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Monday, January 07, 2019

Big Bear doesn't take the bait

I could probably learn something from the way Owen Benjamin handles those who are interested in stirring up Internet drama between various personalities with potentially differing opinions.
Next time you talk to Vox Day, would you be interested in stress-testing your conflicting opinions of Dennis Prager? Vox not a fan to say the least?

No. because all his points were valid! I like Prager. I mean, Vox doesn't hate Prager, he just thinks he's a fake nationalist, which he kind of is, according to the strict definition of what nationalist means. And in this world of nonsense, you've kind of got to start, like, words matter! What the word means matters! This whole conflation of state and nation, like a nationalist and a statist, your government is not your nation!

And Vox just is one of those guys that, thankfully, pays very, very close - he's a fucking book editor! He pays very close attention to the definition of words. And when someone says something like "Judeo-Christian values," it drives him crazy. Because Judeo-Christian, do you know what Judeo-Christian means, actually? It means a Jew who became Christian. Andrew Klavan is Judeo-Christian. It doesn't mean Jewish and Christian! That's fucking insane!

I don't know. What do you guys think?

The definition of words is the biggest problem we face.

100 percent. I'm going to start saying Judeo-Islam. It's just as insane. It makes no sense. And people are like, "Jesus was Jewish". That's like saying George Washington was British. It's so intentionally fucking stupid.

No, let me think of a good example of what that would be. Do you guys have any funny examples? Judeo-Buddhist, that's hysterical. I had a great one earlier when I was doing fence work, I just didn't write it down.

George Washington was indeed British. 

To say George Washington was British is intentionally fucking with all of history. He was America's first President. He's debatably the most American dude ever.... I listened to the whole thing. It didn't sound like he was trashing Prager. He was just calling out the guy's vagueness. Like, he's at least misinformed, if not intentionally doing wizardry. Judeo-Christian is not a word. America was not founded on Judeo-Christian values. There's a better argument that America was more founded on Masonic values.
Owen is right. I don't hate my former WND colleague Dennis Prager. I also don't trust him, nor would I recommend Prager U to anyone who wants an objective and reliable account of history, especially American history. Whatever his various strengths and weaknesses might be, they are colored by the fact that he is not an American, he is a Neo-Palestinian whose primary concern is for the Neo-Palestinian people who are every bit as Palestinian as the people who were there when they arrived, or, in the case of Dennis Prager, didn't actually ever quite get around to arriving.

Words mean things. And those who obscure, fold, spindle, and mutilate the meaning of words for their own ends are wizards who are pursuing ends and serving masters that they wish to conceal from you.

Later in the stream, Big Bear explains that he's not afraid of labels, why he's not afraid to talk to Flat Earthers and others who challenge the current narrative, and how the perception of those who challenge the narrative changes over time.
Vox Day has an actual plan. That motherfucker was so ahead of schedule that people found him terrifying. And now that some of his predictions, decades ago, are coming true, half the population finds him terrifying, and the other half are like, "oh, he's a really good guy." It takes balls to go against the narrative. It takes fucking balls.
It has been fascinating to see how much less crazy people seem to think I am now compared to the middle nineties. I am old enough to remember when people denied that the National Security Agency existed, and declared, with much the same self-assurance as the Moonies today, that anyone who believed the Federal government was capturing and recording everyone's emails and telephone calls was paranoid.

But all I've ever done is observe current events and interpret them through the various trends I have learned about from others and personally observed in the written historical record. I do have a Christian filter, because that is the philosophical model I believe makes the most comprehensive sense of everything, but I'm perfectly capable of doing my analyses without utilizing it.

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78 Comments:

Blogger Mr.MantraMan January 07, 2019 8:12 AM  

Can I be a Judeo-Odinist?

Blogger Zaklog the Great January 07, 2019 8:23 AM  

@1 Only if Thor wields a Hebrew hammer.

Off topic: I have a job interview today, and since we have a third little one on the way and money is already tight, I'd appreciate prayers.

Blogger Daniel Paul Grech Pereira January 07, 2019 8:28 AM  

I've never seen anyone refer to VD as a motherf'r and get away with it. BB = Big Balls.

Blogger JAG January 07, 2019 8:30 AM  

There's a better argument that America was more founded on Masonic values.

I've got one who can see!

Blogger JAG January 07, 2019 8:33 AM  

Zaklog the Great wrote:@1 Only if Thor wields a Hebrew hammer.

