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Saturday, August 04, 2018

Fake news, fake Right

The cucks are really, really desperate to keep the Littlest Chickenhawk viable:
I spend a few weeks every year teaching high-school and college students, and in my interactions with young people in and around universities I have noticed a trend. After class, at meals, and in walks around campus, the politically engaged students invariably ask me the same question: What do I think of Ben Shapiro?

Nor am I alone. Recently Eliza Gray had a similar experience while reporting on young conservatives in the age of President Trump. “Oddly enough,” she wrote in the Washington Post, “the person who appeared to be doing the most to shape the thinking of the new generation of Republican leaders was not the president of the United States—but Ben Shapiro, a 34-year-old anti-Trump conservative pundit who came up unprompted in more than a third of my conversations.” Again and again, students turn exchanges involving politics and ideology into discussions of Shapiro, his media presence, his ideas, and his mode of discourse.

As it turns out, I happen to think well of Shapiro, and admire not only his intelligence but also the way he is modeling political debate for an audience of millions. (We’ve corresponded once or twice but have never met.) More important, though, is what Shapiro’s celebrity tells us about the changing nature of media, the emerging sensibility of conservative youth, and indeed the future of American conservatism itself.

Shapiro owes a lot to social media. His appearances on Fox News Channel are not the cause but the consequence of his fame. It is by searching YouTube that teenagers come across his debates with campus lefties, his speeches, his appearances on like-minded podcasts, and his extended interviews with friends and other members of the so-called intellectual dark web.
The idea that Ben Shapiro is shaping ANYONE'S thinking, let alone the coming Republican leadership, is downright hilarious. The trend is clearly moving well away from his outdated open borders, free trade, Israel-first nonsense. Ben Shapiro may well be "the future of conservatism" because conservatism is dead. The cuckservatives fantasize about Generation Shapiro, but what they will get is Generation Zyklon.

As with the dog that didn't bark in the night, what is significant is the fact that they have literally no one else. All of the genuine intellectual energy is on the nationalist Right. Jordan Peterson is a propped-up fraud. Sam Harris is a recycled, propped-up midwit. Shapiro has been propped up and pushed on conservatives since he was in junior high despite this being the quality of his political analysis.


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85 Comments:

Blogger tuberman August 04, 2018 6:30 PM  

The Ride and the Lies never end... all fake.

Blogger Steve August 04, 2018 6:40 PM  

and other members of the so-called intellectual dark web.

How tone deaf do you have to be to think this appeals to anyone who isn't a dickless lockerdweller?

It also sounds like the kind of thing creepy middle aged guys with combovers and MySpace accounts who keep insisting that ebolaphilia is COMPLETELY DIFFERENT from paedophilia would belong to.

Blogger Retrenched August 04, 2018 6:40 PM  

Even back in my normiecon days, mid 2000s to early 2010s or so, I never thought too highly of Shapiro. I liked some of his columns, but he wasn't really saying anything that other, smarter commentators hadn't been saying for a long while.

Blogger Dire Badger August 04, 2018 6:47 PM  

A man can be judged by the quality of his preferred opponents.

Shapiro's preferred opponent is a wealthy, inbred, sexually-retarded college girl that just recently soaked up some idiot educator's regurgitated commie crap.

Blogger Xellos August 04, 2018 6:47 PM  

"stereotypical badger holding a hamburger" -- Benji

Blogger Garuna August 04, 2018 6:47 PM  

Trump has a god-level approval among right-wingers. NeverTrumpers are a tiny fringe. This has been shown repeatedly in polls. Even the cuckservative regions of America now vote for the Trumpists, as we saw in the recent primaries. We now also have some evidence in polls that the upcoming generation (particularly whites) are MUCH more pro-Trump than previous generations.

After all this, they still try to push the "Ben Shapiro is the future" meme. The dishonesty just beggars belief.

Blogger Dire Badger August 04, 2018 6:50 PM  

Trump's opponents are the Media manipulators of the entire world, 90% of the MONEY controllers in the world, every communist country and dictator in the world, and the entire intelligence community.

There is no comparison.

Blogger R.G. Camara August 04, 2018 6:50 PM  

People are thirsty for leadership and in-group protection. Shapiro is no leader, no matter how much he is propped up, and he certainly offers no in-group protection. Following him is following a very false prophet.

I'll be brutally honest: the New York Times hiring and defending Sarah Jeong has sent me to a new level of Alt-Rightness.

I am in New England. I am seeking fellow Alt-Righters here in New England to form associations with for protection and safety. I've looked at Proud Boys and Oath Keepers, but Vox has put down Oath Keepers in the past, and Gavin's Proud Boys are explicitly anti-Alt-Right and "anti-racist." So it seems they are out, unless I join simply to see if anyone there is a little more Alt-Right than the group.

