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Sunday, September 23, 2018

Killswitch the Linux Code of Conduct

Don't wait to be ejected from the Linux Kernel Community, contributors. Throw the killswitch, rescind your license grants NOW, and force the SJWs who are trying to converge your project to permanently withdraw the cancerous Code of Conduct.
Date Thu, 20 Sep 2018 09:28:14 +0000
From unconditionedwitness@redchan ...
Subject Re: A Plea to Unfuck our Codes of Conduct

Regarding those who are ejected from the Linux Kernel Community after this CoC:

Contributors can, at any time, rescind the license grant regarding their property via written notice to those whom they are rescinding the grant from (regarding their property (code)) .

The GPL version 2 lacks a no-rescission clause (the GPL version 3 has such a clause: to attempt furnish defendants with an estoppel defense, the Linux Kernel is licensed under version 2, however, as are the past contributions).

When the defendants ignore the rescission and continue using the plaintiff's code, the plaintiff can sue under the copyright statute.

Banned contributors _should_ do this (note: plaintiff is to register their copyright prior to filing suit, the copyright does not have to be registered at the time of the violation however)

Additionally when said banned contributors joined the Linux team, they were under the impression that it was a meritocracy: in-fact this belief was stated or ratified by those within the governing body regarding Linux when the contributors began their work (whatever that body was at that time, it could have been simply Linus, or Linus and a few associates).

The remuneration for the work was implied to be, or perhaps stated, to be fame as-well as a potential increase in the contributors stature, in addition to membership in the Linux Kernel club or association, or whatever it is that the Linux Kernel Community actually is (which a court may determine... it is something, suffice to say).

Thusly for work, consideration was promised by (Linus? Others? There are years of mailing list archives with which to determine).

And now that consideration has been clawed-back and the contributors image has been tarnished.

Thus the worker did work, however the other side of the implied, or perhaps written (email memorandums), understanding has been violated (once the contributor has been banned under the new non-meritocratic "CoC").

Damages could be recovered under: breach of contract, quazi-contract, libel, false-light. (services rendered for the contractual claims, future lost income for the libel claims). In addition to copyright claims. (statutory damages, profits)

For greatest effect, all rescission should be done at once in a bloc. (With other banned contributors).

Contributors: You were promised something, you laboured for that promise, and now the promise has become a lie. You have remedies available to you now, as-well as in the close future .

Additionally, regarding those who promoted the Code of Conduct to be used against the linux kernel contributors, knowing full well the effect it would have and desiring those effects; recovery for the ejected contributors via a tortious interference claim may be possible.
Most of the legal babble is the usual ignorant nonsense, but the license rescinding threat is both real and significant. And in this case, because the Code of Conduct has already been imposed, all the non-SJW contributors would be advised to act now and force a complete retreat by those who are successfully attempting to converge the project. We know how this always turns out.

These losers did the same in the comic industry and the gaming industry and now they are trying it in the open source community.

Fortunately, some contributors are seriously considering withdrawing their code, although they need to simply go ahead and do it now. Dire threats and warnings never, ever work with these lunatics. They always - and usually correctly - assume that you're going to back down.

My company is already considering the full withdrawal of all contributed code to the kernel project and related embedded kernel projects. You literally can’t run embedded Linux on industrial controls or handheld scanners without this code.

Assuming the Code of Conduct can be removed, an anti-SJW inquisition would be the correct next step, followed by permanent exclusion and ideological policing. Because, as you have been openly warned, the Code of Conduct is an SJW weapon and it is only a prelude of ruthless enforcement and even worse things to come.
Coraline Ada Ehmke @CoralineAda
Sep 20
Adopting a code of conduct is STEP ONE and does nothing to address systemic issues. The hard work is in designing an enforcement process, answering some hard questions about accountability and safety, and following through.

Coraline Ada Ehmke@CoralineAda
Sep 20
Looking for community financial support. Having a CoC is a first step, but fair enforcement is what makes all the difference. I’m working on an open source SaaS app to make this easier.
Fortunately, some in the Linux community are clearly aware of the SJW threat to their open source projects, their technology, and their careers.
With the recent Social Justice capture of the Linux kernel, many in the open source world may find this guide from Vox Day to be useful. I present it here as a public service; you can find the original PDF here. If you are interested in how to resist the introduction of the Contributor Convenant and other Social Justice derived Codes of Conduct, you may wish to watch this presentation or see the slides for it.
Some readers will recall that I specifically warned about Cancer Coraline and xir Codes of Conduct in SJWs Always Double Down.

The two primary weapons utilized by corporate SJWs to marginalize opponents of convergence are the now-ubiquitous Code of Conduct and the Community Committee. While codes of conduct sound sensible enough in theory, in practice they are very vaguely worded documents that serve much the same purpose for the Community Committees responsible for enforcing them that petty traffic laws do for the police. Namely, they permit the Community Committee, which may be named the Steering Committee or even the Code of Conduct Committee, to charge anyone who is insufficiently enthusiastic about the organization’s new social justice priorities with Code of Conduct violations. Since both looking at another individual and not looking at another individual can be deemed violations of the vast majority of these codes of conduct, you can probably see how they can be weaponized in order to freeze, isolate, and eliminate opponents.

In practice, codes of conduct are also used to smoke out and identify opposition to the SJWs, as the initial skeptics who are the most able to understand the danger posed by a proposed code of conduct will usually tend to serve as the nexus of the resistance against it.

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115 Comments:

Blogger Pierre September 23, 2018 8:49 AM  

Cancer Coraline is a satanist???

Blogger Damelon Brinn September 23, 2018 8:58 AM  

It's hard to get through to techies on this because they just want to be left alone and don't like to take sides. But this is doing it. It's waking them up fast to the fact that SJW's only want inclusivity until they're in charge, and then it's time to exclude. And they have a list ready.

I don't know whether GPL2'd code can be withdrawn. No one really does, and the GPL is pretty untested legally anyway, so demanding it be withdrawn will be effective. Open source works because coders are generally like-minded about the purpose of code and altruistic about their contributions. The GPL was designed to keep the process open, not to let someone close it off, so they won't react well when they realize what's being done here.

Blogger Shimshon September 23, 2018 8:59 AM  

...GPL is pretty untested legally anyway...

I don't think this is actually the case.

Blogger ThatWouldBeTelling September 23, 2018 9:17 AM  

@3. Shimshon September 23, 2018 8:59 AM

...GPL is pretty untested legally anyway...

I don't think this is actually the case.


Depends on the jurisdiction. In the US, the concept of such licenses was well established by a crazy case about model railroad software, involving the much more loosely worded Perl Artistic License. The GPL been used in Germany in a lot of cases suing people selling hardware with BusyBox but refusing to supply the code.

