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Monday, August 06, 2018

What else did you expect?

I am rolling my eyes at the hysterics that have greeted the news that YouTube has banned the Infowars channel in coordination with Apple and Spotify banning its podcasts and Facebook banning its Facebook page.
Paul Joseph Watson✔@PrisonPlanet
The Alex Jones Channel has been permanently DELETED by YouTube. This is a coordinated PURGE. This is political censorship.

Paul Joseph Watson✔@PrisonPlanet
Apple, Spotify, Facebook and now Google (which owns YouTube) - all within 12 hours of each other. A coordinated purge. This is a total abuse of power.
BFD and book-freaking-hoo. When Alex asked me what the next step would be, I told him that they would be deplatforming the Right and attempting to defund it. This was not merely predictable, it was obvious. This is the exact opposite of a surprise. Complaining and crying about it will accomplish precisely nothing.

This is why we have to build our own platforms, as I have been advising for years. This is why you are shortsighted and strategically-challenged if you allow yourself to be dependent in any way on the platforms of your enemy, even if doing so maximizes your profits and is in your immediate short-term interests.

UPDATE: Before anyone starts worrying that I've been banned by Facebook, I deactivated my account myself. I would have deleted it, but the damned DELETE ACCOUNT page would not load no matter which browser I tried. I'll delete it when I get the chance.

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163 Comments:

Blogger Looking Glass August 06, 2018 2:03 PM  

When it's about Power and you're dealing with evil people, you need to be expecting the worst. Sure, all of the Big Tech just committed crimes against InfoWars (blatantly obvious Collusion is blatantly obvious), but that'll take years to play out in the courts. The First Actor principle normally is in force, though InfoWars actually seems to be mostly built off their own website, so they're not in too bad of shape. Others, however, really aren't, and they'll be next.

Blogger #7139 August 06, 2018 2:04 PM  

The saddest words of tongue or pen are Vox Day is right again.

Blogger Looking Glass August 06, 2018 2:04 PM  

Since I can't pass up the meme...

InfoWars got InfoWar'd.

Blogger Triple_Scoop August 06, 2018 2:09 PM  

Well, is there a platform he can move too? Because wherever he goes he will bring a huge audience. Smells like opportunity for somebody.

Blogger Spud August 06, 2018 2:12 PM  

Like usual, this will only grow the InfoWars subscription base. Digital book burning only increases curiosity and leads to mass consumption of its material.

Blogger Josh (the sexiest thing here) August 06, 2018 2:13 PM  

Alex Jones should have already converted his vitamin business into MLM.

Blogger Al K. Annossow August 06, 2018 2:15 PM  

I comes across as a challenge to the legislators who are beginning to complain about social media bias against conservatives: will they or won't they go so far as to defend InfoWars?

Blogger cmbaileytstc August 06, 2018 2:16 PM  

Does this mean that “crazy” Uncle Alex is dangerously close to being correct and they fear him?

Blogger Looking Glass August 06, 2018 2:17 PM  

Josh (the sexiest thing here) wrote:Alex Jones should have already converted his vitamin business into MLM.

Why split the revenue? lol

Triple_Scoop wrote:Well, is there a platform he can move too? Because wherever he goes he will bring a huge audience. Smells like opportunity for somebody.

My understanding is that InfoWars has always driven their traffic to their own webpage, which they run the live streams off of. So many copies show up all over the place that you'll still be able to get all of the video on YouTube without much issue.

Blogger Warunicorn August 06, 2018 2:20 PM  

I like how they claim Hitler's Germany was reborn with Trump being elected...and then turn around themselves and do something Hitler would do. It's projection times infinity.

Not that I'm shocked about this; you could see it coming a mile away, what with them all frustrated with the alt-right. They're desperate at this point.

Blogger Resident Moron™ August 06, 2018 2:24 PM  

There’s going to be casualties. Political cultural financial and physical.

It’s a war.

None of us want to volunteer to be the fuse that gets burned to light the fire, but some of us are going to be. We all need to accept that.

As is their pattern they’re going to try to scare the rest of us into silent submission by persecuting some tall poppies.

Blogger Shimshon August 06, 2018 2:27 PM  

How will the Littlest Chickenhawk excuse this? It's not even a question of if at this point.

Blogger Ledford Ledford August 06, 2018 2:28 PM  

The medium term impact of these purges will be the further and faster un-cucking of the Republican party. Who will tolerate ostensibly right wing candidates who don't fight this?

Blogger VD August 06, 2018 2:30 PM  

How will the Littlest Chickenhawk excuse this? It's not even a question of if at this point.

Excuse it? I'd expect him to celebrate it!

Blogger Noah B The Savage Gardener August 06, 2018 2:31 PM  

This is suicide for the big tech companies. They're just greasing the skids for their own inevitable slide into irrelevance.

Blogger Looking Glass August 06, 2018 2:31 PM  

Ledford Ledford wrote:The medium term impact of these purges will be the further and faster un-cucking of the Republican party. Who will tolerate ostensibly right wing candidates who don't fight this?

Base has already turned on anyone that won't, minus a few State or Local pols that are just "in" for their region. (It helps that the MSM is working over time to never discuss the civil war among the Dems.)

Blogger Dave August 06, 2018 2:32 PM  

This is why you are shortsighted and strategically-challenged if you allow yourself to be dependent in any way on the platforms of your enemy, even if it is in your immediate short-term interests.

Looking at you, Super Chat.

Blogger Shimshon August 06, 2018 2:33 PM  

Looks like Iran also put all its eggs in a platform it doesn't control (JCPOA). Pity.

Blogger Looking Glass August 06, 2018 2:33 PM  

https://twitter.com/benshapiro/status/1026503354166300672

"I was on air. I spent the first 15 minutes of the show stating openly that Apple and Facebook should not have banned @Infowars, even though I think the outlet is a flaming dumpster fire. If you're going to attack me, at least be accurate."


https://twitter.com/DavidAFrench/status/1026515004470648834

"1. Banning entities from social media platforms for violation of vague “hate speech” guidelines is dangerous to free speech;

2. There is a difference between hate speech and actual libel or slander.

3. Bans for the latter are prudent, for the former are subject to abuse."

The Caravan of Cucks have rinse to the occasion and promptly wagged their finger!

Blogger Ferdinand August 06, 2018 2:34 PM  

Problem is, who on the right has deep pockets like Google to run a video platform at a huge loss?

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother August 06, 2018 2:34 PM  

Waiting for app the dumbass Libertarian and Cuckservative quislings to defend Google/Apple/YouTube. MUH PRIVATE PROPERTY IT'S THEIR RIGHT DURRHHURR FUHHURRRR

Blogger Looking Glass August 06, 2018 2:35 PM  

In related news, the Bots are out in force on the topic, on social media. Someone spent a lot of money for the narrative setting to go along with this hit.

Blogger James Dixon August 06, 2018 2:35 PM  

> Well, is there a platform he can move too?

Gab comes to mind. No, they're not perfect, but they're better than the alternatives.

The real concerns aren't Facebook, Twitter, Apple, or Google. The real concerns are things like the Internet registrars, the dns system, the credit companies, and the banks. We may have some major work to do in those areas.

Blogger Looking Glass August 06, 2018 2:36 PM  

Ferdinand wrote:Problem is, who on the right has deep pockets like Google to run a video platform at a huge loss?

YouTube only loses money because they don't charge the people that waste massive amounts of space. They can do that because they're an illegal company. The fact no one has brought Anti-Trust charges against Google over it is the biggest issue.

Blogger Edgar Abbey August 06, 2018 2:36 PM  

This kind of thing will be good in the long run because it will force the Right to build its own platforms. It will be tough and expensive, but it’s going to have to happen if the voices of the Right want to be heard.

Blogger James Dixon August 06, 2018 2:37 PM  

> Problem is, who on the right has deep pockets like Google to run a video platform at a huge loss?

