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Saturday, August 11, 2018

Tripcode compromised

We are under HEAVY attack.
AB(C) took control
Tripcode compromised

Neon Revolt pointed out what looks like a Clown operation taking advantage of the tripcode:
An Appeal to Patriots

I’m scared for my country, and I am especially scared for you good people who look to this space for guidance.  I have seen how my folks are suffering.  No one has money.   Half of my family is suffering from issues relating to drug abuse.  Honest work is getting hard to find for the ill-connected.  I see the accomplishments of my parents and grandparents and wonder how so many of my generation are barely holding on, fighting hard to stay in the middle class.

Ways of life that have existed for a century are vanishing, often because of decisions made via algorithms whose inner workings cannot be comprehended by any single living human being.  The world is shifting away under our feet, largely due to inscrutable forces with no historical parallel.   Change is everywhere and can be sourced to nowhere.  Sneering elites in government and the media look down on us and assure us that this is all our fault.  It is difficult to know who to trust.

In times like these, we reach out for any comfort we can find.  We want to help, we want to put our meager power together with others and fix it all. There are people out there in the world who will take advantage of this powerful need.  Politicians, business leaders, religions…and others.

I firmly believe that all of you love the United States of America, and revere the work of our Founding Fathers, mighty men who led the world in skill and learning.  Men like Jefferson and Madison, Washington and Hamilton.  Men who revered reason and the exploration of natural law.  Over and over again in their writings, they expound the world view of the Enlightenment, among whose core values is that there is a singular, true natural order established by our Creator, and that all things must obey that law, and that this natural law is fundamentally knowable by human kind.  That from that order flows the equality of men, and the rights to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

On this basis our Fathers forged our great nation.  They did not always agree on what should be built upon that firm foundation, but through conflict and struggle with one another they built the great compromise that is embodied by our Constitution, whose fruit has been unparalleled freedom.

It is my belief that anyone who betrays those founding values by asking us to suspend trust in well-constructed arguments and the knowable is betraying the foundation of our law, our history, and our civilization.  I believe that exhortations to abandon friends and family in favor of numerology and cryptic messages are the products of charlatans, not patriots.

It is my belief that Q is a charlatan.

It is my belief that Q is a young, untrained American man who is playing games with your faith, your hope, and your love of country, mostly because he finds it amusing.  I believe he may call you to violence, not to save our home, but merely for entertainment.

There are many arguments for this, but I will name a few that Q has been gleefully rubbing our noses in since the beginning.

Firstly, his name itself.  “Q”, after the Department of Energy’s Q clearance.  I have had the opportunity to work in our country’s national labs, and have worked with some of those clever, hard-working folks that hold Q clearance.  A Q clearance grants access to carefully compartmentalized nuclear weapons information.  One who holds a Q clearance is a scientist, engineer, or manager who is deemed trustworthy by classifying authorities.  Q clearance holders are people who employ our nation’s most dangerous technical secrets to manufacture and maintain weaponry than can end the world in a flash of baleful fire.

They are not experts in spycraft and combat operations.

If, for some curious reason, our President put a Q clearance individual in charge of such an operation, it is not believable that anyone would issue commands and share national security information with strangers via a cobbled-together web site of uncertain security…particularly if said website’s claim to fame was a loud public argument about about video games.

If that catastrophic chain of events were to take place somehow, this nuclear/black ops guru would not stoop so low as to secure this essential line of communication with a DES/crypt(3) based tripcode hash, with the excuse that it is necessary in order to maintain portability between 4chan-style image boards.  This is not a concern of a serious man.  Plus, DES has been considered extremely insecure for a quarter-century and can be cracked in hours on commodity hardware, as has been demonstrated here.  That presumptive hero would, under no circumstances, embed an insult and a lie into that very cryptographic signature (see technical discussion that follows for details).

The person who would do that is not a patriot, not an operator, and not a hero.  This person is a vain child.

It is hard as hell for me to admit when I’ve been fooled. I have been in that place.  It is humiliating. I beg you not to turn away from this message, and to absorb the short-term suffering that recognition and repentance entails.  I don’t think that you will find it impossible, because you are tough.  If you have trusted Q, you have lived a hard existence these last months.  The world is hard enough as it is without shouldering the responsibility of fighting a hyper-competent, irredeemably evil enemy on your own.  It is a terribly isolating thing.

To escape and survive, you’ve likely made friends with others who believe, and you’ve endured this difficult world-view together.  Embrace that friendship and camaraderie, because it is a rare thing in our lonely age!  Take that energy, together, and go out and use it as our Founders intended.  Register each other to vote, canvas, run for office, persuade your fellows, read everything, and trust only that which is worth your heart, your effort, your blood and treasure.  Most of all, do not be discouraged for long, because your country still needs you.  Our foes are merely human, and can be overcome by you and me and others with true faith and sincere human effort.

Technical discussion:
I am not a infosec expert, so please feel view this analysis with a skeptical eye, and as always, do your own research!
Q verifies his identity via a cryptographic signature, or “tripcodes.”  These tripcode hashes (e.g. CbboFOtcZs ) are based on the DES/crypt(3) encryption algorithm.  DES (Digital Encryption Standard) was standardized in 1977 and has been largely deprecated due to widely-known weaknesses.  A good primer on these weaknesses from way back in 1997 can be found here: http://personal.stevens.edu/~khockenb/crypt3.html .   Tripcodes are created via the algorithm described here: http://www.thefullwiki.org/Tripcode.  I suspect that if such an operation were carried out, the coordinator would at least sign messages using an algorithm from the NSA Suite B, such as the Advanced Encryption Standard (AES) — or even a PGP signature — so that an opponent couldn’t hijack his identity as easily as has been done here.  He may upgrade his standards after reading this, but frankly, it is a far too late to matter.
Using an open source password cracker (hashcat), publicly available information, and a little guess work about Q’s favored key space, a user can successfully recover all of the passwords that correspond to Q tripcodes. These are posted below in chronological order of use:
Tripcode:  ITPb.qbhqo  ->  Password:  Matlock
Tripcode:  UW.yye1fxo  ->  Password:  M@tlock!
Tripcode:  xowAT4Z3VQ  ->  Password:  Freed@m-
Tripcode:  2jsTvXXmXs  ->  Password:  F!ghtF!g
Tripcode:  4pRcUA0lBE  ->  Password:  NowC@mes
Tripcode:  CbboFOtcZs  ->  Password:  StoRMkiL
Tripcode:  A6yxsPKia.  ->  Password:  WeAReQ@Q
Note that Q seems to be unaware that the algorithm only takes the first 8 characters of the password and ignores the rest.  In the past, Q has claimed to have baked meaning and foreknowledge of future events into these passwords, in particular, the 4pRcUA0lBE:NowC@mes tripcode-password pair.  If I understand correctly, Q claims that the full password was “NowC@mesTHEP@in—23,” with 23 signifying the date of an important event, but anything beginning with “NowC@mes” would yield the same tripcode signature.  This weakness severely undercuts any claimed predictive power and indicates a possible intent to mislead.  For example, all of the following passwords should yield the same tripcode, 4pRcUA0lBE:
NowC@mesTheKing      — Q is Snoop Dogg
NowC@mesTheSun       — Q is Ringo Starr
NowC@mesTheAnswer-42 — Q is Douglas Adams
These can all be tested at at minichan’s tripcode test page. https://minichan.org/triptest?name=A%23NowC%40mesTheAnswer-42 .

To directly test all of these examples with a DES cypher, go to https://www.functions-online.com/crypt.html , paste the password in, and use the second and third characters of the password as the salt.  The tripcode will be the final ten characters of the resulting DES hash. Most concerning to me is the penultimate password, which contains the word “StoRM,” which is Q’s prophesied calamity which will sweep away those Q calls out as enemies and may involve mass arrests, executions, and institution of martial law in the worst case.  The second part, “kiL”, is self-explanatory.  Both of these are especially concerning since Q has been ramping of his rhetoric of late.  I urge everyone to be VERY careful before taking action which could injure anyone, especially yourself, your family, and your fellow patriots, at Q’s direction.  I do not believe he has our values or best interests at heart.

Finally, many of you know someone who has handled highly classified information, worked in SCIFs, and communicated securely in a professional context.  I urge you to seek their wisdom in this matter, to evaluate to feasibility of Q’s claims.  I also urge you to study the National Industrial Security Program Operating Manual (NISPOM), which covers handling and protection of national security information in exhaustive detail, then contrast its instructions with what “Q” is doing.

It is my hope that I am blowing this all out of proportion, and I apologize if I am making mountains out of molehills. However, I feel that it is my duty to pass this on to you all, just in case.  God bless you, and thank you again for your time and all your hard work.
Hello, fellow Patriots! This concern-trolling aimed at discrediting and disqualifying Q, more than anything we've seen yet, is evidence that the Q project is legitimate on some level, regardless of how it originally started. This deeply concerned troll protests WAY too much, and as anyone with any literary ability can see, the above pastebin was written by at least three different people, each pushing a different aspect of the desired narrative.

It should also demonstrate to you the importance of controlled opposition and explain why the likes of Ben Shapiro, Jordan Peterson, Candace Owen, and the next conservative du jour are being constantly pushed on you. They desperately need conservatives to "keep the faith in the system", to "Take that energy, together, and go out and use it as our Founders intended." They do not want you noticing anomalies, observing underlying patterns, and asking uncomfortable questions about them.

The rhetoric is total nonsense, which you will note is a commonly observed theme among the conops. This is the worst of it: "Anyone who betrays those founding values by asking us to suspend trust in well-constructed arguments and the knowable is betraying the foundation of our law, our history, and our civilization."

