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Sunday, December 09, 2018

The God-Emperor in the corner

The globos are baring their teeth. They are trying to intimidate President Trump with a series of very public threats concerning future indictment and prosecution, but in doing so, they are also making it very clear to him that if he is ever going to Drain the Swamp, he had damn well better unleash The Storm while he still can.
Rep. Adam Schiff (D-Calif.) on Sunday said that President Trump might "face the real prospect of jail time" after prosecutors indicated last week that he directed illegal payments during his 2016 presidential campaign.

"There’s a very real prospect that on the day Donald Trump leaves office, the Justice Department may indict him. That he may be the first president in quite some time to face the real prospect of jail time," he said on CBS's "Face the Nation."

Adam Schiff on the Russia Investigation: My takeaway is there's a very real prospect that on the day Donald Trump leaves office the justice department may indict him. That he may be the first president in quite some time to face the real prospect of jail time.
— Face The Nation (@FaceTheNation) December 9, 2018

Schiff's comments come after federal prosecutors said in a legal filing Friday that referred to Trump as Individual-1 that Trump coordinated with and directed his former personal attorney, Michael Cohen, during the 2016 campaign to make illegal payments to two women claiming they had affairs with Trump. It was the first time prosecutors made those accusations against Trump.
This is not just some petty Congressman shooting off his mouth. This is a major Deep Swamp creature who is expected to become the next chairman of the House Intelligence Committee

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148 Comments:

Blogger kudzu bob December 09, 2018 1:13 PM  

I don't know much about strategy, but isn't leaving one's opponent no choice but to fight to the death usually a bad idea?

Blogger Rick December 09, 2018 1:15 PM  

I’m not worried. Shitt’s selling chairs on the Titanic. I’ll get worried when he stops.

Blogger James Dixon December 09, 2018 1:16 PM  

> "That he may be the first president in quite some time to face the real prospect of jail time"

If jail time for former Presidents is on the table, then it's time to make examples of Obama and Clinton then, isn't it?

Blogger kudzu bob December 09, 2018 1:25 PM  

The 2020 election is going to make the 2016 election look tame.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother December 09, 2018 1:28 PM  

Schiff to Trump: fight or get Romanov'ed...

Blogger Jack Ward December 09, 2018 1:28 PM  

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Blogger Dad29 December 09, 2018 1:29 PM  

Trump has been pulling punches a lot lately. One suspects that there have been credible and very serious threats to his family (not publicized, of course.) Those threats could be made for "future" activities--after Trump is out of office.

There are two other possibilities for his inaction: 1) he's comfortable with the status quo; or 2) he lied like Hell to get elected. Neither of those is comforting.

Blogger DJT December 09, 2018 1:34 PM  

If Trump is being threatened, he needs to do the smart thing and publicize it. The worst that can happen is he looks paranoid; but hey, name the names.

The time to hold back is over. He needs to unleash a political nuclear firestorm and now.

Blogger Jack Ward December 09, 2018 1:34 PM  

A search of the net showed that only US Grant was arrested for repeated speeding using his buggy on Washington streets. He took it like a gentlemen, apparently.
Otherwise, none I could find. Secret Service protection if in jail? No one knows but probably.

Blogger Noah B. December 09, 2018 1:35 PM  

If Trump did direct payments to prostitutes like Stormy Daniels to keep them quiet using his own money, that act was perfectly legal. Unfortunately the Democrats have a history of trying to shoehorn legal conduct into the scope of criminal statutes. They did this with Texas congressman Tom DeLay and even managed to convict him for violating a nonexistent statute before the courts finally set aside his conviction years later. They accused Rick Perry of committing a crime when he threatened to use his veto power as Texas governor to force the legislature to cease funding a corrupt and incompetent DA's office.

In other words, Schiff knows that they don't have sufficient evidence that Trump has committed a crime. But the Democrats have weaponized the law against their political enemies and are themselves guilty of abuse of power. Trump must act decisively.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine December 09, 2018 1:36 PM  

If former presidents are going to jail now, Ladies (and their pets) first.

Blogger Lazarus December 09, 2018 1:36 PM  

Sounds familiar. Didn't this come up months ago? The answer at the time was that the payments had nothing to do with the campaign.

What's changed?

Blogger Azure Amaranthine December 09, 2018 1:38 PM  

"In other words, Schiff knows that they don't have sufficient evidence that Trump has committed a crime. But the Democrats have weaponized the law against their political enemies and are themselves guilty of abuse of power. Trump must act decisively."

Ding ding ding!

Blogger Azure Amaranthine December 09, 2018 1:39 PM  

It's not about whether Trump even did anything illegal or not. It's about if they can claim he did and make it stick.

Blogger Lazarus December 09, 2018 1:39 PM  

I kept a picture of Clinton and Bush together when they were changing office. It made me think that Presidents should be required to serve some jail time on leaving office just on principle.

Walk out of the Oval office straight into the Big Black Maria.

Blogger Jack Ward December 09, 2018 1:41 PM  

I stand with President Trump! Now, is not the time to panic; if ever there has been a time since Jan. of 2016. Remember the things that are due to happen in Jan. 2019. The EO on tribunals, the swearing in of the new R senators. Also, remember the musings of Q that indictments and arrests may just swing the House back to R before early Jan of 19 that has been lurking in the noise.
Don't forget, too, that, most likely, Jeff Sessions will run for the Senate in 2020. He will win. He is well thought of here in Alabama. Thats one more for the Senate cushion for R.
Why, things are looking just peachy.

Blogger Lance E December 09, 2018 1:42 PM  

Lazarus wrote:Sounds familiar. Didn't this come up months ago? The answer at the time was that the payments had nothing to do with the campaign.

What's changed?


Democrats now control the House.

Blogger Andrew December 09, 2018 1:47 PM  

Jack Ward,

Exactly right. Hold steady and press on. Trump has the upper hand.

Blogger pyrrhus December 09, 2018 1:48 PM  

It's been clear for a long time that Trump's whole family is in danger if he doesn't clear out these traitors...Soooo...

Blogger peacefulposter December 09, 2018 1:50 PM  

Hanging the POTUS for a minor campaign violation would set an interesting precedent.












Blogger Mr.MantraMan December 09, 2018 1:52 PM  

If whiny hysterical womanish outrage culture still has traction then yeah Trump has problems, but if it is past its prime and is stinking up the joint then advantage Trump.

Blogger The Greay Man December 09, 2018 1:53 PM  

Jack,

Sessions already said he isn't running.

Blogger kudzu bob December 09, 2018 2:03 PM  

Jack:

Q is no more real than Prester John's kingdom was.

Blogger Rick December 09, 2018 2:06 PM  

Lance, they do not control the house.

Blogger JAG December 09, 2018 2:07 PM  

I fully support the G-E in declaring martial law, and sending every leftist shitbag to GITMO. Enough of this.

Blogger Rick December 09, 2018 2:09 PM  

“Q is no more real than Prester John's kingdom was.”

Well, I’m convinced.

Blogger Jill December 09, 2018 2:13 PM  

In light of no jail time for the Clintons, if they jail Trump, the lack of justice will reverberate all over this nation.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother December 09, 2018 2:19 PM  

Trump will not go to jail. The bane of his existence, his antichrist, is losing. Therefore, he will win.

Besides, with Catholic super babe Melania on her knees in church with her lace shawl in praying for Trump daily, how can he lose?

Blogger dienw December 09, 2018 2:22 PM  

Peaceful Poster wrote:Hanging the POTUS for a minor campaign violation would set an interesting precedent.

The Democrats/Communists do not expect to ever lose again. Hanging Trump will have no repercussions; they expect to be in power far longer than 75 years this time.

Blogger Azimus December 09, 2018 2:25 PM  

All hot air - look how serious the dems were about Kavanaugh til the vote then "poof".

Blogger Dos Voltz December 09, 2018 2:32 PM  

In my younger and much more naiive years, I thought that a president should be a morally virtuous pillar of society and have experience in the military.

Well, then I suffered through Clinton, the Bushes, and Hussein. So the scales fell from my eyes and I grew up. A president is a tool of the electorate, nothing more. And I elected a billionaire playboy as my sledgehammer, my scythe, and my torch.

