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Friday, September 28, 2018

Game over

Townhall reports that Kavanaugh has the votes, both in the committee and on the floor:
With the Senate Judiciary Committee holding a vote at 9:30 A.M. tomorrow, a Senate insider has told Townhall that Kavanaugh has the votes to make it out of committee and the votes to be confirmed on the floor for a seat on the U.S. Supreme Court. Sens. Flake (R-AZ), Collins (R-ME), Murkowski (R-AK), and Manchin (D-WV) are expected to vote in favor of Kavanaugh. All the Republicans are voting yes. Also, in the rumor mill, several Democrats may break ranks and back Kavanaugh. That’s the ball game, folks. 
Notice the difference in result between Torvalds cucking and Kavanaugh holding his ground. Never, ever, give any ground to SJW pressure. Never apologize, never retreat, never hesitate to go on the counterattack.

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187 Comments:

Blogger Desdichado September 28, 2018 8:03 AM  

The next step is some kind of punitive measures against those responsible for the farce so that they're discouraged from every trying something that absurd ever again.

I'm personally in favor of shaving the heads of Feinstein and Ford and branding the word LIAR in all caps on their foreheads.

Blogger buzzardist September 28, 2018 8:07 AM  

Agreed. If Kavanaugh had come out and said, "I have no memory of this event, but I'm sorry if I may have hurt anyone in the past," he'd have been toast. Of course, he had no reason to bend and grovel in that manner since the evidence points to him being completely innocent. But his fiery, emotional, absolutely firm denials will be what guaranteed his confirmation.

At this start of this nomination, I was grimacing a little because I had the feeling that Kavanaugh would be the middle-of-the-road kind of justice that the country absolutely doesn't need. After this? If anything good comes out of this dumpster fire confirmation battle, it's that Kavanaugh has gone through a deeply eye-opening experience about how much the Left hates him. IF this doesn't affect his jurisprudence in a positive way going forward, then he is the coldest SOB alive.

Blogger The Kurgan September 28, 2018 8:08 AM  

This was the stupidest display of leftism I have seen in a long time. They went after a guy who ACTUALLY honest to God followed Catholic doctrine when dealing with women since he was a kid.
If he doesn’t get confirmed the USA should immediately devolve into a hot civil war.

Blogger The Kurgan September 28, 2018 8:08 AM  

*and I mean Catholic, not bergoglian pedomasters “catholic”

Blogger RomanCandle September 28, 2018 8:18 AM  

As Scott Greer quipped on Twitter, the left hates Kavanaugh because he is both the virgin and the chad.

Blogger Tank September 28, 2018 8:19 AM  

Exactly. Fight, fight, fight. Even if he lost, go down fighting. don't crawl away like a loser. It looks like taking the fight right back at them will carry the day, I hope so. Who fought this time? Trump. Kavanaugh. Graham (!?!). Anyone else?

Looking back, did Grassley play this right?

Blogger Richard Holmes September 28, 2018 8:21 AM  

Never, ever, give any ground to SJW pressure. Never apologize, never retreat, never hesitate to go on the counterattack. - VD


Excellent advice. I'm glad he didn't give in. One thing about SJW's that I noticed is they have ADD. They will go at it fiercely but when they notice they aren't getting anywhere they will soon get bored and jump on the next leftist temper tantrum.

Blogger tuberman September 28, 2018 8:24 AM  

The Left hates Kav because he is the final piece of the puzzle put in place to move on the Traitors. He is their existential threat.

Blogger Le Regardeur September 28, 2018 8:31 AM  

I honestly believe that Kavanaugh had read Vox's books. His approach at the commmittee yesterday was textbook Vox. And, as we know well here, following Vox's advice is the only strategy which works when dealing with the SJWs.

Blogger peacefulposter September 28, 2018 8:32 AM  

Gotta give credit where it's due. Lindsay Graham was very strong.

He really came out of the closet swinging.

Blogger Rabid Ratel September 28, 2018 8:33 AM  

GEOTUS is Making SCOTUS Great Again!

Blogger Looking Glass September 28, 2018 8:34 AM  

Brett Kavanaugh summoned so much courage & fortitude Lindsey Graham found his balls again. He also came out with some brutal fire, having clearly understood he was in a "Victory or Death" situation. It worked so well the Dems were talking about fart jokes in 1980s high school year books by the end of their questioning time.

Kavanaugh found himself in the real arena, picked up his "weapons" and fought the hordes. By early next week, he'll be Justice Kavanaugh. May his vengeance upon his enemies be righteous.

Also, Justice Kavanaugh should never have to pay for a beer in any establishment for the rest of his life.

Blogger OGRE September 28, 2018 8:40 AM  

For anyone whose interested, here is the Body Language lady going over Ford's testimony from yesterday. Its a bit long, but she is spot on. Matched many of my own impressions while watching the testimony, and I'll claim a bit of expertise in this area as someone who has cross-examined accusers of sexual assault crimes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGxr1VQ2dPI&lc=z233gti4wrjpi3xsdacdp43a1oa1iy3pzah1arulojpw03c010c.1538118330381949

Blogger Rick September 28, 2018 8:41 AM  

Tube — correct. And if there are any Dems who are not too jammed between a rock and a Deep State, they best vote for him too.
I’m curious to see if that happens.

Blogger Uncle John's Band September 28, 2018 8:46 AM  

The left is loathsome. Fighting forces them to expose themselves through their media cover.

Kavanaugh revealed his quality and had any potential leftward creep tempered out of him. His auspices have become blinding, to mix metaphors.

This is an eye-opening twitter thread from Thomas Wictor. He is usually absurd, but this one is plausible.

https://mobile.twitter.com/ThomasWictor/status/1045469738573291520


Blogger Student in Blue September 28, 2018 8:46 AM  

Now that it doesn't affect his appointment, just wait for all of the accusations and possible court cases to just mysteriously... disappear...

Blogger Silly but True September 28, 2018 8:48 AM  

Joe Donnelly of Indiana and Heidi Heitkamp of North Dakota — both voted with Manchin for Gorsuch. And all three are up for re-election in November.

Kavanaugh might actually get more votes to confirm in full Senate than Thomas did for allegedly doing far less. Thomas just allegedly according to Hill had a giant schlong; he didn’t ever allegedly use it on her.

See, that’s just how racist the Dems are.

Blogger Othello September 28, 2018 8:48 AM  

Watched it. Did you see somethings she didn’t say? Be nice to read another experts analysis.

Blogger tublecane September 28, 2018 8:49 AM  

I know this dead horse need not be beaten, but National Review continues to be an example of the stupidity of mainstream conservatism. They're on Kavanaugh's side, but the way they expressed it was to say he had his Joseph Welch moment, and the Democrats were a bunch of McCarthies. Which is better than saying Kavanaugh is Trotsky and Democrats are Stalin, but still.

Bill Buckley wrote a whole book defending McCarthy. Today's NR has swallowed the anti-McCarthy Narrative.

Blogger #6277Hammer September 28, 2018 8:50 AM  

@Looking Glass: "It worked so well the Dems were talking about fart jokes in 1980s high school year books by the end of their questioning time."

Don't know why they asked those yearbook questions. First rule of examining a witness is never ask a question you don't already know the answer to. It'll make you look stupid......which the Dems accomplished.

Blogger #6277Hammer September 28, 2018 8:50 AM  

*the answer will make you look stupid.

Blogger Iron Spartan September 28, 2018 8:52 AM  

NoName must have had a lot more dirt on people than we thought. Notice how many people found their spines once he became worm food?

Part of me wonders if this wasn't done to help explain why the blue wave will fail to materialize. The True Believers think anything is justified, but the middle of the road types are completely turned off.

Blogger Looking Glass September 28, 2018 8:56 AM  

@6 Tank

Grassley & McConnell did Obama & Crew so damn dirty for the last 2 years of his term. Pretty much no one got out of the Judiciary Committee. The Obama Admin was always super slow at doing anything (but being corrupt), so it wasn't publicly noticeable, but part of the Trump & Court stuff was setup for a GOP administration.

Side-point: but there's a Catholic vs Jew aspect to this court stuff. Since I'm not plugged into DC legal circles, I don't know all of the contexts behind it, but it looks a lot like a lot of Jewish Lawyers got locked out of Circuit & District positions during the Obama Admin. That's one of the behind-the-scenes aspects that clearly drives a lot of this stuff, but, obviously, there's almost no one who would ever publicly explain what's going on with that.

On topic, The Federalist Society's vetting is going to get more intense. The Left did real damage with just being able to put someone in enough of the same rough location to allow the narrative engineers to work. Though given how much leeway FusionGPS has gotten, the clear answer is to just start paying "journalists" under the table to push your narratives.

Kavanaugh only slightly effects Roe & Casey. Abortion isn't going to be outright banned by the SCOTUS. It should, but all they'd actually do is kick it down to the States & put a cap of probably between 20 to 22 weeks on it. (It'll almost assuredly be a Fetal Pain case.) The main thing, for the Left, beyond their Black & White thinking that any loss of power is beyond the pale, is they can't afford to fight it on that many fronts.