Could anyone please offer a few groups to look at to join? I really feel a sense of panic setting it.

Blogger Damelon Brinn August 04, 2018 7:00 PM  

Ben is supposed to be a great debater. He should go up against some of those black debate teams that just scream rap lyrics and rant about race and stuff. He'd lose, and then he could write about what a respectable job he did.

Blogger Noah B The Savage Gardener August 04, 2018 7:10 PM  

@8 Get to know some of your neighbors. Find out who is based and can be depended upon, and work on being a good friend and resource for them.

Blogger Hammerli280 August 04, 2018 7:24 PM  

Shapiro is merely the latest in a long line of approved "conservatives" being palmed off on the public by the Propaganda Press. A fake, of course, being set up to displace the Real Right...which has fight.

Blogger DraveckysHumerus August 04, 2018 7:35 PM  

8. R.G. Camara

You'll find who and what you're looking for in regional prepper communities. Search online and through local resources, such as shooting ranges, then reach out and actively pursue groups for mutual vetting purposes. Much of rural New England takes a while to penetrate, the general population tends to remain pretty insular and the prepper groups will take their time evaluating you. But it's there for you eventually if you're active.

Blogger Chris McCullough August 04, 2018 7:37 PM  

Benji looks like he needs to lay off the bagels.

Blogger Mark Stoval August 04, 2018 7:37 PM  

@8

Of course, no one said this was going to be easy.

We have the media against us. We have the intelligentsia against us. We have the academics against us. We have most government workers and damn near all politicians against us. Almost every history book is a lie. I could go on ...

We have Satan and all his minions against us. And yet, western civilization arose once against all odds. It will rise yet again.

What to do? The strategy and tactics may be the most important thing; but perhaps just prayer and doing the best we can is what is called for.

God started talking to me decades ago about doing what I do now. I resisted and God insisted. He won of course, he always does. So, I try to save kids a few at a time from the evil that is leftism. May we all do whatever we can to save the kids from the satanic evil all around us.

Blogger VD August 04, 2018 7:45 PM  

We have the media against us. We have the intelligentsia against us. We have the academics against us. We have most government workers and damn near all politicians against us. Almost every history book is a lie. I could go on ...

So what? We have the truth and we have the Way, the Truth, and the Life. What more could we need?

Blogger Matt Sellitto August 04, 2018 7:57 PM  

Let's not forget that Little Ben predicted Trump would lose and the Republicans would lose the House and Senate because of him in 2016.

Blogger Sheila4g August 04, 2018 8:02 PM  

@8 R G Camara: "Could anyone please offer a few groups to look at to join? I really feel a sense of panic setting it."

Check out Identity Europa, as well as Patriot Front (bloodandsoil.org)

Blogger Mark Stoval August 04, 2018 8:02 PM  

"So what? We have the truth and we have the Way, the Truth, and the Life. What more could we need?"

I believe that was my point. The satanic world is against us and both prayer and God are on our side.

I think many of us need to be reminded that when all looks lost is exactly when we need to talk to our maker and do what he says do. It may look lost but it is not.

My part is small, but I do what the Lord tells me I should be doing. I am optimistic. I hope you did not think otherwise, for as you pointed out -- God is with us.

Blogger Lazarus August 04, 2018 8:08 PM  

He looks rather hapless in that photo.

Hapless Ben Shapiro.

Blogger Nathan August 04, 2018 8:31 PM  

Are you going to tell us what you really know about Shapiro from back in the WND days?

Blogger jijijeac August 04, 2018 8:40 PM  

shapiro was set up to be the next face of neocon media just like jeb bush was set up to be the next president of the usa. he got blasted out of the water by the Trump victory and now has to play second fiddle to the alt right group in the republican party. The reason he still has a bit of popularity s because he is kinda the only wellspoken and young dude who espuses pure neocon talking points and that attracts a lot of the old neocon audience. Also the left sees him as an usefull idiot and good trojan horse to take down the altright. He also kind of works for the "hei i'm right wing but im not a racist crowd. how can I be racist if im following a jew"

Blogger VD August 04, 2018 8:42 PM  

I already have, Nathan. He admitted that all he does is repeat Republican talking points and that he has no original thoughts or perspective. He's a total fraud and he always has been.

If you're looking for an admission that he had a secret underage affair with Hillary Clinton, you're out of luck. It's nothing more than the same thing I've been telling you all along.

Blogger Welsh Woodsman August 04, 2018 8:54 PM  

New England is tough. Mass, CT and RI are total basket cases and Vermont has been absolutely destroyed by leftist Jews and boomers from NY and NJ.
Maine is decent but geographically isolated. NH is pretty damn good.Because its predominately white - crime is low, business climate is favorable and taxes are. Its also centrally located. Naturally, the SJW's have focused like a laser on this and are trying to use corporate hiring practices to make the state more turd world like. Honestly the 2nd civil war can't come soon enough. There is nothing these disgusting locusts will not wreck.