I am not at all shocked that worn out skanks and whores would come out of the woodwork wanting cash for past dalliances. Cuz whores gonna whore. That democrats would flip to the Victorian Fainting Couch script is laughable, but predictable. Cuz they worship the lie and the father of all lies. Pro goal post movers.

But there is nothing wrong with a guy who enters into a private contract with a woman (of either ill repute or good repute) to keep secrets secret. Especially when the occurrences were long in the past before serving in public office. Adam Schiff is dreaming.

Hell, my tax dollars go into a congressional slush fund used to pay off a whole legion of skanks and whores who have been in the "employ" of democrats while IN OFFICE. And afterwards, those same low-lifes get to keep their jobs.

I will greatly enjoy seeing justice being meted out properly. We're gonna need the 24/7 Guillotine channel.

Blogger pyrrhus December 09, 2018 2:36 PM  

Welcome 3d world FUSA, where elections are a joke, and opponents get jailed or murdered.

Blogger crescent wrench December 09, 2018 2:39 PM  

@4

There won't be a 2020 election, just like there wasn't a 2018 election, just a carefully choreographed "pantomime" to cover up the wholesale "manufacture" of ballots.

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2018/12/after_californias_ballotharvest_what_is_to_be_done.html

Hopefully these recent moves by Democrats will wake "President Boomer" up to the reality that these people are not "loyal opposition".

If he doesn't start the ball rolling tying Antifa terrorism and "Sanctuary Cities" to these people and arresting them for their parts in it under the PATRIOT and insurrection acts starting first quarter 2019, he's done.

The next year will tell:
Do we crack down on open, institutional insurrection, or do we slide across the rubicon into single-party neo-fascist regime.

Blogger Bultz December 09, 2018 2:40 PM  

Trump better believe if he doesn't break the back of those he opposes while he still has time, they will be doing everything in their power to bankrupt and send him and his family to jail - call it a message to anyone else who tries to get involved in places where they don't belong

Blogger Mr.MantraMan December 09, 2018 2:43 PM  

If I were President first thing I would do is get control of the NSA because all these scum are dirty from overseas money and compromise material, so I hope Trump is thinking this way

Blogger Unknown December 09, 2018 2:44 PM  

Trump's strategy from day one with this "investigation" was to cooperate with the enemy, so it isn't too surprising that the hole gets dug deeper and deeper. It'll be interesting to see what kind of Attorney General William Barr makes. Maybe this Swamp Rat won't be like all the others?

Blogger Dirk Manly December 09, 2018 2:52 PM  

(((Schiff))) is a member of the (((Rothschild))) banking family.

That right there tells you why he's the one delivering the message, not some other Democrat who isn't a member of that family.

Blogger Stilicho December 09, 2018 2:54 PM  

Trump plays the game very differently from and more effectively than his GOP predecessors, but his problem is that he believes that it is still the same old political game. The democrats are going to give him a bloody, existential lesson. Let's hope he learns before it is too late.

Blogger Dirk Manly December 09, 2018 2:56 PM  

@20

"Hanging the POTUS for a minor campaign violation would set an interesting precedent."

And Adam Schiff was SOOOOOOOOOO interested in the hundreds of millions donated to Obama's campaign from 1 time use credit cards with overseas origins....

If they want to lock Trump up for this, then Obama deserves to be hung, drawn, quartered and gibetted.

Blogger Dirk Manly December 09, 2018 2:57 PM  

@24

"Lance, they do not control the house."

And the Democrats don't control the Senate.

The House can't convict, it can only file charges.

Blogger Crew December 09, 2018 3:00 PM  

Does this tell us anything?

https://www.westernjournal.com/ct/trump-crowd-frenzy-coin-toss-turns-honors-every-captain-field/?utm_source=Email&utm_medium=WJBreaking&utm_campaign=ct-breaking&utm_content=western-journal

President Donald Trump became the first sitting president to attend the Army-Navy game in seven years on Saturday, and he wasn’t just sitting on the sidelines.

Blogger Andrew December 09, 2018 3:09 PM  

If anyone understands he's in a bloodsport it's Trump. He'll be swift and final with justice when it's time. He's still luring more of the Deep State into the light but we're getting close.

Blogger Johnny December 09, 2018 3:16 PM  

"Hanging the POTUS for a minor campaign violation would set an interesting precedent."

Not an interesting precedent but an extraordinarily damaging one. Prosecuting an ex president can not be anything short of a political circus, damaging to any notion of the separation of power. If it is to be done than let them do it first so that what follows is their fault.

Blogger doctrev December 09, 2018 3:17 PM  

What a bunch of dumbasses. Even if General Pinochet wasn't cynical enough to realize that his peaceful departure from office would be repaid with an international indictment, he would certainly make different decisions if his idiotic enemies declared they were going to prosecute him for war crimes when he left office!

If you think President Trump will trust blanket pardons or political deals to keep him out of jail, you're dreaming. The man isn't -less- aware of history and the nature of his enemies than you or the average blog commenter. He's simply not going to leave the White House, period. Unless he has to be carried out.

Blogger FrankUnderwood December 09, 2018 3:18 PM  

If they jail Trump after he is done as President they will only succeed in polarizing things further. While middle of the road right wing candidates like Trump will be discouraged from running for office, the far-right candidates that decide to run will do so with their life on the line. In other words they will be all in from the beginning.

Blogger Hammerli 280 December 09, 2018 3:27 PM  

Trump or Chump? This has been my issue with the man - I don't think he really understands either the nature of the fight or the full power he can wield.

Trump needs to do more than put Andrew Jackson's picture on the wall. He needs to study Old Hickory...in particular, the part about him being willing to hang his own son-in-law (Jefferson Davis) if secession was attempted. Jackson fought several duels, was a stone-cold killer at need.

Channel that. Then act accordingly.

Blogger Lance E December 09, 2018 3:28 PM  

John Calla wrote:It'll be interesting to see what kind of Attorney General William Barr makes. Maybe this Swamp Rat won't be like all the others?

Heard that one before.

No, Stilicho @38 is right. We listened to Trump's "drain the swamp" speeches and thought he meant burning it all down. Maybe he really did at the time, and then realized afterward how impotent the White House really is. Regardless, his only chance now is to stop trying to be a reformer and start taking matters into his own hands. You can't reform evil.

Blogger Doktor Jeep December 09, 2018 3:37 PM  

I'm sure Trump will tweet about this. Or something.

Blogger Mark Stoval December 09, 2018 3:42 PM  

It is hard, darn hard, to look at all the available evidence and not come to the conclusion that the USA and most of the West is a "dead man walking".

Vox Day gets upset every once in a while when someone takes the very negative attitude. "Black pill" everyone calls that. But I honestly don't see a way out of our current mess.

On the other hand, often it is when the human can not see a way out of the mess that God changes the game and saves us. So yes, there is always hope since the almighty can do anything.

We need to do many things, but prayer for the children of the western nations is certainly the first order of business.

Blogger Noah B. December 09, 2018 3:54 PM  

"But I honestly don't see a way out of our current mess."

Given all the options available to us and the various possibilities that are completely beyond our control, that's a remarkable statement. It signals that you're suffering from a limited imagination and giving in to despair. Negative attitudes are widely disliked because they're both counterproductive and infectious.

Blogger Cataline Sergius December 09, 2018 3:56 PM  

My own take is that the Dems and the Deepstate are trying pressure President Trump into not running for a second term.

Heck, the GOP already has Senator Underoos tanned rested and ready to lose to whoever the Democrats finally pick.

The problem is that while threats of post office jail time would send the Swamp Creatures scurrying it mostly will have the God-Emperor looking at how best to repeal presidential term limits.



Blogger MATT December 09, 2018 3:57 PM  

"Negative attitudes are widely disliked because they're both counterproductive and infectious."

One of the reasons Im about done with Cerno

Blogger MATT December 09, 2018 3:59 PM  

@mark stoval

No way out? You mean no way out that pansies and pantywaists can stomach to watch or take part in.

If you want children or have children and fear for their future, you must be willing to take part in violent revolt.

Blogger Mark Stoval December 09, 2018 4:01 PM  

@50

"It signals that you're suffering from a limited imagination and giving in to despair."

You must have missed the part where I pointed out that we need God to get out of this mess and he is all powerful. I am saying we can't do this without God's intervention.

Is that really all that bad an idea to have?