The interesting thing, to me, is how much they keep getting hurt about Garland. Judge Garland is considered fairly moderate, but he would have overturned Heller. I think that was the hidden one more than anything else withing the current jurisprudence. However, with new Justices, I'm curious about what other insanity can be rolled back. Maybe a run at Wickard? If a Trump SCOTUS undid Wickard, that'd just be even better.

Blogger OGRE September 28, 2018 8:56 AM  

@18 Othello

No, she is far more an expert at reading body language than I am; she hit on a couple things I missed. I was just proud that my thoughts mirrored hers for the most part.

I'd just point out that this was hardly a serious cross-exam; it'd be considered constitutionally insufficient on an appeal for ineffective assistance of counsel. But that was due to the time, forum, and format, and there were many other more important factors involved other than straight up discrediting the witness. If this had been a criminal trial she would have been cross-examined for at least a day if not a week, and she would have been nailed down on numerous details that she was permitted to gloss over here.

Blogger Ferdinand September 28, 2018 8:58 AM  

The whole stunt became so absurd that even arch cuckservatives had enough. Hopefully Kavanough learned a lesson about the despicable practices of the left here and is more right wing on the supreme court than was expected of him.

Blogger tz September 28, 2018 9:00 AM  

There could still be an assassination or an attempt before the vote.
Don't underestimate the depth of the evil of the SJWocrats.

What I found amazing is not only Graham - Get along Graham? - went thermonuclear ballistic, but Grassley, the nice chairman that allowed the disruption and interruption also put his foot down.

Civility and decorum are great things - when you are debating in a civil forum. The Cuckery was "rewarded", at least when the other side didn't go too far.

This was worse than anything Joe McCarthy was imagined to do and I'm glad the GOP is awakening and switching from Chaimberlain to Churchill.

This is why there will be a red Tsunami and Trumpslide.

The Left only had intimidation, but overplayed their hand - and Trump has been a master at provoking them to batshit crazy levels of excess.

The one quiet hope I have is Kavanaugh, who could still not allow himself to say he was going to forget judicial restraint, will take the gloves off when on SCOTUS and make them with Ted Kennedy never Borked Bork.

Blogger Desdichado September 28, 2018 9:01 AM  

tublecane wrote:I know this dead horse need not be beaten, but National Review continues to be an example of the stupidity of mainstream conservatism. They're on Kavanaugh's side, but the way they expressed it was to say he had his Joseph Welch moment, and the Democrats were a bunch of McCarthies. Which is better than saying Kavanaugh is Trotsky and Democrats are Stalin, but still.

Bill Buckley wrote a whole book defending McCarthy. Today's NR has swallowed the anti-McCarthy Narrative.

The National Review was writing freakin' articles about the Kavanaugh hearings are damaging the MeToo movement, fer cryin' out loud. At least when Jonatham Silverman and Andrew McCarthy dragged a dead body around and pretended it was alive, it was freshly dead. MeToo has been in the dirt for the better part of two months. The last time I even saw a story that referenced it specifically, it was some actress distancing herself from it and disavowing it in the wake of Asia Argento. That's how ridiculous the National Review is.

Blogger Looking Glass September 28, 2018 9:02 AM  

"Tom Cotton
‏@TomCottonAR

This is not in question. We will vote.

High Noon, Saturday, Senate floor. "

https://twitter.com/TomCottonAR/status/1045644398753730560

I think Senator Cotton is suggesting we've been using the wrong memes.


https://infogalactic.com/info/High_Noon

Kavanaugh wasn't quite the Gary Cooper character, but I'm sure we can meme up some "The Man With No Name" memes.

Blogger Looking Glass September 28, 2018 9:03 AM  

#6277 Hammer wrote:@Looking Glass: "It worked so well the Dems were talking about fart jokes in 1980s high school year books by the end of their questioning time."

Don't know why they asked those yearbook questions. First rule of examining a witness is never ask a question you don't already know the answer to. It'll make you look stupid......which the Dems accomplished.


He was never supposed to win. She was never supposed to testify. So much of the Left's strategies assuming cucking.

Blogger Raggededge September 28, 2018 9:07 AM  

The amount of cucks who texted me telling me that it was all over after Ford testified because she was sooooo credible...I was like, get your shit together, Kavanaugh hasn't even testified yet.

Blogger Samuel Nock September 28, 2018 9:11 AM  

Still not tired.

Blogger SemiSpook37 September 28, 2018 9:14 AM  

I happened to catch Graham's portion of the inquisition on my drive home yesterday. Wasn't sure who I was listening to when I initially turned it on, but the longer he went on, it dawned on me that it was him, and my only thought was, "Wow, it really did take getting rid of No Name for Graham to find his balls again."

I also echo Kurgan's observation, with this caveat: the fact that Kavanaugh was educated by modernist Jesuits and he still adheres to what the Faith is truly about is remarkable. It's rare, but it does happen.

Blogger Damelon Brinn September 28, 2018 9:19 AM  

It was funny to watch so many people act as if it hinged on Ford's tears or Kavanaugh's knowledge of drinking games or what some Fox News shill's opinion was. It hinged on 51 votes. And those votes hinged on work that was done by the White House and the Senate leaders well before they scheduled yesterday's show.

People can't let go of the idea that everything comes down to Republicans eventually being shamed into caving in, because that's how it's worked for 50+ years, with rare exceptions. It never had to be that way. They can scream and shake and say, "B-b-but she's credible!" and it's irrelevant if Trump has made sure he has 51 votes. He's not going to just assume he has 51 any more than he would start building a golf course and assume there will be room at the other end for the 18th hole.

As several conversations went yesterday:

"Why don't you want to have an FBI investigation?"
"Because f___ you."

They can't make you crawl and explain yourself when you have the upper hand, but they haven't learned that yet.

Blogger pyrrhus September 28, 2018 9:21 AM  

Kavanaugh seized the moment and became the master of his fate. He and Clarence Thomas should get along very well.

Blogger pyrrhus September 28, 2018 9:22 AM  

"Why don't you want to have an FBI investigation?"
"Because f___ you."

Exactly. And this conversation has been had all across America this week.

Blogger Nostromo September 28, 2018 9:23 AM  

No he did not. He should have blasted Difi for holding the letter, then leaking it. DiFi has ruined Ford's life. I don't really care about her, but her family was nominally innocent. Grassley should have told everyone involved, "You got 48 hours to produce corroboration. If the accuser has multiple inconsistences we'll vote immediately.". By delaying, he just allowed the media to run wild with crap that any left wing psycho alleged. Miss Lindsey warned them about what would happen "next time" the D's got a nominee, but I think everyone, I literally mean every person on the face of the Earth, doesn't believe him.

Blogger Le Regardeur September 28, 2018 9:24 AM  

"Side-point: but there's a Catholic vs Jew aspect to this court stuff. Since I'm not plugged into DC legal circles, I don't know all of the contexts behind it, but it looks a lot like a lot of Jewish Lawyers got locked out of Circuit & District positions during the Obama Admin. That's one of the behind-the-scenes aspects that clearly drives a lot of this stuff, but, obviously, there's almost no one who would ever publicly explain what's going on with that."

Anyone got any more background on that?

If Kavanaugh gets onto the SC now he will make Clarence Thomas look like a mild-mannered softie.

Trump has two more years with very likely a Republican senate majority - maybe even a bigger majority than now. I don't see Ginsburg lasting that long. I wonder if Trump is waiting for that to put Amy Coney Barrett on the SC.

Blogger James Dixon September 28, 2018 9:25 AM  

> The Left only had intimidation, but overplayed their hand

Oh, they're not done overplaying their hand yet. Expect lots of violence over the weekend once Kavanaugh is confirmed.

Blogger James Dixon September 28, 2018 9:27 AM  

> I wonder if Trump is waiting for that to put Amy Coney Barrett on the SC.

Yes, that's almost certainly exactly what he's doing.

Blogger Maniac September 28, 2018 9:28 AM  

 "I don't have all the answers, and I don't remember as much as I would like to." - "Dr." Christine Ford

There aren't enough adjectives in all of the world languages combined to describe how sick to death I am of Western women.

Blogger Balkan Yankee September 28, 2018 9:31 AM  

The moment Kavanaugh gets confirmed, the Ginsburg death watch begins.

Blogger tublecane September 28, 2018 9:32 AM  

Since around November 2016, instead of saying to themselves, "Okay, this is reality. We must deal with it," the left has decided to deny the existence of the outside world and fight to keep its eyes closed. Like my dog when it doesn't want its rest disturbed. Their theme song is Skeeter Davis' End of the World.

I'm probably just describing the double-down instinct. But Trump has made added exponential doubles to the downs. Which has led them to make mistakes they usually don't make, like thinking they can derail a foregone-conclusion confirmation with woman-tears. Akshally, just a memo at first. Tears had to be drug out from them.

Blogger RusticFederalist September 28, 2018 9:33 AM  

This drama has been a big shit-test, or a ruse so conservative people can think that Kavanaugh has earned his bones.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother September 28, 2018 9:36 AM  

Why the Barrett obsession? For fucks sake, why? Has she cured cancer? Decapitated Flynt/Wu?

Blogger Dirk Manly September 28, 2018 9:43 AM  

"Muh women in ______"

White Knighting idiots.

