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Wednesday, September 05, 2018

Israel arming ISIS

Because the enemy of your friend is your... friend?
IDF has forced the Jerusalem Post to remove its explosive report on the Israeli military giving weapons to the Syrian rebels, the newspaper’s managing editor confirmed to RT.

“We were told by the army’s military censor to remove that part of the story,” David Brinn, the managing editor of the Jerusalem Post told RT as he replied to a request for comment. The report, ‘IDF confirms: Israel provided light-weapons to Syrian rebels,’ which claimed that the Israeli military acknowledged for the first time that it had provided money, weapons and ammunition to the Syrian militants, was removed just hours after being published without any explanation.

According to Brinn, the story was removed “for security reasons evidently.” The IDF told RT that it would not comment on the issue.

The Jerusalem Post article was removed shortly after being published, but a version of the article can still be read using Google cache

It claimed that regular supplies of light weapons and ammunition to the Syrian militants holding the territories near the Israeli border were part of the Operation Good Neighbor, which Israel portrayed as a humanitarian mission, which was focused on providing Syrians with “food, clothes and fuel.” Israel has been arming at least seven different armed groups in Syria’s Golan Heights, the report said.
The USA really needs to stay out of the Middle East and let them all kill each other if they are so inclined. Americans have no national interests there. Even the oil is now unnecessary.

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64 Comments:

Blogger Salt September 05, 2018 2:24 PM  

We were warned not meddle in foreign affairs. But we were a young country, still are in many respects, and warning a child not to do something is like waving a red flag in front of a bull.

Blogger VFM Bear September 05, 2018 2:25 PM  

Hmmm, direct press censorship by the military.

Somebody alert the ACLU ... or maybe the UNHRC...

I'm keeping a straight face, honest injun.

Blogger Long Live The West September 05, 2018 2:39 PM  

Amen. Bring all our soldiers home. This is something the left and right should be able to agree upon correct?

Down with evil white imperialism!

Blogger Unknown September 05, 2018 2:40 PM  

Americans have expressed plainly that we want out of the Middle East. Voting doesn't seem to do anything though.

Blogger Damn Crackers September 05, 2018 2:40 PM  

"I'm shocked, shocked to find that gambling is going on in here!" Now, how much aid did the US and the Saudis provide to these rebels too?

Blogger Miguel September 05, 2018 3:01 PM  

Needless to say that this post is yet another holocaust.

Anonymous Anonymous September 05, 2018 3:05 PM  

This is suicidally stupid. Where did the IDF get the idea that it is their job to arm Israel's enemies?

On what planet does this make the slightest lick of sense?

Blogger Chris Mallory September 05, 2018 3:08 PM  

Resident Moron™ wrote:Where did the IDF get the idea that it is their job to arm Israel's enemies?

Where did you get the idea that AQ and ISIS are "Israel's enemies"?
Both are good at killing other Muslims, but they never seem to attack Israel.

Blogger ghostfromplanetspook September 05, 2018 3:14 PM  

SHUT IT DOWN

Blogger Ominous Cowherd September 05, 2018 3:20 PM  

Chris Mallory wrote:Where did you get the idea that AQ and ISIS are "Israel's enemies"?

Both are good at killing other Muslims, but they never seem to attack Israel.


The US, on the other hand ...

Blogger Latigo3 September 05, 2018 3:21 PM  

Idiots. Agreed, we need to stay out of that part of the world.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash September 05, 2018 3:24 PM  

Resident Moron™ wrote:Where did the IDF get the idea that it is their job to arm Israel's enemies?


Where did the US get the same idea, about the same people, in the same place?
Surfaces appearances can be very deceiving.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd September 05, 2018 3:32 PM  

Snidely Whiplash wrote:Where did the US get the same idea, about the same people, in the same place?

Surfaces appearances can be very deceiving.


On the surface, it appears that the US ruling class believes that Israel is their friend, and Americans their enemy. I don't think that surface appearances are deceiving us, in this case.

