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Sunday, January 27, 2019

Remain embraces Leave

If the British Members of Parliament are foolish enough to force a second referendum on leaving the European Union on the British people, they're going to be shocked by how many more people vote for Leave. As a result of their devious, anti-democratic machinations, even die-hard Remainers are publicly endorsing No Deal Brexit.
It's time to end this one way or another. I've written about the dangers of a No Deal Brexit. I believe they are real, not some Project Fear construct. But we cannot continue with this paralysis.

There is nothing MPs will learn about Brexit in nine months, or nine weeks, or nine days that they do not know today. The time for more excuses, extensions and procedural sophistry is at an end.

Many MPs think that, by blocking all other avenues, voters will opt to stay, rather than risk No Deal. But they are dangerously deluded. If forced to choose between No Brexit or No Deal, most people will opt for No Deal. And I know this because I'm one of them.

MPs have had their chance. They've had their opportunity to set aside their petty differences and allegiances and vanities. And they have failed.

I was a committed Remainer. But this morning I'm now a hard-Brexiteer. I finally understand where the anger comes from.
I don't think the treasonous MPs will be successful, in part because it is becoming obvious that the public is going to turn on them with a vengeance, in part because the Queen has made her position on the matter clear in her own subtle way. This is probably all political thud and blunder of no consequence whatsoever. But, until the act is successfully accomplished, it cannot be considered done and dusted.

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37 Comments:

Blogger Rex Little January 27, 2019 7:21 AM  

What do the Remainers claim would be the dangers of no-deal Brexit? How much of that is true, in your opinion?

Blogger L'Aristokrato January 27, 2019 7:35 AM  

Rex Little wrote:What do the Remainers claim would be the dangers of no-deal Brexit? How much of that is true, in your opinion?



It's all explained in this documentary: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3ZOKDmorj0

Blogger Balkan Yankee January 27, 2019 7:43 AM  

Dear Clever Remainer Politician: That wasn't a rake. You didn't step on it. And your face isn't smashed in. Carry on.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan January 27, 2019 7:46 AM  

I read the worst rated comments figuring they were the remoaners and I think they are leaving the best weapons on the table and unused, I went thru 20 or so and only one hinted at Brexit being "sexist, racist and homophobic", WTF.

They should take a leaf from their American lefty brethern where the color of a hat triggers an avalanche probably amounting to billions of dollars worth of airtime of psychobabble/political rhetoric amounting to "sexist, racist and homophobic."

Blogger camcleat January 27, 2019 8:08 AM  

I am thoroughly amused that on my re-reading of The Promethean, I just this morning got to the part where Brexit was mentioned, then came to VP and saw this post.

Blogger Johnny January 27, 2019 8:25 AM  

People don't like big changes because they entail risk, and that is sensible. But the Brits have got to get that remain is not safe either. It is the slow risk over time instead of the fast risk of leaving. And like Trump with the wall, the the other side is not going to come up with a deal. Waiting for that is grasping at straws.

Blogger McChuck January 27, 2019 8:57 AM  

No man's life, liberty, and property are safe as long as Parliament is in session.

Blogger pyrrhus January 27, 2019 9:09 AM  

The UK must get out, because they are hated by the Eurocrats, and because EU policies are pure poison, from immigration to taxing the financial industry...The risk of remain is national suicide.

Blogger pyrrhus January 27, 2019 9:12 AM  

The REAL risk of hard Brexit, to the Remainers, is that Britain will cut better trade deals and prosper, destroying their political careers.

Blogger The Deuce January 27, 2019 9:17 AM  

I'd be shocked if Leave isn't substantially more popular than it was in 2016. The argument for it was that the globalist elite in Britain have sold out the people's sovereign right to have any democratic say in their own futures. And the behavior of that elite since then has only served to make that case undeniable.

Blogger Twisted Root January 27, 2019 9:35 AM  

The principle risk of no-deal Brexit is a civil service geared to implementing directives from above and a political class no more suited to representing a nation the a local town council.

Blogger Servant of the Chief January 27, 2019 10:05 AM  

A part of me kinda hopes they force the issue anyway, and just hope the Queen gives the order and troops march into Parliament, lift the sceptre of royal authority, arrest the speaker of the house and dissolve parliament.

And I hope for that precisely because the British Military's flag officer corps and generals are still the old blue blooded military aristocracy (well mostly) and loyal to tradition and the crown, and most of the actual boots-on-the-ground soldiers who aren't from London are from areas of the country that voted leave in majority (barring the Scots or Irish contingents, but I suspect they'd go Royalist too).

Its basically a public secret almost everyone in the modern political establishment wants to abolish the monarchy anyway, so this act, done in the name of the people for the benefit, with the likely support of the army would paralyse the British deep state if not knock it back by a few centuries.

