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Sunday, December 09, 2018

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It's mildly amusing to observe how freaked out Google's executives and managers are about the fact that everything they do is leaked out to various bloggers and reporters, considering how involved they are in tracking everything that everyone else does. I have to give Google a modicum of credit for self-discipline, though, as I've been expecting "rogue employees" to start trying to publicly embarrass critics by releasing emails and search histories for years.
A senior former Google employee who quit over its controversial plans to launch a search engine in China painted a picture of a company whose upper echelons are obsessed with stopping leaks, to the exclusion of almost anything else.

Jack Poulson, a former researcher at the company, said that senior managers consider the prevention of leaks to be their "number one priority."

In comments reported on Saturday by The Times of London, Poulson cited as an example of the anti-leak culture an an unnamed senior engineer taking the microphone at an all-hands meeting to yell "F--- you leakers" at his colleagues.

He said that the campaign against leaking had become a way for Google to avoid tackling the reasons staff were leaking in the first place, including concerns over the Chinese search project, code-named Dragonfly, or work for the US military.

Poulson left Google in September over Dragonfly, and said he believed four other employees had done the same. Google declined to comment on his departure at the time.

He said, according to The Times: "The narrative is that leaking is bad and that the number one priority is to prevent any leaks."
Allow me to give you a little advice, Googlers. You will NEVER stop the leakers because a not-insignificant percentage of your colleagues are the very kind of people you have targeted for your ongoing anti-right hate campaign. They knew to keep their mouths shut, or in some cases, to present a convincing SJW front, so you think they are in accordance with your insane social justice program.

But they're not. And they're very, very motivated to make sure that the outside world knows exactly what you are up to. Because they think you are insane.

What we're seeing here with Google and with Facebook is the beginning of the great Big Tech crackup that has been inevitable since they decided to publicly cast in their lots with the Left and try to thought police the Internet. That doomed them, because it sent a very clear signal to the rest of the world that they not only could not be trusted, they could not even be tolerated.

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Blogger crescent wrench December 09, 2018 5:30 AM  

Speaking of which.. this lovely article was published this weekend, and mind you "lifehacker" is hardly right-leaning.

https://lifehacker.com/the-comprehensive-guide-to-quitting-google-1830001964

Blogger Duke Norfolk December 09, 2018 5:44 AM  

The paranoia and tactics are very much like a totalitarian govt. And increasingly, so is their power. Until it all comes down, of course.

Blogger Silent Draco December 09, 2018 6:24 AM  

It does make you wonder if Google is feeling unintended effects from that change to their TOS. How hard was it, really, to abide by the surface meaning of "Don't be Evil"?

Blogger The Observer December 09, 2018 6:27 AM  

How hard was it, really, to abide by the surface meaning of "Don't be Evil"?

Well, you see, it depends on what you mean by evil...

Blogger BastionHarm December 09, 2018 6:36 AM  

Well, you see, it depends on what you mean by evil...

Indeed. For your standard NPC at Google (and the Left in general):

Dropping the Cross in a vat of urine...is good;
Bending the knee and seeking forgiveness before that same Cross...is evil.

Blogger Don't Call Me Len December 09, 2018 6:37 AM  

@1 - From the comments: "We need more articles about how to push the govt to regulate, oversee and punish abusers, not “how to best fold the tinfoil for your hat”."

People want a strongman government more than they will ever admit. Save me from the meanies, Daddy!

Blogger Lazarus December 09, 2018 6:38 AM  

Maybe they are starting to kill them off:

NEW YORK (CBSNewYork) – A 22-year-old man was found dead inside Google’s New York City offices on Friday.

According to police, the body of Scott Krulcik was discovered on the sixth floor of tech giant’s building in Chelsea.

Krulcik did not have any reported signs of trauma and investigators told CBS2 that the death does not appear to be suspicious.

According to multiple reports, the 22-year-old was a Google employee and worked as a software engineer for the company.

The city’s medical examiner is working to determine how Krulcik died. Police are continuing to investigate the incident.


His Linkedin and twitter accounts are already scrubbed.

From his resume: Interests
Outdoor Adventures — Hiking in the Adirondack Mountains, downhill skiing, tracking wolves in Yellowstone
History — New York State Military Museum tour guide and docent, SSHS Quiz Bowl trivia team (national semifinalist)
Sports — Kyokushin karate (2nd-degree black belt), varsity track (pole vaulter), pickup soccer


Not a soiboi

Blogger SciVo December 09, 2018 7:16 AM  

Of course, the narrative is that their leak problem is due to being insufficiently woke. Why do those sneaky, manipulative weasels even have a problem with Dragonfly? Because deciding how to best censor and track everyone is their job?