Blogger kudzu bob December 09, 2018 4:04 PM  

I've heard it claimed that Benedict abdicated because his orders pertaining to punishing pedo clergy simply weren't being obeyed. The Lavender Mafia has consolidated its power in the Vatican.

I'm beginning to think something similar is going on with Trump. It doesn't matter what orders he gives because they will not be carried out, with his failure to keep trannies out of the military being exhibit A. The top brass that he supposedly commands simply ignored him.

Blogger James Dixon December 09, 2018 4:06 PM  

> But I honestly don't see a way out of our current mess.

Outside of divine intervention, there probably is no peaceful way out of "our current mess".

The only hope of that was a peaceful separation. For whatever reason, the left has decided they're not going to go that route. So war it will be.

Blogger tuberman December 09, 2018 4:07 PM  

Dirk Manly wrote:(((Schiff))) is a member of the (((Rothschild))) banking family.

That right there tells you why he's the one delivering the message, not some other Democrat who isn't a member of that family.


Yep, those who talk the loudest. This is pitiful, as these clowns have already tried to assassinate him numerous times. So some future threat is almost hollow. The (((Schiff))) family is corrupt as the Roths, but there is the P-family over them all.

Threats like these are made only in arrogant desperation. Roy Cohn was indeed PDJT's mentor.

Blogger Lazarus December 09, 2018 4:09 PM  

Hammerli280 wrote:Trump needs to do more than put Andrew Jackson's picture on the wall.

The day after Van Buren was elected president, Jackson took the time to reflect on his own presidency with a friend. When asked if he had any regrets about the last eight years, this was his response: “[That] I didn't shoot Henry Clay and I didn't hang John C. Calhoun.”

Blogger Crew December 09, 2018 4:11 PM  

Meanwhile, the French are pissed at Trump:

https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2018/12/09/france-trump-accuses-politics-yellow-vest-protests/

Blogger doctrev December 09, 2018 4:11 PM  

Mark Stoval wrote:@50Is that really all that bad an idea to have?



God is vital, true, but what you said was that you can't see a way out of this mess. To me, and to a lot of other people, that's not just wrong but bizarre. The Trump Administration has been considerably more successful than many other revolutions, and unlike them has been remarkably non-violent. Thus far.

I'm astonished that his political enemies are -still- trying to wear his ego down, that's like trying to destroy Mount Rushmore with a chisel. It's more of a dire warning to any Americans thinking of genuinely supporting the Administration, but it's even less likely to work on aggressive government-haters and American nationalists.

I wish people would realize that Trump is preparing the cultural battlespace for war, but is trying to keep the moral edge that is critical to 4GW. Between the firing of Christians in Virginia for being insufficiently pro-trans (no, these dumbasses have not read A Man for All Seasons), vast economic success, and the open lawlessness of Team Democrat, I'm confident that a sufficient number of Americans have been radicalized.

Blogger doctrev December 09, 2018 4:12 PM  

Crew wrote:Meanwhile, the French are pissed at Trump:

https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2018/12/09/france-trump-accuses-politics-yellow-vest-protests/


The government of France is angry. Actual Frenchmen, by all accounts, are quite happy for the support of their movement.

Blogger Noah B. December 09, 2018 4:13 PM  


You must have missed the part where I pointed out that we need God to get out of this mess and he is all powerful. I am saying we can't do this without God's intervention.

Is that really all that bad an idea to have?


Yes, it is. God has given us all the tools we need to care for ourselves, our families, and our nation. We need to be using those to the best of our ability instead of waiting passively for God's intervention.

Blogger Cataline Sergius December 09, 2018 4:18 PM  

Seriously, do none of these half-men remember why Caesar decided he had no choice but to "cross the Rubicon?"

Prosecuting men after they left office is what brought down the Roman Republic.

I'd ask, how can they not see the disaster they are bringing down on their head? But I already know.

This clique of American deepstate oligarchs is no different from the Viri Boni (the so called "Good Men") of Caesar's day.

When all is said and done, the only people that are loyal to them is...each other. But they are so lost in their admiration for each other that they just can't see it.

Consequently, they are missing the biggest lesson of all. Gaius Julius Caesar attempted to reform the system that was trying to destroy him, after it succeeded...his successors didn't try at all.

Whose hands will be nailed to the doors of the Capital this time, I wonder?

Blogger Lazarus December 09, 2018 4:26 PM  

Imperator Rex Not Concerned

Blogger doctrev December 09, 2018 4:27 PM  

Cataline Sergius wrote:
Consequently, they are missing the biggest lesson of all. Gaius Julius Caesar attempted to reform the system that was trying to destroy him, after it succeeded...his successors didn't try at all.


Ugh. The knowledge that Caesar didn't survive his trust in the Republic's laws is why I don't use this as an example. At least with Caesar you had strong figures like Antony and Octavian waiting in the wings, while both the military and people of Rome were strongly behind Caesar and his heirs. I'm not sure anyone currently available on our side has Trump's gravitas, whereas backstabbers like Cuck Tarlson will happily shank the President at the first opportunity.

For that reason and others, I'm hoping we don't need the Caesar example.

Blogger Unknown December 09, 2018 4:46 PM  

@65 I'm not sure anyone currently available on our side has Trump's gravitas, whereas backstabbers like Cuck Tarlson will happily shank the President at the first opportunity.

Trump has no loyalty which is why he inspires none in others. There are consequences to firing your Secretary of State via Twitter while he's on the toilet.

Trump fans are out there in the streets getting beaten, bloodied, knocked out and everything else and Trump doesn't even lift a single finger to help them. And he's the head of the whole damn executive branch.

And now he expects his voters to go out and risk their jobs, families, prison time and even lives to protect him? Good luck!

Blogger Dirk Manly December 09, 2018 5:10 PM  

Trump is loyal to those who are loyal to him, which includes doing the job which you signed up to do.

Failing to do what you signed up to do for him is disloyal in itself.

Real estate is always tied up with politics. I'm sure he's learned by now that any subordinate, now matter how loyal at the start, can be turned by agents working for the opposition. This is why he has no qualms with dismissing people -- sure, you're failure to do X might be due to lack of ability ... or it might just be due to having been secretly turned, and therefore a matter of lack of will to follow instructions.

Blogger Dirk Manly December 09, 2018 5:12 PM  

And Trump already pardoned one General who was taken down in the witch-hunt. He's been letting Manafort twist in the wind, because it appears that Manafort was a plant.

Blogger tuberman December 09, 2018 5:25 PM  

Dirk, Yes, Manafort was one of six plants. The forces aligned against Trump were/are international so much patience was needed to get them to expose themselves.

It really is getting close to done, as I'm sure you know.

Blogger tuberman December 09, 2018 5:33 PM  

As has been stated earlier, the (((Schiff))) family has been a hidden aristocratic family in the USA that is part of a elite group of behind the scenes families that run everything and are use to getting away with anything they do, or they are beyond the laws, thus the arrogance. Yet he is full of crap, and he and others like him will go down this time.

Blogger tuberman December 09, 2018 5:36 PM  

BTW, the (((Schiff))) family and others like them have been running things since the founding of this country, or for over two and a half centuries, so this rot is old.

Blogger Dad29 December 09, 2018 5:48 PM  

@28: with Catholic super babe Melania on her knees in church with her lace shawl in praying for Trump daily,

Ah, but does she pray in LATIN??

Blogger Crew December 09, 2018 5:56 PM  

And Trump already pardoned one General who was taken down in the witch-hunt. He's been letting Manafort twist in the wind, because it appears that Manafort was a plant.

And there are credible claims Manafort stole from the Trump Campaign.

Blogger Uncle Max December 09, 2018 5:56 PM  

This is the Deep State, the GoPe and the Democrats speaking via Schiff... You'd better not actually go after Clinton or Obama.. or else. We'll ruin you after your term is over. Shot across the bow. If I'm correct in this, their warning will likely fail to muzzle Trump.... but Trump will likely let it be known, he'll trade prosecutions for something. We'll see.

and I don't even trust building at wall at this point. The Democrats will just have ceremonies where they blow big holes in in as they welcome the new open-borders policy! I hope Trump nails the shit out of Obama and the Clintons.. and reorganizes the 9th Circuit.. and more. Burn it down... cause if you don't, when they win again, the left are going to go apeshit.

