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Tuesday, October 23, 2018

Then they came for YouTube

And there was no one to defend it from the censors, because YouTube had already censored or suppressed everyone with the inclination to fight.
YouTube’s CEO has urged creators on the popular video site to organize against a proposed EU internet regulation, reinforcing fears that the infamous Article 13 could lead to content-killing, meme-maiming restrictions on the web.

The proposed amendments to the EU Copyright Directive would require the automatic removal of any user-created content suspected of violating intellectual property law – with platforms being liable for any alleged copyright infringement. If enacted, the legislation would threaten “both your livelihood and your ability to share your voice with the world,” YouTube CEO Susan Wojcicki warned the site’s content creators in a blog post on Monday.

The regulation would endanger “hundreds of thousands of job,” Wojcicki said, predicting that it would likely force platforms such as YouTube to allow only content from a hand-picked group of companies.
This is genuinely amusing. YouTube hasn't shut down my account, but they have suppressed and demonetized some of my videos. What a pity that they can't rely upon Alex Jones, Paul Joseph Watson, or anyone on InfoWars, none of whom are fans of the European Union, to defend them....

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52 Comments:

Blogger VFM #7191 October 23, 2018 11:15 AM  

Too bad, so sad.

YouTube has started heavily moderating livestream chat, and streamers can't do anything about it. Now if you send a Superchat and YouTube deems your message "inappropriate," they'll take your entire donation instead of their usual 30% cut and give it to charity.

So yeah, cry me a river, YouTube. Have fun with the EU. The rest of us aren't going to shed a tear.

Blogger Looking Glass October 23, 2018 11:15 AM  

John DeLorean, at the height of his cocaine benders, was a better executive than Wojcicki ever will be. May YouTube reap everything she has sown, because it's just so funny.

Blogger Daniel Paul Grech Pereira October 23, 2018 11:17 AM  

More reasons to use Bitchute.

Blogger Purge187 October 23, 2018 11:17 AM  

I figured she'd be the first person to get on board with something like this.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother October 23, 2018 11:18 AM  

Hoisted, petard

Blogger Looking Glass October 23, 2018 11:22 AM  

Purge187 wrote:I figured she'd be the first person to get on board with something like this.

The EU doesn't like Google. Their segment of the Cabal doesn't control them, so there's a clear level specific animus. Not that it isn't justified, but it's been noticeable for a while.

Blogger Zaklog the Great October 23, 2018 11:23 AM  

More reasons to use Bitchute.

While it is amusing to see YouTube all upset about the dangers of censorship, this will not stop with them. Bitchute and every other social media site you enjoy are in the firing line as well. This could completely wreck anarchic internet culture.

Blogger Taignobias October 23, 2018 11:23 AM  

It's all about power with these guys. They love doing unto others, but when others do unto them...

The EU directive will affect the world in the same way evil coastal nutjobs affect all US citizens. It's abhorrent and should be fought. But watching the big conglomerates die would be popcorn-worthy.

Blogger Tom October 23, 2018 11:28 AM  

Hahahahahahahahaha
*gasp*
hahahahahahaha

Blogger Warunicorn October 23, 2018 11:32 AM  

Memo to Susan: Go f*ck yourself with a rusty fork. Made your bed, now sleep in it, you sperm-guzzling whore.

(Yeah. I'm having a day.)

Blogger pyrrhus October 23, 2018 11:34 AM  

Youtube won't even allow background music now unless you can prove it's public domain, that's what I have been advised. This copyright stuff has gotten completely out of hand.

Blogger Yordan Yordanov October 23, 2018 11:44 AM  

And all this meddling from the EU, has made the EU the worst place to do commercial internet things on the planet.

Blogger JAG October 23, 2018 11:44 AM  

Stg58/Animal Mother wrote:Hoisted, petard

Hoisted, libtard.

It takes a special kind of stupid to be a leftist these days. Own goal kind of stupid. See Fauxcahontas.

