan_by_virtue_of_them

However, where in the constitution does it provide for dealing with the appointments of an illegitimate president?

Blogger Alphaeus July 11, 2018 1:01 PM  

" (The conclusion, by their fruits, is that the Republican party is about NONE of its stated party planks.)"

Someone once said that if you want to understand what's going with an organization, think of it as having been taken over by a cabal of its enemies. Or something like that.

If you oppose the expressed aims of the Republican Party, the most effective resistance is to take the thing over without destroying it which would cause a replacement to be created. You gut it and wear its carcass like a skin suit.

In the present iteration of the game the DemonicRats are the Overt totalitarians whilst the Redumblicans are the Covert wing of the same cabal. If you like totalitarianism you can support it directly by supporting the DemonicRats. If you hate totalitarianism you can't effectively oppose
it, you can only support it indirectly by supporting the Redumblicans who exist to fool you in to
thinking you're opposing totalitarianism.

Even long after you've figured out that something is rotten in Redumblican Denmark you still have no place else to go because you found out that Libertarian Denmark is just as rotten.


Blogger James Dixon July 11, 2018 1:03 PM  

> Is neonrevolt.com down? I can't pull up the page.

The page refuses to load at my work location, but loads from my home computer (Teamviewer FTW). Make of that what you will...

> I find it telling that the same people who believe in such an esoteric concept like God to explain the complexity of the world we live in, are also the ones who will readily believe that there's a massive conspiracy at hand to explain bad outcomes instead of millions of independent actors making choices in a complex system which can sometimes lead to chaos.

Millions of independent actors? Right. Your understanding of human nature is woefully incomplete. By and large, people simply don't operate independently when there is an advantage to be gained by operating as a group. This goes all the way back to our hunter gatherer heritage.

Blogger Death to the Intolerant! July 11, 2018 1:05 PM  

Tars, the resistance to accepting that there exists a batshit-insane cult ready to kill and enslave billions on the basis of their beliefs is precisely why Q was formed.

Blogger Crew July 11, 2018 1:06 PM  

I would expect real info to start coming out before the mid-terms. Say, September or October ...

Blogger Crew July 11, 2018 1:11 PM  

Neon Revolt is timing out for me from home. It has been very spotty.

Blogger Looking Glass July 11, 2018 1:13 PM  

Having discussed this over the years, and especially these days, I find reminding people that Satan is devious & evil beyond your comprehension helps explain a lot of the questions about "how can this go on for so long? how can they all work together?". Well, they normally aren't meeting in dark, secret rooms to plot world domination. No, they do it in really fancy places with good lighting & fine food. They don't really hide it because even the ones at the top aren't actually in control, and, when you control the information flow, you can cover up any issues that arise.

It's hard for most to understand that you're under oppression from plans laid out hundreds of years ago. As Christians, huge amounts of the issues we're dealing with come from a period in the late 1700s & dedicated moves to destroy Christian Theology. For the RCC congregants, they're dealing with actions taken in the 1800s to flood the clergy with Marxists & homosexuals.

But the Elites also have surprisingly small amount of room to operate in a lot of ways. They can never get away from the "why don't you & him fight?" strategy as their corruption approach doesn't produce too many willing to fight for them directly. They also require an information arbitrage advantage. That's why modern communications has caused them so many problems.

This also explains the hatred of normal Americans among the Cabal. A bunch of people that won't die for their causes are a problem for them. Especially when those plucky backhills Americans have a pretty good ability to turn into History's Greatest Butchers.

Blogger Dirk Manly July 11, 2018 1:14 PM  

@18

"It is no wonder the Russians feel paranoid. The Europeans have long had a thing about Russia. Push comes to shove, when the Russians are involved, the European powers will side with each other first. But then Russia has long been a predatory power."

Don't confuse Russia with the Soviet Union.

That's a HUGE mistake.

Blogger Dirk Manly July 11, 2018 1:15 PM  

@18

"I doubt there is a "Cabal" because I consider it unnecessary. People of a similar type who have a common interest are quite capable of colluding with each other even without a central authority."

....which constitutes a cabal.

Blogger Looking Glass July 11, 2018 1:21 PM  

If you want a fun time with the Banks, look into the physical locations of the major ones.

https://infogalactic.com/info/City_of_London

They find ways to exempt themselves from the Laws of little people.

Blogger Cecil Henry July 11, 2018 1:21 PM  

EVen some bishops are getting woke (or at least no longer lying):

Schneider: current migrant crisis “represents a plan orchestrated and prepared for a long time by international powers to radically alter Christian and national identity of European peoples.”

https://twitter.com/TOOEdit/status/1017073539168399360

Blogger Crew July 11, 2018 1:22 PM  

I wonder what Mike Rogers is up to these days.

Blogger KPKinSunnyPhiladelpia July 11, 2018 1:24 PM  

Alphaeus wrote:" (The conclusion, by their fruits, is that the Republican party is about NONE of its stated party planks.)"

Someone once said that if you want to understand what's going with an organization, think of it as having been taken over by a cabal of its enemies. Or something like that.


Robert Conquest's 3 laws of politics.

1. Everyone is conservative about what he knows best.

2. Any organization not explicitly right-wing sooner or later becomes left-wing.

3. The simplest way to explain the behavior of any bureaucratic organization is to assume that it is controlled by a cabal of its enemies.

With 3, what he really means is that bureacracies inevitably self-destruct in whole or part -- ironically commiting the "sins" they are supposed to prevent. Example: the EPA gold mining accident, or the Flint, MI water catastrophe, or the Manhattan Project creating a weapon to help us win a war, when in fact those weapons could lead to us losing ANOTHER war, and badly at that.

It's also why the left-wing is autophagous -- they LOVE bureacracies.

The examples of 2 are too numerous to mention -- churches, schools, businesses like Google -- on and on and on.

Blogger DonReynolds July 11, 2018 1:25 PM  

Ah yes, it is all very entertaining.
Q has returned as head of the Q Division, making all those smart toys for James Bond to use to frustrate SPECTRE (SPecial Executive for Counterintelligence, Terrorism, Revenge and Extortion) from their evil plans to take over the world.....only possible because they first have destroyed it. I think we all grew up on James Bond. It was not actually in Mom's milk, but it was certainly in the sugary breakfast cereals.

Blogger RobertT July 11, 2018 1:26 PM  

I think you're crashing Neon Revolt. Their site could barely handle the traffic they were already getting.

Blogger tuberman July 11, 2018 1:30 PM  

Dirk Manly wrote:@18

"I doubt there is a "Cabal" because I consider it unnecessary. People of a similar type who have a common interest are quite capable of colluding with each other even without a central authority."

....which constitutes a cabal.


Exactly, add in literally hundreds of years, and many generations of this collusion, and only someone with a brain of mush would disagree about something like a cabal or the NWO. All the countries central banks in the world are owned by these people, minus about 4-6 unimportant countries.

Blogger Okrane S. July 11, 2018 1:30 PM  

Calling me stupid is not an argument. Neither is attributing to me the generic atheist labels, when you know nothing about me and what I believe. Especially when I think I have written my comment in the most respectful and open ended way.

You, and Qanon for that matter, make some very extraordinary claims. If you are surprised that you receive pushback and skepticism for these claims, I think you've been preaching to the choir for far too long.

Ultimately, if the reality you describe is true, evidence for it should be easy to see (and I'm referring to the organized and satanic human sacrifice part of the claim, not the low-hanging fruit of the existence of influence peddlers in the world). However, if these ideas are not up for debate and must be believed on faith then all this makes no difference to my life either and I wish you all the best.

Cheers

Blogger James Dixon July 11, 2018 1:34 PM  

> I think you're crashing Neon Revolt.

Oh, I expect Gab, Twitter, Facebook, reddit, and the chans have something to do with that too.

Blogger Hammerli280 July 11, 2018 1:34 PM  

The idea that there IS a distinct Ruling Class, and that a large chunk of that Ruling Class regards the rest of us as a gray mass to be manipulated for profit, should surprise nobody.

Some of the allegations of immorality? I used to take those with a shaker of salt. These days, only a pinch. There have been too many instances, they are starting to form a pattern.

And yes. Do give thanks to God for the miracle that made Trump President. (Although I suspect He is laughing...for you would be hard-pressed to find a more unlikely engine of reform)

Blogger DonReynolds July 11, 2018 1:37 PM  

@59 KPKinSunnyPhiladelphia
"It's also why the left-wing is autophagous -- they LOVE bureacracies.

The examples of 2 are too numerous to mention -- churches, schools, businesses like Google -- on and on and on."