Blogger Damelon Brinn September 28, 2018 9:50 AM  

Kavanaugh hasn't even testified yet.

Yeah, that was weird. I get that their feelz were triggered by a woman sniffling. But I kept thinking, you guys do know there's a second half here, right? And for all we knew there could have been more witnesses, evidence laid out (there was talk of Ford's hacked emails), and who knows what else. To jump to the conclusion that it was over because a woman made them feel bad for her was awfully short-sighted, and makes them look like they haven't noticed anything that's gone on in the last two years.

I think part of it is that we've so rarely seen a man stand up for himself in the modern era. (Men do all the time, but we're not shown it unless it looks bad.) On the pol live thread, where it has to be 95% youngish men, it was about 50/50 whether he had a chance at halftime. When Kavanaugh got rolling, they were like, "Holy shit, he's DESTROYING them!" They've never seen anything like that before. In their movies, if a hero gives a rousing speech, it's subverted at the end with some snark or by him tripping over something. They've never seen straight-up manly sincerity before, so they couldn't expect it.

The other thing is that media had been given a different speech. Maybe they were given an apology speech. Wrong-footing them was a nice touch, whether or not it was planned that way.

Blogger Whitecloak September 28, 2018 9:52 AM  

Feels simple after thought about it, maybe you've phrased it as such and I'm parroting, but it feels truth--

If you will not defend yourself, why should anyone else?

Coach K held his ground and proved worthy the support of others, those who give in? Why would we defend anyone who surrenders before the fight has begun?

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother September 28, 2018 10:04 AM  

It's a new era, one I thought I'd never see.

Blogger Son of Blob September 28, 2018 10:07 AM  

So when are they going to start looking into the high school Behavior of Senate Democrats?

Blogger John Best. September 28, 2018 10:15 AM  

This winning thing, I am still not tired of it.

Blogger Unknown September 28, 2018 10:18 AM  

Peaceful Poster wrote:He really came out of the closet swinging.



I am so very glad I wasn't taking a drink as I read.

Blogger Dirk Manly September 28, 2018 10:24 AM  

Speaking of such, what happened to BGS/BGKB?

Blogger James Dixon September 28, 2018 10:24 AM  

So the Democrats walk out of the confirmation committee meeting:

"At least five Democrats walked out of today's meeting after the Senate Judiciary Committee moved to vote later today on Brett Kavanaugh's Supreme Court nomination.

Sens. Richard Blumenthal, Kamala Harris, Sheldon Whitehouse and Mazie Hirono left the room as Chairman Chuck Grassley was giving an opening statement. Sen. Patrick Leahy left a bit later."

Blogger Stilicho September 28, 2018 10:25 AM  

I've got June 2020 in the RBG death pool. It's just too convenient: just before general election (and conventions) so the demoncrats can stir up their base and make the election about her replacement. So watch for Arkancide or a precipitous decline in her health about then.

Blogger James Dixon September 28, 2018 10:25 AM  

> Speaking of such, what happened to BGS/BGKB?

He's not willing to post via a Google account. I think he's too worried about it being tracked back to him.

Blogger Starboard September 28, 2018 10:26 AM  

Once the shadowy human resources style lynching turned into an open committee trial, Kavanaugh had a chance. He hit it out of the park. Now we need to defang hr departments in general. People need to be able to defend themselves from real charges, not obscure rumors of charges.

The feminists don't realize that they are headed into "dark age" of their own making. They have used up the last shred of masculine good will and exposed themselves as the unhinged harpies that they are.

Diane Feinstein need to be investigated and censured for sitting on this for two months.

Blogger Crush Limbraw September 28, 2018 10:26 AM  

A few days ago I said:"This is a time of testing for those of us still sane. DaGOP is included!"
If the Townhall report proves true, we and DaGOP just passed the first one and might just get used to it. Winning can be catching and WeDaPeople are due - big time!

Blogger James Dixon September 28, 2018 10:27 AM  

> So when are they going to start looking into the high school Behavior of Senate Democrats?

Hopefully the chans on it as we converse. But since when has any of that ever mattered to a Democrat?

Blogger pyrrhus September 28, 2018 10:27 AM  

Sens. Richard Blumenthal, Kamala Harris, Sheldon Whitehouse and Mazie Hirono left the room as Chairman Chuck Grassley was giving an opening statement. Sen. Patrick Leahy left a bit later."

So the IQ in the room doubled....

Blogger Johnny September 28, 2018 10:27 AM  

Trump has been acting like he had a win here for a couple of days. The same with Mitch McConnell. Maybe they didn't go after Ford more than they did because they didn't think they needed to. Lawyer thinking always is that once you have a win you don't screw it up with more stuff.

Blogger tuberman September 28, 2018 10:31 AM  

JD

"Oh, they're not done overplaying their hand yet. Expect lots of violence over the weekend once Kavanaugh is confirmed."

I suspect there will be some more violence now, but most will happen after election night, as even their higher puppets believe in the "Blue Wave." They even actually feel that this scam has increased their chances in the elections. Echo chambers do that to you, but their numbers are much smaller than they project, so they fool even their selves.

Their "cells" will be released full tilt after the elections, which they will lose badly.

Blogger pyrrhus September 28, 2018 10:32 AM  

Why the Barrett obsession? For fucks sake, why? Has she cured cancer? Decapitated Flynt/Wu?

Women don't belong on the Court, and will always turn out to be liberals, no matter their track record. Do not nominate a woman, ever...

Blogger pyrrhus September 28, 2018 10:35 AM  

"Oh, they're not done overplaying their hand yet. Expect lots of violence over the weekend once Kavanaugh is confirmed."

We won't be seeing that here in southern AZ, but I'm fine with it...It can only be a plus...

Blogger Johnny September 28, 2018 10:39 AM  

Better to have control of the press, but as has already been noted, you can start believing your own lies because never is heard a contrary word. Plus Trump is really good at egging them on.

Blogger peacefulposter September 28, 2018 10:47 AM  

Speaking of such, what happened to BGS/BGKB?

He's still very prolific on Gab.

Blogger Ingemar September 28, 2018 10:51 AM  

Clarence Thomas must be thinking, "I had it easy..."

Blogger Azimus September 28, 2018 11:01 AM  

VD:
Notice the difference in result between Torvalds cucking and Kavanaugh holding his ground. Never, ever, give any ground to SJW pressure. Never apologize, never retreat, never hesitate to go on the counterattack.


I see a glorious halcyonic future where the 5th printing of the combined SJW volumes includes a forward from Justice Kavanaugh

Blogger Silly but True September 28, 2018 11:03 AM  

Kavanaugh nomination just moved out of Jud. Cmte. 11-10.

Confirmed on Sat? 3-say notice requirement so Tues.?

Blogger Nathan Bruno September 28, 2018 11:15 AM  

If they attempt to impeach him every two years as they have threatened, it will be interesting for them to haul Dr. Ford up every two years for the same questioning by a couple new faces. She has been buffaloed into an interesting future life. She's not David Hogg; she doesn't have the scheming character to try to parlay this into anything beyond the short-term Go Fund Me to feed the circling vultures she calls her lawyers (from DiFi).

Blogger het1 September 28, 2018 11:23 AM  

> Never apologize, never retreat, never hesitate to go on the counterattack.

And always support your friends.

Blogger OGRE September 28, 2018 11:24 AM  

@68 Stilly but True

The committee is still meeting. Whitehouse is speaking at the moment. A motion to vote at 1:30PM EST was approved 11-8, with Booker and Harris abstaining in protest.

Assuming the vote is to send it to the Senate (with or without a recommendation to confirm) then it moves to the full Senate for debate and vote. There will almost certainly need to be a cloture motion to prevent filibuster, so that needs motioned and voted on prior to the actual confirmation vote. A cloture motion requires a vote on the day after the motion is submitted. If cloture is approved, then an actual vote on the issue is supposed to happen with 30 hours. So we're looking at about three to four days from the committee sending the matter to the Senate till a final confirmation. Although in theory if the senate sends it out this afternoon and a cloture motion is made before close of business today, we could be looking at a floor vote by Monday.

Blogger Lance E September 28, 2018 11:27 AM  

I would not be at all surprised if some Dems break ranks. Instead of folding, Kavanaugh forced them to show their real hand, and all those moderate white male Dems had the opportunity to stare directly into the contorted, ferocious face of pure evil.

Nothing wakes up moderates like knowing they could (and probably will) be next on the chopping block.

Blogger Damelon Brinn September 28, 2018 11:28 AM  

I don't think we'll ever see DOCTOR Ford again (did you know she's a DOCTOR?). That blustering is for their "blue wave."

Blogger Azimus September 28, 2018 11:28 AM  

In reading of great battles, ancient and modern, I was always struck by how the vast bulk of casualties occurred only after the line was broken, and the defeated troops were fleeing in terror. I tried to put myself in the shoes of soldiers who worked the victory and broke the line, and for the life of me I couldn't understand the wanton slaughter of their fleeing foes after they carried the day. The Biblical accounts of how the Davidic armies pursued the Phillistines for days, cutting them down without mercy until there were none left to find, always struck me as cruel and barbarous.

That has changed.