Blogger Ariadne Umbrella August 04, 2018 9:02 PM  

Jeeves. I have gen zyklon kids. Ben Shapiro writes stupid essays posted on dorky websites. Not one teenager is rocking out to National Review.

The guys who went on youtube for videos- that would be Milo? Rogan? Broscience? Vox Day- the guys who gave their stuff away for free to poor, unemployed teenagers? The guys who were funny, and on point, and loved the young men and believed in them and their future? Those guys?

The guys who made Christian trad videos- the guys who make ifunny memes, the guys who meme at all!- that's who the young guys listen to!

It's sharp, it's debating, it's ideas, it's strength, it's virtue, it's courage, it's bravery, it's faith!

Honestly, that fashwave video where the young guy goes from isolated and afraid in his apartment, to alt-right, with a sunny house and friends and a demure wife? The young guys don't know that that's not what their future looks like. It's the one they expect. It's the one they are working towards.

Ben just needs to make aliyah. He's too short for this ride.

Blogger Ariadne Umbrella August 04, 2018 9:04 PM  

I don't talk politics with my kids, b/c they are kids. I want them to enjoy their childhood. The online alt-right, pro-Trump guys did the work. The kids aren't getting nagged by mom and dad into being boring. They are reaching for the exciting world of MAGA.

Blogger Welsh Woodsman August 04, 2018 9:07 PM  

@8
The reality is you can actually build trustworthy connections with many people who would not , on the face of it, seem like natural allies. The key is to find some area of interest and then use that to build a friendship. You will find most natives in northern New England are freedom loving, independent people who border on apolitical. They're more concerned about what is happening at the local level than any of the crap in Washington.
When things fall apart those you know who have vital skills and who proven themselves trustworthy and honest will be those who you will be aligning yourself with.

Blogger Unknown August 04, 2018 9:25 PM  

It is clear to me that most younger nationalists have moved well beyond Shapiro and in fact that Shapiro is just commonly brought up as a wedge they believe can be used to gauge the opinions of their peer group and mentors without seeming too far to the extreme right, where there is still much fear of association to contend with, though now waning. Many are just encountering Ben and are trying themselves to understand his true position, already being naturally suspicious of the not-so-covert Israel-first crowd, and are finding him to be, though not really up their ally, allied enough to important viewpoints that he can be used as a tool to their navigation of the social-political sphere. This however, with your affirmation, but primarily Ben's own arrogance and folly, having condemned Alex Jones and displayed his hypocrisy in regards to Rosanne vs James Gunn among other issues, is a phenomena quickly dissipating and I, like many others, are beginning to not only dismiss Shapiro, but to grow increasingly suspicious of him.

Blogger Unknown August 04, 2018 9:32 PM  

And now having read my previous comment again, I realized firstly that I spelled 'alley' incorrectly, but also that I mischaracterized Shapiro. It is not his arrogance that leads to his attacks on prominent alt-right figures, but rather his clear insecurity and need to fit in as well as his obvious bias in favor of the 'chosen people."

Blogger James Dixon August 04, 2018 9:34 PM  

> "...2018 looks like it's shaping up for disaster..."

"You keep using that word..."

"...intellectual dark web."

If the NYT supports you, it just might be time to rethink your positions.

> "...Ben Shapiro resembles no one so much as the young William F. Buckley Jr."

In their dreams, yes. In real life the controlled opposition role is no longer viable.

> The dishonesty just beggars belief.

When all you have is a hammer... The lie is all they've ever had.

> It may look lost but it is not.

And even if it is lost for us, there is a plan and our reward merely comes sooner. He will rebuild. We merely have to do what he asks.

> Honestly the 2nd civil war can't come soon enough.

I understand how you feel, but you seriously need to do some reading about round one if you believe that. War is not something you want if it can be avoided in any way. I don't think it can be avoided, unfortunately. The left has already shown they're willing to use violence to get their way.

Blogger ant becker August 04, 2018 9:46 PM  

It's a shame what has become of Milo.I liked his playful shit stirring and serious side.

Blogger Sterling Pilgrim August 04, 2018 9:46 PM  

I think ol' Spencer is trying to leach some thunder from you, vox.
Futile attempt if I ever saw one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfH0WSBjG3E

Blogger Jack Amok August 04, 2018 9:56 PM  

So what? We have the truth and we have the Way, the Truth, and the Life. What more could we need?

Helicopters and woodchippers?

Anyway, about Bendover Benji. Every time I look at a picture of him nowadays, I briefly think it's a picture of Camera Hogg. It takes me a moment to sort out that I'm looking at a different smug littleman being trotted out as a new lead for the latest propaganda boi-band.

