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Monday, August 20, 2018

This is what victory looks like

Congratulations, Rabid Puppies! Thou hast conquered.
Last night's Hugo Awards ceremony featured a significant first: Nora Jemisin became the first novelist in science fiction history to win three consecutive Best Novel Hugos, once for each volume in her Broken Earth trilogy (the concluding volume, The Stone Sky, won last night's prize); in addition to the unprecedented honor, Jemisin had another first, with her acceptance speech, which may just be the best such speech in the field's history.

Other works and creators honored last night include:

Best novella: All Systems Red, by Martha Wells (Tor.com Publishing)

Best novelette: “The Secret Life of Bots,” by Suzanne Palmer (Clarkesworld, September 2017)

Best short story: “Welcome to your Authentic Indian Experience™,” by Rebecca Roanhorse (Apex, August 2017)

Best related work: No Time to Spare: Thinking About What Matters, by Ursula K. Le Guin (Houghton Mifflin Harcourt)

Best Graphic Story: Monstress, Volume 2: The Blood, written by Marjorie M. Liu, illustrated by Sana Takeda (Image Comics)

Best Editor – Short Form: Lynne M. Thomas & Michael Damian Thomas

Best Editor – Long Form: Sheila E. Gilbert
Let's consider the best speech in the science fiction field's history by the greatest science fiction writer of all time.
oh um okay so I I had started developing this whole superstition where I only went Awards if I don't show up and my friends are texting me so I can't read my speech stop okay all right so let me get to the speech this has been a hard year hasn't it a hard few years a hard century for some of us things have always been hard and I wrote the broken earth trilogy to speak to that struggle and what it takes to live let alone thrive in a world that seems determined to break you a world of people who constantly question your competence your relevance your very existence I get a lot of questions about where the themes of the broken earth trilogy come from I think it's pretty obvious that I'm drawing on the human history of structural oppression as well as my feelings about this moment in American history what may be less obvious though is how much of the story derives from my feelings about science fiction and fantasy then again science fiction and fantasy are microcosms of the wider world in no way rarified from the world's pettiness or prejudice but another thing that I tried to touch on with the broken earth trilogy is that life in a hard world is never just the struggle life is family blood and found life is those allies who prove themselves worthy by actions and not just talk life means celebrating every victory no matter how small so if I stand here before you beneath these lights I want you to remember that 2018 is also a good year this is a year in which records have been set a year in which even the most privileged blinder of us have been forced to acknowledge that the world is broken and needs fixing and that is a good thing stop texting me and that is because acknowledging the problem is the first step towards fixing it I looked at science fiction and fantasy as the aspirational Drive of the zeitgeist we creators are the engineers of possibility and as this genre finally however grudgingly acknowledges that the dreams of the marginalized matter and that all of us have a future so will go the world soon I hope fairies and yes there will be naysayers I know that I am here on this stage accepting this award for pretty much the same reason as every previous best novel winner because I work my ass off I have poured my pain onto paper when I could not afford therapy I have studied works of literature that range widely and dig deeply to learn when I could and refine my voice I have written a million words of crap and probably a million more of me and beyond that I have smiled and nodded while well-meaning magazine editors advised me to tone down my allegories and my anger I didn't I have gritted my teeth while an established professional writer went on a 10-minute tirade at me and basically as a proxy for all black people for mentioning under-representation in the sciences I've kept writing even though my first novel The Killing Moon was initially rejected on the assumption that only black people would ever possibly want to read the work of a black writer I have raised my voice to talkback over fellow panelists who tried to talk over me about my own damn life I have fought myself in the little voice inside me that constantly still whispers that I should just keep my head down and shut up and let the real writers talk but this is the year in which I get to smile at all of those naysayers every single mediocre insecure wannabe who fixes their mouth to suggest that I do not belong on this stage but people like me cannot possibly have earned such an honor and that when they win its meritocracy but when we win its identity politics I get to smile at this people and lift a massive shining rocket-shaped finger in their direction I'm understand so how many of you all saw like Panther okay probably my favorite part of it is actually Kendrick Lamar theme song all the stars the chorus of it is this maybe the night that my dreams might let me know all the stars are closer let 2018 be the year that the stars came closer for all of us the stars are ours thank you
Moving. Deeply moving. (wipes a solitary tear away) You lift that massive shining rocket-shaped finger to the sky, you inspiring token for the savagely untalented! No one can ever take away those unprecedented three consecutive Best Novel Awards from you, although they're desperately going to want to do so once they realize just how completely they have destroyed the credibility of their own awards.

You see, my dear SF-SJWs, this is what a smoking hole looks like.


A legitimate award-winning science fiction writer, Robert Silverberg, begins to grok.
I have not read the Jemison books.  Perhaps they are wonderful works of science fiction deserving of Hugos every year from now on. But in her graceless and vulgar acceptance speech last night, she insisted that she had not won because of 'identity politics,' and proceeded to disprove her own point by rehearsing the grievances of her people and describing her latest Hugo as a middle finger aimed at all those who had created those grievances.
But that's what the Hugo Award is now. And that is all it is. Which is exactly what I told the Rabid Puppies would happen. Our actions could never have sufficed, but their reactions did.

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158 Comments:

Blogger Tyr August 20, 2018 6:33 PM  

I am sure that Jemisin’s speech was the best in the Hugo Awards’ history and won’t be topped until her speech at next year’s Hugo Awards.

Blogger kudzu bob August 20, 2018 6:36 PM  

When I was a kid, I got my hands on several volumes of THE HUGO WINNERS, edited by Isaac Asimov. They contained stories by writers like Poul Anderson, Robert Bloch, Gordon Dickson, Jack Vance, Robert Silverberg, and so on. At the time, I thought I couldn't go wrong reading something that had won a Hugo.

My God...

