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Saturday, September 29, 2018

High school never ends

The media appears to be on the verge of discovering the socio-sexual hierarchy:
Is this the genesis of a new Sailer’s Law?

The most passionate tweets by male journalists tend to be demands that, Come the Revolution, the guys who beat out the journalists in getting the girls in high school will be destroyed in their adult lives.

The late Tom Wolfe suggested something similar in Back to Blood, in which an old editor, Topping, reflects upon young reporter John Smith. Only Wolfe thinks it all starts ten years younger:

If you ask me, newspaper reporters are created at age six when they first go to school. In the schoolyard boys immediately divide into two types. Immediately! There are those who have the will to be daring and dominate, and those who don’t have it. … But there are boys from the weaker side of the divide who grow up with the same dreams as the stronger … The boy standing before me, John Smith, is one of them. They, too, dream of power, money, fame, and beautiful lovers.
The sort of men who go into journalism tend to be gammas. Just look at the average high school boy working on the school paper or college man majoring in journalism. That's why so many of them get themselves into trouble once they climb the ranks, become a public face, start amassing real money and influence, and find themselves in the position of being a situational alpha. They simply don't have the self-control that the young alpha naturally develops over time and their ability to rationalize their actions is off the charts because gamma.

But in truth, it's more that elementary school never ends. That's the age where most people appear to be stamped into what more or less remains their final form. Even the late-bloomers who transform themselves over time tend to more or less retain that early form on the inside.

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40 Comments:

Blogger Daniele Grech Pereira September 29, 2018 5:55 AM  

I'm a life taker and a heart breaker. Gammas btfo.

Anonymous Anonymous September 29, 2018 6:03 AM  

Piers Morgan.

All you need to know.

Blogger Tom Rogers September 29, 2018 6:04 AM  

If high school messes you in the head that much, why go?

Blogger VD September 29, 2018 6:06 AM  

It's obligatory in most states.

Blogger JACIII September 29, 2018 6:27 AM  

Situational Alpha = (Creeper) but he has a Porsche!

Blogger JACIII September 29, 2018 6:29 AM  

Tom Rogers wrote:If high school messes you in the head that much, why go?
VD wrote:It's obligatory in most states.

And obligatory enough in the others that your average Jane is unaware of the possibility of homeschool.

Blogger Silent Draco September 29, 2018 6:34 AM  

Self-control follows from a well developed negative feedback loop system, with mostly or completely stable response. Gammas have unstable systems, with large areas of positive feedback loops. Quickly go out of control.

Amazing what a couple knock-downs on the playground, or an occasional locker crash, can do as negative feedback. You learn fast. Self-esteem, participation trophies, niceness? Nope, all positive feedback enablers.

Blogger Warunicorn September 29, 2018 6:37 AM  

I was mentioning to my brother the other day that SJWs act in adult life like they did in high school. Platforms like Twitter and Facebook feed into their continuing popularity addiction.

Blogger John Rockwell September 29, 2018 6:48 AM  

Maybe high school needs to be scuttled. And replaced with superior alternatives.

Blogger ScottC September 29, 2018 7:02 AM  

Do gammas have any redeeming qualities, Vox? You really lay into these creatures, but they can't be total disasters. If they have the ability to climb the ranks, they're able to demonstrate competence at something.

Blogger VD September 29, 2018 7:07 AM  

Do gammas have any redeeming qualities, Vox?

Of course. That's what makes them such a pain. On average they are smarter than the norm. They support entire industries with their peculiar and obsessive enthusiasms. They are romantic and they often genuinely harbor noble aspirations. They are often subject matter experts and they have contributed greatly to science and technological development. They offer support, material and emotional, to women without expecting much in return. They are more verbally skilled than most.

And they tend to be highly skilled political game players.

Blogger Tim from Nashua September 29, 2018 7:08 AM  

Or the Gammas get into music because, shiksas.

Blogger Ingot9455 September 29, 2018 7:49 AM  

The studies on the David Keirsey/Myers-Briggs 16 temperaments agree. Your temperament is essentially set by the time you are six. The only variations in it are those who on the survey find themselves measured in the middle and able to go either way situationally.

Blogger Unknown September 29, 2018 8:12 AM  

Scott C wrote:Do gammas have any redeeming qualities, Vox?