Which brings up another point, this can be tried in many legal jurisdictions. Converged Linux won't thrive in a geographic minefield.

Blogger wreckage September 23, 2018 9:18 AM  

Why wouldn't you withdraw your copyrighted code? Act now or these people will own it. The CoC isn't just ideological; they are taking commercial possession of the project with the CoC as a tool.

Once everyone else is excluded, they'll "reform" the copyright and licensing, giving the remaining coders (them) ownership. Then they'll try to monetize.

Absolutely 100% guarantee the project will NOT be open-source anymore once they're done.

Blogger ThatWouldBeTelling September 23, 2018 9:24 AM  

@5 wreckage:

Once everyone else is excluded, they'll "reform" the copyright and licensing, giving the remaining coders (them) ownership.

They'll need to corrupt copyright law first, as it stands now, no one can do this because, unlike for example Free Software Foundation projects, Linux never had a contributor agreement you first had to execute that assigned ownership of the copyright to the FSF.

Blogger wreckage September 23, 2018 9:26 AM  

*shrug*
They'll still try.
And in the absence of resistance, the line between legal and illegal is audacity.

Blogger VD September 23, 2018 9:30 AM  

They'll need to corrupt copyright law first, as it stands now, no one can do this

Irrelevant. If people can't even bother to withdraw their own code, no one is going to go to the effort and expense of a copyright lawsuit.

Blogger ThatWouldBeTelling September 23, 2018 9:40 AM  

@8 VD: Not irrelevant given how many ornery men are part of FOSS. All we need is one contributor who's been purged and has enough FU money to go the lawsuit route.

Blogger Damelon Brinn September 23, 2018 9:42 AM  

The legal cases involving the GPL that I've noticed were about the creators of code objecting to others using it without including the source and license. That's what it was intended for. This is a different thing, so if rescission has been legally tested, especially in all the jurisdictions involved, I'd be surprised.

That's okay, though. The threat of court cases can be as effective as court decisions. Demanding the code be withdrawn will work because many contributors really believe in open source, and kicking people out of a project while keeping their code against their wishes clearly violates the spirit of it. It's also extremely embarassing, and tech types hate public embarassment. In a small case like the Lerna one Vox wrote about a few weeks ago, it took less than 24 hours for the head maintainer to boot the SJW once public attention was on them. Linux is bigger, so it'll take longer. I think they'll get it right, and it won't take as long as a court case.

How long did it take gamers to figure it out after Zoe Quinn was exposed?

Blogger James Dixon September 23, 2018 9:48 AM  

> It's also extremely embarassing, and tech types hate public embarassment.

Tech types obviously aren't the ones pushing this. The corporate members of the Linux Foundation are.

Blogger Damelon Brinn September 23, 2018 9:59 AM  

@11, Right. It's going to be a power struggle between the actual contributors and the corporate sponsors. The coders can fork it and leave the Foundation behind at any time. That's harder than it would have been a decade ago, though, because many of them get paid to work on Linux, being allowed to do it on company time. Since so many tech companies are converged, they may not be allowed to shift to an alt-Linux fork and keep getting paid for it.

Blogger VD September 23, 2018 10:04 AM  

VD: Not irrelevant given how many ornery men are part of FOSS. All we need is one contributor who's been purged and has enough FU money to go the lawsuit route.

It is totally irrelevant. I repeat: if you can't bother to withdraw your code, you're not going to sue anyone. I very much doubt you've ever been involved in a lawsuit. It is very expensive, very time-consuming, and very emotionally-draining, even if you win a six-digit figure without having to go to court.

It's always easy to tell when people have absolutely no knowledge of the legal process, because they so blithely appeal to someone else using it. So, it is not a credible threat and the SJWs know it.

Blogger James Dixon September 23, 2018 10:07 AM  

> The coders can fork it and leave the Foundation behind at any time.

A hobbyist/corporate fork of Linux has been overdue for a long time. The two groups don't want the same things from their OS. Systemd is one of the examples of this. It's been driven by corporate demand.

Blogger Johnny September 23, 2018 10:09 AM  

I don't know what the previous CoC was, so I am winging it here to some extent.

It is always hard to fight something with nothing. Perhaps the best method would be to come up with another CoC, and stress putting that one in place. It should begin with a boiler plate statement of things nobody can disagree with. You know, we are for everything good and nice. After the assertion of utopic goals, the details. They should stress things that are needed for group cohesion and actually getting something done. People would need to contribute in a positive way to their projects (actually do work), demonstrate the level of ability need for their position (qualified to do the work), behave in a way that is not disruptive to the group (get along with others), and so on. The whole point would be to stress stuff that would be stressed anyway.

Finally, if deemed necessary, let the enforcement process be stated, but not by a Community Committee, rather by those who are in charge anyway, or under their direct control

Blogger VD September 23, 2018 10:09 AM  

Demanding the code be withdrawn will work because many contributors really believe in open source, and kicking people out of a project while keeping their code against their wishes clearly violates the spirit of it.

Public posturing will probably not be enough. The chances of success will be much higher if two or more contributors actually rescind permission to use their code and withdraw it from the kernel project.

The Code of Conduct must be eliminated, all future attempts to modify it banned, and those responsible for it must be removed from the project. Those should be absolute red-line requirements. Anything less and you'll be right back in the same place before long.

And be very wary of a proposed requirement of GPLv3 for future contributions....

Blogger VD September 23, 2018 10:10 AM  

Perhaps the best method would be to come up with another CoC, and stress putting that one in place. It should begin with a boiler plate statement of things nobody can disagree with. You know, we are for everything good and nice.

No, No, NO! All you are doing there is handing the SJWs permission to take control by redefining "good" and "nice". The more nebulous the rules are, the easier it is to exploit them.

Blogger tz September 23, 2018 10:14 AM  

@15 - the CoC is a submitted patch, it can simply be reversed using the standard git tools.

Fork off Meritux, reverse the CoC patch, and continue coding.

Blogger tz September 23, 2018 10:17 AM  

I forgot - in one of the linked articles, they are apparently going after Ted Tso - one of the earliest and senior lieutenants.
They attacked him publicly for being a "rape apologist" breaking the CoC in that act, but want him ejected.

Blogger Chiva September 23, 2018 10:22 AM  

"Systemd is one of the examples of this. It's been driven by corporate demand."
True. A split is overdue. I work in the Linux kernel and the differences in requirements between corporations and normal users is substantial.

Blogger tz September 23, 2018 10:25 AM  

The quickest way would be for the senior contributors to submit patches removing their work from the kernel, basically looking up the contributor history and removing those bits of code and demand on the basis of copyright and "fairness" that they don't want to work for any project with a bunch of Guestapo looking for reasons to banish them to the Gulag.