The Democrats and their complicit presstitutes (to use somebody else's term) need to be utterly crushed, wiped out. They are a cancer on our nation. I am disgusted, UTTERLY disgusted with these soul-less lying tools. Their responses today, full of snark and bloviating, show that they are not capable of rational thought, they are not worthy to lead this country. I don't care about the rank and file democrats, there are fine people among them who are still shrouded in darkness, but the democrat party and leadership should be get the post-Goliath treatment in the political realm - drive them back to the gates of New York and Chicago and San Francisco, and keep them there. And let the land have rest.

Blogger Lew Rand September 28, 2018 11:29 AM  

Filibuster: I still feel if you are going to allow it to exist, make the people do the damn time. Byrd did it for hours when he looked like he was ready for the grave so don't give me some nicety about being too old.

Also the emotion Kavanaugh showed moved me (but I felt deep empathy about his situation). But it also put him in one of two camps. Very high functioning sociopath or truly wronged individual. That and his outright denials without weasel words probably carried the day.

Blogger Sheila4g September 28, 2018 11:37 AM  

I expected Trump to hold firm in his backing of Kavanaugh, but never did I anticipate anything like Graham's astonishing, effective rant or the repukes apparently not folding. I am incredibly happy to be proven wrong. For all that Kavanaugh was initially a Bush pick, it was noteworthy that (at least as far as I read/saw) no Bush publicly defended the man or put himself in the line of democrat fire - whether because of their butthurt over Trump or over Laura Bush and daughters' full feminazi/homo beliefs. Up until now, even rape or death of one's wife or daughter has proven insufficient to "wake" the normie/churchian/cuck from his conviction that "we're all Americans who want the best for [our] country" and similar civnat pieties. It appears that Graham and Kavanaugh, at least, finally understand the left is fighting a no-holds barred war, and any 'collegial' unity or tit for tat deal (particularly striking when Graham pointed noted he voted for Sotomajor/Kagan) is off the table when time comes for the dems' turn to repay favors. This should prove interesting going forward.

As an aside, I've long thought and said that most women are empty-headed idiots and emotionally incontinent, but this Ford spectacle truly would make me ashamed to be a woman IF I considered myself one of them (since I am a very special unicorn, does not apply). Her blatant lies and contradictions, little-girl voice, and emotional demeanor combined with the arrogance and entitlement and demand for EQUALITY was outrageous and confirmed, like nothing else could have, all I've read over the past 5 years or so as a silent lurker/reader of Heartiste and a few similar blogs. I think I exploded a pollster's head when, in a phone survey about Texas elections, I stated "women do not belong in politics" in response to questions about a particular female candidate. Now, more than ever, men must regain the whip hand. American women are seriously out of control.

Blogger James Dixon September 28, 2018 11:37 AM  

> If they attempt to impeach him every two years as they have threatened...

Two can play that game.

> Although in theory if the senate sends it out this afternoon and a cloture motion is made before close of business today, we could be looking at a floor vote by Monday.

If McConnell wants, he can hold the Senate in session and schedule the vote for tomorrow.

Blogger Nate September 28, 2018 11:41 AM  

Kavanaugh likes beer.

#MeToo

Blogger Nate September 28, 2018 11:43 AM  

true story... yesterday from my troll twitter account I had creature... presumably male... claiming to be in tears. He was complaining about the process of all this... and I said "shh... this all will go much easier if you just lay still and take it."

and... then I was sent to Twitmo.

Blogger OGRE September 28, 2018 11:48 AM  

@77 James Dixon

He can schedule the vote for tomorrow, but that doesn't mean its going to happen then. Any Senator can hold the floor for as long as they want (traditional filibuster), or move to proceed to other business without a vote (virtual filibuster). So they're absolutely going to need cloture. And that motion can't be voted on until the day after the next day the motion is made. i.e. if a cloture motion is made today, they could vote on cloture on Sunday, then have a floor vote on Monday. Thats basically the fastest it can be done.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother September 28, 2018 11:52 AM  

Every time Justice Kavanagh enters the chambers, they should play the Tom T Hall song "I Like Beer".

Blogger Cetera September 28, 2018 12:00 PM  

Azimus wrote:In reading of great battles, ancient and modern, I was always struck by how the vast bulk of casualties occurred only after the line was broken, and the defeated troops were fleeing in terror. I tried to put myself in the shoes of soldiers who worked the victory and broke the line, and for the life of me I couldn't understand the wanton slaughter of their fleeing foes after they carried the day. The Biblical accounts of how the Davidic armies pursued the Phillistines for days, cutting them down without mercy until there were none left to find, always struck me as cruel and barbarous.

That has changed.

The Democrats and their complicit presstitutes (to use somebody else's term) need to be utterly crushed, wiped out. They are a cancer on our nation. I am disgusted, UTTERLY disgusted with these soul-less lying tools. Their responses today, full of snark and bloviating, show that they are not capable of rational thought, they are not worthy to lead this country. I don't care about the rank and file democrats, there are fine people among them who are still shrouded in darkness, but the democrat party and leadership should be get the post-Goliath treatment in the political realm - drive them back to the gates of New York and Chicago and San Francisco, and keep them there. And let the land have rest.


My God, this. There is absolutely nothing that someone could do to these people that I would consider uncalled for, unjust, undeserved, too cruel, too far, too horrible. Nothing. I can't even see them as people anymore. They are just demonic meatsuits that have earned whatever fate someone eventually imposes upon them.

Blogger Theproductofafineeduction September 28, 2018 12:03 PM  

@79
Glorious Nate

Blogger Damelon Brinn September 28, 2018 12:03 PM  

Kavanaugh likes beer.

And the Democrats thought that would make Americans like him less. There may be no better proof of how out of touch they are. Maybe next they'll accuse him of liking sports.

Blogger Mocheirge September 28, 2018 12:04 PM  

Cetera wrote:My God, this. There is absolutely nothing that someone could do to these people that I would consider uncalled for, unjust, undeserved, too cruel, too far, too horrible. Nothing. I can't even see them as people anymore. They are just demonic meatsuits that have earned whatever fate someone eventually imposes upon them.

Chasing down routing foes is important for winning the next battle, which -- ideally -- will not happen.

Blogger Seth S September 28, 2018 12:07 PM  

Ford has deep CIA ties.

Blogger Crew September 28, 2018 12:07 PM  

There are dissenting views about Kavanaugh:

The Truth About Brett

"It was in his current capacity as a judge on the United States Circuit Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia, Kavanaugh wrote a dissenting opinion in the case of Priests for Life v. United States Department of Health and Human Services, May 15, 2015, that, while reaching the correct result, included the conviction that the government of the United States of America had a “compelling interest” in assuring that insurance companies provide coverage for contraceptives, which, of course, are evil of their very nature…"

Of course, the approach the Democrats have taken is also evil.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother September 28, 2018 12:08 PM  

Damelon Brinn wrote:Kavanaugh likes beer.

And the Democrats thought that would make Americans like him less. There may be no better proof of how out of touch they are. Maybe next they'll accuse him of liking sports.


He's a Redskins fan. Reason enough to hate him.

Blogger Ariadne Umbrella September 28, 2018 12:10 PM  

Did anyone else notice this? The female politicians and female activists were getting lit up by Dr Ford's testimony. They were getting bright eyed, flushed, when she was near dissociating, when she was little-girl vocalizing, when she was unstable. It looked like they enjoyed her breakdown.

http://susannahbreslin.net/they-shoot-stars This is a big essay. In it, a porn director breaks a new girl by shaming her. The moment she breaks is visible. Then she's pliable to his debasement. The Dem females looked pleased when Dr Ford exhibited this kind of breakdown.

They did not look interested or lit when Judge Kavanaugh began crying.

This wasn't really a hearing. It looked a lot more like a covert S&M ritual performed for the cameras.

Blogger Haus frau September 28, 2018 12:10 PM  

The segments of the hearing where the democratic representatives questioned him about his calendar with its abbreviations and slang were highly amusing. They are interrogating the former 16 year old kavanough and trying to hold him to corporate pc standards of speech and behavior. They were desperately trying frame normal teenage lingo and behavior as darkly significant. Normal parents watching this farce should be very frightened by this.

Blogger Warunicorn September 28, 2018 12:11 PM  

Nate wrote:true story... yesterday from my troll twitter account I had creature... presumably male... claiming to be in tears. He was complaining about the process of all this... and I said "shh... this all will go much easier if you just lay still and take it."

and... then I was sent to Twitmo.



Damn, I knew they were pussies who can't take being browbeaten...but Jesus, Mary and Joseph...

That was hilarious, Nate. xD

Blogger Noah B. September 28, 2018 12:12 PM  

@87 It would be refreshing for a judge to just say, "I call bullshit on the last 200 years of case law on this subject" but they seldom do that. Change in these areas happens at a glacial pace.

Blogger RusticFederalist September 28, 2018 12:15 PM  

Did anyone listen to this guy reveal his life? He started making calendars as a child, logging in his appointments, striking through missed appointments, and then he retained and stored his calendars in a manner he was easily able to recover multidecade old information from. What a remarkably simple evidence for the differentiation of intelligence.