It's probably also worth reiterating that the socio-sexual hierarchy isn't a good-bad scale, it's a predictive tool to help you identify behavior patterns and help keep you from relying on the wrong people for the wrong tasks. Any of them can destroy a company if put in the wrong circumstances.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan September 29, 2018 8:25 AM  

My memory is spotty but hasn't it been mentioned here that women sniff out gamma and are repulsed by it?

Blogger LibertyPortraits September 29, 2018 8:36 AM  

We've come a long way since Mencken.

Blogger tuberman September 29, 2018 8:39 AM  

Response to bullies at an early age may determine a lot about gamma directions. Also, if a guy gets bitter or neurotic from the social hierarchy.

Also, early knowledge that dominance can easily change is something that many don't believe early. When I got around to mentoring in my 20's, this was the first principle I stated to the kids a half generation younger then me...that the rungs on the ladder are often not set in stone.

One can go to the gym or the Martial arts schools, or take up boxing or wrestling. If you catch fire in an area of interest, or even several areas, you can learn more real material on it in six months then in four years in school. Then there is getting out in the world and "doing." Doing is critical, and the people that interest me are people who do things.

Blogger LZ September 29, 2018 8:40 AM  

Kavanaugh's beer comment was the most triggering thing he said. I was shocked at how many "bro" tweets poured out. Hijacked the hearings.

Blogger Blunt Force September 29, 2018 9:35 AM  

Regardless what anyone thinks of drug crazed , alcohol fueled Hunter, he definitively skewers the press here.

“The press is a gang of cruel faggots. Journalism is not a profession or a trade. It is a cheap catch-all for fuckoffs and misfits—a false doorway to the backside of life, a filthy piss-ridden little hole nailed off by the building inspector, but just deep enough for a wino to curl up from the sidewalk and masturbate like a chimp in a zoo-cage.”

― Hunter S. Thompson, Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas

Blogger ZhukovG September 29, 2018 10:38 AM  

One thing I have gathered from the socio-sexual hierarchy is that, in general, people are not very good judges of their own position in the hierarchy.

I also suspect that some positions in the hierarchy are 'natural', with a basis in genetics, while others are learned.

Blogger Robert What? September 29, 2018 10:40 AM  

Our final form is pretty much stamped in elementary school? Now there's a depressing thought.

Blogger VD September 29, 2018 10:44 AM  

Now there's a depressing thought.

It shouldn't be. Once you know the true situation, you can act to alter it in your favor.

Blogger Dave September 29, 2018 11:00 AM  

Vox, do you think Kavanaugh is a situational Alpha? He claimed to be friends with many girls in high school and talked to them nightly on the phone, but didn't have sex until well into his college years, I believe he said. A gamma wouldn't have so many close female friends, or does his being an only child reared by a strong female role model play into it? Also appears to coach only female sports teams.

Blogger VD September 29, 2018 11:03 AM  

Not an Alpha. My guess would be Delta, but a high-status Delta given his family situation.

Blogger Lovekraft September 29, 2018 11:25 AM  

Vox, would a drive to expose the press to lawsuits for slander/defamation of character have any merit? As far as I know, they have some sort of special protection in the U.S.

In Canada, there is a lawsuit against some leftist rag for publishing unfounded allegations against some politician.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/brown-ontario-pc-libel-suit-1.4550333

Blogger Ominous Cowherd September 29, 2018 11:39 AM  

JACIII wrote:And obligatory enough in the others that your average Jane is unaware of the possibility of homeschool.

I was homeschooled through high school 40 years ago. The average family cares about free babysitting and sports a great deal, and their kids very little. Average Jane can't wait to have 'em out of the house.

Blogger Francis Parker Yockey September 29, 2018 1:02 PM  

A related Sailer piece:

https://vdare.com/posts/back-to-school-the-future-journos-think-kavanaugh-is-the-guy-who-bullied-them-in-high-school
https://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/

Sailer cites a couple of Tim Wise tweets as examples. Wise has made a career out of promoting anti-white hatred, and in this instance as well he is motivated, not only by resentment of his place in the sociosexual hierarchy, but by animus toward the goyim in general, and whites in particular.

Wise uses 80s movies to illustrate his conception of the archetypal object of his hatred (which Kavanaugh represents). It's not a coincidence that all of the evil Chads in these movies are blond. Many of those who were involved on making these movies were fellow tribesmen of Wise -- and felt as he does.

