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Saturday, August 11, 2018

Cuckery and civnattery won't save you

It is slowly beginning to dawn on the cuckservatives, conservatives, and civic nationalists that their universalism and equalitarian ideology isn't going to save them from the Not-Whites and their anti-West technodhimmis:
Gavin McInnes has spoke exclusively to Big League Politics after his Twitter account was banned Friday evening. “They think this is going to stop Trump,” he told Big League Politics. “Maybe if they deplatform us, the socialists will win – but they won’t. We’ve already won. You can’t stump the Trump.”

“The left is trying to make this about Unite the Right. It’s a lie,” he said.

The ban comes hours after McInnes spoke out against the “alt-right” Unite the Right demonstration that will be held in Washington, D.C. on August 12....

According to BuzzFeed, the accounts were removed for violating Twitter’s policy against “violent extremist groups.”

“’We can confirm that these accounts have been suspended from Twitter and Periscope for violating our policy prohibiting violent extremist groups,’ a [Twitter] spokesperson said in a statement to BuzzFeed News.”

As far as we can tell, none of the official Antifa Twitter pages have been banned, though there are few examples of Proud Boys violence, and hundreds of Antifa violence. Just last weekend, police in Portland, Oregon had to step in to protect the Proud Boys when they were physically attacked by Antifa counter-protestors at a rally.
Ironically, because the Left correctly sees displays of virtue-signaling as appeasement and weakness, now you are much more likely to be attacked if you stand AGAINST the nationalist Right than if you stand FOR it.

They fear us. They literally have nightmares about us. They're not at all afraid of those foolish enough to seek common ground with them.

History proves that nationalism and Christianity combined can defeat the dyscivilizational tide. Conclusively. Anything and everything that falls short of those two things, or weakens those two things, or perverts or subverts those two things, is effectively anti-Western civilization and a potential liability.

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90 Comments:

Blogger Randomatos August 11, 2018 8:07 AM  

The Commie left knows they're at war, and attack their enemy's communications accordingly. The moderates and cucks are nervously defending their "right" to do so, even though they rely on the real right to save them from the approaching hordes. Anyone else hear Julius Ceasar's ghost bellowing "didn't you idiots learn anything?"

Blogger Peaceful Poster August 11, 2018 8:07 AM  

Gavin's Indian Wife Card wasn't even enough to save him.

Blogger InformationMerchant August 11, 2018 8:11 AM  

He's still trying to disavow. We told him over a year ago that disavowing and banning Proud Boys from political ideologies would not save him. He was slow learning not to talk to the media after being burned repeatedly, so I'm not surprised he is still trying that. It also took him a long time to stop making video responses to being called a nazi. Then there's the repeated cross dressing and sticking a dildo up his ass on his show. (Image search it if you want, not hard to find.) No wonder his wife voted for Clinton.

Blogger InformationMerchant August 11, 2018 8:27 AM  

This is how his Proud Boys ban worked: https://imgur.com/a/YCc13L7

(Just text pictures, I wouldn't inflict his nudes on you.)

Blogger Meimou August 11, 2018 8:50 AM  

THEY HATE YOU AND WANT YOU DEAD.

Once you accept that you will never try to appease then again. They don't care if you have a Persian wife and a half Persian baby Cernavich. They don't care if you have a adopted Korean sister Jones. They don't care if you adopted a Chinese baby Knight. They know exactly what you are doing when you bring up your non white friends and family members. They know exactly what you are doing when you disavow the alt right. There is no "credit" with theses cretins.

There is no getting on their good side. They dont have a good side. There is no getting in their good graces. They don't have the grace to accept concessions, apologies or walk backs.

THEY HATE YOU AND WANT YOU DEAD.

Blogger Dieter August 11, 2018 8:55 AM  

Anyone else have a pic of a woman show up as “Ben Shapiro” in your YouTube recommendations? Everyone seems to recognize the obvious.

Blogger Mister Excitement August 11, 2018 8:55 AM  


We can be confident that National Review, Weekly Standard, Charlie Kirk, Prager U, and Free Republic will be hooting about their Principles on Twitter and Youtube six months from now.

Those Conservatives will never been banned.

Blogger S. Misanthrope August 11, 2018 9:00 AM  

A leftist radio host with major pedo-face spammed me with those photos on Twitter. I’m not sure what they were supposed to prove, something like “Proud Boys are gay” but also “Proud Boys are anti-gay.” I’m sympathetic. It’s a lot of work to deceive as shamelessly as the left.

Blogger Ferdinand August 11, 2018 9:13 AM  

Nobody respects the ones who capitulate without fighting.

Blogger Solaire Of Astora August 11, 2018 9:14 AM  

Twitter banned the Proud Boys for violence but not Antifa? What a shocker. Surely the conservatives just need to expose a few more examples of leftist hypocrisy and people will see the light.

Blogger Doktor Jeep August 11, 2018 9:14 AM  

Trying to call the left out on their double standards is getting old. It does not work on them, and the normies are not thinking deep enough to see it even when we autistically point it out and cite endless examples.
Thus we should not waste our time and text on it, and instead put that energy into reaching those that are reachable, or breaking through the normie bubble.

Blogger Mister Excitement August 11, 2018 9:20 AM  

@11

"Surely the conservatives just need to expose a few more examples of leftist hypocrisy and people will see the light."

Exposing liberal hypocrisy worked for a very short time after Foxnews started in the late 90s.

I remember watching O'Reilly absolutely grilling Democrat operatives and they were visibly shaken.

