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Monday, January 21, 2019

Boomer hate goes mainstream


Best quote from the fake game show Millennial Millions: "I'm Gen-X. I just sit on the sidelines and watch the world burn."

It's interesting to observe that Boomers have finally lost control of the Official Zeitgeist. And it's amusing to see how so many of them are still so generationally narcissistic that they genuinely don't understand why all three succeeding generations not only don't regard them as cool, but collectively hate them.

Is it entirely their fault? No. Of course not. The destructive decisions of the Silents and the Greatest Generation certainly played a significant part in the decline and eventual fall of the United States. But is there a lot for which to blame the Boomers, not least of all their unabashed pride in their ongoing demolition of their nation? Indubitably. He who breaks the generational compact, leaves his descendants worse off than his parents did, and dies with the most toys does not win, because the children and grandchildren he robbed will write his history.

This comment from a Gen-X progressive speaks for an awful lot of post-Boomer Americans: "I bought into the American dream and was heavily disappointed when I discovered that it was dead and only for the previous generation."

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Blogger Wolfman at Large January 21, 2019 6:19 AM  

Gen Y fought on as long at we could but were crushed by the weight of the world and later annexed by gen X somewhere around 2007.

Blogger Brett baker January 21, 2019 6:30 AM  

Well, you learned to bitch about us from the Boomers.

Blogger Daniel Paul Grech Pereira January 21, 2019 6:31 AM  

GENERATION ZERO - The ones with nothing to lose.

Blogger Lazarus January 21, 2019 6:47 AM  

Talkin' 'bout defenestration.

Blogger Gregory the Great January 21, 2019 6:57 AM  

Most evil thing they did was fall for the subversive free love etc. ideology of the Sixties. If you voluntarily try to remain "Forever Young" (like in the Dylan song) it also means you remain "Forever Stupid". As Churchill supposedly said: Anybody who is not a socialist at 20 has no heart, anybody who is not a conservative at 40 has no brain. Too many who stick to what they learnt when they were 20.

Blogger Meanoldbasterd January 21, 2019 7:00 AM  

SNL: the stopped clock of comedy

Blogger SciVo January 21, 2019 7:04 AM  

That was awesome.

Wolfman at Large wrote:Gen Y fought on as long at we could but were crushed by the weight of the world and later annexed by gen X somewhere around 2007.

Well, that's because you were us but younger. I mean, the clothes and music were different, but we liked it. And maybe you had schizophrenia induced by formaldehyde offgassed by the processed wood in your trailer "home", but the anomie was like a puppy under the mistletoe at a Christmas alone again. Like us, but where the nostalgia isn't ironic.

Blogger SSgt Snafui January 21, 2019 7:09 AM  

The most important investment in the future is your own children. Boomers turned this over to the State from daycare to subsidized student loans.

You reap what you sow.

Blogger Lazarus January 21, 2019 7:12 AM  

Gregory the Great wrote:Most evil thing they did was fall for the subversive free love etc. ideology of the Sixties.

As the Yuri Besmenov video stated, the KGB had a hand in all that ideological subversion and demoralization. It was aided and abetted by the CIA who introduced LSD to American youth.

Blogger SciVo January 21, 2019 7:14 AM  

SciVo wrote:schizophrenia induced by formaldehyde offgassed by the processed wood in your trailer "home"

To be clear, his is my headcanon about the show Wonderfalls. So my joke was probably a little too private.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother January 21, 2019 7:18 AM  

Someone really wants us to stay in Syria.

https://twitter.com/sotiridi/status/1087321277524779009?s=19

Blogger SciVo January 21, 2019 7:23 AM  

@11 Stg58/Animal Mother:

All NPC dialogue must be interpreted through the lens of that their only principle is power. They didn't bother getting public buy-in before going in to Syria, because they had more power that way. And so they're crying over leaving for the same reason.

Blogger Cloom January 21, 2019 7:33 AM  

As Churchill supposedly said: Anybody who is not a socialist at 20 has no heart, anybody who is not a conservative at 40 has no brain.

Everyone should stop repeating that stupid binary subversion because it is liberals incorrectly implying the right has no heart, and making excuses for their evil leftist youth because they still think they are the charitable ones.

They are wrong on all counts.

Blogger Tatooine Sharpshooters' Club January 21, 2019 7:38 AM  

Look what gift the three day weekend has brought us:

https://twitter.com/KamalaHarris/status/1087327713277460481

Blogger SciVo January 21, 2019 7:40 AM  

Anybody who is a socialist at 20 is a sociopath that wants a dacha and a chauffeur at the expense of people who wanted to do better than their neighbors by working harder.

Blogger ZhukovG January 21, 2019 7:43 AM  

It is events that define a generation, not arbitrary dates.

Boomer = Too young to remember Truman's presidency. But old enough to remember exactly where you were when you heard JFK was assassinated. You know exactly what the 'Summer of Love' was about.

Generation X = Too young for Viet Nam. You came of age when it was 'Morning in America'. You thrilled to the defeat of Global Communism in which you may have taken a part. But then suffered the disillusionment of realizing that your worst enemies were not behind some 'iron curtain', but were running your own country.

Just my thoughts.

Blogger Gregory the Great January 21, 2019 7:44 AM  

@13 Cloom,

good point, but apart from being a good phrase rhetorically I think it has some value as it points out that more life experience often leads people to more wisdom and that those with a mind for logic and reason can very well leave their earlier mistakes and misconceptions behind.

Blogger Gregory the Great January 21, 2019 7:48 AM  

@15 I beg to differ. Many young people just are emphatically full of empathy for anybody "weak and poor and unfortunate and underprivileged". Later when they have jobs and see what hard work and diligence can do for you they realize that they do not wish to pay for all the people who do not invest the same amount of effort into their lives.

Blogger Arthur Isaac January 21, 2019 7:51 AM  

Millenials, slow to discover that for all the Boomers talk about how special they are the Boomers will still eat them at the first sign of a hard time. Welcome to the club, kids.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother January 21, 2019 7:55 AM  

Scivo,

Five of our guys got blown up in Syria.

Blogger Arthur Isaac January 21, 2019 8:01 AM  

Anybody who is a socialist at 20 is a sociopath that wants a dacha and a chauffeur at the expense of people who wanted to do better than their neighbors by working harder.

Do you have a DSM for capitalists who will sell their nation for a buck with a crusaders heart of moral purity on the issue of open borders/markets?

I'll see your Alexandria Ocassio-Cortez and raise you a Tim Cook and a John Stossel.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan January 21, 2019 8:06 AM  

If I would be allowed to guess what in part fuels VD's hatred of Boomers here it is, as a young musician he dealt with execs and radio personalities that would blow smoke up his posterior in a phony manner on how much they loved his music for one second before they started commenting on their love of Beatles' music. In their offices would be Beatles memorabilia and depending on how important they were on how personalized it was.

Blogger dienw January 21, 2019 8:09 AM  

I am a Boomer from working class roots; by the time I hit college in '67, I was a Christian, conservative, and an artist. I learned at that time that the entire hippie culture was a lie: Birkenstock sandals costing $100; good God; hippiedom was a middle to upper-middleclass lawless joke. The middle-class and upper-class disguised themselves as working class; but when it was time to get real, well off mommy and daddy stepped in and got them into good positions; who was it who went from hippie to stockbroker in the seventies?

The same class division and antics are occurring today and the poor and working class are still suffering. I stopped listening to Limbaugh in the late nineties after he went from pooh-poohing the impoverishment of the working class (retrain in tech) to crying about white-collar job loss.

Blogger Markku January 21, 2019 8:19 AM  

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RUN LOGAN, RUN!
LOGAN IS RUNNING

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother January 21, 2019 8:23 AM  

RENEW
RENEW

Blogger Richard Holmes January 21, 2019 8:44 AM  

It is events that define a generation, not arbitrary dates.

Boomer = Too young to remember Truman's presidency. But old enough to remember exactly where you were when you heard JFK was assassinated. You know exactly what the 'Summer of Love' was about.

Generation X = Too young for Viet Nam. You came of age when it was 'Morning in America'. You thrilled to the defeat of Global Communism in which you may have taken a part. But then suffered the disillusionment of realizing that your worst enemies were not behind some 'iron curtain', but were running your own country.

Just my thoughts.


Well, now. I have no idea what generation I am supposed to belong. i don't remember Truman presidency. I was 1 year old when JFK got assassinated. I was way too young for vietnam. Ended 6 years before I would be of age to be drafted...

I voted for Reagan (Ya!). But about that time I learned how corrupt our government was, only to learn later I have no idea how deep the corruption actually goes.Never went to college. My father and I couldn't afford it. But learned a lot of on the job training in controls. I learned at 7 years old that everything wasn't about me. I got in several fights because these kids wouldn't do as I told them. Lost all of them. Only fights I ever lost. Hard way to learn a hard truth. But grateful I learned it and didn't have to learn it further.

Is this mess in this country my fault? Yes. Am I a victim? I suppose one could say that, but I say no and refuse to be a victim. I have no idea how I could help fix this mess. But I wouldn't mind learning WHAT would fix it. Then perhaps I could help..

But bashing me as a boomer or early gen-x doesn't phase me because I have come to the conclusion that I belong to neither generation. I am the red-headed step child that everyone wishes I would just go away and I'm happy to oblige.

Blogger ZhukovG January 21, 2019 8:51 AM  

In any discussion of generations we speak in generalities. An individual may vary widely from their generational norm.

However, if you are a Boomer, and on seeing one of these threads your first instinct is to defend your generation or put down someone else's....

... 'There's your sign'.

As GenXer's we must get over our apathy and quit bitching from the sidelines while the world burns. If nothing else we must throw ourselves on the barbed wire so the Millenials and Zyklons can charge into the breach. We fought before, now that we know our real enemy, we can do it again.

Our beloved GE won't save us, so quit pissing and moaning about him. The Zyklons won't save anything either if we don't take the lead.

Blogger ZhukovG January 21, 2019 8:53 AM  

@Richard Holmes: You sound pretty GenX to me.

Blogger The Cooler January 21, 2019 8:57 AM  

@26 You are a Cusper. That you are capable of self-examination sans reflexive rationalization leans you GenX.

*goes back to poking at fire*

Blogger The Cooler January 21, 2019 9:02 AM  

As GenXer's we must get over our apathy and quit bitching from the sidelines while the world burns.

Much of it has to burn, though. We observe the blaze, when observing, to better grasp the principle of controlled burn.

Give us a minute, Millennials. But don't give us two.

Blogger Longtime Lurker January 21, 2019 9:05 AM  

@14: Kamala "Love Train" Harris. All pussy hat and no chattel.

Blogger Random #57 January 21, 2019 9:09 AM  

@26 Richard Holmes, strictly speaking, you're in Generation Jones, but so few people make that distinction between the cultural Baby Boomers of the first generation of the demographic Baby Boom and the following generation that are not culturally Baby Boomers at all that you might as well say early Gen X. Culture is what counts here, not what demographers label based on cold data and charts.

