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Wednesday, July 18, 2018

"Trump's Darkest Day"

The media and the Deep State have been freaking out non-stop since the US-Russia summit in Helsinki began:
Arriving in the U.S. on Monday night, the president ignored questions from reporters. He let a Fox News interview he did with Sean Hannity just before his Helsinki departure be the final word that day on the controversial summit.

The president launched a late defense of his meeting with Putin as Democrats and the media panned as 'treasonous,' 'disgusting,' and 'disgraceful.' Not only was it great, he said on Twitter, it was 'even better' than one he had a few days prior with America's security alliance.

As he weathered heavy criticism for fawning over the strongman who the U.S. intelligence community says was behind 2016 hacking, Trump declared victory in his Helsinki and NATO summits.

He settled on a regular target for characterizing his Putin presser as anything less than a success -- the media.

'While I had a great meeting with NATO, raising vast amounts of money, I had an even better meeting with Vladimir Putin of Russia. Sadly, it is not being reported that way - the Fake News is going Crazy!' he said.
But why? There has been literally nothing to justify any of this over-the-top behavior.
The unhinged rhetoric of American liberals and neocons over Donald Trump’s meeting with Vladimir Putin in Helsinki is deeply repugnant and strangely disorienting. This is especially the case for someone my age, born less than a decade after the United States Air Force vaporized hundreds of thousands of civilians at Hiroshima and Nagasaki, a year after the US had killed almost a quarter of North Koreans, who watched as a teenager the US scald and incinerate millions of people in Indochina.

“The darkest hour in the history of the American presidency,” Garry Kasparov crystalizes the madness of US politics at this hour as the liberal classes collectively lose their minds. Darker therefore than Pearl Harbor, darker than 9/11?

Let it be imagined that Kasparov’s moves are but those of an embittered exile, let’s compare his words with those of Anderson Cooper of CNN who tweeted the words of Sen John McCain: “No prior president has ever abased himself more abjectly before a tyrant.”

From the crazed neo-cons embedded in America's deep state, all the way to the pussy-hat liberals of the left, a hysterical peal of rage has emerged in the wake of Helsinki with the hashtag #TreasonSummit trending all day in the Twitter-sphere.

So, what was the proximate cause of this collective shriek over Helsinki which emanated from the US, but had its echo in the halls of liberalism everywhere?

That Trump said that it is better that the US and Russia, the two predominant keepers of the world’s nuclear weapons, “should try to get along”? Or was it that he said that maintenance of such nuclear stockpiles “was a bad thing not a good thing”?

What sane human being could possibly disagree with these two statements, never mind a liberal, a progressive, a leftist?

Was it his evident disbelief in the righteousness of the CIA and the FBI? Again what kind of leftist elevates the deep-state agencies in America to sainthood? In decades gone by (as late as the George W Bush era, with his Patriot Act et al) it was an article of faith on the left side of politics that these very agencies were the enemies of democracy in America.
Well, this report, if true, would certainly explain it:
At the meeting in Helsinki, Finland, between Presidents Putin of Russia and Trump of the USA, the Russians gave to Trump at least 160 TERABYTES of Russian Intelligence Intercepts which expose horrifying activities of many, many, people to deliberately foment social, cultural, and political chaos, violent riots, demonstrations, media smears, phony scandals, and fake news.

Some of those intercepts reveal who has been financing weapons, supplies, travel, hotel, vehicle rentals and secure communications gear for Terrorist groups, inside Syria, Iraq, and terror attacks in Europe and the US. 

Among the intercepted communications are mostly international phone calls, faxes, emails by members of the US Congress, US Senate, federal Judges, state-level elected officials from California, Oregon, Washington, New York (City & State), New Jersey, Connecticut, Massachusetts, Maryland and Virginia.  Once those communications left the United States, they became fair game for any country to spy on.

A great number of these communications were encrypted, but Russia has found a way to BREAK much of the encryption!  And as part of their effort to improve relations with Trump, they provided the original encrypted versions of the intercepts AND the key which decrypts them so the US can use US-obtained intercepts (which may still be encrypted) along with the Russian-provided decryption key to prove the info is accurate and unedited!!!

Numerous high-ranking officials and well known wealthy people have been caught red-handed scheming together and with foreign governments along with radical leftist billionaires both inside and outside the US, to foment -- and finance -- extraordinary acts of political, social, and cultural chaos including riots, violent attacks, political unrest and more.

Some high-level MANAGERS at gigantic social media companies have received literally millions of dollars in pay-offs to establish or use under-the-radar company policies to impose severe censorship on certain views and to silence certain people; often times without the knowledge or consent of the Highest Executives or Boards of Directors of those companies!  These pay-offs USURP actual executive power in some giant social media outlets.

High level mass-media Producers, Editors, and some Writers in the US, UK, and elsewhere in Europe, have been paid-off with VAST sums of money to launch phony media smears. Push scandals. Create and report FAKE news stories.
On the one hand, this sounds a little too good to be true. Q has been entirely silent of late. On the other, we know this sort of thing is exactly what the globalists and their servants have been doing for decades, and we also know that Putin is a capable man who surrounds himself with capable men. It would be a surprise if he didn't have a considerable amount of data concerning the activities of the globalists who also oppose him. It's worth noting too that the entire media narrative has been focused on pushing the idea that Putin is somehow fooling Trump, which tends to indicate that they feared something like this happening.

Anyhow, whether this is truth or just wishful thinking, we should find out fairly soon.

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120 Comments:

Blogger Sherwood family July 18, 2018 5:33 AM  

We dodged so many bullets by electing the GE. One of the most important bullets was the insanity of wanting a hot war with Russia.

Having seen the reporting moving around Foggy Bottom in the 4-5 months leading up to the 2016 election I was terrified that Clinton and the rest of her cronies in and out of government would succeed in getting a hot war going with the Russians before the election.

In early October 2016 Putin publicly called for Russians to return home from abroad. Based on the anti-Russian sentiment running around D.C. foreign policy circles at the time I could not fault him for his response. That got toned down as soon as Trump was elected. In fact, the drums of war stopped beating entirely for a period.

But with the incessant Big Lie of collusion/Russian hacking, etc. we can see the unhinged warmongers are back at it and will do their best to kick off some kind of conflict.

I sincerely hope that Trump really does have the goods on some of these folks and can bring to criminal charges against them.

Blogger Mark Stoval July 18, 2018 6:01 AM  

"I sincerely hope that Trump really does have the goods on some of these folks and can bring to criminal charges against them."

I agree of course, but there is one more thing. If Trump was given that documentation by Putin, then he won the meeting. He could announce what he was given and then say to the public, "those who went nuts about us meeting with Russia are the ones who were afraid of this kind of material getting into my hands --- and rightly so. We have evidence of horrific misdeeds by people in the American government. Now that would wake the normies up!

Of course he could also use the info to blackmail swamp people into "early retirement". He has many options if this is true.

The downside is that, if this is true, there would be lots of folks looking to assassinate the guy.

Blogger Edward Isaacs July 18, 2018 6:07 AM  

Q has been silent because he got doxxed as some furry with a discord chatroom helping him brainstorm new "leaks".

