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Wednesday, September 19, 2018

The second invasion of America

The ongoing foreign invasion of the USA is now larger than the population of the UK or France and comprises the 21st largest "nation" in the world:
Nearly half of the residents in the nation’s five biggest cities do not speak English at home, choosing instead their native language, according to the latest Census Bureau data that details the impact of a decade of soft immigration policies.

Overall, a record 67 million do not speak English at home, said the bureau. That is nearly double in 27 years.

In its just-released analysis of the Census data, the Center for Immigration Studies said, “As a share of the population, 21.8 percent of U.S. residents speak a foreign language at home — roughly double the 11 percent in 1980.”

The Center added, “In America's five largest cities, 48 percent of residents now speak a language other than English at home. In New York City and Houston it is 49 percent; in Los Angeles it is 59 percent; in Chicago it is 36 percent; and in Phoenix it is 38 percent.”
Based on the historical precedents, the War for the Magic Dirt is going to be of a similar scale to WWII, only it has the potential to be considerably more vicious due to the complete absence of national borders. The only good news is that the various invader population centers are fairly isolated and are almost entirely incapable of self-sustenance.

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Blogger Mr Darcy September 19, 2018 4:12 PM  

That's a helluva lotta "huddled masses yearning to" get free stuff.

Blogger Jay in DC September 19, 2018 4:14 PM  

I'm going to do something I rarely do and copypasta my comment from Le Chateau here because I literally just posted about this, but the sentiment is a truism anywhere:

"They multiply geometrically. Look at those grim numbers. In a decade this trend has doubled and since the 80s and 90s has just exploded from a demographics POV. Demography is destiny which is why the best we can hope for is Balkanization. This genie is so far out of the bottle its comical to talk about anything else.

Unless you’d like to ‘remove’ by some means about 1/3 (soon to be 2/3) of the US population. I don't think anyone has the will or stomach for this."

Blogger Snidely Whiplash September 19, 2018 4:25 PM  

Jay in DC wrote:"I don't think anyone has the will or stomach for this."

Don't know any Rednecks, then? Or Italians? Or Bog Irish?

Blogger Dirk Manly September 19, 2018 4:26 PM  



"Based on the historical precedents, the War for the Magic Dirt is going to be of a similar scale to WWII, only it has the potential to be considerably more vicious due to the complete absence of national borders. The only good news is that the various invader population centers are fairly isolated and are almost entirely incapable of self-sustenance."

And incendiary devices are extremely cheap.

Blogger Iceeater September 19, 2018 4:27 PM  

When the air conditioning goes off, people will seek immediate solutions.
u will get to share your nice place in DC with one of the none English speaking undocumented homeowners.


Blogger Dirk Manly September 19, 2018 4:28 PM  

Due to the fact that the population in question is divided up into several large cities, the military concepts of "defeat in detail" and "interior lines" work to our advantage.

Blogger :^) September 19, 2018 4:35 PM  

Couldn't Trump implement an "Operation Wetback and other assorted invaders" slow boot to the backside immigration policy?

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother September 19, 2018 4:37 PM  

I'm down

Blogger Stilicho September 19, 2018 4:43 PM  

That's a lot of Squatemalans and Guacamoleans.

Blogger John September 19, 2018 4:44 PM  

Pray for us, St. Breivik.

Blogger John September 19, 2018 4:48 PM  

@2 Unless you’d like to ‘remove’ by some means about 1/3 (soon to be 2/3) of the US population. I don't think anyone has the will or stomach for this.

Do you? The first step is to admit it psuedo-anonymously on the internet.

Spiritual, philosophical, and and mental preparation is first. Then physical preparation. They all have to go back. All of them.

We do not merely have the right. We have the duty.
It is our duty to posterity.

Blogger James Dixon September 19, 2018 4:49 PM  

> How's this war going to start? Who will start it?

Wouldn't you like to know? If we knew we wouldn't tell you.

> Couldn't Trump implement an "Operation Wetback and other assorted invaders" slow boot to the backside immigration policy?

Probably, but he's shown no inclination to do so yet.

Blogger The Greay Man September 19, 2018 4:51 PM  

Every person who refuses to deport all is an advocate of the violence they seem to be unaware is coming.

Blogger tz September 19, 2018 4:51 PM  

It will be interesting when the Mottely non-Castles are laid seige to. Just In Time works well for profits. Not so well when things go wrong.

There used to be a joke that if Ford and GM did what Microsoft and Intel did, cars would cost $20 and go a thousand miles on a drop of gasoline. The response was: yes, but the first butterfly that came along would destroy civilization.

Looking logistically, it should be scary anywhere in the cities - we haven't had a big earthquake or tsunami or plague (except STDs but lets not talk about that). Or famine or if the grid goes down, most who experienced it forgot the great midwest blackout just over a decade ago.

There might be a lot of self-deportation back to the areas that can still more or less exist without high tech.

Blogger pnq87 September 19, 2018 4:52 PM  

Based on the comments I've seen online and the media demonization of white nationalism whites are in big trouble. The issue is that most whites would side with the PoC and slaughter their fellow whites if a race war ever came to the U.S. The Jews have done an excellent job of brainwashing whites to turn on each other and defend the PoC. The safest thing to do would be to move to Russia or even go further behind the lines into Chile or Argentina where the racial strife won't be as urgent. Short of that you had better get used to being second class citizens and getting discriminated agains and having pogroms done against you. Basically get used to being a Jew.

Blogger tz September 19, 2018 4:53 PM  

You would be surprised how much people can stomach after it has been empty for a while.
See Venezuela.

Blogger James Dixon September 19, 2018 4:58 PM  

> Just In Time works well for profits. Not so well when things go wrong.

You're preaching to choir here on that subject.

> we haven't had a big earthquake or tsunami or plague

In that regard there are two big concerns: Another New Madrid earthquake (https://infogalactic.com/info/New_Madrid_Seismic_Zone) and another Carrington Event (https://infogalactic.com/info/Solar_storm_of_1859). A Carrington Event could be devastating to the entire world.

Blogger Lyon September 19, 2018 4:59 PM  

@9. I think heritage Americans will come on board in inevitably victorious droves as soon as those of a Christian bent hear a half decent argument for the exception(s) to the rule of "Thou shall not kill."

Blogger James Dixon September 19, 2018 5:00 PM  

> The issue is that most whites would side with the PoC and slaughter their fellow whites if a race war ever came to the U.S.

You're forgetting that almost all of those whites are in the blue cities. They'll be the first targets of the PoC horde.

Blogger Lovekraft September 19, 2018 5:04 PM  

Guests at a Toronto hotel share their opinions at finding out, unwittingly, that the hotel is one of Trudeau's refugee camps.

https://www.tripadvisor.ca/Hotel_Review-g155019-d184104-Reviews-Radisson_Hotel_Toronto_East-Toronto_Ontario.html#REVIEWS

Blogger :^) September 19, 2018 5:06 PM  

Pols on the right need to keep hammering away on the link between immivasion and a lower standard of living. If they did nothing else that would work because the link between lefTARD/white nigger traitors rewarding their globalist PoC stooges while concurrently attacking "white privilege" will become more obvious.

Blogger kurt9 September 19, 2018 5:13 PM  

I believe this was also the cause of the 1924 law that strictly limited immigration into the U.S. The non-English speaking foreign born population was something like 15% of the total population by the late 1910's and the cultural incompatibility was becoming a problem. Now history repeats itself 100 years later.

Blogger John September 19, 2018 5:17 PM  

In the War Against Northern Aggression, Americans defended American soil against invading armies hellbent on subjugating them to a treaty-breaking foreign government. They had a moral duty to defend their homeland, to say nothing of the legal and moral right.

Meanwhile, by comparison, the American Revolution was sheer pedantry. If indeed the Americans were Englishmen, created equal with all other Englishmen, expecting them to pay for the defense of the ENGLISH empire—namely, their OWN empire, is the height of reasonableness.

Americans had absolutely no moral duty whatsoever to fight in World War I. Not a single Axis power so much as put a single soldier on American soil.
The same goes for Korea.
And Vietnam.
And the Middle East and Afghanistan.
It also goes for World War II. Americans have absolutely no moral duty to die in favor of one particular system of European government over another. Now, there was a small moral duty to fight the Japs, but Roosevelt intentionally provoked the Japs in the first place.

