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Tuesday, December 04, 2018

The end of neoconservativism

From Twitter:
BREAKING: Multiple sources tell me that neocon magazine @weeklystandard is expected to close its operations in a few weeks. It had lost many subscribers since the 2016 election as its #NeverTrumper editors @BillKristol @stephenfhayes @SykesCharlie publicly aligned with the Left.
Good riddance. We can safely anticipate Commentary, the Ineffectual Dork Web, and the other neocon vehicles eventually drying up and blowing away. No one is paying any serious attention to any of them anymore. They're totally irrelevant in a post-monopolar world.

Tonight: Dave Rubin interviews Ben Shapiro and Harvey Weinstein about Jordan Peterson! And don't miss a special show tomorrow when Dave interviews Jordan Peterson about Ben Shapiro's latest appearance on Joe Rogan!

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70 Comments:

Blogger Bultz December 04, 2018 7:02 PM  

Dave made a great point about decency and being respectable on that stream, really made you think. He's always testing those boundaries

Blogger wahr01 December 04, 2018 7:04 PM  

Unfortunately, they've just replaced "neocon" editors with "fredocon" influencers.

Everyone who was utterly vaporizing the leftist narrative across social and alternative media has been smeared out of the overton window or otherwise un-personed, leaving "fredocon" plants whose most potent message is whining "democrats are the real racists"

Blogger Daniel December 04, 2018 7:12 PM  

The fredocons and neocons are the same thing: jewish "ex-"leftists who "woke up" to become the purity wing of the Democrats. If Judeo Christ is their Secret King of Secret Kings, then then neocons feel entitled to sit at his right hand.

Blogger Daniel December 04, 2018 7:13 PM  

This does put a new connotation to the term "Breaking News."

It's breaking alright. It's all breaking.

Blogger eclecticme December 04, 2018 7:13 PM  

When Bill Kristol called for regime change in China the magazine turned into a satire rag.

Blogger Dirk Manly December 04, 2018 7:17 PM  

Satire is humor in the form of clever and accurate observations.

Kristol calling for regime change in China involved neither accurate observations nor cleverness.

Blogger SciVo December 04, 2018 7:20 PM  

It's kind of weird how they refuse to move to the one country in the world whose boundaries they respect.

Blogger tz December 04, 2018 7:24 PM  

#KristolNacht - the weakly standard goes down. Don't they break glass at Jewish weddings?

One who tries to keep one foot on the dock and the other on the boat had better know how to swim.

I thought Jews would cross the Jordan.

The (great term) ineffectual dork web is an attempt at creating an echo chamber to make it louder.

Speaking of which (with Crowder), Beck's Blaze managed to merge with CRTV before a full flameout. There hasn't been an announcement of layoffs, yet. So expect some pinwheel windmills (instead of clean coal) in Christmas stockings.

Blogger Lance E December 04, 2018 7:25 PM  

The smarter ones will probably migrate to Quillette. And the rest... well, think Glenn Beck.

Blogger Cataline Sergius December 04, 2018 7:26 PM  

Don't get too excited.

This could just be a backdoor way for Bill Krystal to rattle the begging bowl for the Silicon Valley moguls.

And even if that isn't whats happening, this could be the result anyway.

Krystal has proven to be a rather useful, Useful Idiot.

Blogger Jack Ward December 04, 2018 7:27 PM  

Vox. Its not April fools day so I'm guessing you are not joking about the last paragraph and the happenings tonight?
Yeah, you were probably joking.
I have to watch that stream about rhetoric and dialectic. Maybe the post ending was a test.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother December 04, 2018 7:38 PM  

Glory hallelujah

Blogger Damaris Tighe December 04, 2018 7:46 PM  

Bill Crystal can now go ahead and represent Antifa with a clear conscience.

Blogger Rough Carrigan December 04, 2018 7:53 PM  

Well, I want to help.

Should Kristol or Hayes achieve the vocational status appropriate to their talents I just want to say, in advance, that no, Bill or Steve. I don't want fries with that.

Blogger Dirtnapninja December 04, 2018 8:06 PM  

And bit by bit Judeoconservativism dies.

I remember watching the tucker-shapiro debate and thinking "the jewish right is being replaced"

Blogger seeingsights December 04, 2018 8:14 PM  

Actually I take some credence in rumor that The Weekly Standard will be closing.
Throughout publishing history, all sorts of periodicals--ranging from political to short story--have come and gone.
Also, in our current time, dead tree publications lose advertising to the internet.
Political magazines such as the left wing Nation and the libertarian Reason each get funding from a foundation. That is what is keeping them alive.
I wouldn't be surprised if Kristol will seek funding from the Deep State. He won't reveal it if he does, of course.