Off topic: I have a job interview today, and since we have a third little one on the way and money is already tight, I'd appreciate prayers.


You got it, bro, and congrats on your third child.

Blogger Daniel January 07, 2019 8:33 AM  

Judeo-Buddhist can bring the Swastika back, but Judeo-Nazi is an even better illustration of the wizardry.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother January 07, 2019 8:41 AM  

DSA has the Hebrew Hammer on sale, so Zaklog congrats on your new Israeli FAL!

Blogger English Tom January 07, 2019 8:44 AM  

Good luck Zaklog. Hope you get the job.

Blogger ZhukovG January 07, 2019 8:44 AM  

@Zaklog the Great: Praying for you.

The founding ethnic Americans were a British descended North American Nation. What will be American after the coming collapse is open to speculation.

Blogger One Deplorable DT January 07, 2019 8:46 AM  

@2 - said a prayer, for what it's worth. Good luck!

Only if Thor wields a Hebrew hammer.

Judeo-Mjolnir?





Blogger Ominous Cowherd January 07, 2019 8:47 AM  

Judeo-Islam is best Judeo-, because it's true, and because it pole-axes a lot of evangelicuck nonsense.

Blogger VFM #7634 January 07, 2019 8:50 AM  

"but Judeo-Nazi is an even better illustration of the wizardry."

Hitler's physician
The guy who portrayed the "ideal Aryan soldier"
George Soros

Blogger Ominous Cowherd January 07, 2019 8:50 AM  

Stg58/Animal Mother wrote:DSA has the Hebrew Hammer on sale, so Zaklog congrats on your new Israeli FAL!

I have a set of those Israeli handguards that I keep intending to put on one of my FALs. They look so much cooler than the black plastic.

Blogger Salt January 07, 2019 8:51 AM  

Judeo-Pagan, has a nice ring to it.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother January 07, 2019 8:51 AM  

The Izzy handguards are top kek FAL

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother January 07, 2019 8:53 AM  

The VLTOR CASV FAL is my go to for aftermarket handguards, but I can't get them in the short gas system, so I'm going with the DSA m-lok for my 11" SBR.

Blogger Gettimothy January 07, 2019 9:08 AM  

@2 offered

Blogger The Kurgan January 07, 2019 9:12 AM  

I can relate. I was knows as a “crazily paranoid conspiracy theorist” in the 90s for the simple observations relating to the Clinton mass murders and the NSA projects like Echelon and Carnivore.

That’s even before I mention anything about antigravity spacecraft, Nazi secret bases and how Mars was destroyed by orbital bombardment (which is geologically undeniable).

Blogger Teleros January 07, 2019 9:12 AM  

OT, but Jim Goad over at Takimag decides to talk out of his posterior for his latest column:

https://www.takimag.com/article/so-what-if-jesus-was-jewish

Tried to find a "good" quote to sum it up but frankly there are too many to pick from.

Blogger The Deplorable Podunk Ken Ramsey January 07, 2019 9:22 AM  

There's more truth to Judeo-Islam than most realize! The Prophet Mohammed was surprised and amazed that the Jews weren't following Islam. He expected they would.

Since 9/11 everybody began pouring through the Koran and Islamic teaching and discovering things like the exhortation to kill Jews and Christians, taqiyyah (the sanctification of subterfuge and lying), etc.

The thing is, had they bothered to do examine Talmudic Judaism with that same microscope they'd find similar things in spades. Most Christians who go around talking about our Judeo-Christian heritage simply have no clue. They believe what they have been taught in church.

I was the same way. I am not a cradle Catholic, I was raised as an evangelical Southern Baptist in one of those enormous, dynamic megachurches in Dallas, similar to John Hagee's famous church. The thinking was that Jews had the Old Testament, and we had that and more. We were sort of like Jew++, just like Christ. Every year the church had pilgrimages to the Holy Land, they were always building relationships with Israelis and championing what was good for Israel here at home. Sometimes the question of who to support in GOP primaries came down to, "Who is best for Israel?"

All this, and nobody really bothered to look into Talmudic Judaism as practiced and believed and the history of it. Not one bit of that. Everybody in the world shakes their heads at Americans for their utter cluelessness about history and stuff like this is why it's so well deserved.