Perhaps it seems that way because the modern Left does not take their methods or marching orders from Karl Marx. No, he was never a successful revolutionary. They take their inspiration from Lenin....and his method was to take over the "commanding heights" and institute change from the top down. The Left may be in love with bureaucracy, like a glutton loves his lunch. They do not want to BE the bureaucracy, they want to command the bureaucracy.....which is the Leninist way of taking over the entire society....from the top(s) down.

Blogger Okrane S. July 11, 2018 1:38 PM  

Here lies the important difference for me.

Of course there's collusion among the wealthy, why wouldn't it be, but the claims here go much much further than that.

Blogger Okrane S. July 11, 2018 1:43 PM  

This isn't my blog, so I kept my reply short. Of course there is collusion, especially among the top elites.

The claims here are beyond that. Two businessmen can collaborate to further their wealth without the need for both belonging to an organized cult signed in blood and worshiping Satan.

The point I was trying to make is that I disbelieve the idea that there's an organized plan to destroy the west, we can explain everything what's happening with the lens that there are hundreds of wealthy people each pursuing their own interests in the matter.

Blogger ZhukovG July 11, 2018 1:45 PM  

@Okrane S.: Proof of Satanic Human Sacrifice? A basic book on military history should more than suffice.

Unless of course you're expecting a bunch of Anton Zandor LaVey wannabees. No.

Look, you infer that you do not believe in God. That makes you by definition; a fool. So I am probably wasting my time even humoring you. But, understand that Satanic Human Sacrifice doesn't actually require a belief in Satan or some form of Satanism.

Satanic Human Sacrifice only requires the willingness to expend human lives in one's own quest for power. Whether one does it in war, an occult alter, or an abortion clinic makes no difference.

Blogger Dirk Manly July 11, 2018 1:46 PM  

Why was Stanley Kubrick killed shortly after making "Eyes Wide Shut" ???

Blogger Looking Glass July 11, 2018 1:46 PM  

@65 Hammerli280

The 10 plagues against Egypt were the Lord mocking all of the major deities in the Egypt pantheon. Not only did the Lord create humor, he also created mocking, belittling & dunking on people & powers.

So, yes, Donald Trump, the New York Playboy, at the forefront of defending Christianity is exactly the type of thing He'd do. Though mostly because Trump was one of the few that would actually step up.

Blogger Nate July 11, 2018 1:47 PM  

every time I hear someone talk about Qanon… I think of this.

remember... Aliens who are on our side blew up Space X's rockets according to QAnon.


Qanon is the StayWoke of the Right.

Blogger Looking Glass July 11, 2018 1:48 PM  

Dirk Manly wrote:Why was Stanley Kubrick killed shortly after making "Eyes Wide Shut" ???

Because he said too much. The main mansion was actually a Rothschild-owned building.

Blogger Nate July 11, 2018 1:50 PM  

http://www.astoundingelements.com/qanon-the-link-between-spacex-and-north-korea.html

Benevolent ETs ya'll. StayWoke!

Blogger James Dixon July 11, 2018 1:51 PM  

> Calling me stupid is not an argument.

Yes, it is. Calling your statement stupid even more so.

> Neither is attributing to me the generic atheist labels, when you know nothing about me and what I believe.

I quote: " I find it telling that the same people who believe in such an esoteric concept like God to explain the complexity of the world we live in..."

We know quite well what you believe and what you think of us.

> Especially when I think I have written my comment in the most respectful and open ended way.

Really? Re-read what you wrote above. What's respectful about it?

> If you are surprised that you receive pushback and skepticism for these claims

You think your reaction is surprising? If so, Vox may have overestimated your intelligence.

> Ultimately, if the reality you describe is true, evidence for it should be easy to see

Yes, they should be. If you're willing to look. Why don't you start by Googling NXIVM? Then start looking into all the pedophile and trafficking arrests since Trump took office. Then realize that by it's very nature this has to be the tip of the iceberg. Then get back to us. Or not, as you see fit. We don't care one way or the other.

Blogger Alphaeus July 11, 2018 1:53 PM  

"Robert Conquest's 3 laws of politics."

Thanks for refreshing my memory and clarifying it.

I still like my corollary principle that says that if an organization is too right wing to openly convert to left wing, then, pretend to adhere to right wing policies after you take it over and depend on the stupidity of the voters, er something, to get you through, like Professor Gruber told us about how to cram Obamacare down the country's throat.
Nobody ever went broke by misunderestimating the stupidity of the People, which was said by Abraham Lincoln if I recall.

Blogger Rabbi B July 11, 2018 1:58 PM  

@75 James Dixon

I thought Okrane S had 'wished us all the best' and signed off a few comments ago.

Every.Single.Time.

Blogger Anti Dem July 11, 2018 2:05 PM  

Except that Qanon is a troll that only retards who don't understand how carny psychics fool audiences full of marks will get taken in by.

No, really, stop being goofed by this neo-Nostradamus bullshit.

Blogger Insight July 11, 2018 2:05 PM  

"Of course there's collusion among the wealthy, why wouldn't it be, but the claims here go much much further than that."

Because it does go much farther than the physical into the spiritual realm. The bible as usual has it covered( 1 Corinthians 2:14-15


Blogger R Webfoot July 11, 2018 2:05 PM  

@Nate

Benevolent ETs blew up SpaceX rockets, according to Qanon, according to ET theorists.

Because when Qanon said there's a connection between SpaceX and North Korea, ET theorists leap to read in ETs.

I don't actually think it's fair to blame Qanon for the interpretations of ET theorists.

Blogger Crew July 11, 2018 2:07 PM  

Speaking of Mike Rogers:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4wMrgZtfnc

Blogger Nate July 11, 2018 2:15 PM  

"I don't actually think it's fair to blame Qanon for the interpretations of ET theorists."

the point is that you can make Q's posts mean anything you want them to mean... any time.

Have a pet theory? Qanon can help you back it up.

Blogger James Dixon July 11, 2018 2:15 PM  

> Except that Qanon is a troll

He may well be, though if so more likely a group of trolls. But that doesn't mean the conclusions aren't true.

Look, Google Project Echelon. It was considered a complete conspiracy theory going back as far as the 1960's. We now know it was real and the truth was even worse than was claimed.

Blogger Noah B The Savage Gardener July 11, 2018 2:16 PM  

We've seen time and again lately that widely ridiculed conspiracy theories have been proven correct and usually didn't go nearly far enough in their initial claims. Disturbing though Qanon's claims may be, there's nothing about them that's outlandish; what he's described is a simple, logical, and evil process by which the wealthy maintain control over society.

Blogger Ariadne Umbrella July 11, 2018 2:16 PM  

There are a few loose threads:

The Illuminati Obama wedding costume. I'm not so weirded out by the odd costume- operas have nothing but oddities lying around- but that the outfit would be recognizable as an Illuminati costume by other people. How many other people? Who has an "Illuminati" themed wedding? Most people have "wedding-themed" weddings. Or Hindu and western weddings. How would the seamstress even know what to make? I mean, not all white dresses are wedding dresses, but we can all recognize a wedding dress. Not all black jackets are graduation gowns, but we can recognize a graduation ceremony. Even if it's not Obama, who are the Illuminati? I mean, Scientology puts its wedding practices on the front of gossip magazines. Who are they? What are they hiding?

The second is the Ashcraft/ Cronsell assertions, with Mr Cronsell mentioning two restaurants with online reviews. There are 57,000 thousand different locations. None of them seem to be restaurants. A great many addresses are dentists or surgical suites or grubby private homes.

I will say, my mother had a specialty dentist with some major surgery and full anesthesia. She came out of it with some sort of leaking fluid, a bloodshot eye every few days or so, something about migraines. I've never seen anyone else with it. She can't explain it. She's brain damaged,so she can't explain anything, but it does put aggressive facial damage within the realm of peculiar dentistry.

The third is that other countries seem to be dumping information on these or similar boards. The same autists are finding malefactors in other countries within days. The information is also all second-sourced with public news reports in foreign languages.

Honestly, what did the Cabal think? Only French, German, and English would be used by soldiers, hackers and others in other nations for near decades? An amazing amount of information is being translated into English by former soldiers who patrolled in Afghanistan and other places. They tend to have been crippled, and now work online on computers. Their brains work.

I do really think Mr Trump hides the languages he is capable of understanding. Two Mrs Trump's speak multiple small languages, as well as the global languages. None of them joke about their husband the way that Giselle Bundchen jokes about Tom Brady, her husband, in public. Mr Brady speaks English. His wife speaks accented, simplified English, and yet she makes fun of Mr Brady in front of other Americans. Mrs Trump has never spoken ill of Mr Trump. She is sophisticated in her dealings with the media. Her answers are complex, in English.

The autists techniques work in the real world, in other than first world conditions. That's better than electricity or water companies- first world results in third world conditions.

And, the White House was lit up on World Autism Day, but not gay pride day. No one else has lit up the White House for autists.