Blogger Iron Spartan January 21, 2019 9:15 AM  

I can't forgive the silents and "greatest" generation for looking the evils of collectivism in the face, and deciding not to wipe it out. They let that cancer into our culture and institutions, allowed the evil to be protected under the auspice of academic freedom, and fed to the boomers because their parents were too afraid to speak against it.

The boomers were the first generation to get that poison pumped into their minds from the cradle, and it was the weakness of their parents that allowed it.

The boomers New World Order is collapsing. We and our children will have to be the ones to bear the pain of excising the cancer, and hopefully we can learn from the mistakes of our parents and grandparents.

Blogger CM January 21, 2019 9:23 AM  

@26 Richard Holmes, strictly speaking, you're in Generation Jones, but so few people make that distinction between the cultural Baby Boomers of the first generation of the demographic Baby Boom and the following generation that are not culturally Baby Boomers at all that you might as well say early Gen X. Culture is what counts here, not what demographers label based on cold data and charts.

This sounds about where my parents were. They are both youngest of 5, so all their siblings are solidly boomer (and for the most part, acted that way), but my parents parented like x-ers and I (and most of my siblings) are bit better situated millenials because of it.

I think my kids fall into Z, but might be the tail end. It's going to be a hard life for them.

Blogger SciVo January 21, 2019 9:24 AM  

Gregory the Great wrote:Later when they have jobs and see what hard work and diligence can do for you they realize that they do not wish to pay for all the people who do not invest the same amount of effort into their lives.

See, that's why we need to shoot anyone trying to sneak over the border, so that unhyphenated Americans can pick berries in the summer like I did. Moral imperative!

Stg58/Animal Mother wrote:Five of our guys got blown up in Syria.

And? Whether it was five or two or two hundred, why were they even there? And why was Turkey on the other side? And why does NATO even exist any more?

Arthur Isaac wrote:Do you have a DSM for capitalists who will sell their nation for a buck with a crusaders heart of moral purity on the issue of open borders/markets?

Yes, mildly retarded sociopaths. I have said this repeatedly.

Arthur Isaac wrote:I'll see your Alexandria Ocassio-Cortez and raise you a Tim Cook and a John Stossel.

I have no idea what you're even going on about. AOC is a nut, Tim Cook is a mensch and John Stossel is who again?

Blogger dienw January 21, 2019 9:25 AM  

@33 Iron Spartan
The boomers were the first generation to get that poison pumped into their minds from the cradle, and it was the weakness of their parents that allowed it.



The Boomers and subsequent generations until early to mid 90s were saturated by the advise of the ungodly advice of An Landers And her sister Dear Abby: upper-middle class Jews.

Blogger Random #57 January 21, 2019 9:30 AM  

@33 Iron Spartan: the cancer was already strong when the Silents were able to pay attention, FDR was President by that time, the earliest born in 1928. The formative experiences of the earlier cohort who my parents belong to are the Great Depression and WWII, so they tended to be K selected, and they then entered the world, 4 years of military duty or the job market during the 1950s, the job market tending towards r selection. Jews were sacred, they may or may not have succumbed to the anti-racism propaganda that became an increasingly overpowering thing, etc. Not 100% pozzed in my observations of them, parents and their peers, but strongly so. Plenty would have been in the first subset that was deliberately not taught how to read, Why Johnny Can't Read was published in 1955.

Blogger FP January 21, 2019 9:34 AM  

SNL makes a relevent point? Who would have thunk it. My Silent and Boomer parents own apathy, go along get along attitude translated into my gen-x/early millenial watch the world burn mindset. Especially since my so called wise elders kept telling me from '98 onward to grow up a bit and live a little before pontificating on anything.

20 years later I'm viewed as too extremist or an absolutist as we have arguments over if enforcing border laws is racist, are smirks from teens in red maga hats racist and if 10 year old desmond is amazing or not as he does a striptease in front of gay men at a gay bar.

I eagerly await boomer blogger Aesop's hot take on this, for a laugh anyway. He seems to have a pro boomer rant once a week or so.

http://raconteurreport.blogspot.com/2019/01/i-seem-to-have-hit-nerve.html

He and Denninger went at it over healthcare a month or two ago. Mucho hilarity.

Blogger seeingsights January 21, 2019 9:50 AM  

There is a lot of truth in the comedic piece. I'm s Gen Xer and many of my co workers are Millennials. I've never heard my Millenial co workers say anything bad about Gen X. Hey they talk about 80s music. One of them likes to think of himself as Gen X though he is not.
One co worker called the Boomers selfish.
The Boomers had unearned advantages. Affordable college. A decent job available to anyone who was willing to wake up in the morning. The divorce and abortion rates were higher in the 1970s and 1980s than in the 90s and after. Divorce and abortion is not conducive to strong families.

Blogger The Deuce January 21, 2019 9:51 AM  

I honestly loathe my fellow millennials. How stupid do you have to be to take all the social justice Boomer idiocy that robbed your generation of a future and double and triple down on it so you can have a false sense of accomplishment? Most of my generation deserve what's coming to them.

Blogger Hammerli280 January 21, 2019 9:58 AM  

@26, et. seq.: You're neither. A political generation is NOT, repeat NOT, twenty years. It's about ten, maybe twelve. Which means that those of us born in the late 1950s and early to mid 1960s are part of a group that are neither Brat Boomers NOR the first half of Gen X (another misnomer, FWIW). I call us the Baby Busters...the poor sods who got stuck with the bill after the Brat Boomers held a monster party.

I've been gathering information and thinking about how to present a History of Post-World-War-II America. And the political decade groups play a significant part in understanding just what went on. Because Vox is right - the Brat Boom had a pig-in-a-python effect that sucked the air out of the environment. Especially for the Baby Busters, who have lived our entire lives listening to the Brats blathering on about the 1960s...while living in the nice houses they bought before the Great Inflation.

We got to see Jimmy Carter tell US that we could not hope to live as well as our parents. Which is why we voted for Reagan. He offered hope...and by 1980, the Baby Busters hadn't had hope in half a lifetime.

Blogger Arthur Isaac January 21, 2019 9:59 AM  

I have no idea what you're even going on about. AOC is a nut, Tim Cook is a mensch and John Stossel is who again?

Open border, free market BOOMERS. AOC's nuttery is is the Spring to their Fall. For every nutty millennial I'll give you 5 boomers that taught them everything they know.

Blogger Hammerli280 January 21, 2019 10:06 AM  

@37: Yup. Western Civilization took sick around 1916, during the First World War, and has never really recovered. The elites of that era fought a massive, costly war - and did so with a savagery not seen since the Thirty Years War three centuries earlier. Then followed it with a Second World War that was even bloodier.

It shattered confidence in Western Civilization. Worse, there was no resolve to "Go, and sin no more," as there was after the Thirty Years War. THAT conflict led to Laws of War that contained the worst of the horrors for three hundred years. The World Wars...led to a loss of confidence that underlies almost all the problems of our time.

Perhaps THAT is what the New Right needs to focus on. The belief that Classical Western Civilization really IS the most advanced society. And that we need to go back to that era, pick up the thread of Civilization, and proceed from there.

Blogger Duke Norfolk January 21, 2019 10:07 AM  

ZhukovG wrote:It is events that define a generation, not arbitrary dates.

Yeah, all that seems about right to me. I never felt like a Boomer, born in '63. But my older brothers? Yep, for sure.

Then again I don't fit the stereotype of Xer either, and didn't get into the typical Xer culture. I didn't listen to music much, didn't watch a lot of movies or TV. I entered military service in '86 (USAF), and spent 22 yrs there. Too busy with work and family (had 2 boys, one at 23, the other at 29). So that affects things too.

I guess I really do fit as a "cusper", if I had to peg myself. But having always been a bit unplugged from pop culture, none of it means much to me.

I was too trusting through most of life, that's for sure. Woke up quite a bit in my 40s, and now 50s.

Blogger Tars Tarkusz January 21, 2019 10:27 AM  

Xers never had a coherent generation in the way that Millennials and Boomers do. Even today it is rare to hear some 40 something start a monologue with 'as an Gen-Xer...' When we were spoken about by others, it was usually in a negative way.

It is probably for the best. It is so annoying listening to these 2 other generations ramble on, especially Millennials about how racist or sexist we are and how they are going to save the society. It's hard to feel bad for them when they are so pompous.

As far as I know, Gen-X is 65-84

Blogger rumpole5 January 21, 2019 10:29 AM  

The games show short hit the nail on the head with current college expenses. They are ridiculous! In 2007 we were blessed with a "FULL" college scholarship for our son. He came back from the registration and told me that he needed $1,000.00 for the student activities fee. That was what the TUITION was when I went to college! There is simply NO WAY that today's kids can work their way through college. We parents have to turn loose some of the serendipity money we have from being born when we were, or our kids are not going to make it. As to social security, I am holding off till age 70 so that I can pay off some of my son's grad school tuition debts. The sum really is astounding. As for the rest of you millennials, take a cue from the skit and just let the pathetic Boomers rattle on. You will soon end up with everything that the Boomers have. Moreover, the worst of the bunch ruined their health with booze, easy sex, and hard drugs. Most of their 60s ikons are dead already, and they themselves will be the first of the remaining Boomers to go. I think that you will find the more prudent Boomer sort a bit easier to live with.

Blogger Crush Limbraw January 21, 2019 10:40 AM  

DaBoomers were raised by the Greatest Generation who returned from WW2 - by that time the seeds had already been planted in American culture by Antonio Gramsci and his disciples - the march through the institutions.
When I wrote "The destruction of the ‘American Way’ accelerated under my watch – and yours, if you’re anywhere my age – so let’s fess up – we were part of the problem. How so? We let a bunch of ‘developmentally arrested’ adolescent know nothings take over the entire culture and country – every institution you can name is run by so-called liberals (fascists is a better word). It took them over 100 years, but let’s face it – they are in charge and they are not bashful about telling us that they are." - that was over 3 years ago on my website.
We live in a senior community and about 5 years ago I started a small group to discuss Government-Religion-Politics-Culture - about 8 or 9 responded, but it only lasted about 4-5 weeks. Everyone had an opinion - only one was actually interested in learning anything new.
I should have known - upon announcing the upcoming discussion group at our monthly meeting and asking if they felt the general encroachment of government and culture, I got a blank stare from almost all attendees.
My point - the crapola we now deal with began with the Progressive movement over 100 years ago - DaBoomers were the primary fodder for the Progressive wave just because of their numbers, but the die was cast long before that.

Blogger Arthur Isaac January 21, 2019 10:42 AM  

You will soon end up with everything that the Boomers have.