Stg58/Animal Mother wrote:Every time Justice Kavanagh enters the chambers, they should play the Tom T Hall song "I Like Beer".

That's pretty funny.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother September 28, 2018 12:22 PM  

RusticFederalist wrote:Did anyone listen to this guy reveal his life? He started making calendars as a child, logging in his appointments, striking through missed appointments, and then he retained and stored his calendars in a manner he was easily able to recover multidecade old information from. What a remarkably simple evidence for the differentiation of intelligence.

Stg58/Animal Mother wrote:Every time Justice Kavanagh enters the chambers, they should play the Tom T Hall song "I Like Beer".

That's pretty funny.


It makes me a jolly good fellow.
I like beer.

Blogger Silent Draco September 28, 2018 12:32 PM  

@79, dang it, Nate, excellent trolling but I almost dropped my teacup!

Would have been a waste of good whiskey.

Blogger Derrick Bonsell September 28, 2018 12:33 PM  

Dr. Ford has a doctorate in Psychology and tried her hand at neuroscience, terribly so. But her gibberish was enough to scare the crunchy cons.

Blogger Seeingsights September 28, 2018 12:36 PM  

You know, if I ever ran into Robert Bork, I would say to him well at least you weren't accused of a sex crime.

Blogger Seeingsights September 28, 2018 12:40 PM  

Re the Republicans not questioning Ford harder:
Here's a story. I was in a courtroom, where one side, pro se, was doing most of the talking. The judge asked the other sides lawyer does he have anything to say. No your honor. Have you heard of the Judge Markovitz rule? Yes your honor. Can you state it to the court? When your winning, don't talk.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother September 28, 2018 12:48 PM  

Seeingsights,

Not on this earth, you won't.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash September 28, 2018 12:49 PM  

Nate wrote:"shh... this all will go much easier if you just lay still and take it."


I know it's the drugs, Nate, but you left out the "sugar tits".

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother September 28, 2018 1:15 PM  

Drugs are bad mmmmkk

Blogger Feather Blade September 28, 2018 1:48 PM  

Damelon Brinn wrote:Maybe next they'll accuse him of liking sports.

IIRC, they did. Accused him going into credit card debt to buy... baseball tickets, I think.

I don't think it occurred to them that this would make everyone else in the country go "Oh hey, a normal human being."

Blogger James Dixon September 28, 2018 2:00 PM  

Flake has flaked out on us: "Sen. Jeff Flake just said he would vote to move Judge Brett Kavanaugh out of the Judiciary Committee and to the floor of the Senate as long as the main vote would be delayed by up to one week to allow for an FBI investigation."

Of course, any such vote would not be binding on the full Senate.

Blogger OGRE September 28, 2018 2:00 PM  

We should just give Arizona to Mexico

Blogger Snidely Whiplash September 28, 2018 2:03 PM  

James Dixon wrote:Flake has flaked out on us:
His future employer at CNN called....

Blogger VFM #7634 September 28, 2018 2:04 PM  

Flake looks like an easily-browbeaten pussy. Grassley was right to push this through to the floor as quickly as he did.

Blogger DonReynolds September 28, 2018 2:06 PM  

I admit to my severe disability these days. It has become increasingly more difficult for me to translate what is happening into rational behavior on the part of politicians. It used to be easy. Politicians were crazy and stupid and weak (at the same time) but they would cling to public office like a tick, so their own self-interest would be sufficient to explain away their foolishness (and that was the limit of their stupidity). But these days, self-interest seems to have been discarded as the primary motivation. There have been too many cuttings that "accidentally" ended up being suicides. I do not think they were intended to be suicides, just attention-getting devices, but EMS was busy or slow to make it through the BLM barricades and they ended up bleeding out. That happens.

The Judicial Committee process has been taken over by hysterics and bombast and out-of-control posturing. It has been a shocking embarrassment to much of the rest of the nation. Now they have the choice of continuing the circus indefinitely through multiple rounds of new fake accusations and further investigations (by the Media) and side trials (by the Media) or they can call time on everyone and declare the party is over. Time for the drunks to go home.

Kavanaugh cannot end this by withdrawing his own nomination nor can Trump by picking one of the other 23 on the list, he was provided, to be the new nominee. This is not about Kavanaugh and if there were no Kavanaugh, the same accusations would still be there, with the same shrill theatrics and Leftist/Feminist MeeToo posturing. This is not going to go away but the more it is encouraged and rewarded, the more it will be used.

I hope the Judiciary Committee and the Senate act today to confirm Kavanaugh before the Monday deadline. It is time to blow the whistle on the play. The ball is dead. Go to your huddle.

Blogger Nathan September 28, 2018 2:23 PM  

@104

Don't doom the entire state because McCain's machinations, to the eternal torment of Arizona, have left the politicians with dreams of Californication and Deseret. Get San Francisco and Salt Lake City out of Arizona politics, and you'll see a turnaround.

Blogger Tars Tarkas September 28, 2018 2:32 PM  

They cucked just like I knew they would. During the next "week" more unsubstantiated claims will come out which will need further delays.
Giving a "conditional" yes, means no. He gets nothing in return and now his constituents hate him.

Blogger Cetera September 28, 2018 2:57 PM  

Tars Tarkusz wrote:They cucked just like I knew they would. During the next "week" more unsubstantiated claims will come out which will need further delays.

Giving a "conditional" yes, means no. He gets nothing in return and now his constituents hate him.


We, his constituents, have always hated him. That's why he's not running again. The McCain machine can't push him through any longer.

Blogger Damelon Brinn September 28, 2018 2:58 PM  

Yes, because a Committee member can just tack conditions onto a bill in the middle of a vote, right? Does anyone think that's how it works? Or is jumping on the doom-and-gloom bandwagon too important to think first?

What actually happened was Flake was doing some virtual signaling about blah blah FBI something blah, and then Grassley said, "It's lunch time, bitches, get to voting so I can take food with my pills." 11-10, on to the Senate.

Blogger OGRE September 28, 2018 3:15 PM  

@111 Damelon Brinn

Its more than that. Yes its out of committee now, so its under the control of the Senate leadership. But Flake can condition his Yes vote on whatever he wants, in this case some bullshit FBI investigation. He doesn't get his investigation, he can vote No.

Heres the rub: His action now provides cover for other swing votes to also condition their vote on an FBI investigation. Most importantly, it allows the Dem Senators in Trump states to jump on board and gives them an excuse to vote no in spite of their constituents desires, and minimizes the fallout they might face with a no vote. Further, this puts the pressure onto the Senate Rep leadership and Trump himself over this call for an FBI investigation.

As far as the midterms were going, the Dems were high diving head first into an empty pool with this confirmation nonsense. Flake single handedly filled the pool up for them. They still might belly flop hard, but its no longer the guaranteed suicide that it was.

Blogger tuberman September 28, 2018 3:17 PM  

111. Damelon Brinn

"What actually happened was Flake was doing some virtual signaling about blah blah FBI something blah, and then Grassley said, "It's lunch time, bitches, get to voting so I can take food with my pills." 11-10, on to the Senate."

By golly, Brinn, me feelz (actually, I know), you have the real scoop.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash September 28, 2018 3:18 PM  

Flake's "constituents" now consist of the CNN/MSNBC producers that we wants to impress.

Blogger Unknown September 28, 2018 3:19 PM  

Murkowski now backing Flake's call for a one-week delay and FBI investigation.

Blogger Tars Tarkas September 28, 2018 3:21 PM  

Damelon Brinn wrote:Yes, because a Committee member can just tack conditions onto a bill in the middle of a vote, right? Does
These are 2 separate votes. One to move it out of committee and one on the floor. He has said he will vote yes to move it out of committee, but that he wants a week long delay for the floor vote or he does not vote yeah.
Damelon Brinn wrote:Or is jumping on the doom-and-gloom bandwagon too important to think first?
Not gloom and doom. I think he will eventually be confirmed. But that doesn't mean moderates can't virtue signal in the meanwhile.
Even without Flake, they can still get it through. But they need 50. There are two other Cucks cucking and virtue signalling.
This FBI investigation is total BS and everyone knows it. It is nothing but cowardice to further delay the vote.

Blogger Unknown September 28, 2018 3:54 PM  

Republicans just cucked again. The confirmation vote is delayed another week, and Flake gets his investigation.

Blogger Damelon Brinn September 28, 2018 3:56 PM  

Yes, Flake can condition his *next* vote in the full Senate on an investigation, or on the entire Senate singing a round of "For Flake is a jolly good fellow." He can demand or ask pretty please for whatever he wants.

It was being reported as if his condition was already inserted into *this* vote making it a requirement, which is not the case.

Blogger Dirk Manly September 28, 2018 3:57 PM  

@56

" Now we need to defang hr departments in general. People need to be able to defend themselves from real charges, not obscure rumors of charges."

I had that sort of nonsense happen to me while working in the IT dept. at Kmart headquarters in the late 1990's.

Fortunately, I ended up getting a new position that paid $15,000/year more

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother September 28, 2018 4:02 PM  

The World's Greatest Deliberative Body, indeed.

Blogger Dirk Manly September 28, 2018 4:10 PM  

@62

> Why the Barrett obsession? For fucks sake, why? Has she cured cancer? Decapitated Flynt/Wu?

