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Saturday, September 22, 2018

Wait, what?

Now Q is confirming... aliens? Even Neon Revolt is more than a little dubious:
Guys, believe me, I’m right there in the Twilight Zone with ya.

Separating fact from fiction is very challenging here, and frankly… I’ve never wanted to walk away from #QAnon more than I do right now.

And it’s not helped along by the fact that… it’s not at all clear what Q really meant when he answered. What I mean is: there’s a spectrum of conclusions you could arrive at here:

Was he saying that they’ve picked up radio waves from a far distant corner of the galaxy?

Or is he saying Bill Cooper is right, and First Contact was made 70-odd years ago?

The reason – the only reason – I’m not abandoning Q right now… is because of all the other hundreds of #QConfirmations we’ve had along the way.

And, of course, that video I took, years ago.

Amidst the uproar, #Anon noted this: Friendly or hostile?

We’re building a #SpaceForce, anon.

They’re all getting armed with battle rifles for a reason.

You tell me.

(That, more than anything, should speak volumes).
This just gets more interesting and entertaining by the day. I assume this is disinformation meant to distract from other fronts, but at this point, I wouldn't rule anything out. The thing I find myself wondering, though, is if a larper went there, wouldn't he be a little more... dramatic on the issue?

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105 Comments:

Blogger SciVo September 22, 2018 5:40 AM  

The Feds arm everyone and their grandmother these days. The USDA isn't armed for mad cows, the Forest Service isn't armed for invasive trees, the Postal Service isn't armed for undead letters, and I very much doubt that the Space Force is armed for space aliens.

Blogger Teleros September 22, 2018 5:43 AM  

Q didn't actually confirm them, but this is what happened during the Q&A (ie, not a regular Q drop):

>Are we alone? Roswell?
No.
Highest classification.
Consider the vastness of space.

"No we're not alone" is a pretty reasonable statement given "the vastness of space" and the assumption that Earth isn't the only planet inhabited by intelligent creatures in the universe.

Meanwhile, the official story about what happened at Roswell - "Operation Mogul" - is classified top secret, ie the highest classification in the US.

Still, let's suppose little green men have been visiting and all that fun stuff. All seems a bit irrelevant given that:

1. The swamp still needs draining.
2. There is nothing we can do to them if they want to fight.

So... yeah. All in all this thing seems like a bit of a distraction.

Blogger Double E September 22, 2018 5:44 AM  

I think its more obvious than ever that Q is just a regular person - who has some inside knowledge which, mixed with his desires, idiosyncrasies, predictions, and flaws, gives us what we know as Q.


Which is why I still feel that, regardless of whether he is legit or not, nothing he says really matters. Its not actionable information. And even if it could be, he is wrong about enough that you couldn't act on it anyway.

So for now we will have to settle for entertainment and 'morale'.

Do not let any of the above be misconstrued as anything other than absolute support for the God Emperor Trump and his America first agenda.

#MAGA

Blogger Teleros September 22, 2018 5:47 AM  

""No we're not alone" is a pretty reasonable statement given "the vastness of space" and the assumption that Earth isn't the only planet inhabited by intelligent creatures in the universe."

/headdesk

Clearly I need more caffeine in the mornings.

Blogger VD September 22, 2018 5:47 AM  

Which is why I still feel that, regardless of whether he is legit or not, nothing he says really matters. Its not actionable information. And even if it could be, he is wrong about enough that you couldn't act on it anyway.

Morale matters. Greatly. So, what Q says matters greatly, as he is definitely a positive for remoralizing MAGA and the God-Emperor's Legions.

Blogger Edward Isaacs September 22, 2018 5:59 AM  

Oh, well, that's just great, now my Lord is an alien hologram.

Millstones for liars, false morale be damned.

Blogger CoolHand September 22, 2018 6:05 AM  

IMO the bit about aliens was meant as a signal flare of sorts to draw in a large audience (~450k unique IP's) to stress test 8chan in advance of big things that are currently in the pipeline but haven't dropped yet.

Wouldn't do to have your main avenue of info dissemination fold up under the strain of enormous traffic just as you need to get the word out about something important.

Easiest way to draw a huge crowd is to make some noise about a topic that is wildly popular in conspiracy circles.

Talk of aliens is like crack to the internet's inhabitants. They'd flock to it like flies to a fresh pile of shit.

No better way to conduct an impromptu stress test on very short notice. Like an organic DDoS on demand.

Blogger Expendable Faceless Minion September 22, 2018 6:07 AM  

The Chinese just announced their own BFR. 140 tons to LEO on one rocket. The Space Force is to compete with other Terrans, not Klingons.

Blogger Double E September 22, 2018 6:17 AM  

Morale matters. Greatly. So, what Q says matters greatly, as he is definitely a positive for remoralizing MAGA and the God-Emperor's Legions.

I understand that morale matters for those who are on the front line actually doing. But most of the people who keep talking about morale are not in the administration, or intelligence, or federal law enforcement or whatever. They are just spectators, who would have been voting for Trump and MAGA candidates anyway.

Is it your opinion that Q has actually increased total support for Trump and/or MAGA candidates? I'm not seeing it.