Blogger ThatWouldBeTelling December 09, 2018 5:57 PM  

@67 Dirk Manly:

Trump is loyal to those who are loyal to him, which includes doing the job which you signed up to do.

Perhaps, and that can excuse various firings and their methods. But letting the Left beat bloody those who voted for him? As @66 John Calla said, which you failed to respond to:

Trump fans are out there in the streets getting beaten, bloodied, knocked out and everything else and Trump doesn't even lift a single finger to help them. And he's the head of the whole damn executive branch.

And now he expects his voters to go out and risk their jobs, families, prison time and even lives to protect him? Good luck!


A significant suppression in election activism is suspected as being one of the reasons for the outcome of last month's election. We now realize the government he's nominally in control of has Antifa's back, not ours, and certainly isn't suppressing general Democratic party violence. Or brazen, open vote stealing.

What have we, the base that elected him, failed to do? Besides of course just now a substantial fraction voting for Democrats instead of GOPe candidates? Which will make absolutely no difference in his ability to get his promised agenda passed, seeing as how the GOPe hates it just as much as the Democrats.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother December 09, 2018 5:59 PM  

These are indeed the times that try men's souls

Blogger Dirk Manly December 09, 2018 6:18 PM  

@72

"Ah, but does she pray in LATIN??"

Did Jesus?

Blogger Dirk Manly December 09, 2018 6:20 PM  

@74

"This is the Deep State, the GoPe and the Democrats speaking via Schiff... You'd better not actually go after Clinton or Obama.. or else. We'll ruin you after your term is over. Shot across the bow. If I'm correct in this, their warning will likely fail to muzzle Trump.... but Trump will likely let it be known, he'll trade prosecutions for something. We'll see."

At sea, a shot across the bow is a signal, "I'm stronger than you -- come to a halt immediately."

In this situation, a shot across the bow is a bluff. If they had an actual plan, they would be implementing it BEFORE Trump could reveal their treachery.

Blogger Crush Limbraw December 09, 2018 6:20 PM  

The next 6 months will tell whether the G-E is for real or just another Republican.

Blogger Kat December 09, 2018 6:22 PM  

Pretty sure Trump knows that the world won't have a cave deep enough to hide him if he fails at this mission. I think the man genuinely loves his children and grandchildren and for that reason alone I believe that he is going to do what needs to be done. Right now he's trying to work within the system. Heaven help up if that ever changes.

Blogger LES December 09, 2018 6:24 PM  

As Pat Buchanan opined, Congress is Israeli occupied territory. What does Israel want to make all this go away? War with Russia and Iran to force them out of Syria for Greater Israel? What does the US have to gain by starving the people of Yemen?

Blogger Dirk Manly December 09, 2018 6:25 PM  

We'll see what kind of shape PANTIFA is in a year from now. That will reveal much. For now, I don't think the west coast PANTIFA have been pursued because the 9th Circus Court is a lost cause, and any successful prosecution will end up being overturned by the 9th Circus -- and worse, setting precedent. If/when PANTIFA's protectors are removed is the real question.

Blogger ThatWouldBeTelling December 09, 2018 6:28 PM  

@79 Crush Limbraw:

The next 6 months will tell whether the G-E is for real or just another Republican.

It's clear he's not "just another Republican", not even Reagan dealt out as much damage to the MSM as he has. Their loss of status is both huge and permanent, at least this side of the likely coming civil war or partition.

Blogger ThatWouldBeTelling December 09, 2018 6:45 PM  

@82 Dirk Manly:

We'll see what kind of shape PANTIFA is in a year from now.

At a certain point, exhortations to "just wait" cease to be credible. We're about two weeks away from that for the Wall, and absent the Storm, or a dramatic turnaround in the DoJ lead by a former G.H.W. Bush Attorney General, we already know the story for Antifa. They've got absolute protection from it, while his supporters are being prosecuted for defending themselves from them. And none of the latter in the Ninth Circuit.

It doesn't take this long to start taking down such groups, especially when they started their violent crimes, international in scope from what I've heard about the Left Coast Black Bloc, years ago. They're allowed to do their thing for whatever reasons, very possibly because they're the inchoate paramilitary wing of the Democratic party.

For a particularly telling example, see their brutalization of Piyush "Bobby" Jindal's chief fundraiser, who required quite a bit of attention from orthopedic surgeons after he and other people at his level escaped out the back way with their security from the besieged New Orleans restaurant, while his staffers were left on their own. No followup, I don't expect that sort of loyalty from either establishment Republicans or dot Indians, but it was still a very stark thing to follow.

Blogger Dirk Manly December 09, 2018 7:09 PM  

We should see the beginning of some corrective action in the next few months. If not, then time for Plan C.

Blogger Doktor Jeep December 09, 2018 7:09 PM  

Looks like the corrupt GOP is going to try and primary Trump and ensure a sure loser goes up against Hillary in 2020.
Anybody thinking that's not possible, I have witnessed firsthand, 2 times, how the GOP will select who gets to be the nominee before the primaries - heck even before the caucuses and county conventions - and then breaks the laws and carries out every last dirty trick in the book, illegal dirty tricks that their fellow leftists in the courts will ensure they never get in trouble for.
I have seen tricks range from "what ballots? Oh I don't know where they are!" to outright violence with fake witnesses to tell the cops lies and get the good guys arrested.
If I go to the distric caucus during the winter, usually in February, I'll see empty chairs, empty tables, and not one young face in the entire room.

This is why every day I actually say out loud "looks like a lot of people are going to have to die before anybody learns anything".

Blogger Uncle Max December 09, 2018 7:15 PM  

@86 Romney says Hey! No doubt in my mind they're thinking right now of a primary challenge to Trump. Peace in Korea and maybe withdrawl from A-Stan in the next 14 months would likely kill that idea. All the " trump " cards are in the foreign policy arena. We'll see.

Blogger Unknown December 09, 2018 7:59 PM  

@82 We'll see what kind of shape PANTIFA is in a year from now.

You mean two years isn't enough for you? Maybe Trump can get started on his agenda just before his last month in office?

Turns out the concern trolls like Ann Coulter and Cernovich were right on the money from the get-go: the only path here from day one was for us to hold Trump's feet to the fire and scream bloody murder when President Trump wasn't acting in accord with Campaign Trump (which started early). That strategy never seemed to take root with the MAGA crowd though, who were content with reminiscing about how bad Hillary lost and stewing in their own confidence that every screw-up was actually a spectacular hidden 3-D chess move.

No "politician" in modern American history has had the kind of connection with his voters like Trump had in the 2016 campaign. I've never seen anything like it. We had a huge lever there that we could have used. And maybe we still have it. Maybe not.

But fear not. Everybody is worried about the changing demographics. Well we all might as well stop dreaming and admit it now: democracy will have to end if America is to survive. I know many will be offended at the thought. But not me. My ancestors both survived and thrived under many forms of government.

Blogger crescent wrench December 09, 2018 8:18 PM  

"Trump is loyal to those who are loyal to him"

Does this include his base, especially on social media, where they have all been un-personed?

How about all the loyalists he's allowed to be purged by establishment apparatchiks?

How about his voters, who have been denied police protection from Antifa at his and other rallies?

It really should not be hard for the President to have his DOJ follow the very open money trails, endorsements, and even target selections done by senior Democrats to Antifa terrorists and lock them up under the insurrection act.

Gee, I wonder why the rust belt ignored his pleas in 2018.

Blogger Unknown December 09, 2018 8:34 PM  

Trump isn't go to use this threat as a call to action to drain the swamp. The only swamp draining he cares about is stopping the Mueller probe. However, he is going to make some hard hitting tweets about the Deep State.

Unless the Democrats overpay their hands to the extent that they turn out independents, threatening Trump and his family with jail is smart. Every Democrat I meet is in a frenzy about orange man bad and going to jail. Since Trump doesn't pose a threat they can go after him to keep their base fired up and chip away at independent support while teaching a lesson to future republicans to never again cross the Jews.

Blogger tz December 09, 2018 8:43 PM  

Trump needs to go thermonuclear on all the Wall Street banksters, the deep state lobbyists and pols, and the Clinton Foundation.

And Jeff Ep and the as of yet unindicted pedophiles who flew the Lolita express. That would drain the swamp quickly.