2014/11/09/eye-on-hollywood-reel-bad-wasps/

https://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2014/11/07/anti-white-themes-in-hollywood-movies/

Blogger Johnny September 29, 2018 1:08 PM  

The thing about jurnalists is that they are basically writers, with only a minimum of speciality skill. And it is publish or perish. Plus, usually, they are writing in areas where they have little or not expertee. Thus they are pretty much locked into staying with the standard narrative.

I suppose it is not too surprising that they easily turn SJW. It gives a sense of importance, a (by their lights) moral cause.

Blogger DonReynolds September 29, 2018 1:16 PM  

Journalists seem to be a lot younger than they were in the past. There was a time when editors refused to hire punks fresh out of school, because they lacked experience in the real world...away from their parent's protection. College was nice, but it was no substitute for being in the real world.

One look at the White House press corps and mostly what I see are cute young girls and baby-faced punks, mostly less than ten years out of school. There are a few of the older veteran reporters left, but they seldom seem to ask any questions. (They save those for exclusive interviews with deep state bureaucrats.)

Blogger justaguy September 29, 2018 1:57 PM  

Aren't the schools of today so much different than those of Boomers and Gen X that we have no points of comparison? For the hierarchy, it seems that the schools are reverting to discipline camps that utterly dominate the boys and empower the girls to be the nguards helpers in keeping the boys down. The only that hierarchy develops seems to be one for the girls-- and mean girls from what I can tell. I mean sex is pretty much available in ways that it wasn't before...

Anonymous Anonymous September 29, 2018 2:43 PM  

situational alpha

Like a Julian Assange falling for honeytraps.

Anonymous Anonymous September 29, 2018 2:47 PM  

@19 Before Daniel Dale was writing snarky news articles about how often Trump "lies" or eavesdropping on Bloomberg reporters' OTR talks, he was stalking Rob Ford in his backyard. Yes, he's just as soylent in person as you would expect.

Blogger Dad29 September 29, 2018 2:48 PM  

I'd quibble with you and posit that the die is cast in middle school (6th through 8th grades) but no question about it, adults generally act just like they did when they had zits.

Anonymous Anonymous September 29, 2018 2:51 PM  

@25 The Patrick Brown hatchet job was because they wanted three women up against each other in the recent Ontario election. Rob Ford's brother Doug walked in and stole it, then winning the premiership. This has now been retconned into saying that Ford was behind Brown's ouster, when in reality it was a bunch of fairest amongst thousands, altogether lovely cultists.

Anonymous Anonymous September 29, 2018 2:54 PM  

@29 They hired an old girlfriend of mine on the basis that she was Auburn's student paper editor. She only got her masters later, and now works for some David Brock outfit IIRC. We no longer talk due to my Trump support. Sad!

Blogger Lovekraft September 29, 2018 3:53 PM  

@ 32 Sagramore:

speaking of leftist rag Toronto Star, they're charging a monthly $20 subscription, and the comments are a roastathon.

https://twitter.com/TorontoStar/status/1045719178597076993

Blogger Edgar Abbey September 29, 2018 6:10 PM  

When I think of most journalists, I think of the character of Ellsworth Toohey in Ayn Rand's THE FOUNTAINHEAD. He was a physically weak child who resented the stronger boys, and as a physically weak man, the resentment consumed him until it became his life's goal to seek out and destroy innovators, anyone who stood out taller than the rest in whatever field.

Blogger flyingtiger September 29, 2018 10:07 PM  

#9 Rockwell.
Amen. Today's High School is obsolete. In my day it served as a baby sitting service and for sports teams. Today, children can get better trained in sports by traveling teams, who have real coaches. As for baby sitting, is it good to isolate immature students together. They need to spend more time with adults. Today's are too expensive to maintain. The taxes are too heavy. Schools need to change with the times, but I do not know how.

Blogger Zeroh Tollrants September 29, 2018 10:29 PM  

Charlie Rose, Matt Lauer, Glenn Thrush, etc.

Blogger The Scribe September 30, 2018 12:35 PM  

J-School survivor here, and I completely agree.

I fully expected it to be filled with liberals when I was in, back 20 years ago. What I didn't expect was the level of prissiness, snobbery, nascent alcoholism, and "right, no matter what!" i.e., secret kings that was in that levels there.

Something else I noticed among most of the guys was their ability to hook up as rapidly as they did. They were claiming to get a lot of sex, but from the girls I would see them with, they were never higher than a 6. Also, none of these "relationships" survived more than two months, it seemed.

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