What we are facing today is a national crisis of a great moral magnitude than what triggered the War Against Northern Aggression. The Republicans wanted an empire, like the globalists. They wanted to punish the Southern People and destroy their way of life. But they did not want destroy or displace the Southern People, only subjugate them. They certainly did not aim to uplift homosexuals and pedophiles, destroy marriage, and destroy Christendom.

We have as much a moral duty to tear up the 14th Amendment and drive out the invaders (men, women, and children alike) as Theoden had to drive out Wormtongue and the Orcs.

War is our duty to posterity. Period.

Blogger Noah B. September 19, 2018 5:18 PM  

Based on the comments I've seen online and the media demonization of white nationalism whites are in big trouble. The issue is that most whites would side with the PoC and slaughter their fellow whites if a race war ever came to the U.S.

Ever notice that whites who profess their fond admiration for nonwhites usually do so from a safe distance? What people do is more relevant than what they say.

Blogger Dirk Manly September 19, 2018 5:27 PM  

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Blogger Salt September 19, 2018 5:29 PM  

Five cities is all?

http://nuclearsecrecy.com/nukemap/classic/

Blogger Dirk Manly September 19, 2018 5:33 PM  

@16

" The issue is that most whites would side with the PoC and slaughter their fellow whites if a race war ever came to the U.S. "

Libtards are afraid to even hold a firearm.
How are they going to be killing Red-county America, who HAS ALL THE GUNS, AND SUPPLIES ALL THE ARMY, MARINES, AND POLICE DEPARTMENTS WITH PERSONNEL.

Blogger James Dixon September 19, 2018 5:38 PM  

> And yet so sure are all of you that a race war is coming.

Lots of people predicted WWII. Lots of people predicted the fall of the Soviet Union. They were ignored and/or ridiculed. MPAI. Others are paid shills. We know which one you are.

Blogger John September 19, 2018 5:45 PM  

Paid shills gonna shill.

Blogger cecilhenry September 19, 2018 5:46 PM  


This is a big part of the problem.

Endless hostility cannot be ignored:


Paul Krugman: "They [white people] are…in the end…are not the future [in America]".

Remember he is not predicting the future, he Is telling you what the plan is. Looks like at 0:30 he's itching to say "become obsolete" but catches himself.


https://twitter.com/adangerousgoy/status/1042168032041295878

Blogger James Dixon September 19, 2018 5:47 PM  

> How will this race war start? Why will it start?

See my above questions to you.

Blogger Dirk Manly September 19, 2018 5:49 PM  

"In the War Against Northern Aggression"

I believe you misspelled "The war which was started by South Carolina troops firing on an occupied federal fort"

Blogger Snidely Whiplash September 19, 2018 5:49 PM  

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Blogger SirHamster September 19, 2018 5:51 PM  

James Dixon wrote:Could you have predicted the cause of the start of WWI? Could you have you predicted the cause of the start of WWII? Could you have or did you predict the fall of the Soviet Union? Would you have believed anyone if they had? I think we all know the answers to those questions.

But if you don't predict the Black Swan event, how can it happen!?

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother September 19, 2018 5:53 PM  

BOW BEFORE ZOGZOGZOG

Blogger Dirk Manly September 19, 2018 5:58 PM  

@26

"Meanwhile, by comparison, the American Revolution was sheer pedantry. If indeed the Americans were Englishmen, created equal with all other Englishmen, expecting them to pay for the defense of the ENGLISH empire—namely, their OWN empire, is the height of reasonableness."

The colonists were not allowed to have ANY representation in the body (Parliament) which was laying taxes on them. Thereby, they weren't being taxed, they were being JACKED.


Read Jefferson's 1774 letter to King George III, called "A Summary View of the Rights of British North America" and then tell us if you still hold the same view.

It was also printed as a pamphlet for public distribution. You can read it here:


https://books.google.com/books/about/A_Summary_View_of_the_Rights_of_British.html?id=RcI0AQAAMAAJ&printsec=frontcover&source=kp_read_button#v=onepage&q&f=false


Or here:
http://www.wdl.org/en/item/117/

Blogger Dirk Manly September 19, 2018 6:09 PM  

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Blogger Daniele Grech Pereira September 19, 2018 6:15 PM  

I am in my ancestamral homeland of Sicily in my hometown. Tonorrow I will carry the Canadian Ree Ensign that I brought to the war cemetary in Agira to the landing sites of Operation Husky where the Canadians landed. I hope they look down upon me, a Sicilian son and a Canadian veteran knowing that I lived my life to honour their sacrifice to my people. At leadt one of us will always remember them, every single die until God calls me home. What else can I do?

Blogger Daniele Grech Pereira September 19, 2018 6:17 PM  

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Blogger Daniele Grech Pereira September 19, 2018 6:17 PM  

Sorry for the typos on this godamn phone. Canada I love you.

Blogger VD September 19, 2018 6:22 PM  

FFS, I hope some of you never visit San Francisco. No doubt seeing the piles of human waste on the sidewalk will fill you with the same irresistible desire to pick it up and feel it in your hands that the comments of TOTALLY OBVIOUS TROLLS do here.

You know ZotZotZig's comments are going to be deleted. He is almost certainly the Usual Suspect. So ignore them!

Blogger DinduGoy(ransomcheckyouremail) September 19, 2018 6:23 PM  

@34 i think you meant "the war that was triggered by Lincoln refusing to evacuate the fort from sovereign southern soil and pushing to resupply it.

Blogger VD September 19, 2018 6:24 PM  

Look, it's really not that difficult. When someone "asks an honest question" and then completely ignores the answers and keeps "asking honest questions", he is a troll. Never, ever, respond to him again.

And when some new commenter name suddenly appears and posts more than one or two posts on a thread, he is a troll. Never respond to him again.

Stop taking the damn bait! It's not that hard.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine September 19, 2018 6:29 PM  

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Blogger Hammerli 280 September 19, 2018 6:31 PM  

I won't predict a war, but I will forecast that immigration will be THE issue for both 2020 and 2024.

The border needs to be sealed. The illegals have to go back, all of them. The legals have to go back, as many as possible. And we desperately need to compel adoption of English.

The alternatives are all a hell of a lot worse.

Blogger Sam September 19, 2018 6:34 PM  

Dirk Manly wrote:"In the War Against Northern Aggression"

I believe you misspelled "The war which was started by South Carolina troops firing on an occupied federal fort"


Bloody Kansas and John Brown predate that. The North believed they were holier then the South and should be allowed to murder Southerners and ignore the law. Northerners openly advocated their extermination (“Though it cost the blood of millions of white men, let it come. Let justice be done.” ― John Quincy Adams).

The South choose the only course available to them. They failed. Fortunately leftists are horrible and eat their own so Dixie was saved after the Yankees got bored and found a new cause to justify inflicting pain and suffering on others.


Dirk Manly wrote:@26

"Meanwhile, by comparison, the American Revolution was sheer pedantry. If indeed the Americans were Englishmen, created equal with all other Englishmen, expecting them to pay for the defense of the ENGLISH empire—namely, their OWN empire, is the height of reasonableness."

The colonists were not allowed to have ANY representation in the body (Parliament) which was laying taxes on them. Thereby, they weren't being taxed, they were being JACKED.

Read Jefferson's 1774 letter to King George III, called "A Summary View of the Rights of British North America" and then tell us if you still hold the same view.

It was also printed as a pamphlet for public distribution. You can read it here:



https://books.google.com/books/about/A_Summary_View_of_the_Rights_of_British.html?id=RcI0AQAAMAAJ&printsec=frontcover&source=kp_read_button#v=onepage&q&f=false


Or here:

http://www.wdl.org/en/item/117/



The tax rate in the colonies was lower then England. Your 'argument' is that since the English didn't give the colonists power, the colonists were justified in seizing it. Spoiler alert- this is leftism.

Blogger Hammerli 280 September 19, 2018 6:36 PM  

As for a trigger event, I can think of several. Remember that this is effectively a three-way fight - White, Black, and Brown. Plenty of opportunities.