Blogger Mr.MantraMan December 09, 2018 7:21 AM  

I'll just assume that google is gamma central, how they could possibly keep any secrets would be a miracle.

Blogger SciVo December 09, 2018 7:36 AM  

Good thing it has all those lambdas, women, and hindus to bring some emotional ballast!

Blogger Paul M December 09, 2018 8:13 AM  

> It's mildly amusing to observe how freaked out Google's executives and managers are about the fact that everything they do is leaked out to various bloggers and reporters, considering how involved they are in tracking everything that everyone else does.

In general, the people most likely to video you (security, law enforcement) very much dislike being videoed.

Blogger Dirtnapninja December 09, 2018 8:31 AM  

Dear Google employee: If you are white, or male, right wing or Christian, Google hates you. You owe them nothing. Take their money, and find every way you can to screw them.

Keep leaking.

Blogger Johnny December 09, 2018 8:55 AM  

The balancing act is to appear to be an open forum while regimenting it. Thus the back and forth struggle, control by intimidation, slander, denial of access, etc..

Blogger marco moltisanti December 09, 2018 8:57 AM  

"They knew to keep their mouths shut, or in some cases, to present a convincing SJW front, so you think they are in accordance with your insane social justice program."

The SJWs really do think silence equals agreement. I suppose the communists did the same in the USSR. Here deep in blue territory, I remain silent when my coworkers virtue signal, and simply because I speak a few foreign languages and take interest in intellectual topics, they assume I'm one of them. Those horrible Trump supporters are all ignorant rednecks, after all.

Before the midterms I'd desperately hoped that Vox and other dissident right-wingers were correct in their predictions that the Dems would suffer a crushing defeat and not even take the House. Would have been wonderful to feel that people like me are a majority. Alas, the fake Americans vote in their own interests and a sufficient number of heritage Americans and others whites sincerely buy into the Democrats' Marxist/white men bad program.

Blogger Damelon Brinn December 09, 2018 9:37 AM  

The tech-minded people Google needs to run its systems are overwhelmingly libertarian of the "Don't tell me what to do" variety. They're not particularly ideological, or at least they weren't. As they wake up, the only direction for the straight, white ones to move is right. They can't all be replaced by tranny outliers, and a billion Indians at a billion keyboards won't code a fast hash table in our lifetimes.

The paranoia and tactics are very much like a totalitarian govt.

Yes, it's striking. I've been saying for a while that Big Social *are* effectively the government of Internet society. They make the laws and enforce them, and we elected them by clicking their Agree buttons. We just have no built-in way to unelect them, but internal revolt can still work.

Blogger James Dixon December 09, 2018 10:09 AM  

> We just have no built-in way to unelect them, but internal revolt can still work.

Don't use Google search as your first or even second option. Save it for a last attempt when all else has failed. Advertising from searches is what makes Google their money. Cut it off.

Duckduckgo is reasonably good. Ixquick isn't quite as good, but still functional. Bing is a third fallback.

Use ProtonMail instead of gmail.

Oh, and use google as a noun and a verb for search. Widespread usage as such may eventually remove it's trademark status.

Blogger Doktor Jeep December 09, 2018 10:21 AM  

I know a fellow whose SJW front is so solid he is on HRT and wearing blouses.
Top tier "daywalker". For the rest of us we just keep our mouthes shut and follow the Mike Pence Rule.

Blogger Lance E December 09, 2018 12:22 PM  

SciVo wrote:Why do those sneaky, manipulative weasels even have a problem with Dragonfly?

Same reason they had a problem with China's firewall. Or Russia's state-owned media. Or persecution of the Rohingya. To signal virtue and deflect blame, while avoiding any real responsibility.

marco moltisanti wrote:The SJWs really do think silence equals agreement.

Wrong. Insufficient enthusiasm for the Narrative is always understood as an indicator of guilt. However, no corporation can fire upwards of 80% of its staff simply for not plastering rainbow flags all over their cubicles and wearing BLM shirts. Someone needs to do the actual work.