Blogger JAG October 23, 2018 11:46 AM  

Just build a firewall around the EU and let the rest of the world continue on as normal. They get nothing, and the rest of us keep our internet as bad as it is.

Blogger pyrrhus October 23, 2018 11:49 AM  

The EU has always been retarded about commerce, but they continue to surpass themselves...This is why it's Brexit or die for the UKtards...The EU will eventually shut down London's financial industry, leaving the diverse goat-lovers without a source of tax subsidies....

Blogger pyrrhus October 23, 2018 11:51 AM  

@13 It does seem that Leftist control freaks pretty much do things at random, and then are surprised by the results.

Blogger Daniel Babylon October 23, 2018 11:54 AM  

VFM #7191 wrote:Now if you send a Superchat and YouTube deems your message "inappropriate," they'll take your entire donation instead of their usual 30% cut and give it to charity.
And that's not theft? You are not donating to a streamer, not Youtube.

Blogger VFM #7191 October 23, 2018 11:55 AM  

Zaklog the Great wrote:This could completely wreck anarchic internet culture.

You mean, if this goes through "NPC" accounts on Twitter will be banned?

Oh, wait. That's already happening. "We have to do something so that the freedom of speech we already don't have doesn't get taken away!"

Blogger Noah B The Savage Gardener October 23, 2018 11:58 AM  

The demise of the social media giants will accelerate the rise of alternatives that are willing to ignore EU diktats.

Blogger Cecil Henry October 23, 2018 12:00 PM  

Can't have that evil identity politics influencing everything now can we Jordan Peterson??


World Jewish Congress CEO Wants Internet Censorship


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHGyfVkN_qs

Blogger Cecil Henry October 23, 2018 12:03 PM  

@14: There already is a large firewall around the German internet.

They heavily monitor incoming and outgoing streams in the country and come to your house if you see the wrong thing.

Britian's not far behind. Who won the war again?

Blogger Lance E October 23, 2018 12:48 PM  

VFM #7191 wrote:Now if you send a Superchat and YouTube deems your message "inappropriate," they'll take your entire donation instead of their usual 30% cut and give it to charity.

You mean, give it to a globalist NGO. That money's not going to any church.

It really is baffling to me how Google and especially YouTube insist on cozying up to the EU when the EU has repeatedly demonstrated that it hates them and just wants to take their money and order them around. But then again, it's not that much different from the relationship between any self-described liberal and the SJWs they appease.

Blogger CarpeOro October 23, 2018 1:01 PM  

Sucks to find yourself outside the circle of trust, Google?

Blogger Doktor Jeep October 23, 2018 1:05 PM  

The long term goal is to use DRM and copyright laws as a means of sealing Europe of from the rest of the world. Can't have America being great again and setting an example that it can be done.

Blogger steb October 23, 2018 1:18 PM  

YouTube has had this coming for a long time. It's stuffed full of clip compilations from TV shows and films. They're not memes or commentary, just piracy. And they don't seem anything like as keen on policing that as they do on policing free expression.

They're probably correct that the unintended consequences will be catastrophic for small content creators, but hopefully that in turn will help the teens wake up to what the EU really is, compared to how they've been taught to see it as.

During the first Brexit vote, I always thought Vote Leave were missing a trick by not creating ads comparing the US and UK versions of Netflix, and offering to negotiate some kind of media free trade deal once we left the EU. If they could do the same thing with YouTube then they'd win the second referendum by a landslide.

Blogger Dirk Manly October 23, 2018 1:23 PM  

@25
"It's stuffed full of clip compilations from TV shows and films"

So what? That falls under fair-use doctrine.

Blogger eclecticme October 23, 2018 1:44 PM  

"11. pyrrhus October 23, 2018 11:34 AM
Youtube won't even allow background music now unless you can prove it's public domain, that's what I have been advised. This copyright stuff has gotten completely out of hand."

Like 1970s VHS porn. Ha!