Blogger Tyr August 20, 2018 6:36 PM  

All but one of the winners above are women- the only exception being the guy who shared an award with his wife.

Blogger Unknown August 20, 2018 6:41 PM  

Her twitter picture is a cat, how fitting! Hahaha

Blogger Nostromo August 20, 2018 6:43 PM  

Oh, I don't think we've neared maximum freakiness in the Hugo's. I'm waiting for the trans-pedo-muslim-poc win before proclaiming that.

Blogger tuberman August 20, 2018 6:44 PM  

You cannot...just cannot, satirize this! The Incredible Lack of Anything, is staggering.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother August 20, 2018 6:46 PM  

My nine year old son has given more cogent oratory than this half savage.

Blogger tz August 20, 2018 6:46 PM  

Moving. My Bowels.

Blogger Nate73 August 20, 2018 6:50 PM  

Please be real please be real please be real...

Blogger Kyle Searle August 20, 2018 6:55 PM  

Comrades, first person to stop clapping after acceptance speech gets bullet to back of head.

Blogger tuberman August 20, 2018 6:57 PM  

Was hilarious though. Thanks for the laugh.

Blogger #7139 August 20, 2018 6:57 PM  

It warms my heart that the Supreme Dark Lord was able to generate a solitary tear. Will wonders never cease.

Blogger Salt August 20, 2018 7:00 PM  

Well well, the Rabid Puppies hit the '16-'17-'18 Trifecta. Happy days!

Blogger MichaelJMaier August 20, 2018 7:01 PM  

The Half-Savage warms my evil heart.

Blogger weka August 20, 2018 7:03 PM  

@#7139.
It was a year of joy.

Blogger weka August 20, 2018 7:04 PM  

And a tear of joy. From the dark Lord

Blogger Dangeresque August 20, 2018 7:07 PM  

>Accepts affirmative action award.
>"There are some that will say this isn't a result of meritocracy."

Blogger Nathan August 20, 2018 7:09 PM  

Wow... I. I have to confess I was skeptical. But this, this is a thing of beauty. Not only are the Hugos dead- it's over- they'll never recover, but it will be YEARS of slow-dawning embarrassment for everyone involved.

Blogger Silent Draco August 20, 2018 7:12 PM  

Amazing - this was not whipped out as a Mel Brooks parody. At least that had good direction and acting. Somehow, some(thing) made "Blazing Spaceballs" or "Space Saddles" into history. Hmmm, better finish the related work for next year. Not for an entry, but as a chronicle:

" ... And as the guttural string of syllables ended, a faint response echoed. It was as if a demonic pack of spectral hounds bayed at the waning moon over a dank and fearfully concealed crypt, summoning their Dread Master for a an awful sport. Their cry trailed eerily along the walls, bringing a sudden sepulchral chill and faint necrotic limning to the festivities: "Ia! Ia! Pup'iz fthagn! Shu'ris rkk^th'yo Tenebro!" "

-- from "The Doom That Came to Worldcon" (a work in progress)

Blogger Salt August 20, 2018 7:12 PM  

I have poured my pain onto paper when I could not afford therapy

Save up them pennies.

Blogger JonM August 20, 2018 7:14 PM  

Nice. The Hugo voters have set themselves a real challenge for next year, but I have faith that they will really buckle down and work hard to find a way to make WorldCon77 even more ridiculous than this.

Blogger Fenton Wood August 20, 2018 7:14 PM  

Listen to the audience. It's all women.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lFybhRxoVM

Women won EVERY category except for Fanzine and Dramatic Short Form. The Hugos officially have cooties.

Blogger Randomatos August 20, 2018 7:15 PM  

And people wonder why the publishers are dying? This is darkly amusing, but also kinda sad. They should have Jerry Springer handing out the awards.

Blogger Uncle John's Band August 20, 2018 7:15 PM  

Well played, indeed.

The comics industry ought to take note. But then they wouldn't be the comics industry.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash August 20, 2018 7:16 PM  

Congratulations to Mike Glyer, for winning Best Safespace, I mean Fanzine, I mean Passive- Aggressive Echo Chamber, for the 99th time in a row.

Blogger David The Good August 20, 2018 7:17 PM  

Parody truly is dead. So glad to have been a part of creating this moment in Hugo history.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother August 20, 2018 7:24 PM  

What could we possibly parody from this speech? Hence parody est mort.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan August 20, 2018 7:26 PM  

Has anyone read any of that award winning stuff?

Blogger Crew August 20, 2018 7:29 PM  

@29: I tried reading the first of Jemison's crap, but couldn't force my self to do it.

I think it should be labelled "Award Whining Books."

Blogger VFM #7634 August 20, 2018 7:31 PM  

...that was the actual transcript of her acceptance speech?...

Blogger tweell August 20, 2018 7:35 PM  

Bwhahahaha! I am indeed entertained, Dark Lord!

Blogger Nathan August 20, 2018 7:38 PM  

"The Hugo voters have set themselves a real challenge for next year, but I have faith that they will really buckle down and work hard to find a way to make WorldCon77 even more ridiculous than this."

I'm just waiting to see what the next WorldCon controversy that gives Tor charge of the convention programming might be.

Blogger Edgar Abbey August 20, 2018 7:38 PM  

I have read all 3 of the Broken Earth novels, and I will say that this last one is what finally broke me. And by broke me, I mean broke me of a habit. I read a good number of novels, probably 25 to 30 a year. Science fiction and fantasy make up a majority of the books I read. I work and have a family and spend time on other activities too, which means I don't really have time to figure out what books are worth reading. So I tend to pick books that are either (1) on a bestseller list, (2) on someone's recommended books list, (3) on a "best of" list, or (4) have won an award. I have often read the Hugo and Nebula winners. In recent years, I have grown increasingly disappointed in the poor quality of these novels. But the Broken Earth series is the one that was the final straw. The first book was mediocre, but the concept was interesting, so I kept going. The second book was possibly the most boring book I've ever read. The third one was abyssmal. After this, I will never again read a book on the basis that it has won an award. The crap that is being honored these days is pathetic. If you pick up a fantasy novel from the 60s or 70s that was average for its time, you'll find it stands head and shoulders above the state of fantasy today, at least the stuff that is touted as upper tier.