Blogger Rhology July 11, 2018 2:17 PM  

Purdy hard to give much thanks to God for Trump when he's deliberately signing budget bills into law that fully fund Planned Murderhood and nominating SCOTUS "justices" that explicitly say that Roe v Wade is not something they are interested in overturning.

Idolatry is bad y'all. Love your preborn neighbor more than your political preferences, and be courageous enough to call out deadly, highly serious error when you see it, no matter the identify of the hero in whom that error resides.

Blogger Zander Stander July 11, 2018 2:18 PM  

Like the search for extraterrestrial life, we need only one specimen, not a fully described ecosystem. That will be conclusive proof. Q has no hard evidence, just conjecture and innuendo an narrative. Anybody can do that. Time to put Q to pasture.

Blogger Josh (the sexiest thing here) July 11, 2018 2:18 PM  

the point is that you can make Q's posts mean anything you want them to mean... any time.

Have a pet theory? Qanon can help you back it up.


Maybe Q is Leo Wanta.

Q cannot fail. Q can only be failed.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother July 11, 2018 2:19 PM  

Alphaeus,the GOP wasn't taken over and gutted. It's always been like that.

The GOP was red from the start.

https://www.menofthewest.net/republican-party-red-start/

Blogger Josh (the sexiest thing here) July 11, 2018 2:20 PM  

nominating SCOTUS "justices" that explicitly say that Roe v Wade is not something they are interested in overturning.

That is not what he said. You are either lying or too stupid to understand that appellate courts are bound by supreme court precedent.

Blogger Rhology July 11, 2018 2:26 PM  

They actually aren't. It's just that appellate judges are usually too cowardly to render just judgments even when the "higher" court got it wrong.

Blogger James Dixon July 11, 2018 2:27 PM  

> the point is that you can make Q's posts mean anything you want them to mean... any time.

The same can largely be said of the Revelation of St. John the Divine, can it not? :)

Blogger Noah B The Savage Gardener July 11, 2018 2:28 PM  

@91 If Kavanaugh had tried to overturn Roe v. Wade as an appellate judge he would have succeeded only in marginalizing himself. He never would have gotten nominated to the Supreme Court.

You would rather virtue signal than win.

Blogger Kettle July 11, 2018 2:28 PM  

If Q is a LARP its truely epic, the complexity of the narrative is non-trivial and lining up all the elements that have real world connections would take a full time support team.
If nothing else what does Q want, is it an effort to make a fool of a bunch of people, a power grab to bring down a specififc element so another can take its place? Hell assuming Q is MI he/they have to mix in enough FUD to keep themselves in the clear. No one will ever have a "clean" answer on Q.
At the end of the day Q takes a lot less faith then when they try to explain why we have to allow the largest invasion of human history to occur un interrupted and yet we have the largest military on the planet.

Blogger R Webfoot July 11, 2018 2:30 PM  

@Nate
I attribute that entirely to the fact that Qanon is talking about revealing things which are not publically common knowledge.

The ET fetishists drew the connection to ETs based on two things:

1) Qanon talks about revealing stuff
2) Qanon talked about SpaceX

I haven't studied Qanon in any depth, but that wasn't Qanon. That's just MPAI in action. You will get that with absolutely everything.

Blogger Okrane S. July 11, 2018 2:31 PM  

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Blogger Noah B The Savage Gardener July 11, 2018 2:31 PM  

Nate is a crop circle denier.

Blogger Okrane S. July 11, 2018 2:33 PM  

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Blogger James Dixon July 11, 2018 2:34 PM  

> Nate is a crop circle denier.

Nate is a moon landing denier.

Blogger Okrane S. July 11, 2018 2:34 PM  

Rabbi B wrote:@75 James Dixon

I thought Okrane S had 'wished us all the best' and signed off a few comments ago.

Every.Single.Time.



Nah I'm still here.
I find it amusing that you think I came here to troll, and using the same anti-troll tactics you see on reddit.

Blogger Looking Glass July 11, 2018 2:36 PM  

@85 Ariadne Umbrella

Trump slipped a few times on the languages. He knows at least conversation Japanese & Chinese. Ever the business strategist, he clearly never let that on in deals & used translators. Funny things happen when they think you don't understand what they're saying.

Blogger Rabbi B July 11, 2018 2:36 PM  

Nate is a crop circle denier.

Chem trails. Don't forget the chem trails.

Blogger R Webfoot July 11, 2018 2:37 PM  

@97
"Nate is a crop circle denier."

*facepalm*

Lemme guess.

He's also a globecuck.

Blogger Rhology July 11, 2018 2:40 PM  

@93 Noah

If Kavanaugh had tried to overturn Roe v. Wade as an appellate judge he would have succeeded only in marginalizing himself.

Maybe, unless God is real and prefers it when we do righteous things and leave the results and consequences to Him. Pragmatism is false and you should stop living according to its dictates.


He never would have gotten nominated to the Supreme Court.

Again, you don't know that. You're just guessing.
Also, who cares? Imagined or hoped-for ends don't justify means.


You would rather virtue signal than win.

Whatever. That's just a throwaway line.
Just how is it winning to continue to fund PP and to refuse to bring in people who could overturn RvW? That isn't winning at all. It's pragmatic nonsense.

Blogger Resident Moron™ July 11, 2018 2:42 PM  

"The same can largely be said of the Revelation of St. John the Divine, can it not? :)"

The same can be said of anything and everything - as long as one doesn't care about speaking like an ignorant fool.

The Revelation of Jesus Christ is about 70% quotes from and allusions to passages of the Old Testament. As long as one remains adamantly ignorant of the content, context, and import of those passages, then yes one can happily read the book as one reads Nostradamus, with a cheerful confirmation bias and no hint of contrary intelligence to trouble the flight of fancy. Many do, I hear.

Yet no sooner does one become aware of such things then entertaining such bold holidays takes a rather more determined idiocy.

Whatever Q is, he's no idiot.

Blogger Anno Ruse July 11, 2018 2:42 PM  

There is no system of blackmail. They protect themselves by having each member of the group watch over everyone else. Someone changes his behavior? Someone always wants to be alone? He's a potential problem, better invite him to the next ritual and see how willing he is to participate in evil acts.

They identify the people likely to talk and kill them before they can. That's why we have a long list of suspicious deaths and NOT a long list of people who started to talk but then evidence appeared showing them doing terrible things.

Blackmail wouldn't work in the real world. What would be the logical consequences of releasing proof that an influential person participated in a child sacrifice? I can't see any way in which this protects the conspiracy.

If you accept that a conspiracy exists and you accept that they are killing children (I accept both) then you must find a reasonable explanation for how they keep it hidden. I find my explanation to be reasonable and I find the blackmail explanation to be unreasonable.

Nobody ever gives you a basic conspiracy theory. Everything's so "big". How do you think all this is getting managed? The most powerful people in the world intended for Hillary to occupy the most powerful public position in the world and her IT guy was asking for tech help on reddit.

Blogger Rabbi B July 11, 2018 2:44 PM  

@104 Rhology

Your alternative to current POTUS is....?

Blogger Manuel July 11, 2018 2:46 PM  

Abortion was never voted on. It was imposed by the courts. In other words, the Cabal imposed it on the country.

Blogger Rhology July 11, 2018 2:50 PM  

@107
Your alternative to current POTUS is....?

Psalm 20:7 - Some boast in chariots and some in horses, But we will boast in the name of the LORD, our God.


@108
In other words, the Cabal imposed it on the country.

And Trump's minions Gorsuch and Kavanaugh explicitly refuse to do anything useful about it. Trump himself could have, but he has made it worse.

Blogger Tim from Nashua July 11, 2018 2:50 PM  

The Storm is coming . . .The Devil hissed in Trump's ear, you cannot withstand the Storm. The President straightened his tie, gritted his teeth, and said, "I am The Storm". The Storm is scary to those of little faith, but all Jesus has to say is "Peace, be still". That probably won't happen until Hurricane Donald is done
all G-d has in mind for him to do.

Blogger Alphaeus July 11, 2018 2:51 PM  

"Sherman’s scorched earth March to the Sea was a horror the later Nazis could not equal. Why? Because the Yankees hated Negro slavery so much?"

I didn't know Alan Stang was still around. I guess Life Among The Eskimo is good for longevity.

But Sherman never claimed to be an abolitionist himself. He was against unilateral secession. He was actually friendly with the South before the war. He worked in Louisiana at some military academy IIRC and got along swimmingly with the locals until the war started.
And I agree with the idea that unilateral secession is "problematic." Everyone in the entire nation, in ever state, has an undividable interest in the rest of the nation. The people of Alaska & Hawaii have an interest in the Mississippi river and the Rocky Mountains, and vice versa. If separation is to occur it should be negotiated, or else don't be surprised if you got a fight on your hands.
Also, to be clear, the war was about secession, not slavery. Secession was about slavery, the war was about secession. It's not correct to say the war was about slavery because as long as the argument was only about slavery there would have been no shooting war. When the cause of slavery turned to secession was when war came about.