The Left then stopped caring about their hypocrisy and they were just as successful. Maybe even more so.

Just look at the open and obvious corruption with the Clinton Foundation. They know they're in charge.

Blogger Longtime Lurker August 11, 2018 9:20 AM  

Twitter banned McInnes? Less noise. (Rolls over. Goes back to sleep.)

Blogger Looking Glass August 11, 2018 9:35 AM  

@12 Doktor Jeep

Calling a tall man "tall" isn't an insult. The problem for most is that Leftist have no desire to keep a society functioning. That's what is actually being abused. The key part is that someone that isn't trying to keep the society from collapsing is your enemy and there's really only one recourse available.

What we're seeing, right now, is the long process of people accepting how this will need to be cleaned up. There's a reason why Vox talks about the future breakup of the USA, along with introducing the 16 points.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan August 11, 2018 9:41 AM  

The cucks and civnats look like goofs, the Left approaches their world view as a negotiation the cucknats as eternal truth which of course is a fraud since the eternal truths shift by the day according to the the left who have negotiated the moral level of conflict all to themselves.

Wake me when these cucknats can actually start negotiating the Left's advantages away. Look we had decades of the hucksters of eternal truths and we finally get a negotiator in DJT and lo and behold we win, can't any of these cucknats figure this shit out?

Blogger Doktor Jeep August 11, 2018 9:50 AM  

@12

Thinking on this matter further, it seems that belligerence is still the order of the day.
Or some would say "that's alpha". Or something. Maybe this is part of the leftist movement that gives those little dopamine rushes to people who would otherwise be dead inside.
And maybe, lacking a mirror, to a belligerent leftist movement, we probably look very weak when we try to call them out on hypocrisy over matters that they themselves know they are making incursions on.
Do they chuckle in Israel with their ethnostate as jewish politicians and NGO/media tell us controlling our border is racist?
It's starting to look like it does not matter how correct we are. And maybe this is what works for the normies? Maybe we don't perceive life in normieland well enough for not living in it and so as Rightist A is mewling about "double standards" to Leftist B, Joe Normy and Valery Vacuous is merely and simply getting impressed by the "winner". And the winner to a normy is someone who does whatever he wants and does not care what anybody says (toxic individuality?). When have you, myself, or anybody else here physically sized anybody else up in non-combatant settings and made our observations the basis for our treatment of those we sized up? There are limits of course when we hit the ends of bell curve or someone is acting funny. Normy women use beauty- or tattoos and expensive crap- to establish their pecking orders. We call ourselves "autists" without proof because our real problem has always been that we didn't look down on little guys - unless they deserve it like Ben Shapiro - for being little nor would become submissive around bigger men. So the little guys took it as a sign of weakness and the bigger guys took it as a challenge and life has been complicated.
So we might not be fully comprehending leftist "will to power" and how they have weaponized their hypocrisy over normies and how weak we must appear when pointing out double standards. You are correct though. I remember the late 1990s when Fox News were the good guys. But boomer patriots, I have noticed, all want "one solution one time" so they can win and then go back to their motorcycles and sports - literally - and fail to notice that the enemy views a constantly changing battlefield. The leftists have entire think tanks for this, and they tabletop everything.
Now we need to start thinking about how to deal with leftist double standards, not by meekly calling it out, but by returning the favor, in actions and ideals TOWARDS life and love rather than against it.

Blogger Cliff Mccrary August 11, 2018 9:51 AM  

Jack posobiec urging people to donate to a leftist organization that provides scholarships for social justice in memory of heather hayer. Cuckservatism at its finest.

https://mobile.twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1027957174063058944

Blogger pyrrhus August 11, 2018 9:52 AM  

@3 "He's still trying to disavow. We told him over a year ago that disavowing and banning Proud Boys from political ideologies would not save him. He was slow learning not to talk to the media after being burned repeatedly, so I'm not surprised he is still trying that."

Gavin owned an advertising agency in NYC, so he thinks he's special, and the media will treat him differently.....slow learner.

Blogger Cliff Mccrary August 11, 2018 9:57 AM  

“The Heather Heyer Foundation will provide financial assistance to individuals passionate about positive social change. Donate to help us create a scholarship fund for those seeking to pursue an educational path towards social justice and unity.”

Wtf is wrong with these idiots? Yea let’s donate!

Blogger pyrrhus August 11, 2018 9:57 AM  

@17 Posobiec is another slow learner..When will these people understand that we're in a war?

Blogger Al From Bay Shore August 11, 2018 10:03 AM  

@17 That's donating to an organization that supports a person who joined others to attend a gathering for the purpose of beating up people with whom they disagreed. Regardless of how one feels about the Unite the Right organizers, nothing changes the fact that the "protesters" brought violence.

Once again, the most harmful principle is that of "anti-racism". The main reason why this became a high moral principle is because of an influential movement that was inherently Marxist - The Civil Rights Movement.

Make no mistake, Civil Rights, The Black Panther Party, The Black Liberation Army, Black Lives Matter, and so many others are cut from the same Marxist/ socialist cloth. And, sadly, this has influenced the politics of popular Black culture. Marxists form a moral principle that used to undermine and attack the right of the individual to make decisions about the way they want to live. Anti-racism is that principle. The Cucks and embraced this to their detriment.

Blogger Al From Bay Shore August 11, 2018 10:05 AM  

Errata: "and" in the last sentence should be "have".