Blogger ThatWouldBeTelling September 23, 2018 10:27 AM  

@13 VD:

It's always easy to tell when people have absolutely no knowledge of the legal process

And here I was, commenting while thinking of both your and my unpleasant experiences in the US civil legal system....

Not irrelevant given how many ornery men are part of FOSS. All we need is one contributor who's been purged and has enough FU money to go the lawsuit route.

It is totally irrelevant. I repeat: if you can't bother to withdraw your code


To repeat and rephrase: My concept presumes a wealthy enough contributor who some time in the future gets purged, and decides to use some of his FU money to get revenge. You understand every item of this concept based on what you've told us about your lawsuit against the company that destroyed your gaming company (along with I forget which Japanese company deciding to end funding of US studios).

Blogger Aeoli September 23, 2018 10:28 AM  

Don't listen to what Torvalds is saying with his lips. He may as well be blinking D-U-R-E-S-S at us in Morse code. Think about the tech crackdowns on other platforms.

Blogger #7139 September 23, 2018 10:29 AM  

I need to ask a noob question. If two or more contributors rescind permission to use their code and withdraw it from the kernal project, as Vox suggests, does the kernal stop working?

Blogger James Dixon September 23, 2018 10:34 AM  

> It's always easy to tell when people have absolutely no knowledge of the legal process, because they so blithely appeal to someone else using it.

AFAICT, the entire key to the legal process is to have good lawyers and do what they tell you. But good lawyers aren't cheap.

Blogger VD September 23, 2018 10:37 AM  

My concept presumes a wealthy enough contributor who some time in the future gets purged, and decides to use some of his FU money to get revenge.

I understood that. And I am telling you that it is a fantasy that is not relevant to the current situation. Linus Torvalds has plenty of resources and connections, and yet he is being successfully purged.

Yes, it is theoretically possible. It's also possible that a sweet meteor of justice will land upon the heads of all the responsible SJWs when they are planning their next purge, but I would not base my strategy upon that happening either.

Blogger James Dixon September 23, 2018 10:39 AM  

> I don't know what the previous CoC was

There wasn't one.

> If two or more contributors rescind permission to use their code and withdraw it from the kernal project, as Vox suggests, does the kernal stop working?

Depends on the exact code being withdrawn, but normally, no.

Blogger Chiva September 23, 2018 10:42 AM  

@7139 Most likely the kernel would continue working. What would stop working is any apps or drivers that are dependent on the capabilities or functionality the contributor removed.

Blogger James Dixon September 23, 2018 10:46 AM  

As usual, Vox is correct about this being the best course of action. I'm pretty sure it would only take a relatively small number of people withdrawing their contributions to wreak havoc on the kernel. While the SJW's probably wouldn't withdraw completely, I think they would be soundly routed and the CoC would be history.

Unfortunately, I'm afraid a simple withdrawal of the best and brightest contributors is more likely. Which is just what the SJW's want.

Blogger FrankNorman September 23, 2018 10:50 AM  

Threatening to "killswitch" the Linux kernel as a means of making the SJW's go take a hike presupposes that killing Linux isn't exactly what the people behind this Coc stuff want.

Big Biz or Deep State wanting to take control over things.

Blogger James Dixon September 23, 2018 10:52 AM  

Not entirely unrelated, I'm afraid: https://www.nasdaq.com/article/google-ceo-warns-employees-to-stay-nonpartisan-or-face-actions-20180923-00004

How they can lie so effortlessly always amazes me, but I've seen it too much in my life not to know that's what he's doing.

Blogger James Dixon September 23, 2018 10:53 AM  

> presupposes that killing Linux isn't exactly what the people behind this Coc stuff want.

They don't want to kill it. They want to take it over and use it for their purposes, just as they've done with ESPN, the NFL, etc.

Blogger VD September 23, 2018 10:55 AM  

Threatening to "killswitch" the Linux kernel as a means of making the SJW's go take a hike presupposes that killing Linux isn't exactly what the people behind this Coc stuff want.

Again, irrelevant. This isn't about them, it's about forcing the majority of moderate contributors to choose between the SJWs and working kernel code. Allowing the SJWs to assume control is tantamount to killing Linux, only over time.

Blogger ThatWouldBeTelling September 23, 2018 10:57 AM  

@26 VD:

My concept presumes a wealthy enough contributor who some time in the future gets purged, and decides to use some of his FU money to get revenge.

I understood that. And I am telling you that it is a fantasy that is not relevant to the current situation. Linus Torvalds has plenty of resources and connections, and yet he is being successfully purged.


And the best guess that anyone's been able to come up with is that they finally got him on a sexual assault accusation, very likely from his eldest daughter, the "therapy" bit in his message is highly suggestive, something @23 Aeoli recognizes in principle. This would require the contributor to have been purged in the normal SJW ways.

Yes, it is theoretically possible. It's also possible that a sweet meteor of justice will land upon the heads of all the responsible SJWs when they are planning their next purge, but I would not base my strategy upon that happening either.

Nor am I, due to systemd I've been putting my effort into the BSDs, and it looks like I'm getting even more company. But not from the bulk of Linux kernel developers, who are employed by generally already converged organizations, like Ted Ts'o, who works for Google. For now.

But knowing these people, I can see it happen; if you did it, no reason one of these can't also do it. At the very least, knowing of this option can't hurt their morale as the convergence process steamrollers the Linux kernel.

Blogger Mark Stoval September 23, 2018 11:01 AM  

I have been surprised that the Linux project has not already been totally converged from distros to kernel. I stop all contributions a long, long time ago.

The main problem with any Code of Conduct is that much like the US Constitution the document means whatever you want it to mean. The left re-defines words to mean other than what they used to mean. They read sentences and phrases to mean the totally opposite of what the plain English says they mean.

Worse, the CoC applies in different ways to different people. Who gets the pass and who gets the hammer? You know.

The internet is so important that letting the SJWs win here is like the beginning of the end of any hope to beat them.

Blogger Dirk Manly September 23, 2018 11:02 AM  

@2

"and the GPL is pretty untested legally anyway"

Dude, it's based on copyright law. And yes, it has withstood court scrutinyl

The U.S. federal court ruled it is an enforceable contract.

In a California district court, Judge Jacqueline Scott Corley refused [PDF] to accept what has been an uncomfortable legal precedent for the past decade. She ruled that the GNU General Public License – the GNU GPL – is an enforceable legal contract even though it is not actually signed.

...

The case before Judge Corley concerns a South Korean company called Hancom that sells a suite of software programs similar to Microsoft Office. It downloaded and incorporated PDF toolkit Ghostscript into its software. Ghostscript is developed by a California-based outfit called Artifex.

Now, Ghostscript is dual licensed: you either use it for free under the GNU Affero General Public License, an approved variant of the GPL, or you pay Artifex for a commercial license. Under the commercial license, you can use the code for your own purposes, and keep all the source to yourself. Under the GNU AGPL, you have to, among other things, distribute for free any changes made to Ghostscript.