Anonymous Anonymous September 05, 2018 3:40 PM  

"Where did you get the idea that AQ and ISIS are "Israel's enemies"?"

Fair point.

But the jihadi head-choppers are utterly unreliable allies. They're inherently treacherous paranoiacs. Arming them is not merely stupid but a gross dereliction of duty. Treason, imho.

Blogger Long Live The West September 05, 2018 4:01 PM  

"Fair point.

But the jihadi head-choppers are utterly unreliable allies. They're inherently treacherous paranoiacs. Arming them is not merely stupid but a gross dereliction of duty. Treason, imho."

Is it treason for a spy to report on the enemy? No.

Same rules apply here.

Blogger drew September 05, 2018 4:02 PM  

Arming them is stupid? Israel created these rebel groups. They are an extension of their military that they can use to destabilize the region. Israel founded, trained and supplies them. The one time that ISIS did attack the IDF, by mistake, they immediately apologized.

Blogger darkdoc September 05, 2018 4:14 PM  

Now that St. John is dead (or not) and buried in Annapolis, maybe some things change...

Blogger FUBARwest September 05, 2018 4:20 PM  

As someone mentioned a couple days ago, the whole world turning to attack Isreal seems more and more likely as more news like this comes out.

"Hey big bro, go fight this guy I'm providing ammo to."

That's not going to go over well with the USA if this spreads. Probably won't, but here's hoping.

Blogger electricsheeple September 05, 2018 4:39 PM  

What's everyone's thoughts on Microchip outing himself as Q?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSDqBVVFfsM

Blogger Snidely Whiplash September 05, 2018 4:53 PM  

electricsheeple wrote:What's everyone's thoughts on Microchip outing himself as Q?


Gay attention whoring, what else?

Blogger Robert Browning September 05, 2018 4:59 PM  

If Israel were to be destroyed or overrun, where would the Jews go? Shanghai?

Blogger tublecane September 05, 2018 5:05 PM  

@7- I don't know if it makes sense, but it's standard operating procedure for us, too. Which is why we do often find ourselves fighting people we subsidized half a second before (e.g. the mujahideen in Afghanistan), arming people we were fighting a minute ago (e.g. Al Qaeda in Syria), and fighting on both sides of a war (e.g. Yemen).

Israel wants Assad gone, because he's on the other team. They'll use anyone to accomplish that task. It's like mobsters in the Dark Knight using the Joker to kill Batman. They knew he was crazy, but little did they know everything burns.

Blogger tublecane September 05, 2018 5:06 PM  

I wouldn't be surprised to learn one day ISIS was invented by John McCain.

Blogger Gen. Kong September 05, 2018 5:16 PM  

tublecane wrote:

I wouldn't be surprised to learn one day ISIS was invented by John McCain.

Thought it was unfortunate that McStain wasn't given a proper Islamic burial at sea, given his daddy's history in covering up the U.S.S. Liberty.

Blogger Lovekraft September 05, 2018 5:20 PM  

o/t but found on Rantingly. Article by Jack Posobiec exposing Q as a fraud made up by couple dudes named Microchip and Dreamcatcher.

http://www.oann.com/exposed-creator-of-qanon-speaks-for-the-first-time/

Then again, maybe this exposure is all part of the plan.

Blogger Forge the Sky September 05, 2018 5:34 PM  

Should’ve just given them New Zealand or something. Shipped over a chunk of Temple Mount for a symbolic center. Would have been easier.

This isn’t going to end until one or both sides are dead.

Blogger michimartini September 05, 2018 5:40 PM  

I understand this move as Israel using ISIS to keep Assad from reclaiming the Golan Heights that are Syrian land, so Israel can get the Golan oil.