Anonymous Anonymous January 27, 2019 10:10 AM  

"The REAL risk of hard Brexit, to the Remainers, is that Britain will cut better trade deals and prosper, destroying their political careers."

This.

Plus the same is true, only moreso, for the rest of the EU mandarins. their desperation is born of the sure knowledge that a resurgent post-Brexit Britain is the last nail in the coffin of their Euro-imperial dreams.

Rarely have so few wished so much disaster on so many for whom they claim to have so great a concern. The Eurocrats are praying to every god and demon they can conjure that britain falls into post-Brexit poverty, plague, famine and war.

Blogger MendoScot January 27, 2019 10:22 AM  

Rex Little wrote:What do the Remainers claim would be the dangers of no-deal Brexit? How much of that is true, in your opinion?



What haven't they claimed?

OK, maybe none of them really claimed Mars would invade and we'd all be eaten by bug-eyed green men, but Tony Blair did claim that it would trigger WWIII.

The truth is close to what pyrrhus posted - they fear success and having been on the wrong side of history.

Rather odd for people whose carreers are based on the presumption of the electorate's short memory.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother January 27, 2019 10:25 AM  

Servant of the Chief,

I'd love to see that too, if only for the nationalist power and optics that would generate. God and country vs weaselly politicians. Who would the public support?

Yes I know she's Saxe-Coburg shut the fuck up spergs.

Blogger tz January 27, 2019 10:54 AM  

The Mandate of Heaven, or the will of the People.

You could tell their strategy was BXINO, and rund the clock down, so it would be remain or worse. But BXINO went down in flames because it was too obvious.

Even on the left, like with AOC, she is getting traction because she is Trump like, exposing the establishment as the corrupt crony ignore the people swamp. The Plutocracy v.s. the Democracy, and the Democracy is split between socialist anti-fa and the rump right.

Blogger Franz Lyonheart January 27, 2019 11:16 AM  

the Brits have got to get that remain is not safe either. It is the slow risk over time instead of the fast risk of leaving. And the other side is not going to come up with a deal.

Exactly this.

Let's do No Deal Brexit first, and on 30 March, the UK can then start negotiate a real deal. Only this time, as a sovereign and free country, where the other 27 countries won't have the lever of existing EU framework anymore. And Great Britain then can't be held hostage by the legal fiddling of the two Irelands anymore.

Time doesn't "run out" and history won't stop. That includes trading agreements and economic history. The 27+1 countries can negotiate whenever they like.

Blogger Damelon Brinn January 27, 2019 11:24 AM  

If you know nothing about it, like me, it just sounds weird to think it would be "dangerous" for a nation that was independent and prosperous for centuries to pull out of a relatively recent economic and political whatever-the-EU-is. Dangerous, really?

Around 1990, I had a co-worker who was a member of some oddball church. He would only say it was "Christian," but he wouldn't eat pork and some odd things like that. Anyway, he claimed the EU (then the EEC, I think) was the Beast from Revelations and would grow to dominate the world, putting the mark on people and so on. I thought it was pretty far-fetched at the time, but it seems like that is what they had in mind.

Blogger thechortling January 27, 2019 11:30 AM  

all the thundering about is so they can be the SEE I TOLD YOU SO when there's the least bauble in the British economy going forward. I'm sure the EU will do it's damndest to economically bombard the island for many years to come-- and in each wave of the attack, these Remainer MP jackwagons will be right there to act as though things would be so much better back in the fleshpots of EUgypt.

Blogger Brett baker January 27, 2019 12:08 PM  

US-UK Free Trade deal?

Blogger James Dixon January 27, 2019 12:17 PM  

You have to understand that it was always going to be hard Brexit. The EU was never going to negotiate a fair deal, only one as painful to Britain as they could manage.

And any such deal was going to be rejected by Parliament, as this one was. So the only option for Britain was always a hard Brexit. And everyone with any sense knew this from the beginning.

Blogger John Best. January 27, 2019 12:21 PM  

@20, what benefit to the UK is a free trade deal with the US? We need protect from the US, not more trade with it.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd January 27, 2019 12:46 PM  

John Best wrote:@20, what benefit to the UK is a free trade deal with the US? We need protect from the US, not more trade with it.

And vise-versa. However, there are surely products unique to each, and a fair trade deal could be mutually beneficial. We could trade Aga stoves for BlazeKing stoves, for example, or Scotch for burbon.

Blogger ZhukovG January 27, 2019 1:10 PM  

What is the danger of a 'No Deal' Brexit?

That the British people, like Tolkien's Ents, may awaken and realize that they are strong. That they are still the same people who took a middling medieval kingdom and turned into a global empire like no other before it.