Blogger ThatWouldBeTelling December 09, 2018 8:45 PM  

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Blogger Ominous Cowherd December 09, 2018 8:48 PM  

Dirk Manly wrote:In this situation, a shot across the bow is a bluff. If they had an actual plan, they would be implementing it BEFORE Trump could reveal their treachery.

If Trump never calls their bluff, that shot across the bow is going to look a lot like an actual plan. ``He'll declassify the memos if they investigate him'' sounds a lot like someone who's running a counter-bluff, not someone who is about to lower the boom.

We keep on hoping that Trump isn't actually ineffectual, that he's actually willing to destroy the uredemable, that he's not going to be forever content with setting up dominoes. Hope isn't a plan, and it's looking less and less likely with each passing day that Trump is ever going to knock those dominoes over.

We keep hoping that all this time-wasting is preparation for something big, prepping the Normies for jailed politicians, prepping Guantanamo to house them and so on. Yet we keep on seeing Trump not doing things that would accomplish that, like prosecuting antifa and prosecuting election fraud.

Trump still has two years to drain the swamp and build the wall. After his utter failure to prevent or punish blatant election fraud last month, I doubt that he'll accomplish much more than he already has. We would do well to start working out our next moves on the assumption that Trump has shot his wad. If he pulls it off at the last moment, that will be wonderful, but there is no downside to being prepared for the worst.

Blogger Dirk Manly December 09, 2018 8:48 PM  

January and February 2019 will reveal a lot. Either Trump has his ducks in a row by then, or he never will.

Blogger tz December 09, 2018 8:50 PM  

Meanwhile Clueless gobalists insist on democracy but not the "mob" - and consider "unreasonable" any who disagree.

If Macron's policies were put to a vote of the people, they would be rejected.

Globalists and leftists shift between democracy, the legislature, the executive, orthe courts depending on which one give them what they want

Blogger tuberman December 09, 2018 8:55 PM  

Dirk Manly wrote:January and February 2019 will reveal a lot. Either Trump has his ducks in a row by then, or he never will.

I agree, except, I figure sometime between mid-February to mid-March of 2019, which I projected in late 2017.

Blogger Crew December 09, 2018 9:03 PM  

Hmmm:

BREAKING: According to congressional sources Representative Adam Schiff used tax payer money to reach a sexual harassment settlement with a 19 year old male in 2013.

https://twitter.com/WeAreOne_Q/status/1071875754886135810

Perhaps he is worried about the various executive orders President Trump has signed.

Blogger bodenlose Schweinerei December 09, 2018 9:52 PM  

We'll see what kind of shape PANTIFA is in a year from now.

They'll be just fine, just like the three years previous.

The question is, what kind of shape will the economy be in? It's already show enormous cracks. How's Trumpy going to do in 2020 with no wall, leftist hit squads roaming the streets and the economy totally in the shitter? "Wait 'til 2022, we're gonna be sooooo WINNNING!"?

Blogger Ominous Cowherd December 09, 2018 10:32 PM  

Dirk Manly wrote:January and February 2019 will reveal a lot. Either Trump has his ducks in a row by then, or he never will.

tuberman wrote:I agree, except, I figure sometime between mid-February to mid-March of 2019, which I projected in late 2017.

I wonder how late he can really wait, before it's just too late? I would have thought that October of '18 would be the optimal time to jail a bunch of elected and appointed Leftists, then follow it up in late November by jailing a bunch more Leftists for election fraud.

Tuberman, what's your reasoning for Feb/March?

Also, even if there is good reason to wait for the main event, why in the world would he not fry some small fish along the way? Lock up a bunch of antifa dudes, starting with bike lock prof. Lock up election workers who engaged in fraud. Out of 60,000 indictments, surely there are a few that can be opened before Christmas.

Blogger Were-Puppy December 09, 2018 10:39 PM  

@37 Dirk Manly
(((Schiff))) is a member of the (((Rothschild))) banking family.

That right there tells you why he's the one delivering the message, not some other Democrat who isn't a member of that family.
---

Bingo.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd December 09, 2018 10:52 PM  

Random #57 wrote:Trump fans are out there in the streets getting beaten, bloodied, knocked out and everything else and Trump doesn't even lift a single finger to help them. And he's the head of the whole damn executive branch.

Evidently Trump is no fan of Trump fans. He is a law-and-order civnat boomer. He never brawled in the street - why, that's illegal! Trump is loyal to his people. We aren't his people.

Random #57 wrote:...absent the Storm, or a dramatic turnaround in the DoJ lead by a former G.H.W. Bush Attorney General, we already know the story for Antifa. They've got absolute protection from it...

I suspect Trump is focused on reforming the current system, and is very unwilling to actually drain the swamp. Just for a start, any official support he has comes from swamp creatures! Also, as I just said, he is a law-and-order civnat boomer. It wouldn't be lawful or orderly to actually break things that need breaking, like the CIA or the State Department.

Kat wrote:I think the man genuinely loves his children and grandchildren and for that reason alone I believe that he is going to do what needs to be done. Right now he's trying to work within the system. Heaven help up if that ever changes.

I think the man believes he can make a deal with the devils. He's willing to do anything at all, except break the system. We are going to need to increase the disorder to achieve any lasting order, and I don't think that nice old grandpa has it in him to actually do what needs to be done. Trump is a statesman, but we need a revolutionary. Trump is a Coolidge and we need a combo of Patrick Henry and George Washington.

Trump has opened the door for us to elect nationalists. Trump has bought us some time to do that. We need to look for a real extremist to get behind in 2020. As we look, we should surely pray that Trump gets in touch with his inner Andrew Jackson.

Blogger Were-Puppy December 09, 2018 11:00 PM  

@71 tuberman
BTW, the (((Schiff))) family and others like them have been running things since the founding of this country, or for over two and a half centuries, so this rot is old.
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Schiff was sent here in 1913 by Rothschild to get that central bank set up. Much more evils than that can be laid at the Schiff family feet as well.

Blogger crescent wrench December 09, 2018 11:01 PM  

@101

"Trump has opened the door for us to elect nationalists."

If you think any decent patriot is going to risk a run for office after what Trump allowed Mueller to do, I have a bridge to sell you.

No sane person who can lead a peaceful, productive life will ever run for office again unless the next 24 months are nothing but wall to wall trials of the people who did this to his campaign staff, ending up with most of the DOJ's 7th floor in prison.

That's not going to happen, because Trump wasn't even willing to declassify the memo to break this scandal wide open.

We've gone from a nation that demands resignation for a minor break-in by paid thugs to one which accepts and gives control of congress to a party that turns the DOJ into a one-sided political weapon, destroying 400 years of jurisprudence (yes, even predating the bill of rights) to do it.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd December 09, 2018 11:05 PM  

wahr01 wrote:No sane person who can lead a peaceful, productive life will ever run for office again ...

We don't need a sane person who can lead a peaceful, productive life. That's Trump, and that's not what we need.

Blogger justaguy December 09, 2018 11:05 PM  

Can't see how it can ever get any better? Man do you kids not have perspective. the 1970s was bad. Little Billy Carter was president and over 1 dozen countries went commie, the elite had given up and we going commie, double digit interest rates, inflation wages going down etc-- a real shit hole... We were about to lose the cold war by loss of will and dems collusion. One guy turned it around and gave us a few decades to fix things.

Here is a thought-- is Trump waiting to declassify all of the documents until 2020?

Is Trump that guy now-- I don't know. Idiot Jeff Sessions backstabbed him in the name of honor. Congress repubs will not give him much. But he us at least fighting. WTF-- even the president can't do it alone. He needs support.

Hey, I am sure some historian can find other times in history when things were trash and another leader came out and fixed things for a generation or so. I'm not counting things over yet-- we might gain another decade or two on the statist with the right movement, the right leader, the right people.

Blogger crescent wrench December 09, 2018 11:07 PM  

@104

Ah.. and you expect the campaign funds to come from where, exactly?

Faith Goldy is instrumental of what will happen to anyone who does not already have a multi-billion-dollar megaphone of their own:

Locked-out and un-personed top to bottom, deprived utterly of oxygen.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd December 09, 2018 11:13 PM  

justaguy wrote:Here is a thought-- is Trump waiting to declassify all of the documents until 2020?

Besides made-for-tv fake dramatics, what is the benefit of waiting for 2020?