Blogger InformationMerchant October 23, 2018 1:50 PM  

Youtube with its comment censorship and superchat theft is killing the one thing it does that popular alternative sites don't, livestreams. Superchats even transfer money to Youtube, they can be funded by right wingers that hate them.

The EU link and copyright articles are unenforceable absolutely, so will be enforced selectively. The internet wouldn't be recognizable in Europe if they were actually enforced.


@14 Some sites do that. The EU privacy policy change means there are a bunch of websites that won't let anyone with EU IPs view them. Their problem is they automatically lose any EU customer they would've had.

The link and copyright articles would add a bunch of red tape to any NA and EU interaction. If all websites do just shut EU people out, anyone in the EU would be better off just using a non EU IP, I don't know what happens to EU websites in that case though.

Blogger InformationMerchant October 23, 2018 1:53 PM  

@26 Yeah, the EU is getting rid of fair use doctrine. They take priority over national laws. They voted against all amendments that might keep fair use a thing.

Blogger Resident Moron™ October 23, 2018 1:53 PM  

YouTube (((Google))) are not only now just figuring out that the EU are a bunch of censorious arses.

They're just now figuring out that the EU are a bunch of uncontrolled (by (((the right people))) ) censorious arses with the power to seriously damage YouTube's revenue streams ...

Blogger Lance E October 23, 2018 1:56 PM  

steb wrote:During the first Brexit vote, I always thought Vote Leave were missing a trick by not creating ads comparing the US and UK versions of Netflix, and offering to negotiate some kind of media free trade deal once we left the EU. If they could do the same thing with YouTube then they'd win the second referendum by a landslide.

What "second referendum?" And you're assuming that the same Islamist government that is physically rounding up and arresting native Anglos for shitposting or (heaven forbid) laying down bacon sandwiches has any interest in promoting free expression in the UK.

Blogger Don't Call Me Len October 23, 2018 2:14 PM  

It'll be schadenfreudig fun for everyone to see that the Social Justice Warriors Susy thought were on her side can't stomach a fight with someone with real power, and all her alleged 'allies' will do the best impression of "rats from a sinking ship" you'll ever witness.

Blogger Steb October 23, 2018 2:24 PM  

"So what? That falls under fair-use doctrine."
Fair use is transformative. Cutting out the best bits and pasting them together doesn't count. You need to turn it into something else.

"What "second referendum?" "
A lot of people are in favour of it, but I just meant if it happened.

Blogger Winterborn1337 October 23, 2018 2:43 PM  

Forgive my ignorance, but how would the EU enforce this against an American corporation?

Blogger steb October 23, 2018 2:57 PM  

Winterborn1337 wrote:Forgive my ignorance, but how would the EU enforce this against an American corporation?

They can enforce it if YouTube is available in the EU. They've already got serious restrictions on which US papers are available. In practise, YouTube will just block 99% of content from being shown in the EU, but it will still be available in the US.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash October 23, 2018 2:58 PM  

Winterborn1337 wrote:how would the EU enforce this against an American corporation?
There are no longer any "American Corporations."

Blogger electricsheeple October 23, 2018 3:52 PM  

You can't really call it YOUtube anymore if, after the legislation is passed, only a handful of companies can upload videos.

I hope the EU Legislation passes so another website with morals and balls can rise up in its place.

Blogger Dirk Manly October 23, 2018 4:21 PM  



>> "So what? That falls under fair-use doctrine."
> Fair use is transformative. Cutting out the best bits and pasting them together doesn't count. You need to turn it into something else.

Wrong. Fair Use also includes news, criticism, commentary, discussion, and illustrating examples.

Blogger electricsheeple October 23, 2018 4:34 PM  

@38 and education and trolling.

Blogger seeingsights October 23, 2018 4:39 PM  

The Fortean Times recently announced that they are shutting down their online forum, because of EU regulations.

The editors and main writers at The Fortean Times, a British publication about anomalous phenomenon, have been pro EU, anti Brexit.