Blogger Gen. Kong August 20, 2018 7:39 PM  

That's a most impressive Water-Buffalo word-salad. She wuz queenz, obviously.

Blogger Pierre August 20, 2018 7:40 PM  

Meanwhile, the Guardian:

Jemisin’s third win in as many years signals an end to the influence of the rightwing ‘Puppies’ groups, with female authors winning all major categories at sci-fi awards

I think I'm gonna pop a cold beer.

Blogger Gen. Kong August 20, 2018 7:42 PM  

Mr.MantraMan wrote:

Has anyone read any of that award winning stuff?

Don't have to. As long as you're not the first to stop applauding, you'll be OK for a while.

Blogger kudzu bob August 20, 2018 7:47 PM  

Anyone have a link to Silverberg's comment? Thanks.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan August 20, 2018 7:53 PM  

Poor Scalzi

Blogger L'Aristokrato August 20, 2018 7:54 PM  

Didn't the Oscars invent some new category, just so it could give 'Black Panther' an award?

Blogger Worlds Edge August 20, 2018 7:59 PM  

Must admit, I liked the Chalion books by Bujold. Kind of silly with a bit more time spent on romantic relationships than I personally would have have preferred. The sort of book where if no one told you the author was a woman you'd figure that out yourself inside of ten pages. Still, overall a solid magic system, cosmology, good characters, etc.

Hugo worthy by historic standards? Eh, probably not. But definitely written by someone competent who told an immersive story. Still, of everything offered it would gotten my vote. (I'm afraid the Stormlight Archives -- nominated -- are a bit too overwritten for my taste. Had not read and in several cases would not read any of the others. Seanan McGuire is as overrated as she is obese. And that's saying something.)

Blogger VD August 20, 2018 7:59 PM  

...that was the actual transcript of her acceptance speech?

(nods)

Blogger Starboard August 20, 2018 8:00 PM  

I would love, love, love a stylized version of that explosion as the victory of the puppies Hugo shirt.

Blogger Doktor Jeep August 20, 2018 8:00 PM  

Heh.

Blogger Wraithburn August 20, 2018 8:11 PM  

As a fun little bit of additional information, Jemisin wrote up this blog post talking about the characters from one of her novels. Turns out there's some pedo pushing going on.

"I’m using the word “seduction” deliberately, note. I also tried hard in the first book to hint at the sexual undercurrent of Yeine and Sieh’s relationship. Yeah, that’s squicky — or it would be, if Sieh was really a child. But he’s not. Their relationship is incredibly unequal, but not in the way that it appears to be — it’s Yeine who’s the child, relatively speaking, and Sieh who’s the dirty old man."

http://nkjemisin.com/2011/10/character-study-sieh/

Blogger MortemTyrannus August 20, 2018 8:14 PM  

Who gave a lunatic an award and let her vomit all over the microphone?

Blogger pyrrhus August 20, 2018 8:19 PM  

Unwitting self satire is always the best...

Blogger pyrrhus August 20, 2018 8:19 PM  

Funny how this post followed the one about South Africa...Does the ANC have literary awards?

Blogger Jeff August 20, 2018 8:21 PM  

oh my

Blogger NautOfEarth August 20, 2018 8:22 PM  

Black women exemplify the term useful idiots.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother August 20, 2018 8:24 PM  

So in other words, Sieh the child came on to Walter...I mean Yiene...

Blogger eclecticme August 20, 2018 8:25 PM  

@36. Pierre Truc August 20, 2018 7:40 PM
Meanwhile, the Guardian:

Jemisin’s third win in as many years signals an end to the influence of the rightwing ‘Puppies’ groups, with female authors winning all major categories at sci-fi awards.

I would guess that is the kiss of death news for any real science fiction readers. if i had never heard of the change in the Hugos and I read only this Guardian piece I would never pick up her books.

Blogger Michael Kingswood August 20, 2018 8:40 PM  

When I saw a Tweet about the awards I knew you'd have something fun to say about it, Vox. The Darkstream did not disappoint.

I've never read anything by Jemisin until tonight. Out of curiosity and from a desire to be honest, I went into the "Look Inside" for the first of this trilogy on Amazon. Wow. Not sure how else to describe it.

I've read (insert old-school Hugo winner here).

That ain't no (insert old-school Hugo winner here).

Blogger Roy August 20, 2018 8:41 PM  

I am what would be considered a KU Whale, meaning I read over 300 books a year, 99.9% from Kindle Unlimited.

I read part of a book a couple of weeks ago, a fantasy, until I suddenly realized what was happening. I stopped reading and left a review.

"If you like books about child slavery, pedophilia and explicit homosexual pedophilia then this is the book for you"

Amazon accepted my review.

I looked the other day and the book, and my review have disappeared from the KU universe.

I guess somebody is actually paying attention.

Yay me...heh

Blogger Servant August 20, 2018 8:47 PM  

I long ago started just avoiding books written by women. Anne McCaffrey was the last I read purposefully. I was twelve and there were dragons. Karen Miller suckered me w with a pen name ke mills. Now I avoid initials. Most of what's written is shit these days but it seems like doubly shit if a woman wrote it. This has to drive people like I used to be away. I can't be the only one who came up with this heuristic.

Blogger The Observer August 20, 2018 8:50 PM  

Anne McCaffrey was the last I read purposefully.

Anne started getting rotten really fast when she started inserting her son into her Pern novels.