It requires a significant amount of time and energy investment to even track all the Q posts and keep up with the (varied) interpretations, and everybody doing it would most likely be ardent Trump supporters anyway.

When you factor in the 'weak hands' who have actually been scared away by the weirdness of it all, I don't think Q has actually increased TOTAL support in a significant way.

Blogger Daniele Grech Pereira September 22, 2018 6:20 AM  

I knew it. Pedo-hunting comic. This is gonna be great to finally read in full.

Blogger Double E September 22, 2018 6:22 AM  

Morale matters. Greatly. So, what Q says matters greatly, as he is definitely a positive for remoralizing MAGA and the God-Emperor's Legions.

And if you're right, then WHAT he says actually matters very little - and THAT he says is what is important.

I am willing to accept that, but I am not yet convinced. I definitely don't think he is a negative, just mostly a 'preaching to the choir' type situation.

Blogger VD September 22, 2018 6:25 AM  

Is it your opinion that Q has actually increased total support for Trump and/or MAGA candidates? I'm not seeing it.

You're not paying attention to the rallies. Or the way in which his support is successfully shaking off the media's two-year full-court press against him.

Blogger Double E September 22, 2018 6:27 AM  

You're not paying attention to the rallies. Or the way in which his support is successfully shaking off the media's two-year full-court press against him.

He's been doing that since long before Q. I don't see any evidence that Q has brought new supporters into the fold

Blogger Mark Stoval September 22, 2018 6:29 AM  

@11

One data point.

A left-leaning teacher has been talking more conservative lately to my surprise. Last week she off hand said that she and her hubby are big fans of Q. I was flabbergasted.

Blogger Double E September 22, 2018 6:34 AM  

@14 that's interesting, and good. I haven't seen anything like that. From what I've seen most people into @ were already Trump supporters to some extent, and it just may have increased their fervor.

To what end, that remains to be seen, but it can't hurt I guess. If the Q influence is net positive even 1 single extra Trump supporter, than more power to him.

Blogger JC September 22, 2018 6:43 AM  

Has anyone ever asked Q about Christianity?

I'm as puzzled as everyone but I'm still more inclined to believe an Anon than the MSM.

Blogger God Emperor Memes September 22, 2018 6:44 AM  

"We're not alone"
Well, yeah...the Old Testament has made that clear for a long time.

Blogger Unknown September 22, 2018 6:52 AM  

Given how many world leaders, and US presidents in particular, have opined before the UN about how an alien threat would be the event that caused all mankind to set aside their differences and unite under one world leadership, I have wondered if an 'alien attack' was going to be the lie that sets Armageddon in motion. But coming from Q? Hrm.

I figured the space force thing was the first step in making public the fact that we have a substantially more robust presence in space than anyone outside black ops knew when it was announced. I wouldn't be distraught if it turned out that we're already Clan vs Inner Sphere out about Jupiter.

In any case, time will tell. The ride keeps getting better though. Maybe they really weren't kidding when they said there's too much going on behind the scenes for anyone to believe it all at once, even us.

Blogger Archella September 22, 2018 6:59 AM  

That Nevada rally tonight (last night), was Epic. Feeling pretty f'ing positive right now. My state, North Dakota, will definitely be plus 1 for the senate. Don't believe the lying polls. She will lose by 20 points. And full legalization will win by 20.

Blogger Gettimothy September 22, 2018 7:01 AM  

"Make Aliens Great Again"

Men in Black was a documentary.







Blogger Looking Glass September 22, 2018 7:01 AM  

As a practical matter, we're dealing with a Neo-Babylonian mystery religion that worships demons. "We are not alone" is actually standard Christian theology, otherwise you have to reject the existence of Heaven, Hell, the Abyss, angels & demons. So the Q team can be coy with things like that.

It's also possible that Q is referencing something. The oldest record, in Google Books, I can find is from "The Imperial Magazine" in 1828. (Subhead: "And, Monthly Record of Religious, Philosophical, Historical, Biographical, Topographical, and General Knowledge; Embracing Literature, Science, & Art") Considering how deep some of the cuts have been over this entire event, I wouldn't put it passed them.

Roswell is a little less interesting. It was something attached to a high altitude balloon. Best theory I've seen puts it as some nuclear-powered listening or monitoring device, though it's also possible they almost dropped the first Neutron Bomb on a small town in New Mexico. (If you're in the area, I do recommend the museum there. It's quite an interesting set of exhibits.) 1945 through about 1975 had a lot more "near misses" for the USA nuking its own citizens a lot more than people realize.

Blogger Double E September 22, 2018 7:03 AM  

@19 did you go?

I live in Vegas but figured I wouldn't bother taking a spot that somebody else could enjoy. I can't support GEOTUS any more than I do already, so no need to clog up the place for other people.

I got to go to one of his pre-election rallies in Ocala, FL when I lived in Gainesville.

Good stuff. The energy is palpable.

Blogger Steb September 22, 2018 7:05 AM  

Alien lore always claims that the aliens made contact with America and offered secret tech to its government.
I wonder how far China needs to visibly progress beyond western tech achievements before the story gets revised.
Do the Chinese have their own version of the Roswell story?

Blogger Rick September 22, 2018 7:25 AM  

Q’s answer to the “alien” question had just enough esoteric wiggle room to be interpreted either way or any way, practicaly.