No one. Which is why something like BitChute is probably the way to go.

Blogger Noah B The Savage Gardener August 06, 2018 2:38 PM  

We should build our own platforms but we also need to destroy theirs. The time has come for anti-trust action.

Blogger Looking Glass August 06, 2018 2:41 PM  

I made the mistake of reading the responses to the Cucks twitter feed. I know most of them are bots, but, yeah, the cucks are such degenerate wastes of space.

Blogger Ledford Ledford August 06, 2018 2:41 PM  

Ben Shapiro will say:
They shouldn't ban Jones, though he's bad.
They have the right to ban Jones.

He will oppose any concrete action to punish social media companies, beyond calling them "hypocrites!"

He will never be banned, which tells you all you need to know.

Blogger Peaceful Poster August 06, 2018 2:48 PM  

@17 Dave -Looking at you, Super Chat.

Did you catch the part of the JF interview in which he admitted that Super Chat was his main source of income? VD replied that he hadn't even bothered to turn on Super Chat!

Blogger Noah B The Savage Gardener August 06, 2018 2:49 PM  

Irony: Google, Facebook, and Apple are all big net neutrality supporters.

One gets the distinct impression that they didn't expect the rules to apply to them.

Blogger Reasonably Honest August 06, 2018 2:51 PM  

Stuff like this does get many normal people riled up because it's an open attack of the big guy vs. the little guy though, so it will increase political pressure on DC to Do Something. Or at least these things, regardless of their cold strategic sense, give the GE and his host more ammunition to justify whatever it is they decide to do about this deplatforming.

It also adds more room for policy and, potentially, legal arguments for anti-trust and similar legal and regulatory action against the Big Tech scum. So there's that.

Blogger tz August 06, 2018 2:54 PM  

They won't stop.
First it was those who didn't disavow Charlottesville or were there. Or maybe Milo which scared the alt-lite.
Now AJ and Infowars.
They will continue.

The famous poem "When they came for the Trade Unionists, I didn't speak up because I was not a Trade Unionist" has been updated so now you have to disavow the trade unionists, even a "I support their right to exist" won't work, which is what you usually get. I wonder what (((Benji))) will say.

The horror is at this point speaking up is futile even if you haven't already been deplatformed.

We are at the point where the 2nd Amendment is required.

Ask Alt-Lite Gavin McInnes' "Proud Boys" about Portland.

They hate you and want you dead - and to genocide every European and it is now clear and in the open. Right now it is virtual work and starvation camps. What happens when the left gets impatient?

The deplatforming is designed to instill fear, uncertainty and doubt. It should instill a righteous indignation, and refusal to "play by the rules" they ignore.

Yet, using Brave or installing an ad-block would hit Google and Facebook where it hurts, but won't happen.

Rush Limbaugh loves Apple and his iPhone. I wonder how long until his app is considered too offensive for the Apple App Store and is removed?

I remember the Jews in Germany trying to be "better Germans" - they were still killed. They will come for the alt-lite and even anyone who is not the fake opposition.

Blogger Bultz August 06, 2018 2:54 PM  

Infowars must have known this day would come. If they didn't, they deserve to be taken down for complete stupidity. Having said that, the next step will be targeting payment processors and cancelling their ability to take payment so maybe they knew it was coming and would try and take advantage of the reaction

Blogger Shimshon August 06, 2018 2:57 PM  

I would like to think it's only a matter of time before Trump goes after these obviously and openly colluding platforms. IANAL. Can RICO be applied? That seems much more powerful than an antitrust action.

Blogger tz August 06, 2018 2:58 PM  

To requote the Cuck problem:

“When you are unwilling to defend your right to your own lives, then you are like mice trying to ‘negotiate’ with owls. You regard their ways as ‘wrong.’ They regard you as dinner.” – Terry Goodkind.

Blogger Colin Flaherty's baby momma August 06, 2018 2:58 PM  

What is the best way to follow Vox Day when he gets banned?

Alex Jones was fashioned to capture people who see thru the Propaganda Press and lead them into a dead end obsession with "Nazis who run the NWO" (whose agenda is for some reason totally counter to Nazi/Hitler ideology). And also to make these same 'conspiracy theorists' who don't believe the Lying Press look like delusional lunatics, by association.

Their problem is the more the Narrative diverges from truth, the less they can afford any doubt or dissension.

Jones admitted in his early days some of the crimes, terrorism, and corruption caused by Israel/jews ... to more recently "Arabs own Hollywood" ... to his latest "the Chinese ChiComs own MSM & politicks" while he praises the New Dark Americans who are wonderful innocent victims, brainmaimed to hate America & Whites by Dems R Real Racists, as he simultaneously derides White people with comments about how Whites are to blame for racism, SJWs, antifa, perversions, etc.

Blogger The Deplorable Podunk Ken Ramsey August 06, 2018 2:58 PM  

I don't worry about Alex. He's ready for the bombs to start falling. You can pick up InfoWars on shortwave.

Blogger Salt August 06, 2018 3:02 PM  

Alex has had https://www.infowars.com/ for quite some time. He's never not been not ready for this. He's also on world wide high freq radio. He's just not on the darling left's Youtube anymore.

Blogger Colin Flaherty's baby momma August 06, 2018 3:05 PM  

Michael Scheuer, a much better man than Jones, recently had his website taken down.
Is there anybody who describes it better?

Dr. Michael Scheuer: It's All Coming Unravelled
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kO9y-wmetLc

Dr. Michael Scheuer Explains Why The "Thought Police" at GoDaddy Took His Website Down &....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTw_DuakYZQ

Blogger Shimshon August 06, 2018 3:06 PM  

From Justin Raimondo:

Two more casualties of the Twitter purge of antiwar voices: @ScottHortonShow, the new editorial director of http://Antiwar.com , and @DanielLMcAdams, director of the Ron Paul Institute.

The libertardians no doubt stand with Ben.

Blogger tublecane August 06, 2018 3:08 PM  

Why did Silicon Valley do this all at once, I wonder. That removes the opportunity to pretend it was a spontaneous reaction to some violation of their code. And obviously there's nothing in it for them to advertise the fact that the coordinate with eachother (or are coordinated together under a higher authority).

It's like they're rubbing our faces in it.

Blogger Random #57 August 06, 2018 3:12 PM  

@42 tublecane

Why did Silicon Valley do this all at once, I wonder.

They're social justice converged institutions, herd behavior (in doing something they wanted to do anyway) is the most likely explanation.

Blogger allyn71 August 06, 2018 3:13 PM  

It's like they're rubbing our faces in it

They are

Blogger Random #57 August 06, 2018 3:16 PM  

@38 The Deplorable Podunk Ken Ramsey and @39 Salt:

Make Shortwave Great Again!

With the Internet getting so big, almost all programming for North American and the US has been dropped, but this is one signal that would be hard to stop. Infowars can even sell radios on their website, assuming it doesn't get taken down.

Blogger Bultz August 06, 2018 3:17 PM  

It is face rubbing, but it is also a bit of panic. This is an extreme measure to ban across so many platforums simultaneously, and done so without understanding how big the reaction to it is going to be. Perhaps knowing that these platforms are too big to fail has given them the arrogance to think they will be able to get away with this, but they just pissed off a lot of people at once - infowars had a big following - and if an alternative grows as a result and that gets targeted, resentment is only going to grow

They've tried winning ideologically, now it's the nuclear option

Blogger Edgar Abbey August 06, 2018 3:22 PM  

I assumed they did it all at once to limit the news to one cycle.

Blogger Latigo3 August 06, 2018 3:26 PM  

Alex Jones has been around a long time, I don't see him getting hurt by this. Interesting that stuff like this is happening as all of the Pedo stuff from Hollywood is blowing up.