Probably for the same reason that my local LUG keeps trying to come up with ideas of "how to get more women in the LUG". They're total idiots on this point -- we host PENGUICON every year.... and we have one woman (she's a 60-ish technical type, and therefor, only slightly more common than fish-juggling unicorns). It's not like tech-interested women (and even non-tech types) who would want to know about our LUG don't have the opportunity. I keep telling the guys: Mary is here because she is interested in Linux. The rest of them aren't here because they have other things that they feel are more important. But it's like talking to a brick wall. One guy tried dragging his wife along... that lasted for a while, then they BOTH stopped coming to meetings. Yea team! uh... whoopee... or something....

> Women don't belong on the Court, and will always turn out to be liberals, no matter their track record. Do not nominate a woman, ever...


Women don't understand
1) Principles
2) the idea that a decision can SET precedence. (They understand precedence in the past can be used as a precedence argument, but they seem to completely NOT comprehend the idea that just you can't push over the entire apple-cart just because someone comes along with a sob-story about how they found a worm in the particular apple they bought.

As a (male) judge said long ago: "Tough cases make bad precedents."

Blogger Chief_Tuscaloosa September 28, 2018 4:19 PM  

@74 @Azimus


"until there were none left to find" is something you say you used to be unable to understand but that's changed.

Then you say "drive them back to the gates of New York and Chicago and San Francisco, and keep them there."


Not saying you're wrong to hold the position of letting them have those 3 cities...but not the same as "until there were none left to find."


I'm sure the other side if they were to come out on top would let us keep Knoxville, Omaha, and Panama City Beach, right? Right?

Blogger VFM #7634 September 28, 2018 4:25 PM  

Problem is, the Demoncraps have a scuzzy a--hole lawyer on hand who has worked at the FBI, Michael Bromwich, who just happened to be on Ford's legal team.

There's a reason the Demoncraps are calling for an FBI investigation so stridently -- so this Bromwich turd can gum up the works against Judge K, if not actually sink him with BS.

Grassley did the right thing in steamrolling Flake with no conditions, but McTurtle needs to get wise to this scheme about Bromwich. I suggest constituents bring up Bromwich to their Senators.

Blogger Damelon Brinn September 28, 2018 4:33 PM  

The only word that Flake said today that was binding on anyone was "Yea." McConnell could go right ahead with the process tomorrow and have the vote Monday/Tuesday as planned, if he has the votes. If he doesn't have the votes because a few traitors are playing games, then he may have to bargain to convince them. That's not cucking, it's just how the process works when a vote is close.

When Grassley agreed to wait a few days for Ford to testify but set a deadline of Thursday for the testimony and Friday for the vote, a lot of people said, "OMG Cuck Grassley is going to let them drag it out past the midterms!!1!!!" He held the vote on Friday, right on schedule, and won it. I'll wait to see how Turtle Man does now before going Chicken Little.

What's sort of interesting is that it seems the Democrats thought Flake *was* putting an amendment on his vote that would stall it there pending an investigation, and were caught off guard when he voted a flat yes. Isn't it strange that guys like Flake and Graham are the ones confusing the Dems and keeping them a step behind? Their presumptive allies behind enemy lines don't seem to be acting quite like they expected. I think that's interesting.

Blogger Lance E September 28, 2018 4:33 PM  

This "supplemental FBI investigation" crap is unbelievable. Waiting 1 week means he won't be able to sit on the next session of SCOTUS, and the FBI has already stated that it's not their job to investigate these claims.

I wonder if McConnell will force a floor vote and dare Flake and his buddies to vote against. That would be the smart thing but I'm guessing not. Flake may not care about re-election anymore, but there's got to be other ways to punish him for his insolence.

Blogger Unknown September 28, 2018 4:44 PM  

I'll wait to see how Turtle Man does now before going Chicken Little.

Some of you guys are hours behind on your information. Which I understand because it's moving so quickly.

So to bring everyone up to speed: The GOP has agreed to grant the Democrats their FBI investigation. In the meantime, the actual Senate vote to confirm Kavanaugh has been postponed "no more than a week". This has been announced.

Blogger Balkan Yankee September 28, 2018 4:44 PM  

@123: Wikipedia says Bromwich was IG at DOJ from 94 to 99. He conducted an investigation into the FBI Lab during that time. So he definitely knows how investigations work and how they might be influenced. But I'm not finding any confirmations about actual employment at the FBI.

Blogger VFM #7634 September 28, 2018 4:58 PM  

So to bring everyone up to speed: The GOP has agreed to grant the Democrats their FBI investigation. In the meantime, the actual Senate vote to confirm Kavanaugh has been postponed "no more than a week". This has been announced.

Likely because Flake and the RINOettes aren't secured and on board with the FBI farce, and there's no point in jumping the gun and killing Judge K's nomination.

To be optimistic, Grassley played the Dems and Flake pretty well in getting Judge K out of committee. After all, Flake was originally going to vote "present".

Perhaps McConnell will do something similar in regards to the FBI. We can hope and pray.

Blogger S1AL September 28, 2018 5:03 PM  

My guess is that they present the testimony from the men who came forward and claimed they were there.

Blogger Tars Tarkas September 28, 2018 5:06 PM  

Damelon Brinn wrote:That's not cucking, it's just how the process works when a vote is close.

This is GOP cucking. Flake is cucking along with 2 others. The vote has already been delayed over a week and now we're talking another week.
God only knows how many more fake stories are going to come out. The Democrats don't do this shit. Had the Dems controlled the Senate in 2016, they would have made sure that vote happened.
I was sickened listening to Republican Senators bragging about how they voted for leftist judges when they were the minority.

Blogger Balkan Yankee September 28, 2018 5:12 PM  

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Blogger Balkan Yankee September 28, 2018 5:13 PM  

@128: "Perhaps McConnell will do something similar in regards to the FBI. We can hope and pray."

Why does the FBI even need a week to complete the "investigation"? They could send agents to talk to Kavanaugh, Ford, Judge, and the few other "non-witnesses and wrap it up in a day.

My guess is that Murkowski and Flake are in CYA mode and looking for something - like a pro forma FBI investigation - to inoculate themselves and the Republican Party from Dem charges of putting a "rapist" on the SC.

The Dems, of course, are now slaves to the Big Lie. Things never go well for such people in the end.

Blogger VFM #7634 September 28, 2018 5:19 PM  

Why does the FBI even need a week to complete the "investigation"? They could send agents to talk to Kavanaugh, Ford, Judge, and the few other "non-witnesses and wrap it up in a day.

Cornyn's office came out stating that a cloture vote is scheduled for tomorrow.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd September 28, 2018 5:23 PM  

Longtime Lurker wrote:My guess is that Murkowski and Flake are in CYA mode and looking for something - like a pro forma FBI investigation - to inoculate themselves and the Republican Party from Dem charges of putting a "rapist" on the SC.

Murkowski is an arrogant leftist, and a swamp creature from infancy. She's doing this to pull the Left's fat from the fire.

Blogger Balkan Yankee September 28, 2018 5:24 PM  

Hot off the Press: "Trump orders new FBI investigation into Kavanaugh after Senate request"

President Trump will authorize the FBI to conduct a supplemental background investigation into Judge Brett Kavanaugh regarding multiple sexual misconduct allegations against the Supreme Court nominee, the White House confirmed Friday.

“I’ve ordered the FBI to conduct a supplemental investigation to update Judge Kavanaugh’s file. As the Senate has requested, this update must be limited in scope and completed in less than one week,” White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders tweeted Friday.

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/409031-trump-to-order-new-fbi-investigation-into-kavanaugh-after-senate

Blogger Balkan Yankee September 28, 2018 5:25 PM  

@134: "Murkowski is an arrogant leftist."

That actually made me laugh.

Blogger OGRE September 28, 2018 5:26 PM  

Lance E wrote:Waiting 1 week means he won't be able to sit on the next session of SCOTUS


No, it doesn't prevent him from serving the upcoming term. He can take his seat on the bench immediately upon being confirmed. (Gorsuch was sworn in 3 days after the Senate voted to confirm.) He would miss the oral argument on whatever cases are presented during this time, but I'm not certain if that precludes him from ruling on those cases or not.

The reason the Oct 1 deadline is important is because after that the Dems can run the narrative of "Well the courts already in session, so whats the rush now?" along with whatever other delay tactic they come up with (and they will come up with one.) The goal is delay till after the elections. They needed 5 weeks; Flake just gave them one and an opportunity to grab more.

Blogger Lovekraft September 28, 2018 5:29 PM  

We are going to see feminist sky-is-falling screeching like never before. They are invested so deep in this that doubling down is inevitable.

Blogger Balkan Yankee September 28, 2018 5:33 PM  

@137: "They needed 5 weeks; Flake just gave them one and an opportunity to grab more."

Yes he did. But Trump's order to FBI said the investigation must be "limited in scope and completed in less than one week."

Congress can call for an FBI investigation. Congress can even give the FBI as much time as Congress wants to conduct said investigation. But Congress cannot order the FBI to do a damn thing, except appear for testimony.

The God Emperor is still in charge!