I hope this report is true, though.

Blogger Sherwood family July 18, 2018 6:08 AM  

Unless he is trying to play his cards close to the vest until he is ready to act. Let's hope that the reported Qanon indictments and this news really do portend some defanging of swamp creatures in the not too distant future.

Blogger Hari Seldon July 18, 2018 6:15 AM  

I wonder if anything will come of Putin's very public reference to the $400K (misstated during the press conference as $400M, heh) in ill-gotten Russian funds that allegedly made its way to the Clinton campaign.

http://tass.com/world/1013707

Blogger Pavlosky Ufanov July 18, 2018 6:16 AM  

Edward Isaacs wrote:Q has been silent because he got doxxed as some furry with a discord chatroom helping him brainstorm new "leaks".

I hope this report is true, though.


Furries, of course, now everything makes sense.

Blogger Desillusionerad July 18, 2018 6:16 AM  

Putin is ex-kgb it's very unlikely he would tip his hand regarding what sort of data that Russia has intercepted (and by inference what it can) and what krypto it has broken (again by inference what it can break).
Putin is on his own side, not anyone else, don't confuse his motivations opposing the current world order, for your motivations.

Blogger JACIII July 18, 2018 6:19 AM  

Been thinking the problem the media have with Trump is that private meeting with Putin. Can't have those dirty nationalists getting their heads together where no one can keep an eye on them.

There is no telling what was exchanged between those two men, even if only verbally. At the very least Putin told him what the US IC has been up to lately.
Trump's presser yesterday was a little scary, The GE looks beat down. I hope the IC hasn't gotten their hooks into him.
There was another, "It's a bad idea to cross the IC.", warning shot yesterday.

Blogger Hari Seldon July 18, 2018 6:23 AM  

The hysteria over the private meeting always confused me. Can Trump not pick up the phone and speak privately to Putin at any time?

Blogger Josh (the sexiest thing here) July 18, 2018 6:23 AM  

https://www.infowars.com/hal-turner-admits-he-worked-for-the-fbi/

Blogger James Dixon July 18, 2018 6:28 AM  

From the report "In total, more than 160 TERABYTES of this type of data was given to President Trump in the form of 1 Terabyte USB Flash Memory Drives. The USB drives are DataTraveler® HyperX® Predator 3.0 USB Flash drives which hold 1 terabyte of data each."

That's fairly specific information for a made up report. We'll see. Brennan and McCain losing their collective mind (usage deliberate) lends credence to the report, as we know they both were heavily involved in the formation and funding of ISIS.

Blogger Arthur Isaac July 18, 2018 6:31 AM  

Well there is the "space" to operate I was harping about months ago. Putin's had space to operate for years and apparently has been putting it to the left for a while now. This is awesome AND frightening. Of course the Deep State is going to blow their bowels and spool up whatever John Hinkley Jr. they have in the wings.

I'm back to wondering about Mattis and the Marines and who might still be faithfully patriotic. 160 terrabytes is leaving little of that type of wondering to the imagination of President Trump.

Blogger Mark Stoval July 18, 2018 6:35 AM  

Desillusionerad wrote:Putin is ex-kgb it's very unlikely he would tip his hand regarding what sort of data that Russia has intercepted (and by inference what it can) and what krypto it has broken (again by inference what it can break).

Putin is on his own side, not anyone else, don't confuse his motivations opposing the current world order, for your motivations.


Putin may well think that Trump is the best thing for Russia to come along in a long time. Does anyone here really think that Russia would rather have cold war 2.0 than friendship with the west? Really?

Besides, at some critical point, the intercepted data must be used. What was it collected for otherwise? And I don't think the USA did not know that the Russians have similar capabilities to our own. We have this data too, hidden in the bowels of CIA and NSA were Trump can't get to it because the spooks are traitors. (or many of the high level ones are at least)

One last thing. Putin is not running the USSR, nor does he want to bring it back. He wants his country safe and he wants to sell oil and gas to the west. He wants his family and his tribe to be safe. Which would be better -- a strong Trump or an impeached Trump?

Blogger JACIII July 18, 2018 6:40 AM  



Strozk was domestic CoIntel. There is no telling what dirty deeds CoIntel has been up to, especially given the autonomy and protection from discovery that section has.

Explains Strozk's arrogance. They probably tell new members, "Welcome, to the real."
It is worth noting many in the Clinton upper echelons have clearances for the stuff that CoIntel does. A wannabe shadow government read in on all the dirty doings.

Blogger tublecane July 18, 2018 6:50 AM  

"But why?"

They've gone all-in on Muh Russia, so there kinda had to be an outrage climax whenever Blumpf finally met Pootie-Poot. Even if there were nothing extra going on, though there always is.

Muh Russia was their "insurance policy," but it's also their primary means of defense. So long as Grandma Mueller is at it and they can pretend Trump isn't really president, the heat isn't squarely on what they did wrong.

Blogger Random #57 July 18, 2018 6:52 AM  

"a little too good to be true" is about right, the thing that caught my eye is:

Some high-level MANAGERS at gigantic social media companies have received literally millions of dollars in pay-offs to establish or use under-the-radar company policies to impose severe censorship on certain views and to silence certain people; often times without the knowledge or consent of the Highest Executives or Boards of Directors of those companies!

These companies and their managers, from low to high level, don't need any payments to eagerly censor the Right. Facebook lower level people might balk at the extremes of Black Lives Matter, but this specific claim doesn't pass the smell test.

Blogger ZhukovG July 18, 2018 6:58 AM  

It is believed in some circles that Russia provided Turkey's Erdogan with warning about the failed coup attempt. Turkey certainly did warm up to Russia after it was quashed.

It could very well be that Russia, through Putin, has provided our GE with similar information. It would explain the 'beaten down' appearance as President Trump would have the unpleasant task of purging the traitors, while protecting his love ones. Both monumental tasks, fraught with peril.

No man wants his family in the line of fire. We must pray and pray harder for the Lord's protection and guidance.

Ad Victoriam, Deo Vindice, Ave Imperator Trump!

Blogger Peter Gent July 18, 2018 7:00 AM  

Mark Stoval wrote:The downside is that, if this is true, there would be lots of folks looking to assassinate the guy.


Rats are most dangerous when cornered with no possibility of escape.

Blogger Steve July 18, 2018 7:00 AM  

It's Hal Turner, so I assume it's bullshit, but it's probably a good guess.

There's a new tenor to the wailing of the cucks, shitlibs, and swamp creatures that wasn't present during their previous manufactured outrages over the Cholocaust, trade war, Stormy Daniels, gun control, etc. etc.:

Fear.

Naked, brick-shitting, sanity-dissolving terror.

"This is not normal!" screams the Respected Pundit. Indeed, it isn't.

No US President has ever been so viciously slandered for doing his job. Nobody in the darkest days of the Cold War claimed it was "treason" for Nixon or Reagan to talk to the leaders of America's sworn enemies. Nobody ruined their underwear in public because Obama or Dubya met a foreign autarch.