Blogger DonReynolds December 09, 2018 1:30 PM  

The real hazard to Google is not that any secret right-wing mole may have wormed their way into the apple. The impossible hazard to deal with is the fact that not all Google employees are Trotskyites or Maoist Red Guards. In the Leftist world, shame and rejection and shunning and guilt are a big part of the purification process. In order to control the flow of guilt, they must also control what everyone feels guilty about....completely....and they cannot do that, not even in the confines of the corporation. People have their own mores and ethical limitations and get squeamish at different threshholds.

The true believer Trotsky may be able to tolerate lying, and torture, and pointless murder as just a necessary step in the overthrow of everything they label as rightist, nativist, and nationalist, but others will have their own guilty conscience to deal with. No, there are not enough Trotskyites in the world to people the Google organization, especially if they are recruited for skills and intelligence.

So the fanatical Trotskyites cannot operate the ship by themselves and the few mutineers hold the rest of the crew as slaves and hostages by virtue of their control over cutlass and pistol. Are they pirates at Google yet?

Blogger VD December 09, 2018 1:43 PM  

Go away, Unknown. This is a No Gammas Allowed zone.

Blogger Maniac December 09, 2018 1:57 PM  

What about the talk of labeling Google as a publisher and being able to go after them as such? Could someone with more knowledge of law explain the potential outcome?

Blogger crescent wrench December 09, 2018 2:06 PM  

@7

"A 22-year-old man was found dead inside Google’s New York City offices on Friday."

No, they're not killing them off over politics.. they're killing them via stress and slave hours.

This is standard for the region.

Pay is nominally good.. average in the mid 100k's, but the houses/rents are so high you'd do just as well plumbing or running wire as an electrician in an interior state.

Blogger DonReynolds December 09, 2018 2:36 PM  

There are two ways to have a career, that I have found.

One way is to get on board with a rather large organization and spend a few decades clawing up the corporate ladder to your level of incompetence and cling tight until your generous retirement.

Another way is to travel before your profession, moving from one situation to the next, normally in the same capacity. That way, you have worked the craft in a variety of environments and enjoyed a bit of variety as you work over the decades. Retirement is less generous in this situation, but the experience is priceless.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash December 09, 2018 4:06 PM  

DonReynolds wrote:One way is to get on board with a rather large organization and spend a few decades clawing up the corporate ladder to your level of incompetence and cling tight until your generous retirement.

Another way is to travel before your profession, moving from one situation to the next, normally in the same capacity.

Yes, yes, we know you're Boomer.
I'm a late Boomer and there has NEVER been a corporate ladder to climb up.

Blogger James Dixon December 09, 2018 4:27 PM  

> I'm a late Boomer and there has NEVER been a corporate ladder to climb up.

Oh, there is, but lowlife's from the hourly or technical side need not apply. You have to have your business degree from the right places or a PHD in the appropriate fields.

Blogger SciVo December 09, 2018 5:14 PM  

Purge187 wrote:What about the talk of labeling Google as a publisher and being able to go after them as such? Could someone with more knowledge of law explain the potential outcome?

IANAL. The short-term effect would be Google getting deluged in lawsuits, the medium-term would be censorship dialed up to 11, and the long-term would be bankruptcy, since the platform would be useless and everyone would leave.

Well-intentioned laws governing liability for content on in the internet have backfired horribly, by giving privileges without responsibility: "safe harbor" from liability for passing along your content, without a "common carrier" requirement to do so.

Utilities such as phone companies are legally required to serve all comers, and also insulated from liability for what you might do with the services that they provide. Internet companies got the latter without the former, and human nature being what it is, privilege/responsibility mismatches always Always ALWAYS lead to disaster.

As different factions fought to bring order to the Wild Wild 'Net, the Establishment naturally wanted maximal restrictions on your speech and mine, up to and including actually treating our posts advocating for candidates as in-kind campaign contributions, subject to all associated regulations. I was in the 'net trenches arguing that the spirit of the 1A was to protect individual speech by protecting the press shop from liability for printing your scurrilous screed, and we won but poorly, setting the stage for the current conflict.

The 1A was very much intended to empower the common man's speech by protecting the print shop owner from liability for his customer's words. In Colonial times, the representative of the Crown would keep a lid on expressions of discontent by issuing vague threats to the owners of printing presses, turning them into harsher censors than any government official could hope to be, since any family man would be exceedingly reluctant to a chance on losing his livelihood and his babies going hungry.

Blogger SciVo December 09, 2018 5:29 PM  

[facepalm] The correct rhetorical flourish is, of course, Wild Wild Web.

I am so ashamed.

Blogger tz December 09, 2018 5:30 PM  

I don't plug in without a Sergi protector.