“Are we alone?” His answer: you are not alone. He’s assured us before that we’re not alone (in this fight against the cabal/DS).

Even his answer “consider the vastness of space” does say yes or no to the Roswell question. It’s just a response.

Anyway, I can’t as yet reconcile the existence of space aliens with Christianity because we are, according to Christ, the point of it all. The center of the cosmos and the reason for it. In other words, there is no reason (that I can think of) to create aliens. Every other form of life on earth I can understand the need for.

Blogger Avalanche September 22, 2018 7:27 AM  

I posted a comment on Neon Revolt's Me We (I can't comment on his blog for some reason; has a loop connection URL thingie I domn't know how to deal with):

Whoof. These latest are hard to swallow! Here's my comment I sent around to friends... (I'm introducing them to Q and NeonR, carefully, gently, but a bit urgently!)

This following Q Q&A (this one: False, moon landings are real. Programs exist that are outside of public domain. Q) ... worries me.... Makes me (emotionally, not rationally) question the legitimacy of Q entirely! On the other hand -- all those folks (Pope!, astronaut, John Kerry, who else?!) streaming down to Antarctica and coming back chastened and worried? But then, I remember that Q-posts ALSO are "intended" for our enemies; and as the MSM gets more and more insane about the "Q conspiracy" -- perhaps throwing up sensationalist stupidity is for THEM, so THEY print stupid insanity to the public -- is the goal. (OR, we've been misled all these decades.... Also not surprising?)

If you're (if one is) a dyed-in-the-wool 9/11 investigator; and someone we're supposed to trust says "there WAS a plane at the Pentagon": you're gonna dig in like mad and do deep research on Q to prove Q wrong: AND a whole slew of new folks will begin looking into Q...

If you think 'secret space bases' is ... disconcerting (is it real or is it Memorex?!) ... and Q says it's true: you're going to enlist all your space-buddies to look into Q to prove his veracity or not... AND a whole slew of new folks will begin looking into Q... ({sigh} "understand the comms.")

And (writing of secret space bases), I have recently withdrawn (in my head) my complete rejection of Dr. Judy Wood in her claims about 9/11, WTC, and "directed energy weapons." NOT because she is persuasive (I cannot/will not EVER get over her blind stupidity about a charity asking people to donate replacements for "melting metal-toed workboots" at the WTC Pit "proving" the (surface) temps were "hot enough to melt steel" -- no, you stupid cow: the heat was melting the PLASTIC SOLES the steel-toes were embedded in. SHEESH!!!). I agreed with folks (scientists, engineers, etc. ) who discarded her because "energy weapons don't exist."

Then, in one edition of (a republished by Castalia House) Dr. Jerry Pournelle's "There Will Be War" series (half sci-fi / half essays about science, politics, space, and govt), Pournelle himself (whom people I DO trust say was a flat-out genius, deeply embedded in govt M-I-Complex) wrote -- in an essay back the 1970s? -- that there was some AMAZING work being done in directed energy weapons research and then the govt took the whole project black! If Dr. Pournelle says directed energy might exist -- I'm willing to consider that it might.

So, I'm willing to let this (and a couple other) Q-drops shake my trust in Q, but I also acknowledge that these "distasteful" drops could be either true {wince} or could be misdirection for our enemies and their MSM/govt'al attack dogs. But, as a way to "discredit" the whole QAnon world: space aliens, moon bases, and genetic manipulation would do it!

Blogger Avalanche September 22, 2018 7:29 AM  

@9 "Is it your opinion that Q has actually increased total support for Trump and/or MAGA candidates? I'm not seeing it."

If you could see it, what would it look like? How would you tell?

Blogger Avalanche September 22, 2018 7:32 AM  

@15 "I haven't seen anything like that. From what I've seen most people into @ were already Trump supporters to some extent, and it just may have increased their fervor."

Remember this: "How did Trump get elected -- NOBODY I KNOW voted for him?!" Said the NYTimes reporters.

Blogger EvaUnit02 September 22, 2018 7:34 AM  

Since you have a business relationship with Will Caligan, will you be fulfilling his crowdfunding campaign to publish Grimm #1?
https://www.gofundme.com/alphadogstudios

Also when can we expect the TPB omnibuses for Alt-Hero?

Thanks in advance.

Blogger Desert Screamer September 22, 2018 7:35 AM  

A bit OT,but For me,aliens=demons
So,maybe,Q thinks the same Way.And according to some theories/biblical interpretations,the Second Heaven that demons inhabit is the space.Maybe the NASA made contacto,after all there is a lot of weird shit going on with that guy Parsons and his "rocket science"

Blogger VD September 22, 2018 7:39 AM  

Since you have a business relationship with Will Caligan, will you be fulfilling his crowdfunding campaign to publish Grimm #1?

Possibly. Haven't looked at it yet.

Also when can we expect the TPB omnibuses for Alt-Hero?

The first one containing issues #1-6 should be in November.


Blogger Unknown September 22, 2018 7:48 AM  

Steb wrote:Alien lore always claims that the aliens made contact with America and offered secret tech to its government.

I wonder how far China needs to visibly progress beyond western tech achievements before the story gets revised.