Russia isn't in the same weight class as the old Soviet Union. Its alleged sinister influence on US politics has amounted to Facebook trolling and allegedly tricking John Podesta into giving up his Gmail password.

So what are they afraid of?

SJW's always project. So does the thoroughly rotten political-media complex. If they're accusing the President of treason, the simplest explanation is they have committed treason and are terrified evidence will come to light.

Does the United States still have the death penalty for treason?

Blogger tublecane July 18, 2018 7:03 AM  

@9- Yeah, the Kristols and Frums of the world want Congress to force the president to give them a transcript, or something. Subpoena the translators? I dunno.

They're probably not serious, but there's I do get the sense they don't think Trump and Putin should be allowed to talk to eachother alone. Like keeping suspects from eachother in lockup.

Blogger Stilicho July 18, 2018 7:03 AM  

Just for fun, they should have brought Hillary's reset button to the presser. Along with the Russian intel on Uranium One, Clinton, Mueller, Comey, et al.

Blogger Salt July 18, 2018 7:06 AM  

It can be quite the surprise sometimes just who your friend is and has your back.

Blogger sysadmn July 18, 2018 7:07 AM  

I'll wait and see on the Hal Turner assertion. If Russia had the ability to break encryption and/or the ability to capture traffic and steal keys, they'd keep that pretty close to the vest. There are theoretical attacks against points in the system, but they would not want to advertise how successfully they could exploit them.

Blogger tublecane July 18, 2018 7:09 AM  

@16- First of all, just because they do it for free doesn't mean they're also not accepting money to do it.

Secondly "certain views" and "certain people" is not necessarily just the right. And it could be more specific than the right generally. For instance, directly after Parkland they appeared to be censoring references to "crisis actors." Regular conservatives might not have any idea what that means, whereas it could give conspiracy-woke lefties ideas.

Blogger tublecane July 18, 2018 7:14 AM  

"No prior president has ever abased himself so abjectly before a tyrant."

I guess they didn't teach McCain about Franklin "give Uncle Joe whatever he wants, then we'll have him right where we want him" Roosevelt in Navy school.

Not that McCain actually wrote that. I'm not sure he's even alive.

Blogger jwshell July 18, 2018 7:18 AM  

it occurs to me the left in the States is all butthurt because Russia gave up on Communism

Blogger Lazarus July 18, 2018 7:19 AM  

JACIII wrote:There is no telling what was exchanged between those two men

A Telstar-18 soccer ball, Official Game Ball of the FIFA 2018 World Cup.

Also coincidentally, the name of a communication satellite of the Canadian satellite communications company Telesat.

Blogger Emmett Fitz-Hume July 18, 2018 7:20 AM  

@20

I was thinking it was like manipulative children not wanting Mom and Dad to compare notes on the various lies they've been told. But yeah, pretty much the same thing.

Blogger Paul M July 18, 2018 7:23 AM  

Senator and Secretary of State Clinton never met a war she didn't like, didn't enthusiastically vote for and support. President Hillary Rodham Clinton would have started at least three wars by now. Australian troops even now would be killing people in Iran (and maybe occasionally getting killed).

I've decided that the response to anti-Trumpers is simply "Why do you hate world peace?".

Blogger JACIII July 18, 2018 7:24 AM  

sysadmn wrote:I'll wait and see on the Hal Turner assertion. If Russia had the ability to break encryption and/or the ability to capture traffic and steal keys, they'd keep that pretty close to the vest. There are theoretical attacks against points in the system, but they would not want to advertise how successfully they could exploit them.

GRU/KGB does HumInt at the highest level on the planet. You don't need a billion dollar computer center to hack the encryption keys if you own the guy who can give just give them to you.

Blogger Anchorman July 18, 2018 7:27 AM  

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It makes it really hard to argue that people aren't pushing us to war when they keep comparing this to things that literally pushed us to war.


Hmmmm.

Blogger The Kurgan July 18, 2018 7:32 AM  

I pray to God it is all true.
And that the God Emperor remains protected, strong, and able to dismantle the deep state down to the last bolt.
May the Paladin of Christendom Putin and God Emperor Trump vanquish the lizard beings once and for all.

Blogger JACIII July 18, 2018 7:34 AM  

In the book "Tower of Secrets" a former KGB colonel told of how the KGB controlled Yasser Arafat by keeping him stocked with little boys to play with and helping him cover it up when he broke them. This is especially noteworthy today given Brennan's histrionics and his ties to the Communist Party USA. If you were official Communist Party USA in the 60's and 70's you truly were a Soviet asset. KGB owned it, funded it, controlled it, directed it and has admitted such.

The rabbit hole is deep.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan July 18, 2018 7:37 AM  

Having the cabal's comms is totally plausible, first look at the type of idiots from the D party top to bottom, secondly all the Russian crooks that have wormed their way into the cabal are nothing but a security risk from being drunks who don't know what phone they picked up to being outright double agents. I doubt any of them have a better understanding of encryption than me, and I can barely turn on a computer.

Blogger anaxios July 18, 2018 7:38 AM  

Funny /pol/:

https://media.8ch.net/file_store/752e6a8d9b79bd4c0a79184d53ca96e59d1d2e8623021f3de6012f61fd290b8f.jpg

https://media.8ch.net/file_store/d4c01288a0e8a800816375748caed5832fc7d66eac06a0ecaaea97e4b206e790.jpg

https://media.8ch.net/file_store/79c48d5be34a30286d61c6f56025e04845b994a40d1e66dd82519a99d68fed63.jpg

Blogger Avalanche July 18, 2018 7:44 AM  

@3 "Q has been silent because he got doxxed as some furry with a discord chatroom helping him brainstorm new "leaks"."

And not ONE SINGLE ANON out of hundreds of thousands around the globe has bothered to mention that anywhere on the chans?! Whew! Talk about your massive-conspiracy theories!

Do us all a favor and until the psychedelic drugs wear off, you just stay off the internet, okay?!

Blogger Mr.MantraMan July 18, 2018 7:51 AM  

I just skimmed thru the comments at the Mail and it looks like a serious amount of energy is going in to gaslighting. Normally the comments are the populist positions and they garner the most likes, but today the comments read like twitter crap with the vast majority of likes going their way.

My WAG is that the president did get something out of this meeting just by his mood during the interviews with FOX, and he knew instantly that the words would and wouldn't had been twisted by his enemies and he let them build a hysteria for a day instead of having his chief of staff or comm gal rush out a correction.

I'll bet the have the interpreter testify line of wailing gets dropped most riky tick.

Blogger bob kek mando - ( don't ask, "Who mentats the Mentats?", ask instead, "Who shitpoasts the Shitpoasters?" ) July 18, 2018 8:06 AM  

36. Avalanche July 18, 2018 7:44 AM
Do us all a favor and until the psychedelic drugs wear off, you just stay off the internet, okay?!



how's he gonna collect that sweet, sweet Soros paycheck if he stay's off of the internet?

Blogger basementhomebrewer July 18, 2018 8:09 AM  

It's pretty clear that something happened. The shrill over the top reactions are out of phase with what was said publicly at the conference. I kind of doubt that it is as good as what is laid out in the article, but it's clear they are afraid of something.