Blogger Nick Siekierski July 11, 2018 2:51 PM  

I have no doubt that Russia has a big role to play in the coming years, one of the Virgin Mary's requests at Fatima was for Russia to be consecrated to her Immaculate Heart. Unfortunately Putin hasn't shown much evidence of wanting to play this epic-historical role. Russia has yet to return the wreckage of the Polish presidential plane that crashed in 2010, the Nord Stream II pipeline is an attempt to make an end run around Eastern Europe and throttle most of the continent with higher energy prices (thankfully Trump is against this), disinformation, propaganda, spying and agitation campaigns are carried out non-stop by Russia (so does the Western mass media, but it doesn't mean Russia is a peacemaker or innocent victim), and Putin has done little to "Make Russia Great Again", and he's probably worth 10x what Trump by running what is essentially an oil revenue mafia. If anyone can make him see the light (besides Christ) it's the GE, but at this point they're not in the same league. Putin has a lot of evil of his own to account for. I'll pray for him nonetheless.

Blogger Noah B The Savage Gardener July 11, 2018 2:52 PM  

Blackmail wouldn't work in the real world. What would be the logical consequences of releasing proof that an influential person participated in a child sacrifice? I can't see any way in which this protects the conspiracy.

The blackmail would ideally be done in such a manner that it only implicated the target and did not prove the existence of a premeditated blackmail scheme. I can think of a few ways that could happen.

Blogger RA July 11, 2018 2:56 PM  

"For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places."
--Ephesians 6:12

Paul knew what he was talking about.

Blogger Dirk Manly July 11, 2018 2:57 PM  

@106

"Blackmail wouldn't work in the real world. What would be the logical consequences of releasing proof that an influential person participated in a child sacrifice? I can't see any way in which this protects the conspiracy."

Because the blackmail material isn't participation in a child sacrifice. The blackmail material is engaging in acts of undeniable pedophilia. Babies and toddlers.


About 20 years ago, some random person on IRC DCC-transferred a file to me of some baby (6 months?) girl being raped.

The only thing I could do was immediately overwrite the file with something bigger, and then erase it, and then copy all the files and sub-directories into a new directory, remove the original directory, and then rename the new directory to the name of the old one.

Go to the cops? What, and get arrested for posession? No way.

Blogger Resident Moron™ July 11, 2018 2:58 PM  

"Everyone in the entire nation, in ever[y] state, has an undividable [sic] interest in the rest of the nation."

Yeah, except that's totally irrelevant and thus inapplicable.

Each individual state was sovereign, i.e. a nation in it's own right.

The Unites States was a federation of many nations, not a nation.

So who cares?

Blogger Zwiebel July 11, 2018 3:05 PM  

The US is going to be flooded. They will put a simple bomb into the waters off your coasts, and the tsunami will make it all the way to Kansas.

Blogger Dirk Manly July 11, 2018 3:06 PM  

@111


" Secession was about slavery,"

Secession was about Lincoln having for many years been a lawyer for the railroads.

You have no idea how the northern-owned railroads were utterly despised in the south. Most of them, instead of working with the southern states and their communities for routing their lines, went to Congress and got rights-of-way laid out on on low-scale maps, with absolutely no indication of the kind of (avoidable) chaos they were causing in southern communities.

This is why not a single southern state voted for Lincoln.

And when he still won, the south said, "We're out of here" and started declaring secession before Lincoln was even inaugurated.

Blogger Noah B The Savage Gardener July 11, 2018 3:09 PM  

@115 "Go to the cops? What, and get arrested for posession? No way."

That would just make a bad situation worse. Much easier for the cops just to charge you with possession than actually track down whoever sent the file. One time I found out that a cop was sending child porn to children he knew, and his CO wouldn't do anything about it. He claimed the deputy wasn't breaking any laws unless he was actually molesting children. Which was a complete lie, of course.

Blogger Othello July 11, 2018 3:28 PM  

“Jesus saith unto him, (Doubting) Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.”
-John 20:29

Blogger DonReynolds July 11, 2018 3:30 PM  

I will never understand the fanatical pre-occupation with overturning Roe v Wade. Was it based on the Constitution?Certainly not...but neither was "one man, one vote", or gay marriage, or integrated schools (or neighborhoods), or any number of Supreme Court mandates from the bench. It was judicial activism, which is apparently OK with Congress.

If Roe v Wade is overturned, we will simply returned to the pre-1973 world, where some states prohibit abortion and others do not. It will not ban abortion in 50 states, it will simply make it less convenient for women in some states and I am not sure how long that situation would continue. Even in high school (1960s) pregnant girls were traveling to those states that allowed abortion. In the other states, some doctors did them anyway and reported them as "D&C" procedures.

There are even some people who believe religion means they must be opposed to sex, so if they ban abortion, they will stop people from having sex....which they consider sinful. I seriously doubt that will work. I never had sex with the idea that abortion was a form of birth control.

Blogger Kettle July 11, 2018 3:32 PM  

Conspiracy??? Its vastly overrated, cognitive dissonance does the heavy lifting. An easy one, statins; Its been well known for 2+ decades they have no net benefit at the population level and are more likely to cause harm. The original studies that justified their use were falsified. Anyone can go pull up the copious amounts of data on this, yet any AMA doctor will happily hand you all the statins you want.
It doesnt take conspiracy, the heavy lifting is done by controlling the narrative and cognitive dissonance. The key to be able to make any real change is not to document conspiracy but to break the narrative. Once you break the narrative large scale cognitive dissonance fails since it is based off of the narrative being intact.
Hell, skull & bones is no secret nor is bohemian grove, yet the idea of elite power players having a secret society is discounted, why? becuase the intact narrative presents these people as the respectable businessman or politician, not some sociopath, hence we discount and ignore anything counter to "good boy" narrative.
Its no secret that various elite power players essentially have rotating harems and yet the idea that these groups would be involved in sex slavery or worse is discounted???

Blogger James Dixon July 11, 2018 3:34 PM  

> And I agree with the idea that unilateral secession is "problematic."

"When in the course of human events..."

Blogger Kettle July 11, 2018 3:37 PM  

In my opinion one of Q's main functions is to sow the seeds needed to break the narrative. Q isnt doing it alone he/they are simply amplifying the social dynamic that will allow them to break the dominant narrative that has been in place for 50+ years. Once that narrative is sufficiently weakened the flood gates can and will open, There is plenty of information of the corruption, deceit, and general filth most of the elite are involved in.
Q must simply feed the "resonant" frequency until enough energy build to break the narrative. Think Tacoma Narrows bridge.

Blogger DonReynolds July 11, 2018 3:40 PM  

@118 Dirk Manly
"This is why not a single southern state voted for Lincoln."

Let's not be coy about this. Lincoln was not even on the BALLOT in 15 of 33 states...which included states that were not in the South. The only Southern state that had Lincoln on the ballot was Virginia, where he got 1 percent of the vote.

So when he was elected president in 1860 with 39 percent of the popular vote, it certainly felt like a coup d'etat supported by little more than a third of the voters.

Blogger Unknown July 11, 2018 3:47 PM  

>The Invisible Government, by Dan Smoot (1962)
>None Dare Call It Conspiracy, by Gary Allen (1971)

>This isn't new.

World Revolution: The Plot Against Civilization, by Nesta H. Webster (1921)
The Secret World Government or The Hidden Hand: The Unrevealed in History, by Count Cherep-Spriridovich (1927)
The International Jew: The World's Foremost Problem: The Complete 4 Volumes, by Henry Ford (1920)
The Jews and Their Lies, by Martin Luther (1517)

Blogger Dave July 11, 2018 3:51 PM  

@Okrane S. have you commented here prior? It smells trollish when an overweening and haughty commenter pops up so quickly. The third comment just 13 minutes after the OP is up? "Genuinely concerned" is usually another tell.

Blogger SirHamster July 11, 2018 3:51 PM  

James Dixon wrote:I quote: " I find it telling that the same people who believe in such an esoteric concept like God to explain the complexity of the world we live in..."

We know quite well what you believe and what you think of us.


Calling the widely believed concept of God "esoteric" - stupid atheist hates God so much he can't say anything truthful about Him.

At least the self-refutation saves everyone time.

Blogger Paul M July 11, 2018 4:11 PM  

> There is absolutely nothing random about an evil that is following a course that was specifically described nearly 2,000 years ago.