Do the Chinese have their own version of the Roswell story?


We'd have to stop handing them all our patents and asking them to build our advanced tech without stealing the designs before that would be an issue.

Rick wrote:
Anyway, I can’t as yet reconcile the existence of space aliens with Christianity because we are, according to Christ, the point of it all. The center of the cosmos and the reason for it. In other words, there is no reason (that I can think of) to create aliens. Every other form of life on earth I can understand the need for.


There's lots of ways to reconcile it. One a lot of my personal circle thinks is that aliens are devils. They use swords and drive around flaming chariots and such in the Bible, it's not like they don't have the ability to use technology. And we know they are commensurate liars to boot. "Yes, we invented your world religions and engineered you in our labs so now it is time for the Age of Aquarius" would easily be an appropriate lie for the modern 'rationalist' age.

It's also possible that there are lots of worlds out there with intelligent life, and the Lord did not see fit to bring it up because it's not relevant to us and our relationship with Him.

There's also Chuck Missler's nephilim to consider. He makes a convincing case that the days of Noah were marked by the absolute evil in all men, to the point that they were interbreeding with angels, and destroying their bloodline was the point of the flood (God said 'Noah was a just man and perfect in his generations', which is a very peculiar phrasing right after talking about the angels taking wives and producing nephilim, or giants in most bibles). When Jesus said 'But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be', he is referring to the return of the nephilim, the half-breeds of angels and men, according to Missler.

They are all an interesting dive, if you have the time.

Blogger elad sputnik September 22, 2018 7:59 AM  

Well, as annoying as the Ayy lmao crowd is, they are a battle hardened online army that can throw down with the best.
So the choice seems clear to me, throw them a bone and get them on side or blow them off to please a handful of people who don't get it, don't want to get it, and who will be thundering off with the rest of the herd in short order with their goldfish tier attention spans.

Personally I don't think about E.T. that much.

Blogger Rick September 22, 2018 8:06 AM  

Steam — thank you. the possible interpretations you offer may satisfy you, but they don’t satisfy me. I have no problem at all with the hierarchy of beings between man and God. Angels and so forth. They seem reasonable and necessary. I think you are missing my point (which is not my point, but God’s) that man is the center of the cosmos and frankly the point of it.
I am a fan of alien lore and myth. I grew up in the 70’s when the phenomenon seemed to have a resurgence. It was a wonderful time to be 13. Still a fan.
Also a fan of evolution — which seems not at all in conflict with Christianity. Though it almost seems that 14 billion years is not long enough. Add MORE advanced species than ours to the equation and that only adds more doubt.
I’m open to the possibility, but in my view it practically calls Christ a liar. Either we are the point of it all, or we are not.
But of course, if they land, I’m onboard (so to speak :)

Blogger Dirk Manly September 22, 2018 8:08 AM  

@14

"A left-leaning teacher has been talking more conservative lately to my surprise. Last week she off hand said that she and her hubby are big fans of Q. I was flabbergasted."

Your typical working class Democrat is a Democrat because he/she has long felt that the game was rigged against normal people, and Q speaks to that.

The average working-class Democrat (including K-12 teachers) is absolutely positive that ALL of the rich scoundrels who game the system against "the little guy" are Republicans, and ONLY Republicans. Q is disabusing them of that notion that only Republicans can be power-craving assholed.

Blogger Red Bane September 22, 2018 8:09 AM  

Sounds like they are ready to role out operation Blue-Beam. It will be interesting to see what a 2018 version of Well's War Of The Worlds looks like

Blogger Mr.MantraMan September 22, 2018 8:12 AM  

I always thought Roswell was about the American V-2 launches which probably went less well than the German ones. Weather balloons big whoop, beat the commies to the punch big secret stuff.

I admit I have seen a UFO maybe 2, but only because I could not technically put a full description to what I actually witnessed.

Blogger Rick September 22, 2018 8:17 AM  

One other thing that I thought was kind of funny in a haha way. When the anon asked the questions, there were I think 3 questions. I think this is a universal experience with emailing questions. You ask someone 3 questions in an email and the person answers the 3rd one only.
In the exchange with Q, he may have just been responding to the last question, which if I recall, wasn’t even a sentence, but a “one word question”: “Roswell?”

That question could mean anything, such as, “are you a fan of the Roswell story?”

Anyway, Q’s response was “No.” But was he responding the the first of the 3 questions or the last question which everyone interpreted as “Is the Roswell story true?”

He was response was “No.”

I’m not saying that’s the interpretation, only that we can’t be certain either way.
People definitely saw what they wanted to.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan September 22, 2018 8:28 AM  

There is also the solar observatory conspiracy theories running rampant, Blackhawk chopper, child porn, evacuations from the area and all that that even piques Tucker's curiousity.

Blogger Salt September 22, 2018 8:36 AM  

We’re building a #SpaceForce, anon.

I'm not so sure we're building one as, years ago, in conversation with an old time Dread Ilk, he intimated we already did, even if, at minimum, in its early stages of development.

Blogger pyrrhus September 22, 2018 8:45 AM  

There is plenty of evidence for the existence of aliens on the planet, including sightings, insider testimony and documents about reverse engineering some of their technology. It can't all be disinformation.