Even if there is much sense in delaying the opening of the main attraction, why not take care of business along the way? Why not prosecute election fraud? Wouldn't that teach the normies that election fraud is real? Wouldn't that demoralize and terrify the Left? Wouldn't that reassure the Right? Isn't election fraud the one thing that even the Leftist spin machine can't make acceptable to the Normies?

There will never be better optics for the Right or a better teachable moment than Broward County Florida, November 2018. If Trump's DOJ can't climb that tiny step, what can they ever do?

Blogger crescent wrench December 09, 2018 11:15 PM  

"There will never be better optics for the Right or a better teachable moment than Broward County Florida, November 2018"

You apparently haven't heard of the nation-wide "ballot harvesting" that was going on.

see ( @33 )

Blogger Ominous Cowherd December 09, 2018 11:29 PM  

wahr01 wrote:You apparently haven't heard of the nation-wide "ballot harvesting" that was going on.

That sort of proves my point, doesn't it. There were plenty of prosecutable violations of black letter law that simply can't be spun as anything but absolutely unacceptable, plainly criminal, betrayals of the public trust. The only thing the narrative-meisters could do would be to try to ignore it. Trump's DOJ not only couldn't pick the low hangimg fruit, they couldn't even pick up the windfalls.

Blogger crescent wrench December 09, 2018 11:34 PM  

@109

"There were plenty of prosecutable violations of black letter law "

Unfortunately not.
In California they LEGALIZED it.
So unless there are clauses in the federal voting rights act, there will need to be a huge lawfare effort.

Either way, this IS illegal in many states and you actually have Democrats in NC calling this voter fraud there.

If I were Trump i'd be coordinating a talking-point of nothing but decrying voter fraud every time a GOP person is on public airwaves, constantly segueing into it no matter what the subject is the way democrats did with muh kids in cages.

I'd be decrying the elections as fundamentally compromised, all seats "flipped" after election night as illegitimate, and militantly attacking ANYONE who says otherwise as a traitor.

The population is with them on this. 70% of America wants immigration reduced/stopped.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd December 09, 2018 11:40 PM  

wahr01 wrote:Ah.. and you expect the campaign funds to come from where, exactly?

No clue. We have two years to work something out.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd December 09, 2018 11:50 PM  

wahr01 wrote:@109

"There were plenty of prosecutable violations of black letter law "

Unfortunately not.

In California they LEGALIZED it.

So unless there are clauses in the federal voting rights act, there will need to be a huge lawfare effort.

Either way, this IS illegal in many states and you actually have Democrats in NC calling this voter fraud there.


The optics are impeccable. The precedent has been established that law doesn't matter, so no reason to let that stop us. There are emenations from penumbras to consider!

wahr01 wrote:@109If I were Trump i'd be coordinating a talking-point of nothing but decrying voter fraud every time a GOP person is on public airwaves, constantly segueing into it no matter what the subject is the way democrats did with muh kids in cages.


That would be effective, if the GOPe were on Trump's side and willing to do it. The GOPe hates Trump and wants him dead even more than they want us dead, so it's not going to be easy.

wahr01 wrote:@109
I'd be decrying the elections as fundamentally compromised, all seats "flipped" after election night as illegitimate, and militantly attacking ANYONE who says otherwise as a traitor.


That sounds like something an American Executive Branch could do fairly effectively in war time, similar to what Lincoln did. Jail detractors, jail enemies, jail judges who say habeus corpus. It's the kind of thing that Trump isn't going to do. He's not what we usually think of as a cuck, but it's looking more and more as if he'd rather lose than win the wrong way.

Blogger crescent wrench December 09, 2018 11:58 PM  

@112
" Jail detractors, jail enemies, jail judges who say habeus corpus. It's the kind of thing that Trump isn't going to do"

Trump is a boomer.
Between ties to Antifa and Sanctuary City/State policies in defiance of federal law, the insurrection and patriot acts would give him full legal authority to begin arrests.

It's my understanding this Bush Senior AG has a history of pushing the limits of executive power. Let's hope HE is willing to put down his foot, because he was VERY aggressive in the closing years of Bush Senior's presidency.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd December 10, 2018 12:38 AM  

wahr01 wrote:It's my understanding this Bush Senior AG has a history of pushing the limits of executive power. Let's hope HE is willing to put down his foot, because he was VERY aggressive in the closing years of Bush Senior's presidency.

Sounds great. Let's pray for Trump's success.

Blogger SciVo December 10, 2018 1:00 AM  

tz wrote:Globalists and leftists shift between democracy, the legislature, the executive, orthe courts depending on which one give them what they want

You know, another word for someone who only respects your wishes when you say "yes" is "rapist". How long do they think they can skate by with just a flimsy pretense of a reluctant nod to the meaningless form of the hollow rituals of the consent of the governed? Their power is already illegitimate; it just hasn't been taken from them yet.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd December 10, 2018 1:05 AM  

SciVo wrote:You know, another word for someone who only respects your wishes when you say "yes" is "rapist". How long do they think they can skate by with just a flimsy pretense of a reluctant nod to the meaningless form of the hollow rituals of the consent of the governed?

As long as we let them.

Blogger Mandos December 10, 2018 1:37 AM  

I like Rex but he is victim of his own confirmation bias. Mueller is never going to let Trump off the hook without something that can ensure the perennity of his destructive mission. The Fake News media are literally holding half of the population hostage and will do anything to kill the evidence once it's out. Doubts still linger over the capability of the two key law enforcement structures of the country to do what needs to be done once the evidence is released. And from January onwards the law as applied to Trump will be whatever a hostile Congress says it is.

The God-Emperor is walking on thin ice and many signs are suggesting that he is not as firmly in control as Q or our valiant SpyGate researchers think he is.

Blogger One Deplorable DT December 10, 2018 2:06 AM  

It was a mistake for Trump to ever allow this investigation to occur. As soon as Mueller's team was assembled Trump needed to go public with their history and clear connections to Team Democrat, then fire all of them for bias. For good measure he could have brought to everyone's attention the 6 month sweetheart plea deal that Mueller gave to David Asimov on freaking CP charges. Or better yet, fire Mueller because of a "...pending investigation regarding Muller's connections to CP."

Failing that, the moment it was proven that the dossier was fake Trump could have, again, fired the entire team ending the investigation. If the document which started the investigation was a fraud then the basis for the investigation is gone, and no honest investigator would continue fishing.

What was the worst that could happen? Libs screaming on Twitter that Trump was hiding something? Cuckservatives claiming that this violated their principles? All of this is happening any way. It's no different than apologizing to a SJW.

Now there is a real danger that Mueller will entrap Trump on some BS charge. No one is immune to this. Read Three Felonies a Day by Harvey Silverglate. Show Mueller the man, he will show you the crime.

Even if they can't get an impeachment with the Republicans holding the Senate, and even if they can't put Trump himself in jail, it will greatly diminish Trump's political capital and...with all the ballot harvesting...put 2020 in danger. It also drains his team with people wondering if they're next in the Muller witch hunt.

Firing Muller now would be a real problem. In the beginning it would have been a single news cycle.

Blogger Gettimothy December 10, 2018 2:32 AM  

Q on the South Pole.

https://qntmpkts.keybase.pub/data/media/b6c9027d01a8ffea35d2b4c05ceac9282368ab6bc4134e825509010b1c08ad4b.jpg

Epic.

Blogger One Deplorable DT December 10, 2018 2:43 AM  

@49 - It is hard, darn hard, to look at all the available evidence and not come to the conclusion that the USA and most of the West is a "dead man walking".

Trump is not our savior. He is the result of a growing fire across the west of citizens against elites who believe themselves to be gods. Even if Mueller and the Democrats were to succeed in impeaching and imprisoning Trump, it would not put out this fire. It would in fact cause the fire to grow more rapidly than it has.

It is a mistake to think that Trump can solve all our problems while we sit at home watching Fox News. Likewise it is a mistake to think that a failure on the part of Trump seals the fate of the west. He is a man, not the movement. Forces greater than Trump will shape the future of the west. Right now those forces include the people who elected Trump against incredible odds and incredible voter fraud, not to mention the people rioting across France.

In the U.S. we may yet preserve our way of life peacefully through politics. I hope we can. I pray we can. I pray Trump plays a pivotal role in making this happen. That the Mueller witch hunt amounts to nothing. Or even better, ultimately gives Trump the tools he needs to truly drain the swamp.