A Prius with a dead battery and 36 months of financing and a $500 recycle fee? A carniceria in place of a 5 & 10 and a favella in place of a neighborhood. Thanks boomers!!!!

Blogger Nate January 21, 2019 10:45 AM  

"The boomers were the first generation to get that poison pumped into their minds from the cradle, and it was the weakness of their parents that allowed it."

no. they weren't. Communism was huge in the US in the 20s and 30s.

The Boomers were the ones who, their pride, decided they could destroy civilization and remake it in their own image.

Blogger Nate January 21, 2019 10:46 AM  

also... we don't just watch the fire... we also stoke it.

Anonymous Anonymous January 21, 2019 10:52 AM  

There’s something to be said skipping generation; my father was born in 1925, I was born in 1966.

Winning!

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother January 21, 2019 10:53 AM  

Americans were also spicing up the ol' Pledge of Allegiance with the raised palm salute in the 1920's and 1930's. Progressivism was the fucking cat's meow back then.

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Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother January 21, 2019 10:54 AM  

RM,

Me too. Dad born in 1932, me born in 1976. Dodged a bullet there for sure.

Blogger KPKinSunnyPhiladelpia January 21, 2019 11:01 AM  

I like this board, most of the commentors, and VD of course -- as I've said elsewhere, he's a prick, but he's OUR prick.

But this Boomer bashing is tiresome. The boomers ruined everything? Boo fucking hoo. Look at VD and his mini-empire. Get a clue. Get off your fucking asses and quit moaning.

You wouldn't have iPhones, the Internet, cheap computers, cars that don't break down in the middle of nowhwere, cheap airline flights, GPS satellites, effective cancer fighting drugs - just to mention a very very few sociental advances -- without Boomers who put their noses to the grindstone and WORKED.

And I have the nose -- and a couple of well adjusted kids -- to prove it.

Now there is a lot about my generation I am not partcularly proud of. Do the complaints have validity? Sure.

But when you're pushing 7 decades of earthly existence, you realize not everything is utopia. You, too, will fuck up, and you may seriously fuck up.

So, yeah, go ahead bitch and moan. When you finish your day's worth of complaining, you'll get up the next day and find the same world in front of you.

Deal with it.

Blogger Lance E January 21, 2019 11:07 AM  

Gregory the Great wrote:@15 I beg to differ. Many young people just are emphatically full of empathy for anybody "weak and poor and unfortunate and underprivileged".

No it's not. And people need to stop repeating this canard.

Half of it is simple virtue-signaling, play-acting at empathy in order to gain social status. That part is truly sociopathic.

The other half is callous altruism, the "empathy" of the PETA radical who deplores the conditions of a contented house pet and then after "liberating" them proceeds to either abuse, abandon, or euthanize them. It's empathy that depends entirely on a lack of personal responsibility, and even more importantly, a lack of familiarity with the "victim".

In other words, it's [the appearance of] sympathy, not empathy. And compare the apparent sympathy that your garden-variety leftist used to have for the white working class with the sympathy they demonstrate toward them now that they have actual populist representation and a voice on social media. They can only sympathize with an abstract ideal. Turn it into something concrete and they despise it.

I don't know if that counts as sociopathy, but it's definitely not empathy of any kind.

Blogger Nate January 21, 2019 11:14 AM  

"You wouldn't have iPhones, the Internet, cheap computers, cars that don't break down in the middle of nowhwere, cheap airline flights, GPS satellites, effective cancer fighting drugs - just to mention a very very few sociental advances -- without Boomers who put their noses to the grindstone and WORKED."

are you not dead yet? Can you move it along?

Blogger Heian-kyo Dreams January 21, 2019 11:17 AM  

Is Sunny Philly trolling or is his /her Boomer showing?

Blogger Meanoldbasterd January 21, 2019 11:17 AM  

Aaaaand here's the requisite Boomer defense by way of red herrings post...
News flash old man: None of those things matter without a civilization within which to enjoy them....

Blogger The Cooler January 21, 2019 11:21 AM  

GenX: Bitch moan complain.
Boomer: WRONG!

Millennial/GenZ: Bitch moan complain.
GenX: I know. What can I do to help?

This is the sea change.

Blogger Jack Amok January 21, 2019 11:25 AM  

Everyone should stop repeating that stupid binary subversion because

You're sperging out on dialect and missing great rhetoric. That phrase, "If you're not a liberal at 20 you have no heart. If you're not a conservative at 40 you have no brain" is awesome rhetoric.

No, it's not strictly true, but it is both metaphorically true and emotionally painful to left wingers. Metaphorically, it acknowledges that youth don't understand how anything works, but are able to see injustice and suffering. Emotionally it hammers aging liberals as children who never grew up and are waiting for Daddy to make it all better.

Plus, it gives a 30 year old liberal cover for moving right.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother January 21, 2019 11:25 AM  

Hahaha Detroit put out some real bad ass cars in the 1980's and 1990's.

Blogger Jack Amok January 21, 2019 11:31 AM  

... Boomers who put their noses to the grindstone...

To sniff the coke off of it?

Blogger Damelon Brinn January 21, 2019 11:38 AM  

You wouldn't have iPhones, the Internet,

Bleh. The Internet of the Boomers was a military/academic project that mainly connected their ivory towers so they could tinker with it, and did nothing profitable. Then Gen-X discovered it and made it awesome, creating the protocols and software to enable anyone with some computer aptitude to get online and contribute. Then Millennials came along and made it suck with social media.

Blogger Gen. Kong January 21, 2019 11:38 AM  

Gregory the Great wrote:

Most evil thing they did was fall for the subversive free love etc. ideology of the Sixties. If you voluntarily try to remain "Forever Young" (like in the Dylan song) it also means you remain "Forever Stupid". As Churchill supposedly said: "Anybody who is not a socialist at 20 has no heart, anybody who is not a conservative at 40 has no brain." Too many who stick to what they learnt when they were 20.

This is partly on the mark but boomers still bear responsibility for their continuing belief in lies. The lie at the heart of the Churchill quote has already been dealt with I see. The whole sixties 'summer of love' bullshit was the manufacture of fake news - keep in mind that there was nothing but fake news at the time. The late sixties also saw Vietnam - with reports of 500 American soldiers dead every week by the Tet offensive of 1968, riots in major cities (blacks rioting and looting); the hard-left takeover of the D-jerseys from the Hubert Humphrey types; terrorist attacks by leftists Obama's mentor Bill Ayers (daddy owned Com-Ed) and his mate (((Bernadine Dohrn))) - neither of whom went to prison for genuine crimes and ended up as well-heeled faculty at Northwestern University. In short, the whole 'summer of luuuv' and 'flower-power' zeitgeist was manufactured by the (((usual suspects))), who had already taken over the regime completely (USS Liberty was 1967, Pentagon was ordered to hire communist party members by courts in late 60s, etc.). Other than some of the well-off ones acting out at the time to join the revolution (Ayers & Dohrn), the great sin of most boomers was in believing the lies they were fed on a daily basis, while rejecting the heritage of western civilization they'd been (in part) handed. Most continue to believe the lies and embrace the rejection to this day. Even greater numbers of later generations do so now.

They were the first generation (not the last) to be raised by the television. Their women were the first generation (not the last) to embrace the Satanic lie of feminism; they were the first generation (not the last) to fall for the 'anti-racism' lie und so weiter The manufactured 'culture' (fake news, pedowood, et al) of the Banana Empire stroked their egos at the same time they were fed a steady diet of lies about everything. Rather than being an example or paving the way for future generations, they instead robbed them of their futures and serve only as an example of total fecklessness.

Contrary to the opinions of most here, the later generations are if anything even more entrenched in the lies than their boomer predecessors are. You'll never see the SNL millennials going after Limousine Marxists like Ayers and Dohrn or any of their other sugar-daddies. Instead they'll pile on the somewhat atypical boomer Donald Trump (born 1946), who avoided getting sent to Vietnam (just like Jorge W. Boosh and Bill Clinton who were both born the same year).

Blogger Richard Holmes January 21, 2019 11:41 AM  

are you not dead yet? Can you move it along? - Nate

HAHAHA!!!

Getting slow in his old age...

Blogger Fargoth January 21, 2019 11:44 AM  

Boomers were the first generation to be fluoridated in the womb...sad but true.

Blogger Nate January 21, 2019 11:51 AM  

Other things the Boomers gave us:

AIDS... Debt... Veganism... The Who...

Blogger Nate January 21, 2019 12:01 PM  

also... CrossFit... brought to you by Boomer.

Blogger Joseph Maroney January 21, 2019 12:03 PM  

"It was aided and abetted by the CIA who introduced LSD to American youth."

The boomers are ground zero for modern mass mind control techniques. It's highly appropriate that televisions shows were called "programs." Today's youths are getting the same dosage as the boomers through youtube, and woe to the parents that allow them to roam on it freely.

Blogger Tars Tarkusz January 21, 2019 12:06 PM  

@62

You have got to be kidding me. The 80s was one of the worst decades for cars. The econo-box decade. There were some OK models, but it was generally a bad decade for Detroit. Don't forget throttle body injection! Of course, there was also the Grand National and the Mustang SVO. But then there's the Yugo.

Boomers, being Boomers have driven up the cost of VW Bugs and Buses into the stratosphere. Only a Boomer would spend 10s of thousands restoring or even buying one of these things.

Blogger Nate January 21, 2019 12:10 PM  

@71

That was sarcasm homie.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother January 21, 2019 12:11 PM  

Sarcasm, Tars. Sarcasm. Any decade that sees Detroit put out a Corvette with 180 horsepower is not a good one.

For all of the problems happening now, the Hellcat Charger is a deliciously offensive silver lining.

Blogger Patrick Kelly January 21, 2019 12:12 PM  

"There is simply NO WAY that today's kids can work their way through college. "

Only if you think they are entitled to go to their elite school of choice away from home, live on campus, and graduate in 4 years.

I know kids who have and do still work their way. They live at home with supportive parents, start with a local 2yr school, and then transfer to a 4yr then graduate school if necessary. Some of them take longer than 2yrs to get that AA/AS degree, or longer than 4 to get the BA/BS

Many of them find adequate employment during or after those first 2 years and work their way progressively into better.

What they don't get is a guarantee that after they go to school for x years they will make enough $$ to buy a house, new car, get married, and raise kids, but neither did my parents, their parents, or just about anyone in my extended family I know about.

Most everyone struggled and fell along the way, finding some way to get back up and move on.

I have watched my kid and his millennial friends going through the same thing. The details may look different, but overall it's same as it ever was.

Blogger JMS January 21, 2019 12:14 PM  

Sounds to me like you belong to the cohort generation Jones.

https://infogalactic.com/info/Generation_Jones

Don't worry their are tons of people in the world born into marginal cohorts who sometimes have identity issues.

Myself I was born in 1977 and actually saw Nirvana live but have had ignorant boomers say I am a Millennial. Grr....