Blogger Rick September 22, 2018 8:58 AM  

You mean “evidence”.
I prefer personal experience. One made up story or a million made up stories have the same value = 0.
That’s not to say they’re all made up. That’s just a comment on the value of relying on quantity in this assessment.

Blogger The Kurgan September 22, 2018 8:58 AM  

Are you the higher paid shill?

Blogger Lazarus September 22, 2018 9:01 AM  

They have to go back.

Blogger Unknown September 22, 2018 9:02 AM  

Rick wrote:I think you are missing my point (which is not my point, but God’s) that man is the center of the cosmos and frankly the point of it.

I've always looked at it the same way as God describes the creation in Genesis. "And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also." The sun is a star, and the moon merely reflects the sun, but they both get special mention because of how they dominate our world. He covers the entire process of making the uncountable number of galaxies in 'He made the stars also'. We can't even see most of the stars in 'also'. They serve a purpose, whether we see them or not, but God doesn't spend a lot of words explaining them because while they may be necessary for His ends, they don't matter to us from here.

However, like a small child trying to puzzle out the strange things he sees out the car window on a long drive, we strive to understand anyway. Maybe that's what they are actually for, to give us something to marvel at. It certainly puts the entire rest of the Bible into perspective when considering how much of the universe God considers 'also'.

That said, it's also important to remember that devils are genuinely powerful, able to work things that are miraculous to us, and devoted to leading as much of humanity into hell with them as possible. They pretended to be gods in the past to do so. Pretending to be aliens and 'sharing technology' with us is not beyond the pale. We know they have technology, as they drive flaming chariots and wield flaming swords and such in the Bible. If that lie, and it's accompanying lights-in-the-sky routine, could convince the world that Jesus was merely a space alien not too far above us and that miracles are all technical trickery anyone can do, I doubt they would hesitate.

Ultimately, whether 'aliens' are devils, actual otherworldy mortal creatures, or swamp gas reflecting off Venus and mass hallucination, our job is to remain fixed on God. The speculation on what's really going on and how it all fits together is enjoyable though.

Blogger The Kurgan September 22, 2018 9:03 AM  

You’re a shill. I’ve seen your type since the early 90s. Your game here is tobseed doubt while being “reasonable”.

Anyone that has looked at it at all knows Q matters. Greatly. And makes a difference. So a pox on you and your attempts at sowing doubt.
Your kind only has one use. Sandbags.

Blogger Rick September 22, 2018 9:05 AM  

“The speculation on what's really going on and how it all fits together is enjoyable though.“

Absolutely. It expands one’s mind.

Blogger The Kurgan September 22, 2018 9:07 AM  

What people forget is that Werner Von Braun explicitly predicted that the future would involve terrorist nations, then meteorite threats and finally “alien attack”.
So far we’re on track.
The Nazis didn’t really lose the war. They just changed the way it was fought.

Read the book the face on mars. Or pretty much any of the books written by Joseph Farrell concerning the Nazi regime after the supposed end of the war.

Blogger James Dixon September 22, 2018 9:08 AM  

> I'm not so sure we're building one as, years ago, in conversation with an old time Dread Ilk, he intimated we already did, even if, at minimum, in its early stages of development.

The military doesn't tend to reveal new tech to the public until it's been well tested.

Blogger James Dixon September 22, 2018 9:13 AM  

> I think you are missing my point (which is not my point, but God’s) that man is the center of the cosmos and frankly the point of it.

So God can't conduct multiple experiments in the same lab? I don't think I would try to limit him that way.

Blogger James Dixon September 22, 2018 9:15 AM  

But yes, my reaction to that drop was pretty much, "WTF? Is he just playing with us now?" But then I remembered the disinformation aspects Q has mentioned too.

Blogger Dave September 22, 2018 9:24 AM  

Might I suggest throwing these Alt★Hero:Q pages up on the campaign page and sending out an update. There might be people who don't frequent this blog that have been on the fence over the campaign and could use a little nudge.

I've also received notice of updates from Jon D.'s campaign by email; apparently Indiegogo has that option to update all backers. Some backers might appreciate the reminder the campaign is winding down if they were still considering another perk or two.

Blogger urthshu September 22, 2018 9:30 AM  

I am not a theologian nor well versed in this area, but is it possible that life is the point of creation in the general sense with Mankind being a particular instance? Does that accommodate the existence of aliens while preserving Christ's truthfulness?

Blogger Krymneth September 22, 2018 9:33 AM  

JC wrote:Has anyone ever asked Q about Christianity?

Q has repeatedly quoted the Bible at length and requested prayer. There's no "Yes, everybody, Jesus is real and you need him as your personal savior" I'm aware of, but otherwise Q is certainly not hostile to Christianity.

Blogger wreckage September 22, 2018 9:36 AM  

He doesn't confirm anything. I'd love a good, solid reason to totally dismiss or totally accept Q; but this question he just doesn't answer, except in a "golly space is just so big when you think about it" non-answer kind of way.

Meanwhile the Pentagon answer shows he's not just serving up confirmation of every single "hidden reality" conspiracy theory.

Frustrating.