Blogger DonReynolds January 27, 2019 1:18 PM  

Part of the confusion between men and women is they are separated by a common language. They use the same words, but important words have very different meanings, and this same confusion continues when politics is involved.

For example, take the simple word "NO". To a man, no means no never, ever. No means no and it will never mean yes. No is often the final word on the subject. No is finality and the end. The ultimate rejection word is No.

To women, that is not what No means. No means "not now". It does not mean never. It means maybe later. It means some other time perhaps, and I will take a rain check.

And this is what we see in Europe, not just with the UK, but with several countries. Norway has rejected EU membership twice, with heavy voter turnout. Switzerland rejected EU membership twice with 75 percent voting against each time. Greenland voted against and LEFT. The Republic of Ireland had to vote on the Treaty of Nice twice before passing it and they had to vote on the Treaty of Lisbon twice before passing it.

How many times do the voters have to reject a referendum before it is rejected, given that approval only takes one vote in favor?

Blogger Jack Amok January 27, 2019 1:19 PM  

The antics of the Remainers really exposes their unfitness for office or any form of public trust. It's one thing to be in favor of a particular policy, it's another to use your office to try and sabotage the country when your policy loses out.

Blogger S1AL January 27, 2019 1:34 PM  

It appears that even conservatives are figuring out that the income tax is cancer and we should have just stuck with tariffs: https://pjmedia.com/michaelwalsh/tired-of-living-paycheck-to-paycheck-repeal-the-16th-amendment/

Blogger Snidely Whiplash January 27, 2019 2:43 PM  

Based on the linked article, I'd have to conclude that Michael Walsh is a Communist.

Blogger Timmy3 January 27, 2019 3:04 PM  

The Brexit deal is about negotiating with the EU about the exit while still trading with the EU. But a hard Brexit will still require negotiating with the EU on trade since each country won’t negotiate separately with GB. What is the next steps? It’s a divorce with no settlement, yet they still have their kids to worry about. This EU can continue to make life difficult for GB.

Blogger eclecticme January 27, 2019 4:02 PM  

OT, but about nationalism. At 6:00 the video blog says Russia is decoupling from the West financially, created an alternative to SWIFT, Visa, and Mastercard. They did this because of sanctions.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMcF8dSeDRc

Blogger Timmy3 January 27, 2019 5:03 PM  

It will be ironic if Conservatives had to use it because of deplatforming. Some Conservative Billionaire should create an alternative in the Bahamas.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd January 27, 2019 6:00 PM  

@31, is there such a critter as ``conservative billionaire?''

Blogger rumpole5 January 27, 2019 8:21 PM  

The USA, Great Britian, Canada, Australia, and New Zealand could form a maritime trade zone that would knock the EU on its ass!

"Britains never never never shall be slaves"

Blogger Dirk Manly January 27, 2019 9:25 PM  

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Blogger Dirk Manly January 27, 2019 9:57 PM  

@1

"What do the Remainers claim would be the dangers of no-deal Brexit? How much of that is true, in your opinion?"

Only the human sacrifice, because it's already happening now.

@11

"The principle risk of no-deal Brexit is a civil service geared to implementing directives from above and a political class no more suited to representing a nation the a local town council."

So, in other words, a major improvement over the status quo.

@18

"If you know nothing about it, like me, it just sounds weird to think it would be "dangerous" for a nation that was independent and prosperous for centuries to pull out of a relatively recent economic and political whatever-the-EU-is. Dangerous, really?"

Oh, it's dangerous alright. But not the the general public. It's dangerous to bankers, government hacks & bureaucrats, UN advocates, politicians, and other ne'er-do-wells.


@28

> Based on the linked article, I'd have to conclude that Michael Walsh is a Communist.

Wrong. From Walsh's article:

"Because the income tax was never designed simply to soak the rich, but to prevent the working classes from ever moving up."

That's about as anti-Commie as you can get.

Commies WANT the poor to stay poor -- If there are no poor people, then nobody needs commies.

Blogger linesy January 28, 2019 1:52 AM  

The phrase 'Crash Out' is used over and over again, they think its a linguistic kill shot. Macron should be your warning guys. The EU is going to keel over due to lack of power and a vacuum at its heart. We will be glad to be out when we see the tail spin it will go into once we leave, France spirals further and the East works out what it signed up for. March 30th cant come quick enough. In the rush to defend itself, the EU has thrown all other considerations under the bus.

Blogger Iron Spartan January 28, 2019 2:16 PM  

rumpole5 wrote:The USA, Great Britian, Canada, Australia, and New Zealand could form a maritime trade zone that would knock the EU on its ass!

"Britains never never never shall be slaves"


Free men are allowed to bear arms, slaves are not.

If the British get over their fear of anything more dangerous than a stick, I will have much more hope for them.

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