Blogger Dire Badger August 04, 2018 10:02 PM  

Humans thrive on conflict.

One of the many reasons the Alt-right is inevitable. We will always be opposed by the would-be masters of the Universe.

Blogger AaMcavoy August 04, 2018 10:03 PM  

Ariadne Umbrella wrote:

Honestly, that fashwave video where the young guy goes from isolated and afraid in his apartment, to alt-right, with a sunny house and friends and a demure wife? The young guys don't know that that's not what their future looks like. It's the one they expect. It's the one they are working towards.


Do you remember the title? Or the channel?

Blogger John Calla August 04, 2018 10:14 PM  

Trump has been so good to Israel and yet Shapiro still won't like him until there are wars. There must be wars! Moar wars!

Blogger Azure Amaranthine August 04, 2018 10:36 PM  

"I understand how you feel, but you seriously need to do some reading about round one if you believe that. War is not something you want if it can be avoided in any way."

Machiavelli and the Romans both would tell you (the Romans with almost comical disbelief that you didn't understand it already) that necessary war is not something to be avoided. Avoidance of necessary war only weakens you. Especially in this circumstance. What we have to oppose now is (mostly) the equivalent of spoiled children. If they can be consequentially punished sharply and soon enough, they'll fold more easily (and much more permanently) than if given time to entrench and invest further in their positions.

Blogger Ryan G August 04, 2018 10:44 PM  

I was a Shapiro fan until he started inferring and suggesting that a war in Syria wouldn't be such a bad thing, even though the US stands to gain exactly nothing from it. It was then I realized Vox was right and that Shapiro's loyalties aren't to this country.

Blogger James Dixon August 04, 2018 10:48 PM  

> Machiavelli and the Romans both would tell you (the Romans with almost comical disbelief that you didn't understand it already) that necessary war is not something to be avoided.

This war isn't necessary. But it probably is inevitable. The two aren't quite the same thing.

Blogger tz August 04, 2018 11:04 PM  

Benjihad is acceptable to the Zampolit.
The CSJOs.

Blogger tz August 04, 2018 11:10 PM  

You ought to avoid war, if for no other reason than Augustine's et. al. Just war Theory.

If by "war" you mean crushing a trivially weak opponent, it isn't war, though the Afghanis seem to be rather hard to crush - 4GW as jello.

If by war you mean the health of the tyranny and military industrial complex at the expense of everything else, it is easier just to send swarms of agents to eat out less substance and not draft or enlist people to be killed.

If by war, you mean an extension of politics, politics usually don't kill and impoverish large populations.

If by war you mean a battle for what is holy, good, true, and moral when it is the ONLY means since everything else has failed and the chances are good and it won't cause worse horrors, go for it. The last one the USA did was before the USA existed.

War is hell. If you want hell on earth...

Blogger Dave August 04, 2018 11:27 PM  

http://boundingintocomics.com/2018/08/04/letterer-taylor-esposito-dropped-from-the-ferryman-after-personal-attack-against-jon-del-arroz/

The Ferryman, which just wrapped up its IndieGoGo fundraiser, has split ways with letterer Taylor Esposito after a personal attack against Jon Del Arroz was uncovered in the pages of Dynamite Comics’ Centipede #4.

The Ferryman writer Sean Campbell gave us a statement confirming Esposito would no longer be participating in future issues of The Ferryman #1.

“Taylor’s recent behavior is very disappointing and he does not act or speak on behalf of anyone who worked on The Ferryman. He was hired well over a year ago to letter the first issue, he was paid his fee, and he is credited in the book.

He was not involved in the crowdfunding campaign in any way and will not be invited to return for the second issue.”

Blogger CitizenOutkast August 04, 2018 11:46 PM  

Back when I came across VD at WND and started reading his columns, I also ended up seeing Little Bennie there. To me, it seemed (oops) that Farah was trying to promote him as this boy genius super conservative. I read a few columns of his, but while Vox was saying something original, Bennie just sounded like he was repeating what others said in front of him.

But, I've noticed that about conservatives: if they can raise someone up as special, they will. I don't mean this in a good way. It's like they have this desperate need for a hero, so anyone that looks like they'll fit the bill is promptly put on a pedestal. You get Bennie parroting something and conservatives fall all over themselves to celebrate a young person being on their side. You get an idiot like Jordan Peterson saying one or two things against some leftist beliefs and they joyfully raise him up. Didn't they also praise Kanye West for awhile? I tend to tune them out with this stuff. They're like love-struck teenage girls mooning over the new cute boy in class.

Blogger Wuzzums Fuzzums August 04, 2018 11:57 PM  

I have a very simple metric for judging whether a channel is blowing up or is dying down.