Blogger Random #57 January 21, 2019 12:18 PM  

@74 Patrick Kelly: What use are those 3rd to 4th tier college degrees? Except when lightening strikes, no use for a STEM career outside of the lower tiers of medicine. Sales, certainly. Not sure what else.

Blogger The Cooler January 21, 2019 12:18 PM  

The details may look different, but overall it's same as it ever was.

Help me, Jesus.

Blogger Robert Buchanan January 21, 2019 12:21 PM  

Richard Holmes wrote:I was 1 year old when JFK got assassinated.

Ergo, you're an early GenXer. The End.

SciVo wrote:Tim Cook is a mensch

As famously quoted upon receiving the very first "Courage Against Hate" award from the Anti-Defamation League last month: "We only have one message for those who seek to push hate, division, and violence: you have no place on our platforms. You have no home here. If we can't be clear on moral questions like these, then we’ve got big problems. [...] I believe the most sacred thing that each of us is given is our judgment, our morality, our own innate desire to separate right from wrong. Choosing to set that responsibility aside at a moment of trial is a sin."
Oy, such a mensch!

KPKinSunnyPhiladelpia wrote:You wouldn't have iPhones, the Internet, cheap computers, cars that don't break down in the middle of nowhwere, cheap airline flights, GPS satellites, effective cancer fighting drugs - just to mention a very very few sociental advances -- without Boomers who put their noses to the grindstone and WORKED.

Half of those advances were inherited from matures by boomers who rarefied, enhanced and popularized them.
Just accept that you were worthy heritors of the preceding generation's beaux arts, entertainment and sciences, and that your generation is otherwise politically and economically the most dedicatedly, disastrously dupable, clueless and selfish in the course of this nation's history.

Blogger Nate January 21, 2019 12:38 PM  

"I know kids who have and do still work their way."

no you don't. You know kids who work for a couple years while they are at a community college. What you don't know is that when they transfer the 4 year school fucks them out of their credits and makes them retake most of those classes. And there is no working your way those last 2 years. Stop talking out of your ass.

Blogger Nate January 21, 2019 12:39 PM  

"Tim Cook is a mensch"

Tim Cook is the lyingest liar that ever lied.

Blogger JMS January 21, 2019 12:49 PM  

"We fought before, now that we know our real enemy, we can do it again."

Was living in Seattle in the late '90' when the WTO riots aka Battle in Seattle broke out.

Kinda' the only time Gen X took up political activism/ direct action against Globalism and yes we need to do it again!

Blogger OneWingedShark January 21, 2019 12:53 PM  

Lazarus wrote:Gregory the Great wrote:Most evil thing they did was fall for the subversive free love etc. ideology of the Sixties.
As the Yuri Besmenov video stated, the KGB had a hand in all that ideological subversion and demoralization. It was aided and abetted by the CIA who introduced LSD to American youth.

The more I learn about the CIA, the more I think they're clearly the domestic enemies mentioned in the oath of enlistment. I would bet my entire life savings that they are guilty of Treason, protected only by deep-state tactics and their actions routinely being given classified status. (ie they use the classification system to hide illegal action.)

Arthur Isaac wrote:Millenials, slow to discover that for all the Boomers talk about how special they are the Boomers will still eat them at the first sign of a hard time. Welcome to the club, kids.
Oh, it's worse than that: our own parents will 'encourage' (read disparage) us because, for example, we have a hard time finding work. "Go in there, and be enthusiastic; even if it's Burger King, fill out that application like it's your life's dream to flip burgers", "Look the manager in the eye and give him a firm handshake" (despite the fact that thanks to the advent of "HR" and online applications, your chances of seeing the manager are essentially zero), I mean come on! Don't you know that you can quit your job, walk across the street, and get hired the same day!?

dienw wrote:The same class division and antics are occurring today and the poor and working class are still suffering. I stopped listening to Limbaugh in the late nineties after he went from pooh-poohing the impoverishment of the working class (retrain in tech) to crying about white-collar job loss.
Ah, yes, “retrain in tech”… the same jobs being given to foreigners in preference to citizens via H1B.

Blogger Nate January 21, 2019 12:58 PM  

"Ah, yes, “retrain in tech”… the same jobs being given to foreigners in preference to citizens via H1B."

Abdul can't weld.

Blogger JAG January 21, 2019 12:59 PM  

Cloom wrote:As Churchill supposedly said: Anybody who is not a socialist at 20 has no heart, anybody who is not a conservative at 40 has no brain.

Everyone should stop repeating that stupid binary subversion because it is liberals incorrectly implying the right has no heart, and making excuses for their evil leftist youth because they still think they are the charitable ones.

They are wrong on all counts.



Agreed. The saying would be more appropriate if it said instead that if you are 20 and NOT a socialist you have a brain. If you are 40 and NOT a socialist your brains still works.

Blogger Patrick Kelly January 21, 2019 12:59 PM  

"And there is no working your way those last 2 years. "

No, you don't know shit about who and what I'm talking about. The truth doesn't care whether you believe it or not.

I have friends with kids who graduated from UT while living at home and working their way after getting their 2yr degree at ACC. No, they didn't move away from home to party in the dorms and support themselves. These people exist. In fact the ones I have in mind obtained their BA after 4 years. I know others that spent 6 years to get their AA. Different efforts, different results.

You don't get fucked out of credits if you plan ahead and research what schools will accept, and don't take a long break before transferring to the BA/S program.

Maybe the ATX area has an exceptional community college compared to most places, but this happens often. There is a very close relationship between ACC and the state college and university system here in TX.

Whatever else I've ever posted here I have never lied or "talked out my ass" about specific examples or details like these.

ACC may well be a special snowflake school compared to the rest of the country, I have no way of knowing.

Blogger OneWingedShark January 21, 2019 1:09 PM  

Nate wrote:"Ah, yes, “retrain in tech”… the same jobs being given to foreigners in preference to citizens via H1B."

Abdul can't weld.

The problem with retraining in the trades [en masse] is that the flood of newbies will drive down wages, thus denying tradesmen the ability to make good money. I very much suspect that this is by design: the H1Bs being imported to eviscerate the middle-class by making it difficult to get jobs and, if you lose your job, making it difficult to get a new one: this drains their savings. (And there's the depressed wages, too.)

Stg58/Animal Mother wrote:Hahaha Detroit put out some real bad ass cars in the 1980's and 1990's.
I have a Diesel Oldsmobile from that era; very reliable, really good fuel mileage.

The Cooler wrote:As GenXer's we must get over our apathy and quit bitching from the sidelines while the world burns.

Much of it has to burn, though. We observe the blaze, when observing, to better grasp the principle of controlled burn.

Give us a minute, Millennials. But don't give us two.

The way I see it is there's going to be a burn; the question is whether or not it'll be controlled. The absolute entrenchment of corruption and refusal of our leaders to address it at all leans us toward 'uncontrolled', this is why I pray for leaders who will do justly, love mercy, and walk humbly with God: it's our only chance for a controlled burn.

FP wrote:I'm viewed as too extremist or an absolutist as we have arguments over if enforcing border laws is racist
I feel you on this point! My dad and siblings view me as extreme: thinking we should secure the border with A-10s and M-109s, and that best way to save lives is to wipe out the next 'caravan' -- most people don't know about how many people die trying to cross the desert, though Trump touched on the rape epidemic his stats are ridiculously low. (It's 60-80%, not 33%.)

Blogger Gregory the Great January 21, 2019 1:17 PM  

@65 Gen Kong. You wrote: "the later generations are if anything even more entrenched in the lies than their boomer predecessors are"
I agree

Blogger OneWingedShark January 21, 2019 1:22 PM  

Arthur Isaac wrote: You will soon end up with everything that the Boomers have.

A Prius with a dead battery and 36 months of financing and a $500 recycle fee? A carniceria in place of a 5 & 10 and a favella in place of a neighborhood. Thanks boomers!!!!

Don't forget the reverse mortgage on the three houses... so the banks can own them rather than their kids!

KPKinSunnyPhiladelpia wrote:without Boomers who put their noses to the grindstone and WORKED.
You don't get it: the Boomers destroyed a lot of the things that enabled you to "put your nose to the grindstone" and succeed -- take, for instance, the current corporate culture that's so utterly against training they would rather have an empty position for 18 months than hire and train someone, assuming the job-posting isn't H1B fraud. The Boomers killed training to such an extent that my current job is figuring out and maintaining a 60 year old telescope's computer infrastructure that has everything from vxWorks to Win7 to Solaris to Win98; all of the people who knew this stuff: retired or dead. My total train-up time: nine days. All of this because Boomers are absolute shit at teaching their successors and have zero respect for “institutional knowledge”.

Blogger Doktor Jeep January 21, 2019 1:28 PM  

"I'm Gen-X. I just sit on the sidelines and watch the world burn."

How did that Modern English song go?
Dream of better lives, the kind that never hate
Dropped in this state of imaginary grace
I made a pilgrimage to save this human race
Never comprehending a race that had long gone by

Or something like that.

Admittedly while there is much boomer hate to pass around, a lot of the organization cucking is from GenX management. That is, like when the Catholic school threw their students under the school bus while The Narrative was fresh - before it fell apart- I don't think it was some old boomer behind it. I will bet a case of Goslings Rum that it was a 40-something GenX-er who spent his whole life going along to get along and can't risk losing his job because he'll go to jail if he does not make that child support payment. Meaning he'll put people in gulags before he stands up.

We're all the problem. Even me.

Blogger Richard Holmes January 21, 2019 1:39 PM  

The Boomers killed training to such an extent that my current job is figuring out and maintaining a 60 year old telescope's computer infrastructure that has everything from vxWorks to Win7 to Solaris to Win98; all of the people who knew this stuff: retired or dead. My total train-up time: nine days. All of this because Boomers are absolute shit at teaching their successors and have zero respect for “institutional knowledge”.

This I HAVE seen. Any training I have received consisted of "Here is the prints, here is your meter and scope, have a computer and over there is the control that has to ship. Have fun!"

2 hours later - "What you're not done? It should only take you 2 hours to do that one!"

I feel your pain bro...

Blogger JAG January 21, 2019 1:43 PM  

Nate wrote:"I know kids who have and do still work their way."

no you don't. You know kids who work for a couple years while they are at a community college. What you don't know is that when they transfer the 4 year school fucks them out of their credits and makes them retake most of those classes. And there is no working your way those last 2 years. Stop talking out of your ass.



Can confirm. Got two Associate degrees with a 3.98 GPA. Applied to UNT, and they would not honor any of what I had already done.

Blogger FP January 21, 2019 1:46 PM  

"I will bet a case of Goslings Rum that it was a 40-something GenX-er who spent his whole life going along to get along and can't risk losing his job because he'll go to jail if he does not make that child support payment. Meaning he'll put people in gulags before he stands up.