Blogger bob kek mando - ( don't ask, "Who mentats the Mentats?", ask instead, "Who shitpoasts the Shitpoasters?" ) July 18, 2018 8:20 AM  

that's the rarely seen possessive "stay's", of course.

Blogger tuberman July 18, 2018 8:22 AM  

We are watching a mystery movie produced by MI/Trump with many role players. Scripted.

The passing of the soccer ball was symbolic, and the Deep State were terrified of this meeting.

Blogger Doug Cranmer July 18, 2018 8:26 AM  

Canada's Globe and Mail newspaper is considered the leading newspaper of note.

Their coverage of the summit is strange as well. Unhinged. Odd. The articles all have a funny lock step hysterical note to them.

And the comments are the same. The could be almost auto generated. Similiar language. Similar tone again.

There's definitely something off in the world today.

Blogger JACIII July 18, 2018 8:35 AM  

Doug Cranmer wrote:Canada's Globe and Mail newspaper is considered the leading newspaper of note.

Their coverage of the summit is strange as well. Unhinged. Odd. The articles all have a funny lock step hysterical note to them.

And the comments are the same. The could be almost auto generated. Similiar language. Similar tone again.

There's definitely something off in the world today.


Scripted. Shades of Journolist. It's not like we haven't been here before.

My guess is Putin said, "DJT, . Here is what I am going to have your MSM say about our summit. And the communist, John Brennan, He's going to say this meeting is treason! I have pictures of him doing ghastly things."

The left's claim that Putin has something on the GE smacks of the third law - SJWs always project. "They have stuff on me. They must have stuff on him!"

Blogger Ominous Cowherd July 18, 2018 8:39 AM  

bob kek mando - ( don't ask, "Who mentats the Mentats?", ask instead, "Who shitpoasts the Shitpoasters?" ) wrote:stuff that's actually sort of on topic ...

Gave up your campaign to get border collies to vote? Quitter!

Blogger Ominous Cowherd July 18, 2018 8:46 AM  

JACIII wrote:My guess is Putin said, "DJT, . Here is what I am going to have your MSM say ...

If Pootie-poot controled our Left and our MSM, they would behave very differently.

Blogger James Dixon July 18, 2018 8:46 AM  

> Strozk was domestic CoIntel. There is no telling what dirty deeds CoIntel has been up to

Not just domestic, apparently. Via Instapundit: https://bigleaguepolitics.com/exposed-peter-strzok-grew-up-in-iran-worked-as-obama-and-brennans-envoy-to-iranian-regime/

> it occurs to me the left in the States is all butthurt because Russia gave up on Communism

That's the root of the animosity, yes.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan July 18, 2018 8:47 AM  

If you want proof of the gaslighting going on over Muh Putin derangement follow the link Vox provides for Boris taking over, go down to the comments and click on highest rated. You will see the populist comments are drubbing the no likes by 100s to 1 and then compare the gas lighting taken place on the comments for this.

Blogger ZhukovG July 18, 2018 9:00 AM  

I know MPAI, but do they not realize that this hysteria just makes them look guilty as sin?

Are they reaching such a point of desperation that they want to start a civil war?

Perhaps a violent uprising would buy time for 'certain people' to escape.

Blogger John Calla July 18, 2018 9:02 AM  

The hysterics about Russia have been, from day one, simply designed to box Trump in in terms of what he could and could not do. It's been a fairly successful strategy since they managed to get him to put on a whole bunch of new sanctions against Russia, just so that Trump could "prove" there was no collusion.

They're hoping to contain his attempts at rapprochement until after Trump is out of office, then the US can go back to full-blown belligerence.

Blogger Rebel Skate July 18, 2018 9:02 AM  

If Russia really has that kind of dirt on traitorous Americans how best to get it into the record books?
I would say indicting a dozen foreign agents and having them testify in court would do the trick.
As Q likes to says THINK LOGICALLY

Blogger Mr.MantraMan July 18, 2018 9:09 AM  

#50 I read a blurb on Drudge (black pill man) yesterday that Mueller has of course reacted negatively to that offer. I also read at the Conservative Treehouse that the indictments were then put in the hands of the DOJ national security division where all of it will remain buried under nat sec concerns. In short all a political stunt.

Blogger James Dixon July 18, 2018 9:23 AM  

> Are they reaching such a point of desperation that they want to start a civil war?

If that's what it takes to get them back in power, yes.

Blogger Dangeresque July 18, 2018 9:33 AM  

"Some high-level MANAGERS at gigantic social media companies have received literally millions of dollars in pay-offs to establish or use under-the-radar company policies to impose severe censorship on certain views and to silence certain people; often times without the knowledge or consent of the Highest Executives or Boards of Directors of those companies! These pay-offs USURP actual executive power in some giant social media outlets.

High level mass-media Producers, Editors, and some Writers in the US, UK, and elsewhere in Europe, have been paid-off with VAST sums of money to launch phony media smears. Push scandals. Create and report FAKE news stories."

Wonder how much funny money they've been getting to push fag acceptance, miscegenation, and diversity hiring too? I've always found those phenomena way too prevalent to not have a bunch of money pushing them behind the scenes.

Blogger rondolf July 18, 2018 9:41 AM  

"No prior president has ever abased himself so abjectly before a tyrant."

Didn't Obama literally bow before the king of Saudi Arabia?

Blogger Cataline Sergius July 18, 2018 9:44 AM  

Honestly, I don't buy the multi terabyte dump of intel. The Russians are fundamentally incapable of giving away those kind of crown jewels. The Risk/Reward leans far too strongly to Risk for them to do that.

However, I have zero doubt whatsoever that this whole thing was staged in advance. ALL of the usual suspects had their statements ready.

If I was in their shoes I would have had three different lines of attack ready depending on how the presser went.

Now I admit that Trump made this one easy on them but you could smell the jet fumes from the tarmac. This bombing run was marshaled and ready to fly well in advance.

Blogger Amy July 18, 2018 9:45 AM  

@ rondolf,

My first thought, too. But then, Barry was just being a loyal subject.

Blogger MB July 18, 2018 9:51 AM  

"But why? There has been literally nothing to justify any of this over-the-top behavior".
This little piece of news might explain it:
https://www.duffelblog.com/2018/07/trump-offers-putin-full-control-of-the-entire-u-s-military/

Blogger Amy July 18, 2018 9:57 AM  

MB, yeah, Putin really is a magnificent bastard!

Moar shirtless Putin pics pleeze

Blogger John Calla July 18, 2018 10:07 AM  

The real problem here is that nobody in Trump's administration was willing to publicly defend him against the coordinated media lynching. And, if some reports are correct, John Kelly actually gave the green light for Republican leaders to go out and condemn the president.

A Democratic president would never have that.

Blogger Anchorman July 18, 2018 10:18 AM  

The real problem here is that nobody in Trump's administration was willing to publicly defend him against the coordinated media lynching.

True, but I also noticed how the leaks have stopped.

Blogger SmokeyJoe July 18, 2018 10:21 AM  

54 "Didn't Obama literally bow before the king of Saudi Arabia?"