10% of the subscribers count is the base number of views a video should get. Anything above this indicates growth, anything below is stagnation. People rarely unsubscribe to a channel, usually they just ignore the content therefore the most viable indication for growth is the ratio between the average viewcount PER ONE VIDEO and sub count. The total video views per month is not a valid metric because if a person watches one video he will most likely watch the rest meaning that if there are 5 video uploads a day one person will translate to 5 views a day. Lots of channels pull this trick where they do some lengthy interview/show and then cut it up later into several videos and upload them on the same day.

So ignoring all the small videos and paying attention to only the lengthy vids of The Daily Wire YT channel, we can see Shapiro is at ~20% while, Klavan at ~10%, and the rest don't really matter because their sole purpose is to trick YT's analytics.

But here's the interesting thing. Ben Shapiro also has a separate channel which basically mirrors his Daily Wire uploads. Over at his channel his ratio is way below that of the Daily Wire one. It's not bad, it revolves around the 10% mark which is what you would expect from organic growth.

I don't know what to make of this, either his personal channel is the most valid metric of his online presence meaning The Daily Wire's channel is being artificially propped up. Or his Daily Wire views are the true metric meaning that if it were an organic growth we should see based on Ben's numbers a subscriber count of well above 1.5 million. Or maybe the other contributors are the true draw of the Daily Wire channel and Ben's viecount is leeching from them.

What I find most hilarious is Ben's relationship to Stephen Crowder. He started later than Ben and has blown past him long ago. His stats are through the roof. It's gotten to the point that Ben is blatantly trying to copy Crowder's business model. Ben is a relatively frequent guest on Crowder's show, not so much the other way around. So if there was indeed some media figure that's the fresh new face of conservatism it's Stephen Crowder by a mile. But of course only one of these two is a never-Trumper, and only one of these two attacks Trump on a regular basis.

Blogger Arthur Isaac August 05, 2018 12:10 AM  

"As it turns out" I like controlled opposition. Nothing like punching someone whose career is predicated on not fighting back (and making sure nobody else will either).

Blogger Ominous Cowherd August 05, 2018 12:16 AM  

James Dixon wrote:I understand how you feel, but you seriously need to do some reading about round one if you believe that. War is not something you want if it can be avoided in any way. I don't think it can be avoided, unfortunately.

If it can't be avoided, then we need make sure it happens on our schedule. Let's don't wait until the Left feels readier than they do now. This year might be optimal.

Blogger pyrrhus August 05, 2018 12:56 AM  

Shapiro is not just an inept non-combatant, he is an opponent...Jordan Peterson is merely confused...
As to the timing of a possible war, I think that will be driven by the commies successfully stealing an election, and attempting to crack down on the deplorables, at which point there will be a lot of choosing sides in the LEO community.

Blogger Lance E August 05, 2018 1:12 AM  

A "dark web" that is extremely easy to discover and very popular among mainstream pundits and the legacy media. Really gets the ole' noggin joggin'...

Blogger Resident Moron™ August 05, 2018 1:21 AM  

But .... but .... his MODE OF DISCOURSE!!!

What a plonker.

Blogger Troushers August 05, 2018 2:37 AM  

Shapiro is pushed VERY strongly through YouTube. If he is reaching that many young people, it's through algorithmic means, and targeted buys.

Blogger doctrev August 05, 2018 2:57 AM  

Vox, it seems that you're jealous of Ben Shapiro. Not just envious of how many people view him, every real American values popularity. No, you're jealous of his masculinity and raw alpha male power.

I mean, Eliza Gray, a -respected- freelance writer after graduating from Harvard and having her wedding announced in the New York Times, and Matthew Continetti assure us that Ben is the new teen heartthrob. His yuge Youtube audience is comparable to Steven Crowder, even comparable to Pewdiepie. White schoolgirls on the sexy and extremely confusing cusp of adolescence, American housewives and expatriates longing for excitement, even Ann Coulter all agree: only BEN SHAPIRO does it for them. He's like Jewmes Bond, a spy in the house of Western womanhood.

Blogger phunktor August 05, 2018 3:25 AM  

Even the gammastink is authentc; ZM!

Blogger phunktor August 05, 2018 3:36 AM  

(ACW II)that will be driven by the commies successfully stealing an election, and attempting to crack down on the deplorables, at which point there will be a lot of choosing sides in the LEO community".
bless their pensions!
summer 2019, following MAGA 2018, when th Politburo panics.Buy ammo now.

Blogger Resident Moron™ August 05, 2018 4:04 AM  

Every. Damn. Time.



Blogger Azure Amaranthine August 05, 2018 4:04 AM  

"This war isn't necessary. But it probably is inevitable. The two aren't quite the same thing."

Necessity is predicated upon the desirability of a goal.

Unless you consider the survival of you and/or your progeny to be unnecessary, inevitability follows inerrantly into necessity in this particular context. If it's inevitable, the only avoidance solution is surrender. If the war is inevitable and the surrender unacceptable, the war is necessary.