Really? Skepticism about syllogisms and scientage is treason? That's a fascinating claim. And to the contrary, history shows that asking questions is an important element of the religious faith that is the basis for Western Civilization. Of course, this isn't the first time that a man who asks questions has troubled the authorities. Nearly thousand years ago, a man asked his followers, "Who do you say I am?"

It is my belief that Q is a young, untrained American man who is playing games with your faith, your hope, and your love of country, mostly because he finds it amusing.  I believe he may call you to violence, not to save our home, but merely for entertainment.

Oh Sweet Saint Detective Comics! Do you realize what this means? Q is THE JOKER!

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Blogger God Emperor Memes August 11, 2018 6:15 AM  

John 6:69
My favourite verse.

Blogger Jack Ward August 11, 2018 6:46 AM  

A day or two ago happen to catch a few min. of Limbaugh. He mention Jordan Peterson in passing as someone who has influenced young people to be skeptical of the sjw. Mainly the theme was one of reporting straight news. Still, the man needs to do more reading here at the Vox site.

Blogger Uncle John's Band August 11, 2018 6:47 AM  

The ham-fisted transparency of these clowns makes it more and more clear how dependent they are on institutional control and ruthlessness.

Blogger Don't Call Me Len August 11, 2018 6:59 AM  

No matter what roundabout verbiage and misdirection they use, it really does always come down to shouting "The number one enemy of progress is questions!"

Blogger Amethyst Dominica August 11, 2018 7:05 AM  

Unopposed victory after unopposed victory has made the Clowns weak over time. It brings to mind the importance of the Fake Right in turning aside any real threats to the Uniparty. "Don't worry," mewls the Cuckservative,"we'll handle this fight! You just sit down in the corner there and let us do the heavy lifting! That's what you elected us for!"

Said fight between the Cuckservative and the Establishment Left would go something like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_j90aRG_arg

Cuckservative: (Whispers) Are they buying it? It really looks like I'm fighting you, doesn't it?

Blogger Mike S. August 11, 2018 7:06 AM  

Reading it twice you can almost imagine how this PSYOP piece was cobbled together. Some Clown Section Chief gets call by his Cabal handler, is told Q board will be hacked and sends some tech info compiled by someone in IT. Section chief tasks his senior PSYOP guy, who is well versed in persuasion techniques, has had his underlings conduct studies of his target audience, but is totally and utterly disconnected from their reality. "I'm one of you", he says as he goes through the list of ailments and grievances the human cattle a.k.a. his "folks" have befallen, trying to create an emotional connection to make us more amenable to his reasoning. His actions of course are humbly inspired by the wisdom of the Founding Fathers, whose legacy he has spent his lifetime defending. He wraps it up trying to instill a sense of isolation and hardship (good cop), but in the end he has no idea what the tech gibberish compiled by the IT guy means, so just pastes it below.

Is this seriously the best they can come up with? If so, these people are stupid indeed.

Blogger Mister Excitement August 11, 2018 7:16 AM  

The America of my youth has become completely bastardized, so whenever I see the words "Patriot" "Principles" "Constitution" or any other such nonsense, my BS detector peaks.

That's a sad and heartbreaking way to live. I wanted to grow old in America, not a hopelessly corrupt North-American Brazil.


@2 and @5

If you really want to see some Cuckservatism, I came across this thread yesterday at Conservaboomer Free Republic. It's really amazing.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3678182/posts

Blogger Ingot9455 August 11, 2018 7:27 AM  

Tip top.

Blogger VD August 11, 2018 7:30 AM  

Section chief tasks his senior PSYOP guy, who is well versed in persuasion techniques, has had his underlings conduct studies of his target audience, but is totally and utterly disconnected from their reality.

He's actually a very good writer. Too good. He hits too many rhetorical buttons too perfectly. It reads like John C. Wright trying to write for the Kindle Unlimited crowd. You can see what he's trying to mimic, but it's just not even close.

And then the tech stuff just appears out of nowhere. Even though he's no infosec expert....

Blogger VD August 11, 2018 7:36 AM  

High-IQ giveaway: "the ill-connected".

Instead of using a more conventional term for low status people without connections, he simply reversed "well-connected" in a clever, correct, and very uncommon way.

Even very smart people have no idea how hard it is to convincingly mimic someone else's writing style. For example, I can do Maupassant. I MIGHT be able to do Poe. I simply cannot do Lovecraft.

Blogger buzzardist August 11, 2018 7:37 AM  

I'm scared for my universe, and I'm especially scared for you good people who look to reality as a foundation for existence. I've seen how my good folks are suffering. Reality is uncertain. Time is shifting. Material existence seems to appear and fade without rhyme or reason.

It is my belief that Q is a charlatan.

It is my belief that Q is a young, untrained member of a continuum, part of a consciousness that is able to exist beyond our dimension, and who interacts with out reality in disruptive, seemingly petulant ways. I believe that Q may be playing with you, encouraging you toward behavior that could destroy humanity and, indeed, all time and the universe as we know it.

I have had the opportunity to read and watch some of our society's greatest science fiction, and I am in a unique position to recognize the significance of Q. Q is a special designation, a collective name for the members of this virtually omnipotent continuum that humans know so little about. Because I am specially aware of this significance of the name "Q," you have to understand that I have your best interests at heart, and you should heed my warnings about the ways in which Q is dangerously playing with you, your decisions, and the fabric of space-time.

Blogger VD August 11, 2018 7:41 AM  

Narrative support: "I believe he may call you to violence, not to save our home, but merely for entertainment."

Total derailment: "I have had the opportunity to work in our country’s national labs, and have worked with some of those clever, hard-working folks that hold Q clearance."

WTF? He had to work in how he knew what a "Q clearance" was, but this was almost ludicrously inept. The passive language and PR speak is completely wrong, especially for a supposed scientist.

Blogger Mocheirge August 11, 2018 7:47 AM  

Do we actually know that the name "Q" is a reference to intel clearance? Did Q himself ever explain it?

Blogger MB August 11, 2018 7:49 AM  

To elaborate a bit:

"The world is shifting away under our feet, largely due to inscrutable forces with no historical parallel. Change is everywhere and can be sourced to nowhere".
We bitterly cling to our guns and our religion, while confronted with inscrutable forces we cannot even begin to understand, because we cave-dwelling troglodytes haven't read enough Toffler and Friedman.
Whatever is coming is completely unprecedented. It's natural to be afraid of change and hard to adapt to it. We hopelessly resist change, but change is coming. And with it hope. The world is flat now.

"Sneering elites in government and the media look down on us and assure us that this is all our fault. It is difficult to know who to trust".
Those sneering smarties tell us it's our fault, but the OP is one of the good guys. He is telling it like it is, but still willing to give us the benefit of doubt.

"In times like these, we reach out for any comfort we can find. We want to help, we want to put our meager power together with others and fix it all. There are people out there in the world who will take advantage of this powerful need. Politicians, business leaders, religions…and others".
Unlike the OP, we aren't smart enough to scrutinize the unscrutable. No-good troublemakers with dubious credentials are trying to take advantage of us, but all will be forgiven if we come back into the fold.

"Embrace that friendship and camaraderie, because it is a rare thing in our lonely age! Take that energy, together, and go out and use it as our Founders intended".
Can you hear the people sing?

The OP seems pretty smart, as evidenced by his ability to use words. Shouldn't we listen to he has to say?

Blogger LAZ August 11, 2018 7:51 AM  

Using low level tripcodes as a honeypot is Brilliant. These people really are that stupid.

Blogger Duke Norfolk August 11, 2018 8:02 AM  

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Blogger Brad Richards August 11, 2018 8:03 AM  

Q is a charlatan? Of course he is. Right up there with 9/11 conspiracies, chem trails, and homeopathy.

Like all charlatans, he started out with bits of the truth, in order to gain credibility. He then moved on to things people want to be true. Then on to various predictions, surely some of which will happen, if only by accident.

The question is only: what does Q want out of it? Is it only personal satisfaction, or is Q hoping, at some point, to sucker people out of their money?

Blogger Al From Bay Shore August 11, 2018 8:23 AM  

All I can do is read Q and the internet researchers. Most do not follow Q (Tracybeanz did at one time) but their research appears to elaborate on the questions posited by Q. Thomas Wictor elaborated on what can be described as North Korea's liberation. Stealth Jeff and Imperator Rex elaborates on the investigations done by Sessions DOJ. Heshmat Alavi does excellent work on what appears to be an impending revolution in Iran. Tracybeanz pointed out a connection between Manafort, Oleg Deripaska, and Tony Podesta (it's come to light that Deripaska had a relationship with Christopher Steele). All these researchers, and others, use open sources.

At this point, all I can do is hold the hope that the predictions made by Q and the well sourced work by the internet researchers turns into something tangible (regime change in Iran, indictments from the Sessions DOJ, the Mueller investigation revealing Deep State corruption, further change in NK).

We shall see.

Blogger Looking Glass August 11, 2018 8:25 AM  

Mocheirge wrote:Do we actually know that the name "Q" is a reference to intel clearance? Did Q himself ever explain it?

Pretty sure it's never been stated by Q, but people simply started running with things looking for what might be related.

@17 Brad Richards

Several parts of the US Intelligence system knew 9/11 was coming, the hijackers also got help from at least Iranian & Saudi Intelligence and something blew up in WTC 7. ChemTrails appear to have been tested (though dropped) somewhere in the 50s. Some Homeopathy actually does work because the placebo effect is nearly as strong as most medications.

You're not very good at this game, and you really don't understand the Q Project anyway.