Blogger Roy August 20, 2018 8:50 PM  

@54 Exactly. That is a big problem for me because I read so many books. I avoid any book that has a female author and initials make me wary enough to check out the author if they are not familiar to me.

I wish KU had a sorting option to remove all female authors from searches.

Yeah...good luck with that.

Blogger dienw August 20, 2018 8:52 PM  

I haven't read writing that bad since I graded state high school writing proficiency papers in the mid-eighties: I couldn't even force myself to read it through all the way.

Blogger tuberman August 20, 2018 8:52 PM  

When someone talks in run-on sentences, with no paragraphs or punctuation, and obviously, they know better, THEY THINK THEY ARE GOD, and with a capital G. Their narcissism has reached insanity, and they have gone over the edge. Their Magical Thinking has gotten over the top.

I've seen this before, twice, and both of those had to take meds soon after...for psychosis. Of course, with the Left, this will be considered normal.

Blogger SciVo August 20, 2018 8:52 PM  

Feminism: still and always a pathetic cargo cult of masculinity. They have the unworthy goal of acting out their slanderous lies about men, and can't even be competent in their banal evil.

Blogger Desdichado August 20, 2018 9:00 PM  

The best part is that they're still in denial that they've lost. They think that they chased all of the bad puppy people away and that they've won, and that now the Hugos will be glorious from here to eternity.

The second best part is that destroying the Hugos wasn't even hard. The had really already done the work; all that the Rabids did was demonstrate for the sleepier what had already happened by goading them into an even more exaggerated pose than what they were already making.

Blogger Starboard August 20, 2018 9:07 PM  

Servant wrote:I long ago started just avoiding books written by women. Anne McCaffrey was the last I read purposefully. I was twelve and there were dragons. Karen Miller suckered me w with a pen name ke mills. Now I avoid initials. Most of what's written is shit these days but it seems like doubly shit if a woman wrote it. This has to drive people like I used to be away. I can't be the only one who came up with this heuristic.

With very few exceptions, the only women authors I read now have been dead at least seventy years.

Blogger Pierre August 20, 2018 9:11 PM  

French Reviews for Broken Earth

Translation: "What kind of carpet did the Hugo judges smoke to award the price to this piece of unbearable boredom?"

I attempted to read it (in French) and I would agree with this dude.

Blogger InformationMerchant August 20, 2018 9:15 PM  

"I want you to remember that 2018 is also a good year this is a year in which records have been set a year in which even the most privileged blinder of us have been forced to acknowledge that the world is broken and needs fixing and that is a good thing stop texting me and that is because acknowledging the problem is the first step towards fixing it"

I'm not sure whether I'm more surprised that this was a prepared speech or that the text messages weren't anticipated.

Isn't there an airplane mode on modern phones that'd have solved her problem when she first noticed it? I haven't bought a phone this decade, so I'm not 100% sure.

Blogger weka August 20, 2018 9:20 PM  

The only person who could write run on sentences for forty pages was James Joyce. She ain't no Joyce.

Blogger Skyler the Weird August 20, 2018 9:21 PM  

@40 MaGuire does the old Trayvon Martin in putting a picture of herself as a thin teenager in her publicity photo.

Blogger Brett baker August 20, 2018 9:22 PM  

Baen isn't doing to bad.

Blogger Jack Amok August 20, 2018 9:25 PM  

So much winning, and the fools don't even realize it. They think giving Jemisin three awards in a row is great! They don't even realize how obvious the message is to the rest of the world: either the awards are completely pozzed SJW fests, or the genre is total crap with such poor content they can't find more than one author worth an award.

BTW, in other grrlpowered winning, the EA exec who attacked critics of the a-historical cyborg chicks in Baattlefield 5 and said don't buy the game if you don't like it... he's out the door and preorders for the game suck.



Blogger Brett baker August 20, 2018 9:26 PM  

Baen isn't doing to bad.

Blogger beerme August 20, 2018 9:43 PM  

Servant wrote:I long ago started just avoiding books written by women. Anne McCaffrey was the last I read purposefully. I was twelve and there were dragons. Karen Miller suckered me w with a pen name ke mills. Now I avoid initials. Most of what's written is shit these days but it seems like doubly shit if a woman wrote it. This has to drive people like I used to be away. I can't be the only one who came up with this heuristic.

No women, no initials unless I can click on the author page and find out the author's sex immediately due to the picture. I think the last novel I read by a female author was something by Bujold and it was probably past time to give up on her at that point.

Blogger grendel August 20, 2018 9:46 PM  

This is better than I ever hoped for. Skol puppies!

Blogger Troy Lee Messer August 20, 2018 9:48 PM  

Pardon my ignorance, but was getting this wookie a third Hugo the intended outcome? Like giving the employee of the month to someone who is clinically retarded?

Blogger Geir Balderson August 20, 2018 9:50 PM  

#38 'Poor Scalzi'

Yep! He will never win an award again unless he does the transgender slice and dice or pens something with his buff daughter.

I envision him, kneeling on his amazing lawn, ripping his white tee as he screams to the sky, " Jemisin!!!!!!!"

Blogger exfarmkid August 20, 2018 9:57 PM  

World Con continues to provide high quality entertainment. Damn, VD, is there anything they did that you didn't predict?

Blogger Daniele Grech Pereira August 20, 2018 9:58 PM  

*morphs into weather-beaten Chinese man*
"It's all so tiresome."

Blogger Mr.MantraMan August 20, 2018 10:05 PM  

It is useless to resist 6 of 5.

Blogger exfarmkid August 20, 2018 10:06 PM  

Went back and read the Jemison ... speech.

Wow.

I'm sure her sunny disposition and live-and-let-live attitude will bring her and those around her great happiness!

Blogger SamuraiJack August 20, 2018 10:08 PM  

I thought I knew how to read. After reading that transcript of wokeness, I am not so sure anymore.