Right? Americans don't bow. Then again, was Obama an American? Hmmm....

Blogger Humpty Dumpty #4464 July 18, 2018 10:22 AM  

How long until the Deep State uses the nuclear option? They announce that after much investigation, they now have evidence that votes were actually changed by Russian agents.

Blogger Robert Coble July 18, 2018 10:27 AM  

Given the evidence so far, which would YOU trust more: Vladimir Putin or the US IC? I trust Putin to have his personal and national interest at his highest priority. I do not trust the Deep State IC to have any US interests at all. Their personal interests appear to be their driving impulse.

As for the shrieking media meltdown by the GOPe and the Left over "would" or "wouldn't": it certainly shines a targeting laser beam on the formerly cloistered members of the Deep State of both parties and the media. There is no longer any question as to who is partially or completely controlled. I'm just surprised that the Deep State publicly blew so much cover over a press conference. Something is highly disproportionately off kilter.

Blogger Robert Pinkerton July 18, 2018 10:27 AM  

Heretofore conspicuous by its absence, as far as I could see, is comparison with the Munich conferense of 1938 between Neville Chamberlain and Hitler -- from which emerged Chamberlain's assertion of "... peace in our time..."

Blogger SciVo July 18, 2018 10:57 AM  

Hari Seldon wrote:The hysteria over the private meeting always confused me. Can Trump not pick up the phone and speak privately to Putin at any time?

I was expecting the hysteria to be cranked to 11, but this is literally crazy. I can only imagine that feverishly holding an unhinged conspiracy theory for so long turned Trump and Putin into fetish objects for globalists, so when the two touched it felt (to the fetishizers) like a storyspell had been cast into reality. Magickal thinking.

Blogger pdwalker July 18, 2018 11:00 AM  

The thought that this might be true sends a tingle down my leg.

If it turns out to be true, I’m not sure I’ll survive the following earthquake.

Entertaining at the very least.

Blogger The future is Darreing July 18, 2018 11:02 AM  

Anyone else noticing the almost forced as coordinated use of the word "PERFORMANCE" when the media describes the summit?

Blogger The future is Darreing July 18, 2018 11:02 AM  

Anyone else noticing the almost forced as coordinated use of the word "PERFORMANCE" when the media describes the summit?

Blogger camcleat July 18, 2018 11:06 AM  

@54

https://i.imgflip.com/2e8tx9.jpg

Blogger Mark Stoval July 18, 2018 11:13 AM  

Some here have said that there is NO WAY that the Russians could give up that kind of intel to Trump. We would know too much about their methods and capabilities.

Bullshit. Even that much intel might not be all they have. It might be a very small portion of what they have.

But the major item is that the Russians need to help anyone in the USA that is fighting the neo-cons and other deep state people who want continuous war. Russia is NOT the USSR, and Russia does not have the ability to fight the entire world by itself.

Helping the people in the USA who would like peace in the world is in Russia's national interest. Think on that a moment; and then ask why would they not help a man like Trump who comes along a couple of times a century at best.

I don't know if Putin gave Trump any data or not; but I believe he would if he could.

Blogger Zeroh Tollrants July 18, 2018 11:27 AM  

Does George Bush walking around & holding hands with King Saud count as "abasement?"

Blogger Lance E July 18, 2018 11:30 AM  

James Dixon wrote:From the report "In total, more than 160 TERABYTES of this type of data was given to President Trump in the form of 1 Terabyte USB Flash Memory Drives. The USB drives are DataTraveler® HyperX® Predator 3.0 USB Flash drives which hold 1 terabyte of data each."

That's fairly specific information for a made up report. We'll see. Brennan and McCain losing their collective mind (usage deliberate) lends credence to the report, as we know they both were heavily involved in the formation and funding of ISIS.



Wat? Literally anyone could google that "specific" information in about 5 seconds. Seriously, go to Google and type "1 tb usb flash drive", it looks like the second item that comes up.

In fact, the ridiculously exaggerated size is evidence to me that it's bullshit. Do you guys have any idea how much data 160 TB is? It's nearly 8000 hours of 4K video. For mere audio recordings and text files, which an "intelligence intercept" is far more likely to be (he even goes on to say that they're decrypted phone calls, faxes, emails, etc.) we're talking about millions of hours of audio and billions of pages of text - far more content than any human being or even a large organization would ever have time to sift through.

I totally understand wanting this stuff to be true, but that degree of gullibility is partly how the right keeps getting played. The legacy media lies, constantly, but that doesn't mean every nutter on the internet with a different story is telling the truth.

Blogger Gen. Kong July 18, 2018 11:41 AM  

The downside is that, if this is true, there would be lots of folks looking to assassinate the guy.

The 'Greenpeace' hang-glider man in Scotland (where the SS agent died from a "stroke") smells very fishy. If the chans are correct, the Cuck Island authorities approved his flight plan (within 20-30 yards of POTUS) and never told SS about it.

The totally unhinged screeching of "treason" from leftists and the Trotskyites pretending to be 'conservatives' indicates that Trump was over the target more than anything else.

Blogger ZhukovG July 18, 2018 11:55 AM  

@Lance E: I also find the details of this claim a bit absurd. However, I believe it is highly likely that, as a sign of good faith, Vladimir Putin shared intelligence information that may be vital to President Trump.

The insane reaction of 'the usual suspects' to this summit just about confirms it.

Blogger Johnny July 18, 2018 12:10 PM  

>>he let them build a hysteria for a day instead of having his chief of staff or comm gal rush out a correction...

>>Their coverage of the summit is strange as well. Unhinged. Odd. The articles all have a funny lock step hysterical note to them...

Trump is given to this. Over and over he lets the other side vent. And then when it starts chilling out, he responds. This time more quickly than usual. So, I don't know?? Works for him.

Blogger Johnny July 18, 2018 12:16 PM  

My take is that the
"shared intelligence" is for show, and that is okay with me.

A rule for lawyers is that when you got a guy on the stand you don't ask a question unless you are reasonably certain of the answer already. Same with summits. The ones that are well run are mostly staged.

Something to keep in mind is that summits of this sort are not zero sum games. We should not be concerned if Putin did better or worse than Trump. Only be concerned with how well we did. And as of now I see no downside at all for us, thus at the least I think we did okay.

Blogger CJ July 18, 2018 12:52 PM  

Lance E #72

Agree about the unlikely "160 terabytes". When I used to burn movies to DVD, the DVDs held 4.7 gigabytes, so a terabyte would be enough for at least 200 feature-length movies. 160 terabytes would be a truly colossal data dump. Color me skeptical.

Blogger Cetera July 18, 2018 1:06 PM  

CJ wrote:Lance E #72

Agree about the unlikely "160 terabytes". When I used to burn movies to DVD, the DVDs held 4.7 gigabytes, so a terabyte would be enough for at least 200 feature-length movies. 160 terabytes would be a truly colossal data dump. Color me skeptical.


I have a NAS at my house that I use for personal data storage that is currently hosting about 9 TB of data. I've got another ~15 TB of drive space in my primary PC (which does have a lot of duplicated data from the NAS).