Blogger Johnny August 11, 2018 8:27 AM  

It reminds me of Ron L Hubbard. Sweeping and suspect declarative statements that go from one topic to another with lightening speed.

Blogger Duke Norfolk August 11, 2018 8:27 AM  

Not to derail things, but this struck me as, well, wrong:

"...the world view of the Enlightenment, among whose core values is that there is a singular, true natural order established by our Creator, and that all things must obey that law, and that this natural law is fundamentally knowable by human kind."

The "established by our Creator" part. Isn't that wrong? I thought The Enlightenment was the whole "Age of Reason" thing, and was implicitly a rejection of religion and the notion of a Creator.

But I'm not pretending to be expert on this. I'm interested in others' thoughts here.

Blogger Durandel August 11, 2018 8:33 AM  

“The world is hard enough as it is without shouldering the responsibility of fighting a hyper-competent, irredeemably evil enemy on your own”

So that’s how they see themselves. I question the hyper-competent part, but they admit to being irredeemably evil...which will make it easier to do to them what needs doing.

Blogger justthinkin August 11, 2018 8:33 AM  

Honest work is getting hard to find? That's odd. Out here in the real world, employers are having a hard time finding workers.

As to the validity of Q, we'll find out by midterms.

Blogger Al From Bay Shore August 11, 2018 8:35 AM  

@21 I believe The Enlightenment includes John Locke. Neon Revolt's mention of the Constitution and the Founders, in my opinion, creates a context that justifies his claim as Locke was a devout Calvinist and America was essentially founded on Locke's principles (natural rights doctrine). I think Cato's Letters fits somewhere in that too as there were a lot of Trenchard/ Gordon "groupies" in the 13 colonies.

I'm going off the top of my head so I could be oversimplifying things a bit.

Blogger wreckage August 11, 2018 8:36 AM  

I have no idea if Q is what Q says, and no idea if it's relevant in any case; it seems to largely act as a catalyst for unpredictable and creative NN processing.

But by crikey, if that post quoted could get any more gratingly oblivious-political-speechwriter, it's hard to imagine how.

Was it calculated to be infuriating? Was it intended to inculcate hatred?

Assuming he even exists, just how clever a manipulator IS Q?

Blogger Al From Bay Shore August 11, 2018 8:36 AM  

@23 I thought that too.

Blogger SergeiSiminov84 August 11, 2018 8:37 AM  

'They' are trying to control Alex Jones.
'They' are trying to control Q.

'They' are trying to control you.

Blogger Silly but True August 11, 2018 8:41 AM  

To Kek an entertained home, is a safe home.

Blogger Looking Glass August 11, 2018 8:48 AM  

@18 Al From Bay Shore

James Angleton, former Counter-Intelligence head of the CIA, had a phrase. The "Wilderness of Mirrors". The Q Project has spun up a huge collection of people that can now start to see through that wilderness in a coordinated fashion. You used to need the George Webb-types, and the problem is that has always been compromised by the monetary nature of many things.

It's the creation of fully Weaponized Autism.

Iran's regime is being taken out, with clearly a very limited CIA footprint. The fact it's working and isn't designed to install a Western Stooge is the key sign. (The Kurds just left Kirkuk seemingly without any reason while main Iraq forces were on approach. A significant deal was cut that involves the Kurds. We'll see how things play out.)

Blogger Matt August 11, 2018 8:49 AM  

Scientologist' anti Leah Remini videos are more pers uasive

Blogger Uncle John's Band August 11, 2018 8:50 AM  

21. Duke Norfolk

American Enlightenment deism vs. French Enlightenment atheism

Blogger Looking Glass August 11, 2018 8:52 AM  

@21 Duke Norfolk

Depends who of the Enlightenment writers you're looking at. As the basic level, though, they were trying to reinvent God, but what they really did was create a new polytheistic religion with "Reason" as the new chief god.

Blogger MB August 11, 2018 8:54 AM  

Duke Norfolk wrote:
The "established by our Creator" part. Isn't that wrong? I thought The Enlightenment was the whole "Age of Reason" thing, and was implicitly a rejection of religion and the notion of a Creator.


They were against mysticism, against obscurantism, against organized religion, against Catholicism, against monastic orders, against the Jesuits. They were, to make another broad generalization, in favor of putting religion on rational grounds, freedom of conscience, toleration, critical readings of the Bible, "natural" religion. Some parts of this program may contradict others.

Even the Jacobins had a so-called Temple of Reason. As far as I can tell, freemasonry also embodied this program and pretty much everyone belonged to some freemason club around that time. At least publicly, they were mostly deists, not atheists.

Blogger wreckage August 11, 2018 8:56 AM  

@33 Deism only ends one way though.

Blogger IrishFarmer August 11, 2018 8:56 AM  

The best argument against Q, aside from the fact that month after month something big is promised and never delivered, is what hes asking people to do.

The left is winning because they took control over each lever of power one by one, infiltrating and then turning it completely over. They took control of politics, education, money...pretty much everything by this point.

Q is probably fake because his solution is "wait for us to magically undo decades of infiltration with help from the magic of your aspergers powers".

If the right isnt talking about the long painful work of retaking institutions or building new ones then we are just thumbing our cornholes while things continue to degenerate.

I know its not a popular opinion here, but I really do think this Q thing is an embarrassing waste of time that helps demonstrate yet again why the right never wins. The left takes power by any means, while the right fantasizes and fights battles where nothing is really at stake because at least then they cant fail and they dont have to do hard work.

But thats just like my opinion, man.

Blogger Al From Bay Shore August 11, 2018 8:59 AM  

@31 I was thinking about the "French Chapter" of the Enlightement which is fundamentally different from both the English and American chapters. The revolutions in England (Puritan and Glorious) and America took a path different from the French Revolution. What I mean is the aftermath. America and England to a evolutionary path that was "less collectivist" than that of France.

Blogger Longtime Lurker August 11, 2018 9:02 AM  

The Department of Narrative Enforcement called. It wants its rhetoric back.

Blogger Johnny August 11, 2018 9:04 AM  

21
"...the world view of the Enlightenment, among whose core values is that there is a singular, true natural order established by our Creator, and that all things must obey that law, and that this natural law is fundamentally knowable by human kind."

My take is that it is exactly wrong in that it describes what was in place prior to the Enlightenment. The movement put forward a collection of doctrines, some embracing religion and others rejecting it. Hardly "singular."

Blogger wreckage August 11, 2018 9:06 AM  

You do realise that you contradict yourself here, right?
Example: We need to retake institutions. OK. Trump is doing so. Q preaches support for Trump. Your conclusion: Q is bad.

We need to do the hard work; but not cognitive work. Some other, undefined work. Not thinking, not digging, and not supporting the most Right wing president in living memory. Licking windows perhaps?

And are you really sure that networked autists with a deep mistrust of the Left are NOT the new institution we need? Because I'm sure, regardless of Q, that they ARE.

"Q is probably fake because his solution is "wait for us to magically undo decades of infiltration with help from the magic of your aspergers powers".

If the right isnt talking about the long painful work of retaking institutions or building new ones then we are just thumbing our cornholes while things continue to degenerate."

Blogger Looking Glass August 11, 2018 9:09 AM  

@35 IrishFarmer

People need to stop kidding themselves. The institutions can be "solved" in a long weekend. It's shooting first that no one wants to do, as it ends all of the illusions. People love their happy illusions. That's the issue that has to be solved, otherwise it just all becomes a blood bath. Though, in the American context, it's going to be extremely one-sided.

@33 MB

The Jesuits bit was pretty much the only thing they got right.

Blogger riffer73 August 11, 2018 9:09 AM  

At this point Q can be exposed as my Grandmother and it doesn't matter. He has got people thinking and brought a lot over to the cause.

Blogger Damelon Brinn August 11, 2018 9:19 AM  

Man, that was a lot of concern packed into one post. I haven't been keeping up with Q lately, but all this could have been copied and pasted from last December. We got these "I'm ashamed I was fooled, but I have to admit it to help you guise see it" confessionals then too.

Tripcodes are a red herring. Yes, they can be cracked and coopted. That just means you can't blindly accept anything that comes with one. But you shouldn't do that anyway, because Q himself has always said he would mix disinformation in with the truth. And Q didn't use a tripcode for the first couple weeks, so there's no way to prove any of the tripcodes match the person who started it all.

I see Q like Pizzagate: some truth, some misinformation through people guessing wrong or stretching the connections too far, and some disinformation injected by the other side to try to disqualify the truth. You have to use your own brain to judge each piece of information that comes along. Last fall, I figured Q was a group of people connected to the White House, but not necessarily as high up as we assumed from the Q Clearance hint. But now it's taken on a life of its own, and I'm not sure whether "is Q legit" is even relevant anymore. Americans rallying around the idea that we can take our country back from the people who have controlled and manipulated the flow of information are legit, and that's what matters.

Plus, it's fun to watch shills on various sites trying so hard to disqualify Q lately that they make people curious enough to go check it out for themselves. Anyone who does, even if he doesn't buy into the whole Q thing, is going to encounter ideas that they don't really want more people thinking about.

Blogger Weak August 11, 2018 9:20 AM  

Q is evil because there is a chance he might invite people to violence. Now if you'll excuse me, I'm very busy making Drumpf-Russia signs to bring to a peaceful Antifa rally.

Blogger VD August 11, 2018 9:22 AM  

I know its not a popular opinion here, but I really do think this Q thing is an embarrassing waste of time that helps demonstrate yet again why the right never wins.

How is it a waste of time? A few channers are digging into plane movements and drawing connections between major international actors instead of posting anime and traffic accident porn?

You have a strange sense of priorities.