Blogger Daniel August 20, 2018 10:09 PM  

Best Movie: Simple Jack

Blogger Daniel August 20, 2018 10:10 PM  

This is an outrage and an insult to the erotic memory of Chuck Tingle.

Blogger Sean August 20, 2018 10:20 PM  

You blinded me with that wall of text

Blogger My Comment August 20, 2018 10:26 PM  

These awards go hand in hand with Netflix announcing it has removed 10 years of customers' comments and will no longer allow comments. It has already replaced the 5 star rating with simple up or down.

Quite a dependable system:
1. Increasingly produce SJW crap not wanted by audience.

2. Sales decline because consumers don't like it

3. Ban consumer comments

4. Have SJW in the media laud the crap

5. Consumers start tuning out reviews

6. Give the SJW what is now viewed as a meaningless award

7. A dwindling number of people care about the award followed by the award being a signal to avoid the winner

8. Condemn consumers for being stupid bigots and alternate them further

9. Saner people realize this is a business opportunity

Blogger Doug Cranmer August 20, 2018 10:28 PM  

To see real long term strategy play out in the real world.

Very educational.

Blogger maniacprovost August 20, 2018 10:47 PM  

Robert Silverberg is still alive?

Blogger Matt Robison August 20, 2018 10:57 PM  

It is a bit sad. I read Jemisons Hundred Thousand Kingdoms and thought it was ok. Didn't like it enough to read the sequel. Suffered from the "female protagonist loves to be dominated by alpha male" syndrome, too overtly sexual.

But there was an interview with her in the back of the book, and she came across as likable and funny, someone who didn't take herself too seriously. Someone I could have a beer with.

What happened to turn her into this harpy? Wow?

Blogger Lazarus August 20, 2018 11:01 PM  

Desdichado wrote:The best part is that they're still in denial that they've lost. They think that they chased all of the bad puppy people away and that they've won, and that now the Hugos will be glorious from here to eternity.

The second best part is that destroying the Hugos wasn't even hard. The had really already done the work; all that the Rabids did was demonstrate for the sleepier what had already happened by goading them into an even more exaggerated pose than what they were already making.


Not gaslighting, but highlighting?

Blogger Norse Fan August 20, 2018 11:11 PM  

It's a beautiful thing.

Blogger Jail Cussox August 20, 2018 11:11 PM  

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Blogger S. Thermite August 20, 2018 11:24 PM  

A half-savage sci-fi author whose culture couldn’t keep indoor plumbing functioning if their livee depended on it, engages in extreme verbal diarrhea. Film at 11.

Still not tired of winning.

Blogger Jack Amok August 20, 2018 11:25 PM  

But there was an interview with her in the back of the book, and she came across as likable and funny, someone who didn't take herself too seriously. Someone I could have a beer with.

What happened to turn her into this harpy?


Odds are, she got dumped.

Blogger Mahorka August 20, 2018 11:25 PM  

Hopefully herfirst screen appearance will be a penance version of A Game of Thrones racist Mhysa scene: a bunch of white people carrying Jemisin on their hands and yelling: "Aunt! Aunt!"

Blogger Snidely Whiplash August 21, 2018 12:00 AM  

Matt Robison wrote:But there was an interview with her in the back of the book, and she came across as likable and funny, someone who didn't take herself too seriously. Someone I could have a beer with.

What happened to turn her into this harpy? Wow?

The interview was probably rewritten by a man. A White man.

Blogger Brick Hardslab August 21, 2018 12:08 AM  

So now we're just carpet bombing the rubble at this point? Nice, they'd rather burn down their awards than change.

Good for them. Consistency matters.

Blogger Troushers August 21, 2018 1:00 AM  

Sorry to hear Jemsin(Black woman) got rejected once, that never happens to any white writers. Stay strong, Jemsin(Black woman).

I'm worried at the lack of minority trans female representation in the Hugo awards nominees and winners, I think it demonstrates unconscious bias and racism.

Blogger lynnjynh9315 August 21, 2018 1:09 AM  

My own research into the subject of socialists and sexual degeneracy proves interesting:
https://infogalactic.com/info/Wilhelm_Reich
https://infogalactic.com/info/Die_Sexualit%C3%A4t_im_Kulturkampf

Interestingly, Reich was active in Austria during Hitler's rise. I suspect some sick shit was happening during the Weimar Era.... How much of this sickness did we import via Paperclip??

Blogger Were-Puppy August 21, 2018 1:12 AM  

I give that Hugo speech 5/5 Wakandas

Blogger pyrrhus August 21, 2018 1:24 AM  

@65 No women, no initials unless I can click on the author page and find out the author's sex immediately due to the picture.

Absolutely, my method as well..Usually initials mean it's a woman, and not readable...The last female novelists worth reading were writing in the 40s, including Josephine Tey.

Blogger MrNiceguy August 21, 2018 1:39 AM  

It's rumored the tears of the Supreme Dark Lord can cure cancer... Or was it that they give SJWs cancer. Eh, either way.

Blogger MrNiceguy August 21, 2018 1:42 AM  

Coherence is a social construct.

Blogger Tyr August 21, 2018 2:05 AM  

You know how Scalzi always does the pathetic “ZFG” routine? He should look to Silverberg as an example of someone who exemplifies true “ZFG.” The SJW harpies and Oppression Bores may screech like hell and attempt to shit all over his career, but he told the truth.

Blogger nswhorse August 21, 2018 2:08 AM  

I tried to read it all. I really did.

Blogger dh August 21, 2018 2:51 AM  

Whats pathetic is that the "Most Important" award is the Hugo, and basically, the Hugo comes with so little sway in the marketplace that three-time best novel award winning novelists like this most recent triple-winner still can't really support herself with her writing, full-time. Even with a nascent TV deal with TNT, she's not able to support herself from her work.