I guestimate I have 15 TB of un-duplicated data, of my OWN data, that I've been collecting and saving for the past 20 years. One person for 10 years, plus another person (wife) for another 10 years.

Is it possible, even reasonable, that a nation's intelligence operations focusing on known high-value targets in the U.S. would amass over a period of ~8 years a mere 10x the amount of my own data I've kept?

I would say that is a strong yes.

Blogger Hammerli280 July 18, 2018 1:18 PM  

It seems to me that this was all a setup planned by Mueller and the Propaganda Press. Mueller drops the indictment two days before the summit. If Trump confronts Putin, the Propaganda Press attack is, "Trump wrecks US-Russia relations!" If Trump does not confront Putin, the attack is, "Trump colludes with Putin!"

Personally, I think it's time Trump stopped playing games and started mounting a serious counterattack against this seditious conspiracy.

Blogger Desillusionerad July 18, 2018 1:25 PM  

Mark Stoval wrote:Some here have said that there is NO WAY that the Russians could give up that kind of intel to Trump. We would know too much about their methods and capabilities.

Bullshit. Even that much intel might not be all they have. It might be a very small portion of what they have.


You aren't thinking about this the right way, if i say:
je voudrais une coffe sil vous plait.
What information did that reveal?
That i would like a coffee for those who don't speak french, and that i speak french, and it's not my native language, since i didn't say Café.
If the Russians were to reveal information A, that the US can determine must have come from a signals intercept, that means they could know information B-X since they also travel those paths.
And they might figure out that they have broken a Krypto the US previously thought was safe to use, and thus stop.
And the US might also figure out that since the Russians didn't supply information Æ that means that they don't have that information, and consequently either don't know of that particular stream, can't intercept it, or can't break it.

Blogger Mark Stoval July 18, 2018 1:31 PM  

I loved the following from Chateau Heartiste:

https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2018/07/18/physiognomy-is-squeal/

A reminder that all of the leftoids smothering the airwaves with their anti-Trump, anti-White brain droppings are some combination of ugly, fucking ugly, androgynous, and obese.

This. Is. The. Fuggernaut.

Foot soldiers for the Lords of Lies.

A degenerate freak parade of losers, fatties, sexual identity deviants, and headcases whose sole reason for living is to shit on all that is True and Beautiful because they resent anything Good in this world that throws their ugliness into stark relief.

So the next time you feel the need to engage one of these leftoid creatures in debate, just know what kind of shoggoth is on the other end, and you’ll stop bothering trying to reason with it and start shoving its bloated porcine body in an extra-wide locker. Unventilated.

Blogger Mark Stoval July 18, 2018 1:34 PM  

@80

I have heard the theory that you can never use the intel you have even if your very country's existence is on the line because someone might know how you got it. Never believed it though.

If Russia will not help Trump now, then when? Or perhaps you think they believe they will survive when the Democrats get the nuclear war they want.

Blogger OneWingedShark July 18, 2018 1:43 PM  

Hari Seldon wrote:The hysteria over the private meeting always confused me. Can Trump not pick up the phone and speak privately to Putin at any time?
Ah, but such things can be tapped, and easily, if those "securing" the line wish to do so. (ie Do you trust the Intel Community to NOT spy on the President?)

Steve wrote:SJW's always project. So does the thoroughly rotten political-media complex. If they're accusing the President of treason, the simplest explanation is they have committed treason and are terrified evidence will come to light.

Does the United States still have the death penalty for treason?

Yes, it does. Moreover, it's fairly obvious that there has been Treason committed in broad daylight; while this is about the Senate, I'm sure there are other, less blatant, actions.

Observably, the massive and continual resistance to any form of border-security are evidence of sedition and treason; but proving this (especially given multiple administrations worth of time and scale) in a legal case would be neigh impossible.

Blogger OneWingedShark July 18, 2018 2:08 PM  

ZhukovG wrote:I know MPAI, but do they not realize that this hysteria just makes them look guilty as sin?
Are they reaching such a point of desperation that they want to start a civil war?
Perhaps a violent uprising would buy time for 'certain people' to escape.

Short answer: yes.
I'm mostly convinced that if the general public KNEW what merely their average politician did, there'd be lamp-post decorating parties. This says nothing about things like banks and large multinational corporations; both of which seem to be fairly active in subverting the country. [If you consider H1B and H2B as government run programs for "population replacement", then it becomes clear that theses have had an active hand in undermining the country.] -- All of this is "low level" and requires no greater evil than greed; throw in globoalism-as-a-conspiracy and things get darker a lot quicker, even if this is fairly well-known/-established at this point... now, what do you think would be the result of expanding to consider other evil motivations other than mere greed?

Mark Stoval wrote:@80I have heard the theory that you can never use the intel you have even if your very country's existence is on the line because someone might know how you got it. Never believed it though.
You're right not to believe that: it's stupid. Intel that you cannot move on might as well be non-extant, so if that were the case, then ALL money spent on intel is wasted, and therefore the intel agencies are merely money-wasters.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd July 18, 2018 2:10 PM  

Desillusionerad wrote:If the Russians were to reveal information ...

If the Russians were ever to act on information they have gathered, we could deduce that they have that information, and thus they can never act upon the intelligence they have gathered. Why bother to gather the information in the first place, if you can never use it?

Yes, turning over any info would tell us a lot about what else they might know. That doesn't mean they won't do it, if they think they can gain by it.

Terrabytes of data? That's a crap-flood, not a help. Why not just a few kilo-bytes of smoking gun evidence? Surely Russia has more than enough info for an uncorrupted American court to hang Hillary and McCain and hundreds others? Finding that uncorrupted American court would be the only difficulty.

Blogger Desillusionerad July 18, 2018 2:13 PM  

What did the British do after they cracked the German's cryptography?

Blogger Ominous Cowherd July 18, 2018 2:39 PM  

Desillusionerad wrote:What did the British do after they cracked the German's cryptography?

They did whatever they thought was best for them.

Remember that British leadership are selected for their class, not their competence.

Blogger Nikephoros II Phokas July 18, 2018 2:41 PM  

"Terrabytes of data? That's a crap-flood, not a help. Why not just a few kilo-bytes of smoking gun evidence?"

The size of the cache caught my eye too.

It would seem to imply a lot of video or at least audio.

Unless Russia has collected every single email and page of text sent by the Deep State since the fall of the Soviet union. It'd take years to go through all that.

Blogger Avalanche July 18, 2018 3:20 PM  

@38 "Do us all a favor and until the psychedelic drugs wear off, you just stay off the internet, okay?!
how's he gonna collect that sweet, sweet Soros paycheck if he stay's off of the internet?"

Um. How about: I don't care? I AM ilk, after all -- and it's our motto, yes?

Blogger SciVo July 18, 2018 3:25 PM  

Lance E wrote:In fact, the ridiculously exaggerated size is evidence to me that it's bullshit. Do you guys have any idea how much data 160 TB is? It's nearly 8000 hours of 4K video. For mere audio recordings and text files, which an "intelligence intercept" is far more likely to be (he even goes on to say that they're decrypted phone calls, faxes, emails, etc.) we're talking about millions of hours of audio and billions of pages of text - far more content than any human being or even a large organization would ever have time to sift through.