Blogger Doktor Jeep August 11, 2018 9:23 AM  

Wow that stuff was 90s-grade crap back when the internet was new and boomers on their AOL accounts were believing in everything they read on the internet. Suddenly I'm having nostalgia for Seinfeld and Deep Space 9 reruns after reading that. But make no mistake. That rhetoric is aimed at more easily gullible boomers.

Blogger pyrrhus August 11, 2018 9:32 AM  

This propaganda is so lame that you have to wonder whether it was the Clowns who wrote it....Is it that hard to get good help?

Blogger tuberman August 11, 2018 9:32 AM  

Should be fun keeping an eye out for all of this stuff the next few days. Everything eventually comes to better daylight since the God Emperor was elected.

I suspect the hacked tripcode was another trap, but no way to find out for sure.

Blogger tuberman August 11, 2018 9:36 AM  

46. pyrrhus

The cobbled together look is a "in-our-face" clue.

Blogger wreckage August 11, 2018 9:38 AM  

@44, verily, that deciphering reality is now the hobby of some otherwise ne'er-do-wells is a positive thing. Weaponized autism for the win.

Blogger Jamie-R August 11, 2018 9:38 AM  

Drawing from reading it for a long time, this is a well-trained elite cell with full powers and funding. They knew who & what would come at them, they've said some outrageous things, but only for mainstream publications. In the world of the elite, it's a hidden truth, Trump stumped up to a speech with Clinton & religious elites said $6 million net net net, then how Hillary took a few villages in Haiti, the Satan-worshipping pedophiles reference had some in the back uneasy. They'd know. But Trump must have been assured his safety by military guys, no way he did this alone. He'd be dead. I believe the back story of a coup d'état in 2014 & serious planning by the hardest working patriots the country has makes sense. They planned and gamed this. It IS the best military in the world. As the SAS says down here, who dares, wins.

Blogger Damelon Brinn August 11, 2018 9:39 AM  

Do we actually know that the name "Q" is a reference to intel clearance? Did Q himself ever explain it?

When he first used "Q" on Nov. 1 he opened with "Q Clearance Patriot." The next day he wrote this:

What is Q Clearance?
What hint does that explicitly refer to?
DOE?
Who would have the goods on U1?
Does stating 'Q' refer that person works in DOE?
No.
Does it refer that someone dropping such information has the highest level of security within all departments?
Why is this relevant?

Also, in general, the main things he was talking about then were in that area: uranium, nuclear secrets, and North Korea's nuclear program.

Blogger Francis Parker Yockey August 11, 2018 9:51 AM  

...particularly if said website’s claim to fame was a loud public argument about about video games.

He just had to get that Gamergate reference in there, didn't he? He seems kind of... unhappy about it.

Just because it was a unexpected crowd-sourced deconstruction of a component of the officially-promoted narrative? Though a seemingly-unimportant part.

On the other hand, it also serves as a rhetorical hook to anchor:
"It is my belief that Q is a young, untrained American man who is playing games with your faith, your hope..."

So I may be giving the author too little credit here.

Blogger dienw August 11, 2018 9:53 AM  

Speaking of Jesuits and other fake Christians, a mention on NeonRevolt led me to this woman who is exposing pedophiles.

Blogger Dave August 11, 2018 10:06 AM  

If Q is the Joker, I'm Batman.

Blogger Ken Prescott August 11, 2018 10:12 AM  

Q is the Department of Energy clearance for nuclear weapons information.

It's also the guy from Star Trek who actually was likable and believable as a character.

It's also an aerospace engineering term for aerodynamic pressure. ("Max Q" during a space launch refers to the vehicle's passage through the transonic region.)

Blogger Francis Parker Yockey August 11, 2018 10:13 AM  

This part is phrased in purely emotional terms, with repeated use of "we" and "our." Building empathy -- "I'm one of you."

Sneering elites in government and the media look down on us and assure us that this is all our fault...

In times like these, we reach out for any comfort we can find. We want to help, we want to put our meager

Then, model the expected behavior, drawing on the expected empathy (shift to "I"):
It is hard as hell for me to admit when I’ve been fooled. I have been in that place. It is humiliating.

Then the close (shift to "you"):

I beg you not to turn away from this message, and to absorb the short-term suffering that recognition and repentance entails. I don’t think that you will find it impossible, because you are tough.

The use of "repentance" is a little clunky here, though. I get a definite sense of "atheist trying to figure out how to address a Christian audience."

Blogger Ken Prescott August 11, 2018 10:14 AM  

What if Q is really John DeLancie?

Blogger IrishFarmer August 11, 2018 10:14 AM  

"How is it a waste of time? A few channers are digging into plane movements and drawing connections between major international actors instead of posting anime and traffic accident porn?
"

Heh, good point.

I'm surprised that you don't agree with me, since I think of you as one of the people doing the hard work I talked about in the original post. I still think Q could be counterproductive even if he is getting the autists to do something besides jerk it to anime. For one, if it turns out to be false, that's going to be hugely demoralizing. But worse, all of the time spent on that could have been spent creating a new platform. The money spent on Q shirts and signs could have been spent on alternative comic books or putting together capital for something like an independent paypal. I'm not that great at thinking of stuff like this, my point is just that these efforts could be going towards something which will help turn things in our favor, because even if Q is real these things are still going to need to be done, or we're screwed next time the left really takes power.

Blogger Chiva August 11, 2018 10:14 AM  

"Register each other to vote, canvas, run for office, persuade your fellows, read everything, and trust only that which is worth your heart, your effort, your blood and treasure."

The writer does not like what is going on yet asks us to stay and work in the current system. We have seen how well that has worked out.

Blogger IrishFarmer August 11, 2018 10:15 AM  

"You do realise that you contradict yourself here, right?
Example: We need to retake institutions. OK. Trump is doing so. Q preaches support for Trump. Your conclusion: Q is bad."

Trump is fixing some important institutions like federal courts. But you'll notice he's only fixing those institutions that don't take decades to subvert, and tons of coordination and effort. In 2024 when Trump will (might) sadly be forced out of the presidency we'll have our first real chance of the left taking power again (although I'd say they still have power now since most Republicans are basically leftists). At that point, unless something changes, academia, the media, financial institutions, multinational corporations, etc. will still all belong to the left. The point is, none of the deeply entrenched strong holds of leftist power are being flipped back, because that requires nearly as much work and time as it took to subvert them in the first place. Come 2024, the left will have its chance to take revenge for Trump and if that happens it's going to be ugly. Time is short, every bit of effort really matters right now.

"We need to do the hard work; but not cognitive work. Some other, undefined work. Not thinking, not digging, and not supporting the most Right wing president in living memory. Licking windows perhaps?"

Supporting Trump is extremely important, especially since we're operating on thin margins. But to be fair, I did outline in my original comment what should be done instead. Something Vox is doing, and why I continue to support him: creating alternatives or trying to retake institutions where possible.

"And are you really sure that networked autists with a deep mistrust of the Left are NOT the new institution we need? Because I'm sure, regardless of Q, that they ARE."

Anything is possible. But I have to assume that so long as leftists maintain control over the real levers of power, they'll continue to win. I'm not going to pin my hopes on a 4chan anon that something bordering on magic is going to happen.

"People need to stop kidding themselves. The institutions can be "solved" in a long weekend. It's shooting first that no one wants to do, as it ends all of the illusions. People love their happy illusions. That's the issue that has to be solved, otherwise it just all becomes a blood bath. Though, in the American context, it's going to be extremely one-sided."

I'm not convinced that would work. We've allowed law enforcement to become so militarized that we'd have to count on a significant portion of LE and military participating in a coup which I don't think will happen. And by the way this is in the context where every major country in the world with few notable exceptions is neoliberal, including basically every one of our allies. Even if a violent coup won, do you really think the ideology that violently, brutally took over nearly the entire globe is just going to sit on the sidelines and let it happen? IMO violence under the current system is a guaranteed to kill a lot of people and change nothing.


You might be right, though, I'm just making an uneducated guess on this one TBH.

Blogger Chiva August 11, 2018 10:27 AM  

Nearly thousand years ago, a man asked his followers, "Who do you say I am?"

two thousand?

Blogger bw August 11, 2018 10:33 AM  

Non Sirius Men !

Blogger SmockMan August 11, 2018 10:33 AM  

"penultimate password" this fbi profiler knows his audience.

Blogger Duke Norfolk August 11, 2018 10:34 AM  

Johnny wrote:

My take is that it is exactly wrong in that it describes what was in place prior to the Enlightenment. The movement put forward a collection of doctrines, some embracing religion and others rejecting it. Hardly "singular."


Yes, that jibes with my view. It isn't so much that it's totally wrong, but to sum it up in such a fashion is kind of misleading.

Thanks to all who responded.

Blogger MadMax 1861 August 11, 2018 10:34 AM  

@61 Yes, it's a typo. It should be two thousand. In 2033, it'll be two thousand years.The year that VD says it all comes apart.

Blogger Helldoge Desotryer August 11, 2018 10:40 AM  

Let's not be hasty. It could be written by 3 people, or just a guy with multiple personality disorder. Equally plausible by my expert approximation.

Blogger SmockMan August 11, 2018 10:46 AM  

"Finally, many of you know someone who has handled highly classified information, worked in SCIFs, and communicated securely in a professional context. I urge you to seek their wisdom in this matter, to evaluate to feasibility of Q’s claims."

Yes, turn back to the Deep State side. Just don't ask them about Hillary Clinton's emails and how she evaded responsibility.

Blogger VD August 11, 2018 10:52 AM  

I still think Q could be counterproductive even if he is getting the autists to do something besides jerk it to anime. For one, if it turns out to be false, that's going to be hugely demoralizing.