Blogger Colin Flaherty's baby momma August 06, 2018 3:28 PM  

@42 tublcane,
They are preparing a big attack, that's why they have been pushing so hard to disarm, disempower, dispossess the People.
Mass executions are a regular occurrence all over the world. People want to pretend it can't happen anymore, not here.

They were caught off guard, after believing they had everything under control, with the proles minds locked into an illusory worldview of Diverse pleasure/attention-seeking perversions, Mammon materialism, celebrity idolization, framed debate, spiritual emptiness... all based on malicious lies, fairly tales, and staged/scripted events presented as Reality.

Blogger Garuna August 06, 2018 3:30 PM  

"@BenShapiro and his staff have reportedly called radio affiliates and pressed them to drop @RealAlexJones over the past year."

https://twitter.com/ali/status/1026521520275898369

Ben Shapiro really is a filthy lil' rat. I hope people like him are hanged when things get violent.

Blogger doctrev August 06, 2018 3:31 PM  

Is the left just composed of complete fucking retards? I assumed Harvard produced competent businesspeople, but I'm clearly wrong! Someone like Alex Jones doesn't rely on Spotify or Youtube to "recommend" him to his audiences. If anything, the harder governments crack down on him, the more it vindicates his speech. Lately he's been on a real Vox Day kick, you just have to listen to the guest spots to hear the admiration, and this will only push them closer together.

I'd be lying if I said I cared. This just provides ammunition for President Trump, or whoever comes after, to seize electronic infrastructure and algorithms without compensation.

Blogger Garuna August 06, 2018 3:36 PM  

The God Emperor is considering some trust-busting action and regulations for the tech-monopolies. Before, he was uninformed about what was going on. But after some Republican politicians were shadow-banned on Twitter recently, people finally told him what the tech giants were doing. He has asked for a full-report on the situation and then he will take some concrete action to fix it.

This is from Ali Alexander. He's a part of Cernovich's circle. I consider him extremely credible. He is a well-connected political operative. He has an excellent track record of predicting things. And he was also responsible for adding "End Chain Migration" to Trump's immigration reform plan.

Blogger Other Josh August 06, 2018 3:36 PM  

Yes, this is coordinated. Why right now, in August of 2018? It's simple. Mid-term elections are 3 months away. Alex Jones had incredible impact in the 2016 presidential election... so much so, I feel very safe saying "If Infowars didn't exist, Hillary Clinton would be president right now." So, the left, the establishment is trying to destroy his influence on the midterm elections.

Blogger Other Josh August 06, 2018 3:39 PM  

By the way, the law of unintended consequences is in full play with this one. The left is trying to hurt Infowars. This will only make Alex's current supporters more loyal, and will ultimately grow his audience.

For the Alt-right, this will be a win-win.

Blogger JustBob August 06, 2018 3:40 PM  

@Vox

You're right, controlling the platform is more antifragile (although not completely). Hopefully, raising a stink will draw attention and result in limiting the Tech tyrants power.

Youtube has also terminated the Ron Gibson channel (which provided Alex Jones streams). But, I'm glad to see new channels pop-up with live streams.

Blogger Daniel Paul Grech Pereira August 06, 2018 3:40 PM  

*yawn*

About time.

Blogger Thumos August 06, 2018 3:49 PM  

Creating our own platforms isn't enough yet. The next problem would be that all the banks/payment processors would collude likewise.

Blogger VD August 06, 2018 3:52 PM  

What is the best way to follow Vox Day when he gets banned?

Subscribe to one of the email lists. We already have alternative sites fully operational. It's up-to-date to literally this post.

Blogger VD August 06, 2018 3:52 PM  

The next problem would be that all the banks/payment processors would collude likewise.

Plenty of people have the resources to start a bank and a payment processor. They just have to do it.

Blogger Damelon Brinn August 06, 2018 4:01 PM  

That's why they've held off this long. They know each time they deplatform someone, there's more pressure to create alternatives. Once those exist, their control is gone. But they were bound to decide they had to do it at some point, as they saw themselves losing ground on their own platforms.

It could be they figure three months is long enough to affect the election, but a short enough time that the Right won't be able to regroup fully using alternative communications methods in time for the election.

Blogger Avalanche August 06, 2018 4:02 PM  

@2 "The saddest words of tongue or pen are Vox Day is right again."

Then why are we all cheering and laughing?

Blogger Triple_Scoop August 06, 2018 4:05 PM  

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Blogger YIH August 06, 2018 4:13 PM  

There's no excuse for Jones. Trolls have gotten both individual videos and his whole YouTube channel taken down on bogus DCMA (copyright) claims and has had to battle to get them restored. The reason he kept using it was it was cheaper than hosting the audio stream/podcasts on infowars.
Penny wise and pound foolish as I see it.

Blogger James Dixon August 06, 2018 4:17 PM  

> Yet, using Brave or installing an ad-block would hit Google and Facebook where it hurts, but won't happen.

It is happening. Lots of normals are now using adblockers. Give it time.

> Plenty of people have the resources to start a bank and a payment processor. They just have to do it.

Money, yes. Knowledge probably not. But that's fixable with a simple crowd sourcing campaign by someone who is reputable and does have the knowledge.

You know, Discover Card could make a killing by embracing the right and becoming their default credit card. They would probably eventually overtake Visa.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother August 06, 2018 4:27 PM  

Avalanche wrote:@2 "The saddest words of tongue or pen are Vox Day is right again."

Then why are we all cheering and laughing?


Who, whom

Blogger Mr. Smith August 06, 2018 4:29 PM  

Amen! Preach it brother Stg58!

Blogger Some Guy August 06, 2018 4:44 PM  

VD, knowing what you know biblically, do you think that is even feasible?

Blogger Solaire Of Astora August 06, 2018 4:54 PM  

The right spends way too much time complaining about and pointing out leftist hypocrisy and crying for sympathy when Antifa attacks them. Who do they think they're convincing? The lines are drawn and everyone already knows these things. But instead of doing anything proactive they sit there and complain driving traffic to the websites of their enemies. Every time something like this happens a perusal of right wing Twitter will get you thousands of instances of 'let that sink in' and 'what if you replaced the word white with another race'. It's unbelievable how impotent these people can be.

Blogger pyrrhus August 06, 2018 4:57 PM  

I would think that the threat, or better yet, filing of an antitrust suit would discourage this kind of behavior. It's proof positive of too much market power....As to the banking issues, the Treasury and FDIc already have regulations that could be used to stop that...But Trump is an idiot about legal matters, as we have seen.

Blogger weka August 06, 2018 5:02 PM  

Bitchute and gab. Or idka. But always have your backups. You can set up another WordPress or even a blogspot site somewhere else.

Blogger Anno Ruse August 06, 2018 5:11 PM  

"Plenty of people have the resources to start a bank and a payment processor. They just have to do it."

Might be something you could do, Vox, if you lived in America. No skin in the game. No skin in the game. No skin in the game.

Blogger Mark Stoval August 06, 2018 5:11 PM  

I would like to see anti-trust suits against these large tech giants, but I have another question on them.

Now mind you that the question is only research for a short story idea that I have and I am not asking anyone to do anything illegal. Goodness sake no.

What would it take to physically destroy Facebook or Twitter? Certainly destroying their buildings with all those SJWs inside would do it, and so would taking out all server farms. If a military unit wanted to stop Twitter in its tracks, how would they get that mission done?

Remember, only for research purposes you see.

Blogger Centurion Revolt August 06, 2018 5:21 PM  

Steve Forbes? Donald Trump? There are more than a few rightwing billionaires. Unfortunately most of them are globalists, but not all. But you still have to hire tech help which might be the biggest challenge of them all.

Blogger Longtime Lurker August 06, 2018 5:26 PM  

Silicon Valley remains furiously pissed off at the ALT RIGHT and Fellow Travelers for camping on THEIR social media platforms and meming the crap out Hillary and the Dems in 2016.