Blogger tz August 11, 2018 10:07 AM  

The way to deal with the left's double standards is to ignore those standards and impose our (small government big ostracism) standards on them whether they like it or not as that is what they are trying to do with us.

Unless you want the USA to turn into Zimbabwe, Venezuela, or have an archipelago of Sharistans here.

The midwit people moving to the alt-right, including if not especially the libertarians who now have to fight covergence haven't noticed the demographics.

Like McInnes, they still disavow - punch - the allies that would make National Capitalism possible and to tear down the overweening tyrannical government. They have it wrong, we're MAGA NaKa's. At the same time, I don't see them going into the dark jungles like Watts in LA, South Side Chicago, Detroit, Selma, Atlanta, or Baltimore, on a missionary journey to convert people to their philosophy, or except rare occasions, condemning the violence of the people. At best they retreat into academic discussions on Rothbardian Ethics, or what it would be like if the Constitution wasn't a dead letter living document instead of doing something active to bring it about.

When dealing with cannibals, you fight, for with words you will just end up as cuck soup.

Blogger tz August 11, 2018 10:11 AM  

@21 they had coverage at the Gateway Pundit and I posted a comment - not the only one - objecting and pointing out that Fields hasn't even had all the preliminies to his trial so it hasn't even been established it is murder and there are exculpatory videos most haven't seen.

Yes, by all means give your Jizya to the violent anti-Christian, Anti-White bigoted hate mob's charity.

Blogger TheMaleRei August 11, 2018 10:11 AM  

This is also a shit-test for Gavin - if he cucks hard enough, he'll get the $$$ of controlled opposition. If he doesn't cuck hard enough, he'll find himself even further deplatformed all while screeching defiance and how much more morally superior he is to everyone else.

I hope he doesn't become controlled opposition, but he's a long way from being ready for what is needed to be done.

Blogger Chris Topher August 11, 2018 10:19 AM  

Hurumph. Well, I do declare! Is that close to what a southern lady from ye olden times localities might say? Whatever, ya pussies. Liability is the least of yur concerns ladies. You wanna make deals with the devil to save what is not salvagable due to a small thing called the end of everything. Go right ahead. Isn't going to work. Or do you wanna stand on your feet and die honorably with other men? What say you saints? Or sinners? Personally, and hopefully I would go for option three. We are saved by Grace, by Faith, and by the blood of Jesus. Praise God! And pass the ammo nition. Good day sister.

Blogger tz August 11, 2018 10:20 AM  

I think I've figured out my error with "The Proud Boys".

I had the wrong definition, as in "Proud of being part of Western Civilization". They weren't proud of being men, being white or their race, being Christian or at least following its morality.

By "Proud", they instead meant arrogance or Hubris. As in "we're so great they won't deplatform us".

Blogger Al From Bay Shore August 11, 2018 10:22 AM  

@24 This is what they do. Before anything is known, the Left and the MSM (but I repeat myself) gets to the task of framing a narrative designed to create victims and oppressors. Trayvon was made into a victim and Zimmerman was made into the oppressor before any facts were known. By the time the facts were known, it was revealed that Trayvon stalked Zimmerman, attacked him, and tried to kill him. Of course, by the time this was known, the lie had taken on the garb of truth.

No person knows how Heather Heyer died and no person knows why the dude gunned his car, and we won't know until the facts of the criminal trial are made known. What we do know is that people coming in the name of Antifa and Black Lives Matter came to Charlottesville for the purpose of physically attacking people with whom they disagreed. It's reasonable to entertain the idea that Heather Heyer could be counted among those individuals.

Blogger Phillip George August 11, 2018 10:27 AM  

Burn witches.

It's a policy statement. How complicated is this? Witch burners have been shunned, ostracized, lampooned, marginalized, discriminated against, deplatformed. Protect your witch burners and they'll protect you.

Jeremy Renner's quasi documentary "Hansel and Gretel" is all the evidence we need.

Note to self: Don't enter residential premises constructed from high sugar content building materials.

Unless YHVH builds a house they labour in vain. I think George Washington thoroughly knew this concept. I think he was hoping his posterity would include a few good witch burners..... Join the dots team.

Blogger Lurker August 11, 2018 10:48 AM  

It's almost all over for the U.S. The Russians helping the U.S. wake up is the least they could do after the Soviets learned the indirect ways of (((them))) and turned the whole boomertard generation into leftist Pavlov's dog's and now the generational fruit after the boomer idiots which antifa represents is completely lefTARD.

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2013/02/28/former-kgb-agent-yuri-bezmenov-explains-our-four-stages-the-new-normal-2/

Queen to F7, Checkmate!

Blogger Phillip George August 11, 2018 10:52 AM  

“We ought to be no less persuaded that the propitious smiles of heaven can never be expected on a nation that disregards the eternal rules of order and the right which heaven itself has ordained.”

traveled on foot to Saint Paul’s Chapel. No one knows exactly what was said inside but we do know the entire government was on their knees praying and consecrating this nation to God. In the chapel there is also a plaque above Washington’s pew with the words “Almighty God, we make our earnest prayer that you will keep the United States in Holy protection.” Saint Paul’s Chapel is located at the corner of Ground Zero and is the ......... birthplace of America.

for all their foibles faults and unsaid words, Washington was rather hoping God would "keep" America.

the critical juncture is "which God"?

Hillary's or George's or neither?
So set your own hearts now, to hope for the propitious blessing of the One God Who raised Jesus Christ from the dead. What can God bless that He hasn't already? Just stand on His side of the fence. Let the other burn. God gave details of Who He is based on Events He brought to pass. Any other god isn't.