Oh, FFS. You realize that THE GREAT OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE TRAP proved to be so demoralizing that Trump was totally not elected. Here is why your position is totally and utterly wrong: you are attempting to demoralize people in the interest of them not possibly becoming even more demoralized in the future.

It's a nonsensical ex post facto justification. You're a cautious individual who is afraid to hope. That's literally all it is, a personality characteristic. It has nothing to do with anyone or anything else.


But worse, all of the time spent on that could have been spent creating a new platform.

These are not people who would have been doing that. I know you actually support new platforms, but if half the people who so frequently worry that people are wasting time and energy would just support new platforms instead of worrying on behalf of others, we could make our own superhero movies AND an MMO AND our own YouTube.

Blogger Felix Bellator August 11, 2018 10:54 AM  

@60 IrishFarmer - You wrote the Clown post didn't you?

"we'd have to count on a significant portion of LE and military participating in a coup which I don't think will happen."

A bunch of clowns that don't understand 4th generation warfare are going to defeat the world's largest armed group of 4th generation warfare coordinated insurgents? What a Debby Downer.

Blogger Dire Badger August 11, 2018 10:59 AM  

"Dear Fellow Earthlings"

Blogger Nostromo August 11, 2018 11:07 AM  

Hello fellow Nazi's. (Just kidding. I know we're not). Boy, this Q character has stirred some misguided people up. I hate to think what sort of trouble his followers will enact on his say so. We need to stay vigilant in our defense of the Founding Father's ideals. We need to work diligently to defeat any radicals who try to inflame us to violence. We need to keep support of traditional GOP candidates, not bomb throwers like Donald Trump. We are better than that, and so will win by converting the Liberals to our positions. We will win by allowing our great immigration system to allow more people who think like us into the country to overwhelm the Democratic vote. After all, Latinos are conservative in their values. Signed, Totes not a Clown Shill.

Blogger Damelon Brinn August 11, 2018 11:07 AM  

Watch all the leftist shills out there trying to disqualify Q with the same "LOL already debunked" tactics they tried with Pizzagate. They certainly don't think Q is bad for the right. Whether they think Q is for real, or they instinctively fear right-wingers organizing around anything, they see it as bad for their side. If it accomplishes nothing else, it's making them waste energy on shifting narratives.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash August 11, 2018 11:07 AM  

IrishFarmer wrote:For one, if it turns out to be false, that's going to be hugely demoralizing. But worse, all of the time spent on that could have been spent creating a new platform. The money spent on Q shirts and signs could have been spent on alternative comic books or putting together capital for something like an independent paypal.
Seriously, have you ever spent time on the chans? I'm an emotionally stunted, UHIQ, semi-autist and it gets too much even for me sometimes.

The chans were a huge sink of IQ, nihilism, dissipated energy, Aspergers and amazing honesty between the LARPs. Q has focused that combination into an incredible weapon for rebuilding American society. Not with stirring speeches or detailed dialectic, but with cryptic clues that literally force the Anons to find the truth for themselves. You obviously have no idea what Q has unleashed.

Blogger John Calla August 11, 2018 11:08 AM  

@35 The best argument against Q, aside from the fact that month after month something big is promised and never delivered, is what hes asking people to do.

This has pretty much been my take. I'm generally adverse to short-and-cryptic prognostications, because it's so easy to widely interpret them, but to me the Q phenomenon looks like a group LARP that went out of control or, as Wikileaks postulated, perhaps a CIA disinfo campaign.

The overall take-home message from Q can be summed up as "Trust the plan." The idea is that Trump and crew are rooting out all the filth and taking back the country and we can just sit back and trust that things are happening behind the scenes. One day Jeff Sessions is going to make an announcement and Obama and Hillary will be in handcuffs and sent off to a military tribunal. Or maybe Mueller is actually our guy and is investigating the Democrats. Let's be honest: is there any solid evidence for this? Does Hillary act like she's worried? Does it look like Mueller is on our side? The only evidence people point to are the "sealed indictments", but they don't understand what those are.

I think people believe Q because they want to believe that there are people in the government working hard to take out the garbage. It provides hope and comfort. But is trusting the plan a good strategy for the right?

Blogger James Dixon August 11, 2018 11:10 AM  

> People need to stop kidding themselves. The institutions can be "solved" in a long weekend. It's shooting first that no one wants to do, as it ends all of the illusions.

Pretty much, yes. And we're very reluctant to take that step as we know what it entails. The left neither knows nor cares, so they'll force it on us eventually. Trump, and probably Q, are a last ditch effort to keep things from reaching that point. Let's all pray they're successful.

> But you'll notice he's only fixing those institutions that don't take decades to subvert, and tons of coordination and effort.

Trump doesn't have decades to work. At most he has eight years. He's doing the ground work for a decades long project, but without that groundwork there's no hope of success.

> We've allowed law enforcement to become so militarized that we'd have to count on a significant portion of LE and military participating in a coup which I don't think will happen.

Law enforcement won't be a problem. They're not up to handling an actual shooting war and they know it. They'll retreat unless under military control. The military is another matter and is deeply divided at the moment.

> IMO violence under the current system is a guaranteed to kill a lot of people and change nothing.

It won't be violence under the current system. It will be a full civil war. And while as I said, the institutions targeted would be fixed quickly, the resulting conflict wouldn't. We know history. We know (in general terms) what it's going to be like.

Blogger SmockMan August 11, 2018 11:12 AM  


They are not experts in spycraft


AND

This weakness severely undercuts any claimed predictive power and indicates a possible intent to mislead.

Oh.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash August 11, 2018 11:13 AM  

John Calla wrote:is what hes asking people to do.


Which is?
Find the truth.
Support the God Emperor.
Remain united.

How is this bad?

Blogger James Dixon August 11, 2018 11:21 AM  

> The idea is that Trump and crew are rooting out all the filth and taking back the country and we can just sit back and trust that things are happening behind the scenes.

And your proof that they're not is?

Seriously, no one believes that's all it's going to take. Just for starters, the GOPe has to be removed by the roots and that's going to take years. This isn't an overnight job. But the alternative is civil war. There are lots of fronts to this war, and most accessible ones are voting, the legal system, and the economic front. Trump is fixing the legal system as best he can. The voting and economic fronts are up to us.

Blogger Hammerli280 August 11, 2018 11:25 AM  

My suspicion is that Q is someone or a group of someones in the NSA. And I would not be surprised if they had connections in the Trump administration. Remember that as soon as Trump was elected, it was the head of NSA who told Trump the Dems were running a pseudo-legal wiretap on his campaign.

People talk about "the intelligence community" as if it were monolithic. It's not.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash August 11, 2018 11:30 AM  

In my opinion, Q is Military Intelligence, probably ONI.

Blogger kmbr August 11, 2018 11:32 AM  

**Q is a young, untrained American man**

Oh, how bad did this person want to say angry and white? They probably even typed the words and deleted them.

Blogger Man of the Atom August 11, 2018 11:42 AM  

Ken Prescott wrote:Q is the Department of Energy clearance for nuclear weapons information.
It's also the guy from Star Trek who actually was likable and believable as a character.
It's also an aerospace engineering term for aerodynamic pressure. ("Max Q" during a space launch refers to the vehicle's passage through the transonic region.)


Q is also the power gain from input to output on a transistor.
Q is also the amount of heat transferred between systems in the First Law of Thermodynamics.
Q is the 17th letter of the English alphabet is my favorite ... watching the "17"s.

So many possibilities ...

Blogger JohnG August 11, 2018 11:43 AM  

“A Q clearance grants access to carefully compartmentalized nuclear weapons information.” …“They are not experts in spycraft and combat operations.”

It's a valid criticism. The classified networks are separated and you can't access one from another. Clearance doesn't give you access, and everything is compartmentalized and placed into SAPs. If you don't have a need to know about the SAP, you're not going to know anything about it. Your managers at the various levels are only going to have minimal details, and mostly just for the purposes of authorizing funding. If "Q" is actually a reference to a DOE clearance caveat, he would only have access to DOE information and whatever generic stuff the agencies and DoD upload to the various classified networks. Operational information is close-hold and the stuff that's of dubious legality is *very* close hold.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash August 11, 2018 11:46 AM  

JohnG wrote:If "Q" is actually a reference to a DOE clearance caveat, he would only have access to DOE information and whatever generic stuff the agencies and DoD upload to the various classified networks. Operational information is close-hold and the stuff that's of dubious legality is *very* close hold.

Where do technical nuclear systems and weapons information overlap with spycraft?

Blogger Patrick Kelly August 11, 2018 11:47 AM  

Whew, had me for a minute.

Started reading before my morning coffee a bit concerned Vox was posting this as a super serial warning for the ilk.

WTF!
Who's befuddled bitch this is?

Thought maybe some Nigerian prince was trolling the chans. The crypto references sound like a mish-mash of random key phrases ran through Google translate. Some of it not even wrong.

Not that I know shit about crypto, but I know people who do, and they don't sound like this.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd August 11, 2018 11:48 AM  

IrishFarmer wrote:For one, if it turns out to be false, that's going to be hugely demoralizing.

What would ``false'' look like? For that matter, what would ``true'' look like?

Does false mean that Q really hasn't had an effect? Does false mean that the chans really haven't been hard anti-Left, and digging up dirt on the Left? Does false mean that Trump hasn't found Q useful, and hasn't encouraged Q's followers?

I think ``true'' means nothing more than Q has kept the chans hard at work on MAGA. He never told us who he is, so I don't think much hinges on Q's identity.

