Saturday, September 15, 2018

Bob Woodward: "No collusion"

The RUSSIA-RUSSIA-RUSSIA narrative is finally falling apart:
In an interview with Hugh Hewitt on Friday, Bob Woodward said that in his two years of investigating for his new book, 'Fear,' he found no evidence of collusion or espionage between Trump and Russia. Woodward said he looked for it "hard" and yet turned up nothing.

"So let’s set aside the Comey firing, which as a Constitutional law professor, no one will ever persuade me can be obstruction. And Rod Rosenstein has laid out reasons why even if those weren’t the president’s reasons. Set aside the Comey firing. Did you, Bob Woodward, hear anything in your research in your interviews that sounded like espionage or collusion?" Hugh Hewitt asked Woodward.

"I did not, and of course, I looked for it, looked for it hard," Woodward answered. "And so you know, there we are. We’re going to see what Mueller has, and Dowd may be right. He has something that Dowd and the president don’t know about, a secret witness or somebody who has changed their testimony. As you know, that often happens, and that can break open or turn a case."

"But you’ve seen no collusion?" Hewitt asked again to confirm.

"I have not," Woodward affirmed.
It's about time the media gave it up. It never happened and neither is their dream impeachment scenario.

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Blogger Joe September 15, 2018 10:45 AM  

As long as they keep repeating the lie, there will always be people that believe it. The MSM isn't interested in truth, it's interested in propaganda and sedition. It never abandons the narrative and will go down with it like the Titanic.

Anonymous Anonymous September 15, 2018 10:47 AM  

OT but...

Blogger Snidely Whiplash September 15, 2018 10:59 AM  

The purpose is not to convict. The purpose is to delegitimize.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash September 15, 2018 11:03 AM  

Benji was paid to write and publish Manafort's Ukie propaganda?
So you're saying;

Ben Shapiro utterly DEMOLISHES his own FAKE integrity with just one article?

Blogger Balkan Yankee September 15, 2018 11:16 AM  

Woodward isn't saying anything that keen observers don't already know. The new great hope of impeachment on the left is nailing the president on money laundering via the Russian mob/intelligence services. The more vindictive among President Trump's haters fantasize about jailing members of the Trump Family because Trump Foundation.

Blogger Cinco September 15, 2018 11:18 AM  

The counter-offensive is going to be glorious.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother September 15, 2018 11:18 AM  

That is beautiful

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother September 15, 2018 11:19 AM  


They want every member of the Trump family in jail. I see it on Twitter and Instagram all the time.

Blogger Dave September 15, 2018 11:26 AM  

This Castalia House book rivals anything by Woodward and for some reason Amazon dropped the price by more than half:

Blogger Damelon Brinn September 15, 2018 11:27 AM  

Last fall WaPo ran an article saying it was time to end the Mueller investigation. They didn't admit the collusion narrative was fake, but played it like it just wasn't going anywhere, so it was time to stop spending political capital on it. They ran it in their opinion blog, where they put things they want to have deniability on, so they can say it was just some random's opinion later. But they ran it.

There have been occasional repeats of that from different outlets, as the smarter among them realize it's counterproductive and could easily expose their own collusion. But they did too good a job of whipping up their base. It doesn't seem like there's any talking them down now.

Blogger Dave September 15, 2018 11:32 AM  

Not to worry, Lil' Bennie will publish the one perfect tweet that demolishes those pesky character assassination attempts.

Blogger The Observer September 15, 2018 11:33 AM  

But they did too good a job of whipping up their base. It doesn't seem like there's any talking them down now.

It's almost as if they read the Supreme Dark Lord himself. Get the insane members whipped up into an unstoppable frenzy, then withdraw and let them commit autophagy.

Blogger Francis Parker Yockey September 15, 2018 11:36 AM  

"Did you, Bob Woodward, hear anything in your research in your interviews that sounded like espionage..."

Not counting the extensive electronic espionage/ surveillance operation conducted by the last administration against the political campaign of a candidate from the opposing political party, of course...