We're all the problem. Even me. "

Right, I hate those types but I know where they're coming from. Yet who despite living through and seeing the results of those "family court" laws and still believe in them? Boomers. My own GOP voting mother about ten years ago stopped in her tracks when she saw my angry face and that I dared to contradict her support of Oregon's law requiring non custodial parents paying for their kid's college tuition. She had never thought what the consequences of those policies might be even as she is hearing the story about my brother in law being stuck paying for his kid's college bill, a kid who really didn't even want to be there. At least the government made the kids keep a C average. Didn't seem to even think that it might happen to her own son and her grandkids.

But the almighty STATE was going to make everyone equal despite it was the STATE that had helped create those broken families that are worse off compared to intact families.

Blogger Markku January 21, 2019 1:48 PM  

We were talking about generational things elsewhere, and someone found THE greatest thing on the entire Internet: http://incendar.com/baby_boomer_deathclock.php .

Blogger RobertT January 21, 2019 1:50 PM  

It's that coolness thing that's the most reprehensible. If you think you're cool, you aren't cool.

Blogger Nate January 21, 2019 1:53 PM  

"The problem with retraining in the trades [en masse] is that the flood of newbies will drive down wages, thus denying tradesmen the ability to make good money."

I'm not talking about everyone. I'm talking about one dude. Right now.

If you want a job and an income... you can go get a trade and make a great living. But you have to do it.

Blogger JAG January 21, 2019 1:55 PM  

Gregory the Great wrote:@65 Gen Kong. You wrote: "the later generations are if anything even more entrenched in the lies than their boomer predecessors are"

I agree


Impossible for GenX for the simple reason that there are far less of us than there are Boomers and Millennials. There's not enough of us to matter. That's why we sit on the sides and watch the world deservedly burn.

Blogger Damelon Brinn January 21, 2019 2:09 PM  

What you don't know is that when they transfer the 4 year school fucks them out of their credits and makes them retake most of those classes.

Yep, happened to my niece last year. It would be easy to say she should have made sure the credits would transfer, but a lot of kids don't know exactly what 4-year college they're going to attend, or are certain about their major. That's supposed to be one of the benefits of community college, that it lets you get started earning credits while you're still working that out. She trusted the confident assurances of the college counselors, and is paying for it.

I went to an out-of-state college in 1987 and paid $3500 for one semester of tuition and room-and-board. At minimum wage, that was about 1000 hours then. So you'd have to work 2000 hours/year to work your way through school. That's a lot, basically a full-time job. But it was *possible*, and I knew some people who did it, working a couple of part-time jobs whenever they weren't in class. The same deal at that college is now over $17K/semester, which means over 2000 hours of work per semester at minimum wage. That's not possible, no matter how hard a worker you are.

Blogger KPKinSunnyPhiladelpia January 21, 2019 2:14 PM  

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Blogger KPKinSunnyPhiladelpia January 21, 2019 2:19 PM  

Robert Buchanan wrote:

Just accept that you were worthy heritors of the preceding generation's beaux arts, entertainment and sciences, and that your generation is otherwise politically and economically the most dedicatedly, disastrously dupable, clueless and selfish in the course of this nation's history.

Really? -- "inheritors?" ALL advancement from the Renaissance on is inheritance to some degree, and to disdain -- as you seem to be doing -- follow-on enhancements is the height of folly.

I'll be sure to let Ray Kurzweil (b 1948) James Allison (b. 1948) Deam Kamen (b. 1951) and Robert Langer (b.1948) know how you damn their contributions with your haughty faint praise.

Meanwhile, your sense of history is sorely lacking. The WORST generations in American history are actually those who allowed slavey and the importation of millions of sub-Saharan Africans as costless labor. Tocqueville immediately understood the long term catastrophe that would ensue -- and if a Frenchman understands it's a bad idea, you know it's a REALLY bad idea.

We paid for the folly of those generations with 600,000 lives and endless decades of racial trouble.

As Douglas Murray has said, when you import the world's people, you import the world's problems. YOUR generation of SJWs has yet to figure that one out.

But hey, don't let history keep you from your superficial judgments.

Blogger Jack Amok January 21, 2019 2:22 PM  

If you want a job and an income... you can go get a trade and make a great living. But you have to do it.

A big ol' ray of hope I see is the return of "shop" to the High School age curriculum. Not so much through the schools, oh no, might get in the way of AP courses. It's the after-school Robotics programs. My son is on a robotics team. It's semi-sponsored by the local High School, but you don't have to attend the school to be on the team (just have to be the right age and live in the district).

They mill their own parts on CNC machines, 3D printers, and plasma cutters. They design the parts, CAD everything out, assemble it, drive it, fix it, improve it...

Blogger Nate January 21, 2019 2:25 PM  

"But hey, don't let history keep you from your superficial judgments."

oh... so... you're not dead yet then?

pity.

Blogger Hammerli280 January 21, 2019 2:26 PM  

@97: A kid who has no idea of what school they want to attend, or their major, has absolutely no business in college.

It seems that a lot of people graduate from high school and figure on spending the next five years or so partying, doping, and generally squandering their lives - instead of putting in the hard work that will let them have a decent future.

And you can't succeed in life by doing that. As a culture, we fill the kids' heads with the "These are the best years of your life" garbage, instead of telling them the hard truth - that if they screw it up between 15 and 25, the rest of their life will be miserable. OTOH, diligence and discipline in those years will reap rich rewards.

Blogger Nate January 21, 2019 2:29 PM  

"It seems that a lot of people graduate from high school and figure on spending the next five years or so partying, doping, and generally squandering their lives - instead of putting in the hard work that will let them have a decent future."

That was certainly true for the millennials. Much less so for Gen Z.

Now quick. who told the Millennials that?

Blogger Tars Tarkusz January 21, 2019 2:34 PM  

If you can remember JFK getting shot, you are not an Xer.

Nate wrote:"I know kids who have and do still work their way."

no you don't. You know kids who work for a couple years while they are at a community college.


All of those diversity and minority departments cost money! Someone has to pay.

Abdul can't code either.

My millennial niece is in college and living in a dorm off campus entirely at the college's expense. She and her 2 younger brothers had mostly free Catholic school and 1 of the brothers will be going to college for free next year and the following year the youngest will probably do the same thing.

Blogger Gen. Kong January 21, 2019 2:36 PM  

I feel you on this point! My dad and siblings view me as extreme: thinking we should secure the border with A-10s and M-109s, and that best way to save lives is to wipe out the next 'caravan' -- most people don't know about how many people die trying to cross the desert, though Trump touched on the rape epidemic his stats are ridiculously low.

You wouldn't even have to go that far. Just use the USMC sniper team to pick off all of the "journalists" covering the event and the organizers on the Soros payroll. They should be pretty obvious: Either Jews of Yankee trust-fund assholes from the coasts, plus a few loudmouth diversities to make it multi-culti (like the Occasional Cortex). One shot, one kill. Once the journos and "community organizers" are liquidated, the rest of the "chillren" (military-age males for the most part) will flee south - probably back to the cartels. Of course, since they're an invading force, caedite eos is perfectly acceptable too. Let the condors feast on their carcasses.

Blogger cheddarman January 21, 2019 2:39 PM  

Boomers whole heartedly embraced the lies of cultural marxism. They trashed the culture. Look at america from when they came of age until now. It has been a train wreck.

Blogger Jack Amok January 21, 2019 2:42 PM  

I went to an out-of-state college in 1987 and paid $3500 for one semester of tuition and room-and-board. At minimum wage...it was *possible*, and I knew some people who did it, working a couple of part-time jobs whenever they weren't in class. The same deal at that college is now over $17K/semester...

Yep, I worked pretty much full-time going to college back in the late 80's (and my parents pitched in to help with rent since the local school didn't have a good engineering program). I still remember when I graduated and just started working full time - I had so much free time! I made it through with zero debt, but it wasn't easy then.

It's almost impossible now. Tuition is too damn high. College administrators better figure out how to keep a low profile or they might have some Louis XVI moments.

As far as getting screwed out of transfer units, it's a dicey game. Nate and Patrick Kelly are both right - most schools will try their damndest to screw a kid out of his credits, but some planning and playing the game help minimize it. For example, a bunch of families in my circle have their 16 and 17 year olds in the Running Start program - instead of the last two years of High School, they go to community college. Work it right and you get a high school diploma and a year+ worth of college credit. But, you really want to go to the comm. coll. associated with local University and then transfer to that school - they'll honor the credits because they're playing the game and capturing your kids share of Public School dollars, so they're okay with it.

Blogger SciVo January 21, 2019 2:44 PM  

Nate wrote:"Tim Cook is a mensch"

Tim Cook is the lyingest liar that ever lied.


Oops, I was thinking of Tim Pool, the Millennial center-leftist vlogger, who is very honest. I don't even know who Tim Cook is.

Blogger Tars Tarkusz January 21, 2019 2:52 PM  

The training issue is a big one. We have far too many kids in college. Shit, we have way too many kids graduating high school. What they need is on the job training while they are young and can work cheap.

The destruction of the myth of equality is widespread. They have made a HS diploma almost worthless. There are illiterate people graduating from public schools. They will fight tooth and nail and break every rule to see to it that a kid graduates HS, as if that diploma is a magic talisman. If you have to fight with a kid just to get him to show up and who otherwise doesn't do work or cannot do the work, you are simply ruining the chances of the kid who shows up every day and can do the work.

Of course, not being satisfied with destroying public education at the HS level, they now do the same thing with college. They have easy courses where you don't even have to show up. The only real skill you need is to regurgitate ethnic or gender resentment and anger. These kids are not getting educated, they are being given a magic charm, which sadly works for a lot of them. The cost of having these people around is not merely their sloth. They inject poison into everything and drive away the good people.

My father had a real HS diploma and an associates degree from a local college and he was better educated that the vast majority of kids today. He went to school during a time where if you slacked off, you got kicked out. The curriculum was a lot more relevant then too. The remediation rate in US colleges has steadily climbed in the last few decades.

In DC, in the class of 2017, there was a huge feel-good story where every kid graduated and went to college. Of course, the following year it was revealed that it was one giant fantasy of lies and deception and kids being pushed through without doing any of the work. There are now entire schools where not a single child can read or compute at grade level.

The whole school system needs to burned to the ground.

Blogger Gregory the Great January 21, 2019 2:59 PM  

An afterthought to my own post from earlier today: I would love to hear Owen Benjamin doing a Dylan parody on: Forever dumb, forever dumb, oh may you stay forever dumb...

Blogger Nate January 21, 2019 3:03 PM  

"Oops, I was thinking of Tim Pool, the Millennial center-leftist vlogger, who is very honest. I don't even know who Tim Cook is."

Tim Cook is the gay CEO of Apple.