"And I saw a beast coming out of the sea. It had ten horns and seven heads, with ten crowns on its horns, and on each head a blasphemous name. The beast I saw resembled a leopard, but had feet like those of a bear and a mouth like that of a lion."

That's pretty specific. We are on the lookout for a leopard-bear-lion Godzilla type thing to come up out of the sea.

Blogger Crush Limbraw July 11, 2018 4:14 PM  

Q or no Q - Vox's comment about Christianity is on target, very simply because Old Scratch had to neuter the church first and that is essentially mission accomplished on a large scale.
However, the biblical narrative ALWAYS shows a remnant of true servants throughout the ages who slog through and with the power of God's grace save the day. This also speaks to Paul's warning of 'wicked spirits in high places'- as we do not just deal with flesh and blood.
The basic problem in the church now is that the pulpits have become dispensers of pabulum and you have a childish view of Christian life, some of which I discuss at my website.
Suffice it to say - I see Q and Neon having a distinct role at this time and place - just because we can't comprehend everything doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
Finally, there are too many 'coincidences' which have my alert antennae at max reception.

Blogger Dirk Manly July 11, 2018 4:14 PM  

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Blogger Dirk Manly July 11, 2018 4:16 PM  

Okrane S

One Question -- WHAT created the Universe?

Clue for the clueless -- the Big Bang did not CREATE the Universe.. the Big Bang was the transformation from the size of a particle with extremely high energy density into what we see today.

No, your task is... tell me WHAT created that sub-atomic-sized point filled with all of the mass-energy (all in the form of energy at that moment) which is contained in the entire universe.

And once you tell me what formed it, then give me your logical reasoning as to why that entity is not God.

By the way, if you read the particle-physics book, the Dancing Wu Li Masters, the author (a physicist himself) explicitly states that energy can be willed into existence.

So, this leads right back to the initial energy-laden dot being the product of an entity with a mind. And this statement comes FROM THE PHYSICS COMMUNITY!

Run along now, and don't come back until you can answer my 2 questions.

Blogger Okrane S. July 11, 2018 4:20 PM  

Sure, I'll answer that.

I have absolutely no idea what created the universe, I dont even know if it was something that created it or it just appeared into existence. And I am perfectly happy living my life not knowing.

Blogger Jason H July 11, 2018 4:20 PM  

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Blogger Jason H July 11, 2018 4:21 PM  

Oh good! Crazy WND Kirk Cameron Vox was infinitely more entertaining than Hugo/Gamergate Vox.

Blogger Andrew July 11, 2018 4:24 PM  

Q never, ever, not even once said anything about aliens.

Blogger Okrane S. July 11, 2018 4:26 PM  

Dave wrote:@Okrane S. have you commented here prior? It smells trollish when an overweening and haughty commenter pops up so quickly. The third comment just 13 minutes after the OP is up? "Genuinely concerned" is usually another tell.

I've been posting for about 2 weeks since I discovered this blog.

Seriously, not trolling here - I just happened to open the blog as it was posted.

I dont understand why you find it so surprising that an atheist can roll his eyes at Christian's concept of God but still take the discussion about globalists seriously and be interested in a real conversation about it.

Blogger Kettle July 11, 2018 4:30 PM  

Q is "unpossible", the rot, the sick deviancy cant be that deep right????

Bill de Blasio aid and well-connected Democrat leader Jacob Schwarz, who was President of the Manhattan Young Democrats, was arrested over a year ago for possessing child p-rnography.

Jacob Schwartz was arrested over a year for having thousands of images of children being raped.

He was released on $7,500 bail.

And he's been free ever since.


If this little fish can skate what do you think the big boys can do without any real concern?

Blogger SirHamster July 11, 2018 4:38 PM  

Okrane S. wrote:I have absolutely no idea what created the universe, I dont even know if it was something that created it or it just appeared into existence. And I am perfectly happy living my life not knowing.

You fundamentally do not love the truth.


Take your earlier post:
Okrane S. wrote:Any evidence for all of this or are we supposed to believe it just like kids believe in Santa?

...I am genuinely curious here, but not convinced.


Had you read the Neon Revolt article Vox linked, you would have found a website reference:


Lastly, I’ll direct your attention to https://www.qproofs.com/. Looking for hard evidence of Q’s veracity? You’ll find it here, in easy-to-understand graphical form.



You aren't curious, or you'd have looked. This is evidence, and it was practically spoonfed to you and you didn't even notice.

Stop lying to us and to yourself.

Blogger Dave July 11, 2018 4:46 PM  

and be interested in a real conversation about it

You're not very convincing as Vox's response to you indicated. What other topics did you comment on?

Blogger camperbot July 11, 2018 5:01 PM  

@136 When asked if UFOs were a distraction he replied:

How far away is the closest star?
What do you think?


Blogger Snidely Whiplash July 11, 2018 5:02 PM  

@Nate,
I can show you any number of websites that prove ETS are real and coming to rescue us, based solely on Bible snippets.
Does that invalidate Scripture? Asking for a friend.

Blogger camperbot July 11, 2018 5:17 PM  

Q's drops contain much information that the Christian should be entirely unsurprised by. The problem is we recall the advice 'be wise as serpents and gentle as doves' only partially and forget that we are to be as wise as Satan.

That means educating yourself on high-level masonic symbols, the Luciferian calendar and the disgusting delights of the pedo elites.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash July 11, 2018 5:30 PM  

Zwiebel wrote:The US is going to be flooded. They will put a simple bomb into the waters off your coasts, and the tsunami will make it all the way to Kansas.

"Physics, how does it work?" --Zweibel

An explosion big enough to do that would render the Earth completely uninhabitable for multi-cellular life. Fortunately, it would take an asteroid impact, not a bomb to accomplish it.

Blogger Zwiebel July 11, 2018 5:30 PM  

Bull. The migration into Germany? How do you explain that? It has no value for any influential person. They are not employed or employable, so can't really lower wages. They don't really have any abilities that could increase the capabilities of any particular German company.

The only thing they can do is rape, pillage, and plunder. Who has an advantage of that?

You may say: the welfare industry. Certainly, but only for a short time. The welfare state is going to collapse, and then there will be war. And they will be killed.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash July 11, 2018 5:41 PM  

Okrane S. wrote:I dont understand why you find it so surprising that an atheist can roll his eyes at Christian's concept of God but still take the discussion about globalists seriously and be interested in a real conversation about it.
Dude, you're the one that brought Atheism to this party, and implicitly set up some sort of dichotomy that existed only in your own mind, between religious faith and belief in a cabal that operates the world.
You also, I note, immediately went for the Atheists's favorite "extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence" bullshit. This in not only dishonest, it's not even objectively tenable.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash July 11, 2018 5:44 PM  

Zwiebel wrote:The only thing they can do is rape, pillage, and plunder. Who has an advantage of that?


The people who thrive on Chaos and want people raped, robbed, killed and plundered. Those who want to control others and kill off 2/3 of the world's population. Those who want a civil war, or a race war, to deplete their enemies resources, so they can take over. Also those, like our friend Okrane, who simply hate Jesus.
Not all profit is monetary.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash July 11, 2018 5:45 PM  

Finally, any time someone, anyone says the want a "conversation" about a topic, it is a lie.
Every
Single
Time

Blogger Gettimothy July 11, 2018 5:49 PM  

[poop]

either the greatest LARP in history or real.

Why wouldn't we watch and see how it plays out?

Blogger Gettimothy July 11, 2018 6:04 PM  

If Q is true, then my respect for our military command has gone through the roof. In faith, intelligence and character they are far and above any portrayal of them I have seen, frankly, the best men I have ever seen.

If Q is true, and I grow increasingly convinced that it is, then the scales are falling from our eyes . Truly a blessing.

Blogger Alphaeus July 11, 2018 6:23 PM  

"Each individual state was sovereign, i.e. a nation in it's own right.The Unites States was a federation of many nations, not a nation. So who cares?"

If that's the case then why a secession in the first place? The 10th Amendment is one of my favorite amendments, and it says:
"The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."

So, there is a rather explicit division of sovereignty. Some enumerated sovereignty was delegated to the United States, whilst all other sovereignty was retained by the States and the People.

I agree that the US usurped shitloads of power they had no authority for, to the extent that war might be a reasonable attempt at remedy. But secession is almost always something you have to fight and kill and die for, unless you're Czechs and Slovakians because it's never legal and someone is going to strenuously object because they see themselves having an interest in what you're trying to walk away with.