Blogger InformationMerchant August 11, 2018 10:56 AM  

http://archive.is/CsW9I

Cerno didn't give them a quote telling people to donate although he did post the link to the story: https://twitter.com/Cernovich/status/1027969506361016321

Blogger The Deplorable Podunk Ken Ramsey August 11, 2018 10:57 AM  

Things have gotten totally nuts around here. In Virginia they have preemptively declared a state of emergency in Charlottesville, even though Unite The Right is going to be in DC. In DC UTR is being assigned their own Metro trains, I cannot recall this ever happening before. How will that work? It will require some level of cooperation from UTR with the Metro people who are openly hostile. And will Antifa be waiting on the platform for when the UTR Express arrives? That’s a premium ambush opportunity if you ask me.

Restaurants and shops in town have shifted into virtue-signaling over-drive. Some are closing, others vowing not to serve UTR. It remains to be seen how they identify UTR members. Don’t be white in DC this weekend?

Local media are having white supremacy crisis segments. How to survive white supremacy in DC, while at the same time spewing rounds of hot denunciations and well, hate.

This could get ugly. It may not be allowed to not get ugly. All the triggered have been busily triggering themselves.

Blogger Steve August 11, 2018 10:58 AM  

And he was this close to finally proving that Democrats are the real racists. :(

Blogger eyeslevel August 11, 2018 11:00 AM  

Whenever you affirm your enemy's weaponized terms, talking points or narratives, you empower your enemy. You need to discredit your enemies terms, talking points and narratives, never affirm them. That's how you take power.

Blogger tuberman August 11, 2018 11:04 AM  

30. Lurker

Incoherent Blackpilling, including using the 2013 CTH article, and just HOW does the end to the famous Capa chess game fit in here? You invert the meaning to it's opposite, pretty much like any Lefty/Globalist or an Alt-Retard...same thing.

Blogger eyeslevel August 11, 2018 11:06 AM  

There are two and ONLY two things a country can be based on: 1. a set of words (values, principles, propositions), or 2. a people. America was founded for a people, "ourselves and our posterity." A country based on a set of words cannot allow any serious questioning of those words. Therefore, it cannot have free speech.

You can't be for free speech and for diversity. Free speech and diversity are incompatible. The alt-lite is self-contradictory.

Blogger tuberman August 11, 2018 11:09 AM  

Gavin didn't even need to be bribed, he is such a Cuck. Jack likely got some of that 160 million set aside to bribe Alt-News, as he was a bit of a threat.

Blogger Peaceful Poster August 11, 2018 11:20 AM  

Posobiec is another slow learner..When will these people understand that we're in a war?

Jack is a good boy. We know he reads this blog (hi Jack!) and that he's worked with VD. He knows what's up.

He's just not quite brave enough yet to go all the way. But methinks he will in time.

Blogger Gen. Kong August 11, 2018 11:21 AM  

Proud Boys is civic-nationalist at best. Neither McInnes or the Proud Boys understand either the historical truth noted by VD or the fundamental nature of the left. They still refuse to grasp that their universalism and equalitarian ideology isn't going to save them from the Not-Whites and their anti-West technodhimmis. A few might be starting to sense a serious cognitive dissonance between their civic-nationalist religion and the hideous reality of a Sarah Jeong.

History proves that nationalism and Christianity combined can defeat the dyscivilizational tide. Conclusively. Anything and everything that falls short of those two things, or weakens those two things, or perverts or subverts those two things, is effectively anti-Western civilization and a potential liability.

That's the key - and really the last hurdle. Christianity has been thoroughly subverted from within. This creates a two-fold problem:

a) Post-Christian nationalists (rightly) see official Christianity as the enemy because every institution advertising itself as Christian from the Vatican down to the storefront pentecostal mountebank ultimately worships Satan, whether in the guise of Golden Dindu or Judeo-Christ. For 90% or more of what self-identifies as "Christianity", there is basically no "there" there. Just multiple variants of the Gospel of Galatians 3:28 or overt Satanism run by a witches' coven busy taking government payments to import an invading infidel army.

b) the conservatives and civic nationalists within the white-washed tomb referred to as Christianity insist on clinging bitterly to their equalitarian heresies instead of working to purge them with fire. They can't even bring themselves to follow Crazy-Christ Peterson's advice to "clean your room". Instead of cleaning their own room, the conservatives and civic-nationalists have instead taken sides with cucks and SJWs in purging nationalists.

Nationalists make an error in giving up entirely on Christianity. Like the conservatives and civic-nationalists they fail to understand that it is an essential element - woven into the civilization's very DNA. Instead of tossing it aside they need to seek out the remnant and join its ranks. They need to keep in mind that it only took 12 men the first time around. Surely there are more than 12 who've not yet bent their knee before the devil.

Blogger exfarmkid August 11, 2018 11:21 AM  

OK, just found the "Unite the Right" website (https://unitetherightrally.com/)

So. Going unarmed into territory covered by a hostile media, owned by a hostile establishment, in the vicinity of well-funded and violent provocateurs and not knowing if the police will protect them.

Genius.

I don't see President Trump saving any of their asses this time.

Blogger Crew August 11, 2018 11:31 AM  

And Trump seems to be energizing other countries that are moving rightward!

Or, perhaps, legitimizing!

Italy’s Catholics flock to the right

"Support for Matteo Salvini’s hard line on immigration has spiked among country’s churchgoers."