Blogger Gen. Kong January 21, 2019 3:10 PM  

KPKinSunnyPhiladelpia wrote:

Meanwhile, your sense of history is sorely lacking. The WORST generations in American history are actually those who allowed slavey and the importation of millions of sub-Saharan Africans as costless labor. Tocqueville immediately understood the long term catastrophe that would ensue -- and if a Frenchman understands it's a bad idea, you know it's a REALLY bad idea.

We paid for the folly of those generations with 600,000 lives and endless decades of racial trouble.

As Douglas Murray has said, when you import the world's people, you import the world's problems. YOUR generation of SJWs has yet to figure that one out.

But hey, don't let history keep you from your superficial judgments.


It's very easy to lose sight of the big picture and instead resort to inter-generational blame arguments. All are guilty - including boomers. We can discuss degrees of guilt later. The (((Portuguese))) who sold the greedy English fools in Jamestown on the notion of getting something for nothing (e.g. slave labor), their (((bankster relatives))) who sold the Post-Christian 19th century Yankees in New England on the notion of abolitionism as some sort of gospel mission (slavery is not condemned per se in the scripture), who then proceeded to invade half the country with armies (made up of large numbers of immigrant Irish and Germans); while other (((liars))) sold idiots in the south on the notion that the 'peculiar institution' should be expanded to the west (something defenders of the confederates often conveniently forget). That's a good goy, go kill those other goys over there ... because they're to blame for Uncle Tom's Cabin. Fast-forward to 1968 and a shiny-new shit-sandwich of recycled lies is being marketed by the (((owners of culture))) - See that shit? It's really GOLD!!!! - to a generation born into post-war boom times, who are indoctrinated and marinated in lies practically from birth. What does the title of a well-known book say about some folks that never tell the truth?? They always lie. - regardless of whether it's the (((Synagogue of Satan))) or willing accomplices in crimes (who are in a sense even worse). They lie. Every. single. time. Stop listening to them for there is no truth in them.

Blogger OneWingedShark January 21, 2019 3:18 PM  

Gen. Kong wrote:I feel you on this point! My dad and siblings view me as extreme: thinking we should secure the border with A-10s and M-109s, and that best way to save lives is to wipe out the next 'caravan' -- most people don't know about how many people die trying to cross the desert, though Trump touched on the rape epidemic his stats are ridiculously low.

You wouldn't even have to go that far. Just use the USMC sniper team to pick off all of the "journalists" covering the event and the organizers on the Soros payroll. They should be pretty obvious: Either Jews of Yankee trust-fund assholes from the coasts, plus a few loudmouth diversities to make it multi-culti (like the Occasional Cortex). One shot, one kill. Once the journos and "community organizers" are liquidated, the rest of the "chillren" (military-age males for the most part) will flee south - probably back to the cartels. Of course, since they're an invading force, caedite eos is perfectly acceptable too. Let the condors feast on their carcasses.

I like your idea; but I'd go the other direction: invite all the press to watch, in the briefing let out the "throwaway line" that there could be consequences for 'putting spin' on the story... then when they are horrified and print stories of how terrible it is, slap them down with the law. Of course their stories would also stir up the HoR to Impeach the President (they absolutely couldn't resist after the MSM echo-chamber is so horrified of upholding Constitutional obligations), and after they vote on it arrest the 'aye'-voters with Treason charges: and this would be a slam dunk, the voter-role is itself witness of every voter to every other voter.

TL;DR -- I'm more in favor of clearing out huge swaths of our enemies with one stroke.

Blogger Gen. Kong January 21, 2019 3:25 PM  

Oh, and speaking of shit-sandwiches, here's one the Millennials (and their idiot boomer parents) were sold on: You really need that college degree to get a decent job and make a good living. Just sign on these nice low-low interest loans here... Shit-sandwiches and Rev. Jones' grape-drank - the perfect lunch! As Orcah's fav head-shrinker Doc Phil sez on the TeeeVeee: How's dat workin' for ya?

Blogger Brian O'Brien January 21, 2019 3:44 PM  

The government policies that will return the American Dream of prosperity to Gen Xers, Milllennials, and ensuing generations are simple. They are the policies that brought prosperity to America in the first place.

These policies are:

1. Protect American industry and businesses with high tariffs. Imports from low-wage nations (China and the Third World) and nations that protect and subsidize their own industries (Japan, Korea, Germany, etc.) have hollowed out the American economy, reduced available jobs and collapsed American wages. Tariffs allow new American businesses to form, thrive and hire more workers. Tariffs can provide revenue to the government for things like new infrastructure and shoring up Social Security without raising income taxes. The economic system of protectionism through tariffs was once called the American System, which was opposed to the British System of imperialism and free trade.

2. Restrict immigration. Our extremely high immigration rate of over 1 million immigrants a year increases the labor supply and puts downward pressure on wages. Ending immigration would shift the balance of power away from businesses and back to workers, putting upward pressure on wages. Immigration also increases prices for life's necessities, like housing, food, transportation, etc. Ending immigration would increase wages and make housing affordable again.

3. End the wars. America's role as World Police is killing us, literally. Bring the troops home and let other countries fight their own battles. We need to restructure the American military toward defending the North American continent and not Europe, Japan, Korea, Africa, etc. Our nation's favorable geography puts us in an easily defensible position versus the other great powers. We should return our foreign policy to one of neutrality and national defense and forget trying to shape the world into some kind of neo-liberal corporatist paradise. Our defense dollars should go to a powerful Navy that defends our coastal waters and territories, the world's greatest Air Force with bases only on American territories, a small Army heavily weighted toward the National Guard and Reserves, and a strong nuclear deterrent. No nation would be ever be stupid enough to attack us militarily.

4. Monetary reform. Multi-national banks have too much control over our money supply. They create our money supply through the issuance of debt, which means they are enriching themselves through usury at the expense of American workers, businesses and taxpayers. The Federal Reserve System is a sham that's siphoning off the wealth of our nation into the pockets of international usurers and speculators. A non-debt-based monetary system is possible to design. We need to end the Federal Reserve System and return to a Constitutional monetary system that serves Main Street and the American people rather than Wall Street and international bankers. More about what that type of monetary system would look like here: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B010RUSJUA.

The policies that would rekindle the American Dream are simple. But the politics is hard because the people who rule us control the issuance and distribution of money, they control the media and our politicians and academia. They have armies of think tankers to shout down and smear anyone who wants tariffs and is skeptical of free trade, wants to restrict immigration, is antiwar, or criticizes the corrupt Federal Reserve System and banks. We are bombarded daily with free trade, immigration, pro-war and banker propaganda from our "fake news" media. It's going to take a national movement and a rejection of the media and status quo. But it's going to happen sooner or later because the current system of free trade, mass immigration, war and debt is failing us. Our rulers have become hopelessly arrogant and corrupt. Populism is inevitable.

Blogger Arthur Isaac January 21, 2019 3:52 PM  

Tim Cook is the gay CEO of Apple who spoke of Tikkuning the Olam at the ADL conference also making him a "mensch" from what I gather. I was wondering about you for a bit SciVo...

Blogger Arthur Isaac January 21, 2019 3:55 PM  

And John Stossel is the ex-ABC 20/20 reporter who decided he was a libertarian. He worships open markets and open borders because it means our kids won't have to work in Mike Rowe type jobs.

Blogger Noah B The Savage Gardener January 21, 2019 4:14 PM  

I'm not talking about everyone. I'm talking about one dude. Right now.

If you want a job and an income... you can go get a trade and make a great living. But you have to do it.


I know a guy who is making a pretty good living just building and repairing fences. No special training required, just takes some pretty basic knowledge and a willingness to work.

It's easy to get bogged down in negativity, but for the time being there are lots of opportunities out there.

Anonymous Anonymous January 21, 2019 4:21 PM  

@93

You're damn right, Markku; that is one of the greatest things ever seen on this here internet.

Blogger Freeholder January 21, 2019 4:26 PM  

Another real world example of college costs. #1 son is about to go to college at state school. He knows his program. He knows exactly what courses to take. He is exactly the path that people are recommending. 13K a semester for dorm and minimum food. That doesn't include the needed high end laptop. That doesn't include the money for class required travel. Of course, class required travel is going to interfere with that part time job. Part time jobs in his community are obviously paying just minimum wage since there is a large pool of candidates. 7.25 an hours at 2000 hours a year is 15K, just enough for one semester. It would be impossible for his to work his way thru college without any debt. I am planning on paying half myself. Hopefully convince his mother to pay something. And see how many scholarships he gets.....

Blogger Nate January 21, 2019 4:29 PM  

"As Douglas Murray has said, when you import the world's people, you import the world's problems."

Hey there sugar tits... Your generation is the generation of dumbasses that changed the immigration system in favor of the street shitters. And your generation is the one that raised the idiot millennials to be idiot millennials.

Maybe you should have considered for one second that maybe... just maybe... some generation before yours had a very good reason for doing what they did and maybe.. just maybe.. you shouldn't fuck it up.

But no. You couldn't consider that. Because you're a useless damn Baby Boomer.

Now die already.

Blogger Nate January 21, 2019 4:30 PM  

"Get over yourself. Get a job and make a living. Holy Shit!!"

zip it. There are worse decisions than this one. Sitting around and watching it burn is pretty damn comfortable to be honest

Blogger OneWingedShark January 21, 2019 4:31 PM  

Freeholder wrote:It would be impossible for his to work his way thru college without any debt. I am planning on paying half myself. Hopefully convince his mother to pay something. And see how many scholarships he gets.....
Perhaps going National Guard; they had a pretty good program for scholarships about 2000, plus a student-loan repayment program, it might be possible to leverage all that to graduate with no debt.

Blogger Freeholder January 21, 2019 4:42 PM  

@124, In a different time maybe but I honestly can't suggest he put on the uniform in today's politically ass covering days. I sadly had to make the same decision to not join under the Clinton administration. For me it probably would have ended in an article 134.

Blogger dienw January 21, 2019 4:48 PM  

Just back from the local coffee shop: I am a Boomer; but...the generation that has inflicted Kombucha on this society; let it be cursed and pass from history unremarked upon: that stuff is some godawful shit.

Blogger dienw January 21, 2019 4:52 PM  

@125 ZotZotDig
No insurance. No siblings. No uncles. No aunts. No grandparents.

God bless you and keep you all the days of your life and set you amongst a family.

Blogger eclecticme January 21, 2019 4:53 PM  

I read an article a while back about state college tuitions then (early 70s?) and now. Back then to pay for 1 semester credit working at minimum wage it took X hours. Now it takes 6 times that. Sorry, no link.

Blogger rumpole5 January 21, 2019 5:06 PM  

Re: "Prius with a dead battery". My Prius works just fine, and it is paid off. If God spares my life a few more years I will have my Millennial's grad student loans paid off and when I go, he can sell one of my two paid off houses, sell the acerage, cash in the Morgan Stanley and Vanguard accounts, and live large. He also won't have to spend his inheritance (as I did) on a nursing home for a senile parent because I bought a long term care policy so that my money will go to him rather than the nursing care bills. Like I said, you will like us prudent Boomers a lot more than the "Woodstock/peacenic" variety. There are a lot of us. We just didn't get as much press.