Blogger Alphaeus July 11, 2018 6:33 PM  

"> And I agree with the idea that unilateral secession is "problematic."
"When in the course of human events..." ""

As you know there was very little support for Independence even after the events of 1775. It was only after it became obvious that The British Imperialists were never going to change their policies that evinced a design to reduce the American colonies to absolute despotism that Independence caught on. And did the British Imperialists go away quietly? I seem to remember that they tried to kill us. So, we had to kill them. Too bad we were too weak and poor to fund an invasion of the British Isles so we could have gone their and kicked their ass to teach them a lesson.
But in any case, Independence was illegal, so, if you want it, you've got to overpower the assholes who would be trying to enforce the promulgated laws against you. Just whining about it and demanding fairness only makes you look pathetic.

Blogger Ingot9455 July 11, 2018 6:35 PM  

For anyone who is 'honestly curious' Jeffrey Epstein - The Lolita Express - and Lolita Island is a great place to start.
It's proven, there's loads of evidence, plenty of people testified against him, loads of other people are implicated in a laundry list of pedophiliac crimes... and he got off with a slap on the wrist.

And if that's too ho-hum, too ordinary, any billionaire would do that... why did he build that strange temple on the island? You can google up pictures of it. Why would someone who has young girls and boys lured onto a mysterious desert island to service other rich people have a strange temple there for magic rituals?

And why would Donald Trump take one flight on his aircraft (not to the island), then bar him and his people from Mar-a-Lago and any of his other properties?

I mean, this is all on Google. This is public.

Blogger Didas Kalos July 11, 2018 6:43 PM  

There was never a big bang.

Blogger Didas Kalos July 11, 2018 6:47 PM  

There is information here that will help us understand some of the "whys" that are behind the "conspiracy." This newly released book is entitled The Killing Of Uncle Sam. As someone aptly said, Nothing in politics is by chance. https://revival.lpages.co/killingunclesambook/ also https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-killing-of-uncle-sam-rodney-howard-browne/1127358852?ean=9781640070974

Blogger VD July 11, 2018 6:51 PM  

I dont understand why you find it so surprising that an atheist can roll his eyes at Christian's concept of God but still take the discussion about globalists seriously and be interested in a real conversation about it.

Because you are clearly not capable of having a real conversation about it. You're not even close to being informed enough to do so. But you've already poisoned the well, moreover, because you are an atheist you cannot possibly understand either the globalists or the opposition to them.

It is a religious war. More than that, it is THE religious war.

Blogger Darwinite July 11, 2018 7:17 PM  

I was fully on board the Q train, but Vox’s takedown of JBP got me thinking that Q is similar, in that most of what he posts is subject to open-ended interpretation, and “Trust the plan” is uncomfortably close to “clean your room”. If someone wanted to implant a delusion on the right - one that encourages people to sit at home on their computers instead of doing anything constructive - they couldn’t do much better than Q.

Blogger Rhology July 11, 2018 7:25 PM  

@157
one that encourages people to sit at home on their computers instead of doing anything constructive

Not sure that's needed tho... 95+% of the churches in the USA accomplish the same purpose already.
www.churchrepent.com

Blogger Rough Carrigan July 11, 2018 7:28 PM  

When Putin was taking down one of appeared out of nowhere oligarchs, Khodorkovsky, the guy tried to transfer all his holdings to the Rothschilds before he went down.

And who do we see Hillary Clinton furiously sucking up to in some of the leaked Podesta emails? Why the Rothschilds!

It's all a bit too much of a coincidence.

Blogger Garuna July 11, 2018 7:33 PM  

I don't believe in Q Anon even a little bit. But have accepted him as a Bill Mitchell type cheerleader who keeps the morale high on our side. And also as a counterbalance to the enemies who are motivated by the Russia hoax.

--

The "it's all just a coincidence/chaos" crowd is beyond stupid. Even the mainstream media was openly talking about the "neoliberal world order" on election night, and how Trump is a threat to it.

If it is random, then how is it always moving in the same corporatist, warmongering, anti-identity, anti-nationalist, pro-banker, pro-centralization, pro-sexual degeneracy direction? We are fighting a very real establishment. And that establishment is fueled by a very real and perhaps very ancient ideology.

I think some people are too image-conscious.

Blogger Ariadne Umbrella July 11, 2018 7:34 PM  

well, there are limits to what Q talks about. Q has a specific set of people that are being fisked. It's not every naughtiness, it's only specific security concerns. Q also says that other important information is not being publicized.

Like, we know CEOs are resigning at a brisk clip. Only three have had their misdeeds publicized. What are the other reasons? We don't know.

It's not a random shame and claim. The companies are not being shaken down like oil companies and banks were fined during the Obama administration. The CEO is leaving. The company remains. Their assets remain in their own possession. This, to me, looks very surgical.

We don't know what the CEOs did, or if they are connected to each other, or if they were all subject to honeypots or if it was darker reasons for retiring.

We do know that there's now a soft agreement that some of the honeys are now free- the CDAN reveal with no names- a great many famous people had sex on camera- and those archives are now mostly closed up- their privacy remains intact-ish.

The Bro-Valley book has chapters on public sex. The people mentioned are all in tech. So, no names, but the knowledge that some of these people are indiscreet is published.

It would seem to me that the repeated "We have it all" for tech communications suggests that they do indeed have it all, and quite a bit of it isn't going to be used- minor, legal bad judgment calls- affairs with grown women, if you will- freeing some blackmailable individuals to pursue virtue rather than be at the mercy of their weakest moments on tape.

Blogger God Emperor Memes July 11, 2018 7:45 PM  

"You will never be convinced because your identity depends upon not being convinced. Any evidence provided to you will immediately meet with a redefinition of evidence. Even if you tell us what evidence will convince you, you will change your mind as soon as it is presented to you..."

Thanks, Vox. That is a masterful summary of dealing with Leftists. I will be quoting it verbatim in future.

Blogger Frank Brady July 11, 2018 7:48 PM  

Thank you, Vox, for linking Trump's and Putin's efforts. Too few understand the transformation that Russia has undergone since the collapse of the USSR.

Blogger Jack July 11, 2018 7:54 PM  

The Q phenomenon should be taken seriously for the two reasons that Vox mentioned a while back: 1) he correctly called North Korea months in advance, and 2) Trump is curiously silent, when he could kill the whole thing with one disavowal tweet.

However, that doesn't mean that Q is telling the truth about everything, that his sole mission is to inform us little people. We don't know what his, or their, motivation is. Some of the information he's put out seems ridiculous, such as Angela Merkel being literally Hitler's daughter. It's possible that a psyop team has scoured the interwebs for conspiracy theories that already have a certain following, then pasted them together in a grand narrative that could predictably gather a large following of people. Back in the 1990s, William Cooper did this with his Behold A Pale Horse amalgamation of everything from JFK to masons to aliens. You just put in a little something for everyone.

Blogger Ronin F9 July 11, 2018 8:06 PM  

https://archive.org/stream/RedSymphony/RedSymphony_djvu.txt


"Red Symphony" is a pretty amazing story, in the form of a KGB interrogation of a spy, about the secret forces, the Cabal, if you will, behind the Communist take over of Russia and how Stalin hijacked the revolution from the Cabal's man, Trotsky. I don't know if the story is true or not but this is a very interesting exchange -

"G - But if, according to you - and I think the same - they already have global political power, then what other power do they want to possess?

R - I have already told you: Full power. Such power as Stalin has in the USSR, but world-wide.

G - Such power as Stalin's, but with the opposite aim.

R - Power, if in reality it is absolute, can be only one. The idea of the absolute excludes multiplicity. For that reason the power sought by the Comintern and "Comintern," which are things of the same order, being absolute, must also in politics be unique and identical: Absolute power has a purpose in itself, otherwise it is not absolute.
And until the present day there has not yet been invented another machine of total power except the Communist State. Capitalistic bourgeois power, even on its highest rung of the ladder, the power of Caesar, is limited power since if, in theory, it was the personification of the deity in the Pharaohs and Caesars in ancient times, then nevertheless, thanks to the economic character of life in those primitive States and owing to the technical underdevelopment of the State apparatus, there was always room for individual freedom.
Do you understand that those who already partially rule over nations and worldly governments have pretensions to absolute domination? Understand that that is the only thing which they have not yet reached.

G - This is interesting: at least as an example of insanity.

R - Certainly, insanity in a lesser degree than in the case of Lenin, who dreamt of power over the whole world in his attic in Switzerland or the insanity of Stalin, dreaming of the same thing during his exile in a Siberian hut. I think that dreams of such ambitions are much more natural for the moneyed people, living in the skyscrapers of New York.

G - Let us conclude: Who are they?

R - You are so naive that you think that if I knew who "They" are, I would be here as a prisoner?"

Blogger MB July 11, 2018 8:12 PM  

If a tree falls in the forest, and no atheist is there to hear it, does it make a sound?

Yes, it makes a thump. Existence does not depend on an atheist’s acknowledgement.