And they seem to be repudiation the Devil's Pope!

Blogger Gen. Kong August 11, 2018 11:32 AM  

The really clever thing for the UTR folks to do would be to not bother showing up. We know damned well that antifa, (((fake news))) and the badge-gang will be there in force wanting to crack some heads and get some good video of "Nazi-punching". If UTR stays home, they'll have to attack someone and it will be any unsuspecting YT who happens to be view, perhaps even one wearing a nice stars-and-stripes bowtie.

Blogger pyrrhus August 11, 2018 11:55 AM  

@21 There are a lot of liberals in our neighborhood. I'm very blunt with them these days, and point out that Heather Heyer and the other Antifa were trying, successfully, to deny Americans their Constitutional rights, so good riddance, and if they try it on me, they may not like what happens....These folks know I've practiced Con Law, so they don't have much to say, except they "don't want to talk about politics."

Blogger Lurker August 11, 2018 12:04 PM  

"You invert the meaning to it's opposite, pretty much like any Lefty/Globalist or an Alt-Retard...same thing."


Incoherent to you and thanks for proving my point. And since trying to fix stupid is recursive, have fun.

Blogger Mister Excitement August 11, 2018 12:11 PM  

Gavin mentioned Socialism twice in his statement.

Conservatives have a single-minded obsession with economic theory and ignore everything else.

Vox did a periscope about this many months ago, something like "Why Conservatives Ignore Culture."

Gavin: You weren't banned because of Muh Socialism.



Blogger tuberman August 11, 2018 12:50 PM  

Lurker wrote:"You invert the meaning to it's opposite, pretty much like any Lefty/Globalist or an Alt-Retard...same thing."

Incoherent to you and thanks for proving my point. And since trying to fix stupid is recursive, have fun.


To "prove your point" Sundance at CTH would have to believe the USA is screwed, as in short-term, today, but he is optimistic short-term. The checkmate from the Capa game would have to mean the USA getting checkmated, but it does not, it means the Cabal being checkmated by the White hats.

You invert facts to there opposite.

Come back in the early 2030's when the parasite hedge funds, and derivatives, along with demographics will likely really destroy the USA. Still ten tp fourteen years off.

Blogger Duke Norfolk August 11, 2018 1:03 PM  

Writing a check to some Heather Heyer fund is just giving money to Antifa. Simple as that.

Anybody who does that, or advocates that, is doing evil.

Blogger lowercaseb August 11, 2018 1:22 PM  

Gen. Kong wrote:The really clever thing for the UTR folks to do would be to not bother showing up.

Bingo! They did that in San Francisco last year...it wasn't an intentional tactic, but by releasing multiple meetup points throughout the day, they had Antifa and the MSN running around like chickens with their heads cut off...and cost the city a ton of dollars in OT pay to the Leos and paramedics to stand around.

Win/win in my books.

Blogger SirMaorio August 11, 2018 1:31 PM  

seems like antifa does something right at least, regarding their handling of moderates. meaning that you can't trust them. and it shows now with that as VD wrote

"you are much more likely to be attacked if you stand AGAINST the nationalist Right than if you stand FOR it."

just shows what he's been saying for a long time, nobody trusts the moderates and nobody likes the moderates...

Blogger tz August 11, 2018 2:09 PM  

One thing just struck me and it is fairly obvious.

From #NeverTrump to the Losertarians to the Civnats to the Cuckservatives to Disavow of poverty alt-lite:

They have "principles" but no vision, coherent or otherwise. They have no idea how to architect or build or populate a "Shining City on the Hill". At best they might quote a passage from Utopia or something More.

Trump had and has a vision. In this cynical age, it had to be as gaudy a one of his casinos. Yet it is as serious as a medieval Cathedral. His MAGA army sees it atop the hill and is fighting to take it. I can't say "no" principles, but the first is winning, and every other principle is oriented toward the Vision.

The Vision is not and cannot be merely ethnic - Whites were barbarians before Christ. And even the English common law built on the Greco-Roman version.

But it will move inexorably (slowly, or at bloodspeed) toward ethnonationalism sort of as Jesus Parable of the wedding feast. The Chosen are invited but are making excuses, so they won't get in, and those that do have to "dress appropriately" or be cast out.

If I can name the vision, the closest I can think of is "The Holy American Empire", even if it is just a section of North America with some diaspora in Eastern Europe and Russia (it is across from Alaska as Sarah Palin pointed out). All that is great from Western Civilization restored.

And there will be Crusaders. Unlike the libertarian anarcho-fantasies, or the "Just go back to the Declaration and Constitution and all will be fixed", we are after something practical that did exist so we know it can exist. Man, fallen and redeemable hasn't changed, and it isn't different this time.

The left has a Vision, but it is detached from reality at almost every level I can think of and has been demonstrated. Socialist economics. Censorship. Disarmed citizens with a militarized police. No differences between men and women, any races, gender fluidity, Nonfecund sex ... They are inmates in an asylum trying to impose their fantasies on reality and seem to think those who are rational are the thing standing in their way - athwart history yelling stop!.

No, we are the guards who have to put them somewhere they can't harm themselves or others.

Trump's vision is possible, and is real. And is as close to Utopia as is achievable in the 21st century.

