Another curve ball
This is hardly the first time one of our projects has taken an unanticipated curve, but even so, I'm sorry to have to inform everyone that SocialGalactic 1.0 has gone down for the count. By which I mean that we are permanently pulling the plug on this particular form of it. I'll explain more in my Devstream tomorrow, but the long and the short of it is that the Infogalactic team has unanimously decided that our best course of action was to shut it down and return to our original Plan A of developing our own social media technology on our own servers.
While we appreciated the short cut that the possibility of working with Fediway offered us, after further discussions with them, we have mutually concluded that it is best for both organizations to go their separate ways.
Developing the necessary social media technology will, of course, take time, though probably not as much as you might imagine, so we will gladly refund everyone who supported the Burn Unit with the expectation of having Bronze, Silver, or Gold access to SocialGalactic. Please just email me with the relevant email address and I'll take care of it. Speaking for the team, I sincerely apologize to all 2,500 of our users for the inconvenience involved, and we all very much appreciate the strong interest that the Infogalactic community has indicated in its own social media site.
That being said, we will NOT be doing any crowdfunding for SocialGalactic 2.0 for reasons that will be very obvious in 4-6 weeks.
While we appreciated the short cut that the possibility of working with Fediway offered us, after further discussions with them, we have mutually concluded that it is best for both organizations to go their separate ways.
Developing the necessary social media technology will, of course, take time, though probably not as much as you might imagine, so we will gladly refund everyone who supported the Burn Unit with the expectation of having Bronze, Silver, or Gold access to SocialGalactic. Please just email me with the relevant email address and I'll take care of it. Speaking for the team, I sincerely apologize to all 2,500 of our users for the inconvenience involved, and we all very much appreciate the strong interest that the Infogalactic community has indicated in its own social media site.
That being said, we will NOT be doing any crowdfunding for SocialGalactic 2.0 for reasons that will be very obvious in 4-6 weeks.
Labels: SocialGalactic, technology
92 Comments:
Well, I enjoyed my brief foray into social media anyway.
It was very good, very fast. I am happy to take your advice and be stoic and take the long view.
Good luck!
It was fun while it lasted. Looking forward to the next effort.
Did Fediway pull some crap? Hope not. I donated to them, on the strength of their association with SG. Sucks.
Looking forward to the new one though.
I have no intention of withdrawing my Burn Unit support. In this for the long haul, and looking forward to SG 2.0.
This was for the best for Infogalactic, trust me.
Enjoyed trying SocialGalatic. Thank you to all who worked on it.
:-(
Well at least there's an opportunity to develop something better.
SocialGalactic, we hardly knew ye.
Thank you for the Well-mannered and Civil Platform (a la "Clean Speech) !
I wish you (and the rest of the Team) the Best of Luck in your Future Endeavours!
Inshallah, You guys will come out with a much better framework (a la Social Galactic 2.0) in the Near Future! :)
Stickwick Stapers wrote:I have no intention of withdrawing my Burn Unit support. In this for the long haul, and looking forward to SG 2.0.
Ditto.
Markku wrote:This was for the best for Infogalactic, trust me.
Of this, I have no doubt. I loved the few conversations I had on the site so far, but I was fighting the site the whole time to do what I wanted. It would have been a very frustrating experience to use on a daily basis.
I can't overstate how great I found the conversations on SocialGalactic to be so far. The community both here and there are fantastic and I can't wait for version 2.0.
I liked it. Understand that getting it righr takes time. Look forward next version
I just created my account...
@13 "I just created my account..."
So it's your fault!
lol, oh well, good times while it lasted. Looking forward to the next incarnation. Out.
Easy come easy go. Double down on the Burn Unit!
This was a useful experiment, curveballs notwithstanding. Thanks for a great experince.
It's all good. I've been in the Burn Unit from the start and like Stickwick, I'm not going anywhere.
FAIL FASTER
Build your own platforms.
Don't outsource, even to Fedi.
Looking forward (really, it should be far better!) to SG 2.0 or whatever it is.
I'm sticking with the Burn Unit as well.
I've been Burn Unit for a while, have no intent of changing that. I enjoyed the few conversations I had, and look forward to 2.o with great anticipation!
No problem... looking forward to version 2!
"...for reasons that will be very obvious in 4-6 weeks."
The Jooooooos?
People who are theoreticians often don't get how tough it is to actually get things done in the real world. Best of luck with your project.
Sorry to hear it's going down. I was enjoying it so far, and getting ready to buy a bigger account once the opportunity opened up again.
Hope it's at least been a good experience in terms of learning what you need and don't need for features in the proper replacement.