Blogger The Deplorable Podunk Ken Ramsey January 07, 2019 9:28 AM  

Jews deny the divinity of Christ (and this is the seat of Heresy). So, did Christ deny his own divinity? Owen is 100% correct, saying Jesus was Jewish is exactly like saying George Washington was British. That is a brilliant rhetorical move.

Blogger English Tom January 07, 2019 9:32 AM  

@Salt

Judeo-demonic has an even better ring to it.

Blogger JM January 07, 2019 9:33 AM  

Judeo-Islamic Values: the belief that you have the right to sexually mutilate your young sons to appease your god, and the practice thereof.

Blogger Blaidd January 07, 2019 9:42 AM  

I am old enough to remember when people denied that the National Security Agency existed, and declared, with much the same self-assurance as the Moonies today, that anyone who believed the Federal government was capturing and recording everyone's emails and telephone calls was paranoid.

Even as a kid in the early 90s I was confused by people who didn't know the government had such capabilities. My father worked for the DoD and I remember my parents shushing me when I said something negative about Bill Clinton, despite knowing they disliked the man, as if someone would hear us in the privacy of our home. The implications were immediately clear to me, so when the Snowden thing broke I didn't even understand what secrets he was revealing besides the technical details because I didn't realize that there were (a vast majority of) people who didn't know the government was spying on us. Nowadays I understand that most people are idiots and I've mostly broken myself of the habit of assuming people know things I've taken for granted.

Blogger Dominik K. January 07, 2019 9:44 AM  

I love how Owen and Ben are using these word constructs against these people...judeo-Buddhist & neo palestinian... just love it.

Blogger Blunt Force January 07, 2019 9:59 AM  

Prager U contributor Jordan Peterson is a Judeo-Satanist which identifies Prager U as platform for promotion of Judeo-Satanism, hence the reason I have installed Prager U block on my PC.

Blogger Bernard Korzeniewicz January 07, 2019 10:02 AM  

@2 God bless.

Blogger Francis Parker Yockey January 07, 2019 10:11 AM  

@11 Ominous Cowherd
Judeo-Islam is best Judeo-, because it's true, and because it pole-axes a lot of evangelicuck nonsense

Sure. Judeo-Islamic makes more sense than "Judeo-Christian." Apart from the obvious similarities in ritual/ religious laws -- pork and other kosher/ halal dietary laws, circumcision, etc. -- Jewish religious authorities going back to Maimonides, while consistently viewing Islam as "in error," have not seen it as "idolatry." But Christianity has been invariably characterized as "idolatry" by halakhic authorities.

https://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/jewish-views-on-islam/

http://www.judaism-islam.com/similarities-between-judaism-and-islam/

Blogger FP January 07, 2019 10:21 AM  

@24

When the Snowden thing broke, I went from being a tin foil hatter for complaining about cell phones and non removable battery models to a weirdo for not being shocked at the revelations. Now we know the phones are listening to conversations all the time for ad revenue, but hey, lets bring in Alexa or Google AI too.

Anyone remember the movie Enemy of the State with Hackman and Smith? Twenty year old movie now, with a plot of rogue NSA agents that spy on and frame an innocent man.

Blogger Warunicorn January 07, 2019 10:25 AM  

Zaklog the Great wrote:@1 Only if Thor wields a Hebrew hammer.

Off topic: I have a job interview today, and since we have a third little one on the way and money is already tight, I'd appreciate prayers.


Thoughts and prayers!

Teleros wrote:OT, but Jim Goad over at Takimag decides to talk out of his posterior for his latest column:

https://www.takimag.com/article/so-what-if-jesus-was-jewish

Tried to find a "good" quote to sum it up but frankly there are too many to pick from.


As much as I like Goad, I don't think he "gets it" concerning Christianity and the current crop of heretics that infest it, whether it be the Turd World idiots who worship "St. Death" all the way to Papa "Roach" Francis himself.

Blogger Owen January 07, 2019 10:43 AM  

Stef also is not afraid to talk to flat Earthers. One of his most popular episodes in fact has that conversation. Not “believing “ in the NSA is just nuts... I worked for them in the late 80s and they are a part of military intelligence in the chain of command.

Blogger Owen January 07, 2019 10:48 AM  

Goad also repeats the myth, often debunked by Vox, that the decline of Europe is due to low birth rates

Blogger Peaceful Poster January 07, 2019 10:58 AM  

The Christian filter combined with the nationalist filter has led to some very accurate predictions.