Blogger Theproductofafineeduction September 05, 2018 5:42 PM  

OT: Any happenings going on today? Just opened up my web browser and saw that NYT is publishing an anonymous op-ed of a "Trump staffer" who is in the resistance

Blogger Doktor Jeep September 05, 2018 5:50 PM  

What is it with jews and their hatred of free speech when they are not the ones using it to undermine a host nation?
That is a loaded question BTW.

Blogger Matrick September 05, 2018 6:09 PM  

Regarding Q: it occurred to me that the recent media interest could have been triggered by knowledge that it was soon to be exposed as a fraud, with the hope of causing embarrassment to Trump supporters. It's something I thought might happen, but whether it just has or not remains to be seen.
What could happen is that the media will now bring Q back to the headlines, gloating, only for it to explode in their faces. It certainly would have been in Trump's interest to avoid seeing a large part of his support left red-faced and he could avoid that by publicly distancing himself from Q.

Blogger Dirk Manly September 05, 2018 6:11 PM  

@19

"What's everyone's thoughts on Microchip outing himself as Q? "

Until he puts something out under his own name, with the same wording before Q does, he's LARPing.

Blogger Dirk Manly September 05, 2018 6:17 PM  

Posobiec.... I've always got a vibe from him of "not reliable"

Blogger Phillip George September 05, 2018 6:28 PM  

some of the weapons had Hebrew inscriptions. So it was really just a literacy program gone wrong.

Jihadis will learn hebrew, gain a greater awareness of Hebrew scriptures and beat their light weapons into agricultural implements. With the ensuing agricultural boom millions of Syrian refugees will return to Syria to make it great again.

It was a cunning strategy.

Q's been exposed and the Clinton Foundation can return to helping poor Haitians. I could be a NYT editor.

Blogger Ingot9455 September 05, 2018 6:32 PM  

As for Israel; you would think they would learn with what happened to Hamas: originally Hamas was a little counter-group struggling for power against Yasser Arafat's PLO. Israel did the same; gave it a little funding and light weapons and what have you so as to keep it fighting against the PLO. And guess what? They won! And were much more hard-line and competent than the PLO by that point.

Maybe someday people will learn to starve the beast.

Blogger SPQRCincinnatus September 05, 2018 6:40 PM  

Anyone have a link to the cached story? I'll try to find it and post if no one else does.

Blogger SPQRCincinnatus September 05, 2018 6:44 PM  

Here is the cached link: https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:5JDOiVV-EgUJ:https://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/IDF-confirms-Israel-provided-light-weapons-to-Syrian-rebels-566479+&cd=3&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

Blogger Brian Dean September 05, 2018 6:45 PM  

"The USA really needs to stay out of the Middle East and let them all kill each other..."

Either that, or the US can secretly arm both, or all sides of the conflict so that the wars there can be endless. That way, the Muslims will be too busy with their own problems to bother the west.

Blogger Dirk Manly September 05, 2018 6:45 PM  

@34

"As for Israel; you would think they would learn"

Forcibly being kicked out of countries over 500 times disproves that hypothesis.

Blogger Phillip George September 05, 2018 6:55 PM  


At least they didn't have four jets hijacked by student pilots with box cutters. Damascus could have been in ruins. And Zina Bash wasn't making a White Supremacy sign after taking a text message. She's half mexican half Jewish so can't possibly be a white supremacist. It was all just random stuff a pretty girl does when camera's are on her and she's taking text messages from special friends

Blogger Cloudbuster September 05, 2018 7:05 PM  

The US has also armed Syrian rebels. The difference between Israel and us is that they actually have crucial interests there.

Blogger Bobiojimbo September 05, 2018 7:07 PM  

Bring them home, and have them build the wall.

Blogger Phillip George September 05, 2018 7:34 PM  

Does anyone know why David Hogg couldn't make it to the completely spontaneous protests at the Kavanaugh hearing? Has CNN no duty of care?

Blogger Geir Balderson September 05, 2018 7:35 PM  

"The USA really needs to stay out of the Middle East and let them all kill each other if they are so inclined. Americans have no national interests there. Even the oil is now unnecessary."