Farewell to SG v1... no sooner than I absolutely must.
Bah.
Looking forward to hearing what happened.
Keep my Burn Unit Gold money. In for the haul... long or otherwise. Dying to know what happened though. #TheCoreV2
I have heard some very smart, very effective people offer the advice to fail fast and fail often. It doesn’t get much faster than this. We’ll see what comes next.
I hope I’m as early on board next time. It was kind of cool to be one of the first 10.
Why does is still appear to be up?
We have put in the request to take it down. We don't have control of the server.
Keep the donation, and put it to good use in Social Galactic 2.0. The ride never ends!
Say it ain't so. I was looking forward to the next step in the university classroom.
As far as building your own platform goes, are you accepting software engineers?
Sorry to hear it went down. Looking forward to SG 2.0 and to hear what happened tomorrow.
Hmmm
I don't know much about FEDiway technology, but I have long been an advocate for an open microblogging protocol that allows multiple independently administered servers.
Ah, well. I'll be back for the next incarnation as well, and I'll kick some money towards the Burn Unit as soon as my financial situation settles down. It was fun, looking forward to the next go around.
Oh well...a minor disappointment but I trust the plan and the planners. Unlike Gab, which I recall having a waiting list for sign-up and definitely wasn’t with it.
*definitely wasn’t worth it.
@birchtree here. I never got into Twitter or Gab as I never liked social media, but Social Galactic was a blast while it lasted and changed my mind. Strange for something I only enjoyed for such a short time, but I will miss it. Looking forward to 2.0!
It was a successful test! It proved that there was demand and that the #cleanspeech policy works. Plus, Jesus like my post and became my friend. I honestly can't ask for more!
Trust and stand with the PLAN. Know now why wasn't able to get on there. Everything Vox and friends can do to be completely autonomous is for the better. Did not Nazim, something or other, talk about being anti-fragile? Do believe I read his book, or something. Smart man.
Looking forward to hearing the whole story, and seeing what comes next.
Let me guess - Fedi wanted a "code of conduct" or such correct?
I feel sad, but also victorious. This was awesome, period. Also, Vox, I want to thank you personally for introducing me(us) to Owen Benjamin's work, what a priceless gift he is, I haven't laughed this hard, and this many times, for a while. I will be there for the next iteration. Godspeed my friends. As others have noted in the past, far from making me want a refund, makes me want to up to gold. because. *&$% them.
Much of the #lastpost tag is about Our Lord.
Grateful to have been there.
Thank you for the beta test. It was fun. If you're taking suggestions for the next one, I would like an easy way to follow multi-paticipant conversations over an indefinite period (possibly the lifetime of the tech). Especially since there were so many people with interesting things to say. Positive experience overall, looking forward to the next version!
I had credit card issues, and fell out of the burn unit. I went there to renew my support, and I can't find any way to donate. Can someone point me to the burn unit, please?
Thank you for the open beta! The community experience was great and I look forward to the next (and I assume more robust) version. I took a screenshot of who I'm following now so I can reconnect next time. Godspeed and God bless.
Thanks to all those working hard on this project. I'll sign up for 2.0 as soon as it's available.
"took a screenshot of who I'm following"
Damn good idea.
Looking forward to the next iteration.
It was fun while it lasted. No refund necessary. Will my socialgalactic subscription turn into an ongoing infogalactic burn unit donation, or are you turning off the monthly credit card charge?
It's like watching Belichick cut Randy Moss or Josh Gordon. Seems sudden, but will make sense soon, I'm sure.
I'd been looking for an opportunity to join the Burn Unit. SocialGalactic is just gravy.
Still in the Burn Unit. For the long haul.
Well, gosh darn it.
Shucks, and I think I was account #1,000, too. Ah well, easy come easy go.
Looking forward to the next version.
"Trust and stand with the PLAN. Know now why wasn't able to get on there. Everything Vox and friends can do to be completely autonomous is for the better. Did not Nazim, something or other, talk about being anti-fragile? Do believe I read his book, or something. Smart man."
Nazim asks you how often you get to the Cloud District. Oh, what am I saying.
I'm sticking with the Burn Unit as well. The social media buff was a nice perk but I'm just happy to be here.
This was a blast. I going to donate to the burn unit when my tax refund hit my bank account sometime this week. Looking forward to the future projects. Is there anywhere I can still donate or join the burn unit or is it closed now?
It Happens, I am glad that Vox is so open and up front. Honesty is always the best policy.
I look forward to the next one.
Oh... I was wondering what was going on.
phaaaaaaaaaaa k
I can only echo what everyone else already said
- was my first toe dip into social I have twitter and gab accounts somewhere..., unused.