I hope this causes The Fortean Times to convert to the anti EU side. It's possible. The writer of the novel Transpotting recently announced he converted to hard Brexit.

Blogger seeingsights October 23, 2018 4:43 PM  

Yes there are restriction on the availability of US publications. A co worker recently was in the Republic of Georgia, and the Chicago Tribune was not available online.
Georgia is not part of the EU, but they want to be, and thus want to show that they will follow EU regulations.

Blogger Wolfman at Large October 23, 2018 5:23 PM  

Say did youtube ever get around to deleted those TENS of THOUSANDS of pedophile grooming videos aimed at toddlers? Many of them featuring Disney owned characters?

Nope! Doesn't look like it.

Blogger Wolfman at Large October 23, 2018 5:29 PM  

Here's a channel that done a lot of work highlighting the problem.

Haven't looked too deeply into it since the story broke but there still seems to be quite a lot of these sort of video still up.

Most monetized and some with millions of views.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfhErut2-j8

Blogger InformationMerchant October 23, 2018 5:51 PM  

Oh and speaking of Youtube. This has been discussed elsewhere, but the related videos on the Youtube Darkstreams are bizarre.

It looks like some sloppy form of shadowban. I don't think it works both ways. I'm not sure cartoons will autoplay Vox afterwards.

Blogger CYGNUS FACETIOUS October 23, 2018 5:58 PM  

Looking Glass wrote:The EU doesn't like Google. Their segment of the Cabal doesn't control them, so there's a clear level specific animus. Not that it isn't justified, but it's been noticeable for a while.
Didn't like the Merkel phone surveillance either. IF the glow-in-the-dark CIA Ugandans really were tilted by the NSA overmatching (and compromising) their signals intelligence enough to intentionally throw out Snowden in an attempt to have it cut down to size by public outcry, perhaps the panopticon in the hands of worthy watchmen, and being leveraged for the Good.

Blogger Raker_T October 23, 2018 7:15 PM  

I must be missing something here . . .we've been watching the left's double standards for so long, that someone, probably at this blog, pointed out how the left feels superior by the standards not applying to them. Double standards by the left are a given, so I assumed these copyright laws were a formality aimed at selectively targeting right wing content. I find it baffling that YouTube is concerned.

Blogger Damelon Brinn October 23, 2018 7:50 PM  

@38, Fair Use doesn't include just making clip shows with no additional content, though, which is what he was talking about.

On the other hand, many creators have been hit for using short clips in legitimate movie reviews, because the reviews were negative. It all comes down to who complains to Youtube.

Blogger tz October 23, 2018 10:48 PM  

The SJWs will destroy their own, even the most virtue signalling versions. It reminds me of the scene from the Lost In Space movie.

The goalposts keep moving, and even Google can't keep up. I think China will be worse assuming they even try. And Zuckie is also trying to break into the China Shop.

Blogger Jack Amok October 24, 2018 1:42 AM  

There are no longer any "American Corporations."

If there are, YouTube and Google certainly aren't one of them. If they were, they'd just respond to this by blocking access from any European switches and say "well, let us know if you want our content again." But they won't, because they aren't.

Youtube won't even allow background music now unless you can prove it's public domain, that's what I have been advised. This copyright stuff has gotten completely out of hand.

Tell me about it. Last year we captured a phone-video of several of us wishing a friend of my niece's Merry Christmas because she was stuck in the Neo-natal unit with her premie twins. Niece uploaded it to her friend's Facebook page, and effing eff-book muted the entire things because Bing Crosby was playing in the background.

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Blogger By My Greybeard! October 24, 2018 8:30 AM  

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Blogger By My Greybeard! October 24, 2018 8:48 AM  

tz said on 2018-10-23 at 2248h:

“...Lost in Space movie.”

Thanks, tz! I didn't even know of the movie's existence! I'll have to have a look at it.

– BmG


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