Yep, do not stir the pot and then bring the poor muslim refugees here to escape their own poop palaces. We have enough trouble with the Aztecs.

Blogger DJT September 05, 2018 7:55 PM  

Israel is the greatest sponsor of terror on earth.

Blogger Robert What? September 05, 2018 9:24 PM  

No question that Israel calls the shots on American foreign policy.

Blogger Lazarus September 05, 2018 9:51 PM  

End Dual Citizenship.

Blogger cecilhenry September 05, 2018 10:11 PM  

Israel and Jews have never been friends of anyone but Israel.

That's it. America like anyone else is just to be used:


http://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/israels-fifth-column-2/


Israel's Fifth Column
Exercising control from inside the government


"If the American people understood what a grip these people have got on our government, they would rise up in arms. Our citizens certainly don’t have any idea what goes on.”

Blogger Nikephoros II Phokas September 05, 2018 10:20 PM  

@31:

Microchip said afterwards that he was just trolling Posobiec. He's a Q supporter apparently.

Q then posted a teary-eyed pic of Jack and said Alex Jones is backed by Mossad.

I've got some popcorn in the microwave as we speak.

Blogger Phillip George September 05, 2018 11:05 PM  

Alex may have defected. He could be an American now.

Blogger GammaCatch September 05, 2018 11:43 PM  

Israel went Left in the 60's and half the country has been bending over for Muslims ever since. Took GWB 8 years to double the mosques.

Blogger DonReynolds September 05, 2018 11:53 PM  

Any rational person would completely agree with Vox.
Syria has not attacked the USA and Congress has not declared war. We need to exit the country, where we were never invited by the legitimate government.

If we win we get nothing in Syria and odds are more likely that we will lose whatever we commit. A sucker bet at best. Pointless.

Blogger Tars Tarkas September 06, 2018 12:44 AM  

What are the odds this shows up in the American media? If it blows up on Twitter or something, perhaps the NYT can do a story on the JP was hacked or something?

The Jewish media is never going to allow the US public to know that Israel funded ISIS.

Blogger Haxo Angmark September 06, 2018 2:22 AM  

VD: "even the oil is now unnecessary"

it was never about oil per se. It is about

1. keeping Israhell on the map.
2. keep oil producers on the dollar. That's why Iraq and Libya got the hammer: both Sadaam H. and Col. K. tried to sell oil for something other than the dollar. Thus enforcing the petrodollar forces non-oil producing countries to buy dollars before they can buy oil; that in turn prevents 'Murka's debt-monetized, dollar-drowned domestic dollar/Ponziconomy from going to hyperinflation and collapse.

since Iran has dropped the dollar AND forms the anchor of the Shi'a Crescent that opposes Israhell, Iran will get the hammer as well. The only questions are when and how bloody the war-justifying false flag will be.

Blogger Hammerli 280 September 06, 2018 6:11 AM  

The impact of U.S. energy independence on foreign policy will be interesting. Of course, the big headache is that Europe and the Far East still rely on Middle Eastern oil.

And it's one of those situations where it may be less trouble in the long run for us to control things than to let someone else take over.

Blogger Tars Tarkas September 06, 2018 10:35 AM  

The US is still a substantial net-importer of oil and the high oil production is unlikely to last very long. We are now producing about the same amount of oil we were producing in 1970, only a much higher percentage of it is from unconventional sources which have lower EROI and higher costs.

Blogger DonReynolds September 06, 2018 1:25 PM  

On the subject of oil in the Middle East, it should be pointed out that that it is not the only oil produced in the world and every drop of oil is sold on the world market. Countries with no domestic oil resources of their own....such as China, and Japan, have no difficulty buying whatever they need on the world market WITHOUT having troops on the ground, or armored columns, or aircraft carrier task groups in the waters around oil producing countries in the Middle East.