Hancom decided not pay Artifex for a commercial license. Instead, it opted for the AGPL route, but then failed to obey the license and make freely available the changes it made to Ghostscript while integrating it into its product.

Seeing as Hancom was effectively going down the closed-source commercial license lane but without paying a dime, Artifex knocked on the Koreans' door. The Ghostscript developer demanded backdated license fees on the hundreds of millions of dollars Hancom had made from the sale of its – infringing – software. Hancom refused. Artifex sued.

In its defense, Hancom claims various things, including that it is not based in the US so there cannot be an infringement in the US, but critically it makes two arguments that get to the heart of the enforceability of the GNU GPL:

That since it did not sign anything when it downloaded Artifex's software there is no contract to be enforced.
That the contract claim is preempted by federal copyright law.
That second claim may seem a little odd and that's because it is based on a notorious case – Jacobsen v Katzer – that was heard in the same legal district, the Northern District of California.

Blogger FrankNorman September 23, 2018 11:02 AM  

Oldish cartoon, but Ben Garrison gets it:
https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/047/949/707.jpg

Blogger Dirk Manly September 23, 2018 11:05 AM  

As to the claim that the GNU GPL was preempted by federal copyright law, the judge took issue with the Jacobsen case acting as a precedent and highlighted an argument that, she notes, was "apparently not made in Jacobsen."

And that argument surrounds there being an "extra element" beyond claims that also exist in copyright law. That extra element, the judge notes, is the existence of the GNU GPL itself – specifically its requirement that any derivative work from the software also be made open source.

Since there is no obligation under copyright law to make the end result open source, then the fact that the GNU GPL exists – and people agree to it when they download software – means that it is itself the "extra element" required to push the issue past a simple copyright issue and into the realm of contract law.

In that sense the GNU General Public License is self-propagating... like fractals, man.

So while the Free Software Foundation hippies may not like the idea of GNU GPL as a contract, they can't deny some satisfaction in the recursive nature of this legal argument – put forward by a federal judge, no less.

This is after all the organization that decided that GNU stood for "GNU's Not Unix." ®

Blogger FrankNorman September 23, 2018 11:09 AM  

Allowing the SJWs to assume control is tantamount to killing Linux, only over time.

Absolutely, even if they were only the "muh feelingz" idiots they pretend to be. Every single developer who was any good would get kicked out over time.

I personally don't plan on doing any more kernel upgrades on my Linux machines until this SJW stuff is driven out.

Blogger Unknown September 23, 2018 11:12 AM  

Related: Code and Witchcraft with Coraline Ada Ehmke

JESSICA: Yeah, because when we shape our experience, whether through magic or through software, through changing the physics of ‘What happens when I push this button?’ for instance, then that changes us. And then we go on to change reality further. And it affects other people.

CORALINE: Yeah. And I’ve even taken it further. We mentioned in my bio that I do AI on the side. I have some AI passion projects. The main one is called Sophia. And my goal with Sophia is to make her comprehend metaphors and also create metaphors. And my data model is based on Kabbalah.

Source:
https://archive.is/U8QR8
http://www.greaterthancode.com/2018/04/11/075-code-and-witchcraft/

Blogger Gen. Kong September 23, 2018 11:19 AM  

They'll need to corrupt copyright law first, as it stands now, no one can do this because, unlike for example Free Software Foundation projects, Linux never had a contributor agreement you first had to execute that assigned ownership of the copyright to the FSF.

Copyright law is already totally corrupt. In the Banana Empire, it's auto-written by Congress on behalf of (((Disney))), (((The Music Industry))) and other deep-state connected enterprises. Despite it being the most important election in 222 years (versus the usual "evaah"), you can count on the Washington Generals playing for the deep-state and its friends. The Senate has either passed or is about to pass another such giveaway (the "Music Modernization Act") basically extending what amounts to perpetual copyright for sound recordings - even brown wax cylinders from the late 1800s - to all states while not actually bringing them under the Federal Statute, at the same time declaring there are "performance rights" in such recordings which must be paid. The EUSSR just passed a copyright law which makes hyperlinks subject to taxation and copyright enforcement.

Blogger FrankNorman September 23, 2018 11:19 AM  

People who think software is magic should not be allowed in any serious development project.

Blogger Dirk Manly September 23, 2018 11:21 AM  

@24

"I need to ask a noob question. If two or more contributors rescind permission to use their code and withdraw it from the kernal project, as Vox suggests, does the kernal stop working?"

Well, critical functionality will be lost.

If two or more parts from your car's engine are removed, will it continue to function?

Blogger Dirk Manly September 23, 2018 11:28 AM  

@40

"And my data model is based on Kabbalah."

I.e. (((Talmudic))) Witchcraft

Every.
damned.
time.

Blogger Dirk Manly September 23, 2018 11:31 AM  

@41

" The EUSSR just passed a copyright law which makes hyperlinks subject to taxation and copyright enforcement."

And thereby fundamentally breaking the original purpose of the World Wide Web.

The entire concept, as designed by Tim Berners-Lee is based on hyperlinks, and SPECIFICALLY hyperlinks to OTHER people's work.

Blogger FrankNorman September 23, 2018 11:32 AM  

43. Dirk Manly September 23, 2018 11:21 AM

@24

"I need to ask a noob question. If two or more contributors rescind permission to use their code and withdraw it from the kernal project, as Vox suggests, does the kernal stop working?"

Well, critical functionality will be lost.

If two or more parts from your car's engine are removed, will it continue to function?


Obviously that would only be future version of the kernal. Existing copies on production servers will still be fine. As long as they don't upgrade to a newer and therefore possibly broken version.

Blogger InformationMerchant September 23, 2018 11:55 AM  

From https://twitter.com/therealEleix/status/1043161798915043330 :

"Holy shit, I can also confirm this is a very real threat. The same thing happened to Craftbukkit back in 2012 when developers recinded their code after Microsoft bought Mojang. #Linux is facing a very real and very scary existential crisis that would have ripple affects across the entire Information Technology industry. Developers please rethink the ramifications. WE ARE ABOUT TO LOSE THE LINUX KERNEL."


If you'd like to know where our furry friend stands: https://twitter.com/therealEleix/status/1042874722550247427

"So they basically blackmailed him... While I think it's a good idea for him this isn't the way I would have wanted it to happen. It's even more concerning that Torvalds of all people could be extorted like that. FOSS projects beware of wolves in sheep's clothing."

Anonymous Anonymous September 23, 2018 11:58 AM  

The thing about all this is that it's so... predictable. It's like we're back in September 2014 and not 2018.

SJWAL is a real benefit to the community by examining their playbook.