Blogger Crew September 28, 2018 5:44 PM  

I think President Trump should have had Flake arrested long ago rather than letting him resign and serve out his term.

Oh well, water under the bridge, but I do wonder if he will now unseal some of the indictments and sling a few senators in jail next week.

Blogger Crew September 28, 2018 5:44 PM  

@138: Just plug your ears ... and if assaulted protect your self.

Blogger Unknown September 28, 2018 5:45 PM  

@132 Why does the FBI even need a week to complete the "investigation"? They could send agents to talk to Kavanaugh, Ford, Judge, and the few other "non-witnesses and wrap it up in a day.

Ford's lawyer is now saying that one week is nowhere near enough time for an actual investigation. You can read between the lines there that her client will somehow not be available in the coming week.

So now it comes down to a question of whether or not the Dems and squish Reps will find a one-week limitation satisfactory. Don't be surprised if this time next week we see Flake and Murkowski call for the investigation to continue.

Blogger Damelon Brinn September 28, 2018 6:00 PM  

FBI: "[picks up phone] Hello, FBI here."
McConnell: "Hey, would you guys like to do a seventh investigation on Kavanaugh?"
FBI: "No, I think we're good. Guy's a choir boy."
McConnell: "Thanks, have a good day. [turns] Okay, let's vote."

Yeah, I know it won't happen that way. But that would be great, wouldn't it?

There's a reason the Demoncraps are calling for an FBI investigation so stridently -- so this Bromwich turd can gum up the works against Judge K, if not actually sink him with BS.

I'm sure they'll try. But does anyone think they haven't already been trying? If it were that easy to invent evidence and produce people willing to give false testimony under oath, Donald Trump would not be President. Remember all those women the Dems claimed were going to accuse him any day now, and not a single one ever has?

They've been working on this at least since July, and all they were able to produce was one woman who gave such a vague story about nothing that there's hardly anything specific enough to perjure herself, and a couple names of other women who may or may not exist who supposedly were ready to accuse him of stuff out of Penthouse Letters: Extra Rapey Edition. That's all they could drum up over several weeks or more. I don't think it'll be that easy to invent something new in less than a week and make it even as credible as the first farce.

The picture that's starting to emerge is that they actually planned this back in 2012 when Romney said Kavanaugh was on the top of his list. That explains what she said about telling her husband then and the therapy setup. It also helps explain why they didn't put up more of a fight against Gorsuch. They were ready for Kavanaugh and didn't have anything nearly as good on Gorsuch, and since he didn't swing the Court anyway, they kept their powder dry for Kavanaugh. If that's true, it means they've been prepping this smear campaign for four years and still couldn't make it convincing for anyone to the right of Rosie O'Donnell.

I'm not saying it's in the bag, but I think there's plenty of reason for optimism. At worst, McConnell honestly only has 47-48 votes, in which case he and Trump start sweet-talking and/or twisting arms, whichever fits.

Blogger SirHamster September 28, 2018 6:07 PM  

An interesting take on the delay and FBI investigation is that this serves as a useful trap by Trump on the Democrats.

We're all pissed off already that Kavanaugh has been dragged through the mud, but the moderate normies still have a mindset that maybe we should split the difference and get an FBI investigation just to be sure.

We aren't blaming Trump for this, this is on the Dems. The normies are seeing Trump playing nice, even as folks like us are yelling at Trump and the Repubs to ignore the Dems and confirm. This builds up Trump's cred with the normies.

Will the Dems play nice back? Of course not. How will the normies feel about that? I trust Trump has the next few moves gamed out to exploit what comes next. Man is a genius, we need to push on truth and principles and trust him to work his magic.

Blogger Jandolin September 28, 2018 6:09 PM  

There is no need to watch the body language analysis of Christine Blasey Ford on youtube when it is available on bitchute.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/5uv6SHt1Z5Gm/

Blogger Damelon Brinn September 28, 2018 6:09 PM  

I think President Trump should have had Flake arrested long ago

Yeah, I think he owns Flake, which is one reason I'm not that concerned. I've thought that since the tax bill. The Dems/media were begging Flake and the other usual suspects to sink it. Flake did some grandstanding about how evil it was -- and then voted for it. They all did. My memory is hazy, but didn't he even do something similar where he said he wanted to change some things even while he voted for it without those changes?

So far in this case, all he's done is grandstand -- and vote yes again.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother September 28, 2018 6:19 PM  

Holy shit you can't even keep up with it!

https://twitter.com/WiredSources/status/1045799223923552256?s=19

Blogger Man of the Atom September 28, 2018 6:23 PM  

A "No" is not a lock for Manchin, McCaskill, and Heitcamp. They are deep in Trump Territory, and that could make for tougher times for them in November. More to come.

Blogger Crew September 28, 2018 6:36 PM  

It is interesting that President Trump's tweet on Judge Kavanaugh has had 295,000+ likes.

Blogger Balkan Yankee September 28, 2018 6:38 PM  

@142: "Ford's lawyer is now saying that one week is nowhere near enough time for an actual investigation. You can read between the lines there that her client will somehow not be available in the coming week."

Wouldn't that be obstruction of an FBI investigation? I look forward to TGE's tweets in that event.

Blogger Unknown September 28, 2018 6:38 PM  

Wouldn't that be obstruction of an FBI investigation?

Not when a Democrat does it.

Blogger Mandos September 28, 2018 6:41 PM  

On the bright side, we are now reliably informed Justice Kavanaugh will vote for RWDS come the time.

Blogger tuberman September 28, 2018 6:50 PM  

Just wait (as usual), get your popcorn ready, and maybe some beer, This worm will turn, as usual, as the God-Emperor will turn it...he has, every time, during his whole reign.

Many here have become smarter though.

Blogger Balkan Yankee September 28, 2018 6:58 PM  

@153: Concur. But first comes tomorrow's Senate cloture vote.

Blogger SirHamster September 28, 2018 7:00 PM  

Stg58/Animal Mother wrote:Holy shit you can't even keep up with it!

https://twitter.com/WiredSources/status/1045799223923552256?s=19


Deleted tweet. Summary?

Blogger Man of the Atom September 28, 2018 7:06 PM  

SirHamster wrote:Stg58/Animal Mother wrote:Holy shit you can't even keep up with it!

https://twitter.com/WiredSources/status/1045799223923552256?s=19


Deleted tweet. Summary?


Might be this:
BREAKING: Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell announces on the Senate floor that all 51 Republican Senators support proceeding to nomination of SCOTUS nominee Brett Kavanaugh

Blogger Damelon Brinn September 28, 2018 7:20 PM  

I'm calling it as 53 for Kavanaugh with Flake abstaining at worst, but I think he votes yes.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother September 28, 2018 7:21 PM  

Yep that was it.

Blogger Balkan Yankee September 28, 2018 7:30 PM  

@156: "BREAKING: Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell announces on the Senate floor that all 51 Republican Senators support proceeding to nomination of SCOTUS nominee Brett Kavanaugh."

That would be the final procedural step before the actual vote.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother September 28, 2018 7:56 PM  

http://imgur.com/gallery/r7a4zzP

Blogger Damelon Brinn September 28, 2018 7:57 PM  

The way I read that: "You idiots may get your fake investigation, but we're going ahead with our process at the same time, so the clock is already ticking. As soon as that's done, it's on."

Blogger Pseudotsuga September 28, 2018 8:08 PM  

The screams of anguish from the Liberati, as their smiling mask of tolerance slips, sounds like music.
The desperately angry posts of various "progressive" people makes it clear to me that giving in to them, hoping that they'll see "us" play nice and play nice back, is folly.
The left thinks people like you and are just evil, and it is useless to try to convince them otherwise.
It took decades for this to finally come into the open.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother September 28, 2018 8:10 PM  

The wife and children are not leaving the house the day Kavanagh is confirmed.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother September 28, 2018 8:19 PM  

Damelon is on to something. TGE said two things:

Supplemental: a morning long review of sworn affidavits and sworn statements for consistency.

Less than a week: Monday morning.

Trump still keeps his word. And Kavanagh is confirmed.

Blogger DJT September 28, 2018 9:05 PM  

But Trump's order to FBI said the investigation must be "limited in scope and completed in less than one week."

I hope the GOP sticks to that timeline better than everything else. Come next Friday, I bet a Very Credible(tm) accuser will come forward.

Grassley should have ignored their howling from the start. "The Senate does not investigate crimes," is all he had to say.

Blogger Damelon Brinn September 28, 2018 9:07 PM  

@163, that seems wise. They really are losing it, and it's hard to tell when that'll spill out of social media into the real world. In a bigger way than it already has in isolated events, I mean.

I'm no expert on Senate rules and I'm seeing different things, but it appears to take 3-5 days to get from starting the confirmation to final vote, depending on whether someone filibusters to the limit. So I'm not sure whether they could have the final vote before Tuesday or so anyway. McConnell saying "Surprise, we already voted without you to start" tonight seems like it would move it up a bit.

Of course, Ford's lawyer is predictably demanding more time, but that's nonsense. No one sane thinks she gave them enough to keep them busy for a day, let alone a week. What are they supposed to investigate, when she can't tell them when or where and none of the people she named remember anything? They have more questions to investigate on her now than on Kavanaugh. This is all about giving Flake and the girls cover so they can tell their women and white knight supporters that they did due diligence.