Blogger rumpole5 January 21, 2019 5:11 PM  

"Set a goal and stop worrying about who came before you, what they did, what they didn't do. Be prudent with your money. Don't take drugs. Work your ass off."

AMEN Brother Zot! Wisdom from a sage.

Blogger rumpole5 January 21, 2019 5:33 PM  

"Boomers whole heartedly embraced the lies of cultural marxism." I'm sorry Mr. Cheesehead, but you are just wrong about that. Ronald Reagan, (hardly a Marx devotee) was put into office by a plurality of Boomer voters. Rush Limbaugh (NOT a Marx devotee) is --- a Boomer, the present God Emperor himself is --- a Boomer, and he, like Reagan, was put into office by Boomer voters. Please go check out the demographics of the Reagan and Trump voters and see for yourself. The problem is that sensible Boomers were too busy founding and patronizing Classical Christian private schools and homeschooling our kids to get much press. Don't worry, the dissipated Boomer faction can't last much longer. Their immune systems have to be completely shot from all of the STDs, and their livers are rotted by all of the hard drugs, booze, and Hep C. Just be patient, not long now.

Blogger John January 21, 2019 5:43 PM  

@99 The WORST generations in American history are actually those who allowed slavey and the importation of millions of sub-Saharan Africans as costless labor.

LOL, they imported what…2 or 3 million TOTAL. You guy guys import that many xenos every two fucking years!

Blogger Arthur Isaac January 21, 2019 5:56 PM  

I liked this one in particular:

Get a clue. Get off your f@cking asses and quit moaning.

Said the guy from the generation that gave us the sit-in the college "free-speech" movement, that famously said "never trust anyone over 30" and proceeded to burn the dividends of the longest era of peace in a pique of "self-actualization".

Do as we say not as we do? Where is the f@cking woodchipper? I'm tired of "moaning" about boomers. I hear being compost is the new 30.

Blogger Lance E January 21, 2019 6:26 PM  

rumpole5 wrote:"Boomers whole heartedly embraced the lies of cultural marxism." I'm sorry Mr. Cheesehead, but you are just wrong about that. Ronald Reagan, (hardly a Marx devotee) was put into office by a plurality of Boomer voters. Rush Limbaugh (NOT a Marx devotee) is --- a Boomer, the present God Emperor himself is --- a Boomer, and he, like Reagan, was put into office by Boomer voters. Please go check out the demographics of the Reagan and Trump voters and see for yourself.

Boomers just can't resist stereotyping themselves in every thread about Boomers.

BUT MUUUUUH REAAAAGAAAN

Blogger OneWingedShark January 21, 2019 7:10 PM  

Lance E wrote:Boomers just can't resist stereotyping themselves in every thread about Boomers.

BUT MUUUUUH REAAAAGAAAN AMNESTY!

FTFY.

I can't imagine they'd be happy to realize their great Reagan was either totally hoodwinked or in on the destruction of America.

Blogger dienw January 21, 2019 7:30 PM  

I can't imagine they'd be happy to realize their great Reagan was either totally hoodwinked or in on the destruction of America.

Hoodwinked. If it was after the assassination attempt, in fear for his life.

Blogger Doktor Jeep January 21, 2019 7:40 PM  

You know what a good fictional display of the "GenX attitude" would be?

I would nominate the character named Beorn from Lord of the Rings as an example. The movies only captured part of his mindset. What is a GenXer like? Beorn.
Especially in the book when he sat on a rock and pondered the end of all orcs...

Blogger Damelon Brinn January 21, 2019 8:10 PM  

Looks like the Boomers got a late start on this thread. Bingo in the activity room must have been this afternoon.

Blogger rumpole5 January 21, 2019 8:56 PM  

Re: "I can't imagine they'd be happy to realize their great Reagan was either totally hoodwinked or in on the destruction of America."

Point made, he was probably hoodwinked. However, I was addressing the issue of whether Boomer wholeheartedly adopted Marxism. Enough anti marxist Boomers existed to elect two anti marxist presidents. Therefore, the whole Boomer generation did not endorse Marxism.

Addressing Millennials is difficult because so many of them drift off topic. It is classic loose association, an indication of cognitive impairment. I blame too strong marijuana at too young an age coupled with our screwed up government school system.

Blogger rumpole5 January 21, 2019 8:58 PM  

Oh, and bingo is Tuesday, not Monday, and then only when we are in the Cayman Islands.

Blogger justaguy January 21, 2019 9:00 PM  

I wonder where many of the disappointed children of the Boomers who are unhappy that world wasn't actually made up of rainbows and unicorns and who are complaining it is harder now-- where do they fit on the intelligence scale for their generation. The Boomers who did well were the smart ones, the ones with cultural capital and those very very few rich ones.

Whenever I hear/see/read a crying youngster talk about how it is unfair because it is harder now-- I wonder if he is in the top 20-25% intellectually as those boomers who initially went to college or what cultural capital they were given? We do give our progeny cultural capital and it often works.

I also wonder how many of these whiners are mad because everything that their progressive education taught them (k-16) isn't true and didn't work out. Kinda like the women of the boomers who listened to the education that said to be happy-- go to college and try to be a career girl-- real happy when they hit the wall.

Of course the happy rich few, the few true Chads who have harems, and the elites like it when the masses enslave themselves by listening to their propaganda.

Of course I don't have any data on how the smart 5-10% (SD +1.5 to 4-) are doing in this highly technical world compared to the 1970s and 1980s. I think that the elites of the past have been deposed by the cognitive elite-- but that is just a guess.

Blogger Robert Buchanan January 21, 2019 9:24 PM  

KPKinSunnyPhiladelpia wrote:Really? -- "inheritors?" ALL advancement from the Renaissance on is inheritance to some degree, and to disdain -- as you seem to be doing -- follow-on enhancements is the height of folly.

So delicate is your sensibility that you can't even accept a genuine compliment. You people could never escape the shadow of The Greatest Generation, and it still palpably rankles you. Ridiculous.

I'll be sure to let Ray Kurzweil (b 1948) James Allison (b. 1948) Deam Kamen (b. 1951) and Robert Langer (b.1948) know how you damn their contributions with your haughty faint praise.

No, I didn't. I've derogated some of his lackluster speculative literature, but also expressed enormous esteem otherwise for Kurzweil's contributions to computing since I was a teenager.

Meanwhile, your sense of history is sorely lacking.

I'm isolating this to contextualize the dumbfounding enormity of what follows.

The WORST generations in American history are actually those who allowed slavey and the importation of millions of sub-Saharan Africans as costless labor. Tocqueville immediately understood the long term catastrophe that would ensue -- and if a Frenchman understands it's a bad idea, you know it's a REALLY bad idea.

Therefore, our founding fathers and the pioneers who ranged, surveyed and constituted this country were among the worst Americans in its history for participating in a relatively tiny fraction of the global slave trade. Roots really stirred you, did it?

We paid for the folly of those generations with 600,000 lives

You actually believe the Civil War was occasioned by a single factor, or could be blamed on every anterior generation since the foundation! LOL

and endless decades of racial trouble.

Contemporarily, most of that is imputable to an incessant placation of crybullies for which your generation is initially and most grossly responsible.
Thanks for so perfectly personifying your stereotype and parroting a televised narrative of U.S. history.

As Douglas Murray has said, when you import the world's people, you import the world's problems.

Matures opened the floodgates, but most boomers did nothing to shut them; you queers championed Reagan for years after his amnesty established a ruinous precedent, and ensured that the likes of McCain would (in perfect adherence to the boomer idiom) hold public office until his cancer proved itself a nobler American. As always, if it doesn't effect you with negative immediacy, it doesn't exist.

YOUR generation of SJWs has yet to figure that one out.

I'm not a millennial.

But hey, don't let history keep you from your superficial judgments.

Stupefyingly incorrigible, you really are the pluperfect boomer: blatantly hypocritical, hypersensitive, utterly susceptible to whatever corporate news outlets tell you and ignorant of what they won't.

Blogger Dirk Manly January 21, 2019 9:32 PM  

@45

"It is probably for the best. It is so annoying listening to these 2 other generations ramble on, especially Millennials about how racist or sexist we are and how they are going to save the society. It's hard to feel bad for them when they are so pompous."

The best way to shut up one of those left Millennials is: "That sounds exactly like what Baby Boomers say, but 10x more stupid."

Blogger Dirk Manly January 21, 2019 9:42 PM  

@60

"Millennial/GenZ: Bitch moan complain.
GenX: I know. What can I do to help?

This is the sea change."

Just remember ... since I was in high school (early 80's), the Boomers were agitating for legalizing euthanasia.

They're gonna get it, good and hard.

Blogger Dirk Manly January 21, 2019 9:59 PM  

@74

"I know kids who have and do still work their way. They live at home with supportive parents, start with a local 2yr school, and then transfer to a 4yr then graduate school if necessary. "

BULLSHIT.

Transferring from a barely-any-standards community college does NOT prepare a student for the classwork at a 4-year university with standards high enough that their degrees actually open doors.

And it's not because the instructors are lackadaisical -- it's because the ADMINISTRATORS insist that not too many students be flunked. And so sub-standard performance is rewarded with a C... or even a B.

I saw what happened to junior-year transfers when I was at Purdue... few lasted until their senior year.

And if they are trying to go into any sort of STEM field... trying to pick up on the systems in their junior year that their classmates have been for 2 years already, is a recipe for disaster.

And working their way through those last two years? Well, no such thing, as NOBODY gets a STEM degree in 4 years any more -- there's literally too much to absorb in that amount of time. Even by the mid 1980's, STEM degrees were taking 5 years to complete. And NOTHING has made it easier since then.

And work enough to pay $20,000/year in tuition, rent, and food?

How? By beating the Jordan Peterson record for days without sleep, grabbing a quick nap every 4 weeks?

You are so full of it.

Go slither on back to whatever rock you've been hiding under, and take your luciferian nonsense with you.

Blogger Dirk Manly January 21, 2019 10:04 PM  

@83

"Abdul can't weld."

Welding should be done by humans as rarely as possible. Inhaling vaporized metal destroys the lungs.

That's why I said that, if I were younger, I would go into UNDERWATER welding. Because the water and the scuba gear protect the welder from having his lungs screwed up.

Blogger Nate January 21, 2019 10:09 PM  

'Welding should be done by humans as rarely as possible. Inhaling vaporized metal destroys the lungs.'

Shut the fuck up Dirk. You're an idiot. Everyone here knows you're an idiot. Every time yo comment you reinforce the conviction that you are an idiot.