Blogger Dirk Manly September 19, 2018 6:38 PM  

So what if the tax rate in the colonies was lower than in England. The tax rate being demanded by the British Crown was higher than the tax rate being demanded of Portugal, who was another ALLY in the 7 Years' War (aka French and Indian War).

You obviously didn't read the document cited, or else you wouldn't have made such an ignorant reply.

Now GO AND READ THE DOCUMENT I PROVIDED TO YOU.

Blogger Hammerli 280 September 19, 2018 6:40 PM  

WRT the American Revolution, it's worth pointing out that the Colonies had legislatures of their own. Levied taxes on their own. The issue was not one of taxes, it was a jurisdictional dispute between the Parliment on the one hand and the collective Colonial Legislatures on the other.

And the Tories were shouting for a compromise.

Blogger Dirk Manly September 19, 2018 6:44 PM  

@42

Why should Lincoln have ordered the abandonment of FEDERAL property.

In his inauguration day speech, Lincolnd SPECIFICALLY promised to NOT meddle in the internal affairs of ANY state, including all of the slave states.

That Fort was occupied for monitoring traffic in and out of the harbor for verification of the proper collection of TARRIFFS.


Read "Team of Rivals"

The South talked themselves into a war that they need not have fought, because Lincoln's highest priority was keeping the country together, NOT getting rid of slavery.

Blogger VD September 19, 2018 6:46 PM  

You're banned, ZotZotDig. Stop trying to comment here.

Blogger DraveckysHumerus September 19, 2018 6:48 PM  

@20. Lovekraft

I read the hotel reviews. Consider the virtue-signalling ones, for example:

Steve B
Nanaimo, Canada
Reviewed August 12, 2018
Hotel with Refugees - this is a good thing!
I have stayed at this property on several occasions due to business needs nearby. The hotel is busy with refugee families who are awaiting placement in communities. This humanitarian gesture is a good thing.
There are lots of kids running and playing in this hotel - as kids should do - and for this time the hotel is their home and i am the guest for 2 days

Room Tip: Be grateful that the Government of Canada is accepting refugee families

This sort of person will actively betray and otherwise fight against us.

Blogger Dirk Manly September 19, 2018 6:49 PM  

@46

"Bloody Kansas and John Brown predate that. The North believed they were holier then the South and should be allowed to murder Southerners and ignore the law. Northerners openly advocated their extermination (“Though it cost the blood of millions of white men, let it come. Let justice be done.” ― John Quincy Adams)."

I will not argue against the idea that the abolitionists were the SJW's of the 1850's.


"The South choose the only course available to them. They failed. Fortunately leftists are horrible and eat their own so Dixie was saved after the Yankees got bored and found a new cause to justify inflicting pain and suffering on others."


Lincoln PROMISED in his inauguration day speech to have a hands off policy regarding the south, but also, that he would protect ALL federal property.

ALL of the Southern legislators and other politicians who met with him after he was elected stated, to a man, that Lincoln was reasonable, and not the aggressive abolitionist as portrayed in southern newspapers [ And remember, (((who))) had the highest rate of slave ownership in the south -- at 40% of their population, compared to only 2% of the European Whites who were slave owners].

Blogger Azure Amaranthine September 19, 2018 6:50 PM  

"I believe you misspelled "The war which was started by South Carolina troops firing on an occupied federal fort""

Because the first shots fired in a war are totally the cause of the war. Poor logic.

"The tax rate in the colonies was lower then England. Your 'argument' is that since the English didn't give the colonists power, the colonists were justified in seizing it."

The taxation without representation of the colonies was a violation of the easily understood basic principle of equivalent exchange, and thus an abuse of power. In any case in which an abuse of power or failure of duties by a ruler occurs, the ruled are perfectly justified in throwing off the ruler in order to rectify the situation if the ruler refuses to rectify it himself.

Blogger Dirk Manly September 19, 2018 6:53 PM  

@49

"WRT the American Revolution, it's worth pointing out that the Colonies had legislatures of their own. Levied taxes on their own. The issue was not one of taxes, it was a jurisdictional dispute between the Parliment on the one hand and the collective Colonial Legislatures on the other."

Absolutely it was about taxes.

1: As you said.. the colonists were already paying taxes to their own legislatures -- in which they had representation, because they were elected by the colonists. They had NO representation in Parliament.

2: Parliament was demanding that all taxes be paid IN SILVER, of which the colonies already had a shortage, and DID NOT HAVE THE MEANS OF PAYING IN SILVER. If Parliament had been willing to take payment in whiskey, bourbon, or other distilled beverage, the war probably would not have happened.
The colonies LITERALLY could not afford to have what little silver which was present sent off to England.

Blogger Dirk Manly September 19, 2018 6:58 PM  

I think what happened here is that ZOGZOGZOG had posted here a few times before, and while demonstrating obtuseness, didn't go on a trolling binge.

So...we've learned something. Some trolls are starting to take steps to at least make themselves appear to be "established" before going on a trolling binge.

Blogger John September 19, 2018 7:01 PM  

@32 "The war which was started by South Carolina troops firing on an occupied federal fort"

God bless South Carolina and the Confederacy.

@36 The colonists were not allowed to have ANY representation in the body

Says the guy who said, "The war which was started by South Carolina troops firing on an occupied federal fort."

Blogger John September 19, 2018 7:03 PM  

Btw, I apologize to everyone for bringing up Lincoln's War.

It did not occur to me that anyone (Dirk) could possibly fail to observe the obvious parallel between what the Republicans did to the South and what the Globalists are doing to America: invasion.

Blogger Laramie Hirsch September 19, 2018 7:05 PM  

VD, is there a place online where I can read about discussions from Native Americans, referring to "First Americans", "Second Americans", and "Third Americans"?

I've been very interested ever since you mentioned that perspective.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine September 19, 2018 7:09 PM  

"Why should Lincoln have ordered the abandonment of FEDERAL property."

On South Carolinian soil, right in the middle of their coast, in the middle of the inlet of one of their largest harbors. During the secession crisis, in which South Carolina had already legally seceded months prior.

"That Fort was occupied for monitoring traffic in and out of the harbor for verification of the proper collection of TARRIFFS."

Tariffs that weren't being collected by the Union since months before? BS.

Blogger VD September 19, 2018 7:10 PM  

I think what happened here is that ZOGZOGZOG had posted here a few times before, and while demonstrating obtuseness, didn't go on a trolling binge.

Obtuseness is the mark of the troll. They HAVE to be obtuse, because they can't do their job otherwise.

Blogger Tars Tarkas September 19, 2018 7:14 PM  

@19 Myself and most of the people I know live in and right around a big blue city and have interacted with POC and do not suffer any delusions about them.

In my experience, it's been the people who are in the exoburbs and whitetopias that have a very unrealistic idea of POC. They see them on TV, maybe they see them in the malls, but they didn't grow up with them and don't have to deal with them on a daily basis.

In short, the further away they live, the more you like them. The crazy leftists in the cities also know.

Blogger Lance E September 19, 2018 8:08 PM  

Judging by the frenetic, shrill, desperate tone of the trolls lately, that blue wave is turning into a red tide.

If we don't do something to shore up the supply of feminine hygiene products, there will literally be blood in the streets!

Blogger Ominous Cowherd September 19, 2018 8:20 PM  

Dirk Manly wrote:I think what happened here is that ZOGZOGZOG had posted here a few times before, and while demonstrating obtuseness, didn't go on a trolling binge.

It was a trolling binge from the start. I don't think I replied to it much, because it seemed off.

Blogger Long Live The West September 19, 2018 8:38 PM  

America is an ocean away from England. It shouldn't be a surprise to anyone that things didn't work out. Especially when you consider how long travel took back then.

We may have had the same blood as the English, but blood isn't the ONLY thing that binds people together. Living on a different continent and leading a completely different way of life changes people fast.

Anonymous Anonymous September 19, 2018 8:42 PM  

@20 This was once a Travelodge. Father worked down the street. Right beside the Armenian Centre too. (I used to live near there.) Took my girlfriend there once. Memories...

Blogger Attila is my bro September 19, 2018 8:51 PM  

@Dirk Manley

>>Then, the left will go absolutely ape-shit, and any justification that Christian America has for NOT shooting leftists will have evaporated.