Perhaps because they are both inevitable.

Blogger One Deplorable DT January 07, 2019 11:10 AM  

@24 - Even as a kid in the early 90s I was confused by people who didn't know the government had such capabilities. My father worked for the DoD and I remember my parents shushing me when I said something negative about Bill Clinton, despite knowing they disliked the man, as if someone would hear us in the privacy of our home.

I'm highly skeptical that the NSA had mass surveillance capabilities in the early 90s. The computing power simply didn't exist yet. That's not to say they weren't already compromising encryption standards (DES) and installing backdoors. But I imagine their efforts were directed at specific targets.

Now by the early 2000's I'm sure all of that changed.

Sometimes I wish Moore's Law had stalled much sooner than it did.

Blogger Peaceful Poster January 07, 2019 11:15 AM  

If you listened to Art Bell on the radio in the 90's, you'd know that not only was the govt spying on us, but so were aliens.

Blogger John Williams January 07, 2019 11:17 AM  

Judeo-Islam, both are Semantic people following works based monotheistic religions, one of which is largely based on the other.
Judeo-Satanic, they’ve never left the synagogue of Satan and always fly the star of Rompha (another name fornMoloch) i
On their flag ( Acts 7:43, Amos 5:26).

Blogger Noah B The Savage Gardener January 07, 2019 11:27 AM  

The people who acted like you were crazy for saying the government was illegally spying on Americans in the 90's are now largely pretending that the government's treachery is inconsequential. Such people are incapable of addressing the more brutal aspects of reality and will always find excuses for avoiding it.

It's the mentality of someone who chooses to dig his own grave rather than fight.

Blogger James January 07, 2019 11:29 AM  

Judeo-Satanist has a nice ring.

Blogger JaimeInTexas January 07, 2019 11:37 AM  

Given the historical narratives in the Old Testament, there were:
Judeo-Molocheans
Judeo-Astarotheans

Blogger Nate January 07, 2019 11:46 AM  

everything you need to know about PragerU can be learned by watching their idiotic video asserting that the American Civil War WAS TO ABOUT SLAVERY YOU RACIST RACIST WHITE MAN

Blogger Jack Amok January 07, 2019 11:57 AM  

and how Mars was destroyed by orbital bombardment (which is geologically undeniable).

Well, talk about learning something new every day. Never heard that one. What's the background?

Blogger Duh-ave January 07, 2019 12:07 PM  

"I'm highly skeptical that the NSA had mass surveillance capabilities in the early 90s"

That may be true but it is prudent to assume that the State is at least two tech generations ahead of whatever the public is aware of.
When the SR-71 Blackbird was revealed you can bet that it's replacement was already operational. When it was retired was the replacements replacement ready?
The State gets first dibs on all new developments. They easily could have had those capabilities in the 80's and it's scary to think of what they may have now.

Blogger Longtime Lurker January 07, 2019 12:19 PM  

@2: Congrats and prayers. In that order.

Blogger dienw January 07, 2019 12:19 PM  

Jack Amok wrote:and how Mars was destroyed by orbital bombardment (which is geologically undeniable).

Well, talk about learning something new every day. Never heard that one. What's the background?


Someone here a few days ago gave a link to videos regarding the Ice Ages and solar novas; the videos include what happened to Mars.

Blogger Jon Mollison January 07, 2019 1:39 PM  

It is true that there is much overlap between the Judeo and the Christian. One aspect of Judeo-Christian that never seems to come up in these discussions is that of what happens when there is a conflict between the Judeo and the Christian in a Judeo-Christian society. Which one takes precedence? If it's always the same one, what does that mean?

On the one side you have the application of the Judeo understanding of divorce, pornography, and abortion. On the other side you have the application of the Christian understanding of...um...Chik-Fil-A closes on Sundays? Help me out here, guys.

Blogger One Deplorable DT January 07, 2019 1:40 PM  

@42 - That may be true but it is prudent to assume that the State is at least two tech generations ahead of whatever the public is aware of.

It's highly doubtful that the NSA was (or is today) two generations ahead of the best possible silicon being produced by Intel, IBM, etc. Along with the highest possible RAM densities and the highest possible hard drive densities from relevant vendors. All produced in numbers so large as to be impossible to hide materially or fiscally.