Blogger Dirk Manly January 21, 2019 10:12 PM  

@89

"Admittedly while there is much boomer hate to pass around, a lot of the organization cucking is from GenX management."

Do this retarded Boomer-la-la-land shit, or be fired.

What do you expect the GenX middle management type to do, when faced with the prospect of unemployment, losing his home, and vehicle (to even look for a new job) for failing to go along with that B.S.

And if you point at the social media companies.... yes, a GenX guy might be the CEO -- but any publicly held company's CEO continues to go to work at the company at the discretion of the Board of Directors, which, invariably, will be Boomertards.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash January 21, 2019 10:34 PM  

@KPKinSunnyPhiladelpia,
While the prosecutor is reading the indictment is the wrong time to demonstrate their validity for judge and jury

Blogger Snidely Whiplash January 21, 2019 10:40 PM  

Nate wrote:'Welding should be done by humans as rarely as possible. Inhaling vaporized metal destroys the lungs.'

Shut the fuck up Dirk. You're an idiot. Everyone here knows you're an idiot. Every time yo comment you reinforce the conviction that you are an idiot.


As proof, the death rate for underwater welders is 5 per year, or about .2% of the people in the trade. It's one of the most dangerous jobs in the world, and considerably higher than terrestrial welding. Only a fucktard would take up underwater welding because terrestrial welding was too dangerous. Only a Boomer fucktard like you, always happy to demonstrate his incompetence in every circumstance, would counsel young people to take it up as a profession for safety's sake.

Blogger Dirk Manly January 21, 2019 10:42 PM  

@142
"I wonder where many of the disappointed children of the Boomers who are unhappy that world wasn't actually made up of rainbows and unicorns and who are complaining it is harder now-- where do they fit on the intelligence scale for their generation. The Boomers who did well were the smart ones, the ones with cultural capital and those very very few rich ones.

[more blah blah deleted]"

Look, asshole. NOBODY is complaining that life is hard. What they're complaining about is that YOU ASSHOLES set out to destroy society, ACCOMPLISHED that destruction, and now when you get called out on destroying the society, you all respond with "Who, us? You're crazy! The reason you're not working a decent job is because you're lazy, not because we outsourced all the work to India and China, and you're uneducated, because you're stupid, not because we DESTROYED both the K-12 schools AND the universities."

Fuck off and die, you pathological liar.

Blogger Dirk Manly January 21, 2019 10:48 PM  

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Blogger CYGNUS FACETIOUS January 21, 2019 10:50 PM  

KPKinSunnyPhiladelpia wrote:I like this board, most of the commentors, and VD of course -- as I've said elsewhere, he's a prick, but he's OUR prick.

(((But))) this Boomer bashing is tiresome. The boomers ruined everything? Boo fucking hoo. Look at VD and his mini-empire. Get a clue. Get off your fucking asses and quit moaning.

You wouldn't have ...-- without Boomers who put their noses to the grindstone and WORKED.

And I have (((the nose))) -- and a couple of well adjusted kids -- to prove it.

Now there is a lot about my generation I am not partcularly proud of. Do the complaints have validity? Sure.

(((But))) when you're pushing 7 decades of earthly existence, you realize not everything is utopia. You, too, will fuck up, and you may seriously fuck up.

So, yeah, go ahead bitch and moan. When you finish your day's worth of complaining, you'll get up the next day and find the same world in front of you.

Deal with it.



Damelon Brinn wrote:Then Millennials came along and made it suck with social media.


In the absence of an irony-posting "/s", behold: The Gamma Boomer cries out as he hits you.

Damelon Brinn wrote:Then Millennials came along and made it suck with social media.
Which Boomers created, toward their octegenarian orgy colonies in the automated AI panopticon.

Tars Tarkusz wrote:The destruction of the myth of equality is widespread. They have made a HS diploma almost worthless. There are illiterate people graduating from public schools.
The cattle aren't the problem,-- it's making sure the bulls are consistently gelded into pliable oxen from an early, yolked age.

Blogger JMS January 21, 2019 11:03 PM  

Actually it was Gen Xers that put Reagan into office. He got a record 'youth vote' and the youth at that time were Xers!

Blogger Robert Buchanan January 21, 2019 11:15 PM  

Dirk Manly wrote:@83if I were younger, I would go into UNDERWATER welding. Because the water and the scuba gear protect the welder from having his lungs screwed up.

Is most of that work to be found in construction or repair?

Dirk Manly wrote:@89And if you point at the social media companies.... yes, a GenX guy might be the CEO -- but any publicly held company's CEO continues to go to work at the company at the discretion of the Board of Directors, which, invariably, will be Boomertards.

That's true, but in especially rarefied instances such as baizuo Dorsey, crypto-tribalist Zuckerberg or Faggotron 5000 Model: TimCook, there's no denying that they hew to boomer managerial dysfunction to satisfy political agenda.

Blogger Damelon Brinn January 21, 2019 11:18 PM  

Most people start Gen X in 1964, which would make them all too young to vote Reagan into office. Some go back as far as 1961, but then you're really into Gen Jones or borderline Boomers.

We did have a vote in 1980 in my 6th grade classroom, though. Carter won in a landslide, because most of us were farm kids, and we'd heard he was a peanut farmer. Thus was the extent of our civics education.

Blogger justaguy January 21, 2019 11:39 PM  

Dirk Manly: Sorry if you don't like my poor boomer comments.... But I am bringing up having the intellect to get a college degree where you learn something. Murray thought only 15% (1SD or higher) could do "real" college work.

For your BS about it takes more than 4 years for a STEM degree-- if so, you probably aren't smart enough for STEM-- go find a trade or a business degree. Sorry a low midwit shouldn't trey to be an engineer-- some things take top 10% brains. When 25% went to college-- you normally had smart people. When 70% go to college-- you have a bunch of idiots who get taken advantage of by signing too many college loans for promises of unicorn farts.

Ignore the top top incomes, but a good middle class is getting to the top 20%, the highest quintile. It doesn't take very much income to get there-- but only 20% of households get there. In 2015, that was $112K for top 20% for a household. Earning $72K per household was enough for the fourth quintile.

It seems to me, too many younger generations who don't have the cultural capital (work ethic) or the smarts to keep a job So quit whining about my generation while I spend MY social security from YOUR Taxes and work. Why should we think it meets your definition of fair.

It may suck that you complete with 20+ million smart people from the rest of the world that moved here-- that was Teddy Kennedy and anyone who ever voted for a D. Someone has to pay taxes....

Blogger Nate January 22, 2019 12:03 AM  

"Is most of that work to be found in construction or repair?"

dont' engage the moron. he's talking about choosing the one of the most dangerous jobs in the world... because safety.


Blogger Nate January 22, 2019 12:04 AM  

"Actually it was Gen Xers that put Reagan into office. He got a record 'youth vote' and the youth at that time were Xers!"

You idiot. Reagan was elected in 1980. Gen X couldn't vote until 1983 at the earliest.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash January 22, 2019 12:12 AM  

According to the death clock, Markku linked, there are now more GenX in the US than Boomers.

Blogger P Glenrothes January 22, 2019 1:08 AM  

It makes no sense to hate dead people, leaving all that hate and blame searching for a live target. My experience as a 'boomer" tells me the boomer bell curve is broad and flat, rather than narrow and peaky. Life is rich with complexity. Judge people individually or be judged the fool.

Blogger Theproductofafineeduction January 22, 2019 1:22 AM  

>Takes collective credit for what is consider good but refuses to take collective responsibility for the bad.

This has to be a joke post, it’s too on the nose.

Blogger Theproductofafineeduction January 22, 2019 1:26 AM  

This. Right. Fucking. Here.

Blogger Robert Buchanan January 22, 2019 3:28 AM  

justaguy wrote:It may suck that you complete with 20+ million smart people from the rest of the world that moved here-- that was Teddy Kennedy and anyone who ever voted for a D.

"Who's Emanuel Celler? It probably doesn't matter; I never saw him on teeveeeee."

Someone has to pay taxes....

Yeah, that's why they're all here: to pay taxes. Christ.

P Glenrothes wrote:Judge people individually or be judged the fool.

To individualize those who distinguish themselves individually and stereotype whoever conforms to collective stereotypes is an ordinarily reliable M.O., but your apothegm is so exoterically superficial and safe, only a bigot could object.

Blogger Dirk Manly January 22, 2019 12:25 PM  

@156

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For your BS about it takes more than 4 years for a STEM degree-- if so, you probably aren't smart enough for STEM-- go find a trade or a business degree. Sorry a low midwit shouldn't trey to be an engineer-- some things take top 10% brains. When 25% went to college-- you normally had smart people. When 70% go to college-- you have a bunch of idiots who get taken advantage of by signing too many college loans for promises of unicorn farts."

Bitch, I designed an image processing chip as a demonstration to go into one of the first Keyhole satellites in my 4th year of study.

I was also the 2nd in command of the Supercomputing Group at the General Motors Technical Center.

And my IQ is 145 +/- 2 points.

I know exactly ONE person who graduated with a BS in engineering at Purdue -- and he came in with 30 credits worth of AP testing (which means it still took him 4 years to do only 90 credit hours of work... which is actually a slower rate (0.75 percent of degree requirements completed per year) than those doing the entire degree in 5 years (0.80).

Now, do you have any other ignorant pronouncements to make?

Blogger Arthur Isaac January 22, 2019 12:42 PM  

@Dirk, how does this grab you?

I work with engineers, mostly civil, most of them don't engineer shit. Most of them are glorified accountants that could do just as well or better with a degree in construction management. But they've got their PE's.

Blogger justaguy January 22, 2019 1:26 PM  

#164: I am so sorry-- your appeal to yourself as the authority for all engineers has humbled me??? 18 credit hours, mainly math, science and engineering time 8 semesters-- a typical load for a STEM major. How many physics, chemistry and engineering programs advertise that they are 5 year degrees? How many did so 10 years ago? Too many colleges that cater to the bottom of the college bound pool think that 15 credit hours is too many???

The flow of poorly prepared and not capable people into college will change things--- engineering majors have sustained a pretty stable set of standards for learning because of the GRE and Engineering exams... If you can tell me that most programs now advertise 5 years for what took the Boomers 4 years-- okay-- it fits.

Blogger Arthur Isaac January 22, 2019 2:58 PM  

@166 Engineer students have got to float the Universities bloated Math departments. STEM becomes stE(subscript m) when the pumps get shut off. You can't support all that credentialism with 4 year engineering degrees.

Blogger 1Fury2@ January 22, 2019 9:41 PM  

This sketch reminds me of the myth of the Greek God Cronus who ate his children, all from the fear of a prophecy that the children would rise and kill him.

From debt to abortion to childlessness to immivasion for cheap labor and foreign restaurants, all the Boomers did was love for the pleasure. Consumimg more than they produced, amd loving themselves as the morning star. Maybe some generations are damned

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