I don't see that happening. Running out of sympathy and shooting are completely didn't things. These antifag events are still pretty far away from most people's lives. I see the trigger being a financial collapse, à la Vox's prediction of the end of fiat currency, which is only a dozen or so years away.

Every once in a while, some local EBT system breaks down temporarily and the shitskins go nuts with violence and looting. This is well documented. Now imagine EBT being cutoff nationwide and permanently. These savages will loot their own neighborhoods first, but when they are ACTUALLY starving, they're going to move into neighborhoods with resources. That's going to be the trigger. It's going to be like a zombie movie in fast motion. And will there be cops working for free? Precisely at the time we need them the most, there will likely be mass layoffs, because a large financial crisis will likely be triggered by a wave of municipalities defaulting on pension obligations and municipalities will be belt tightening to the max. And we all know that basic services come last - way down the list after corruption and welfare. And since most large cities are Democrat/SJW run, they will double down on the same old strategies of holding basic services over the heads of taxpayers in order to get higher taxes approved. But that doesn't work in Magic Dirt America where there are few taxpayers and most "citizens" hate the cops anyway. That game will run it's course quickly when the dollar is tumbling. Then finally the Free Shit Army will be activated when the EBT system shuts down completely. After a few days of mass home invasions the shitskins will be shot just for showing their faces, looting, invading or not. Then you'll know what it means to have your skin as your uniform.

So yeah, when the big financial crisis comes, it will be time to hunker down.

Blogger Jay in DC September 19, 2018 9:00 PM  

@61

"Obtuseness is the mark of the troll. They HAVE to be obtuse, because they can't do their job otherwise."

I think it is semi-coordinated in nature. I'm seeing it at other high profile blogs too recently. These very similar types of 'concern trolls' or the 'play dumb' while asking questions that in some cases could even attract the Eye of Sauron (NSA, alphabet agencies, etc.) upon you.

Blogger Goy Rogers September 19, 2018 9:12 PM  

Don't be inside a three digit highway when the power goes out. Indian Country.

Blogger Johnny September 19, 2018 9:14 PM  


Where governments are concerned, morals are mostly just window dressing. To get it straight, follow the money.

During the time England held thirteen colonies in North America, the economic theory of the day was mercantilism. It was thought that an industrial country like England needed an external market for its production, and the colonies furnished England with that market. Americans furnished raw materials to England and used the money to buy their stuff. The British used their navy, mainly, to enforce the rules that made this happen.

The Brits got into a big war with France, when hugely in debt, and figured the colonials as British subjects should have to help pay for it. They started trying to tax the colonials in more direct ways then the covert tax that came from trade. The colonials didn't like it, perhaps the British should have been more clever, and war broke out. Following the war, after a few years, we went right back to trading with Britain just like before. The thing is, they still had a global dominating navy.

With the formation of the United States, the old New England states started using import-export taxes to create a new mercantilism, with New England as the manufacturer and the South as the consumer. The South raised funds by exporting farm goods to New England, and to England itself.

In the terminology of the day, Lincoln was a Railroad Man, tied to the industrial interests of the north. He did not want to destroy the South, he wanted to retain it as a market for northern goods. The northern industrial interests had as much to gain through slavery as did the southern plantation owners. It produced the revenue that allowed for the purchasing of their goods. It is an irony of history that Lincoln became the Great Emancipator. The problem that developed was that the war became a difficult to win deplorable mess. Following the war the South was impoverished, and policy developed, apparently, into vengeance for vengeance sake.

Blogger cloom September 19, 2018 9:20 PM  

@20 @30 I have been monitoring the new political party in Canada and the chatter of its supporters. They are very civic nationalist ex-liberals and ex-conservatives alarmed about the mohammedans and ethnic/sex-identity speech limitation laws.

What do you make of the platform? It has high globohomoist immigration levels building on the base of non-Christians already here. It is completely bizarre.

https://www.peoplespartyofcanada.ca/canada_s_immigration_policy_must_aim_to_fulfill_our_economic_needs

The platform differs from his rhetoric and his followers never read his platform or do not know what it means. He got attention because he spoke against "radical multiculturalism".

I learned he was an ethnic nationalist when he was with the Parti Quebecois. He should be running as alt-right in Quebec only, with an anti-immigration platform. Something doesn't make sense about him, and his excited followers do not upvote my alt-right comments.

They are anti aggressive-Islam but want to be tolerant and they are pro-free speech. They are looking for the old "liberal enlightenment" with small well behaved minorities, not noticing that their growing size is changing everything and so they are not diagnosing the illness and neither is their leader. They do not see my comments as the answer (my comments are what is typical for everyone here, apparently not accepted there). I think these people are going to be like the 2VO gang.

Maxime Bernier is planning a milquetoast platform but with strong rhetoric; very odd. I think he is a Ross Perot bark-no-bite, and not a Trump.

Blogger cloom September 19, 2018 9:26 PM  

"like the 2VO gang" was meant to be "like the 2VS comicsgatekeepers gang".

Blogger Solon September 19, 2018 9:27 PM  

How about this for an exception: "Thou shalt not kill" is a mistranslation. It actually reads "thou shalt not murder," referring to unjustified killing.

Justified killing, i.e. in defense of your home and property, or of a blasphemer, is given the go-ahead by God. Hell, look at all the talk of stoning adulterers and homos and witches in the bible: those are examples of justified killing, and God not only allows it, He DEMANDS it.

Try spreading that one around the next time some soy-boy churchian wants to kvetch about commandments.

Blogger Eagle Elk September 19, 2018 9:31 PM  

Less than ten years back I was up in our capitol city. Out at the airport the NG was practicing at night. They had trucks and trailers with triple concertina razor wire bundles. They were practicing laying down and joining the triples. Four or five laid down and joined. Then they'd unjoin them and pick them up with a cool fork and rebundle them. Then do it again. Sergeant kind of winked when he said they could encircle the city in less than twelve hours. And they DO have the wire to do that ten times over. He said that down in Chicago they practiced at a 'remote' location. Just interesting :)

Blogger Gen. Kong September 19, 2018 9:38 PM  

Lurker wrote:

Couldn't Trump implement an "Operation Wetback and other assorted invaders" slow boot to the backside immigration policy?

Trump could theoretically do a lot of things: like building a wall, actually release the damned FISA memos unredacted, order the gays, wymyn and trannies out of the military instead of letting gold-plated officers relieve Marine officers of command for saying "faggot", order the arrest - not to mention firing - of actual criminals in government positions. He's done better than expected given the extent of total deep-state control over everything - note their unending screech over him.

Unless there's something al lot more impressive in the works, it will not be nearly enough. Republicans are much worse than useless. All the deep-state and their multikulti legions need to do is to wait him out and the demographics will ensure a permanent one-party state a la the ANC in South Africa. You can be 100% certain that the 67 million will not be voting for 'muh constitution' but will vote just as they did in Venezuela and all the similar shitholes they were hatched in.

Blogger Frank Brady September 19, 2018 9:42 PM  

Dirk Manly wrote:"In the War Against Northern Aggression"

I believe you misspelled "The war which was started by South Carolina troops firing on an occupied federal fort"


You must mean the war started by Lincoln and his fellow tryants to impose Washington's will on the states and the people? That war?

Blogger James Dixon September 19, 2018 9:54 PM  

> Unless there's something al lot more impressive in the works, it will not be nearly enough.

I don't think anyone here thought it would be. Trump is buying us time, nothing more. It would take at least twenty years to have any hope of actually fixing things, and we probably don't have that long.

Blogger Nihil Dicit September 19, 2018 10:06 PM  

@1 - This is rather the "wretched refuse" of the world's "teeming shores".

Blogger Lazarus September 19, 2018 10:38 PM  

James Dixon wrote:> Unless there's something al lot more impressive in the works, it will not be nearly enough.

I don't think anyone here thought it would be. Trump is buying us time, nothing more. It would take at least twenty years to have any hope of actually fixing things, and we probably don't have that long.


I am of the impression that he and his Generals think differently, or else they would not be following this course of action.

If actual Military Tribunals are scheduled, that would be an unprecedented game changer.

Yes, it is hard to visualize as we see a Supreme Court nominee be put through a ridiculous political circus, but once the Tribunals are public knowledge, the whole game will change.