But if we can't solve these problems peacefully, it's a guarantee that this will go to a war before or during the impending bankruptcy of the Federal government. Given the demographics of the U.S., its heavily armed population, and a military which hates the elites, such a war ends in victory, or in the dissolution of the Federal government. Which is also a victory for the red states.

None of us want to live through hard times. But keep something in mind: even the Beast cannot take full control of Earth before God removes his own. And even his reign will be short lived. In the long run there is only one way this ends and one rightful ruler of this planet. The forces who set themselves against the Son of God are the ones who are "dead men walking." So stop concluding that it's really over this time.

@62 - Yes, it is. God has given us all the tools we need to care for ourselves, our families, and our nation. We need to be using those to the best of our ability instead of waiting passively for God's intervention.

Thank you. I needed to read this for personal reasons as much as some need to read it for national ones. I do pray for God's protection of Trump. But I also do not want to stand before God someday and have Him say "Why did you pray to me, yet do nothing yourself?"

Blogger Unknown December 10, 2018 3:58 AM  

Trump may simply be am embodiment of the Peter Principle: one rises in an organization until he reaches his level of incompetence. Trump excelled in real estate, reality TV and campaigning. He may simply be out of his depth as President.

A perfect example of his incompetence is how Pompeo felt comfortable hiring an outspoken Never Trumper as a top aid. Try that as a VP in a company and the CEO will have you out of the door at the first opportunity.

Blogger ThatWouldBeTelling December 10, 2018 4:25 AM  

@101 Ominous Cowherd:

Random #57 wrote:

@66 John Calla, actually:

Trump fans are out there in the streets getting beaten, bloodied, knocked out and everything else and Trump doesn't even lift a single finger to help them. And he's the head of the whole damn executive branch.

Evidently Trump is no fan of Trump fans. He is a law-and-order civnat boomer. He never brawled in the street - why, that's illegal! Trump is loyal to his people. We aren't his people.


It's way beyond street brawls, during the election and now. People attending his rallies were bloodied during the election, in part through explicit Democratic party action, can't remember if that's happened since then. Everyone from "fans" to campaign workers to MSM supporters like Tucker Carlson and his family are feeling the wrath of Antifa and "normal" Democrats doing more violence than normal, now openly being egged on by top figures in the party. Besides taunting Maxine Waters on Twitter, what's Trump's response to all this?

As John Calla closed saying "And now he expects his voters to go out and risk their jobs, families, prison time and even lives to protect him? Good luck!" We won't, because loyalty has to work both ways, because he's allowed the costs to become too high.

To the point it's suspected that the election last month was in part lost because the violence suppressed normal election activities. Again, who's going to take the risks when we have seen that the government Trump is nominally in charge of will take the side of those bloodying us, when we know those people are only one mistake from taking a life? And knowing that government will go after us with a rusty spoon if we defend ourselves?

Blogger ThatWouldBeTelling December 10, 2018 4:40 AM  

@118 One Deplorable DT:

Even if they can't get an impeachment with the Republicans holding the Senate, and even if they can't put Trump himself in jail, it will greatly diminish Trump's political capital

I wouldn't bet on that, the GOPe hates him as much as the Democrats, they just can't be as open about it. Won't bet on him and his family staying out of jail either.

But the last point you quoted is critical. Trump's allowing his political capital to be destroyed by Mueller, which is the exact opposite of what's required to avoid a conviction after impeachment, for a successful Storm, Q level, or just what's supposed to be Trump's DoJ starting to prosecute the Democrat's many crimes, especially election related ones.

His failures to prosecute, or do much of anything else he promised in the campaign, is also causing his political capital to dissipate. His embrace of gun control is downright shredding his political capital with a critical segment of his base. So does letting so many of the people who were part of his campaign, or otherwise supported him during it, suffer ruin at the hands of Mueller. We can see he's either incapable of protecting them, or indifferent to their fate. Even an eventual pardon won't fix what's already been done to them. Part of the loyalty issue we're discussing.

As VD was reported to say, we need "more than a Twitter in Chief".

Blogger One Deplorable DT December 10, 2018 5:04 AM  

@122 - I remember arguing with a friend about antifa after Milo was canceled at UC Berkeley due to violent protests.

I said that Trump should inform the campus and city that Milo would be speaking there under full police protection. And if they did not immediately and fully comply, martial law would be declared, the CA National Guard would be federalized, and Milo would speak under protection of U.S. armed forces.

He's not normally a cuckservative but his bowtie was spinning that night. Trump can't do that! States rights! Military on our soil! What if someone was shot?! To hell he can't. If Eisenhower could do it to force integration on an Arkansas school then Trump can do it to protect the 1st Amendment. And if some antifa members get shot in the process, so be it. They're openly, willfully, violently breaking the highest laws of our land.

The violent left could have been squashed with one or two clear demonstrations of Federal power. Now they believe they can get away with their nonsense because they do. Repeatedly.

I like Trump. But I sometimes think he's just not mean enough to confront some of the forces tearing at this country.

Again, who's going to take the risks when we have seen that the government Trump is nominally in charge of will take the side of those bloodying us, when we know those people are only one mistake from taking a life? And knowing that government will go after us with a rusty spoon if we defend ourselves?

Numbers are everything. The Bundy Ranch standoff ended peacefully because the Feds knew they were surrounded and weren't going home to their families if they tried their normal tactics.

If Trump won't step up and protect the 1A rights of conservatives, and if things continue to get worse with time, then eventually conservatives will show up with numbers and firepower that nullify both antifa's threats of violence and local police power.

Note I said "will show up." Not "need to show up." Not "might show up." Look at France where there isn't even a 2A. If things get bad enough it will happen regardless of whether or not anyone thinks it should.

Blogger One Deplorable DT December 10, 2018 5:11 AM  

@123 - I agree with much of what you said. I don't lose hope over it because Trump is one man and this a battle, not the war (my post @120). But it is disappointing none the less.

The time for action from Trump is now.

Blogger CoolHand December 10, 2018 5:12 AM  

I find it damned amusing that these "Muh Traitor Trump!" threads always reliably bring out the same two or three names that only ever post demoralizing shit, along with a chorus of agreement from folks we've never heard from before, but who've just randomly stopped by to leave pages upon pages of comments detailing how terribly demoralized we should all be.

Best to turn on Trump or quit outright, nothing is ever gonna happen, they're all in it together, it's all a big LARP, ya done been had, etc, etc, etc.

Here's some demoralization right back at ya.

You're wasting your time here.

Your entire "audience" consists of the two or three fools that always populate these threads, and they only listen because it gives them a DOOM boner.

Who did you piss off to get assigned to this place? I mean, the guys who're assigned to shill on 8chan at least get to look at titties every few posts.

Blogger Aaron Swenson December 10, 2018 5:20 AM  

President Cuck will spend $750Bil. on the Pentagon, but where is that dang wall? What a disappointment, and how humorous the fools who still think he's "salvation"

Blogger wreckage December 10, 2018 6:27 AM  

@127. Kneel, heretic, and perhaps there will be mercy.
Perhaps.


Trump is holding to his original line, which was to let this all play out. Take notes. And be thorough in revenge.

Blogger Damelon Brinn December 10, 2018 7:34 AM  

My own take is that the Dems and the Deepstate are trying pressure President Trump into not running for a second term.

Yep. Schiff knows if they don't take out Trump, or at least stalemate him, his own ass is on the line. No one's going to make plea deals to save that bug-eyed weasel. I'd note that threatening to prosecute him after he leaves office is an admission that he won't be impeached. So this is both carrot and stick: back off and we'll let you go away peacefully.

Trump would have to be an idiot to believe they would keep their word, of course. He has no choice but to try to win, for his family's sake if not his own. Schiff hates DJTJr and would love to take him down too.

Blogger ThatWouldBeTelling December 10, 2018 7:58 AM  

@124 One Deplorable DT:

Numbers are everything. The Bundy Ranch standoff ended peacefully because the Feds knew they were surrounded and weren't going home to their families if they tried their normal tactics.

That has to be handled carefully, although if the "target" is Antifa, then maybe the Feds won't be indicting 17 members of the event. But I wouldn't count on it, especially if any blood is shed. See also Charlottesville, where a number of people were openly carrying rifles on all sides, and there are prosecutions galore of those on the Right, almost all for clear self-defense.