No way in hell Silicon Valley makes that same mistake twice. It might make other, bigger mistakes in the meantime, but it ain't gonna let insurgent-minded right wingers repeat '16, at least not on their platforms.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash August 06, 2018 5:27 PM  

Mark Stoval wrote:If a military unit wanted to stop Twitter in its tracks, how would they get that mission done?


Code injection: Corrupt the data in a non-obvious way that accelerates over time. By the time the shut it down, threw out a couple of weeks of data and brought it back up, an awful lot of people would have been weaned off of it.

amplification: accelerate the banning/shadow banning/etc to the point that it's actually impacting everybody. Given Twitter's dedication to non-support, this could kill it faster.

Either way, the key would be to corrupt the user experience, and let normies experience the capricious and arbitrary way that twitter does business. The worst outcome for Twitter would be for people to abandon the platform. Even a small quarterly drop would doom their stock and lead to immediate change in the CEO office.

Blogger DJT August 06, 2018 5:34 PM  

This is why we have to build our own platforms, as I have been advising for years.

That is fine in theory, but the mobile app industry is controlled by Apple and Google. How would InfoWars overcome that? Should content creators be expected to create their own video platforms, payment processors, ISPs, domain registrars, etc?

Drumming up enough normie support to force the Internet to play fair like the electric and phone companies is a more realistic option than creating a parallel ecosystem from scratch.

Blogger Noah B The Savage Gardener August 06, 2018 5:36 PM  

"If a military unit wanted to stop Twitter in its tracks, how would they get that mission done?"

All the government would need to do is seize their domain name and freeze their assets. No need to physically seize or destroy servers if they can't pay their utility bills and personnel costs.

Blogger D. August 06, 2018 5:39 PM  

May be of interest:

How to permanently DELETE Your Facebook Account – 2018 Update

https://www.theburningplatform.com/2018/08/06/how-to-permanently-delete-your-facebook-account-2018-update/#more-180970

Blogger Quicksilver75 August 06, 2018 5:40 PM  

Bitchute is peer to peer and there are legit concerns that it allows privacy violations by easy 3rd party identification of VPNs. Vidme & Pewtube are gone and GabTV is very slow, unreliable. We need somebody to step forward to eitherimprove Bitchute or offer a brand new platform. Paypal & Stripe also being converged suggest that even major banks, VISA, Mastercard could fall soon to CultMarx subversion

Blogger John Calla August 06, 2018 5:44 PM  

@74

I think you basically nailed it. The people at reddit are still furious that /r/The_Donald is allowed on the site. The right has been able to weaponize the tools that the left own and wield them so effectively against TPTB. The left is trying to retaliate with a combination of public ostracism and censorship.

Blogger Chris McCullough August 06, 2018 5:49 PM  

Who was the genius that thought publicly engaging in conspiracy to eliminate a conspiracy theorist was a good idea?

Blogger LP999-16 August 06, 2018 5:52 PM  

Boohooing makes for terribly boring radio.

Vox, exactly, Facebook, often just DOESN'T work, its junk, happy to see it fail some more.

Haha, Jack of Twitter will testify before Congress.

Blogger Longtime Lurker August 06, 2018 5:53 PM  

@80: "The right has been able to weaponize the tools that the left own and wield them so effectively against TPTB."

And because of that success, Silicon Valley execs now have more in common with Captain Ahab than they do with Sun Tzu.

Blogger Noah B The Savage Gardener August 06, 2018 5:53 PM  

@79 Striking back at Google and Facebook directly may be somewhat difficult, but companies like banks and telecom providers are extremely vulnerable. If a significant number of people simply stop paying their bills in protest, those companies have had it.

Blogger Colin Flaherty's baby momma August 06, 2018 6:12 PM  

Chris McCullough wrote:Who was the genius that thought publicly engaging in conspiracy to eliminate a conspiracy theorist was a good idea?

Cass Sunstein, member of the Chosen Tribe, and Obama advisor.
co-authored a 2008 paper with Adrian Vermeule, titled "Conspiracy Theories," dealing with the risks and possible government responses to conspiracy theories resulting from "cascades" of faulty information within groups that may ultimately lead to violence.
They go on to propose that, "the best response consists in cognitive infiltration of extremist groups",[35] where they suggest, among other tactics, "Government agents (and their allies) might enter chat rooms, online social networks, or even real-space groups and attempt to undermine percolating conspiracy theories by raising doubts about their factual premises, causal logic or implications for political action."[35]

Blogger Mark Stoval August 06, 2018 6:13 PM  

@77

Yes, I agree that the government could shut anyone down without much trouble.

I was thinking, and communicated it poorly, about a rouge unit or some group of dread ilk deciding to take down Twitter. I said a military unit, thinking of a small group of determined men with various skills.

I think Snidely Whiplash @75 had a great plan, that is if such things are really possible. It would certainly make a good story.

Blogger John D Alden August 06, 2018 6:24 PM  

@76 DJT

That is fine in theory, but the mobile app industry is controlled by Apple and Google. How would InfoWars overcome that?

Make a mobile-friendly web app. It's just not that hard to do. In fact it's substantially easier than making native apps since it's about 98% cross-platform by default and you don't have to dick around with the native development environments.

You can get excellent performance out of a web app if you don't build it on a halfassed crufty jQuery-heavy framework with a Node.js backend. Web apps don't have to be slow. Most web programmers are just stupendously awful at their jobs.

Should content creators be expected to create their own video platforms, payment processors, ISPs, domain registrars, etc?

ISPs not so much but everything else? Yes. If those efforts had started when Daily Stormer got booted from the internet almost a year ago they'd be done by now.

Instead, people can't even be bothered to move their blogs off blogspot, wordpress, or other declared-enemy hosts like GoDaddy, which is bare bones risk mitigation in the circumstances. And I seriously doubt even 1% of the right wing people on those platforms have a backup plan in place, let alone live failovers like Vox has.

It's crystal clear at this point that hardly anybody on the right takes the threat of being deplatformed seriously. I suppose most people are convinced that it just won't happen to them.

Blogger Robert What? August 06, 2018 6:27 PM  

This started with the Daily Stormer. They banned a completely legal web site from the internet (although it has reappeared under a number of different HLDs). Almost no one pushed back. Almost no one spoke up. Certainly not Alex Jones. As a result the PTB have grown even bolder. Slowly moving down towards even the most tepidly right wing sites.

Blogger Matthew August 06, 2018 6:27 PM  

Spooner, take your meds.

Blogger Lance E August 06, 2018 6:30 PM  

These transnational tech companies have dozens, sometimes hundreds of offices. The idea of a commando assault sounds pretty wack to me.

Twitter is probably less expansive than the others... and also the least important.

Blogger Hammerli280 August 06, 2018 6:32 PM  

James Dixon raises a good point. There's a business opportunity here. YouTube, in particular, has been harassing a lot of people (hey, it's Google. BE EVIL). Everything from firearm videos to ASMR.

Remember, we're dealing with people who have the sort of ego associated with James Bond movie villains. They aren't really introspective.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan August 06, 2018 6:33 PM  

Maybe in a pot boils over deplatforming effort the right would actually meet up in meatspace instead.

Blogger VD August 06, 2018 6:33 PM  

Almost no one pushed back. Almost no one spoke up.

Why are you whining about that here, of all places. I'm one of the very few who did, despite my contempt for Anglin.

So why the fuck are you saying that HERE rather than at all those other places?

Blogger VD August 06, 2018 6:35 PM  

How would InfoWars overcome that?

Make and distribute their own app. It's not hard. Every freaking game company did it at one point or another.

Should content creators be expected to create their own video platforms, payment processors, ISPs, domain registrars, etc?

If you're as big as Infowars, yes. Look what our community has already done with a tiny fraction of the resources.

Blogger Pierre Truc August 06, 2018 6:35 PM  

VD> I deactivated my account myself. I would have deleted it, but the damned DELETE ACCOUNT page would not load no matter which browser I tried.