Blogger VD August 05, 2018 4:29 AM  

10% of the subscribers count is the base number of views a video should get. Anything above this indicates growth, anything below is stagnation.

Mine must be growing, since I'm at 81.8 percent....

Vox, it seems that you're jealous of Ben Shapiro.

Nice. You, my good sir, are a true Secret King!

Shapiro is not just an inept non-combatant, he is an opponent...Jordan Peterson is merely confused...

Just wait until the next Voxiversity is released. You will be disabused of your incorrect understanding of Peterson.

Blogger Brett baker August 05, 2018 6:15 AM  

When Bibi asked his fellow Jews to come home to Israel, he secretly meant the ones that would be useful in building the country.

Blogger Pierre Truc August 05, 2018 6:31 AM  

doctrev wrote:Vox, it seems that you're jealous of Ben Shapiro. Not just envious of how many people view him, every real American values popularity. No, you're jealous of his masculinity and raw alpha male power.

Is that MMA fight between VD and Benji up yet?

I hear Mr. Jones volunteered to put the chickenhawk into the cage...

Blogger wreckage August 05, 2018 7:41 AM  

I was following Andrew Klavan, because he does a pretty decent comedy schtick, until I started getting DAILY push notifications from him, not of new content of his own, but of Shapiro.

Now, I don't hate Shapiro. I don't like Shapiro. I have no interest in Shapiro. So, I unfollowed Klavan.

Point being, the squishy sort-of-Right media are pimping the blazing HELL out of lil Ben, via every possible channel. His success as at right now is being bought and paid for at substantial expense.

Blogger Orthodox August 05, 2018 7:42 AM  

2018 looks bad because many GOP cucks are running away from Trump on immigration.

Blogger James Dixon August 05, 2018 8:09 AM  

> If by war you mean a battle for what is holy, good, true, and moral when it is the ONLY means since everything else has failed and the chances are good and it won't cause worse horrors, go for it. The last one the USA did was before the USA existed. War is hell. If you want hell on earth...

Thank you for saying it better than I could.

> If it can't be avoided, then we need make sure it happens on our schedule.

If there's one thing you should have learned by recent events it's that the left always pushes things faster than they should. We don't have to worry about the schedule. They'll force matters soon enough, and well before they should by any rational metric.

Blogger Stilicho August 05, 2018 8:11 AM  

The trotskyite cuckservatives will complete their circular journey back to the explicit left and the only question is whether they try to keep a place open for whites in the benneton archipelago of the left or they try to carve out an anti-white position on the right (their current endeavor). I think they will move to the former as the failure of the latter becomes unavoidable (and cruise ticket sales continue to plummet).

Blogger James Dixon August 05, 2018 8:16 AM  

> Jordan Peterson is merely confused.

While it's possible that's true (I don't believe it, but it's within the realm of possibility), he's still being used as a tool by our opponents. An unwitting tools is still dangerous.

> Unless you consider the survival of you and/or your progeny to be unnecessary, inevitability follows inerrantly into necessity in this particular context

We'll simply have to agree to disagree on the necessity/inevitability issue Azure. We're going to get to the same point either way. We're not going to start the war, they are. It can be argued they already have.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd August 05, 2018 9:26 AM  

James Dixon wrote:the left always pushes things faster than they should. We don't have to worry about the schedule. They'll force matters soon enough, and well before they should by any rational metric.

The sooner the better, then. On a personal note, I want it to happen while I'm still young enough to be effective.

Blogger James Dixon August 05, 2018 9:33 AM  

> On a personal note, I want it to happen while I'm still young enough to be effective.

I'm well past that point, having turned 60 last month. I'm only good for a support role at this point.

Blogger Crew August 05, 2018 10:15 AM  

The talking heads on TV seem to all be making the same claim that Shapiro is. That is:

Trump may win 2020 but the Republicans are going to lose in 2018.

However, if you wanted the President's rallies over the last few days, you will see that he has enormous rapport with the crowds ... and the stadiums were full!

Blogger Lance E August 05, 2018 11:23 AM  

wreckage wrote:Point being, the squishy sort-of-Right media are pimping the blazing HELL out of lil Ben, via every possible channel. His success as at right now is being bought and paid for at substantial expense.

I can see why a person might think that, but let's not ignore the possibility that a great deal of the so-called right-wing media just isn't particularly sophisticated or committed to any specific cause. Most of them just want to profit off the non-coastal half of the country, and personalities like Ben are perfect for that role: telling conservatives what they want to hear, without stirring the pot enough to actually motivate them to action or shift the Overton window.

I doubt that he's paying for placement. He simply makes the correct noises to the right people, and does so consistently. His stock in trade is verbal, not monetary.