If there are no Tribunals, then we can assume the worst.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother September 19, 2018 10:47 PM  

His tolerance of faggots, transsexual freaks and drag queens is a curious inconsistency to me. I'm trying to find the logic in it. Sure he issued the order to forbid transsexuals, but doesnt seem to have put too much teeth in it.

Blogger Damelon Brinn September 19, 2018 10:48 PM  

I think it is semi-coordinated in nature.

It is. They will increase as the election nears. We saw the same thing in spades in 2016. Their primary goal is to discourage people from action, especially from voting. Secondarily, they want to wear you down by getting you to explain things to them that they aren't listening to. That's why they play dumb, to draw you in.

Blogger Lazarus September 19, 2018 11:39 PM  

Stg58/Animal Mother wrote:His tolerance of faggots, transsexual freaks and drag queens is a curious inconsistency to me. I'm trying to find the logic in it. Sure he issued the order to forbid transsexuals, but doesnt seem to have put too much teeth in it.

He is not a micro-manager. Look at the new Veritas videos. He has no control over the vast minions of subversives working in the Swamp. He can issue all the orders he wants, but if no one follows them, what is the recourse?

Hopefully, as the heads-on-pikes count expands, the Swamp Scum will get the hint.

Blogger Pyro Smith September 19, 2018 11:48 PM  

In Houston, I know of one elementary school where they stopped ESL classes and are teaching roughly half of the students in Spanish. I assume this is the standard for most of the city.

A couple of interesting links:
This is using the 2010 Census data so it probably worse by now. Looking at Texas; contrast Austin, DFW, Houston, and San Antonio.
https://demographics.virginia.edu/DotMap/index.html

Data from the more recent Census.
https://statisticalatlas.com/state/Texas/Languages

And here:
https://statisticalatlas.com/state/Texas/Race-and-Ethnicity

Check out chart #3 & #4 There is a huge shift in the age cohorts 35-44yrs, 45-54yrs, and 55-64yrs. It's almost like something major happened about 35 years ago.


Also:
There are four things that should not be mentioned unless part of the OP, yea five things that fill a thread with strife;
Glock vs. Sig
Protestant vs. Catholic
North vs. South
Jew vs. Goy
Crossfit

There are three things that mark a troll, yea four ways to spot a sower of discord;
“honest questions”
New username
Ignores OP
Encouraging violence against our kind and benevolent government

Anonymous Anonymous September 20, 2018 12:32 AM  

70 million foreigners?

Couldn’t possibly make any difference.

Blogger Jack Amok September 20, 2018 12:44 AM  

I am of the impression that he and his Generals think differently, or else they would not be following this course of action.

Trump is a CivNat. He thinks it can be fixed. We know it can't.

But that doesn't mean he isn't doing valuable work. CivNats may be wrong that tribalism can be trumped (so to speak) by ideology, but at least they are pushing a Western European ideology. Their failure will be in getting various non-Whites to adopt sufficient White cultural norms in sufficient numbers to create a pan-tribal civic nationalism. But that failure will come after restoring some semblance of normalcy to us White folk acting like ourselves. That will be very valuable.

Blogger Zeroh Tollrants September 20, 2018 1:03 AM  

Well, what you think is wrong. Lots of us have both the will AND the stomach.

Blogger Zeroh Tollrants September 20, 2018 1:06 AM  

Besides, you only need about 15% of the population onboard to fight a war.

Blogger Lyon September 20, 2018 1:59 AM  

@73. That's good stuff!

Blogger Daniele Grech Pereira September 20, 2018 2:56 AM  

If one were to eject every soldier who said the word "faggot" the entire armed forces would have to close shop.

And that is one of the least offensive words I remember using in my time. Every single day.

Blogger Daniele Grech Pereira September 20, 2018 2:58 AM  

F.A.G - Fighting Age Guy

"1 this is 11, I currently have eyes on 3 F.A.Gs carrying yellow jerry cans and shovels. Will let you know if I see them digging up the roadside. Over."

Blogger Daniele Grech Pereira September 20, 2018 3:00 AM  

Glock vs Sig?

AR15 or you are gay. Pistols are for suicides and executions and gays.

Blogger Dirk Manly September 20, 2018 7:50 AM  

@57

> @36 The colonists were not allowed to have ANY representation in the body

> Says the guy who said, "The war which was started by South Carolina troops firing on an occupied federal fort.


So, when the southern states decided to LEAVBthe Senate and House of Representatives, despite Lincoln's inauguration address in which he stated, in plain, straightforward language, with no ambiguity, that he intended to do NOTHING about slavery, neither banning it where existed, nor extending it where it did not exist -- somehow that made it Lincoln's fault when the southern states decided to withdraw all of their representation from Congress?

That's a strange sort of responsibility assignment that you have there.

Blogger Dirk Manly September 20, 2018 8:03 AM  

@58


"It did not occur to me that anyone (Dirk) could possibly fail to observe the obvious parallel between what the Republicans did to the South and what the Globalists are doing to America: invasion."

In his inaugural address, Lincoln said clearly that his HIGHEST objective was to preserve the unity of the states, and that he intended that slavery would be neither extended into, nor abolished from, ANY state or territory of the country. Lincoln had ZERO intention of being an abolitionist -- he stated many times that the best path would be for slavery to die out in the south in the same way that it had gradually die out in New England (remember, the Salem Witch Trials, in Massachusetts, all revolved around a slave named Tituba, who was owned by a local family. Massachusettes, on it's own accord, abolished slavery. Similarly, all the other New England states eventually did t he same. The Federal government never outlawed slavery in ANY state or territory where it already existed, and even allowed expansion of the practice into any new state below the latitude of the southern border of Missouri.

And despite that PROMISE to not interfere with the internal affairs, including slavery, of the southern states, South Carolina decided to fire on a federal fort which existed for the purpose of verifying tariff revenue collection, and then after that, when the Federal government did nothing other than evacuate that fort, the southern states decided to raid federal armories (just as John Brown had been executed for), and form a multi-state army NOT under the direction of Washington, D.C., in direct contradiction with the Constitution. And again, somehow that's Lincoln's fault.

Lincoln never even called for raising an army until the southern states put 15,000 men under arms on the south bank of the Potomac River, just outside the federal district (which is today Alexandria, VA) boundaries.

Blogger Blaidd September 20, 2018 8:12 AM  

@92

That statement meant that there would be no new slave states admitted to the Union, effectively freezing the number of representatives for the South while new states would be admitted that sided with the North. Lincoln's magnanimous statements were poison that would eat away at the South's ability to have any effect on national policy.

Blogger Dirk Manly September 20, 2018 8:18 AM  

@70

"During the time England held thirteen colonies in North America, the economic theory of the day was mercantilism. It was thought that an industrial country like England needed an external market for its production, and the colonies furnished England with that market. Americans furnished raw materials to England and used the money to buy their stuff. The British used their navy, mainly, to enforce the rules that made this happen."


According to Jefferson's A Summary View of the Rights of British North America, Britain had NO colonies in what is today the United States. Not a single one of the 13 colonies in question was formed by the plan of, inveestment from, or assistance by the British government. EACH of the colonies was formed by private enterprise. The blood and treasure expended to form those colonies came all from the colonists themselves(*), and the colonists had been self-governing before even setting foot on North American soil.

As Jefferson pointed out, the British Crown had no more right to tax them to pay the expenses of the 7 Years' War than to tax the people of Portugal for the same reason. Until the 7 Year's War, the British Crown had never even taken an interest in the North American colonies (other than to tax the Virginia Corporation of London), in contrast to the SIGNIFICANT investment of Treasure from the Crown, and the blood of King's armies in gaining and securing, for example, India.

The fact that most of the colonists spoke the same language as the members of Parliament did not give Parliament a special right to tax war-time ALLIES.




(*) except for some initial PRIVATE investment from The Virginia Company in London -- who paid for the cost of shipping over the original colonists, and some of the follow-ons for several years afterwards)

Blogger Blaidd September 20, 2018 8:20 AM  

Zeroh Tollrants wrote:Besides, you only need about 15% of the population onboard to fight a war.

When I searched once a while back for the percentage of the population that fought for American independence the number I found was 8%, majority being militia. And that was for stand-in-line-and-catch-bullets combat. It requires even less for asymmetric warfare.