Blogger Didas Kalos July 11, 2018 8:21 PM  

😀

Blogger dvdivx July 11, 2018 9:12 PM  

"chaos theory, which is about finding deterministic order in apparent randomness."
I had always assumed the chaos theory was everything turns into sh*t given enough time. Your explanation sounds a lot better.

Blogger SciVo July 11, 2018 9:20 PM  

Okrane S. wrote:I find it telling that the same people who believe in such an esoteric concept like God to explain the complexity of the world we live in, are also the ones who will readily believe that there's a massive conspiracy at hand to explain bad outcomes instead of millions of independent actors making choices in a complex system which can sometimes lead to chaos.

1. Your use of "the ones" is a lie. You would not need your toes to count the prominent atheists that are not also feminists, and the latter posit a conspiracy that spans the entire world and all of human history (the "Patriarchy").

2. Secret societies and open conspiracies are both observable facts (the former because most people suck at keeping secrets), and it can be demonstrated that their prevalence is not just due to some performance-art whimsy, but because they offer material advantages to their members. It would be naively credulous to accept any given conspiracy theory without sufficient evidence, it would stupidly irrational to discard your capacity to deduce the likelihood that secret conspiracies exist, and it would be literally insane to deny the flagrant existence of open conspiracies.

Blogger Mark Stoval July 11, 2018 9:21 PM  

dvdivx wrote:"chaos theory, which is about finding deterministic order in apparent randomness."

I had always assumed the chaos theory was everything turns into sh*t given enough time. Your explanation sounds a lot better.


Vox gave a textbook perfect definition.

However, experience teachers that your definition is more accurate.

:-)

Blogger Dire Badger July 11, 2018 9:31 PM  

@Scivo-

I always wonder at people who think conspiracies are bunk while completely ignoring the political parties, which are basically vast conspiracies to get their own people in power, PACS (Publicly accepted conspiracies/political action committees), and even such public entities as say... the NCAA, which is a tax-free conspiracy to control college football.

Heck, corporations are a form of legal conspiracy.

Blogger Unknown July 11, 2018 9:35 PM  

Q is either a larp, legitimate or enemy disinformation.

Larpers generally break discipline and give themselves away or get bored after this amount of time.

If Q was legitimate Q would provide Trump supporters with useful and actionable nonpublic information about where they should focus their collective efforts. The prototype for this type of intelligence source was "FBIanon".

Now Q has not revealed itself as a larp and has not gone away. Neither has Q provided the kind of useful information FBIanon did. Q has said "Trust Sessions" when Sessions shows that hes AWOL and compromised and that Rosenstein (a clear hostile and judging by his congressional hearing an arrogant psychopath) is running the justice department. And "trust the plan", how can we trust the plan when Trump is hands off a hostile Justice Department. They let Awan go for absolutely nothing, Awan was the keys to the kingdom.

Trump supporters need to be demanding a purge of Justice with one voice but Q has caused massive division.

Therefore its extremely likely Q is enemy disinformation.

I don't normally comment here and my name says "Unknown"... and I have to use my google profile. I wish I could do a forum signup.

Blogger Dire Badger July 11, 2018 9:37 PM  

The reason it is a holy war is that Globalist want to be god. Christians are happy with the God we already have.

Blogger Thumos July 11, 2018 10:00 PM  

I've always thought Jews to strike me as a people divorced from god's grace. No other way to describe it. The way they behave is truly astonishing to a European of normal morality. And non-Jewish "cabal" members such as the ones mentioned do behave in the same way.

Blogger Meng Greenleaf July 11, 2018 10:05 PM  

I think it's pretty easy to recruit into any Cabal. Many somewhat intelligent individuals develop a distain for the people around them and view them as a disposable and (ironically) despised resource.

In my own line of work I've seen seemingly normal people happy to fill out useless childish forms in order to curry favor with those in positions of power. It's like a baby step. Before long they're injecting God-only-knows-what into the spines of unsuspecting victims. Whom they couldn't give two flying Fs about. To this day, although thousands of scientists know about this fraud, possibly illegal activity, no one says anything.

I don't doubt a Cabal of sorts exists. But IMO the problem actually stems from Government and its monopolies. Maybe I'm incorrect, but it seems reasonable that with sound monies, common law and individual liberty, that most Cabals would go bust in homogeneous Western Societies.

Speaking of which, I wonder what the Chinese or Japanese think about this? Any writings on Q from their perspective?

Blogger Long Live The West July 11, 2018 10:06 PM  

I like how the conservatives accuse us of revering Trump like he's God, then go on to ask why Trump isn't omnipotent like God and fix everything during his first week in office.

Did you all really expect Trump to build the wall, ban abortion, eject all immigrants, balance the checkbook, achieve world peace, Lock Her Up, arrest all pedos, destroy islam, destroy Israel's enemies, defeat China, ban gay marriage, fix healthcare, lower taxes, and test new nukes on Epstein's Island all in the first two years?

The Alt Right jests about Trump being the God Emperor.

You all seem to expect that to be literal.

Blogger Gettimothy July 11, 2018 10:58 PM  

https://voxday.blogspot.com/2018/07/qanon-users-guide.html?showComment=1531359306864&m=1#c1416876881702195064

Your reasoning is sound but for the fact that Trump has not fired Sessions.

That he has not fired Sessions because the uniparty will make sure the replacement is worse then Sessions is the most plausible, non-q rationale I have read.

Yet, Trump's demonstrated mastery of, and frequent use of misdirection and other Kung Tzu Foo lends significant weight to the Q side of things.

Blogger Ingemar July 11, 2018 10:58 PM  

For anyone who is 'honestly curious' Jeffrey Epstein - The Lolita Express - and Lolita Island is a great place to start.
It's proven, there's loads of evidence, plenty of people testified against him, loads of other people are implicated in a laundry list of pedophiliac crimes


Hmm... friends with Bill Clinton, Kevin Spacey, and Woody Allen. I got this all from Wikipedia which we all know is biased. Yet even the sanitized picture they're painting leads one down a rabbit hole...

Blogger James Dixon July 11, 2018 11:21 PM  

> I had always assumed the chaos theory was everything turns into sh*t given enough time.

That's thermodynamics.

> Q has said "Trust Sessions" when Sessions shows that hes AWOL

Who do you think has been the workhorse behind the pedophilia/trafficking roundup? What do you think the real key to taking down the deep state is?

> They let Awan go for absolutely nothing...

So why don't you tell us what Awan said under questioning, since you seem to know all the details?

Look, I have no idea if Q is the real deal or some really good group of Internet LARP'ers. I don't even have enough information to make any guesses. But Trump has earned my trust and he hasn't disavowed Q. Let's wait and see what develops.

Blogger Dire Badger July 11, 2018 11:46 PM  

Man, I get so tired of the whole 'Jeff Sessions is a null' sperging.

ALL ANYONE KNOWS about Sessions is that he is NOT talking to the Media.

Meanwhile, MS-13 has been crippled, and Sex trafficers, slavers, and celebrity pedophiles are getting busted by busload.

You want yet another talking head DOJ do-nothing? Jeff is doing a great job, and he is doing it without blabbing about his every move in advance to a bunch of jackasses in advance.

Good grief, he is following rule #1 "Don't talk to the Media".

Blogger Freddy July 12, 2018 1:01 AM  

Q never talks about Agenda 2030 and depopulation programs. Q cannot be trusted. Period.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash July 12, 2018 1:44 AM  

Q never talks about:
feminism
Transgederism
The Jewish Question
America's history of immigration
The 22nd amendment to the constitution
Ethiopian famine
The Talmudic massacres of Karaites in the 19th century
Zoroastrianism
Canned beer
Monsanto
The worldwide monopoly by a single firm on drink umbrellas
Corsets vs Girdles
The Kardashians
The USPS
Agile development
"Forever and a day" copyright terms
Did I mention beer in cans?

therefore, he cannot be trusted.

Blogger Ian Stein July 12, 2018 2:31 AM  

The Canal has got to have a better Plan B than Russian collusion or they are not the cabal that I have grown up believing secretly controls the world. Nuclear war must still be an option for them somehow.

Blogger Unknown July 12, 2018 2:57 AM  

"Man, I get so tired of the whole 'Jeff Sessions is a null' sperging.

ALL ANYONE KNOWS about Sessions is that he is NOT talking to the Media.

Meanwhile, MS-13 has been crippled, and Sex trafficers, slavers, and celebrity pedophiles are getting busted by busload."

But he won't touch any of the big people in DC and according to Lee Stranahan there is no investigation into the Democrats.

Also according to Roger Stone and Jerome Corsi he is an absentee Attorney General.

So the plurality of evidence does not backup the "stealth Jeff" theory. It backs up that Sessions is as compromised as he appears to be.

I mean for the love of God AT LEAST fire Rosenstein and indict the Podesta brothers.