Blogger DJT September 28, 2018 9:14 PM  

I'm no expert on Senate rules and I'm seeing different things, but it appears to take 3-5 days to get from starting the confirmation to final vote, depending on whether someone filibusters to the limit.

IIRC there is mandatory 30 hours debate and no filibuster.

They should start at midnight tonight and vote at 6 am Sunday.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother September 28, 2018 9:16 PM  

Trump tweeted about an hour ago that the investigation has already started....

He's a wily bastard.

Blogger Silent Draco September 28, 2018 9:22 PM  

@166 Damelon, the woman prosecutor put Ford and her lawyers in the middle of a minefield on live TV. Asked about Ford having and explaining what a forensic interview was. No, not done. Did her attorney recommend one, done in CA? No. Do you understand that this five minute block of live interview is a poor substitute? Uh, yeah I guess so.

FBI can use it as a getaway card. The alleged victim's memory and testimony were compromised from the start. Any follow up based on this as a starting point is already flawed.

Blogger Pepper September 28, 2018 9:30 PM  

So somebody mentioned Thomas Wictor, apparently he has been disappeared from twitter today.

Blogger Unknown September 28, 2018 9:30 PM  

Sundance explains one of several ways this can be stretched out past midterms. Bureaucrats and lawyers are paid huge $$ to know a gazillion more. Watch Flake get a very cushy CNN commentator job in 2019.

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/09/28/president-trump-concedes-requests-limited-fbi-investigation-of-brett-kavanaugh-democrats-respond-this-is-only-one-step-in-the-process/

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother September 28, 2018 9:31 PM  

The key to this is in Trump's language. He's up to something.

Blogger Damelon Brinn September 28, 2018 9:36 PM  

Some leftist group is now attacking Graham and claiming he has Russian ties. They're going to turn the Republicans into a united force of shitlords.

Blogger Damelon Brinn September 28, 2018 9:39 PM  

@1722 Stg58, Yeah, I don't like to be all "4D chess" without something to go on, but he agreed to the investigation awfully easily. Makes you wonder where else it might lead. Ford's sponsors, maybe?

Blogger Kat September 28, 2018 9:43 PM  

NARAL has already come out and said that Kavanaugh can't be seated even if the FBI clears him.

I'm increasingly hopeful that Trump is once again creating chaos in order to strike at our enemies.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd September 28, 2018 9:47 PM  

Longtime Lurker wrote:@134: "Murkowski is an arrogant leftist."

That actually made me laugh.


Alaskans aren't laughing.

Blogger Looking Glass September 28, 2018 10:18 PM  

Remember with the DACA stuff? Trump gaslit his own side because it served to get people animated. (There was no deal, so Trump could extract a lot utility by setting up a Left of Center position on the topic. He keep the Left into a small box of positions that never existed a deal for.) The Left has dishonored & disrespected Kavanaugh to a level that makes the mushy middle get angry about it.

Letting the Left go insane, right into the mid-terms, is useful to Trump & his agenda. Now that Kavanaugh is out of committee, it's really just a Dog & Pony Show for the cameras. We just need some Lefties to burn down part of a college to really make it lit.

Kavanaugh is full-scale establishment pick, which in hindsight was brilliant from Trump. Trump read the Senate and picked someone the GOPe had to get through, otherwise they'll lose their own standing in DC. But it also means the votes are assured and they're just working the optics angle. Vote is still probably Tuesday with Pence there in case someone takes a dive.

The key thing, I think, to watch for is which of the Dems up for reelection vote for Kavanaugh. The ones that are already toast will vote No. That means MO and IN are flips. Pretty sure OH & ND as well, given I think I all saw them declare as No's. Manchin (WV) appears to be a Yes, which makes sense, as he's the most politically stable in his home state. A bunch of Senators are clearly playing for their post-politics career prospects.

Blogger Looking Glass September 28, 2018 10:19 PM  

Assume nothing; gameplan everything. Useful in most instances.

Blogger Pepper September 28, 2018 11:06 PM  

I'll tell you who the FBI needs to investigate. GoFundMe.

The democrats are using it for severe money laundering. Peter Strzok, some other criminals I can't remember at this point, and now this. https://www.gofundme.com/mvc.php?route=homepage_norma/search&term=christine%20blasey%20ford

Blogger OGRE September 28, 2018 11:30 PM  

@166 Damelon Brinn

The procedure once the nomination moves out of committee is to first bring the nomination up for consideration and debate. As the senate begins its day in legislative session, and nominations and treaties are considered in executive session, normal legislative business will be considered before any nominations. The senate can move to executive session and consideration of the nomination by either 1) unanimous consent and scheduling a vote (not going to happen), or 2) a motion to proceed to consideration, which is a non-debatable motion that gets voted on immediately. Thats the first vote and should be relatively easy to secure. It might already have been done, I can't tell from the news I've read.

Once the motion to proceed is passed, the senate moves into executive session and can consider and debate the nomination. At this point opposition senators can attempt a filibuster. In order to end debate subject to a filibuster a motion for cloture can be made. This would be the second vote and requires a simple majority to approve. The vote on the motion for cloture is to occur in the first hour of business on the second day after the motion is made. (Most cloture motions require 3/5 vote, but recent changes to cloture motions for judicial nominations requires only a majority vote.) If the motion for cloture is approved, then the final vote on the nomination is to be had within 30 hours.

So as of Friday night, as there has been no cloture motion made yet, the earliest possible time a vote could be had would be on Tuesday. If a motion for cloture is made on Saturday, the vote on the motion would be had on Monday morning, and a final vote could be had by the end of Tuesday. The cloture motion is the trigger, once that is made then the clock starts ticking (30 hours after the first hour on the second day).

Blogger OGRE September 28, 2018 11:38 PM  

@177 Looking Glass

Spot on on all that. Kavanaugh is a long term establishment DC guy with a pristine squeaky clean record and a top notch resume. If hes susceptible to this kind of attack, everybody is. Thats got to scare the hell out of a ton of Senators.

Manchin will be a Yes vote for Kavanaugh in the end unless he'd be the one making the deciding vote, in which case it will be no. He'll find any cover he can to avoid this vote. Polls are listing him as even with Morrissey here, but this is deep Trump country. The only thing keeping Morrissey from taking the lead is hes viewed as a non-native whereas Manchin is WV born and bred with a name thats been in WV politics for decades. But if he votes against Kavanaugh here it will almost certainly cost him the race.

Blogger Gettimothy September 29, 2018 1:46 AM  

@170 stealth Jeff (drawandstrike) says so.

https://threadreaderapp.com/user/drawandstrike

Blogger DJT September 29, 2018 7:02 AM  

Remember with the DACA stuff? Trump gaslit his own side because it served to get people animated.

I sincerely hope not. Most of the Trump supporters I know IRL are becoming quite despondent over the lack of major, stick-it-to-em victories of late. Kavanaugh should have been moving into his office by now.

In his real estate mind, Trump is good at playing and winning the long game. But many of his voters are so beat down they need a stream of victories. They want to see Trump knocking these people's lights out, not deferring to the likes of Flake.

If McConnell can't motivate Republicans to vote for Kavanaugh in the face of obviously fake accusations, then there is no way they will keep control of either house. Republicans voters are happy to stay home and lose in order to punish Republican politicians.

Maybe the GOP swamp creatures already plan to lose control of congress, and are cucking to save face with the media.

Blogger Crew September 29, 2018 9:41 AM  

Why was Jeff Flake coordinating with Rod Rosenstein?

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/09/what-last-person-senator-jeff-flake-called-before-asking-for-another-week-of-supreme-insanity-was-dag-rod-rosenstein/

Blogger Damelon Brinn September 29, 2018 11:43 AM  

@184 And it was reported that Rosenstein's meeting with the president was postponed until next week. Media assumed that was because Trump was obsessively watching the hearing and couldn't break away for a second. That's silly. But it's almost like both situations, seemingly separate, are proceeding along the same timeline.

Blogger CYGNUS FACETIOUS September 29, 2018 8:41 PM  

buzzardist wrote:If anything good comes out of this dumpster fire confirmation battle, it's that Kavanaugh has gone through a deeply eye-opening experience about how much the Left hates him. IF this doesn't affect his jurisprudence in a positive way going forward, then he is the coldest SOB alive.
Every Justice ought to be hazed by the cat ladies like this, it's sure to have salutory cuck antigen value.

Purge187 wrote:There aren't enough adjectives in all of the world languages combined to describe how sick to death I am of Western women.

Withered prune-cunted boomer whores will not divide us.

Azimus wrote:The Biblical accounts of how the Davidic armies pursued the Phillistines for days, cutting them down without mercy until there were none left to find, always struck me as cruel and barbarous. That has changed.

It helps when their legionnaires wear knitted pink galeae. Mid-terms will be their Cannae: except this time, Hannibal will hold a triumph in Rome.

Blogger Gettimothy September 30, 2018 2:26 AM  

@170 if the accounts are legit, then both drawandstrike and thomas wictor are on gab.


https://gab.ai/drawandstrike

https://gab.ai/Thomas_Wictor

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