Blogger Dirk Manly September 20, 2018 8:26 AM  

@70

"In the terminology of the day, Lincoln was a Railroad Man, tied to the industrial interests of the north. He did not want to destroy the South, he wanted to retain it as a market for northern goods. The northern industrial interests had as much to gain through slavery as did the southern plantation owners. It produced the revenue that allowed for the purchasing of their goods. It is an irony of history that Lincoln became the Great Emancipator. The problem that developed was that the war became a difficult to win deplorable mess. Following the war the South was impoverished, and policy developed, apparently, into vengeance for vengeance sake."

The south was impoverished because

1) throughout the war, the south lacked any capacity to earn revenue (due to the federal blockade of the southern ports)

2) most of the men of military age who could read and write were dead or invalids

3) Sherman's March to the Sea was hardly the only physical destruction suffered by the south. Railway lines, scarce to begin with in the south, were cut up. The physical plant of Birmingham, Alabama, while not razed to the ground like Atlanta, had been mostly destroyed by bombardment. It literally took the south 100 years to recover from the DAMAGE done by the war. (Remember, other than Lee's incursion into Pennsylvania, for the purpose of obtaining supplies from northern sources, which turned into the Battle of Gettysburg, was the ONLY significant battle of large armies in northern lands. The battles in Missouri and Kansas were all very small affairs -- raids conducted by units of only platoon, or at most, company size, and resisted by similarly sized opposing forces (battalion at most -- which in those days, was only 2 or 3 line companies plus a headquarters)

Blogger Dirk Manly September 20, 2018 8:34 AM  

@70

"In the terminology of the day, Lincoln was a Railroad Man, tied to the industrial interests of the north. He did not want to destroy the South, he wanted to retain it as a market for northern goods. The northern industrial interests had as much to gain through slavery as did the southern plantation owners. It produced the revenue that allowed for the purchasing of their goods. It is an irony of history that Lincoln became the Great Emancipator. The problem that developed was that the war became a difficult to win deplorable mess. Following the war the South was impoverished, and policy developed, apparently, into vengeance for vengeance sake."

The British and the French BOTH had terrible economies, NOT due to the war, but due to the fact that they took the advice of their Rothchild bankers, and changed their policies to "free trade."

Vietnam had a greater impact on our economy than the entirety of the 7 Years' War had on the British economy. If they had CONTINUED to practice mercantilism, there never would have been the Corn Riots and other symptoms of a failing economy which inspired the Parliament to start looking for other sources of revenue (having decided that importation tariffs were some sort of dirty money which the government should not benefit from). Having decided to stop raising revenue through tarrifs, they suddenly, after 200 years of utter and complete neglect of the colonies (because the colonies were self-supporting and had never ASKED for any assistance from the Crown), suddenly, Parliament decided that they had direct jurisdiction of these people who had LEFT BRITAIN to start new lives. British soldiers had never stepped foot in North American until the British decided that killing Frenchmen in North America was just as just as good as killing Frenchmen in Egypt and India, and on the high seas.

Blogger Dirk Manly September 20, 2018 8:39 AM  

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Blogger Dirk Manly September 20, 2018 8:40 AM  

@74

"Less than ten years back I was up in our capitol city. Out at the airport the NG was practicing at night. They had trucks and trailers with triple concertina razor wire bundles. They were practicing laying down and joining the triples. Four or five laid down and joined. Then they'd unjoin them and pick them up with a cool fork and rebundle them. Then do it again. Sergeant kind of winked when he said they could encircle the city in less than twelve hours. And they DO have the wire to do that ten times over. He said that down in Chicago they practiced at a 'remote' location. Just interesting :)"

Yep. And 30 meters worth of concertina wire, when in it's bundled configuration for storage, is about 4 inches thick, with only a slightly larger diameter. You can store enough wire to encircle a major city in less volume than a 2-car garage. A couple garages' worth can encircle the suburbs, too.

Blogger Dirk Manly September 20, 2018 8:44 AM  

@76

"Yep. And 30 meters worth of concertina wire, when in it's bundled configuration for storage, is about 4 inches thick, with only a slightly larger diameter. You can store enough wire to encircle a major city in less volume than a 2-car garage. A couple garages' worth can encircle the suburbs, too."

Lincoln did NOT start the war. The southern states voted to secede before Lincoln even arrived in Washington, and they fired the first shots, DESPITE Lincoln's promise to them to leave them alone and NOT meddle in the internal affairs of ANY state of the union.

The southern papers were full of hot-heads, who misrepresented his speeches, whipping up a war fever over things that Lincoln never even thought, let alone said.

Blogger Dirk Manly September 20, 2018 8:51 AM  

@79

"I am of the impression that he and his Generals think differently, or else they would not be following this course of action."

MOST of the flag officers are Obama-ites, or men who managed to keep their heads down and not get noticed for being traditionalists and patriots. Obama went on a scorched earth campaign, but indirectly -- rather than firing them directly, he just used the "an officer passed over for promotion twice ==> the officer must either: a) resign his commision, and stay in as an enlisted servicemember; b) keep his rank, but transfer to the National Guard, the Selected Reserve, or some other reserve component; c) if having served at least 20 years, retire (go into the Retired Reserve), or d) just get out.

We lost a LOT of really good officers in the regular army during Obama's 2nd term, because anyone who wasn't willing to mouth the correct PC-isms, refrain from non-PC talk, and bend over backwards putting "diversity" above readiness was shit-canned, if not immediately, then after HIS senior rater was shit-canned for the same reasons.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd September 20, 2018 8:54 AM  

VDaniel Paul Grech Pereira wrote:Glock vs Sig?

AR15 or you are gay. Pistols are for suicides and executions and gays.


AR-anything is queer as a 3 dollar bill. Mattel guns for Barbie.

You want a Garand, or FAL, or so.

Blogger Dirk Manly September 20, 2018 8:56 AM  

@79

"I am of the impression that he and his Generals think differently, or else they would not be following this course of action."

This is just Anita Hill all over again, but without even a smidgen of evidence. (Hill had evidence that she had worked with Thomas....but unfortunately, there was also evidence that she had FOLLOWED Thomas from job to job... destroying any credibility of her "I wuz hur-ASSED!" claim.

Kavanaugh's accuser can't even substantiate the claim that she was ever in the same room as Kavanaugh. The party she describes being victimized by Kavanaugh -- the two people she named claim never happened....and it was simultaneously both during the summer AND during the school year (i.e. her story has internal contradictions, because she didn't work out all of the details of her lie before telling it to the press).

Blogger Dirk Manly September 20, 2018 9:03 AM  

@87

"Besides, you only need about 15% of the population onboard to fight a war."

The American War for Independance was won with only 5% of the population on board, with approximately 2% (mostly in New York) aiding and assisting the King.

The problem, as I see it, was that the colonists had never fully established a clear identity as being apart from the European powers. "The rights of Englishmen" was a really poorly thought-out phrase... because it implied that the colonists were still under the jurisdiction of the Crown, when most surely they were self-governing, and had already waged several wars (against the native tribes) without so much as one musket ball from Parliament and the King's government, let alone the efforts and blood of any of the King's soldiers.

Blogger Dirk Manly September 20, 2018 9:17 AM  

@91

"AR15 or you are gay. Pistols are for suicides and executions and gays."

AR15 in .223/5.56mm(*) is underpowered. Anything .308/7.62mmx54 is good for sniping (over 300m), but too much kick for a firefight.
AR-15 shooting 6.5mm is probably the best. Or even HK 416 chambered in 6.5mm. SLIGHT loss of accuracy than the AR-15/M-16 gas operated direct impingement system, but the use of operating rod and gas piston keeps the upper receiver much cleaner (little to no carbon fouling on the bolt), and cleaning the gas cylinder well enough to resume firing means nothing more than a couple seconds of poking some wire through the gas cylinder holes to break up some of the carbon. The only problem is you're not going to make quite as many hits at 300m as you would with a clean AR-15/M-16, but you'll still be firing at the slightly reduced accuracy long after the AR/M-16 has stopped operating due to fouling.

Of course, if you fire that many rounds from and AR-15/M-16 in a firefight, you should consider yourself lucky to be alive. Most firefights don't require 20x the basic combat load of 7 full magazines.