Which is another reason that they need the Russia conspiracy theory to be seen as somehow faintly plausible -- without it, what do they have? A sitting president targeted an opposing political candidate's campaign for an extensive surveillance/ infiltration operation because, um, ah, you know... reasons.

Blogger Manuel September 15, 2018 11:39 AM  

Instead Manafort will detail the Podesta bros. crimes, which are the same as what he is accused of. The old double reverse switcherooski. #DrainTheSwamp

Blogger Mr Darcy September 15, 2018 11:48 AM  

Okay, so ... doesn't this make Bob Woodward literally Hitler?

Blogger pyrrhus September 15, 2018 11:50 AM  

Not to mention that "collusion" has no legal meaning, nor is there any law against meeting with foreign nationals. If there were, the economy would collapse tomorrow.

Blogger Balkan Yankee September 15, 2018 11:51 AM  

@14: Didn't Mueller give the Posdesta brothers immunity in the Manafort case?

Blogger Lazarus September 15, 2018 11:55 AM  

Remember, the Mueller probe is for collusion with Russia in the election. It is not a probe of the Trump team. Just recently, prominent Dem operatives like Greg Craig and the Podesta group have come under scrutiny by investigators. Lefties have been sucked into defending Mueller Rosenstein, and Sessions. Would it not be ironic if the dirt sticks to the dems in the end. Then what will the lefties say?

It is either a pipe dream or a brilliant ruse.

Whoever digs a pit will fall into it; if someone rolls a stone, it will roll back on them.

Blogger Lazarus September 15, 2018 11:58 AM  

pyrrhus wrote:Not to mention that "collusion" has no legal meaning, nor is there any law against meeting with foreign nationals. If there were, the economy would collapse tomorrow.

The technicalities here involve the Foreign Agent Registration Act.

Blogger IM2L844 September 15, 2018 12:13 PM  

I think Trump is going to keep his powder dry until after the left launches it's inevitable "October surprise". Then all bets are off.

Blogger Cataline Sergius September 15, 2018 12:24 PM  

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Blogger Cataline Sergius September 15, 2018 12:26 PM  

It's about time the media gave it up. It never happened and neither is their dream impeachment scenario.

They can't.

They simply can not give it up.

At this point you're trying to prove a negative with them. They are holding on to this bright and shining lie in the hope that will somehow invalidate, expunge and completely reverse everything the entire Trump Presidency.

Is it crazy?


But you've all seen who we're dealing with by now.

Blogger Pierre September 15, 2018 12:33 PM  

This collusion investigation is so ridiculous it could be cover for investigating about something else.

Or maybe not. "They really are that dumb" is always a credible hypothesis.

> Ben Shapiro utterly DEMOLISHES his own FAKE integrity with just one article?


Blogger Unknown September 15, 2018 12:51 PM  

Mueller was never investigating Russian collusion. That was just the pretext to make it palatable to the public. The media and Democrats, of course, know this.

Blogger Manuel September 15, 2018 1:39 PM  

@17 Yeah all I can find is that he "reportedly offered" (that's what all the sources I found say) immunity to Tony. Can't find anything definitive.
Doesn't mean he can't still turn on HRC and BHO?

Blogger Ominous Cowherd September 15, 2018 2:09 PM  

John Calla wrote:Mueller was never investigating Russian collusion. That was just the pretext to make it palatable to the public. The media and Democrats, of course, know this.

It was always about obstruction, covering up the crimes of the Clintons and the previous administration, and keeping the Loony Left base whipped up. All Mueller really has to accomplish is stymie Trump for four years.

So far, Mueller is succeeding at least adequately on all fronts. If the 4D-Chessmeister doesn't checkmate Mueller soon, time will run out.

October would be a great time to unseal thousands of indictments, arrest hundreds of Dem and GOPe incumbents and current and retired civil servants, show the world that Sessions has actually been doing something. We get a Red, Right tidal wave in November.