Don't get me wrong, I'm sure they were spying illegally on targeted individuals and groups. But you need huge data centers with 2000s era tech to perform the mass spying that Snowden revealed. I would put that kind of sweeping surveillance at very late 1990s at the earliest.

When the SR-71 Blackbird was revealed you can bet that it's replacement was already operational.

I would bet its replacement (the rumored mach 5 SR-72) wasn't flying until the late 80s/early 90s and was never fully operational. If it existed at all. I recall reading about seismic network tracking of an unidentified mach 5 craft over southern CA sometime around then. That would fit time/place/rumors for a Lockheed Blackbird replacement. But the lack of further leaks suggests they got so far and then stopped.

Keep in mind that any kid reading Popular Science or Popular Mechanics in the 1980s had a pretty good idea what the B-2 was like long before its existence was acknowledged. Same for the F-117A in terms of capabilities, though every aerospace engineer outside the program missed their guess as to what that one actually looked like. The U.S. government is pretty terrible at keeping secrets, so I'm not inclined to believe they had hypersonic Blackbird replacements ready in the 1960s.

They easily could have had those capabilities in the 80's and it's scary to think of what they may have now.

No one in the world had photolithography to support the chips needed in the 80s. No one was even close.

Also: Snowden's leaks didn't involve ultra futuristic technologies. The NSA was (is) doing a lot of illegal and offensive stuff. But they were doing it with off the shelf hardware and development tools.

Blogger VD January 07, 2019 1:59 PM  

It is true that there is much overlap between the Judeo and the Christian.

Not really. The Talmud supersedes the Torah. Even in terms of page count, they have a very small amount of overlap.

Blogger Zaklog the Great January 07, 2019 2:36 PM  

For those who prayed on my behalf, it appears that the job is mine if I want it. I haven't done this kind of work before, so I have no idea how I'll like it or how well I'll fit, but I'm going to give it a try.

Thank you all.

Blogger Vaughan Williams January 07, 2019 3:08 PM  

Love that. Prayed, then by the time I got to the end of the thread, the prayer was already answered. Congratulations Zaklog.

Blogger Jon Mollison January 07, 2019 3:35 PM  

"Not really. The Talmud supersedes the Torah. Even in terms of page count, they have a very small amount of overlap."

Ah, I get it. I've fallen for the Torah/Talmud trap. Thank you.

Blogger artensoll January 07, 2019 3:57 PM  

@48 New baby on the way, new job - you are giving 2019 a jolly good spanking. Congratulations to you and yours, Mr the Great.

Blogger SciVo January 07, 2019 4:12 PM  

Jesus said that a man cannot serve two masters. If Judaism also served Him, then it would not reject Him as forcefully as it does. Indeed, any hybrid of Christianity would necessarily embrace denial of its central Truths; otherwise it would simply be Christianity. Therefore, since the one who takes delight in perverting the Truth is Satan, Judeo-Christianity is just another euphemism for Satanism.

Blogger Duh-ave January 07, 2019 4:19 PM  

@46 Thanks for the corrections. I bow to you superior grasp of the subject.

Blogger Mark Stoval January 07, 2019 4:43 PM  

@Zaklog the Great:

I am praying for you and all your family. May God bring you whatever you need to feed your family.

Blogger Up from the pond January 07, 2019 4:59 PM  

Owen is righting himself and becoming wise as a serpent. It's a process. I think he'll be all right.

Blogger Up from the pond January 07, 2019 5:10 PM  

@38

Good rhetoric.
https://infogalactic.com/info/Redundancy_(linguistics)#Information_theory

Blogger Joseph Maroney January 07, 2019 5:39 PM  

"When the SR-71 Blackbird was revealed you can bet that it's replacement was already operational. When it was retired was the replacements replacement ready?"

There's rumors of a secret aircraft project that people have named "Aurora", and that it doesn't run on a conventional jet engine. People have been unable to prove its existence.

Blogger AvocadoBob January 07, 2019 6:00 PM  

You’re going to think I’m being a smartass, but I’m heavily interested in all of these. Links to find out more, please?

Blogger AvocadoBob January 07, 2019 6:04 PM  

Eh...I can see that, but then again, we should also consider the probability that the government has had what John Q. Public considers “the latest technology” for a number of years beforehand.