Blogger Rick September 22, 2018 9:36 AM  

It’s not that God CAN’T experiment. It’s just that experiment and God do not go together.
Think of it this way, He knew what he was doing. This is different than predetermination. More like, I will make Man the center of the cosmos and point of it. Not, I wonder if I can do this?

Blogger wreckage September 22, 2018 9:38 AM  

Humanity was absolutely the entire point of Christ's mission. I don't see how that changes if there are aliens. The story of God, Christ, and Us is self-contained, but with salvation, that story might be, to God's mind, complete or at least fully-become, and now we're ready to see that there are other stories as well.

Blogger wreckage September 22, 2018 9:47 AM  

(Personally I think if there are aliens we will never meet them. Speed of light limitations pretty much rule it out. But if we did, well, I don't see how it's an issue.)

Blogger VD September 22, 2018 9:50 AM  

Might I suggest throwing these Alt★Hero:Q pages up on the campaign page and sending out an update. There might be people who don't frequent this blog that have been on the fence over the campaign and could use a little nudge.

I will later today. We wanted to give BIC the exclusive yesterday, but it's off the front page now.

Blogger James Dixon September 22, 2018 9:50 AM  

> ...but is it possible that life is the point of creation in the general sense with Mankind being a particular instance?

Possible? Yes. But as with many things, the answer is a simple "We don't know."

> It’s not that God CAN’T experiment. It’s just that experiment and God do not go together.

Seriously? I've been know to be about as aspie as a functional person can be, and even I understand the usage of a simple metaphor when it's in front of me.

Blogger James Dixon September 22, 2018 9:53 AM  

> We wanted to give BIC the exclusive yesterday,

It's actions like this that demonstrate why people like working with Vox. I'm sure BIC appreciates it.

Blogger Andrew September 22, 2018 10:00 AM  

There are creatures and experiments of the Fallen Angels from the days of Noah still hanging around, even with some of the advanced technology the Fallen provided. Strange enough stuff we'd call aliens. Whether Q was referring to any of this or not matters not.

Q is still on track.

Blogger VD September 22, 2018 10:05 AM  

Cover and five pages up on the campaign now. Thanks for the reminder.

Blogger Krymneth September 22, 2018 10:17 AM  

As a Christian, the only thing that would actually require me to rewrite my view of the universe would be if we encounter an alien race, and they provably have never heard of the God of the Bible.

While I'm open aliens on Earth, I'm yet to hear a story that makes sense. "There's these aliens so far beyond us that they casually cross the void of space in FTL space craft. But once they get here, they can't help but crash into mountains like a first-time pilot." That's a Far Side cartoon, not an alien race.

Other evidences don't add up either. I see no gaps in the history of science requiring alien explanations. For example, anyone claiming "microwaves" in particular as an alien tech loses me right away... when you get down to it, microwaves are basically a particular color of light. QM is also less mysterious than it seems; rather than being a huge pile of confusing, most of the confusing can be isolated down to one particular element. Mind you, it's still confusing, it's just not a huge pile of confusing, but rather a couple of confusing elements.

They're also just soooo tied into 1950s ideas of technology and the universe... from what I see of the true limits of technology, if the aliens want to secretly survey humanity, they would just do it, and not a single human would ever know. If they experimented on people but "wiped their memories", they would succeed. If they wanted to take over Earth, they just would. If there are aliens out there that are even merely hundreds of years ahead of us, between the "little grey men" and post-Singularity sci-fi, the latter is almost certainly closer to the truth.

All that said, I'm also increasingly convinced that there is more strangeness going on than I would have expected ten years ago. Q is a non-trivial part of that. I had for a long time thought the references to Babylon in Revelation were metaphorical, but now it seems increasingly like it's literal, the Babylon religion alive and well with new clothes. So it's not like I'm "stuck" in "what I see is what there is and that's all there is and nothing else can be". I just still don't see where the traditional "alien" stories fit in and add to any explanation. By contrast, Q and an alive-and-well Babylonian mystery cult actually makes sense to me, and can be used to more correctly predict the future course of events. I don't see anything aliens help me understand better.

Blogger Dave September 22, 2018 10:19 AM  

We wanted to give BIC the exclusive yesterday

Certainly.

Ok, email update notice, rec'd

Blogger Rick September 22, 2018 10:20 AM  

I understood the metaphor perfectly.
The fact that you don’t understand me, doesn’t make me an aspie. Whatever that is.

Try it this way. We need to know what we mean when we say God. Some find it easier to state what God is not. Say, for example, is God a murderer? Obviously no. Why not? (because God is what He is perfectly.) In other words, He does not fail at who he is.
Whether there is a God or not is a separate issue. We’re talking about what is God knowing what it takes to be God, so to speak. Definitionally. Also, a common but understandable error in perspective is to think things like: God is like a scientist which is true (I believe) but false if we equate them. It’s better or more proper to think, scientists are like God. But God is much more than “scientist”. Same for, the cosmos is like a computer. More like the other way around.
To say experimentation, is (I believe) to ask, is God a guesser? That is different than asking, is God creative.
Universe and cosmos are different things. There cannot be other cosmoses or other universes by definition.

Blogger tz September 22, 2018 10:20 AM  

Typo:
In Alt-Hero 4, when CandLe gets hit with the bottle the text balloon says "CandIe".