This just blows my mind.

Blogger JC August 21, 2018 2:53 AM  

Yeah, I couldn't get very far into that paragraph? either. I tried to watch the speech to but had to turn it off after twenty seconds.

I was looking forward to your comment on this, Vox. And I just want to take this opportunity to congratulate you and the other Rabbid Puppies. It takes true skill to goad someone into burning down their own house in the belief that it will cause you pain. Napoleon had to expend considerable manpower to get the Russians to burn down Moscow (if they really did). But you have done so much with so little effort and expense and it was fun the whole time.

I really enjoyed being part of this and I have you all to think for the frequent belly laughs during the nomination period and especially during the awards. That Worldcon membership was worth every single cent. I've been to more expensive rock concerts that were far less entertaining. And now I'm going to be getting it for free at least for a few more years. And despite all evidence to the contrary, they think we're angry about this.

Additionally, I've been introduced to so much great sci-fi/fantasy (past and present) than I had ever previously known. So much that I can't see myself ever getting close to reading it all.

Blogger dh August 21, 2018 2:57 AM  

I assumed that this transcription was a little ungenerous with it's lack of formatting and paragraphs and sentence structure. It's not ungenerous. It's pretty accurate.

Blogger Dark Herald August 21, 2018 2:57 AM  

@Vox

Speaking of the Dragons, (which I realize no one was). Are you going to be posting your ballot for this years awards?

Blogger Constantin August 21, 2018 3:02 AM  

Aaaaaaaaaaaaand incoming posts from cuckservatives or shitlibs about how Vox Day is just as racist as N.K Jeminsin and that your comments and hers are interchangeable in 3...2...1...

Blogger Constantin August 21, 2018 3:05 AM  

Her speech was hilarious, btw. I endorse her getting a Hugo every year just so I can have the "pleasure" to hear that very literate and emotional "speech".

Blogger Paul M August 21, 2018 3:45 AM  

The boring thing about women's writing is that the only thing they write about is fucking.

Blogger Crunchy Cachalot August 21, 2018 3:46 AM  

In the near future in the Guardian, a mewling article wondering "Why when women finally earn their place in a male space, it turns into a ghetto?".

Blogger Tanjil Bren August 21, 2018 3:59 AM  

"...They're desperately going to want to do so once they realize just how completely they have destroyed the credibility of their own awards."
Do you think they're going to care? (Those, at least, who know full well what they've done.)
Is it really about the award, as far as they're concerned?

Blogger Tanjil Bren August 21, 2018 4:04 AM  

"...Three-time best novel award winning novelists like this most recent triple-winner still can't really support herself with her writing, full-time."
And so the market speaks louder than a contest rigged by unhinged leftists...
Who'd have predicted it?
(It's little wonder they like shoving people into re-education camps with such shiny-eyed alacrity.)

Blogger Gregory the Tall August 21, 2018 4:54 AM  

The question is if there are enough inmates of the asylum with the feeling that they will share a bit of the fame when one of them gets famous and with enough money to buy what their fellow inmates write. Note that I do not mention "the ability to read a book" among the prerequisites for buying this kind of "text".

Blogger Crunchy Cachalot August 21, 2018 5:07 AM  

@107- That'd almost be an improvement, because my experience is all they ever write about is themselves, and they're even worse about it in non-fiction.

Blogger Tanjil Bren August 21, 2018 5:09 AM  

"...And with enough money to buy what their fellow inmates write."
And there's the rub.
They push and posture and preen but they don't buy.

Blogger Attila is my bro August 21, 2018 5:13 AM  

Exploitation. LOL

Blogger JACIII August 21, 2018 5:47 AM  

That little rocket is a cargo cult award. What a bunch of freaks.

Blogger Balkan Yankee August 21, 2018 5:59 AM  

The safe space known as Worldcon schedules more bad luck.

Blogger Avalanche August 21, 2018 7:32 AM  

@100 "I tried to read it all. I really did."

Oh dear. I'm so sorry. When do they let you out of the sanitarium? Hang in there, you'll recover!

Blogger MB August 21, 2018 7:51 AM  

"it’s Yeine who’s the child, relatively speaking, and Sieh who’s the dirty old man"
That's a convenient theory. Wonder how it works in reality. Do her acquaintances make children "remember their past lives" or whatever, in order to make them wise beyond their years, hence older than the age of consent. Isn't this sort of like the main character's defense in "Lolita".
No idea about her background or the novel referenced here, but it definitely rings some alarm bells.

Blogger Wade Renn August 21, 2018 7:52 AM  

Perfect illustration of a narcissist accepting an unearned award three (!) years running: A gleeful F-you and a throw-away 'thank you'

Blogger Mr.MantraMan August 21, 2018 8:01 AM  

Another women of color dumped or ignored by a white man.

The world needs Bladerunner type synthetic humans, and make them white and make them affordable for people like about every leftist anti-white loser so they to can have love and affection from whites.

Blogger StrongCoffee61 August 21, 2018 8:16 AM  

The SJW crippled star Hugo has completely collapsed into a Black hoe.

Blogger pdwalker August 21, 2018 8:50 AM  

Try reading it out loud.

Blogger Duh-ave August 21, 2018 8:51 AM  

Hopefully Jemisin will win every year from now on. Would SJWs take steps to prevent that from happening?

Blogger VFM Bear August 21, 2018 9:39 AM  

And if anyone was still unclear on the term dyscivic, now you know.

Blogger James Dixon August 21, 2018 9:44 AM  

> I work and have a family and spend time on other activities too, which means I don't really have time to figure out what books are worth reading.

Seriously? Follow the link to Castalia House on the top right. You can also check out Baen Books. You'll have more good SF to read than you'll have time to read them.

> The last female novelists worth reading were writing in the 40s

Oh, there are exceptions. There probably aren't more than a dozen in SF though.