(*) Yes, I know that .223 inches does not equal 5.56mm. One measures the diameter of the rifling grooves, the other measures the diameter of the rifling lands. Same of 7.62/.308.

Blogger Chris Mallory September 20, 2018 10:16 AM  

Dirk Manly wrote:Lincoln did NOT start the war. The southern states voted to secede before Lincoln even arrived in Washington, and they fired the first shots, DESPITE Lincoln's promise to them to leave them alone and NOT meddle in the internal affairs of ANY state of the union.

1) Secession is the right of every people.
2) The war did not start when the sovereign Southern People left the union.
3) Every nation has the right to remove foreign troops and to prevent invasion or
"resupply" as the tyrant Lincoln called it.
4) The Southern States were no longer members of the "union", so the tyrant Lincoln's promise was worthless.

It was a shame Lincoln was not strangled in the crib. At least Booth gave Lincoln what he deserved.

Blogger Johnny September 20, 2018 10:32 AM  

@95

During the time the Europeans were moving into North America, Europe was divided up into several major powers. The important ones for the colonials were England, France, and Spain. These countries laid claim to different territories in the New World, and were predatory. That is, they might will use force to pillage or seize property from some other country.

That is why the colonies (the important ones) were formed by getting a charter of some type from the king to settle the territory. To do otherwise would risk being treated as a squatter with no property rights. It would also risk losing you territory to an invader, as the property would have no nation state protector.


While the newly formed United States government did not call the western territories colonies, the same arrangement was used by the United States in settling, among other areas, the Ohio River Valley. The US had claim to the territory by way of treaty with England, the previous power that laid claim to the territory. That is why Arron Burr was unable to form his own new country when he moved west. He was still in territory claimed by the United States, England declined to back him, thus he lacked the military force needed to form his own new country. Was this moral? Just? Decide what you want to but it changes nothing. This is the way of the world whether one cares for it or not.

It is highly misleading to say that the "British Crown had never even taken an interest in the North American colonies." What they took little interest in was the internal affairs. Externally they were most certainly active. Commercially they set themselves up as the exclusive trading partner and gave umbrella protection to our ports. That is the reason pirates and foreign powers couldn't show up at some port and pillage the place.

Huff and puff it isn't fair, it is the way of the world. The house I live in was built with no assistance from any government. Yet governments presume the right to tax me for owning the house. The other side of it is that they secure my property rights. That is why a home invader cannot kill me and become the owner of the house.

Blogger Jay in DC September 20, 2018 10:33 AM  

@91 "Glock vs Sig?

AR15 or you are gay. Pistols are for suicides and executions and gays."

You and every person that replied to you are 100% part of the problem. You are circle-jerking arguing about weapon type and even caliber.

You know what beats the Sig, Glock, and AR15 platform all day every day and twice on Tuesday?

A .25 caliber Sat. night special in the hands of a gangbanger willing to use it at a moment's notice. While you are dying slowly from a gut wound at point blank range your last thought will probably be- "but that is a mouse gun!"

The best firearm is the one that you are willing to use. What we have instead is a bunch of pedantic spergs arguing while Rome is burning.

300 million guns and no political will, I stand by my original statement in post #2. Nobody has the stomach or the will. If they did this would have happened years ago when it was obvious that the ballot box was not the solution.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd September 20, 2018 11:20 AM  

Jay, this late in the thread we are just poking one another.

Blogger James Dixon September 20, 2018 11:23 AM  

> I am of the impression that he and his Generals think differently, or else they would not be following this course of action.

I hope he and his generals are correct and I'm wrong. But I know which way to bet.

> If actual Military Tribunals are scheduled, that would be an unprecedented game changer.

That it would. I'm not going to hold my breath. Hope, but don't count on it.

> The best firearm is the one that you are willing to use.

Which is why my wife has a Smith & Wesson .22 LR pistol. It's what she can handle comfortably.

Blogger James Dixon September 20, 2018 11:24 AM  

> If they did this would have happened years ago when it was obvious that the ballot box was not the solution.

It's not apparent to most people that the ballot box isn't the solution yet. If Trump is removed from office that will change.

Blogger Tars Tarkas September 20, 2018 11:38 AM  

@96 Any kind of war within the current US probably wouldn't really involve the military. The military just isn't the right tool. They are good at breaking stuff and that is about it. Their hardware is designed to be fighting state actors. What, exactly, would they do with fighter jets, tanks or missiles? Helicopters might be useful, but they wouldn't be firing those small air to ground missiles.

If there were some kind of war in the US involving citizens, it would be fought by the various police agencies.

If states got involved, then military clashes might happen. But this is far fetched. Anyone attacking the government would be called a terrorist and the DHS, FBI etc along with state and local police would be the primary front lines against them.

Blogger justaguy September 20, 2018 12:19 PM  

# 107: "1) Secession is the right of every people."

Is it? While the UN has currently settled on this for some states, it doesn't seem to apply for all of Europe. How about if in a few years a few states in the SW US sucedes as 52% of the residents would rather be part of Mexico? How about people on a reservation and succession? Succession is a can of worms that takes much more than simply a statement as an absolute good.

Blogger Blaidd September 20, 2018 12:57 PM  

@114

What do you mean "how about"? We predict exactly that will happen. If Californians have no stomach to save their land, which they've shown they don't, then why should we care if California becomes Mexico del Norte? And I wish the Native tribes would secede. They should be afforded the right to rule themselves the same as any other nation.

Blogger DonReynolds September 20, 2018 12:58 PM  

Snidely Whiplash wrote:Jay in DC wrote:"I don't think anyone has the will or stomach for this."

Don't know any Rednecks, then? Or Italians? Or Bog Irish?



Completely agree.
There is no shortage of men (or women) who can sanitize their own county in a very short period of time. Most of the problems would choose to go elsewhere and the hardheads would remain permanently. Those who leave will be saving their own hide.

Blogger Dirk Manly September 20, 2018 1:06 PM  

@107

"It is highly misleading to say that the "British Crown had never even taken an interest in the North American colonies." What they took little interest in was the internal affairs. Externally they were most certainly active. Commercially they set themselves up as the exclusive trading partner and gave umbrella protection to our ports."

In 1497, John Cabot was the first European to discover the coast of mainland North America, and who claimed the land for England, was backed by a group of PRIVATE INVESTORS in Bristol, England. His first landfall and only on the North American mainland, on his 2nd expedition, , was in the privately funded expedition and privately owned ship, Mathew, near Cape Bonavista, Newfoundland. On his return in Aug 1497, he reported his voyage to Henry VII, who gave him a reward of 10 Lb Sterling, a further 2 Lb reward in Sept, in Dec he was awarded a 20 Lb/year pension. These payments are rewards for accomplishments, not investments with a possibility of no productive outcome. Henry did invest in his 3rd expedition, but if was fruitless. and the entire fleet may have been lost at sea, as no records exist of it returning.

Roanoke colony was established in 1585, sponsored by Walter Raleigh. With supplies low, many colonists returned to England, leaving 108 to stay. The resupply mission captured a Spanish galleon on the way to England, but was delayed for over a year. During that year, Francis Drake, operating as a privateer was raiding shipping around Bermuda, and stopped by the colony. An unknown number returned to England with Drake. A second expedition arrived in July 1587, but that time, all of the remaining colonists had disappeared. Resupply was delayed due to the Anglo-Spanish war, but finally arrived in 1590, and once again, the entire colony was missing; the only trace that they had been there was the word "CROATOAN" carved into a tree. The Croatan tribe lived on nearby Hatteras Island, but no artifacts which have turned up have ever been definitively traced to the Roanoke colonists. In any event, the entire thing was a private venture.

James Fort, which became Jamestown, was established by the London Virginia Company in 1607, using funds loand from Merchant Adventurers, who were a group of speculators intending to profit from the colony.

Cuper's Cove, Newfoundland, chartered by the Society of Merchant Venturers was established as a permanent settlement in 1610.

St George's, Bermuda was founded by the Virginia Company in 1612.

Plimouth Plantation (the Plymouth Colony aka New Plymouth) was established in 1620 by a group of Puritans, through the London Virginia Compan; Merged with the Massachussetts Bay Colony in 1691.