Blogger tz August 11, 2018 2:19 PM  

There are multiple types of "moderates".
The first is split the difference, as in "liberal Republican" though they are less common today. The Republicans that implent socialism-lite.
The second are the principled cuckservatives that simply don't fight because it requires getting ugly and risking things including the very principles for a time to achieve them (Courage is a virtue, not a principle).
The third actually try to fight for muh principles (muh Constitution) but punch right more than left and usually spend more time disavowing and condemning allies than enemies. How many "Alex Jones is a creep, but..." condemnations of the deplatforming have you seen in the last week. They will preface EVERYTHING with how bad Inforwars and are more clear and explicit on their disavowal of Alex Jones than of him being censored and deplatformed. Some principles are more principled than others?

Blogger tz August 11, 2018 2:22 PM  

Flattery will get you somewhere.
Cuckery will get you a very short extention before you are executed.

Blogger Erasmus August 11, 2018 2:43 PM  

"The left has a Vision, but it is detached from reality at almost every level I can think of and has been demonstrated. Socialist economics. Censorship. Disarmed citizens with a militarized police. No differences between men and women, any races, gender fluidity, Nonfecund sex ... They are inmates in an asylum trying to impose their fantasies on reality and seem to think those who are rational are the thing standing in their way - athwart history yelling stop!.

No, we are the guards who have to put them somewhere they can't harm themselves or others."

@51

Freedom of Speech has become the Right to Lie. Lie about economics, about gender, about everything. We must silence the liars and speak the truth.

Blogger John Calla August 11, 2018 2:56 PM  

@41 So. Going unarmed into territory covered by a hostile media, owned by a hostile establishment, in the vicinity of well-funded and violent provocateurs and not knowing if the police will protect them.

Basically a carbon-copy of the first UTR rally. The one in Charlottesville was so obviously a setup, and the organizers had to be in on it (either that or sub-60 IQ, which is harder to believe). I have no sympathy for them. I just hope they don't drag down Trump like they did the first time around.

Blogger James Dixon August 11, 2018 3:06 PM  

> Bingo! They did that in San Francisco last year...it wasn't an intentional tactic,

How hard would it be to set up a fake group and schedule fake rallies at a dozen blue enclaves around the country and accomplish the same thing?

Another example of the same concept, someone has been trying to start a rumor that ICE will have people every polling place this coming election.

Blogger James Dixon August 11, 2018 3:08 PM  

> I just hope they don't drag down Trump like they did the first time around.

Trump doesn't tend to make the same mistake twice.

Blogger tuberman August 11, 2018 3:11 PM  

"Basically a carbon-copy of the first UTR rally. The one in Charlottesville was so obviously a setup, and the organizers had to be in on it (either that or sub-60 IQ, which is harder to believe). I have no sympathy for them. I just hope they don't drag down Trump like they did the first time around."

Yep, main organizer of this was at "Occupy" and is another Lefty doing his Alt-Retard act. This is the Globalist/Leftist's main play these days.

Blogger Matamoros August 11, 2018 3:22 PM  

On the usual suspects and demographic decline:

Former Vatican Bank chief: Authors of New World Order demographic collapse influencing the Vatican

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/former-vatican-bank-chief

Blogger Jackal August 11, 2018 3:31 PM  

You're believing the commie PsyOps bullshit...

What the Main Stream Media projects is one half commies.

Not 50 percent of America... FIFTEEN percent.

Just less bullets needed to rid humanity of them...

Blogger tz August 11, 2018 3:41 PM  

Of course this is beyond Cuckery, Linda Chavez is a donkey with a trunk - probably packed by here illegal alien maid

We would end more Immigration than Trump's most restrictive proposal if we simply required sponsorship (and penetrated the 501c corps of churches). So if Latrina drove and hit someone, she had better have had insurance. If she commit a crime, you, or the church's pastor goes to jail as an accessory. If they run up a million dollar medical bill, the church must pay, and if it is insufficent, the sponsorship board's individuals should.

There are a few elite and responsible people the free market (yes the libertarian argument) would spot and sponsor and be repaid hansomely. E.g. Milo. As long as the taxpayer or victims aren't on the hook for their bills.

It PRACTICALLY if not legally ends immigration.

Blogger InformationMerchant August 11, 2018 3:51 PM  

@46 Gavin is the worst when it comes to that. He brings up race and IQ in this video so he's not being cowardly, he's just being clueless when he ignores the 90% of culture that he's not interested in, then wonders why all the 20 year olds believe in the 48 genders they've heard, watched and listened to all their lives. Anyway, video: https://youtu.be/UQCZ9izaCa4?t=296 (5 seconds into this, you'll see why Vox Day isn't on his Alt Right list.)

You can see him address GamerGate here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTdgHsifK38 (Amazing ratio.)

I've also seen him mention GamerGate in another video that I can't find, it's a shame because he was dismissive there and seemed to indicate a preference for ceding ground without a fight, purely because he doesn't have an interest in it.

Blogger DonReynolds August 11, 2018 5:26 PM  

There seems to be a subtle admission here, from where I sit in the theater.

Both sides do not see this as an ideological conflict.

The Leftist Liberals (perhaps) know that their ideology will never stand up to close examination. So for them, there is no contest of ideology. Their enemy (from their own description) is the deplorable individuals on the Right, who might be discovered but never redeemed or rehabilitated. The Liberal Agenda will not penetrate the Right individuals, so they have the terminal disease of racism, nativism, and bigotry, and the contest will not be over until each one is destroyed. (Thus, we no longer hear anything about re-education camps for Right-wingers)

The Right seem to realize the contest is entirely ideological. If the Leftists can ever be brought to battle by argument or debate, they can be defeated....which is to say their nonsense egalitarianism can be discredited and put to the torch. The Right very much believes that individuals can change their mind and become former Leftists, so this is mostly missionary work for them.