Or, Trump could just let Sessions let Mueller run out the clock. A blue wave in 2018 sets us up for either CWII or the American Pinochet in 2020.

Either way, we'll do OK.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine September 15, 2018 2:39 PM  

"Bottom line: Trump better try to move legislation now because it ain't going nowhere after November."

You've swallowed so many stupid black pills that it's more like they swallowed you.

Blogger Balkan Yankee September 15, 2018 2:46 PM  

@26: Thought I'd heard that, too. Mueller's team is stacked with Democrats who donated to HRC. Anything Manafort might dish to Mueller on the Podesta brothers is not going to be well received by Mueller's people.

As far as draining the swamp, Team Trump has made great progress by exposing the corrupt FBI leadership and its many abuses. He's had help from the Republican Congress, enough I think, to prevent the FBI from playing its preferred game of dominate the president. Some pro-Trump voices, like Joe DiGenova, think Comey, McCabe, and others are going to prison. That would be condign punishment. If it happens.

Since Bruce Ohr testified before Congress, the role played by Obama's DoJ has come under greater scrutiny. That way lie the scalps of Sally Yates, Loretta Lynch, and ultimately Obama. I don't see Mueller touching any of that.

Cut to the chase: We are witnessing a spectacular elite fight - a political fight to the death - spill into full public view: It's a zero-sum game. And there is, of course, no second place.

Even with the Muh Russia narrative on the ropes, I don't see this fight ending anytime soon. That said, does anyone else perceive that the Democrat-ABCNNBCBS-Silicon Valley axis is straining at the limits of its capabilities? I mean, how many times can they fire broadsides from their 16-in. media guns before the barrels turn white hot and begin to melt?

Blogger SciVo September 15, 2018 3:30 PM  

How many Democrats have actually obstructed the actual attempted enforcement of actual written immigration laws?

No wonder they want felons to vote; it's only a prosecutor's whim that keeps them out of jail.

Blogger Nostromo September 15, 2018 4:14 PM  

Then what will the lefties say?

They'll say Mueller is a Republican, so of course he's going after Democrats and defending Trump. Their own 2 years of being a shield wall for Mueller will be dropped down the memory hole to never be mentioned again. The GOPe and Never Trumpers-- will nod their heads in agreement.

Blogger Mark Stoval September 15, 2018 4:24 PM  

I have tried for two years to think of what offense is Trump's biggest crime to the leftists.

What is it they HATE about the man the most? There are so many that coming up with one that is the biggest is hard.

My best guess so far is that he is not a socialist.

Blogger Mark Stoval September 15, 2018 4:26 PM  

Some people have said that Trump's biggest crime to the leftists is that he does not speak in PC, he just tells us what he is thinking. He speaks plainly which is hurtful to the asshats on the left.

Maybe. I don't know.

Blogger Damelon Brinn September 15, 2018 4:44 PM  

He ran against HerTurn.

But in general, the fact that he ran with (R) after his name is enough for most leftists to hate him, even if they never had a hate-worthy impression of him in the 30+ years they've seen him in the tabloids and on TV. The same people ranted about Bushitler and thought Reagan was more dangerous than the Soviets. You can point out that the Bushes hate Trump and tried to torpedo his election, and that it's not about the two parties anymore, but they can't get their minds around that.

I think the difference is that in previous Republican administrations, the media moderated the hate somewhat. They encouraged the left to hate Bush, but within limits of the system. And at really important junctions like 9/11, they got on board the bipartisan wagon. Now all that restraint is gone. They're encouraging leftists to go beyond even the hate and revolutionary urges they felt over the 2000 recount, and really let their freak flag fly.

Blogger Balkan Yankee September 15, 2018 5:11 PM  

@34: Trump is a former insider who turned against Establishment elites. Trump's unexpected victory caused said elites (elitists?) to lose all sense of proportion and restraint because of wounded egos and chronic status anxiety. Anti-Trump elites have been stewing in distorted perceptions and warped thinking for far too long. They are all in too deep to ever abandon "la resistance." In a word, they are now caught in a fight they didn't expect to wage against an ornery President who knows exactly who and what he is up against.