Now I understand why Trump can't fire him right now, what I do not understand at all is why he won't fire Rosenstein.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash July 12, 2018 3:14 AM  

Unknown wrote:according to Lee Stranahan
Am I the only one who sees a problem with this construction?

Unknown wrote:...I do not understand at all...
as if his failure to understand was a basis for drawing a conclusion.

Blogger Dirk Manly July 12, 2018 3:55 AM  

@150

"If Q is true, then my respect for our military command has gone through the roof. In faith, intelligence and character they are far and above any portrayal of them I have seen, frankly, the best men I have ever seen."

A lot of rot set into the officer corps during during the Obama years. Obese officers were allowed to stay on if they were sufficiently PC.

Since Trump has come into office, a lot of dead wood has been cleared out, and things are back to the old standards.

Blogger Zwiebel July 12, 2018 4:14 AM  

Like it took an asteroid to flood Japan? Or Thailand?

No, it is possible, and has been attempted since the 50s, to create flood waves using simple atomic bombs. They already got good results in the 50s.

Maybe it'll only get the coasts, this Russian physicist claims:
https://youtu.be/XfLTfsGPea8 (3:50) But since most of your stuff is on the coasts...

Blogger Dire Badger July 12, 2018 4:41 AM  

Thank you, Snidely. It's weird being on the same side as you.

Unknown wrote:But he won't touch any of the big people in DC


So what, exactly, has happened to Jeffrey Epstein, or any of the other pedophile players?

Precisely nothing. Why? because there simply wasn't enough/ The swamp was not drained enough... the mud just filled in the trench that was dug.

So you want Sessions to make a big show of arresting these creeps, of turning them over, simply to have their charges disappear in the hands of corrupt swampies and even more corrupt judges?

You want men who sell little girls into being used as sex toys until they are strangled when they start growing tits to be let off on their 'own recognizance' by some prosecutor who makes 30 bucks an hour yet still can somehow afford a 45 million dollar yacht?
You want women who frighten little girls and boys to DEATH just to drink blood spiked with juvenile fear hormones to have all the time in the universe to warn their network of 'friends', and then walk around with nothing more than a slap on the wrist and an ankle bracelet for a few months?

No, the time is not right yet. The punishments are not right yet. The court and prosecutor system is not right yet. Their power has to be broken BEFORE they are hauled in or they will be gone faster than Paul Walker's head through a sports car window.

Sessions is Breaking their support structures. Obama's Private Army and escape network, MS-13, is on the ropes. The 'lesser network' of carefully blackmailed judges, media personalities, lawyers, and politicians is carefully being undercut.

The stage is being set for the Death penalty for certain federal crimes. Kidnapping a minor across state lines for purposes of rape, human trafficking, and Murder would certainly fit the definition of a 'death penalty' offense.

Which would make you happier, seeing Hillary flee to Ecuador, or watching her strapped into a metal chair as needles are fed into her arms?

Blogger Dire Badger July 12, 2018 4:49 AM  

"Also according to Roger Stone and Jerome Corsi he is an absentee Attorney General."

So he doesn't bother putting in 'face time'?
And this is a problem how? I used to work for the base legal department. Literally HALF of a judge or prosecutor/Advocate's time was WASTED by showing up to crappy meetings that accomplish nothing, 'mandatory' breakfast gatherings, and a million other ass-kissing sessions that do nothing more than ensure you have the right connections and that some pissed off admiral cannot fire you when you send his daughter to jail for soliciting.

You have been watching TV way way too much.If sessions were spending all of his time building up his after-cabinet job prospects and his 'brand', he would be a useless AG. Trump needs a sneaky leopard, not a cute and fuzzy puppy.

Blogger James Dixon July 12, 2018 5:58 AM  

> But he won't touch any of the big people in DC and according to Lee Stranahan there is no investigation into the Democrats.

The results of the DOJ IG report have been turned over to an independent investigator for possible prosecution. Will anything happen? Who knows, but the process has been started.

> I mean for the love of God AT LEAST fire Rosenstein...

And give the cucks in the R jersey's cover for the impeachment the so desperately want? This HAS to be independent of the administration.

> Maybe it'll only get the coasts, this Russian physicist claims:

Yes, it would only get the coasts. It wouldn't even make it over the Appalachia's, much less the Rockies. And the infrastucture of most of the cities would still be there when the water recedes, though most of the population would be gone.

> The stage is being set for the Death penalty for certain federal crimes.

I hope so, but I'm not going to hold my breath on that.

Blogger Insight July 12, 2018 6:14 AM  

"That's pretty specific. We are on the lookout for a leopard-bear-lion Godzilla type thing to come up out of the sea."


It's just symbolism, beasts are ravenous aka governments and the creatures represent said governments, bear = Russia, Lion = UK (said the World Cup announcer too) the sea is symbolic of the various peoples around the world etc... its just basic eschatology.

Blogger Dirk Manly July 12, 2018 7:43 AM  

@177

"That he has not fired Sessions because the uniparty will make sure the replacement is worse then Sessions is the most plausible, non-q rationale I have read.

Yet, Trump's demonstrated mastery of, and frequent use of misdirection and other Kung Tzu Foo lends significant weight to the Q side of things."

BS.

If Sessions wasn't doing what Trump wants him doing, he would have been kicked to the curb so hard he would bounce all the way to Alabama on his ass.
And then Trump would replace him with the swamp's worst nightmare -- but someone who they don't recognize as a threat.

Remember, the MI guys around Trump are quite savvy about Washington D.C. and who's who.

He could recommend some 3-star JAG guy ... any Senator voting against that would look like an absolute idiot, or traitor.

Blogger Dirk Manly July 12, 2018 7:48 AM  

@179

"Look, I have no idea if Q is the real deal or some really good group of Internet LARP'ers. I don't even have enough information to make any guesses. But Trump has earned my trust and he hasn't disavowed Q. Let's wait and see what develops.


And the "Q is a *Conspiracy* *Theory* (TM) media could put the story to bed with one question to Trump.

Yet, despite writing dozens of articles in a 48-hour period (just like those totally independently written "Gamers are Dead" articles that were all published the same day), the press seems strangely UNinterested in asking Trump about Q.

Why is that?

If they KNOW Q is a LARP, why don't they just get Trump to confirm it?


Blogger Dirk Manly July 12, 2018 7:52 AM  

@184

"Also according to Roger Stone and Jerome Corsi he is an absentee Attorney General. "

20 000 sealed indictments, and counting.

Corsi and Stone are lying -- they're out of the loop, and they're pissed off.

Blogger Dirk Manly July 12, 2018 7:57 AM  

"Which would make you happier, seeing Hillary flee to Ecuador, or watching her strapped into a metal chair as needles are fed into her arms?"

I'll take "Burning at the Stake" for $1000, Alex.

Blogger FrankNorman July 12, 2018 8:16 AM  

Showing up at a place on the web frequented by Christians and then referring to God as an "esoteric concept"?
It makes one wonder where such a person is from.

Blogger David Power July 12, 2018 8:53 AM  



I have never been one for conspiracy theories but one incident that occurred during the Brexit referendum has always struck me as being highly suspicious.

I'm talking about the extraordinary and brutal death of Joe Cox MP, days before the vote. And the subsequent strange behaviour of Mrs Cox's husband, Brendan Cox.

Hours after his wife had been slaughtered in the street by a man with a history of mental ill-health, Mr Cox was calmly doing the rounds on the mainstream news media, insisting that the murder was connected to the pro-Brexit campaign.

In fact, he seemed far more interested in pushing the remain vote than mourning the death of his wife.

After the leave vote's success, it came to light that the very same Brendan Cox had a somewhat unsavoury side to him.

He had already been accused of sexually assaulting a woman in her 30s at Harvard University in 2015.

But more importantly admitted to "inappropriate" behaviour while working for Save the Children.

Mr Cox was then forced to resign from OXFAM after it emerged that he was involved in a sex scandal involving aid workers in Haiti.

Was Joe Cox sacrificed in a desperate last ditch attempt to sway the Brexit vote?

Blogger James Dixon July 12, 2018 8:56 AM  

> Was Joe Cox sacrificed in a desperate last ditch attempt to sway the Brexit vote?

Her death was definitely used that way, whether it was preplanned or not.

Blogger Bobiojimbo July 12, 2018 9:08 AM  

@Zander Stander "Time to put Q to pasture."

STFU heretic.

Blogger flyingtiger July 12, 2018 9:22 AM  

#6: Don't worry about Nuclear war. The nucs do not exist and if they were, they would not be used.
The globalists have found subversion to be their best tactic. They are trying to divide nations into the smallest effective political units. They are trying to divide the USA and Russia. I bet they are also working on China, Brazil, and Canada. The only flaw in this plan is that it takes a generation and some people are impatient.

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