New Netherland (New York state) was founded by the Dutch in 1614, New Ansterdamn (NYC) was founded in 1624, both by the Dutch West India Company. in 1664, 4 British frigates arrived in the harbor and demanded the surrender of the city. At the behest of city residents, Peter Stuyvesant surrendered Fort Amsterdam -- this affair caused the 2nd Anglo-Dutch War. In 1673, The Dutch brought a fleet to Manhattan and recaptured the Fort.

Plymouth
The Navigation Act which stated that ALL shipping too and from American ports must directly come from, or go to, England. However, as the crown provided no officers in any North American ports, this law was never applied to the North American colonies until after the 7 Years' War, when the British Army, using the colonies as bases of operation against the French, decided that the Crown needed to appoint governors and other officials for people who had been governing themselves for a century already.


Blogger Dirk Manly September 20, 2018 1:08 PM  

Continued...



"That is the reason pirates and foreign powers couldn't show up at some port and pillage the place."

The British Navy hated pirates regardless of whom they preyed upon. Captain Cook was operating under a letter of marque, attacked a French ship, and the British hunted him down, brought him back to England, and hung, drew & quartered, and then gibbeted him for Piracy.

Being an Island nation DEPENDENT upon freedom of the seas, the British fought, captured, and prosecuted pirates wherever they found them, or even heard of them, because piracy constituted a direct threat to ALL of Britain's international trade.

Blogger Dirk Manly September 20, 2018 1:13 PM  

@108

"Huff and puff it isn't fair, it is the way of the world. The house I live in was built with no assistance from any government. Yet governments presume the right to tax me for owning the house. The other side of it is that they secure my property rights. That is why a home invader cannot kill me and become the owner of the house."

We never had ANY SUCH THING until Marx came along and sold politicians on the idea that ALL land should be rented from the state, and that no person should ever have true owner (and durable title) to his own land, even if it has purchased it.

Your deed today is merely an exclusive license to rent, no different in substance than the "Personal Seat Licence" that some stadium owners were charging season ticket holders.

If you truly owned your land, the government could not take it (and ONLY it) for failure to pay property taxes. The fact that the ONLY remedy for nonpayment of property taxes is surrendering the land is the proof that you don't actually own it, and that Marx's shenanigans have infiltrated real estate law.

Blogger Dirk Manly September 20, 2018 1:21 PM  

@115

"What do you mean "how about"? We predict exactly that will happen. If Californians have no stomach to save their land, which they've shown they don't"

Californians have been fleeing to Oregon, Washington, Denver, and Texas. The common refrain in ALL of those states has been variations on "We Don't care how you did it in California!!!"

Now, since the other 47 CONUS states have provided an escape valve for white Californians, why would you expect the same outcome, when say, Ohioans have NOWHERE to escape to?

Putting a fire under an open-topped vessel of water produces a VERY different (and extremely mild) outcome compared to putting a fire under a vessel of water with a sealed top.

Blogger Were-Puppy September 20, 2018 2:49 PM  

This thread lost 20 pounds when I ignored all the yankee spergery.

Blogger Johnny September 20, 2018 3:27 PM  

@119

>>We never had ANY SUCH THING until Marx came along and sold politicians on the idea that ALL land should be rented from the state, and that no person should ever have true owner (and durable title) to his own land, even if it has purchased it.

I am surprised by your comments because they are so ahistorical. Once people settled down and became farmers, just about everywhere the assumption was that the king owned everything. Those who got the use of the property were privileged by the king to use his property. The king could not seize the property because he already owned it. The users were renters except that the rental arrangement could be terminated at any time. The king need only revoke the privilege.

Marx got involved in all kinds of nonsense, including the idea that the state was supposed to wither away, and property ownership was supposed to be collective. In practice his theories when implemented tended to return things back to the way they used to be, back to the central authority effectively acting as the owner of everything. But this was hardly a new idea. It was a regression to a more primitive level of development.

>>If you truly owned your land, the government could not take it (and ONLY it) for failure to pay property taxes. The fact that the ONLY remedy for nonpayment of property taxes is surrendering the land is the proof that you don't actually own it, and that Marx's shenanigans have infiltrated real estate law.

The fact that the government can seize (take) my property is proof that I own it. You can only evict a renter because they don't own the property they are using. Thus no seizure and no sale after eviction. Ownership consists of a collection of rights. Renters have only the right to use the property during the rental period.

I have, for example, the right to waste my property if I wish to. If local laws otherwise permit, I can burn my own house down and not be sued by the government for wasting an asset as the asset belongs to me. If I rent the house out and the tenant burns it down, I can sue him for loss of value because I am the owner. (The rub is that tenants frequently lack the asset value necessary to collect the judgement.)

It is true that governments are gradually reducing property rights, and it is true that Marx's theories do lead to a lack of ownership rights; but these things are hardly new with Marx and the somewhat reduced private property rights are still with us.


Blogger Dirk Manly September 20, 2018 6:52 PM  

@122

"I am surprised by your comments because they are so ahistorical. Once people settled down and became farmers, just about everywhere the assumption was that the king owned everything. "

WE, in the United States, never assumed that any King owned ANYTHING of ours.

Blogger Dirk Manly September 20, 2018 6:54 PM  

"The fact that the government can seize (take) my property is proof that I own it. You can only evict a renter because they don't own the property they are using. Thus no seizure and no sale after eviction. Ownership consists of a collection of rights. Renters have only the right to use the property during the rental period. "



The "property tax" is your periodic rent payment.

In the United States, this can be directly traced back to Marx, and ONLY Marx.

Blogger Johnny September 20, 2018 7:09 PM  

@124

>>The "property tax" is your periodic rent payment.

>>In the United States, this can be directly traced back to Marx, and ONLY Marx.


From Fox Business,

Snapshot: Taxes We Paid Then vs. Now

2. Property tax: One of the earliest taxes imposed. In 1634, property taxes were assessed by the colonies. In 1796, 14 of the 15 states collected property tax. Delaware levied tax on income from property, but not on the property itself.

Blogger justaguy September 20, 2018 8:37 PM  

Some of the Alt Right may believe that every group of people have the right to their own nation where they can live according to their own culture (bad paraphrase of one of the points) but the key has always been where!

Everyplace has been conquered many times by succeeding tribes/groups/nations. Too many issues for one thread to cover-- especially when some of the p[laces were pretty much undeveloped/empty when one group developed them.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine September 21, 2018 2:10 AM  

"The fact that the government can seize (take) my property is proof that I own it. You can only evict a renter because they don't own the property they are using."

This is one of those stupid juxtapositions I keep for record-book placement. This is you using different words for exactly the same thing and pretending that they then somehow don't mean the same thing.

"Thus no seizure and no sale after eviction."

Eviction is the seizure, and the sale is to the next tenant/"owner".

On the one hand, Johnny is correct that property tax has existed pretty much the whole time in the USA. On the other, his above arguments make no sense.

The most simple way I know of to relate the dynamic goes like this:

#1: If any taxes are payed, they are collected in return for services.
#2: If any tax is collected for which no service is rendered, said tax is an overreach/abuse, and should not exist.

I don't know what the property tax laws are where anyone else commenting lives, but where I live they almost entirely go to pay for public schooling* -- no aspect of which my family either ever has nor ever will use. In our case, this property tax is certainly an abuse, and should not exist.

*Note: Other services, such as policing and/or governmental intervention per valid ownership of the property, are paid by other means or other taxes.

Blogger James Dixon September 21, 2018 4:09 PM  

> I don't know what the property tax laws are where anyone else commenting lives, but where I live they almost entirely go to pay for public schooling*

Here also. But not only should the tax not exist, taxpayer funding schooling should not exist.

Blogger Avalanche September 26, 2018 9:39 AM  

@126 "some of the p[laces were pretty much undeveloped/empty when one group developed them."

I answer some idiot telling me to "go back to Europe" if we don't like the brown- and yellow-invasions with this:

okay-sure, but we're taking ALL OF AMERICA with us; and destroying what we built that can't be moved with us! NO ONE is coming here for the wide open land with multiple native tribes fighting and enslaving each other.... They are moving here for what WE BUILT! If "America" goes away with us, so does any reason most imvaders have for wanting to come here!

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