This may explain why the Left refuses to have that argument/debate and why they completely endorse violence against the Right.

The Right wants to discuss it in public and there has been no violence against Leftists by the Right.

It is just a thought, but it might explain why the conflict never seems to come to a head because both sides are fighting a different war.

Blogger tz August 11, 2018 5:38 PM  

Worse, if you think you are going to be safe from all disavowals:
This Deputy found out that as a "Proud Boy" he is still being attacked and probably will have to resign
Trigger happy cops that shoot innocent people keep their jobs.
Not so those who "Like" Gavin McInnes.

Blogger Noah B The Savage Gardener August 11, 2018 5:59 PM  

"The really clever thing for the UTR folks to do would be to not bother showing up."

Yep. Then hang back in positions with good visibility and get lots of photos and videos of the black bloc.

Blogger Francis Parker Yockey August 11, 2018 6:01 PM  

Things have gotten totally nuts around here. In Virginia they have preemptively declared a state of emergency in Charlottesville, even though Unite The Right is going to be in DC

That's the problem. If antifa riots in C-ville, they'll have no putative ebil not-sees around to blame it on. How can they build a useful narrative around that? So they have to be ready to shut down the antifags.

@43
The really clever thing for the UTR folks to do would be to not bother showing up.

Exactly.

Blogger InformationMerchant August 11, 2018 6:49 PM  

https://twitter.com/OhForCongress/status/1027398708441374721
https://twitter.com/Raiklin/status/1028016479600562177

Never underestimate the stupidity of Conservatives.

Blogger Unknown August 11, 2018 8:48 PM  

Vox, I agree with your analysis and almost daily anecdotal links on this issue. I don't comment often, but I wanted to ask you about the continuing decay of the West in the context of Biblical history and prophecy. I believe it was JRR Tolkien who said that as Christians we're fighting "the long defeat."

Not, mind you, that we shouldn't, as men of the West and Christendom, fight. We should, despite the odds. But given the fact that--only in the short term--we will lose the earthly battle until Christ returns, what are your thoughts on the idea that maybe we ARE, in our lifetimes, seeing the long defeat begin to unfold?

Again, I need to stress that this isn't a fatalistic view, just thinking about it in terms of the horrors that are to come, and preparing to meet those horrors head on. If you see this, thanks in advance for your time.

Blogger VD August 11, 2018 8:51 PM  

what are your thoughts on the idea that maybe we ARE, in our lifetimes, seeing the long defeat begin to unfold?

Very, very low probability. Back in the 990s, people were absolutely certain they were going to see the end in THEIR lifetimes. They didn't.

Blogger Doug Walker August 11, 2018 8:53 PM  

Vox, I agree with your analysis and almost daily anecdotal links on this issue. I don't comment often, but I wanted to ask you about the continuing decay of the West in the context of Biblical history and prophecy. I believe it was JRR Tolkien who said that as Christians we're fighting "the long defeat."

Not, mind you, that we shouldn't, as men of the West and Christendom, fight. We should, despite the odds. But given the fact that--only in the short term--we will lose the earthly battle until Christ returns, what are your thoughts on the idea that maybe we ARE, in our lifetimes, seeing the long defeat begin to unfold?

Again, I need to stress that this isn't a fatalistic view, just thinking about it in terms of the horrors that are to come, and preparing to meet those horrors head on. If you see this, thanks in advance for your time.

(Sorry Vox, I was signed in to a work account, and realized it came up as "unknown" after I posted. Wanted to post again under my actual name so as not to be placed on the naughty list.)

Blogger Ominous Cowherd August 11, 2018 10:44 PM  

VD wrote:Back in the 990s, people were absolutely certain they were going to see the end in THEIR lifetimes. They didn't.

Every generation brings us closer to the end, but we won't see it except in hindsight. It wouldn't change what we should be about if we did know.

We may not see the end of time, but each of us is going to see the end of our time, and that should focus your mind on your relation with Jesus. I'm waiting to hear of the death of my last relative from my father's generation, and he's not saved. All of them believed in God, but none believed God. Don't let that be you.

I expect to get a call in the morning. Please pray for his salvation.

Blogger tz August 11, 2018 11:29 PM  

You won't see any end because it is a circle (or some kind of helix or spiral).
Read the Fourth Turning (which is abbreviated many places).
We are just entering into the "Crisis" phase, Kondratieff Winter, when things shatter and are replaced.
The earlier Crises were our Revolutionary War, The War of Northern Agression (with an economic crash just beore), the Great Depression and WW2.

Things will heat up and the iron culture will malleable, just make sure we are the ones with the hammer and anvil to shape the result.

Note that each time there was a great reset of debt by default. Right now the world has been zombifying the banks like Japan has for its two lost decades (their turnings were slightly out of phase). So the decay is on the periphery like Greece's bonds and Venezuela. The Gangrene will reach the core.

Blogger OneWingedShark August 11, 2018 11:31 PM  

Ominous Cowherd wrote:I expect to get a call in the morning. Please pray for his salvation.
Prayed.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd August 11, 2018 11:32 PM  

tz wrote:We are just entering into the "Crisis" phase, Kondratieff Winter, when things shatter and are replaced.

The sun is cooling slightly. There are decades of literal hard winters coming. That's going to make for much famine, and much shattering.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd August 11, 2018 11:33 PM  

OneWingedShark wrote:Prayed.