As the convergence engame approaches, apparently paranoia becomes part of the failure mode.

As with Countries, corporations with lots of stored capital, including good will (see Sears), can coast on the earlier momentum.

Apple can't square the circle between a walled garden and crowdsourced data or even whether or not to do the media portion for other platforms (iTunes for windows in the iPod days). Apple will continue for a while with good but not-as-good-as applications like Maps, iBooks, Safari, streaming music, iTunes music/podcasts and video.

Google only has ads as a cash cow, and the Cow is getting old.

Amazon makes money on AWS.

Apple makes most money on hardware, but that is breaking down so they are selling services.

Facebook is also about ads.

Netflix and Twitter are money losing black holes.

It will be interesting when there is an economic downturn. Cords are already cut, but it may go deeper.

Blogger DonReynolds December 09, 2018 5:59 PM  

Snidely Whiplash wrote:DonReynolds wrote:One way is to get on board with a rather large organization and spend a few decades clawing up the corporate ladder to your level of incompetence and cling tight until your generous retirement.

Another way is to travel before your profession, moving from one situation to the next, normally in the same capacity.


Yes, yes, we know you're Boomer.

I'm a late Boomer and there has NEVER been a corporate ladder to climb up.


Maybe you never saw a corporate ladder from Mom's old dirty couch in the basement, where you could play video games and huff weed with your pals...but there were plenty of corporate ladders to climb, but they did not hand out participation trophies or juice boxes.

ALL of the Tech Giants have corporate ladders and none of them started with the same staff they have today. Don't like those corporate ladders? Try Harvard or the University of Chicago. Get on with ConEdison or Duke Power. No shortage of corporate ladders in this country.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd December 09, 2018 6:06 PM  

Don, there may still be a few corporate ladders, but there is definitely a shortage of them. I don't think even 1% of our kids have a shot at what the Boomers enjoyed and destroyed.

Blogger DonReynolds December 09, 2018 6:23 PM  

Ominous Cowherd wrote:Don, there may still be a few corporate ladders, but there is definitely a shortage of them. I don't think even 1% of our kids have a shot at what the Boomers enjoyed and destroyed.

Every place I ever worked still exists and existed long before I got there and they all employ more staff than when I worked there. Without exception. No matter whether it was corporate or public sector or non-profit or utility. They employ more people and pay them much better and the work places are better decorated and safer than they used to be.

Blogger Verne December 09, 2018 6:26 PM  

The thing is both plumbing and running wire pay over 100,000 in the San Francisco silicon valley areas

Blogger James Dixon December 09, 2018 6:56 PM  

> but there were plenty of corporate ladders to climb, but they did not hand out participation trophies or juice boxes.

What part of late boomer escaped you Don? I'm one too. Those ladders were no longer there.

> Every place I ever worked still exists and existed long before I got there and they all employ more staff than when I worked there.

Good. Go talk to the people who work there now. Ask them how things have changed. Because they definitely have. The divide between management and workers at most businesses has never been wider, and never the twain shall meet. I'm sure there are exceptions, but good luck finding them.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd December 09, 2018 8:24 PM  

DonReynolds wrote:Every place I ever worked still exists and existed long before I got there and they all employ more staff than when I worked there. Without exception. No matter whether it was corporate or public sector or non-profit or utility. They employ more people and pay them much better and the work places are better decorated and safer than they used to be.

None of those places are hiring kids out of high school and training them to be managers or skilled workmen, right? Odds are good that none of those places will hire a kid right out of college and put him on a track for bigger, better things.

Every place wants trained up people, no place wants to train anybody. Everyone wants to hire out of Mexico or Mumbai. I only have a job because citizenship is a requirement where I am now, and because a decade ago the Christian principle at an engineering firm got a T&M contract and needed bodies to bill against it.

Blogger crescent wrench December 09, 2018 10:29 PM  

DonReynolds wrote:
Every place I ever worked still exists and existed long before I got there and they all employ more staff than when I worked there. Without exception.


And:
1 - most of those staff are in the third world, without exception.
2 - the few US positions remaining are 13243424 applicants to 1, without exception.

In 1955, half the middle class owned businesses.
The knowledge to do that has gone extinct by design, and the major corps who engineered that collapse are consolidating and down-sizing.

THANKS BOOMERS!

Blogger Ominous Cowherd December 09, 2018 11:01 PM  

wahr01 wrote:In 1955, half the middle class owned businesses.

The knowledge to do that has gone extinct by design, and the major corps who engineered that collapse are consolidating and down-sizing.