Blogger Aaron Swenson December 10, 2018 8:00 AM  

I kneel to no man, especially not More Of The SameTM or the minions that subscribe to it as if it's-new-this-time-for-real-honest. You can go back to beating off to Brawndo commercials now. No one is going to save you.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd December 10, 2018 8:37 AM  

wreckage wrote:Trump is holding to his original line, which was to let this all play out. Take notes. And be thorough in revenge.

Does that mean all the Left has to do is drag this out for two more years?

Blogger Silly but True December 10, 2018 9:10 AM  

In July, Trump placed an order for a whole fckn lot of helicopters...


...The kind that give a lot of people a lot of rides at once:
https://www.upi.com/Boeing-wins-1813-million-contract-for-Chinook-helicopters/6031532090197/

Blogger James Dixon December 10, 2018 10:13 AM  

> The question is, what kind of shape will the economy be in? It's already show enormous cracks.

The stock market is showing enormous cracks. The economy not so much.

> ...ultimately gives Trump the tools he needs to truly drain the swamp.

Oh, the swamp is being drained, albeit slowly. If you want an example look no farther than the Wall Street Journal: https://www.wsj.com/articles/another-high-ranking-fbi-official-to-depart-1543964483

The article is paywalled and archive.is can't get it. But the key quote is this one ""After Mr. Priestap’s departure, none of the high-ranking bureau officials involved in the two investigations will remain with the bureau."

That high a turnover rate isn't normal. People are being removed, just not in the public execution way we might prefer.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd December 10, 2018 10:43 AM  

James Dixon wrote:That high a turnover rate isn't normal. People are being removed, just not in the public execution way we might prefer.

There are some signs that Trump hasn't given up. On the other hand, he definitely hasn't made enough progress to deal with election fraud last November.

James Dixon wrote:Oh, the swamp is being drained, albeit slowly.

Slowly is OK. As we pray for our nation and Trump, we should be howling for those public executions - that will encourage Trump, if he's on the right side, and will terrify the Left regardless.

Too slowly is not OK, and as we howl and pray we should at the same time be making plans for dealing with the fallout if too slowly is what we get.

Blogger crescent wrench December 10, 2018 10:55 AM  

@134

" People are being removed, just not in the public execution way we might prefer."

Optics matter in politics, not in the way SJW's claim but in the "deliver to your base" way.
The rust-belters who expected results are not SEEING them, and they reverted their voting to pre-2016 patterns, allowing for the "margin of fraud" to put democrats into the house.

Blogger OneWingedShark December 10, 2018 12:31 PM  

James Dixon wrote:That high a turnover rate isn't normal. People are being removed, just not in the public execution way we might prefer.
Oerhaps; though I think it would be better to force a knee-jerk violation of Art. 3, Sec. 3 and publicly hang the traitors. There are a couple of ways to go on multi-pronged attacks that would absolutely eviscerate the "business as normal" lobbyist/government corruption, ideally as a day-after-day week of repeated one-two punches that would leave a wake of carnage.

wahr01 wrote:@134 "People are being removed, just not in the public execution way we might prefer."

Optics matter in politics, not in the way SJW's claim but in the "deliver to your base" way.

The rust-belters who expected results are not SEEING them, and they reverted their voting to pre-2016 patterns, allowing for the "margin of fraud" to put democrats into the house.

This. And very much so.
Perhaps the biggest optic-win would be an Orange Jumpsuit Hillary — even if the trials are torpedoed by black-robed tyrants — after the "Lock Her Up1" chant/slogan.

The amusing thing to realize is just how much the Judiciary would be "stepping in it" if they were to torpedo such a trial — it would probably be enough to get a grassroots campaign of the electorate contacting Congress demanding they start dissolving obviously corrupt federal courts, which is perfectly within their purview (see Art. 3, Sec. 1).

James Dixon wrote:> But I honestly don't see a way out of our current mess.

Outside of divine intervention, there probably is no peaceful way out of "our current mess".
The only hope of that was a peaceful separation. For whatever reason, the left has decided they're not going to go that route. So war it will be.

I'm inclined to agree; certainly we won't see the border properly secured until there's been lifeblood shed — this is the result of (a) having so many decades of non-enforcement, (b) government persecution of those willing to defend their land and/or the border, and (c) the multiple "Display Purposes Only" deployments of the National Guard on the border.

Noah B The Savage Gardener wrote:"But I honestly don't see a way out of our current mess."

Given all the options available to us and the various possibilities that are completely beyond our control, that's a remarkable statement. It signals that you're suffering from a limited imagination and giving in to despair. Negative attitudes are widely disliked because they're both counterproductive and infectious.

One of the interesting things is that people who tend to look at things strategically, with "what can go wrong?" in the forefront of their mind, are often labeled 'negative' — this despite how invested into the success of the plan[ning] they are — and sometimes are dismissed as such.

Blogger Noah B. December 10, 2018 3:28 PM  

@OneWingedShark

I've encountered that frequently too. The overly pessimistic are afraid to take anything they perceive as a risk, but the blindly optimistic will almost inevitably walk into a minefield that they didn't see coming. It's best to stay positive but grounded in reality.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd December 10, 2018 6:15 PM  

OneWingedShark wrote:One of the interesting things is that people who tend to look at things strategically, with "what can go wrong?" ...

I've helped manage some big projects. I learned to brainstorm all the ways we could fail, so we could keep those anticipated failures from happening. I also learned that if we are need a Plan B, we need to be working both Plan A and Plan B in parallel. If you wait for A to fail, you're behind the 8-ball.

Blogger James Dixon December 10, 2018 9:07 PM  

> Oerhaps; though I think it would be better to force a knee-jerk violation of Art. 3, Sec. 3 and publicly hang the traitors.

I'd love to see it, but I'm not holding my breath.

However, people are acting like Trump is a failure because he hasn't accomplished a, b, or c. Folks, the alternative was Hillary Goddamn Clinton. Compared to what we'd be facing if she were in office Trump could be a complete failure at everything he tries and I'd still be happy.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd December 10, 2018 9:41 PM  

James Dixon wrote:However, people are acting like Trump is a failure because he hasn't accomplished a, b, or c. Folks, the alternative was Hillary Goddamn Clinton. Compared to what we'd be facing if she were in office Trump could be a complete failure at everything he tries and I'd still be happy.

Trump did us a great service by getting elected. He's done even more since. He's not a failure at all, but at his current pace, he's on track to be not enough. Thus, we need to encourage him to pick up the pace, and we need at the same time to find a much more extreme replacement for just in case he doesn't.

I'm happy with most what he has accomplished, and not at all happy with what he's left undone. It is becoming increasingly apparent that Trump is not of the Right. We knew that in 2015, but we sort of forgot it in 2017, when he hit the ground running and did some very good things.

Trump is still the same civnat boomer we elected because he wasn't a cuckservative GOP insider. He's still the best choice we had in 2016. If he's still the best choice in 2020, let's take steps to ensure that it's because we forced him to up his game, not because he is running against jebito and foam boy.

Blogger inthebriarpatch December 10, 2018 10:54 PM  

Most accurate comment thus far.

Blogger inthebriarpatch December 10, 2018 10:59 PM  

God put Trump in office, Sir.

Blogger inthebriarpatch December 10, 2018 11:03 PM  

Good understands Pidgin.

Blogger inthebriarpatch December 10, 2018 11:09 PM  

You need six more months for to show you that he's not globohomo approved?

If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things?
John 3:12

Blogger inthebriarpatch December 10, 2018 11:12 PM  

Our freedoms will not be preserved via president. As they always have, that must be paid for with blood.

The former only buys us time until we get to the latter.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd December 11, 2018 8:49 AM  

Back to my theme of finding a more extreme replacement for Trump: even if the Q stories all come true in the next few months, we're going to need that replacement no later than 2024. We surely cannot allow a shrubbery to follow him and undo everything, as happened to Reagan.

If we panic early, we can beat the rush.

Blogger SullyRob December 12, 2018 1:36 PM  

James Dixion The US Constitution very clearly defines that Treason is working with Enemies of the United States. You can't invoke it on somebody if there doing something for their own reasons. Then it becomes a whole different criminal process.

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