Thank you. My wife and I have been praying, and it's good to hear that you joined us.

Blogger tz August 11, 2018 11:45 PM  

Maybe they are really Koch-servatives. Like their Cato institute.

Blogger Brian Dean August 12, 2018 4:25 AM  

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Blogger Brian Dean August 12, 2018 4:26 AM  

"History proves that nationalism and Christianity combined can defeat the dyscivilizational tide. "

You live in Italy right Vox? Well, if you lived there in the late 1600s you had better give up your heretical protestant notions and become Catholic.

" All Protestant foreigners settled in Piedmont are ordered either to become Roman Catholics, or to quit the country within fifteen days."

It's not like Christians to fight a 30 years war amongst themselves, right?

Source:
https://m.egwwritings.org/en/book/915.396#412

Blogger Brian Dean August 12, 2018 4:32 AM  

Vox, also I will point out that China does a pretty good job of keeping the Muslims that live there in check. I'm sure you can think of many adjectives to describe China but I bet "Christian" wouldn't be one of them. Of course if you get out of line, you are sent to a re-education camp to be trained to obey the communist leaders for the good of the NATION. Being a nationalist, that should make you proud!

Blogger TheMaleRei August 12, 2018 5:36 AM  

Brian Dean wrote:Vox, also I will point out that China does a pretty good job of keeping the Muslims that live there in check. I'm sure you can think of many adjectives to describe China but I bet "Christian" wouldn't be one of them. Of course if you get out of line, you are sent to a re-education camp to be trained to obey the communist leaders for the good of the NATION. Being a nationalist, that should make you proud!

China is taking care of itself and China is remaining Chinese rather than becoming something else. Let the Chinese govern themselves.

You're too short for this ride. Go elsewhere.

Blogger VD August 12, 2018 6:39 AM  

Okay, you're done here, Brian Dean. You're definitely too stupid to be permitted to comment here.

Go away now.

Blogger OneWingedShark August 12, 2018 10:13 AM  

Ominous Cowherd wrote:OneWingedShark wrote:Prayed.

Thank you. My wife and I have been praying, and it's good to hear that you joined us.

You're welcome.

Blogger Dirk Manly August 12, 2018 11:22 AM  

@28

> No person knows how Heather Heyer died

The people who were performing CPR on her know. They ALSO know if they were already attending to her before the car came by.

Strange that not one of them has come forward -- that right there tells me that whatever information they know, public knowledge of it would interfere with the demonization of Fields. If it would HELP the demonization of Fields, then those Antifa scum would have been interviewed by MSNBC/CNN/PuffHo, etc.

That none of them has, speaks volumes. Whatever the truth is, those people with direct knowledge of Heather Heyer's last moments are hiding the truth.


> and no person knows why the dude gunned his car, and we won't know until the facts of the criminal trial are made known

The college professor who was chasing Field's vehicle with an AR-15 knows.

Blogger Dirk Manly August 12, 2018 11:27 AM  

@29

"Burn witches.

It's a policy statement. How complicated is this? Witch burners have been shunned, ostracized, lampooned, marginalized, discriminated against, deplatformed. Protect your witch burners and they'll protect you."

Recall from your nursery rhyme and fairy tale days....

What is the ONE tangible, concrete, objectively identifiable behavior that all witches have in common (even Baba Yaga, a well known witch in a nation whose origins are in the Scythians)?

EATING CHILDREN.

There's a reason Witches were ALWAYS burned at the stake.

There are other indicators (e.g. "casting spells")... but the one thing that every culture notes about witches is killing and eating children.

Blogger Dirk Manly August 12, 2018 11:40 AM  

@29

"Note to self: Don't enter residential premises constructed from high sugar content building materials."

You mean like wood? (cellulose)

[running and ducking]

Blogger Dirk Manly August 12, 2018 11:49 AM  

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Blogger Dirk Manly August 12, 2018 11:50 AM  

@35

"Whenever you affirm your enemy's weaponized terms, talking points or narratives, you empower your enemy. You need to discredit your enemies terms, talking points and narratives, never affirm them. That's how you take power."

This includes using the word "Capitalism" which Marx invented to equivocate having money to buy supplies and machinery _as if_ that means being a corrupt member of the aristocracy.

Blogger Dirk Manly August 12, 2018 11:56 AM  

@43

"The really clever thing for the UTR folks to do would be to not bother showing up. We know damned well that antifa, (((fake news))) and the badge-gang will be there in force wanting to crack some heads and get some good video of "Nazi-punching". If UTR stays home, they'll have to attack someone and it will be any unsuspecting YT who happens to be view, perhaps even one wearing a nice stars-and-stripes bowtie."

However

1) UTR is lead by leftists -- the purpose of the UTR rally is to set up anti-leftists to get pummelled.

2) Even if (1) were not true, UTR is not clever. Even if their leaders told them not to show up, they would still show up... and get trounced.

Blogger tz August 13, 2018 2:20 AM  

@78 what makes you think internecine wars between Christian sects are dyscivic?
@83 I'm waiting for the next Alt*Hero character to be James "Morphogenic", whose Fields can cause heart attacks, especially in obese women, at a distince even while in a vehicle.
@84 The Mideval warm period ended about the time we started burning witches, so to prevent/end global warming ...

Blogger Alan W. Mullenax August 13, 2018 7:49 AM  

One correction. It's Protestant Christianity as it was practiced at our founding.

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