Blogger Timmy3 September 15, 2018 5:13 PM  

Obstruction and Lying to the FBI are the actual crimes they are using to try to impeach, but Mueller isn’t close to making a case for those crimes. Mueller is just trying to make life difficult for Trump and that’s not enough.

Blogger Damelon Brinn September 15, 2018 5:53 PM  

Hey, it's Black Pill Guy! Hi, Black Pill Guy!

Blogger Snidely Whiplash September 15, 2018 6:55 PM  

So, ZZZD, Any Palestinian bombings is Israel today? We always love to hear the news.

Blogger Bobik September 15, 2018 7:28 PM  

Maybe in the process nsm will finally delegitimize themselves.

Blogger Toris September 15, 2018 8:55 PM  

Bob Woodward's wife and Google VP of Global Affairs wife are sisters. (Diana and Elsa Walsh) Bob has access to info most 'investigative journalists' do not. As usual, Walsh sisters are from established family lines. Both men are in the news this week. No connections made. Breitbart runs a 'Whi is Kent Walker?' article yesterday but mentions nothing other than the same lacking info regurgitated from wikipedia across internet.

Kent Walker is *John* Kent Walker. Father of same name was Navy, Lockheed satellite division, etc. Standard history of Silicon Valley.

Blogger Avalanche September 15, 2018 9:52 PM  

@31 "The GOPe and Never Trumpers-- will nod their heads in agreement."

Sorta OT: I was HOPING that Darth Bannon was going to still be in good odor, and preparing a state-by-state list of who were Repub that were NOT Never-Trumpers of RINOs. Trying to suss out which pols WORTH voting for, and which should be sent packing (or jailed) is ... hard to do. Anyone know of a state-level Alt Right voting list, or an "avoid these Repubs" list?

I DO want to keep/bring in some semi-usable Repubs -- just to prevent the DamnedDems from getting any seats... But I'd LIKE a pro-Trump or, better, Alt Right, list of who is acceptable... Any help?

Blogger Unknown September 15, 2018 10:03 PM  

There is no reason for the press to give up on the Russian narrative. Every Hillary voter I encounter or read on the web is 100% convinced that Trump colluded. They are all revved up to vote against republicans in the midterm to rescue their country. Like Mulder they want to believe. Never underestimate the desire of useful idiots to do the bidding of their masters in the near term.

Blogger Damelon Brinn September 15, 2018 10:47 PM  

If you could go back to 2015 or earlier and ask leftists what they think of Donald Trump, they'd say something about silver spoons, bad hair, and braggadocio. There wouldn't be anything about Russia or any of the other bizarre stuff they now claim he's done that doesn't even fit the profile. I used to discuss his show on a left-leaning forum, and they mostly thought he was all talk, certainly not scary. It's been amazing to watch them retcon him in their own memories into some kind of right-wing supervillain. That's the power of the media, I guess.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother September 15, 2018 11:06 PM  

But he is a right wing super villain. Like Franco, Pinochet, Captain America, etc.

Blogger God Emperor Memes September 15, 2018 11:12 PM  

I still cannot get over the number of people I personally know who believe the "muh Russian haxxors!" conspiracy nonsense.

Blogger Damelon Brinn September 15, 2018 11:40 PM  

I think part of it is that leftists remember all the Clinton crimes being brought up over the years, so they figure it's tit-for-tat that the same thing should exist on Trump. (Projection: they assume everyone is as guilty as them, so it's just a matter of finding out.) But the Clinton stuff developed over 25+ years. We were reading about Bill's use of the state police as pimps and Hillary's cattle futures in 1992, and it built from there. You can't just decide in 2016 that you're going to create a web of past conspiracy theories. Well, you can, but you can't expect anyone else to buy it.

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