Blogger tublecane December 04, 2018 8:15 PM  

Their collapse is more drawn-out than I had imagined, considering they have almost no value whatsoever, in or outside the market. Then again various aspects of the left are completely useless (until suddenly they're ubiquitous), and they get subsidized.

That's institutional, through state funding, at universities and through think-tanks, foundations, and whatever converged entities don't mind losing money. I guess neoconnery must have a reserve for such things, especially as it had been lucrative in the past. Also because big money ain't flowing into pro-Heritage American movements soon.

Still, they gotta cut their losses sometime, and here's to hoping the MSM and left-controlled culture in general cuts the off completely, too.

Blogger The Deplorable Podunk Ken Ramsey December 04, 2018 8:25 PM  

Now would be the perfect time for The Weekly Standard, Commentary and NRO if they opposed the Left. But of course that never was what they were really about. People eventually caught on.

Blogger Doktor Jeep December 04, 2018 8:26 PM  

Neocons got their start as Trotskyites.
Yes, it's judeo-bolshevism.
Stalin indirectly saved the world when he had Trotsky killed.

Blogger Stannous Baratheon December 04, 2018 8:26 PM  

I know it’s a typo, but Dave Rubin interviewing Harvey Weinstein, that I would actually tune in to check out.

Blogger tublecane December 04, 2018 8:36 PM  

@3- Despite jokes about his having been abandoned by Gypsies, Fredo was the natural son of Vito Corleone. He wasn't an interloper with foreign ideas. He was simply of limited competence and a traitor.

Blogger Avalanche December 04, 2018 8:51 PM  

The Dark Lord has posted the essay he discussed on his DarkStream tonight, "THE CLUB THAT DARE NOT SPEAK ITS NAME" by Vox Day:

https://voxday.blogspot.com/2008/08/fight-club-anthology.html

Which essay starts:

This is an essay that appears in the new and wide-ranging SmartPop anthology, entitled You Do Not Talk About Fight Club: I Am Jack's Completely Unauthorized Essay Collection. The anthology was edited by the brilliant media ecologist Read Mercer Schuchardt and features a forward by Chuck Palahniuk himself.

Blogger tz December 04, 2018 9:00 PM  

@21 wasn't he the nephew of Bozo - Baggmans?
@15 as there is not Judaeo-Christianity except in the sense of parasite-host, Judaeo-whatever dying is merely a product of their inability to survive when deprived of a healthy host.

Blogger Jack Amok December 04, 2018 9:48 PM  

I guess Boomers are getting too old to fill up the cruise ships.

Blogger Lazarus December 04, 2018 10:05 PM  

Jack Amok wrote:I guess Boomers are getting too old to fill up the cruise ships.

They can't risk getting the flu anymore.

Blogger kurt9 December 04, 2018 10:12 PM  

I am also pleased to see the Weekly Standard shut down as well. I'm rooting for National Review to shit down as well.

Blogger Random #57 December 04, 2018 10:17 PM  

Does Commentary even have any real influence outside of (((certain circles))) after they put up their paywall?

Blogger Crew December 04, 2018 10:25 PM  

Good riddance!

Blogger pyrrhus December 04, 2018 10:30 PM  

O/T Wow, French Police remove helmets to support rioters...https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/france/french-police-remove-helmet-to-support-people-against-macrons-government/

Blogger pyrrhus December 04, 2018 10:31 PM  

Jack Amok wrote:
I guess Boomers are getting too old to fill up the cruise ships.


They can't risk getting the flu anymore.

Or food poisoning...

Blogger Skyler the Weird December 04, 2018 10:33 PM  

@29 je suis Les Gilets Jaunes –

Blogger pyrrhus December 04, 2018 10:34 PM  

O/T National day of mourning tomorrow for Bush41....Now I've seen everything...

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother December 04, 2018 10:39 PM  

Bush Holy Week

Blogger steve December 04, 2018 10:57 PM  

No surprise. They actually fact check conservatives who say mean things about liberals. Good riddance.

Blogger Jack Amok December 04, 2018 11:05 PM  

They can't risk getting the flu anymore.

Or food poisoning...


Sooooo, just about the time we will need a bunch of ships for repatriation, we're going to have a bunch of surplus cruise ships floating around Boomerless.

Convenient of the universe to cooperate like that. Almost as if there was some sort of... plan?

Blogger cyrus83 December 04, 2018 11:18 PM  

The Weekly Standard has been a subsidized plaything of the billionaires that bankrolled it from the beginning, Murdoch first and then Anschutz. Making money was never its primary purpose, otherwise it would have been dead long before now.