Same with his campus bans, which some people argue are staged. It's possible, but it's equally if not more likely that the SJWs are simply indiscriminate about who they target, and being a mealy-mouthed quisling won't save you from the outrage mob.

Blogger Crew August 05, 2018 11:23 AM  

@64: I am sure there are more roles you can play, but keeping the troops supplied with the necessary copper, lead and brass is an important role.

Blogger Cliff Mccrary August 05, 2018 11:51 AM  

I always knew Ben Shapiro was a shill. He flip flops on every opinion. So glad when I found your opinions on him, put words to my feelings haha

Blogger jandolin August 05, 2018 12:45 PM  

" politically engaged students invariably ask me the same question: What do I think of Ben Shapiro?"

The crucial million dollar question is whether the politically engaged students are members of the tribe.

Blogger dvdivx August 05, 2018 12:46 PM  

No one is talking about Ben Shapiro at all except to illustrate how pozzed the "conservative" press is. I did think he was older like William Buckley or George Will. His opinions seem far more older and out of date than his actual age.

Blogger Darwinite August 05, 2018 1:01 PM  

One thing Benji and pedoson have in common is their rapid-fire speaking method. It means you don’t have time to analyze their BS before the next wave hits.

Blogger Jack Amok August 05, 2018 1:23 PM  

...paying attention to only the lengthy vids of The Daily Wire YT channel, we can see Shapiro is a...

Shapiro has a face for radio and a voice for print. He has no real business with a YouTube channel in the first place.

Blogger Tars Tarkusz August 05, 2018 1:26 PM  

Sam Harris doesn't even pretend to be on the right. Harris is very open about being a "Cosmopolitan" leftist. I was listening to a recent Waking Up podcast and he described what he though a Cosmopolitan is and said he is one.
Harris has some right wing fans, but really only for his criticism of Islam. Once he starts talking about something else, it's standard leftist nonsense.
He is also one of these techno-utopianists who really buys into the idea that humanity will unite around liberalism, abandon their religion and create a one-world utopian society.

Blogger J Curtis August 05, 2018 2:20 PM  

2018 looks like it is shaping up for disaster


I've recently gotten back on Twitter and if I could be so bold, there's one guy running for US Senate that Trump could really use on his side. I'm talking about Rep. Lou Barletta of Pennsylvania. Sen Bob Casey is a do nothing, stuffed shirt who would never so much as lift a finger to stop the current invasion occurring on the US southern border whereas Barletta HAS taken steps to curb immigration and is solidly onboard with the GE on this very important issue.


Fact is the guy is getting clobbered on Twitter ( @louforsenate ) and could use some help over there if anyone has the time or inclination.

Blogger Ariadne Umbrella August 05, 2018 2:26 PM  

I can't find the video. I saw it bouncing around on Twitter a few months back. Frame Games retweeted it at least once. I showed my family. My husband liked it, except for the guy with the swastika tattoo on his chest. That guy was putting gays back in the closet, beating up Muslims and building a mosque with heavy construction equipment. The swastika wasn't a plot point.

I'm used to seeing pec swastikas on military guys in current year photos from somewhere not-Germany, but I'm not sure where the photos are taken. Guys with black balaclavas, marrying slim blonde girls in princess/ ballerina dresses.

The boys just thought " Well, yeah?" and other things that I can't quote precisely because it was so banal. That's what they expect of life. Their friends are MAGA, their friends are super-conservative.

The thing is: this school has Asian and Indian strivers. The parents push the kids into debate. White boys take debate for one semester, in the fall, to learn public speaking and debate, and then drop out. They want to learn, but they don't want to go to tournaments with the strivers. It's expensive- $500 for tournament fees.

The white boys in school are being very efficient about what classes they take in high school for free. It's somewhat parents, but it's also boys talking to each other. They take sports because they like each other a great deal. The boys who are not natural athletes strive to be a good member on the team, pushing themselves to build up.

They take classes on each others' advice. I didn't realize, for instance, that my son had taken AP classes specifically to cut down on his time in college.

Texas has a $10k bachelor's plan. It involves two years at community college, and then two years at a major university. A really surprising number of boys are taking this option. Top-rank, high SAT, white boys who aren't getting full-ride scholarships. My son had a $100K scholarship, which only paid for 40% at a private, competitive liberal arts college. He's going to do the community college, state university $10K, to not have debt. I thought it was odd, but then literally every one of his friends, and most of his acquaintances laid out the same plan.

All those rape cases made out of whole cloth made dorms toxic to smart young men. That got mentioned. Being in debt, and 'soy' also got mentioned. These are young men who are planning, quite deliberately, on their jobs, businesses, houses, family. It's very odd to hear 18 year old boys planning out becoming small business owners, planning out the classes they need to succeed, planning out marriage, children, suburban houses that they like. It's not delusional- the high-earning jobs ambitious plan out big houses, the more placid expect 3/2s on small plots.