Blogger AvocadoBob January 07, 2019 6:10 PM  

My mother is a John Hagee devotee; me and my dad are trying to get her to see that Churchian obsession with being as Jewish as possible and giving Israel a free pass on everything (she’s convinced that the only thing the Government should be doing right now is making sure Israel gets its overly-glorified welfare check; when asked why, when we are so in debt, she goes all “muh Chosen People”) is not Biblical in any way.

I’m tempted to ask her what would happen if America and Israel found themselves opposing each other in war, where America was, with no doubt, in the right.

She’s got a bum ticker, though, so I’m not sure I should.

Blogger Wuzzums Fuzzums January 07, 2019 6:21 PM  

People need to learn about the IBS phenomenon from two years ago in order to understand these sort of trolls. Internet drama is not about who's right and who's wrong, it's about enjoying the shitshow.

Fans of Owen who were also fans of IBS will jump at any opportunity to create animosity between Owen and any other YT personality no matter how small the disagreement. They want to see Owen crush the other person's soul, LIVE, and throw in superchats to cheer him on. It's this simple and this base.

Every time Owen takes shots at Ben Shapiro or Joe Rogan he's feeding these trolls so they'll always be around and will always try to stir things up.

Blogger Silent Draco January 07, 2019 6:40 PM  

Zaklog, that's good news. Prayers of thanks are also offered because the Lord heard and answered the requests.

Vox's puppy may have a different problem. We've been praying for family and companion for weeks, with a slow response. I suspect a problem, and not the usual ill-wishers; one of the readers or commenters is actually a cat. Time to attach a ball of yarn to port 80, then watch for a reaction. :)

I'm surprised at the number of people who haven't learned a basic lesson: Don't Poke the Bear. Well, SJWs and city folk probably have heavily overlapping Venn diagrams. Daub them with honey and tie their shoelaces together, for the lolz.

Blogger Joseph Maroney January 07, 2019 6:49 PM  

"You’re going to think I’m being a smartass, but I’m heavily interested in all of these. Links to find out more, please?"

https://infogalactic.com/info/Aurora_(aircraft)

Blogger Jack (LJCSOGHMOMAS) January 07, 2019 6:50 PM  

@19 Teleros

Goad's main error in that article is to assume that today's Judaism is the same thing as what is found in the Old Testament. It's not. "Jewish" is the not the same as "Hebrew," and the Talmud is not the same as the Torah. It's an understandable error insofar as nobody in the mainstream will make these distinctions, but Goad ought to research the issue for himself, starting with E. Michael Jones and Michael Hoffman.

Goad is a great writer, one of the funniest I know of, but he still carries the anti-Christian bias of his earlier days.

Blogger One Deplorable DT January 07, 2019 7:01 PM  

@57 - There's rumors of a secret aircraft project that people have named "Aurora", and that it doesn't run on a conventional jet engine. People have been unable to prove its existence.

Yep. That's what I was referring to in @46. I couldn't source it now (its been decades), but I distinctly remember my surprise and amusement at reading that seismic networks had, on several occasions, tracked a hypersonic vehicle across the U.S. southwest which was not the space shuttle on reentry.

And then...nothing. If I were to bet, funding dried up and/or there were problems. Perhaps the latter contributing to the former in a post cold war world where Russia and China could be observed with satellites and goat herders could be observed with well designed paper airplanes if the need arose.

This would also fit with public information about Lockheed proposals in the 2000's and 2010's. Its publicly known that they have pushed the USAF on a hypersonic spy plane. I wouldn't expect a company, even Lockheed, to push for something like that unless there was existing tech that got part way there.

It's fun to speculate. But in any case, while I think government often gets the best of currently available tech, I don't see evidence that they are two generations ahead. If that were the case then we would have landed on the moon sometime in the late 1940s :-P

Also: congrats to Zaklog, and good luck in the new job.

Blogger Joseph Maroney January 07, 2019 7:44 PM  

It gets cited quite often, but I too would like to see the reasons behind the speculation. I take it as a given that the military has better tech than they allow us to have, but concrete examples would be helpful.

Blogger Kevin Blackwell January 07, 2019 9:34 PM  

Dennis Prager openly said on the rubin report that it's completely normal for men to have sex with 16 year old boys. And people complain about catholic priests.

Blogger SciVo January 07, 2019 9:50 PM  

Joseph Maroney wrote:I take it as a given that the military has better tech than they allow us to have, but concrete examples would be helpful.