IrishFarmer wrote:But worse, all of the time spent on that could have been spent creating a new platform.

You want a new platform? Go make one. You can't make one? Neither could most of the channers. Do what you can do, don't mess with other people doing what they can do.


One of the enormous strengths of open source efforts is that resources aren't centrally allocated. Everyone works on what pleases him, and no manager says ``no, we need you all to work on my pet project.'' If all that effort hadn't gone into following Q's clues, it would almost surely have gone into anime addictions and train spotting. None of it would have gone into new platforms.

Blogger VD August 11, 2018 11:48 AM  

Oh, how bad did this person want to say angry and white? They probably even typed the words and deleted them.

(nods)

Blogger James Dixon August 11, 2018 12:03 PM  

> The classified networks are separated and you can't access one from another. Clearance doesn't give you access, and everything is compartmentalized and placed into SAPs.

Three letters. N, S, A.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash August 11, 2018 12:03 PM  

Yeah, denigrating someone as angry and white would really work with channers.

Blogger Ken Prescott August 11, 2018 12:17 PM  

Three letters. N, S, A.

There are a VERY few areas that not even the NSA gets access to. But they revolve around certain very brief communications between 1600 and the four-star out in Bellevue, Nebraska that I devoutly hope never take place for real. (I live only 300 kilotons from a high-priority target.)

Blogger Ominous Cowherd August 11, 2018 12:20 PM  

Snidely Whiplash wrote:Yeah, denigrating someone as angry and white would really work with channers.

That indicates they know their enemy - us - at least a little. Not good. This was probably the best effort of their best trolls. Good.

Blogger SmockMan August 11, 2018 12:20 PM  

>Three letters. N, S, A.

NSA is not connected to every other TS/SCI network.

Even people with NSA clearance are not cleared or have need to know for other networks. After a person got clearance to NSA, if working on other TS/SCI networks in small locked rooms, these people has to sign in. All work on computers minimized for this person to work on said computers. And there are other networks, even TS networks that are considered 'below' NSA clearance that are not connected.

My guess is that NSA probably has the most on the network, however.

Blogger Ken Prescott August 11, 2018 12:22 PM  

"NSA is not connected to every other TS/SCI network. "

Actually, they are--they make the crypto and they monitor a lot of the networks to make sure nobody does anything effing stupid (like, say, connecting JWICS, SIPR, and NIPR through the same damn router--yes, that actually happened).

Blogger snod snodwon August 11, 2018 1:04 PM  

Mike Rothschild is the name you should be looking at. Daily Dot writer that specializes in conspiracies — remember that guy “Triumvirate” that kept saying he is a Rothschild in all the CBTS threads?

Blogger John Calla August 11, 2018 1:05 PM  

The questions about clearance level and need to know access and such stuff are somewhat impertinent, because the things that Q discusses couldn't possibly be recorded (i.e., stored on systems). That would be way too easy to compromise, and Q has presented quite an elaborate plot to take down the Deep State. This implies that if he really is who he says he is, then his information would be coming from direct communications and nothing else. And if this is true, clearance means very little.

Saying one has a "Q Clearance" is designed to credential the person to make him authoritative. It doesn't really have anything to do with the information he presents.

Blogger James Dixon August 11, 2018 1:08 PM  

> There are a VERY few areas that not even the NSA gets access to.

Agreed.

> NSA is not connected to every other TS/SCI network.

The NSA is connected to whatever they want to be connected to. It being against the rules isn't going to stop them. Their entire existence is against the rules.

> And there are other networks, even TS networks that are considered 'below' NSA clearance that are not connected.

Something not being on a network would mean they would need a physical presence and that could be monitored, yes. Even that might not be enough to stop them from doing so. I'm not an insider, so I don't know their full real space capabilities. But if it's networked, the NSA is monitoring it.

Blogger Hammerli280 August 11, 2018 1:10 PM  

Doesn't matter. Think about it. Some of what Q posts appear to be decoys, but a lot more is the sort of material that NSA would be intercepting at the UNCLAS level.

Back in the old days, if the FBI needed to wiretap someone, they would have to go to Bell Telephone, or AT&T, with a warrant. Today, I suspect they simply fax a warrant over to NSA - which already has the appropriate hooks into the networks.

Remember, we're talking about the Clinton and Obama camps - which are known for both their willingness to intercept communications and their eagerness to use sealed records.

My belief is that the scheme went like this:
1. HRC wanted to wiretap the Trump campaign.
2. HRC has her minions fake up justifications to wiretap third tier officials within the Trump campaign. Not Trump personally, not his innermost circle, but the people his innermost advisors talk to.
3. The faked justifications are suitably laundered through Fusion GPS, taken by Dem operatives in the FBI, and used to get a FISA warrant.
4. NSA is presented with a signed, legal warrant. They provide the FBI with intercepted communications. IAW normal procedures, the names of anyone except the person the warrant is against are blanked out.
5. The FBI presents the intercepts to senior HRC/Obama officials (mostly Susan Rice). Anything of political interest is unmasked, revealing the names of the person on the other end of the communication.
6. The political intelligence is sent to the HRC campaign.

To me, it's perfectly obvious. And I'd bet money that a check of FISA warrants will show that Carter Page was not the only target in the Trump campaign. And that there were efforts against both the Cruz campaigns in 2016 and the Romney campaign in 2012. Quite possibly even against Bush in 2000 and Dole in 1996. NEVER underestimate the criminality of the Democrats.

Q isn't joking about saying this is Watergate x 1,000.

Blogger Marsh 01701 August 11, 2018 1:30 PM  

Whether Q is legit or not no longer matters. Q has awakened a distracted dragon, the autists. Who have turned their attention to the questions Q has posed. A new world order IS coming, but it won't be the one (((they))) expected.

Can't help but think of Shia Lebeof's capture the flag event. Didn't turn out quite as expected, for him. Rousing good time for the anons. That was their first taste of power. Then Q appears. I know, correlation is not causation. Still, the energy feels very much the same.

Blogger OneWingedShark August 11, 2018 1:35 PM  

justthinkin wrote:Honest work is getting hard to find? That's odd. Out here in the real world, employers are having a hard time finding workers.
I think it very much depends on the sector of the economy and the geographic location as well; H1B, H2B, and illegals really distort the marketplace: one guy I know in town has a roofing company and survives off the reputation he's built over the past two or three decades, but there's a lot of companies that hire illegals and underbid him. If he was just starting and didn't have a reputation for the quality of his work, it'd be very difficult for him to get established.

Tech also has been terribly distorted: just look on Indeed, Dice, etc and look at the postings. It's not uncommon to see "Entry Level" jobs requiring 5 or more years of experience. I suspect a lot of these postings are more fluff, either generating excuses for generating H1B requests or harvesting resumes.

Also to consider is (a) the now-cultural antipathy towards training that a lot of companies have developed (see: Why Good People Can't Get Jobs: The Skills Gap and What Companies Can Do About It).

Blogger Snidely Whiplash August 11, 2018 1:42 PM  

OneWingedShark wrote:cultural antipathy towards training that a lot of companies have developed
When you reserve the right to dismiss anyone at any time for any reason, and demonstrably do so at whim, you are demonstrating you have no loyalty to your employees. When you have no loyalty to your people, they will feel none towards you. Without loyalty, training your people is a big expense with a very risky payoff.

Blogger Zwiebel August 11, 2018 1:43 PM  

Do these people not know who we are? I'm not an anon, I'm not important, I'm only a fan of the team, but even I almost immediately choked at that blatant appeal to emotion, that manipulative language. We've grown up with that sweet poison, and we've recognised it for what it really is. And we are now immune.

Blogger MeneMene August 11, 2018 1:56 PM  

Who would be taken in by that nauseating spew?

Blogger James Dixon August 11, 2018 2:06 PM  

> And I'd bet money that a check of FISA warrants will show that Carter Page was not the only target in the Trump campaign. And that there were efforts against both the Cruz campaigns in 2016 and the Romney campaign in 2012. Quite possibly even against Bush in 2000 and Dole in 1996. NEVER underestimate the criminality of the Democrats.

The cavalier attitude they demonstrated in this process does lend credence to the idea they have been doing it for a while.

> the now-cultural antipathy towards training that a lot of companies have developed

This is one of my pet peeves, so I won't get started with my agreement. :)

> Without loyalty, training your people is a big expense with a very risky payoff.

Yes. Loyalty is a two way street. One companies abandoned a long time ago. Employees have reacted predictably.

> Who would be taken in by that nauseating spew?

Boomers. Our opposition is still stuck in the 80's.

>

Blogger JohnG August 11, 2018 2:11 PM  

@84 They don't per se. Nuclear info would be compartmented to them only, but they would have access to the other networks because they have analysts looking for threats to nuclear infrastructure.

Blogger SmockMan August 11, 2018 2:23 PM  

> The classified networks are separated and you can't access one from another. Clearance doesn't give you access, and everything is compartmentalized and placed into SAPs.

This is true. Anyone saying anything different is clueless.

In theory could the NSA intercept JWICS and other TS/SCI networks and decrypt them and put them on NSA net? Sure. But that would be stupid.

Blogger Rhys August 11, 2018 2:24 PM  

I've seen the same stuff on the chans quite a bit recently as well. Unfortunately, the chans have become so dumbed down you can get them to withdraw support from anyone just by claiming they're a jew often enough with or without evidence.

Blogger Jack Amok August 11, 2018 2:41 PM  

The voting and economic fronts are up to us.

The voting part can be fixed by Trump too once he makes a little more progress on the courts front and maybe slips some Geritol into Sessions breakfast cereal. Well, partially fixed, he can stop dems from stealing elections, but it's still up to us to replace the mopin' GOPe with a real right-wing party.