It's next to the "delete my CIA file" button.

Blogger John Calla August 06, 2018 6:40 PM  

@88

Agreed that the DS thing was primarily a trial balloon that flew tremendously. Along a similar vein, the NRA claims they're about to be driven out of business by a similar form of "deplatforming", albeit financial. Wouldn't that be interesting if the Left gets that scalp?

@91

I don't think there's much of a business opportunity in a YouTube replacement. It's a huge money sink and viewers don't want to pay for content and advertisers will be told not to advertise on alternative platforms.

Blogger Damelon Brinn August 06, 2018 7:11 PM  

@74, Yes. Why would someone like Zuckerberg, who has poured a bunch of his own money into his open borders foundation, allow the system he controls to be used against his goals? The only reason they didn't delete every pro-Trump account out of spite the day after the election was that they feared making things worse. They can't steer the narrative if they can't keep their middle-of-the-road users, and they'll start losing those if they can't maintain a critical mass of their friends. That would be bad for business, but more importantly for the true believers, it would be bad for control.

Blogger Mr. Smith August 06, 2018 7:15 PM  

Now that net neutrality is gone, we have the first test; Will ISPs block the infowars.com website? I’m sure they will.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd August 06, 2018 7:27 PM  

John Calla wrote:Along a similar vein, the NRA claims they're about to be driven out of business by a similar form of "deplatforming", albeit financial. Wouldn't that be interesting if the Left gets that scalp?

The NRA is very much Fake Right/Controlled Opposition. The Left will be very unhappy if the NRA folds and the normie gun owners flock to GOA and Zelman Partisans.

Blogger LP999-16 August 06, 2018 7:36 PM  

Hagmann's Report on youtube tonight stated that 93% of conservative content was removed?! Really?

Blogger Scott August 06, 2018 7:55 PM  

The next problem would be that all the banks/payment processors would collude likewise.

There's always a follow-on problem. Really the only solution is the final solution.

Blogger Doktor Jeep August 06, 2018 7:58 PM  

They are doing it to push the needle for the midterms.
But it's easy to avoid: just vote against all women, jewish sounding names,foreigners, lefists/liberals, and any blacks that are not die-hard hotep nationalists.

Blogger Al Du Clur August 06, 2018 8:04 PM  

Being willing to hurt your bottom line to further the cultural wars gives SJW a lot more power than those to the right of them. Conservatives, like at Papa John's, prioritize making money so they immediately panic in a controversy. Bye bye to the founder. That doesn't happen to the SJW because they will, unless the financial roof is falling down, use a crisis to virtue signal to their peers.

There is of course a big business opportunity to set up our own banks and payment processing systems but it likely won't happen or, if it does, be effective. It is too complex and costly for our side. There will be too many opportunities to panic and conservative consumers won't prioritize doing business with a company that is sympathetic to them. The alt right is likely too small to support a financial system on its own.

Yes, the alt right is inevitable but so is the left winning the cultural war, at least in the near term.

Blogger Jack August 06, 2018 8:29 PM  

What are the odds that the God Emperor will use this - or something else like it down the road - to push for nationalization of social media?

Blogger Some Guy August 06, 2018 8:41 PM  

The answer is very simple. Let it run its course. The disease will either die or kill the host. When you are sick, the fever is a good thing even though it’s uncomfortable.

Blogger James Dixon August 06, 2018 8:54 PM  

> ...but the mobile app industry is controlled by Apple and Google.

There are several competing app stores for Android and I've heard there are a couple for iOS, though I've never verified it.

Blogger James Dixon August 06, 2018 8:56 PM  

> The alt right is likely too small to support a financial system on its own.

Almost 1/4 of a million dollars from Alt*Hero backers alone says you're wrong.

Blogger Al Du Clur August 06, 2018 9:19 PM  

"Almost 1/4 of a million dollars from Alt*Hero backers alone says you're wrong"

That is a tiny drop in the financial bucket. Will need to start an entire parallel financial industry for this to work on all sizes of transactions in the corporate and consumer market.

Blogger Al Du Clur August 06, 2018 9:32 PM  

That AJ was taken down by all the big social media players (except Twitter so far) is a double edged sword for us. Helps the average republican more easily see what is happening. At the same time, it is an impressive display of solidarity on the left. They work in unison while the right thrives on infighting. (((Financial elite))), tech oligarchs, media, financial companies, street thugs, the courts and you name it work against their agreed upon enemies.

Over on the right, there is an ongoing soap opera of daily infighting and virtue signalling against each other with the inability to come together on anything post Trump's victory. Conservative Inc is still trying to show they aren't bigots. The alt light still wants to show they aren't the alt right. The alt right wants to be small and pure.

Given the right's inability to coalesce and fight a war, the only hope I see in this is if Trump's relationship with AJ will prompt him to sick Ajit Pai on the tech oligarchs. Sessions sure won't do it.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash August 06, 2018 10:03 PM  

When you are sick, the fever is a good thing even though it’s uncomfortable.
Unless the fever itself kills you.

Blogger Meimou August 06, 2018 10:36 PM  

You have to go back

Blogger Mandos August 06, 2018 10:39 PM  

Social media are merely a first step.

ISPs would be the logical next step. Banks, too. Dear Mr. Jones, we regret to inform you that your views do not reflect our values of an open society, therefore we will discontinue your account at the end of the month.

Ultimately, they want any evidence of wrongthink to be grounds for physically banning you from the system. And as always, people who think of themselves as redpilled won't accept this reality until it's literally shoved down their throats.

Building parallel institutions for everything is a matter of survival at this point. And you know what the best part is? It is actually healthy. The best service we can offer to our civilization is to build institutions which purpose is explicitly to be an alternative to convergence.

Blogger Dirk Manly August 06, 2018 10:44 PM  

What I don't get...

How can you name your very BUSINESS "Info Wars" and not anticipate that Information Warfare tactics can and WILL be used against you?

Blogger IAM Spartacus August 06, 2018 10:49 PM  

Seriously need to just go Hydra on them. Alex should post his video to torrent and encourage all his fans to re-post it on Facebook, youtube, etc.

Then watchs the heads spin.
Sure they would delete some of us, then maybe all of us. But that would just show all the ridiculousness of it all.

Blogger Dirk Manly August 06, 2018 10:50 PM  

@20

"Problem is, who on the right has deep pockets like Google to run a video platform at a huge loss?"

Whoever gets all that money that is being funneled into them via Clowns In America.

Blogger Dire Badger August 06, 2018 10:54 PM  

I am looking forward to a court decision on this case. If free speech is upheld, it becomes a good bludgeon to use on the left. If censorship is upheld, I get to write "No fags, commies, niggers, or kikes" on my place of business.

Blogger Dirk Manly August 06, 2018 10:57 PM  

@33

"I remember the Jews in Germany trying to be "better Germans" - they were still killed. They will come for the alt-lite and even anyone who is not the fake opposition."

Did the Alt-Right ever rape the the U.S. or any other nation financially, militarily, and culturally the way the (((Weimar Republic))) had done to Germany, and the (((Russian Communist Party))) had done to Russia?

Therein lies the difference.

Don't compare whales and oranges.

Blogger HalibetLector August 06, 2018 11:07 PM  

Mandos wrote:Social media are merely a first step.

ISPs would be the logical next step.


You've got that backwards. ISPs and ICANN were censoring sites long before social media was even invented. ISPs are largely thankful this battle has moved upstream so they don't have to deal with it as much. The very nature of the internet and the www make it hard for any one entity or small group of entities to have complete control, but that doesn't mean they aren't trying (ie: with SSL certs and DNS registrars).

Blogger DonReynolds August 06, 2018 11:10 PM  

Alex Jones was by no measure the "worst" or the "most hate filled" and that was why he was targeted by the Tech Bullies.
The point being, if they can target Alex Jones, then they can target anybody.