Now that Kristol and company have about the influence of a fruit fly in a blender on politics, neither Anschutz nor any other media moguls have any reason to underwrite the project any further. Kristol however will now have plenty of time to advertise for cruises on the SS Nevertrumptardia, featuring all the people on the fake right who nobody pays attention to anymore.

Blogger Sgt Polite December 04, 2018 11:56 PM  

Funny, was scrolling on faceborg (yes I know, I'm barely on it but for family), and there was an ad for Blaze TV, that CRTV and Blaze merger, the comment section was lit, calling Beck crazy and/or a traitor.

Blogger Unknown December 05, 2018 12:19 AM  

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Blogger Gettimothy December 05, 2018 12:20 AM  

"I wouldn't be surprised if Kristol will seek funding from the Deep State. He won't reveal it if he does, of course."

The slogan "Defending the Open Society" suggests they are Soros funded.


https://niskanencenter.org/blog/starting-over-the-center-right-after-trump/

Blogger FutureNoir84 December 05, 2018 12:23 AM  

Steve Bannon stated that the God Emperor will face a third party candidate in 2020.

Looks to me like Kristal is freeing himself up to be Mike Bloomberg's campaign manager. Nikki Haley will be the VP candidate.

This will be a big part of the Deep States attempt to dislodge Trump from the White House. Take away enough Republican votes in Florida so it goes blue.

Blogger wahr01 December 05, 2018 12:30 AM  

@40

The idiots just voted by a 60/40+ margin to give over a million felons the vote in FL, a state that went red by under 100k votes.

It's already blue.
It's the 1986 amnesty all over again.

Blogger Dirk Manly December 05, 2018 12:47 AM  

@24

"I guess Boomers are getting too old to fill up the cruise ships."

Or they've already got more STD's than they can handle. Have you seen the figures for venereal disease rate^H^H^H^Hepidemics in Boomer-infested retirement facilities?

Blogger Scott C December 05, 2018 2:32 AM  

Dave Rubin wants his audience to think that Jordan Peterson and Ben Shapiro are important, interesting thinkers.

Blogger SciVo December 05, 2018 3:06 AM  

Dave Rubin is a good long-form interviewer who wants to be taken seriously as such, and Jordan Peterson and Ben Shapiro are people who draw crowds for live talks and are willing to come on his show (and why not, he's very friendly). He also had Milo on his show more than once; it was in no way an endorsement. His questions are good enough to show knowledge of the subject, natural curiosity, and even some thought.

He's a gay LA liberal and no ally of mine, but an honest interlocutor and not an NPC. If I were to ever become a public figure, I would not automatically reject an interview request from him.

Blogger Arthur Isaac December 05, 2018 3:12 AM  

The other thing I've noticed being refunded is the Zio Bible Colleges. They served their usefulness and now to the next phase of the plan.

Blogger Arthur Isaac December 05, 2018 3:15 AM  

Defunded.

Blogger Lovekraft December 05, 2018 6:05 AM  

Put it on the dustheap of history.

Blogger The Kurgan December 05, 2018 6:21 AM  

Tonight: Dave Rubin interviews Ben Shapiro and Harvey Weinstein about Jordan Peterson! And don't miss a special show tomorrow when Dave interviews Jordan Peterson about Ben Shapiro's latest appearance on Joe Rogan!

HAHAHHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAH!

Blogger The Lab Manager December 05, 2018 6:57 AM  

((Bill)) needs to stuffed directly into an oven. I was so happy when Trump won on election night and seeing him just having to go home cry in his kosher wine along with that wine box hobgoblin hag Martha what ever her name is. Along with libtards, too bad we can't round up neo cons and their defenders and have them physically removed from society.

Blogger Stilicho December 05, 2018 7:02 AM  

National Review is about to get an infusion of neocon retreads. Bill Kristol though, will start working immediately on the Kasich 2020 campaign... for the democrat nomination.

Pro-tip: short bow-tie futures.

Blogger Gregory the Great December 05, 2018 7:05 AM  

Agent Hayes - mission aborted, awaiting reassignment
Agent Kristol - mission aborted, awaiting reassignment
Agent Sykes - mission aborted, awaiting reassignment
Agent Peterson - sending distress signals
Agent Shapiro - sending distress signals

Blogger CarpeOro December 05, 2018 7:58 AM  

At least they still have their gigs as "conservative" commentators on the cable news shows... that and being cursed by the Dalai Lama to all come back as worms.

Blogger Random #57 December 05, 2018 8:59 AM  

@45 Arthur Isaac:

The other thing I've noticed being defunded is the Zio Bible Colleges. They served their usefulness and now to the next phase of the plan.

I and I'll bet a lot of us don't follow them at all, can you point us at some references? I found some hits with "bible college closing" searching, but the details generally were "Churchanity college closing because no one wants to attend."