For the economy, Trump is doing what he can reforming trade and immigration policy, but we will have to get the Zyklons trained in the relevant skills, which have mostly skipped a generation.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash August 11, 2018 2:45 PM  

Rhys wrote:Unfortunately, the chans have become so dumbed down you can get them to withdraw support from anyone just by claiming they're a jew often enough with or without evidence.
Literally nobody on the chans actually pays attention to one anon calling another anon a Jew. It's a casual insult, like calling someone dumb. Calling someone a commie/nagger/moise on /pol/ is like when we called each other gay in jr. high. Even calling some public figure a Jew requires some sort of proof before people actually believe it.

Blogger OneWingedShark August 11, 2018 2:55 PM  

Snidely Whiplash wrote:OneWingedShark wrote:cultural antipathy towards training that a lot of companies have developed

When you reserve the right to dismiss anyone at any time for any reason, and demonstrably do so at whim, you are demonstrating you have no loyalty to your employees. When you have no loyalty to your people, they will feel none towards you. Without loyalty, training your people is a big expense with a very risky payoff.

Indeed; absolutely true. And, as you note, the companies show no loyalty to their employees, yet demand the employees show them loyalty, which is their whole reasoning for not training.

Now, employers shouldn't take risks for the sake of taking risks, but the receiving-end of this is brutal: the employer expects the employee to move to his place, work under probation for a time, and spend zero (or as close to it as possible) on training, all while they “reserve the right to dismiss anyone at any time for any reason”.

Example: I've got a job offer from a University, the position is a remote location (30 min from a small village; 1 hr from an actual town/city; fairly high rent for either), and a probationary period of 1 year. I've made a counter-offer for 35 instead of 40 hr/wk (hopefully to counter commute time), a request for a shorter probationary period, and a guarantee that I will retain intellectual property rights.

Blogger JohnG August 11, 2018 3:05 PM  

@93 It's more like they have 3 or more thin clients (like Clear Cube) on a desk and a switch, they just switch back and forth with what they want to look at.

Blogger James Dixon August 11, 2018 3:10 PM  

> For the economy, Trump is doing what he can reforming trade and immigration policy

Yes, but I was referring more to denying the leftist organizations our money. Cord cutting and the like.

Blogger James Dixon August 11, 2018 3:13 PM  

> In theory could the NSA intercept JWICS and other TS/SCI networks and decrypt them and put them on NSA net? Sure. But that would be stupid.

The NSA's job, such as it is, is capturing and analyzing communications. It's easier to capture all of them than to capture specific ones.

Blogger Jack Amok August 11, 2018 3:15 PM  

H1B, H2B, and illegals really distort the marketplace

The H1B problem may be coming to an end. Our immigration lawyers at work were blunt about the impossibility of getting even an existing H1B transferred, let alone a new one granted, and we're a tech company.

Yes. Loyalty is a two way street. One companies abandoned a long time ago. Employees have reacted predictably.

People are loyal to each other now instead of corporations, at least in the Tech world I'm familiar with. We recognize we're mercenaries, but we're not lone wolves, we form floating teams that dissolve and reform time and time again. As companies go through the now-inevitable layoffs and shutdowns, these teams break up, but then reform in one or two other companies as members get hired and bring in their friends. Or someone gets seed money together for a start-up and does the same.

I push for as much training budget as I can get and put a lot of effort into developing the people who work for me. I expect to work with them again somewhere else, so whether it's in the company's best interests or not, it's in my best interest. It's part of the price the company pays for access to my skills. Besides, smart companies know career development is the best retention strategy for high performers short of handing out bags of gold. When execs start pushing back on development, it's a sign the company has turned dumb and it's time to start looking for a landing spot.

Blogger Rhys August 11, 2018 3:16 PM  

Snidely Whiplash wrote:Literally nobody on the chans actually pays attention to one anon calling another anon a Jew. It's a casual insult, like calling someone dumb. Calling someone a commie/nagger/moise on /pol/ is like when we called each other gay in jr. high. Even calling some public figure a Jew requires some sort of proof before people actually believe it.

I'm not just talking about them calling others jews. No doubt part of it is shills, but at the same time, it's pretty obvious there are some people who become atomized simply because they've been convinced not to trust anybody who isn't anonymous themselves. I would have to conduct a strawpoll thread or something to really find out directly, but just from browsing I would be willing to bet over half of them do not support Tommy Robinson or the G.E., simply because of empty diplomatic motions that they have taken.

Blogger OneWingedShark August 11, 2018 3:18 PM  

James Dixon wrote:> the now-cultural antipathy towards training that a lot of companies have developed

This is one of my pet peeves, so I won't get started with my agreement. :)

> Without loyalty, training your people is a big expense with a very risky payoff.

Yes. Loyalty is a two way street. One companies abandoned a long time ago. Employees have reacted predictably.

> Who would be taken in by that nauseating spew?

Boomers. Our opposition is still stuck in the 80's.

I'd actually like to hear your agreement, as this is one of my peeves too, and it's actually quite disturbing to compare/contrast with Army-life where training is known as needful, taken for granted, and actively pushed.

On the subject of Boomers, they seem to have a profound lack of empathy for younger generations, and a disconnection from the reality of the current job-market, to the point where it's almost like they expect you could go outside, turn over a rock, and find one (ie quit your job, walk across the street, get a new job; all same-day).

Blogger Noah B The Savage Gardener August 11, 2018 3:27 PM  

I don't really follow Q's posts but - even if he's completely full of it and everything he's writing is fiction, aren't his posts still useful propaganda for our side? He's helping to undermine the public's support for our enemies and normalizing the idea of a storm-like event.

Blogger Ariadne Umbrella August 11, 2018 3:33 PM  

keep up the good work: gen zyklon teens. oldest explained he's staying home thru college- dorm rape hysteria- and$$, and then he needs to apprentice to a real business. Figured this out from youtube videos.

So, keep it up: what you can do to make hiring earlier, more apprentice-y, training outside of rape on campus freaks. You are reaching young people online, and in games that span the globe.

Blogger Noah B The Savage Gardener August 11, 2018 3:40 PM  

I know its not a popular opinion here, but I really do think this Q thing is an embarrassing waste of time that helps demonstrate yet again why the right never wins. The left takes power by any means, while the right fantasizes and fights battles where nothing is really at stake because at least then they cant fail and they dont have to do hard work.

Ideas are the foundation of all organized human undertakings, and Q is popularizing the idea that the deep state is a corrupt and dangerous entity that needs to be eliminated.

Blogger Silent Draco August 11, 2018 4:03 PM  

Ken Prescott, please don't remind me of the SIPR/NIPR nightmare. That's a defensive NSA activity and a huge help. I knew people who panicked later after un-FUBARing a cable clusterf*&k. Analysts didn't bother to either trace short cables or check the color codes; then a Message came to the network admin. A couple people were fired or quit one step before it, to encourage the others.

@113 Jack Amok, it's back to the times of condottieri and mercenary bands. Negotiating for pay, training, and other bonuses for yourself and for the band. Why not? some ideas keep coming back around.

Blogger Cetera August 11, 2018 4:22 PM  

A couple of things that may have been overlooked here. When "people" say that Q's tripcodes have been compromised, and have been compromised for a long time so no one can trust anything he says, the obvious answer is "yes, of course."

Q's individual board has NOT been compromised, so Q's identity and current trip codes can always be verified, and trip code integrity can be ascertained. Q can always be legitimately identified by anons if Q wants to be, and can always disavow any posts under his "insecure" trip code should the need arise.

Part of the gameplan has ALWAYS been to have an insecure trip code that could be compromised. It would take a bit of technical know-how and some time/resources, but not too much. If any of the anons had really, really taken to trying to crack it, they could have, but they were more interested in following the crumbs and baking the bread.

The insecure trip codes weren't for us. They were for THEM. Those that Q maintains are stupid. And they ARE stupid. So stupid, in fact, that the plan wasn't going according to plan because the idiots couldn't find the key. The plan was taking too long because the low-IQ, lazy, incompetents in the Clown Agency couldn't figure out the bait.

So Q had to so something to bring them along. He was like a game master running an RPG where the players can't figure out the clues he's been dropping. So Q unmasked his password for the trip code, on purpose. The GM said, "oh, that key you've been looking for all this time turns out to have been in your pocket all along!"

The anons spotted it immediately, and took advantage of it, and actually brought more publicity to it. Then months and months go by, and I'm convinced the Q team had routed their plans through a different route bypassing the idiots, when they finally figured it out, and made that gloriously, hilariously obtuse post. I think Q expected that to happen close to a year ago.


As to the time wasting and building infrastructure, what do you want the infrastructure to look like? The anons ARE building their own infrastructure. They've figured out how to organize, how to delegate, how to crowd source, and how to communicate to normies. They've put together well-written documents and summaries, and built impressive memes. They have a world-class communication network that isn't reliant upon any one site or source. They've gotten others to join in and learn new skills, from people taking to youtube and making (extremely painful to watch at first) videos trying to explain it, and others making blogs and their own sites, which have come under attack. Then they've been learning how to support their own infrastructure, and even use it to supplement income.

They ARE building alternative infrastructure. It may not be anti-fragile yet, but it is a lot more established than I think most realize. They've learned people-infrastructure as well as tech, and for folks on the spectrum that is beyond powerful. And so many are learning new skills to go along with it.