That is a bizarre objection. Modern signal intelligence is a Big Data problem. After sucking it all up, they do not have humans manually read and listen to it all; you are right on one thing, that would be absurd.

Even if you believe that Trump cannot really trust *any* of the intelligence agencies or IT firms that have mature, sophisticated tools for sifting through haystacks for interesting needles, he doesn't quite have to. Even if they're all liars, as long as they have distrustful factions and would not all coordinate the same bad analysis, he can just give the same input to a bunch and see how their output differs.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash July 18, 2018 3:36 PM  

There is an entire category or intel that is completely safe to use: the intel that the other side already knows you have. As an example, handler reports, intercepted phone calls, surveillance footage, information collected on bug already discovered and disposed of, etc.

Let's presume that their counter-intelligence has neutralized an intel gathering op within the Russian intel service. Releasing that info is completely safe, the US already has it.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd July 18, 2018 3:43 PM  

SciVo wrote:Modern signal intelligence is a Big Data problem. After sucking it all up, they do not have humans manually read and listen to it all; you are right on one thing, that would be absurd.

Certainly it could be automatically sifted with a decent probability of finding stuff. I think the point was that it's unlikely that the Russians have 8,000 hours of 4k video of 0bammy and Crooked Hillary, and 160TB is just a ridiculous amount of text or audio, when a few kB of carefully chosen text or audio would suffice to literally hang 0bammy and his entire crew.

No data ever had to change hands. If Putin wanted to pass Trump a smoking gun, it would have been enough for Putin to tell Trump: have your people listen to a conversation that took place between these two phone numbers at that time and date.

It's all speculation. The one thing we can be sure of is that the Left is panicking about something, real or imagined.

Blogger James Dixon July 18, 2018 4:07 PM  

> Literally anyone could google that "specific" information in about 5 seconds.

Well, duh. You think?

Look, if this is fake, it's supposed to be just mysterious enough to be believable but not offer enough details to be refuted. Those are details that could be refuted. There's no reason to include them in a fake story.

> Do you guys have any idea how much data 160 TB is

Yes, we do. Do you have any idea how much email traffic alone is transmitted? Try over 250 billion per day: https://www.statista.com/statistics/456500/daily-number-of-e-mails-worldwide/

Blogger Matamoros July 18, 2018 4:40 PM  

The 160 terabytes certainly goes a long way toward establishing Putin's good will and bonafides in helping protect Western Civilization - as well as proving Sorcha Faal to be correct about this:

Putin Gives Trump Shocking Evidence That Obama-Clinton CIA Director John Brennan Is Longtime Russian Spy

http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index2607.htm
UPDATE:

“Deep State” Rallies Behind Now Exposed Russian Spy John Brennan With Call For US Military To Overthrow Trump

http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index2608.htm

Blogger Gettimothy July 18, 2018 5:17 PM  

Maybe it is part for the course for the data Google, Twitter and facebook collect for designated subsets ?

Blogger Ominous Cowherd July 18, 2018 6:45 PM  

James Dixon wrote:> Do you guys have any idea how much data 160 TB is

Yes, we do. Do you have any idea how much email traffic alone is transmitted? Try over 250 billion per day:


We can be fairly sure that most of those 250 billion per day were not transmitted by criminal members of the previous administration. A 320kB floppy disk could hold more than enough data to hang all of 0bammy's merry minions, so why terrabytes?

Blogger James Dixon July 18, 2018 7:14 PM  

> ...so why terrabytes?

I have no idea, unless videos are included. Videos do take up a fair amount of space. A 20+ minute compressed 720K video runs about 300MB in my experience. Even low quality videos can eat up space fairly rapidly, especially if not compressed.

Blogger By My Greybeard! July 18, 2018 9:00 PM  

Yeah...
... like, an intelligent lifeform.

Blogger SirHamster July 18, 2018 9:03 PM  

Ominous Cowherd wrote:A 320kB floppy disk could hold more than enough data to hang all of 0bammy's merry minions, so why terrabytes?

A raw or less filtered dataset has more value because it lets us draw our own conclusions, rather than being spoonfed something "Russian".

The size does indicate pictures/video, which may be rather nasty stuff if it is incriminating globalist blackmail/occult material.

Blogger Dirk Manly July 18, 2018 11:07 PM  

@2

" If Trump was given that documentation by Putin, then he won the meeting. He could announce what he was given and then say to the public, "those who went nuts about us meeting with Russia are the ones who were afraid of this kind of material getting into my hands --- and rightly so. We have evidence of horrific misdeeds by people in the American government. Now that would wake the normies up!

Of course he could also use the info to blackmail swamp people into "early retirement". He has many options if this is true.

The downside is that, if this is true, there would be lots of folks looking to assassinate the guy."

The child-rapers are ALREADY looking to assassinate him.

They ALREADY know that he went to Pedophile Island exactly once, and upon his return, permanently Epstein and anyone who associates with him from Mar-a-lago.

That's why they've all been so (apparently) irrationally opposed to him -- because they can't publicly state the REAL reason they consider him to be their enemy.

Blogger Dirk Manly July 18, 2018 11:38 PM  

@7

"Putin is ex-kgb it's very unlikely he would tip his hand regarding what sort of data that Russia has intercepted (and by inference what it can) and what krypto it has broken (again by inference what it can break).
Putin is on his own side, not anyone else, don't confuse his motivations opposing the current world order, for your motivations."

The ONLY reason an intel/spy guy like Putin would reveal capabilities in the cryptographic arena (which is what providing raw intercepts, decrypts, and keys would do) would be if he thought that there was an existential threat to Russia, and that revealing these capabilities would be more than made up for by the resulting actions of the recipient.

A comparable example would be Churchill's decision to have the British MOD share all of their sonar/radar/communication/navigation etc. understanding with U.S. military R&D, because in the long run, although Sealowe was postponed, it would eventually be either resurrected, or replaced with a better plan.

Blogger Dirk Manly July 18, 2018 11:42 PM  

@8

"
Trump's presser yesterday was a little scary, The GE looks beat down. I hope the IC hasn't gotten their hooks into him."

He's been stopping at a LOT of different time-zones. Jet-lag IS a thing. Standard U.S. Army procedures for air travel is one day of no-duties accomodation for every 3-hour difference in time zone change between point of departure and destination.

Blogger Dirk Manly July 18, 2018 11:45 PM  

@9

"The hysteria over the private meeting always confused me. Can Trump not pick up the phone and speak privately to Putin at any time?"

The best defense against SIGINT is to not use signal equipment in the first place.

Why was Operation Wacht Am Rhein so successful? Because for once, the Germans did NOT rely on their rotary encryption machines (Allied codename "Enigma") to communicate the plans for this attack. The entire thing was done in in-person meetings, and paper delivered by courier.

Blogger Dirk Manly July 18, 2018 11:50 PM  

@12

"I'm back to wondering about Mattis and the Marines and who might still be faithfully patriotic. 160 terrabytes is leaving little of that type of wondering to the imagination of President Trump."

Don't expect immediate action.