Blogger Unknown September 23, 2018 12:12 PM  

Johnny wrote:I don't know what the previous CoC was, so I am winging it here to some extent.


see prior work http://code-of-merit.org/

Blogger Lance E September 23, 2018 12:15 PM  

tz wrote:The quickest way would be for the senior contributors to submit patches removing their work from the kernel, basically looking up the contributor history and removing those bits of code and demand on the basis of copyright and "fairness" that they don't want to work for any project with a bunch of Guestapo looking for reasons to banish them to the Gulag.

No, this would be obscenely difficult for those contributors, and I'm not sure if it's even logistically possible. Code doesn't get checked in and just sit there; it's a virtual guarantee that anything a contributor has submitted at any point has been modified by dozens if not hundreds of other developers.

Copyright law is pretty clear on this; the person who is violating the copyright is responsible for resolving it, no matter how difficult it may appear to be. Look at what happened with YouTube many years ago, and what's happening even now with the EU's absurd anti-meme law. As difficult as it might be, formally rescinding a copyright grant and fighting it out in court would probably be less work than trying to revert hundreds of patches that have spread thousands of tentacles into other parts of the system.

That's precisely why this is being called a "killswitch". If they follow through with this, progress grinds to a halt. Nobody can check in new code, and the excision of rescinded code would take months, maybe years. The resulting entity probably would not function - probably would not even build.

Contributors attempting to do this themselves, or telling other contributors to do, would be a massive own-goal.

Blogger Damelon Brinn September 23, 2018 12:26 PM  

The U.S. federal court ruled it is an enforceable contract.

You obviously know a lot more about the GPL than I do, so let me know when someone successfully uses it in court against a company I've heard of, like those backing the Linux Foundation and sponsoring SJW employees as kernel devs. Contributors have to demand withdrawal of their code and get denied in the first place before there would be anything to sue over. I happen to think the Linux developer community is more likely to solve this problem itself, than that it will linger long enough to get to court and then someone beats Google/Microsoft/IBM/etc. with a version of the GPL that doesn't even clearly cover the issue.

But I'm all for people trying whatever strategy they like -- you know, like in open source.

Blogger By My Greybeard! September 23, 2018 12:28 PM  

“You know, we are for everything good and nice.”

Wow.
That reads like 'oogle's ‘don't be evil’ mission statement.

When I first saw the ‘don't be evil’ mission statement it struck me almost like a physical blow that the owners of google were semaphoring Real Intent™ to any allies who were under deep cover. I didn't need the revelations of evil deeds and intents that followed to convince me of who they were.

For most people — and I excuse not myself — it is difficult to follow the still small voice of warning as it whispers in One's ear when friends and acquaintances insist you're simply being over-cautious, or even “paranoid”.

I have become certain that that is one tool... along with One's innate desire to do good... which SJWs find exceedingly useful, if not essential, to their destructive ends.

Blogger Lovekraft September 23, 2018 12:35 PM  

This creature is:

heterophobic
masculophobic
Christophobic

probably a few more.

Bring back bullying.

Blogger Nihil Dicit September 23, 2018 1:03 PM  

"CORALINE: I think I developed it as a habit. I have severe bipolar disorder among other things. And before transition, my medication made me tend toward mania. And I think I developed some work habits while I suffered from mania. And since transition, my body chemistry changed. And now I’m more prone to depression. But I still have the work ethic."


Who else is shocked, shocked, to discover this creature is not only open about its severe mental illnesses, but actually glories in them?

And "transitioning" into something named "Coraline Ada": childlike or child molester?

Blogger FrankNorman September 23, 2018 1:46 PM  

And "transitioning" into something named "Coraline Ada": childlike or child molester?

Why do men who decide they want to be women always seem to choose such eccentric female names?

Blogger Crew September 23, 2018 1:51 PM  

And the knives are out for those they resent for their contributions and abilities:

https://twitter.com/_sagesharp_/status/1042769399596437504

Blogger FrankNorman September 23, 2018 2:02 PM  

September 23, 2018 1:51 PM

And the knives are out for those they resent for their contributions and abilities:

https://twitter.com/_sagesharp_/status/1042769399596437504



What a punchable face...

Blogger Galt-in-Da-Box September 23, 2018 2:10 PM  

"Shut eet DOWN!!!", Goyim!

Blogger camcleat September 23, 2018 2:13 PM  

"What a punchable face..."

Far too many don't even ask why people like this are even involved in the discussion. It has publicly listed ZERO tech skills, programming ability or interest and for that matter, nothing that suggests it even knows what an OS kernel even is.

On Twitter, advertises itself as "Diversity & inclusion consultant." Not programmer; no actual skills mentioned at all. Just "Diversity and inclusion consultant."

Web page is all about "inclusivity" and not a single word about "Yeah, and I write code, too."

Oh wait. I stand corrected. Buried down after pages of complete and utter irrelevant nonsense is a link to its latest "FOSS Project"

https://github.com/sagesharp/foss-heartbeat

Ugh. At least it's listed as Status "Unmaintained."

Blogger camcleat September 23, 2018 2:19 PM  

Ah, I stand further corrected.

" I was a Linux kernel developer from 2006 to 2013. I’m the reason Linux had USB 3.0 support before any other operating system, including Windows. I no longer work on the Linux kernel. I’m the founder of Otter Tech LLC, a diversity and open source consulting firm."

I wonder if the claimed statement is true or if that's some stolen valor.

Blogger James Dixon September 23, 2018 2:19 PM  

> ...so let me know when someone successfully uses it in court against a company I've heard of,

Most cases never make it to court, as the company settles, as Cisco did: https://infogalactic.com/info/Free_Software_Foundation,_Inc._v._Cisco_Systems,_Inc.

The demands of the GPL aren't particularly onerous, so that's what normally happens.

However, since you insist, is D-Link good enough? https://infogalactic.com/info/Gpl-violations.org#Notable_victories

Blogger camcleat September 23, 2018 2:27 PM  

So, it's true, not stolen valor. Okay. Sarah/Sage Sharp was a kernel dev and was maintainer of USB 3.0 code for a time.

Further reading reveals Sarah, aka Sage, Sharp was "run out" of the kernel dev community.

https://www.linux.com/news/sarah-sharp-quits-linux-kernel-developer-blames-toxic-behavior-community

That incident from 2015 is mentioned as an example of why Linus' recent vomit and the changes in the kernel dev community were needed.

Wonder Sarah/Sage is now going to drop the "Diversity and inclusion consulting" business and go back to the kernel development.

Blogger camcleat September 23, 2018 2:33 PM  

From LinuxWorld.com 9/21/2018,

Regarding her leaving the dev team in 2015, "Sharp has publicly locked horns with senior Linux kernel developers, including Torvalds in the past over issues of civility and professionalism, and has, arguably, been more responsible than anyone else for pressing the community to consider those issues more critically in recent years.