When the autists are done, I fully expect them to be capable of taking over most countries in the world. Damn convenient too, as we're going to have need of new folks to replace all the corrupt assholes that we're going to be eliminating.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash August 11, 2018 5:28 PM  

Rhys wrote:it's pretty obvious there are some people who become atomized simply because they've been convinced not to trust anybody who isn't anonymous themselves.
You are assuming a level of neurotypicality that is not evident in the subject population. We're not talking people that would be raising money and knocking doors for Trump if they weren't distracted by Q. We're talking people who would be jerking it to anime and calling each other Shimon without Q.

Blogger IreneAthena August 11, 2018 6:36 PM  

Breaking story last few minutes of local news Friday 8/9/2018 reported two stolen aitcraft flying over Seattle, one a commercial plane, one an E-6 Mercury capable of transmitting launch commands to ICBM’s. Anchorwoman advised to check for updates in the morning, as by then the stories would probably be “all over the national news.” she was right about the coverage of the stolen commercial plane.

Blogger IreneAthena August 11, 2018 6:46 PM  

The news story was Fri 8/10/18 not 8/9/18 typo.

Blogger Garuna August 11, 2018 6:56 PM  

Q project is legitimate on some level, regardless of how it originally started

CONFIRMED: Q is semi-legitimate. Although Ali is anti-Q, he confirms that Q is a group of people with some legitimate connections. He also confirms that Jack Posobiec knows who Q is.

"One unheard story about #QAnon and @JackPosobiec." (7min)
https://www.pscp.tv/w/1rmxPNroEyjGN

Blogger Sagramore August 11, 2018 7:32 PM  

@80 My guess is that both Bannon and Ezra Cohen-Watnick are on the Q team. It's more than one person.

@82 Q in phonetic alphabet is Quebec. Now go look at the logo for Hydro-Quebec. Watch the water.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd August 11, 2018 8:48 PM  

Sagramore wrote:Now go look at the logo for Hydro-Quebec. Watch the water.

On the hydroquebec home page, I'm seeing a Q with a stylized lightning bolt for a tail, and no water. Give us a link to the image?

Blogger James Dixon August 11, 2018 8:58 PM  

> I'd actually like to hear your agreement, as this is one of my peeves too, and it's actually quite disturbing to compare/contrast with Army-life where training is known as needful, taken for granted, and actively pushed.

The problem is I find the subject so infuriating that I could probably go on for hours, and I don't want to tie up Vox's blog to that extent. Besides, it's not really on topic. I just wanted to let you know I agreed with you.

Blogger OneWingedShark August 11, 2018 11:00 PM  

James Dixon wrote:The problem is I find the subject so infuriating that I could probably go on for hours, and I don't want to tie up Vox's blog to that extent. Besides, it's not really on topic. I just wanted to let you know I agreed with you.
Fair enough; if you do want to discuss the issue you can pop an email to this gandle on gmail.

Blogger Wolfman at Large August 11, 2018 11:08 PM  

Armies have drills. Anons have larps.

Blogger wreckage August 11, 2018 11:30 PM  

Q. Quelle. Source.
https://infogalactic.com/info/Q_source

Blogger Wolfman at Large August 11, 2018 11:53 PM  

@130 Oh? Now that's interesting. Especially since there has to be at least one very serious biblical scholar on the Q-team.

Blogger Resident Moron™ August 12, 2018 5:34 AM  

“some of those hard-working folks”

Put me in mind of Obama’s speech writer.

Blogger wreckage August 12, 2018 8:32 AM  

@131 What tickles me is that Quelle is a hypothesized collection of Jesus pithy sayings, from which the larger narrative was rebuilt. It's mysterious, it's disputed, and its primary importance is arrived at by extrapolation.

It could very well be another coincidence, but it always struck me as my favourite imagined meaning of "Q". The source we're almost sure is there, but no-one has ever seen.

Blogger Dirk Manly August 12, 2018 9:33 AM  

@105

" In theory could the NSA intercept JWICS and other TS/SCI networks and decrypt them and put them on NSA net? Sure. But that would be stupid."

Yeah, because

1) It's NSA's duty and responsibility to *SPICIFY* the parameters of such networks (define encryption schemes, ISSUE the actual encryption keys), and

2) monitor ALL of those networks for
a) proper usage (i.e. no TOP SECRET information on a SECRET network
b) intrusion by hostile entities

means NSA isn't going to pay any attention to those at all.

Seriously, do you even understand how ANY of this works?

When I load a keyset into a SINCGARS radio, I'm setting the radio up to use the SINGCARS encryption system (Specified by NSA) using keys provided to me (which were issued to the Army by NSA).

And those keys aren't just used randomly. Every operational key issued out ALSO has START and END dates.

NSA knows EXACTLY what keys are in use on classified networks AT ALL TIMES.

Blogger Dirk Manly August 12, 2018 9:45 AM  

@116

"I don't really follow Q's posts but - even if he's completely full of it and everything he's writing is fiction, aren't his posts still useful propaganda for our side? He's helping to undermine the public's support for our enemies and normalizing the idea of a storm-like event."

It's BETTER than that.

Even if Q is full of shit... EVERY BIT OF EVIDENCE ABOUT THE BAD ACTORS THAT THE ANONS HAVE DUG UP IS TRUE.

Q really doesn't provide any information -- he points and says, "Look over there at that field. Tell us what you find." And lo and behold, the anons go over to the field, and find a severed hand, a couple personal snapshots, and other artifacts. It doesn't matter if Q knew anything about that field, what the anons find after getting there is evidence.

To put it another way... Q is like the leader of a jazz band. Nobody knows exactly what the sax player or the trumpet player or the clarinet player is going to do... not even each other.... but we all know what music sounds like when we hear it.

Blogger Dirk Manly August 12, 2018 9:46 AM  

Music as opposed to random notes being banged out by a 3 year old in front of a piano.

Blogger Dirk Manly August 12, 2018 9:57 AM  

@119

"Ken Prescott, please don't remind me of the SIPR/NIPR nightmare. That's a defensive NSA activity and a huge help. I knew people who panicked later after un-FUBARing a cable clusterf*&k. Analysts didn't bother to either trace short cables or check the color codes; then a Message came to the network admin. A couple people were fired or quit one step before it, to encourage the others."

Wow, you've got to be kidding.

Wherever I've worked that has had both NIPR and SIPR, the NIPR was standard blue-case CAT(whatever), while the SIPR has always been red. Precisely to prevent such screwups.

Blogger OneWingedShark August 12, 2018 10:14 AM  

Dirk Manly wrote:Wherever I've worked that has had both NIPR and SIPR, the NIPR was standard blue-case CAT(whatever), while the SIPR has always been red. Precisely to prevent such screwups.
Same here; but I'd heard of just such a screwup at my last job, apparently just a few months before I was hired.

Blogger Dirk Manly August 12, 2018 10:43 AM  

I've heard of color blindness of the form called red-green confusion; i've never heard of red-blue confusion. Is there such a thing?

Blogger InformationMerchant August 12, 2018 2:07 PM  

@82

Yes and those possibilities have possibilities. The element with the atomic number 17 is Chlorine.

I'm disappointed at @55 knowing the Star Trek Q character but not knowing the James Bond character. :P

Blogger John Williams August 12, 2018 2:15 PM  

Iran's regime is being taken out, with clearly a very limited CIA footprint.
Turkey’s government looks like it’s being weakened, severely, too

Blogger OneWingedShark August 12, 2018 3:08 PM  

Dirk Manly wrote:I've heard of color blindness of the form called red-green confusion; i've never heard of red-blue confusion. Is there such a thing?
Apparently it is technically possible; see: here and here.

Jack Amok wrote:H1B, H2B, and illegals really distort the marketplace

The H1B problem may be coming to an end. Our immigration lawyers at work were blunt about the impossibility of getting even an existing H1B transferred, let alone a new one granted, and we're a tech company.

This is good news; thank you.

People are loyal to each other now instead of corporations, at least in the Tech world I'm familiar with. We recognize we're mercenaries, but we're not lone wolves, we form floating teams that dissolve and reform time and time again. As companies go through the now-inevitable layoffs and shutdowns, these teams break up, but then reform in one or two other companies as members get hired and bring in their friends. Or someone gets seed money together for a start-up and does the same.

I push for as much training budget as I can get and put a lot of effort into developing the people who work for me. I expect to work with them again somewhere else, so whether it's in the company's best interests or not, it's in my best interest. It's part of the price the company pays for access to my skills. Besides, smart companies know career development is the best retention strategy for high performers short of handing out bags of gold. When execs start pushing back on development, it's a sign the company has turned dumb and it's time to start looking for a landing spot.

That's awesome; you sound like just the sort of guy I'd like to work with. If you send a message to this handle at gmail, I'll send you a resume from my business account.

Blogger Jack Amok August 12, 2018 8:10 PM  

OneWingedShark, I sent email. Can't promise anything but let's see if there's a match.

Blogger Unknown August 12, 2018 11:15 PM  

That escalated quickly. How fast the Q fans turn on one another.

If Q isn't a psyops, and conservatives are, who's really the true psyops master here?

Blogger Unknown August 12, 2018 11:18 PM  

Also, don't you find it odd that Q is oddly pro Establishment?

Blogger Ominous Cowherd August 13, 2018 1:02 AM  

Unknown wrote:Also, don't you find it odd that Q is oddly pro Establishment?

No. Q is the civnat pro-American establishment tryimg to keep the anti-American globalist establishment from dragging us under. Q wants to clean up the establishmemt in which it lives and breathes.

Blogger OneWingedShark August 13, 2018 8:05 PM  

Jack Amok wrote:OneWingedShark, I sent email. Can't promise anything but let's see if there's a match.
Received, forwarded to my other account, and replied.
Thank you.

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