Raw Intercepts need to be verified vs searching through and finding our own NSA interceptions, then a significant portion will need to be translated.

Blogger Dirk Manly July 18, 2018 11:56 PM  

@13

"Putin may well think that Trump is the best thing for Russia to come along in a long time. Does anyone here really think that Russia would rather have cold war 2.0 than friendship with the west? Really?"

In the past, every time Russia has warmed up to western Europe, they've been burned.

On the other hand, the US and Russia enjoyed fantastic relations right up until the Red Army finally defeated the White Army. And even then, we managed to be allies during WW2 (oddly, to neither the benefit of Russians or the USA, despite beating the Nazis).

This is simply a return to the LONG-standing, friendly relationship between the U.S. and Russia. How far back did that go? The founder of the Imperial Russian Navy is John Paul Jones.

And consider this -- when the Czar wanted money and decided to sell off Alaska -- which borders on CANADA, why didn't he sell it to the Brits? They had more money! Obviously, czar Nicholas trusted the U.S more than he did the Brits/Canadians.

Blogger Dirk Manly July 18, 2018 11:59 PM  

@13

" What was it collected for otherwise? "

In signals intelligence, you collect EVERYTHING you can, regardless of whether you have a use for it or not. The alternative is to collect ONLY what you already know you have a used for at the time. Such a policy would require then going "back in time" to collect the signals which you ignored originally -- which of course, is impossible.

So, you simulate going "back in time" to get the signals which you NOW realize you need by collecting it all, regardless of perceived value at the moment.

Blogger Dirk Manly July 19, 2018 12:43 AM  

@26

"it occurs to me the left in the States is all butthurt because Russia gave up on Communism"

Gave up? That's an understatement.

Reagan is a HERO in Russia.

Blogger Dirk Manly July 19, 2018 12:52 AM  

@27

"Also coincidentally, the name of a communication satellite of the Canadian satellite communications company Telesat."

Wow.... just wow.

Telstar is the name of one of the first active (as oposed to passive) communications satellites. It was so famous in the early part of its service life that a Billboard #1 hit was name after it -- "Telstar" recorded by the British band, the Tornadoes.

Blogger Dirk Manly July 19, 2018 12:55 AM  

"I was thinking it was like manipulative children not wanting Mom and Dad to compare notes on the various lies they've been told."

A tell-tale sign of someone having Borderline Personality Disorder is that they go absolutely bonkers when two people who have contact with the BPD individual get together, and have an opportunity to compare notes.

Blogger Dirk Manly July 19, 2018 1:03 AM  

@41

"The passing of the soccer ball was symbolic, and the Deep State were terrified of this meeting."

I brought the ball up the side-line -- I'm passing it to you, on the other side of the field, now, so you can slam it into a wide-open net.

Blogger Dirk Manly July 19, 2018 1:05 AM  

@42

"Canada's Globe and Mail newspaper is considered the leading newspaper of note.

Their coverage of the summit is strange as well. Unhinged. Odd. The articles all have a funny lock step hysterical note to them.

And the comments are the same. The could be almost auto generated. Similiar language. Similar tone again.

There's definitely something off in the world today."

The Flak is heaviest when you're right square over the target, coming in from the optimal line of attack.

Blogger Dirk Manly July 19, 2018 1:34 AM  

@48

"Perhaps a violent uprising would buy time for 'certain people' to escape."

Yeah.... right up until the White House orders all international flights grounded until the "wanted -- detain for pickup by U.S. Marshals" list is distributed to each and every airfield around the country.

Blogger Dirk Manly July 19, 2018 1:36 AM  

@52

"If that's what it takes to get them back in power, yes."

What does someone who engages in child snuff-sex care about the lives of millions of people who aren't himself?

Blogger Dirk Manly July 19, 2018 3:19 AM  

@59

"And, if some reports are correct, John Kelly actually gave the green light for Republican leaders to go out and condemn the president."

This leaves only one inescapable conclusion:

♣♣♣ Kelly ♣♣♣ has to go back.

Blogger Dirk Manly July 19, 2018 3:34 AM  

@53

"I'm just surprised that the Deep State publicly blew so much cover over a press conference. Something is highly disproportionately off kilter."

The evidence:
1) Putin campaigned on raising the standard of living in Russia and has succeeded beyond the public's wildest dreams.
2) Putin restored the Russian Orthodox church (Christianity) to respectability.
3) Putin told Russian couples to go home and make babies -- and I'll pay you if you do.
4) Putin banned the sodomizers from even interacting with children.
5) At the Sochi Olympics, he put the hostile press in an hotel that was still under construction with most of the bathrooms not even started, forcing these neo-Communists to share such facilities on a community basis. Their massive whining about how they HATEY-HATE HATE SHARING BATHROOMS WITH EACH OTHER, despite all their pro-Commie rhetoric, was quite the hoot, and shows that Putin, too, is a master troll.


Conclusion, the baby-snuff-sex set doesn't control Putin, so of course they consider him to be !¡!¡!¡!¡!¡!¡ WORSE THAN HITLERZILLA !¡!¡!¡!¡!¡!¡!¡

Blogger Dirk Manly July 19, 2018 3:39 AM  

@71

> Does George Bush walking around & holding hands with King Saud count as "abasement?"

I think we all know, when behind closed doors, who was in front, bending over, and who was behind, standing up.

Blogger Dirk Manly July 19, 2018 3:54 AM  

@82

"I have heard the theory that you can never use the intel you have even if your very country's existence is on the line because someone might know how you got it."

Tell that to Halsey and Fletcher in the Pacific.

They even assassinated Yamoto based on intel. 14-hour mission in P-38's, just to shoot down his transport as it was arriving. Of course, to hide the fact that it Yamoto was the target, they bombed and strafed the airfield, to make it look as if he just happened to arrive at just the wrong time.

Likewise, tell it to Eisenhower, Bradley and Patton, all of whom had the Enigma decrypts daily....and used them quite well.

You can't use ALL of your intel, because sometime's there's just no denying how you got it... but a lot of times, you can stage an operation that makes it LOOK like that was how you got your info, just before you execute the operation meant to exploit it. (Which gives your opponent the impression that you can spin up an operation REALLY quickly).

Blogger Dirk Manly July 19, 2018 4:02 AM  

@85

"Surely Russia has more than enough info for an uncorrupted American court to hang Hillary and McCain and hundreds others? Finding that uncorrupted American court would be the only difficulty."

Military tribunals.

We're still at war in Afghanistan, so, Mil T's are on the table.

Blogger James Dixon July 19, 2018 7:30 PM  

> The downside is that, if this is true, there would be lots of folks looking to assassinate the guy."

Cue this: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/07/18/secret-service-agent-who-died-stroke-is-remembered-by-trump-us-officials.html

It was apparently a brain hemorrhage. Interesting, isn't it?

Blogger Dirk Manly July 20, 2018 8:51 AM  

I don't think the Secret Service guy was killed by anything other than nature -- for the simple fact that the only way to induce a brain hemorrhage involves trauma to the skull. If he was hit hard enough to cause a concussion, then everyone would be screaming that a Secret Service guy was murdered.

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