By my own estimation, the reason for the ban was NOT domestic. The source of the ban was European, not American. The Leftist governments (and by extension the EU) have been having duck fits over American "conservative" web sites leaking some of the unpleasant news about Muslim grooming, migrant crime, and the invasion of Europe by their neighbors. I noticed recently what was probably the biggest internet fine in history levied by the Europeans on Google for failing to censor the "hate" content on their webspace. In Europe, they actually put people in prison for complaining (or noticing) Muslim crime and terrorism and not liking it.

One more thing to this story. I have noticed for years that the best news coverage of race crime in the USA has been in the British press and RT (Russia Today). They are not permitted to report on race crimes in their own country but no one seems to mind if they report on the USA. Likewise, the American webspace and media are very good at reporting the migrant invasion and crime wave in Europe, but ignore or refuse to cover similar news stories that occur in the US. Perhaps, the leftist governments around the world do not want their own dirty laundry hung out in public but have no problem when the reporting is about societies on another continent.

Blogger DonReynolds August 06, 2018 11:23 PM  

Jack wrote:What are the odds that the God Emperor will use this - or something else like it down the road - to push for nationalization of social media?

It is not necessary to nationalize the Tech Giants nor would that be the historic experience in this country. What the Federal government COULD do is declare Google and Facebook and Twitter and etc to be utilities.

Publicly-owned utilities are largely regulated by their own government bodies, but most utilities are investor-owned and private, but closely regulated regarding consumer protection and levels of service. This might fit the bill.

Blogger IAM Spartacus August 06, 2018 11:25 PM  

I am just waiting to see of a court will retract digital rights protections from Google, FB and co. Their original claim was they had no way to police what people were posting, yet obviously they are showing their capability. Seems they either need to be removed from Title 2 or be forced to allow access.

Blogger Robert Divinity August 06, 2018 11:34 PM  


Two more casualties of the Twitter purge of antiwar voices: @ScottHortonShow, the new editorial director of http://Antiwar.com , and @DanielLMcAdams, director of the Ron Paul Institute.


Interesting. The Deep State really invested in a proxy war with Russia so it doesn't anyone piping up when it tries to recoup some of its coin. People aren't going to get all rah-rah now that the man behind the curtain has been exposed, though, even if all media dissent is stifled.

Blogger nswhorse August 06, 2018 11:41 PM  

Can the left ultimately cut off our access to the internet altogether, either by converging all the ISPs or by somehow getting control over the infrastructure itself? I have no doubt they'll attempt this, but can they succeed, and if so, what would be the response?

Blogger Lazarus August 06, 2018 11:44 PM  

The Tech Giants know that regulation is coming. They are going full retard for the midterms, because they bought the Liberal lie that the social media won the election for Trump, so they are going all in to stop what was not the problem in the first place.

These people are stupid.

All that is needed is free and fair vote counting and the USA stays center-right forever.

Blogger Mandos August 06, 2018 11:50 PM  

It will move downstream again with calls to physically remove wrongthinkers from the Internet altogether by denying them access, as in the ability to simply purchase an internet connection.

And it's not just Internet. As long as the Left gets away with it, deplatforming will keep spreading as the correct way to address wrongthink.

Blogger Mandos August 06, 2018 11:59 PM  

In case it's not clear enough:

https://twitter.com/ChrisMurphyCT/status/1026580187784404994?s=19

The survival of our democracy depends on deplatforming "hate".

These are the words of a sitting Democratic Senator.

Blogger Resident Moron™ August 07, 2018 12:02 AM  

All that is needed is free and fair vote counting and the USA stays center-right forever.

And the Wall.

And they have to go back.

Blogger Robert Divinity August 07, 2018 12:06 AM  

The Left remains mortified that in the Eighties talk radio, post-Red Lion, broke its information monopoly. To a degree that did happen, too. As cuckish as Limbaugh and company are/were, they did breach the wall. The communist reaction then was just as unhinged as it is now with boycotts against advertisers and stations and so forth.

It didn't work, and won't again if Vox's advice is heeded. The stakes are higher now because the government and the culture are unabashedly totalitarian.

Blogger Robert Divinity August 07, 2018 12:09 AM  

125:

It will move downstream again with calls to physically remove wrongthinkers from the Internet altogether by denying them access, as in the ability to simply purchase an internet connection

You could have stopped after "wrongthinkers."

Blogger Dirk Manly August 07, 2018 12:10 AM  


@72

"What would it take to physically destroy Facebook or Twitter? Certainly destroying their buildings with all those SJWs inside would do it, and so would taking out all server farms. If a military unit wanted to stop Twitter in its tracks, how would they get that mission done?

Remember, only for research purposes you see."

Well, the easiest way is like what was done to David Koresh and friends in Waco, Texas.

However, why waste the buildings and the equipment? Those aren't the problem -- the problem is the PEOPLE inside those buildings misusing all of that equipment.

Rule 0: EVERYBODY wears gloves. Everything that has been touched before (like if you bought it at the store, and of course, you're not going to wear gloves while making a purchase at the cash register) is to be sprayed down with Brake Parts Cleaner -- to completely remove ALL oil, and therefore, ALL FINGERPRINTS. DO NOT LEAVE FINGERPRINTS.
ALL SHOES should have the bottoms covered with roughly (but not perfectly) outline-conforming cardboard. Wrap in plastic bags (preferably dark/black in color) and wrap with fiberglass reinforced tape, then wrap that with black tape. Make the shoes look like you'r just wearing black shoes when seen from a distance.
Cut hair reasonably short, and then EVERYONE wears hats at all times. Strands of hair release out of the follicles on a regular basis, each follicle on it's own schedule. DO NOT LEAVE HAIR at the scene. DO NOT LEAVE FINGERPRINTS. DO NOT LEAVE LOTS OF SKIN CELLS ATTRIBUTABLE THE ATTACKERS.


1. Cut COMMUNICATIONS Strike that ... they have cell phones.
1a You're going to have to work quickly. Probably the best thing to do is to have teams form a perimeter at least a mile away from the facility equiped with spike-strips to take out emergency vehicles. COP CARS might have run-flat tires, but I doubt that the ambulances and fire department vehicles would have run-flats.

1b. Learn from Brevik. Create a diversion by first striking some REALLY high-value location with a feint. VBIED (Vehicle Born IED) causes chaos. Attracts cops, firemen, and ambulances. Follow-up explosions from smaller IEDs placed underneath vehicles, spaced, say, 15-20 minutes apart) can cause HOURS of hilarity. Leave a sniper behind. If the cops bring out a counter-IED robot, shoot the operator. This is best done using hand-loaded ammunition, with a low enough charge to keep the bullet at sub-sonic speeds. This lowers the sniper's sound signature.
A sniper on an open rooftop or a sniper in a tree is going to die in place. Every TV station in the country, and all of the "news/traffic" radio stations have their own helicopters -- so your local police don't need one.

Blogger Dirk Manly August 07, 2018 12:12 AM  


2. Pre-emplace riflemen with AMPLE amounts of ammunition to cover every fire exit. If you can, handload the ammo for subsonic velocities. This reduces the attention-getting noise that brings cops. Hopefully, they (and 911) are all hyper-focused on the diversion, but don't press your luck.

Alternative -- barricade each fire exit. The easiest way is through the use of vehicles parked right against the door. Anybody who sticks his head out, destroy said head with a baseball bat. If you want them to really feel pain, get MACE spray (aka "riot control agent CN") and spray them in the face. 1/4 second shot from 2-3 foot distance will bring instant pain. Bonus if you can find 10% pepper spray/90% Tear Gas (aka "riot control agent CS"). I know that the pepper/CS combination spray is available over the counter in Indiana, with no ID requirements to purchase.

Insect Spray -- there are two types (slow-acting, for things like ants, so they can carry it back to the nest and contaminate the nest), and fast-acting (for things like roaches, or wasps & hornet spray, which is generally used directly on the nest).