But even relatively minor moves to curb bad behavior have met with angry resistance from some kernel devs – a meekly worded “please be respectful” policy adopted as a kernel patch earlier this year provoked furious commentary on mailing lists and Reddit discussions, even if Torvalds himself lent the policy some cursory support. (Torvalds could not be reached for comment at the time this article was published.)

Sharp said that she’s tired of trying to push this particular rock uphill."

She was not tired of pushing that rock uphill. She just bid her time and waited for the kernel dev team to be infiltrated in another way (the CoC). She did not move on or she would not be gloating on Twitter about this stuff this week.

Lesson: SJW's can be patient and build support before striking when they want.

Blogger ThatWouldBeTelling September 23, 2018 3:19 PM  

@61 James Dixon:

> ...so let me know when someone successfully uses it in court against a company I've heard of,

Most cases never make it to court, as the company settles


Which is why I focus on the prospect of a purged, unemployable in anything like his old career, Linux kernel dev with enough FU money that he doesn't have to settle, it takes two to agree to.

Blogger Dirk Manly September 23, 2018 3:22 PM  

@59 / @ 60

> Oh wait. I stand corrected. Buried down after pages of complete and utter irrelevant nonsense is a link to its latest "FOSS Project"

> https://github.com/sagesharp/foss-heartbeat

> Ugh. At least it's listed as Status "Unmaintained."

"heartbeat" is a component of clustering software (multiple hosts working together as a team) -- it basically just uses ping (or a similar mechanism) to keep track of which other hosts are up and running. Hence the name "heartbeat."

It is EXTREMELY simple software. Almost, but not quite as simple simple as a proper /bin/init.


---
> Ah, I stand further corrected.

> " I was a Linux kernel developer from 2006 to 2013. I’m the reason Linux had USB 3.0 support before any other operating system, including Windows. I no longer work on the Linux kernel. I’m the founder of Otter Tech LLC, a diversity and open source consulting firm."

> I wonder if the claimed statement is true or if that's some stolen valor."

7 years, and the only thing accomplished was "heartbeat"? That's like claiming you were in the army during 7 years of the 2000's, and the ONLY decoration you got during the entire time was the Army Service Ribbon (the "rainbow ribbon" which is awarded upon the completion of Basic Training). Somehow, having ONLY ONE is just as damning as too many.

Blogger camcleat September 23, 2018 3:51 PM  

""heartbeat" is a component of clustering software (multiple hosts working together as a team) -- it basically just uses ping (or a similar mechanism) to keep track of which other hosts are up and running. Hence the name "heartbeat."

It is EXTREMELY simple software. Almost, but not quite as simple simple as a proper /bin/init."

I think this must be a different heartbeat.

"FOSS Heartbeat analyses the health of a community of contributors."

It scrapes github repositories and uses some pattern matching to classify the community of contributors to that project as "welcoming" or "not welcoming."

It's an SJW bot for grading software development groups.

It uses a model that categorizes statements as

Very positive: Thank yous with emphasis (great or great!), or specific praise

Positive: Thanks, praise, encouragement, empathy, helping others, and apologies

Neutral: Any talk about code that includes opinions without expressing gratitude, empathy, cursing, or discriminatory language

Negative: Comments about code or people with mild cursing or abelist language

Very Negative: Comments with strong cursing, sexist, racist, homophobic, transphobic, etc. language

The stated goal of the project was ostensibly to determine what kinds of things keep a contributor working on a project. Note this was implemented against an SJW criteria set.

There's nothing in the metrics about what drives people away from a project being "incomprehensible code" or "too many bugs" or "incompetent leadership."

No; the Negative and Very Negative statements, assumed to be what drove people from working on an OSS project, were violations on the SJW stack: "abelist language" or "cursing," etc.

The point looks to be to grade projects not on usefulness, merit or code quality, but on teh feelz.

Blogger VD September 23, 2018 3:57 PM  

Which is why I focus on the prospect of a purged, unemployable in anything like his old career, Linux kernel dev with enough FU money that he doesn't have to settle, it takes two to agree to.

You are focusing on something that is almost certainly never going to happen. Precisely how many Linux kernel devs meet that description? Three? Six? Five hundred sixty four? Are you actually talking to any of them about this or are you just playing armchair strategist in ignorance?

Seriously, why are you clinging to this ridiculous notion? It would be as profitable to focus on the sweet SJW-hating meteor of death.

Blogger RoRo71 September 23, 2018 4:02 PM  

Good link. Finding myself deep down a rabbit hole of madness, adding more links to my reading list, and this is all just depressing. Thanks nonetheless!

Blogger Lance E September 23, 2018 4:05 PM  

camcleat wrote:So, it's true, not stolen valor. Okay. Sarah/Sage Sharp was a kernel dev and was maintainer of USB 3.0 code for a time.

As tempting as it is to believe that 100% of SJWs are functionally illiterate, it shouldn't be terribly surprising that some of them are competent. The gamma strain does correlate with higher IQ, and SJWs wouldn't be able to converge institutions so quickly without at least some leverage.

That's one reason why deconvergence is so tough and in reality never seems to happen. Purging the SJWs means getting rid of a ton of dead weight, but also a small number of high performers. As I believe that Vox has noted several times in the past, however, the problem with SJWs (and gammas in general) is that the costs they impose far outweigh anything they're able to produce.

2VS is a competent artist. Yet, we've now all seen how insane it would be to work with him. With many SJWs, especially the tranny variety for some strange reason, it's the same story: the skills are there, but they're incapable of being managed or cooperating with others (except as part of a hate mob).

What does amaze me is how Corey's CoC was able to gain so much traction, considering that GitHub itself fired the bastard for what basically amounted to corporate sabotage. I guess most devs still don't pay much attention to these happenings and didn't really know who he was or understand what was going on - but on the positive side, some of the newer responses suggest that awareness is spreading.

Blogger Lance E September 23, 2018 4:13 PM  

camcleat wrote:It scrapes github repositories and uses some pattern matching to classify the community of contributors to that project as "welcoming" or "not welcoming."

It's an SJW bot for grading software development groups.


Did you notice the explicit inclusion of "systemd" in the training data?

Even for people who aren't programmers, that file is very interesting. It's a window into the SJW's tiny black soul, or at least their mental model of how conversation is supposed to work.

Blogger RoRo71 September 23, 2018 4:29 PM  

Why is it always men pretending to be women who tend to be the most toxic “feminist” fruitcakes? Is it a “no zeal like the newly converted” type of thing? Brianna Wu, for one, was among the most toxic people to emerge from GamerGate.

Blogger Nihil Dicit September 23, 2018 4:42 PM  

@71 - Mostly it's because, as mentioned in my comment above, they're severely mentally ill and are convinced that this is a good thing.