Blogger Johnny September 22, 2018 10:23 AM  

In the early post WWII period the gov would look into reports of flying saucers and made everything about them top secret. That is the real background for the Roswell stuff. An excited public imagination with a complete lack of information.

I have a fondness for the idea that human life or life in general was created by an alien power. I don't know, spores from outer space or something. But lacking evidence there is no place to go with it.

As for space alien talk, that is an area loaded down with self evident bunk. The stuff with a little credibility gets associated with the total bunk stuff too much for any real credibility. Earth to Q: Quit talking about it, it only damages your credibility.

Blogger Scott September 22, 2018 10:25 AM  

Icke warned about 10 years ago that govts would manufacture or even deploy an 'extraterrestrial threat' to advance the globalist agenda. This is interesting in the light of what some among the tinfoil brigade have been saying.

Blogger VD September 22, 2018 10:26 AM  

In Alt-Hero 4, when CandLe gets hit with the bottle the text balloon says "CandIe".

Not a typo. Her superhero name is CANDLE. Her nickname is CANDIE.

Blogger VD September 22, 2018 10:27 AM  

Quit talking about it, it only damages your credibility.

No one gives a damn about "credibility", Johnny. I've been hearing that non-argument for 17 years myself.

Blogger Damelon Brinn September 22, 2018 10:54 AM  

In the context of Q-type discussions, the important thing about "aliens" is that the US government has been classifying all sorts of stuff under that heading for years, leaving the are-they-aren't-they question open and using that question to justify gray-budget spending on anything they didn't want public. It's a perfect example of how they lie to us while fleecing us, and that's true whether they're hiding the existence of aliens or being coy with the opposite facts. It shows they do have the ability to operate a large conspiracy that keeps the truth of something in question for decades.

Blogger Jamie-R September 22, 2018 10:59 AM  

Odds are no contact physically. But algorithms might have deciphered something from signals billions of years away. It's like cracking military communication, they may have something from it.

Blogger Cylinder September 22, 2018 11:15 AM  

UFOs are real, and I don't mean that in the pedantic sense. I mean actual non-human operated vehicles are real. My great grandfather was in the Navy during and after WW2 and he was in a flotilla that observed a cylinder floating over the Pacific off Baja California back in the early 50s. They observed it and took footage of it for 3 days before it silently shot directly upward into the sky and out of view.

My friend's great grandmother was lifted into the air by a UFO back in the 40's and her daughter witnessed it happen. Her brother worked for NASA and eventually Lockheed and he outright told her these craft are real. I'd give names but I don't think it would be wise to do so online. I know people might have difficulty fitting this into their conceptual model of reality but I've often wondered if the dragon pulling 1/3 of the stars of heaven into his rebellion isn't literal. Just because earth is under his control doesn't means it's the only thing under his power. It's possible people are thinking too small.

Blogger Robert September 22, 2018 11:24 AM  

How could we ever prove that no other intelligent life exists in the Universe? Black swan impossible.

We could search for millions of years and still be unsure.

But wouldn't that be the greatest miracle? That we are the first and only men?

Blogger James Dixon September 22, 2018 11:51 AM  

> I understood the metaphor perfectly.

Then why did you take it as a literal argument in your reply?

> The fact that you don’t understand me, doesn’t make me an aspie. Whatever that is.

The fact that you responded as you did makes it relatively likely. https://infogalactic.com/info/Asperger_syndrome

> Try it this way.

Speaking of not understanding people. Sorry, but I've been through all of that 40 years ago.

Blogger Lance E September 22, 2018 12:12 PM  

I believe we've just witnessed the Q equivalent of a "slow news day".

Blogger Azure Amaranthine September 22, 2018 12:37 PM  

"Alien" is the science cultist word for "supernatural entity".

Anonymous Anonymous September 22, 2018 12:43 PM  

Look at the prophesied return of Christ from the swamp's perspective. Victorious return of savior? No. Alien invasion, total warfare, complete subjugation and establishment of global control. We would view a hostile invasion the same way, so it depends on the filter of your spiritual lens. If you know it's coming, and they do, build a space force, unite one world govt, and fight. Pretty much revelations in a nut shell. Just look at it in reverse.

Blogger Desert Screamer September 22, 2018 12:49 PM  

Forma anybody interested in the topic of aliens from a Christian POV this may be helpful
http://www.alienresistance.org

Blogger SirHamster September 22, 2018 1:02 PM  

Angels and demons make the answer to "we alone?" automatically no.

There's an interesting theory that evidence of aliens actually reflects spiritual beings and dimensions, rather than cross-galaxy life.

Not to mention God.

Blogger Nostromo September 22, 2018 1:12 PM  

I think beyond proselytizing MAGA, Q is teaching a growing audience to not believe any politician when their pie hole opens. That trait is the characteristic I find most distasteful about liberals, their sheer willingness to felate any politician who vomits their pet talking point. Calling them useful idiots does a disservice to idiots everywhere. Mixing metaphors, they don't just beat dead horses, they blow them.

Blogger Jack Amok September 22, 2018 1:23 PM  

Morale matters. Greatly. So, what Q says matters greatly, as he is definitely a positive for remoralizing MAGA and the God-Emperor's Legions.