Blogger Ominous Cowherd December 05, 2018 10:00 AM  

Wouldn't "Zionist Bible College" be the same thing as "Churchian B C that no Christian would attend?"

I love the idea that there is a country for the Jews, but I can't imagine why Zionism would be a focus of education in theology at any Christian College.

Blogger Arthur Isaac December 05, 2018 10:37 AM  

I know of one first hand. I know their big East Coast funding dried up. The pump has been shut off. After 15 years of contending with dustbinsationalism it's suddenly like pushing against an open door. The Rabbi in the morning show on the radio even went away. Sources? Sorry. The Rabbi still probably has a show still, just not on the radio I can find.

Blogger Arthur Isaac December 05, 2018 10:41 AM  

Also, Cowherd, it's a theory of mine backed up with my observation of circumstances. Take that for what it's worth.

Blogger Random #57 December 05, 2018 10:59 AM  

@56 Arthur Isaac:

Also, Cowherd, it's a theory of mine backed up with my observation of circumstances. Take that for what it's worth.

I don't think it's that we disbelieve you, but that we're fascenated by the concept and want to explore it ourselves. Any way you could safely name the one you know of first hand? Names for any others you suspect?

Blogger Tars Tarkusz December 05, 2018 10:59 AM  

Vox was just sold at a 95% discount, down to $5 million from its last sale of $100 million. This is supposedly happening to a bunch of "new" media sites.
Perhaps I am hopefully out of touch with reality, but I always thought the real reason the print and now web media is failing is because it's so bad. They all think the same and print the same progressive worldview. Had they just accepted that their worldview had a small audience and fired the staff and hired competent right wing journalists to balance the far left journalists infesting every single print media outlet, they probably would have survived.

They preferred pretty lies about post-literate America and other excuses as to why nobody was reading these shitlib rags. I used to be a daily newspaper reader, but by the early 2000s, they were just completely unreadable. Every bankruptcy and mass layoff caused them to double down.
TWS is probably going to get some sugar daddy to keep them going. Either way, the people who ruined the press aren't going anywhere.

Blogger Tars Tarkusz December 05, 2018 11:34 AM  

SciVo wrote:Dave Rubin is a good long-form interviewer who wants to be taken seriously as such, and Jordan Peterson and Ben Shapiro are people who draw crowds for live talks and are willing to come on his show (and why not, he's very friendly).

Dave Rubin has a shtick of pandering to Cucks and centrists. Dave is pretty far left Jewish homo. He also panders to the hubris of his audience as the smart nuanced people. It is a total cringe-fest

Blogger Hammerli280 December 05, 2018 11:34 AM  

The Wages of Liberalism are Death.

Blogger Dirk Manly December 05, 2018 11:48 AM  

@49

" Along with libtards, too bad we can't round up neo cons and their defenders and have them physically removed from society. "

They'll make good bullet-stops when the civil war starts. Self-propelled sandbag right up to the moment of being emplaced.

Blogger Megatiercel December 05, 2018 12:24 PM  

Lucius Quinctius Cincinnatus​ asked Vox, "What’s the palpable difference between Empire and Geopolitical competition?" Does anyone have any links to more of Vox's thoughts on this topic?

Blogger FutureNoir84 December 05, 2018 12:53 PM  

"It's already blue."

The Democrat candidate is likely to be so bad they will need all the political ploys they can get!

Blogger Were-Puppy December 05, 2018 1:25 PM  

@43 Scott C
Dave Rubin wants his audience to think that Jordan Peterson and Ben Shapiro are important, interesting thinkers.
---

Shapiro is of no value when JBP has thought thoughts that no one has thought before.

Blogger Arthur Isaac December 05, 2018 4:58 PM  

Random, it's a small community.

Send International. Central Alaska Mission. Alaska Bible College. I've been acquainted with a few Presidents of one and the CFO of another.

Blogger Arthur Isaac December 05, 2018 5:03 PM  

Go to a "church" in Alaska and odds are 95% that one of these clowns has insinuated into some position of authority.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd December 05, 2018 5:18 PM  

" Central Alaska Mission. Alaska Bible College.". Howdy, neighbor.

Blogger Arthur Isaac December 05, 2018 6:08 PM  

Yes, Cowherd we live in the same town.

Blogger Dookie December 07, 2018 5:51 PM  

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Blogger Dookie December 07, 2018 5:53 PM  

Re zion colleges and why on earth Christians should be interested: Read the Bible as 1/3 is prophecy and Jesus is yet to reign physically on David's throne. Not enough colleges teach eschatology - it's being replaced with emergent church fake theology. At the same time a wise Christian should beware Soros' Synagogue of Satan

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