Blogger OneWingedShark August 05, 2018 2:54 PM  

R.G. Camara wrote:People are thirsty for leadership and in-group protection.
This is absolutely true; in fact, I think a serious contender could be made from a staunch anti-corruption leader: the sort that really would, in the words of JFK, “break it [the CIA] into a thousand pieces and scatter to the wind”.

I've looked at Proud Boys and Oath Keepers, but Vox has put down Oath Keepers in the past […]
Oath Keepers sounds like a great idea, though the problem is that they won't keep their oath; they're too afraid of the media painting them as evil and the government retaliating, and for good reason: the government and media really are enemies of the Constitution and won't hesitate to discredit and destroy those who hold to the Constitution.

Mark Stoval wrote:@8 Of course, no one said this was going to be easy.

We have the media against us. We have the intelligentsia against us. We have the academics against us. We have most government workers and damn near all politicians against us. Almost every history book is a lie. I could go on ...

We have Satan and all his minions against us. And yet, western civilization arose once against all odds. It will rise yet again.

What to do? The strategy and tactics may be the most important thing; but perhaps just prayer and doing the best we can is what is called for.

Indeed so: we need to pray hard. We need to pray for leaders that do justly, and love mercy, and walk humbly with God. We need to pray that the corrupt in government, and in media (news, hollywood, etc) are brought to light and punished. We need to pray that God save our country: He is the only one who can, not Trump, though he may be using Trump.

VD wrote:We have the media against us. We have the intelligentsia against us. We have the academics against us. We have most government workers and damn near all politicians against us. Almost every history book is a lie. I could go on ...

So what? We have the truth and we have the Way, the Truth, and the Life. What more could we need?

Amen.

Azure Amaranthine wrote:"I understand how you feel, but you seriously need to do some reading about round one if you believe that. War is not something you want if it can be avoided in any way."

Machiavelli and the Romans both would tell you (the Romans with almost comical disbelief that you didn't understand it already) that necessary war is not something to be avoided. Avoidance of necessary war only weakens you. Especially in this circumstance. What we have to oppose now is (mostly) the equivalent of spoiled children. If they can be consequentially punished sharply and soon enough, they'll fold more easily (and much more permanently) than if given time to entrench and invest further in their positions.

Once war becomes necessary, avoiding war is avoiding reality.

Blogger Zeroh Tollrants August 05, 2018 4:10 PM  

But Vox, didn't you know Benji's wife is a doctor? If not, he will tell you this is the case, about every 20 min, and on every show/podcast he records. I think he thinks it makes him look like he's very proud of his wife's accomplishments. It doesn't. It makes him look like he's appealing to authority and class system.
Because we are all shocked about a well connected Jewess physician.
I don't know what exactly about this that makes me so uncomfortable, but there's something there.
We women may not be as bright as men, but we are darn intuitive.

Blogger Zeroh Tollrants August 05, 2018 4:12 PM  

UGHHH. Take some advice from a mother and grandmother of 8. You're dead wrong.

Blogger tz August 05, 2018 4:13 PM  

ZMan Wonders why (((Benji))) is defending another high-IQ nonwhite minority when she is clearly an anti-white racist, anti-cop, etc

The Littlest Cuckin'hawk needs to go back. Don't wait for Next Year in Jerusalem.

Blogger Zeroh Tollrants August 05, 2018 4:14 PM  

Never trust a Jew who converts to Christianity in their 60s.

Blogger Zeroh Tollrants August 05, 2018 4:17 PM  

The Oaf Queefers are Boomer Zionist shills. You need to run,not walk, in the presence of 3%ers or OK.
You very blog host can, and has, pointed out their duplicity.

Blogger tz August 05, 2018 4:22 PM  

Explaining the Benji reference

Benji is merely a token "white" conservative judaeo-christian male so Twitter, Facebook, YouTube can say "See! we aren't censoring them!".

Blogger Michael Maier August 05, 2018 7:04 PM  

ant becker wrote:It's a shame what has become of Milo.I liked his playful shit stirring and serious side.

What HAS become of him? I haven't seen anything about him for months, if not over a year now.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash August 06, 2018 2:51 AM  

Basically, Milo's literary agent, instead of signing him with Castalia House, decided to take him on a ride through Lawsuit Land, destination Bakruptia.

Blogger Dirk Manly August 10, 2018 6:50 AM  

@38

"> Machiavelli and the Romans both would tell you (the Romans with almost comical disbelief that you didn't understand it already) that necessary war is not something to be avoided.

This war isn't necessary. But it probably is inevitable. The two aren't quite the same thing."

Yes, it is necessary.

As seen in countless other countries, the left won't quit until either they kill you, or you kill them.

The smart strategy is kill them early and often.

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