Which Alynski rule is it to make it fun for your people? We have a century of experience that talking about aliens is fun.

So God can't conduct multiple experiments in the same lab? I don't think I would try to limit him that way.

Is telling God how He can or cannot do something the ultimate Gamma tell?

Blogger Roddie Piper September 22, 2018 1:24 PM  

The Universe is indeed vast, but we can only see a tiny bubble of it extending 13.8 billion light-years in every direction. It gets worse: The expansion of the Universe is accelerating because gravity becomes repulsive beyond about 1 billion light-years, so most of the galaxies we can see now are already inaccessible to us, that is, a radio message sent today could never catch up to them. Moving through space faster than light is impossible, but the total expansion of space between us and a very distant object can exceed the speed of light.

So there might be a quadrillion other sentient life forms in the Universe, but if none are within our local group of galaxies, we are in fact alone.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash September 22, 2018 1:24 PM  

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Blogger Snidely Whiplash September 22, 2018 1:25 PM  

Robert wrote:But wouldn't that be the greatest miracle? That we are the first and only men?
No. not at all.
How many unique events are there in the Universe? A billion? A trillion? a near-infinite number? It's a BIG place, as many keep pointing out. Given that something as limited as a DNA strand can be completely unique to a single person, and often is, why would not the mere existence of DNA also be unique. We have no idea of how it even formed in the first place.
It's entirely possible, and I believe likely, that the creation of life was a completely unique event in the cosmos. And that reasoning is just as thorough, and just as well supported by the evidence, and the idea that life is omnipresent.

Blogger Dirk Manly September 22, 2018 1:43 PM  

@48

"The military doesn't tend to reveal new tech to the public until it's been well tested."

The military doesn't tend to reveal new tech to the public until it's been used in combat enough that the enemy knows its general capabilities, and something of how it works.

Blogger Were-Puppy September 22, 2018 1:45 PM  

@19 Archella
That Nevada rally tonight (last night), was Epic.
--

I watched a recent Las Vegas rally. It was nice to see all those beaming happy faces in the crowd.

When was the last time you saw anybody smiling at a lefty protest or rally?

Blogger Were-Puppy September 22, 2018 1:58 PM  

I find it amusing that NR will offhand dismiss Q drops without researching them.



Blogger Dirk Manly September 22, 2018 2:31 PM  

@67

"I have a fondness for the idea that human life or life in general was created by an alien power. I don't know, spores from outer space or something. But lacking evidence there is no place to go with it. "

This doesn't solve the problem of the origin of life -- it just moves the question to a different locale. Therefore, it's not really an answer.

Blogger Test 1 2 3 September 22, 2018 2:45 PM  

We have lying polls in Canada too,

The Liberal Left Globalist Elitist need to be unplugged forever from any form of power over anyone else ever.

WWG1WGA

Canada’s version The new PeoplesPC


The left in Canada are going to be obliterated

Blogger Franz Lionheart September 22, 2018 3:54 PM  

They have to go back.

Top kek! Thread winner!

Anonymous Anonymous September 22, 2018 4:27 PM  

Made me laugh too

Blogger Test 1 2 3 September 22, 2018 4:39 PM  

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Blogger Test 1 2 3 September 22, 2018 4:40 PM  

Equinox

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5s2k4WYQ6co&time_continue=130

Blogger Test 1 2 3 September 22, 2018 4:42 PM  

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Blogger Test 1 2 3 September 22, 2018 4:44 PM  

https://m.youtube.com/results?search_query=%23PeoplesNetwork

Blogger Ariadne Umbrella September 22, 2018 5:32 PM  

Why would aliens be so distressing to a Christian? We've already run this movie before: Columbus found an entire continent filled with people indifferent to Eurasian claims about a savior. They didn't think they needed saving from cannibalism, slavery or torture.

Blogger michimartini September 22, 2018 5:50 PM  

Exactly. And they will - if rebuked in the name of Jesus. See: stopalienabductions.com

Blogger The Kurgan September 22, 2018 6:15 PM  

+1
People DO always think too small.
It’s related to MPAI

Blogger Stilicho September 22, 2018 6:16 PM  

Mulder is Q. Scully has always been deep state.

Blogger Robert What? September 22, 2018 7:45 PM  

I agree with @Double E: if this Q report about aliens is really from Q then it blows the Q story and mystique completely out of the water. As a Christian I have no doubt that we are the only intelligent life in the universe. Possibly the only life of any kind.

Blogger Jack Amok September 22, 2018 9:29 PM  

They have to go back.

Top kek! Thread winner!


You planetist bigots. C'Ra may have been been born a single-celled amoeba-like life form on the seventh moon of Zeta Reticuli 3, but she... er, he... really it (they reproduce through asexual cell division) is just as American as you or I.

Blogger wreckage September 23, 2018 2:02 AM  

@102, thread runner-up.

Blogger SciVo September 23, 2018 5:34 AM  

Galactus was born American on Taa, and if you want to exclude the poor starving migrant then you're a RAAAAACIST who wants to put blacks in chains.

Blogger Didas Kalos September 23, 2018 2:41 PM  

This is maybe the most plausible explanation of the Q statement

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