Blogger VFM Bear August 21, 2018 9:45 AM  

Servant wrote:I long ago started just avoiding books written by women.

Same here.

Although what irks me even more these days is the insertion of "daddy's little princess" into books by supposedly conservative, redpill, milsf etc. male authors. A platoon of marines may have gotten wiped out by the zombies, heck even the entire Corps, but daddy's 16 year-old princess is crawling out of the pile of zombie corpses she personally massacred covered only in their blood. You've just lost me as a reader/buyer of that series.

Conservative men pandering to their daughters ruins their books as it has their politics.

Blogger Dirk Manly August 21, 2018 10:19 AM  

So, this all begets the most important question of the evening:

WHO was the first to stop clapping?

Blogger Dirk Manly August 21, 2018 10:21 AM  

@3

"All but one of the winners above are women- the only exception being the guy who shared an award with his wife."

That's how we know it's dead.

Blogger Jason H August 21, 2018 10:22 AM  

Taste is subjective and anyone can dislike any book for pretty much any reason, but I always know when "puppies" haven't read Jemisin, because the Broken Earth trilogy is one of the most creative, interesting and enjoyable things to come out of the genre in a decade at least. In fact, I bounced off the first book because of the second person voice, but once I understood what she was doing, I’m glad I gave it another shot because it’s really very good.

Vox, I like your political writing, and I've only read Throne of Bones, so I can't speak to your other genre writing, but Each of the Broken Earth books is several standard deviations better in almost every measure. They are definitely worth your time.

Also, that Silverberg quote seems suspect.

Blogger Dirk Manly August 21, 2018 10:23 AM  

That acceptance speech.

Never in the history of man has someone said so many words to so many people to communicate so few ideas. (I'm Black. This isn't about identity politics. Let me tell you about how "people like me"(TM) have been oppressed or something."

Blogger Matthew August 21, 2018 10:30 AM  

Jason H wrote:
How do you do, fellow kids?

Blogger VD August 21, 2018 10:42 AM  

Vox, I like your political writing, and I've only read Throne of Bones, so I can't speak to your other genre writing, but Each of the Broken Earth books is several standard deviations better in almost every measure. They are definitely worth your time.

That's utter bullshit. Jemisin isn't even mediocre. Even as a token, she's bad.

Also, that Silverberg quote seems suspect.

Lying gamma confirmed. It isn't. There are plenty more quotes from actual old school SF writers where that came from.

Blogger Rick67 August 21, 2018 10:55 AM  

I started following the controversy surrounding SFWA and Hugo Awards a few years ago. And I tried to see things from the point of the SFWA/Hugo gatekeepers. Maybe us paler skinned folks just don't appreciate writers like Jemisin. I tried reading one of her books. It wasn't very good. Never finished it. I don't think her writing was bad so much as not very interesting or engaging. I bring this up b/c some comments at boingboing (which shows its true ideological colors) say "Rapid Puppies don't know what they're talking about, they need to read Jemisin's books". I did. I hate it when people say "you don't like it because you haven't tried it" and I have, we're not ignorant, what they're selling is simply not good.

Blogger KasaObake August 21, 2018 10:59 AM  

"There are plenty more quotes from actual old school SF writers where that came from."

And where did it come from, or can't you cite your source because it's made up?

Blogger Jason H August 21, 2018 11:11 AM  

Vox, not sure how far you got through the first book, but I'll assume you didn't read the full trilogy. Like I said, the second person voice was off putting in the beginning, until it wasn't. But you had to read the whole first book to get it.

Blogger VD August 21, 2018 11:24 AM  

And where did it come from, or can't you cite your source because it's made up?

You're obviously very stupid if you think you're going to play that game with me. I will never cite a source on demand.

Now, go ahead, make your accusation, moron. Go for it. Or shut up and slink out of here like a little bitch.

Blogger Dark Herald August 21, 2018 11:25 AM  

If Jemisin had any brains at all she would have bowed out this year. The only thing she has going for herself until last night is membership in a very exclusive club. Being mentioned in the same breath as Bujold gives her a nice halo effect. But winning three in row makes her unique.

It puts her work in the spotlight. Jemisin has to be able to stand on her own as one of the true giants in the field. More influential than Heinlein, more creative than Niven, more layered than Card, more poetic than Zelazny.

And there is no question about it all. N.K. Jemisin is none of these things.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash August 21, 2018 11:37 AM  

Jason H wrote:the Broken Earth trilogy is one of the most creative, interesting and enjoyable things to come out of the genre in a decade at least. In fact, I bounced off the first book because of the second person voice, but once I understood what she was doing, I’m glad I gave it another shot because it’s really very good.


Translation:
"I couldn't get through it on the first try, but then I literally FORCED myself to finish this awful turd, and then the two sequels. My Fannish cred is intact. Now I can make believe it's good and everything is fine, and now my friends won't throw me out of the club."

Blogger Snidely Whiplash August 21, 2018 11:38 AM  

Tell us Jason, now do you love Big Brother?

Blogger Balam August 21, 2018 11:50 AM  

When I see your name, "Jason H", I am reminded of the time Star Wars suffered a ton of fake reviews on Rotten Tomatoes and all the accounts were either named after presidents or went down a telephone list of names (Andrew A, Billy B, etc) with the same format as your name. A simple first name followed by a single letter which makes it easy to churn out many such accounts because you just follow the format.

I say that your account is the very same thing, a shill account. While I don't think you work for Disney I'm sure you have mimicked their style of shilling.

Blogger Jason H August 21, 2018 12:03 PM  

Good point, "Uindo"

Blogger eclecticme August 21, 2018 12:19 PM  

OT but has EA been converged? Battlefield V pre sales tank.
https://www.dailywire.com/news/34764/did-feminists-kill-franchise-battlefield-v-emily-zanotti?
BTW if such OT posts are out of place here let me know. After reading the two SJW books this is the only forum I am aware of where such posts might be of interest.