2. Using chains and padlocks, lock every door. Even if there are no outside handles, you can always run the chains through/around the inside handles, keep a hold of the ends as you back out the doors, cinch snuggly, and padlock. You should have one lock-up team at each door, acting simultaneously, so that no radio-calls will allow one part of the building to escape while the first part is being locked.

3. Have a team on the roof waiting for the signal -- Once they get it, they create a small breach [2 inches in diameter is sufficient] in the main air duct leading into / out of each HVAC system. Push a hose through the breach. Using a funnel, dump household bleach into the funnel, through the hose, into the air-stream. For added levels of fun, use equal parts of household bleach and household ammonia -- this creates a nerve agent.

3a. If you want to add to the suffering, dump LOTS of your favorite high potency hot sauce in, too. Put a bottle or so in BEFORE the bleach or bleach+ammonia. Note -- be careful to drill your breach hole in a place where the falling liquids will NOT drop/splash/spray onto the heat exchangers of the AC component -- both hot sauce and ammonia are highly destructive to the metals used in such, and you don't want to ruin the AC system.

Another alternative is perfumed insect spray. If you're going to go Generation Zyklon, nothing works like a modern-day Zyklon. (Fun fact: Zyklon is German for "Cyclone.")

4. Some people will figure out what's going on, and will run for the fire exits. That's the reason for Step #1.

Remember: Chemical Warfare is defined as a war crime ONLY when used in INTERNATIONAL conflicts. For example, Bradley Manning claimed that we were violating international law in Iraq because our vehicles had smoke dischargers that use the sodapop-can style smoke grenades, AND those same dischargers can also hold CS grenades, therefore, according to transsexual logic, all those trucks and armored vehicles MUST be conducting chemical warfare, even though our forces didn't take a single CS grenade to Iraq. (Specifically to prevent any accusations of War Crimes by conducting Chemical Warfare).

Blogger Rez Zircon August 07, 2018 12:14 AM  

@85

Cass Sunstein is an animal rights nut who tried to take control of APHIS for the purpose of shutting down all animal agriculture. This, however obliquely, is the infiltration of which he speaks.

Blogger Dirk Manly August 07, 2018 12:21 AM  

@90

"90. Lance E August 06, 2018 6:30 PM
These transnational tech companies have dozens, sometimes hundreds of offices. The idea of a commando assault sounds pretty wack to me."

It's not the servers, it's THE PEOPLE WHO ADMINISTRATE THE PUBLIC USER ACCOUNTS THEM, AND THE PEOPLE WHO HIRE AND GIVE ORDERS TO THOSE ADMINISTRATORS.

As with most problems, it's NOT the inanimate objects, it's the PEOPLE USING THEM TO ATTACK LAW-ABIDING SOCIETY.

Blogger tublecane August 07, 2018 12:23 AM  

@109- There's plenty of infighting on the left. That's what "intersectionality" and Me Too are all about. It's just easier for them because they have institutional power.

Blogger Dirk Manly August 07, 2018 12:29 AM  

@96

"I don't think there's much of a business opportunity in a YouTube replacement. It's a huge money sink and viewers don't want to pay for content and advertisers will be told not to advertise on alternative platforms."

Tortuious interference of trade. That's a LONG established principle of Civil Law, which started in the 1300's when some jerk was actively interfering with a neighbor's duck-selling business by doing whatever he could to scare the ducks out of the neighbor's pond. The neighbor sued, won, and was awarded compensatory damages. These days, I believe the standard penalty is to pay TRIPLE DAMAGES, which is a very, VERY strong deterrent -- it makes tortuous interference both expensive for the perpatrator, and very, very profitable for the victim.

Blogger tublecane August 07, 2018 12:30 AM  

@128- I remember being confused as a kid by the backhanded esteem in which the left held talk radio. I mean, they owned Hollywood, print, the rest of radio, education, government, before Fox all of news, basically the entire culture. And they were angry about AM radio? Control freaks.

But I guess they should be. If your politics has no foundation in tradition and blood but requires people to believe in obvious nonsense like equality and the Blank Slate, you need an information monopoly.

Blogger Lance E August 07, 2018 1:15 AM  

I'm sure all of these companies have been salivating over a potential Infowars/Jones purge for months if not years, but none of them wanted to be the first to do it. As soon as one of them did, the rest of the dominoes fell quickly, since there was no longer anything holding them back.

No explicit collusion required, just fanatical adherence to an ideology. That's the scary part. But also drearily predictable; there's no reason we should expect the enemy to allow their own creations to be weaponized against them. If we owned the platforms, we certainly wouldn't allow SJWs to shit them up... would we?

Blogger Lance E August 07, 2018 1:32 AM  

Dirk Manly wrote:
It's not the servers, it's THE PEOPLE WHO ADMINISTRATE THE PUBLIC USER ACCOUNTS THEM, AND THE PEOPLE WHO HIRE AND GIVE ORDERS TO THOSE ADMINISTRATORS.

As with most problems, it's NOT the inanimate objects, it's the PEOPLE USING THEM TO ATTACK LAW-ABIDING SOCIETY.


Afraid I don't understand your point. Both the servers and the staff are massively distributed. Companies like Amazon, Google and Apple do disaster drills all the time, simulating absurdly unlikely possibilities like the entire HQ getting swallowed up by a 9.0 earthquake.

Even if they had poor physical security, the fact is, you could take out more than half of their personnel and physical infrastructure and they would still continue to function decently, if not at 100%.

I'm not saying they're untouchable. If a government orders them to do something, they'll do it. The EU does this to them every year. But the idea of a private military-style coup is just absurd. You drastically underestimate the scale of their operations and their degree of preparation for exactly that sort of emergency.

It's not going to work. Trying it anyway would probably just trigger a much larger and more savage crackdown.

Blogger Dirk Manly August 07, 2018 2:01 AM  

Look the SJW's doing the "content filtering" and unpersoning don't know shit about technology.

They've been given simple tools.
Search
disableuser

Take out the head, and it all comes crashing down.

Yes, they have a lot of I.T. guys distributed around the world... but competent I.T. guys aren't SJW's.

The people at the distributed sites just make sure the servers don't crash, or bring them back up if they do. They maintain the physical infrastructure, they don't maintain the "we can ban you because we don't like you" policies.

The "we don't like what you write, so we're banning you" crowd tend to be what I.T. people call Lusers. They use the tools they're given, and nothing else, because they literally aren't smart enough to write their own shell scripts, etc.

Grabbing the HQ servers, which all of the OTHER servers mirror (i.e. just copy the master servers, and parrot the same changes as on the masters) IS the key.

Massive redundancy not only does NOT require thoughtful analysis at the mirror sites -- it specifically PRECLUDES such. The only real decisions at a mirror site is whether to kill the fiber-line coming into the building.

You literally CANNOT have every data center doing it's own thing as regards to content evaluation -- that would completely undermine the purpose of mirrored redundancy.

And yes, I've worked on this. GM Tech Center, Super Computing Group, when we decided that rather than running 5 separate super-computing groups at 5 different GM locations around the world, it would be better if all of the facilities were operated the same way (there were serious throughput differences at different sites, due to some not having the software to do mid-run task relocations. -- Think of a very long finite element analysis simulation of an off-set head-on collision, starting when a 16-CPU job finished...and then on another machine, a 64-CPU job finishes, so you want to move this huge FEA job from the 16-CPUs that it's using on host1 over to the 64-CPUs now available on host2...
1) WITHOUT restarting the job from time 0
2) WITHOUT having the simulation program specifically modified to cater to such things.

Basically, there's software that can interrupt a job on one computer, and restart it on a different computer at the same point it left off AND redistribute the resources available to the job (i.e. from N1 CPUS available to N2 CPUS available).

All of this stuff works without human interaction... and you WANT it that way, because in a situation like that, the only thing humans are good for, even really, really, really smart humans, is making small errors like typos and totally screwing things up.