In order to get the cooperation of Europeans with US initiatives in the Middle East, President Carter signed the International Energy Agreement. (Yes, a long time ago.) This agreement guarantees European oil supplies with US oil. In the event of a disruption, US shipments at sea will be diverted to European ports and ships already in US ports will set sail for Europe. The International Energy Agreement effectively gave up the 6-8 week pipeline of oil to the US. Any disruption to the flow of oil impacts the USA immediately.

Remember too, that the Middle East was divided between France in the east and the UK in the west before any oil was discovered in the Middle East. Syria was part of the French occupation and continued during WWII under the Vichy government. The dismemberment of the old Ottoman Empire was a bonanza for the Anglo-French alliance. The Italians had to be satisfied in colonies in Afrika. Yes, oil was discovered in Libya too.

Blogger Tars Tarkas September 06, 2018 4:20 PM  

@56 How much of this oil can they use if it's unrefined? A lot of the oil the US is producing is extremely light. This is one of the reasons we are exporting finished motor gasoline, yet are a large net importer of oil.

Blogger Dirk Manly September 06, 2018 4:26 PM  

@56

"On the subject of oil in the Middle East, it should be pointed out that that it is not the only oil produced in the world and every drop of oil is sold on the world market. Countries with no domestic oil resources of their own....such as China, and Japan, have no difficulty buying whatever they need on the world market WITHOUT having troops on the ground, or armored columns, or aircraft carrier task groups in the waters around oil producing countries in the Middle East."

But how much of that is due to the fact that the U.S. Navy keeps the shipping lanes open TO ALL SHIPS, not just U.S. flagged ships.

Blogger DonReynolds September 06, 2018 6:03 PM  

Tars Tarkusz wrote:@56 How much of this oil can they use if it's unrefined? A lot of the oil the US is producing is extremely light. This is one of the reasons we are exporting finished motor gasoline, yet are a large net importer of oil.

Everybody has refineries. Big Oil has been building them in foreign countries for decades. The hazard of refineries is the fact that they either run full-on or not at all. Keeping refineries supplied with oil is a major challenge.

The light, sweet crude is used to make gasoline and the US is the biggest consumer of motor fuel. The Libyan oil is a heavy oil, called bunker fuel or boiler fuel. Tar sands you can probably figure out.

As for the shipping of refined product, the US merchant fleet has always been inadequate in this regard. During the First Gulf War, there were only two US ships that could carry refined product, so gasoline and diesel fuels for the war effort had to be carried in foreign hulls. This was recognized as a serious weakness at the time and I have no idea what has been done about it in the meantime.

Blogger DonReynolds September 06, 2018 6:08 PM  

Dirk Manly wrote:@56

"On the subject of oil in the Middle East, it should be pointed out that that it is not the only oil produced in the world and every drop of oil is sold on the world market. Countries with no domestic oil resources of their own....such as China, and Japan, have no difficulty buying whatever they need on the world market WITHOUT having troops on the ground, or armored columns, or aircraft carrier task groups in the waters around oil producing countries in the Middle East."

But how much of that is due to the fact that the U.S. Navy keeps the shipping lanes open TO ALL SHIPS, not just U.S. flagged ships.


Freedom of the seas has been the policy of the US Navy, but that does not require ground troops in any country in the Middle East. None of those countries have a serious navy to threaten trade on the high seas.

Blogger CYGNUS FACETIOUS September 06, 2018 9:40 PM  

Talpiot Program. China strips the hardware, Russian-Israelis the high tech. "I am a Bolshevik!" -- David Ben-Gurion, 1st Prime Minister of Israel, Minister of Defense at the time of JFK's assassination.

Blogger Daniel September 06, 2018 10:50 PM  

They will try Argentina. Hope we resist

Blogger Tars Tarkas September 07, 2018 3:29 PM  

@59 As I understand it, most refineries cannot just refine any old oil, but need oil in a particular range of sulfur content and specific gravity.

Anonymous Anonymous September 08, 2018 12:35 AM  

They are of their father, no doubt.

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