Blogger MAethelflaed August 21, 2018 12:34 PM  

That "speech" certainly supports my hypothesis that this person has never written a book (or anything longer than a Tweet) in her life. I've long suspected that the "N.K. Jemisin" books are either ghost-written (or so heavily edited that they might as well be) by an editorial staff member - someone who is at least capable of writing a coherent English sentence, if lacking the talent to tell a compelling story.

Of course, telling a compelling story is entirely irrelevant to winning a Hugo, as far as I can tell. The key things for a publisher seem to be (a) ensuring that the book expresses the correct political sentiments, and (b) recruiting a suitably diverse "face" to appear as the author on social media and at award ceremonies. The book itself can be boring, pointless dross (which, from what I hear, it is), as everyone has to pretend it's wonderful or risk being reviled as a racist, Nazi, etc. Quite a clever racket, really, except that it will destroy traditional publishing long-term...

Blogger Pseudotsuga August 21, 2018 12:50 PM  

That was an interesting "speech." It clearly demonstrates that punctuation is a product of white male privilege and thus does not play a part in revolutionary modern writing... or something...
If that was the text of the original "acceptance screed"....err, I mean speech, as written and printed by Jemisin, it's painful that it pretends at actual meaning rather than merely referring to "correct" ideas. . It reminds me a lot of the video of the aware-winning "debate" team of two young black girls, huffing and puffing as they spouted out codewords.
If that was a transcript of her speech, who was the dingdong who decided to transcribe it as a stream of disconsciousness (not stream of conscious or even unconsious)?

Stupid (or deliberately "woke") typesetting aside, this is another hard nail in the half-savage Hugo coffin.

Blogger English Tom August 21, 2018 12:59 PM  

@Snidely Whiplash

Tell us Jason, now do you love big brother?

And what does 2+2= Jason?

Blogger Kallmunz August 21, 2018 1:08 PM  

I wonder if Scalzi and the other white male SJWs understand that their day is over. If they had any hopes of winning a Hugo in the future they can give that up now.

Blogger Balkan Yankee August 21, 2018 1:22 PM  

@146: Scalzi tripled down. Said he was happy to come in "second" to Jemisin. Such is the life of a male feminista these days.

Blogger Sterling Pilgrim August 21, 2018 2:09 PM  

They see a white space and they want to paint it black.

Blogger Blaidd August 21, 2018 2:17 PM  

Jason H wrote:because the Broken Earth trilogy is one of the most creative, interesting and enjoyable things to come out of the genre in a decade at least.

Until just now I had never read any of her writing. I read the look inside for book 1. Or, rather, I read about half a page. It starts with an info dump that's trying to pass itself off as world building. It's written in present tense, which I admit I have a heavy bias against in fiction. It always comes off as trying to force the reader into the story rather than drawing them in. That said, I've read fanfiction that have done it in a more engaging way than Jemisin. What made me stop reading instantly was these two sentences in standalone parenthesis:

"(But much of history is unwritten. Remember this.)"

If you have to tell your readers what they should remember within your prose, you have failed as a writer. And then I scrolled down to see that she demonstrates for a second time, less than a page later, that she doesn't understand how to use parentheses.

To claim that this hackjob writing is not just better but "several standard deviations better" than A Throne of Bones indicates either dishonesty or a severe mental deficiency.

Blogger Were-Puppy August 21, 2018 4:16 PM  

Weakest concern trolls ever.

Really, I had to drink the entire turd filled punch bowl, and then it got better !

Blogger Unknown August 21, 2018 8:28 PM  

Heh, Vox...they just COULD NOT figure out that they were giving you PRECISELY what you wanted there back when they handed out the Assterisks a few years ago.

Idiots. X-D


As for her stuff being "creative" and "best"...maybe...but after that lurching, shambling horror of an acceptance speech there, I am currently begging to differ with the people _CLAIMING_ this twaddle.

Blogger MichaelJMaier August 21, 2018 9:29 PM  

SNIFF-SNIFF... I'm so proud to have helped. Does anyone have a tissue? It's dusty in here...

Blogger Expendable Faceless Minion August 22, 2018 6:01 AM  

David, you are an effing good author. I will buy all of your Broccoli spy novels. The excerpt I read kept me in stiches.

Blogger Expendable Faceless Minion August 22, 2018 6:14 AM  

We all have a finite maximum lifespan. I swear no more of mine will be wasted reading any more words by her.

Blogger GithYankee August 22, 2018 6:27 AM  

It's even better live, when she is texting during the speech. Wow. Also, to the men who only read male writers, the book collectible market 100% supports your idea. No women writers are as collectible as male writers, and there is even a divide between left & right, and Jews and whites.
The long term value is in straight, white, right wing male writers. The problem now is so few of us can get published outside of print on demand.

Blogger Basta Con La Droga August 22, 2018 6:48 AM  

I don't know if anyone will bother to read this comment. But anyway, I've been banned from the FB group "grimdark fiction readers & writers". Why? I basically stated that I did not like N.K. Jemisin's books and didn't find her to be a particularly pleasant person. When asked why by one of the admins, I just told him that I didn't like the fact that she called both Australia and Italy "racist countries" for ridiculous reasons. Another member of the group told me that was "ridiculous", at which I replied that her being afraid of travelling to Australia because of her skin colour was utter non-sense. And boom, banned. So there, so much for liberal acceptance of different views.

Blogger GB August 22, 2018 11:23 AM  

The only conclusion from this is that Jemisin is a barely-literate fraud. Her editor must be one hell of a self-hating white/jewish person.

Blogger MegaBusterShepard August 23, 2018 7:53 PM  

Harlan Ellison was right. Also congratulations on burning the awards down, you'll be living rent free in their heads for years.

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