Blogger camcleat September 23, 2018 4:42 PM  

@69 "As tempting as it is to believe that 100% of SJWs are functionally illiterate, it shouldn't be terribly surprising that some of them are competent. "

An excellent point.

I'm as guilty as anyone in assuming that because their ideology is stupid that all of the individuals are as well.

Sarah/Sage is that much more dangerous for it than, say Anita S., because it has that past credential to hide behind.

Blogger Were-Puppy September 23, 2018 4:45 PM  

@53 Lovekraft
Bring back bullying.
---

This. If fatty had his ass kicked more often, rolled down a few hills and chastised over his stupidity, then none of this would be happening now.

Blogger Jack Amok September 23, 2018 4:48 PM  

Why is it always men pretending to be women who tend to be the most toxic “feminist” fruitcakes?

Because they are psychos with a literally insane need for attention, so they do increasingly crazy things to get it.

A tranny's real fetish is exhibitionism.

Blogger Dirk Manly September 23, 2018 4:55 PM  

Transsexualism is ALWAYS ... ALWAYS ... WITHOUT EXCEPTION ... a result of borderline personality disorder.

BPD people are part and parcel disruptive attention whores. And "toxic" is a mild word to describe BPDs.

:Sarah/Sage is that much more dangerous for it than, say Anita S., because it has that past credential to hide behind.

"I wrote the USB 3.0 code" isn't much of a credential.. it's not much different than USB 2.x and USB 1.x, and much, MUCH simpler than pre-USB serial interfaces. (That's one of the appeals of USB -- it's MUCH SIMPLER than other serial protocols).

Blogger camcleat September 23, 2018 5:04 PM  

@76: ""I wrote the USB 3.0 code" isn't much of a credential.. it's not much different than USB 2.x and USB 1.x, and much, MUCH simpler than pre-USB serial interfaces. (That's one of the appeals of USB -- it's MUCH SIMPLER than other serial protocols)."

Fair enough. But, at least it can say it worked on the kernel project in some fashion vice Anita that openly admitted she knew nothing about games and had no real interest in them.

Comparatively, Anita was easier to discredit.

To convince a newbie to SJW/Convergence awareness, it's a harder sell that Sarah's "pro-inclusivity" crap is more about disruption and burning down the project than making kernel dev better.

Blogger ThatWouldBeTelling September 23, 2018 5:11 PM  

@67 VD:

Which is why I focus on the prospect of a purged, unemployable in anything like his old career, Linux kernel dev with enough FU money that he doesn't have to settle, it takes two to agree to.

[...] Are you actually talking to any of them about this or are you just playing armchair strategist in ignorance?


Are you really, truly, seriously asking me this question on a Google platform???

No, at this point it's limited to class reunions, road trips that cross where one lives, and the like. But that doesn't mean I don't know their character and circumstances, and can make some educated guesses about what some of them might do if pushed in a corner.

Seriously, why are you clinging to this ridiculous notion?

How are these "contributors [who] are seriously considering withdrawing their code" going to make this stick without a lawsuit? Why post this gambit if in practice it actually isn't practical?

Blogger Damelon Brinn September 23, 2018 5:15 PM  

I guess most devs still don't pay much attention to these happenings

They really don't. They just want to be left alone to work on their stuff, and that drives a strong strain of "if I don't look under the bed, the monster can't get me" thinking. But as you say, they're learning fast. In GamerGate, I remember nerds being fairly divided for a while. In this case, I don't see nearly as many people trying to play the moderate "both sides suck" game.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash September 23, 2018 5:16 PM  

Random #57 wrote:Are you really, truly, seriously asking me this question on a Google platform???


So long, Random. I'd say it's been nice knowing you, but it really hasn't.

Blogger Kentucky Packrat September 23, 2018 5:25 PM  

There's a reason it's called the General Public Virus. If you're a GPL project contributor, and you've EVER obtained or copied a GPL project, you either believe that the GPL is valid, or you've been committing copyright infringement yourself. I doubt that there's a single kernel contributor who could effectively revoke their license, at least under US law.

Moreover, you're going to have to revoke the license of every person who has your code. Any person who has your code has the legal right to give your code back to the Linux Foundation, so you have to revoke against the world. Good luck with that.

Blogger tz September 23, 2018 5:35 PM  

ESR gives his take

Blogger camcleat September 23, 2018 5:46 PM  

It looks from that essay that ESR knows the answers to the questions he poses, but he refrains from stating them openly in a colossal virtue signal on "neutrality."

So close, yet so far.

Blogger tz September 23, 2018 6:20 PM  

@83 The Bug in his text is:
"OUR telos".

Coraline Cancer CoC has an entirely different telos than Linus' Have fun meritocracy. They are completely disjoint and incompatible and irreconcilable. You must pick one.

At the moment, the mainline Linux tree is the Coraline Cancer version.

The interesting (as in Chinese curse) thing will be which corporations choose the meritocratic fork (if/when it is done) or the Coraline Cancer version.

Cancer cells have a different telos than normal cells.

Blogger tz September 23, 2018 6:22 PM  

Reject #Coralinux

Blogger ThatWouldBeTelling September 23, 2018 6:25 PM  

@85 tz:

In the spirit of RMS's GNU/Linux, it's "Reject #PotteringOS/Coralinux".

Blogger VD September 23, 2018 6:34 PM  

How are these "contributors [who] are seriously considering withdrawing their code" going to make this stick without a lawsuit? Why post this gambit if in practice it actually isn't practical?

Because it is practical. The process can be started immediately, without a lawsuit or even the threat of one. The Linux Foundation is not going to want to knowingly assume a position that puts it at genuine legal risk and it the code withdrawals will give the anti-CoC people there considerable leverage to eject the SJWs and revert the CoC.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash September 23, 2018 6:39 PM  

The goal is not to win a legal decision. The goal is to revert the code of conduct.

Blogger tz September 23, 2018 6:40 PM  

Cancerous Coraline doesn't even attempt to hide it.

Blogger tz September 23, 2018 6:42 PM  

Coraline's Cancer Manifesto:

The Post-Meritocracy ManifestoEnglish Deutsch Español Nederlands Português हिन्दी भाषा

Meritocracy is a founding principle of the open source movement, and the ideal of meritocracy is perpetuated throughout our field in the way people are recruited, hired, retained, promoted, and valued.

But meritocracy has consistently shown itself to mainly benefit those with privilege, to the exclusion of underrepresented people in technology. The idea of merit is in fact never clearly defined; rather, it seems to be a form of recognition, an acknowledgement that “this person is valuable insofar as they are like me.”

(If you are not familiar with criticisms of meritocracy, please refer to the resources on this page.)