Blogger Noah B The Savage Gardener August 07, 2018 2:16 AM  

If Trump can't get some antitrust action going he should keep the hot sauce commando thing in mind as a backup plan.

Blogger doctrev August 07, 2018 2:25 AM  

That battle plan made me hungry. For wings. And justice. Mostly wings, though.

Blogger Tanjil Bren August 07, 2018 3:09 AM  

The minute I saw this news I thought: don't say you weren't warned.
As Vox has said repeatedly, it's an obvious next step.
I'm just surprised it didn't happen sooner.

Blogger Tanjil Bren August 07, 2018 3:30 AM  

I'm acknowledging Vox here, just BTW; Vox said it first (as far as I'm aware).

Blogger Tanjil Bren August 07, 2018 4:08 AM  

Dirk Manly...I've rarely (code for *never*) encountered an IT professional of high and reliable competency that writes as well as you do.

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Blogger Resident Moron™ August 07, 2018 4:50 AM  

Point: SJWs Always Project.

Ergo the reason they try to use fear to make people submit is that they would submit if subjected to the same fears.

Ergo if you want to destroy (e.g.) Twitter you have to do two things;

1. Make them afraid to do business
2. Make other SJWs afraid to do business with them.

This is conceptually simple but practically difficult. It takes sustained and severe pressures and the pressures involved are already illegal in most places. So it takes a force of already disenfranchised shock troops with nothing left to lose (or willing to lose everything we still have). By definition this excludes all of us reading and commenting here.

When people lose everything THEN they lose it.

Rarely before.

Blogger Attila is my bro August 07, 2018 5:32 AM  

Sooner or later they will be coming after regular, low level shitlords like you and me. Get off their platforms now before they have the opportunity to seize your data. Take the control away from them. When goolag shuts down your account, all of your email, calendar, etc go with it. Don't rely on them. Be a digital prepper.

Blogger Dirk Manly August 07, 2018 6:11 AM  

@144

"Dirk Manly...I've rarely (code for *never*) encountered an IT professional of high and reliable competency that writes as well as you do."

I've always loved reading (since the age of 4), and consider it to be an insult to the reader to misuse the language.

Blogger VD August 07, 2018 6:28 AM  

Given the right's inability to coalesce and fight a war, the only hope I see in this is....

That's because you're a godless Alt-Retard. There is no hope for you. Literally. You're going to fail, then you're going to die, and then you're going to Hell.

At least have the fortitude to shut up and face your chosen fate like a man. The constant crying and bitching is pathetic.

Blogger FrankNorman August 07, 2018 7:47 AM  

That's because you're a godless Alt-Retard. There is no hope for you. Literally. You're going to fail, then you're going to die, and then you're going to Hell.

At least have the fortitude to shut up and face your chosen fate like a man. The constant crying and bitching is pathetic.


Don't worry - he won't be alone in Hell.
John Scalzi will be there to keep him company.

Blogger Nostromo August 07, 2018 8:51 AM  

Next on the deplatform list will be Q. Whether you think he is who he says he is, or a larper, he is having an effect on normies in the real world. After the GE's Tampa speech there was a plethora of articles poo-pooing the Qanon phenomenon. They read like one person wrote an article, then emailed it to all the "news" sites, and told them to publish it. Nah, that would never happen.

Blogger Brian Dean August 07, 2018 9:07 AM  

You guys probably won't be surprised to learn that Pissed-Off Myers couldn't write just one post about this incident.

Blogger Wuzzums Fuzzums August 07, 2018 10:23 AM  

https://twitter.com/cwarzel/status/1026586895369695232

I guess it's time to make our own porn site platforms.

Blogger jdgalt August 07, 2018 3:42 PM  

This is why you are shortsighted and strategically-challenged if you allow yourself to be dependent in any way on the platforms of your enemy, even if it is in your immediate short-term interests.

I agree, but am not sure that merely creating your own hosting site will be enough. There have already been serious attempts to have Gab's domain name registrar and upstream connectivity provider stop providing services to Gab, and what can happen to Gab can certainly happen to smaller fry.

I believe the next step that will be needed on our side is an antitrust case, to get a court to force these core Internet functions to serve everybody equally or break up into enough competing entities that some will.

AG Sessions is the one who ought to file the antitrust case, but he doesn't appear to want to do much of anything. So we'll probably need Peter Thiel, or someone like him, to fund the suit.

Blogger KPKinSunnyPhiladelpia August 07, 2018 3:45 PM  

Random #57 wrote:@42 tublecane

Why did Silicon Valley do this all at once, I wonder.

They're social justice converged institutions, herd behavior (in doing something they wanted to do anyway) is the most likely explanation.


John Bolton tells a story, when his law firm worked for Gene McCarthy, that Gene likened the press to birds on a telphone wire. One flies off. The rest of them follow. It's intinctual and habitual.

So too with the tech giants. Just big birds on a wire, flying off and flocking together.

Blogger KPKinSunnyPhiladelpia August 07, 2018 3:58 PM  

jdgalt wrote:

I agree, but am not sure that merely creating your own hosting site will be enough. There have already been serious attempts to have Gab's domain name registrar and upstream connectivity provider stop providing services to Gab, and what can happen to Gab can certainly happen to smaller fry.

I believe the next step that will be needed on our side is an antitrust case, to get a court to force these core Internet functions to serve everybody equally or break up into enough competing entities that some will.

AG Sessions is the one who ought to file the antitrust case, but he doesn't appear to want to do much of anything. So we'll probably need Peter Thiel, or someone like him, to fund the suit.


Ssshhh...be careful! Some may accuse of being too tactical in your thinking!

Some stuff is worth a shot, especially if someone else is doing the heavy lifting. But Vox is right -- expect nothing. Our slow griding adversarial legal system makes sweeping results very difficult.

The key problem, as you point out, is that even the alt-right can't go "off the grid." The "grid," a "platform" is necessary at some fundamental level.

Blogger AnvilTiger August 07, 2018 4:55 PM  

The intent is obvious - to starve the right. Like this:
1. HR checks social media for any job applicant.
2. Nothing found, applicant must be right wing.
3. Toss application into circular file (e.g. trash)

Blogger Zeroh Tollrants August 07, 2018 9:23 PM  

I know of your distaste for Andrew Anglin and Richard Spencer, but anyone that didn't learn from their deplatforming and unpersoning and see it as the canary in the coal mine, is a complete idiot.
The very same ppl who are beginning to wring their hands about being shut down REFUSED to push back and stand up and raise a ruckus. Jones refused to do what Tucker Carlson had the balls to do.

Blogger Sagramore August 07, 2018 10:45 PM  

@85 I strongly suspect that QAnon has some Sunstein in it.

@157 I've been forced into the security industry by pretty much this. (Next week I write a test on lockpicking... whohoo!)

Blogger Unknown August 08, 2018 11:58 AM  

People: Freedom of speech on the internet is threatened like NEVER before. It is worth noting that Fakebook CENSORS any mention of a website, www.CodeIsFreeSpeech.com that provides FREE downloads of 3D-printable firearm blueprints. And, since Facebook logins are so prevalent for posting commentary across the Internet, they are very effectively suppressing this "Forbidden knowledge". Please go to the website, download some or all 10 of the free blueprints, and then, repost it to your friends and across the Internet, to the extent you can. Strike a BLOW against Fakebook and judicial CENSORSHIP! Support TWO amendments at once, the First and the Second!

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Blogger Dirk Manly August 10, 2018 10:20 PM  

@159

There's gonna be lots of jobs... especially jobs in HR after all the SJW's have been converted into critter/insect/bacteria food.

They and their 60's hippy leaders are just CRAVING an actual shooting civil war (they're even carrying signs saying "THIS IS WAR!" now.

They want a war? Well then, they're going to get a war... GOOD AND HARD.

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