See, given the slowness and inefficiency of the military procurement process, I assume that they're always behind the tech curve. That any private organization, spending the same amount of money in the same year, could build something more advanced. I believe that they only manage to get impressive tech by dumping a ridiculous amount of money into it, 10-100 times as much as anyone else would (or more), most of which gets lost to layers and layers of price gouging.

Blogger Marsh 01701 January 07, 2019 10:16 PM  

Continued prayers it works out for you.

Blogger Joseph Maroney January 07, 2019 10:48 PM  

It has fraud built into it. Some, if not most of the missing money gets put into black budgets. They are a completely different animal, unfettered from most regulations.

Blogger One Deplorable DT January 07, 2019 11:21 PM  

@66 - I take it as a given that the military has better tech than they allow us to have, but concrete examples would be helpful.

Outside of actual weapons it's not really a matter of "allow." It's just a matter of money. No one is stopping Elon Musk from building a mach 5 plane. But it costs a lot of money to do so. What use would he have for it?

The government uses private firms to engineer and manufacture their toys. Firms which draw upon the current state of the commercial art. Yes, they may push beyond that with government funding. And yes, what they develop may be classified for a time. But it's only ever going to be so far ahead of their competition. Competition which, given time and public demand, will end up developing something as good or better.

Outside of truly illegal technologies (i.e. advanced weapons) the question is really one of public demand.

Blogger Dirk Manly January 08, 2019 12:27 AM  

@24

"Even as a kid in the early 90s I was confused by people who didn't know the government had such capabilities. My father worked for the DoD and I remember my parents shushing me when I said something negative about Bill Clinton, despite knowing they disliked the man, as if someone would hear us in the privacy of our home."

More than one book written by Vietnam vets makes contemprorary (late 1960's) reference to No Such Agency. Primarily those written by SEAL or SOG types.

Blogger Dirk Manly January 08, 2019 12:34 AM  

@29


"Anyone remember the movie Enemy of the State with Hackman and Smith? Twenty year old movie now, with a plot of rogue NSA agents that spy on and frame an innocent man."

I'm a computer engineer. When I saw Enemy of the State, and saw the little disk bugs, with no batteries, just planted with no connections, I thought this was crossing the line of physics.

Then I found out about Theremin's invention of the remotely powered (by radio wave) acoustic bug.

Those acoustic bugs are accurate representation.

The first one discovered had been planted in a wood-constructed Great Seal of the United States which had been given to the US Ambassador to Russia, using schoolchildren to ward off suspicion. He had it hanging in his private, secured office. It was discovered unexpectedly during a bug-sweep, when one of the team, listening for abnormal pitch variations from transmitters used in sweeping, suddenly heard through his earphones, clear as a bell, a conversation between the Ambassador and a visitor in the Ambassador's office.

Blogger Dirk Manly January 08, 2019 12:38 AM  

@34

"The computing power simply didn't exist yet. That's not to say they weren't already compromising encryption standards (DES) and installing backdoors."

NSA *creates* (or in cases where they didn't develop the encryption, signs off on it becoming one of) the encryption standards used by the federal government, and also, issues the keys.

Blogger Jack Amok January 08, 2019 1:47 AM  

Someone here a few days ago gave a link to videos regarding the Ice Ages and solar novas; the videos include what happened to Mars.

Thanks. Argh, stereotypical rambling nutter unfortunately. Entertaining though, would've made a great Art Bell guest.

Of course we're about due for another glaciation, anyone looking at ice core records can tell that, and no one from the government has tried to suppress this.

They're too busy trying to cover up the money they've embezzled.

Blogger Duke Norfolk January 08, 2019 6:45 AM  

Jack (LJCSOGHMOMAS) wrote:Goad is a great writer, one of the funniest I know of, but he still carries the anti-Christian bias of his earlier days.

I can't help but think that Goad is just looking for reasons to reject Christianity (and all religion) because he won't give up his many degenerate ways (as with so many atheists). Also his pride won't let him submit. Also a typical aspect of atheism (I was there).

He's pretty entertaining at times, but I groan when he starts in on the topic of religion.

Blogger The Jester January 08, 2019 8:51 PM  

I have taken a fond liking of Owen. I guess this is what Vox meant when he said the alphas are to smash the temples like Christ did. Vox and Owen make an excellent team.

Blogger michimartini January 09, 2019 2:34 PM  

I think he got that straight out of "Out of the silent planet".

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