It is time that we as an industry abandon the notion that merit is something that can be measured, can be pursued on equal terms by every individual, and can ever be distributed fairly.

What does a post-meritocracy world look like? It is founded on a core set of values and principles, an affirmation of belonging that applies to everyone who engages in the practice of software development.

Our Values

These core values and principles are:

We do not believe that our value as human beings is intrinsically tied to our value as knowledge workers. Our professions do not define us; we are more than the work we do.We believe that interpersonal skills are at least as important as technical skills.We can add the most value as professionals by drawing on the diversity of our identities, backgrounds, experiences, and perspectives. Homogeneity is an antipattern.We can be successful while leading rich, full lives. Our success and value is not dependent on exerting all of our energy on contributing to software.We have the obligation to use our positions of privilege, however tenuous, to improve the lives of others.We must make room for people who are not like us to enter our field and succeed there. This means not only inviting them in, but making sure that they are supported and empowered.We have an ethical responsibility to refuse to work on software that will negatively impact the well-being of other people.We acknowledge the value of non-technical contributors as equal to the value of technical contributors.We understand that working in our field is a privilege, not a right. The negative impact of toxic people in the workplace or the larger community is not offset by their technical contributions.We are devoted to practicing compassion and not contempt. We refuse to belittle other people because of their choices of tools, techniques, or languages.The field of software development embraces technical change, and is made better by also accepting social change.We strive to reflect our values in everything that we do. We recognize that values that are espoused but not practiced are not values at all.

Blogger tz September 23, 2018 6:48 PM  

The link is at @89, the not quite properly formatted text is @90

Blogger Crew September 23, 2018 6:48 PM  

@tz: When the code doesn't work no amount of interpersonal skills is going to make it work.

Blogger ThatWouldBeTelling September 23, 2018 6:52 PM  

@87 VD:

Sounds good to me, but thinking about the two currently favored theories as to what triggered this:

If the coercion on Linus was based on the in press New Yorker article, it's already proven to be a somewhat amenable authority.

If it's a sexual assault claim, the Foundation couldn't bring Linus as such back to the fold, but it could in theory Do The Right Thing.

Blogger tz September 23, 2018 6:56 PM  

@92 that is why it is done and you must stick a fork in it.

Blogger tz September 23, 2018 6:59 PM  

ESR is attempting to negotiate (I quoted a Goodkind passage about mice attempting to negoitiate with owls).

That is the error. You don't try to live with cancer, you try to get rid of every last cell. I suggested ESR open a dialog with @CoralineAda and see how that goes.

Blogger Sweetbeak Greatest Fan September 23, 2018 7:15 PM  

Re "Ada": in feminist mythology, Ada Lovelace was the world's first computer programmer. "is considered by may to be..."

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Blogger tz September 23, 2018 7:39 PM  

Patricia Torvals goes full SJW

Blogger Gettimothy September 23, 2018 7:40 PM  

Looking forward to the updated gamergate ride never ends meme!

Blogger Crew September 23, 2018 8:01 PM  

@99: Let's see if she really achieves anything ...

Blogger tz September 23, 2018 8:10 PM  

A commenter on ESR's post noted Linus owns the Linux trademark which could be a thermonuclear bomb.

Blogger Meng Greenleaf September 23, 2018 8:14 PM  

Pierre Truc wrote:Cancer Coraline is a satanist??? Wow. How an insane little kumquat like this may have cucked the entire OpenSource coding community. I've seen the exact same thing happen in "higher" education. Anyway, I hope they destroy the cancer once and for all, for their sake.

Anonymous Anonymous September 24, 2018 12:04 AM  

The disturbing thing is that this person is clinically insane. It's too bad as a Linux user i have to legal standing because I'd demand that the Coduct code be thrown out as it's written and implemented by a person who's mental faculties are so impaired that he's insane. And I'd demand that Coraline be compelled to submit to psychaitric evaluation. Failure to do so, nullifies forever the Conduct code.

What irritates me to no end is that this is a man who deludes himself to be a women; take a supertanker load of drugs and now we have to fend off a very serious attack by a person who should be committed.
I'm sick of this codependent enablement of insanity

Blogger James Dixon September 24, 2018 5:54 AM  

And right on cue: https://news.softpedia.com/news/new-linux-distro-created-specifically-for-windows-10-522845.shtml

Paranoid? Who, me?

Blogger tz September 24, 2018 7:50 AM  

John Scalzi turns up in the strangest places and apparently started some of this.

Blogger ThatWouldBeTelling September 24, 2018 9:22 AM  

@105 James Dixon:

And right on cue: https://news.softpedia.com/news/new-linux-distro-created-specifically-for-windows-10-522845.shtml

Paranoid? Who, me?


No systemd, so I count it as a net win.

Blogger Dirk Manly September 24, 2018 10:47 AM  

"No systemd, so I count it as a net win."


Well, you can't have TWO svchost.exe type processes running on a machine at the same time --- there won't be any CPU cycles left for anything else!

Blogger Damelon Brinn September 24, 2018 11:45 AM  

There's now a meme that's a picture of Coraline with the caption "He will not divide us".

Blogger Spud September 24, 2018 2:26 PM  

I actually do a lot of work with Drupal. I remember very clearly the Larry Garfield debacle. They ostracized him to the extreme even though he was one of the best programmers in the CMS. The intersting thing is... he was and still is a very very left leaning SJW type person. He pissed off the wrong person and they spent a lot of time digging into his past. Even the creator of Drupal, Dries, stated clearly that Larry broke no rules in the Code of Conduct but had to go despite that fact.

My main work environment in Linux... I am completely surrounded by this SJW infiltration.

Blogger tz September 24, 2018 3:28 PM  

@92 - but they won't be triggered by microaggressions as the world burns due to their error.
Some people want to see the world burn.
Others don't care if it does as long as the diversity virtue signal is illuminated by the flames.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd September 24, 2018 8:03 PM  

tz wrote:Patricia Torvals goes full SJW

Whatever other things Linus might have accomplished, he was a failure as a father.

Blogger George Rogers September 24, 2018 9:06 PM  

The men of the mind are on strike!

Blogger The Monster September 25, 2018 4:13 PM  

RE: GPL Enforceability

One of the FSF lawyers (I think Lawrence Lessig) said that if he ever had to try a GPL case, he'd go into court, tell the judge "Your Honor, the defendant is using my client's copyrighted computer code without a license. Please make him stop!" Once the fact that the code is copyrighted is established, the burden of proof is on the defendant to show that he has the legal right to use it. If the defendant questions the validity of the GPL, then he's saying he has no such right. He has to accept the GPL in court to defend himself from copyright infringement, but if he has failed to live up to its terms, he's still guilty of copyright infringement.

Blogger tz September 25, 2018 6:55 PM  

Killswitch in praxis

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