THANKS BOOMERS!


Even if you know how to start and run a business, the barriers to entry into any and every business have been raised way higher than they were in 1955. Most small businesses today are one-man bands. The owner works all day at his trade, then he and his wife stay up half the night doing government paperwork, all so he can make wages. The tradesman who goes to work for a big business makes the same wages, and gets to party while Mr. Small Businessman struggles with his paperwork.

Everyone who has a business tells me you can't afford to have one employee: you either need to be big enough to have a dozen, or small enough to have none. I've known several who tried to expand, decided it was a losing game, and scaled back down to one man shows.

Blogger DonReynolds December 10, 2018 12:37 AM  

I would hate for any of you to walk away from this little chat still thinking you are the first to have serious competition in the jobs arena...or that you are the first to be disappointed in your career. It is a common sensation when you are one of the smallest population cohorts, because of the pill, and abortion, and feminism. But it is even more widespread when you are one of the biggest population cohorts in American history....and still are.

There were not enough schools or teachers but there were way too many who wanted to play baseball or football or basketball. There were not enough jobs for everyone coming out of high school and there were too many who tried to go to college. Any other time, maybe a better college, but at the time state university was the best available. It was a major effort to deal with so many people, roughly the same age, at the same time. Competition? You bet, only they were not immigrants or migrants, and they often had better educations and more degrees and more experience and "connections", you and your family never even heard of.

If you have a career later it may be because you went into a field in college that very few studied because it was rigorous and boring or too much work or didn't pay that much. Then you have a good chance of being the first person the organization ever hired with your background or the youngest they ever hired, and the next youngest person on the staff is twice your age or more. If you bounce well, you can always find another job anytime you lose one, but the search may take a year or more (easily) and somehow you have to pay rent, so you may work where you can in the meantime. It might mean retail, or night security, or fast food, or contractor, or consultant. Personally, I never had the luxury of passing up work just because I thought something better might come along later. Sometimes if you apply yourself and do your best, the crummy job might BECOME a better one later. Not very often, but sometimes, and you never know.

After being the first and the youngest for about ten years, you may become the first or the youngest manager or department head or supervisor. You end up hiring young people because they have promise or ability. You will be able to tell when your career is almost over when you apply for the same work you always did but all the people interviewing you are younger than your kids. You will notice it when it happens. Best of luck.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash December 10, 2018 1:03 AM  

@DonReynolds,
Your sneering isn't helping your case. Also,
Fuck you.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd December 10, 2018 8:53 AM  

DonReynolds wrote:Competition? You bet, only they were not immigrants or migrants, and they often had better educations and more degrees and more experience and "connections", you and your family never even heard of.

Yes, that's the GenX experience exactly. Swarms of Boomers, out of college a few years earlier, front-running everything, sucking the oxygen out of every room. Graduating into a deep recession made it much worse for me than the ones who came later.

Snidely Whiplash wrote:@DonReynolds,
Your sneering isn't helping your case. Also,
Fuck you.


Boomer sneering surely makes my case, and yours. Foolish Boomers can't see, period.

Blogger Greg December 10, 2018 9:09 AM  

I would like to promote Computing Forever's term: paper Americans. He actually said paper Irish, but I adapted it.

Blogger Greg December 10, 2018 9:15 AM  

Twitter, Apple and Patreon would seem to be far down that road, and legal precedent doesn't seem on their side.

Blogger James Dixon December 10, 2018 9:41 AM  

> I would hate for any of you to walk away from this little chat still thinking you are the first to have serious competition in the jobs arena...or that you are the first to be disappointed in your career.

Don, quit acting like we don't know what we're talking about. We're old enough to have seen the world you're talking about as children. It doesn't exist anymore.

Snidely and I are IT professionals. We've watched the job opportunities in our field destroyed by the importation of H1B visa holders from India. We've watched the equivalent in other fields. We've watched the management chain move to being solely staffed by graduates from the "right" universities and it being walled off from the hourly and technical worker side. We've watched wages stagnate or even decline across the board in the US.

We've lived through this, and been largely successful in spite of it, because we're damned good at our jobs, and competent managers know they still need people like us.

We know what we're talking about. The world you knew no longer exists. Quit trying to pretend it does.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash December 10, 2018 10:14 AM  

Greg wrote:I would like to promote Computing Forever's term: paper Americans. He actually said paper Irish, but I adapted it.

"Paper Americans" is Vox's term.

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