- SG very enjoyable. Much good interactions.
- the UI was crazy. Beta, just about usable, but : Reload reload reload.
- EU was disappointing. I was about to digging out my VPN password for non-EU geolocators. Ah well then the shutters came down entirely.
- will join 2.0 as soon as it's up.
- Will get some sort of subscription once it's out of beta.
Fingers crossed for your reinvigorated endeavours!
Really enjoyed SG, never been a social media user before as idiots screaming in the wind for attention didn't seem a good way to spend time. This was different and the emphasis on politeness was a winner. Looking forward to whatever comes next!
Have you been into #TheCore;
Have you seen her gilded hall?
No. No one has. For naught is left
But standing stones of form bereft.
All cities but the last will fall.
Vox, I have to say that your honesty and timely information is a large credit to you and any organization of yours. I think many a CEO could learn a valuable lesson from your frankness about your business affairs.
The "well this did not work out" admission ups your value in my book by a lot. (if that were possible that is)
Good on you.
Not a problem. I'm sure you'll have your own platform soon enough, and if not, Gab is at least usable for now.
Just a bump in the road. No worries. It was worth waiting for, and so will whatever replaces it down the road.
I am actually relieved that you guys made this choice. I felt a bit uneasy with the dependency on this fedi organization.
Good luck with SG 2.0! I trust you are doing the right thing!
I am actually relieved that you guys made this choice. I felt a bit uneasy with the dependency on this fedi organization.
It was a good learning experience. But we have no hesitation or doubts about making this call. Everything will be perfectly clear once I do the Devstream.
Stand strong, Vox.
I was looking forward to upgrading.
Sad to see it gone already. Looking forward to the next one.
Never really a social media user; joined SG in support; will be back of course for SG2. But, I do love being able to support your/our/Vox's Unapproved Right projects -- it's a thing!
FYI, SG loaded (although in an odd way) on my Ipad, but did not load up onto my PC at all. Contrary to others, I did not like the look of it, nor do I think the name is very good (Twitter is a good name, Gab is a good name, SG not a good name..all MHO of course). The concept I liked and will try again.
No worries, Vox. SG was a side show to the IG initiative.
“One ping only” redux
We now know how fast NKVD can pick up hammer
Quickly mobilized. I'm pleased.
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I was thinking of joining but then I saw the Fediway affiliation. I have no idea who they are and what kind of garbage they might suddenly pull, so I decided to wait.
Seriously, all it takes nowadays if you said something untoward anything non-White and they go apoplectic, usually ending every sentence with the phrase, "you Nazi!"
Vox, I also registered as a user, because #cleanspeech is something that has appeal across political and other philosophical battle lines. It takes some effort to maintain it on twitter and facebook, but it can be done, just like any garden needs pruning. As a philosophy, however, having it built into a social media platform as a core principle is exciting and I hope, an idea that will spread. Looking forward to SG2. Thank you for making this effort.
I can see three delineations here.
SJWs
People fighting the SJWs
People who are for the most part squishy on the inside and incapable of caring about anything beyond themselves.
As much as we can expect SJWs to lie, double down, and project, we need to also expect the squishy people who are not in the fight against them to cuck every.damned.time. As described in SJWAL, they have no knowledge of SJWs and their tactics so even a small effort by one rage mob looks like the German Blitzkrieg to them. They don't even realize that the people threatening them are not even customers and never will be.
@62 @38
Ah, in my rushed list I forgot one item of course :
- Jesus liked my post and was my friend
How good is that?
“And because there was need of more pay for the shouters and marchers,
They disbanded in face of their foemen their yeomen and archers.”
*Sigh* Kipling warned us about all of this over 100 years ago. Will we ever learn?
The minute Fedway saw Donald Trump opening his account they pulled the plug.
D’oh! Wrong post!
Was very much enjoying it. Been reading here for years and never commented for fear of being called out (rightly) for not being particularly intelligent. XD
I will be very much looking forward to socialgalactic 2.0 and my next opportunity to interact with the ilk! :)
Congratulations on the quick decision. Shortcuts always take longer in the end.
Was fun while it lasted. One thing I definitely appreciate is the emphasis on quality over quantity.
Personally, I'm betting on the issues being at least partly technical. Fediway has always seemed a little sketchy to me in that area. See their hubs "page" for example...
Well it was a short but fun experience. And I joined a "Vox Day discord" channel through Socialgalactic, so now I have a discord account! Looking forward to Socialgalactic 2.0, for sure.
I'm interested in seeing 2.0 :)
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