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Wednesday, February 13, 2019

Immigration and immorality

This moral and material descent is what happens when a nation turns away from Christianity and embraces foreigners, empire, and foreign philosophies.
Almost everyone that goes out to visit one of our major cities on the west coast has a similar reaction.  Those that must live among the escalating decay are often numb to it, but most of those that are just in town for a visit are absolutely shocked by all of the trash, human defecation, crime and public drug use that they encounter.  Once upon a time, our beautiful western cities were the envy of the rest of the world, but now they serve as shining examples of America’s accelerating decline.  The worst parts of our major western cities literally look like post-apocalyptic wastelands, and the hordes of zombified homeless people that live in those areas are too drugged-out to care.  The ironic thing is that these cities are not poor.  In fact, San Francisco and Seattle are among the wealthiest cities in the entire nation.  So if things are falling apart this dramatically now, how bad will things get when economic conditions really start to deteriorate?

Let’s start our discussion by looking at the rat epidemic in Los Angeles.  Thanks to extremely poor public sanitation, rats are breeding like mad, and at this point they have even conquered Los Angeles City Hall…

Officials at Los Angeles’ City Hall are considering ripping all of the building’s carpets up, as rats and fleas are said to be running riot in its halls.

A motion was filed by Council President Herb Wesson on Wednesday to enact the much needed makeover amid a typhus outbreak in the downtown area.

Wesson said a city employee had contracted the deadly bacterial disease at work, and now he’s urging officials to investigate the ‘scope’ of the long-running pest problem at the council building.

People from all over the world are drawn to Los Angeles because of what they have seen on television, but it is truly a filthy, filthy place.  The number of homeless has been rising about 20 percent a year, public drug use is seemingly everywhere, and there are mountains of trash all over the place.  Needless to say, rats thrive in such an environment, and the epic battle that one L.A. journalist is having with rats was recently featured in the L.A. Times…

Eastside, Westside, north and south, they’re everywhere. If you’re a rat, the California housing crisis has not hit you yet and it never will. But let’s not be too hard on Los Angeles, because the same things that are going on there are happening in major cities all over the western portion of the country. For example, a massive rat infestation recently forced authorities to close a shockingly filthy homeless encampment under a bridge in Salem, Oregon…
It's just a matter of time before the next Black Plague sweeps the cities of the West. And a good thing it will be too. Civilization is little more than the art of being able to live in large cities without dying like short-lived, fast-breeding vermin; rural Roman life expectancies were not that much shorter than modern life expectancies. And the art of civilization has observably been lost, because the people who live in large cities have abandoned every aspect of Western civilization.

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Blogger Martin Marprelate February 13, 2019 2:26 PM  

The collapse of LA could be the single best news I have heard in years.

Blogger Off The Wall February 13, 2019 2:30 PM  

That's insane! Black Plague 2020

Blogger Dave W. February 13, 2019 2:30 PM  

It seems Tool were prophets:

Learn to swim
I'll see you down in
Arizona Bayyyyyyy

Blogger John Cunningham February 13, 2019 2:31 PM  

"Faster, Faster."

Blogger Welsh Woodsman February 13, 2019 2:36 PM  

It's rather surprising that we don't see more of this in the cities here in the east. However, the severely cold winters seem to put quite a dent in the homeless population...especially north of NYC. Despite the rampant liberalism here - there also tends to be less tolerance for panhandling and other forms of anti-social behavior.
Although this past summer I noticed that downtown Portland Maine is beginning to look very shabby...whinos sleeping on benches, trash everywhere. Rather sad - considering it was always a very clean safe place to visit. On the bright side no piles of steaming crap or dirty needles were seen anywhere.

Blogger John Regan February 13, 2019 2:41 PM  

Well, I recently offered this non-sectarian approach to the homelessness problem, though of course it doesn't address the more fundamental issues VD points out here. Theory is, you do what you can to preserve what you can...

HomesteadConstitutionalAmendment

Blogger Colin Flaherty's baby momma February 13, 2019 2:43 PM  

Look at the world God made. None of these people would be alive.
Only deluded "enlightened" humans want to overturn natural law to elevate depraved maladapted degenerates, in order to feel good about themselves while cursing their posterity.

US General Van Horn Moseley, 1939
"We pay great attention to the breeding of our hogs, our dogs, our horses, and our cattle, but we are just beginning to realize the ... effects of absorbing objectionable blood in our breed of human beings. The pages of history give us the tragic stories of one-time leading nations which ... imported manpower of an inferior kind and then ... intermarried with this inferior stock. ... Those nations have either passed out of separate existence entirely, or have remained as decadent entities without influence in world affairs."

Blogger Laramie Hirsch February 13, 2019 2:44 PM  

Technology will stop any such plague. Our health systems are advanced. Though...its not unfeasible that a plague would sweep through homeless camps.

Blogger Laramie Hirsch February 13, 2019 2:46 PM  

Tulsa is a shithole when it comes to homeless folks. It started about ten years ago. I'd like to hear Ramzpaul talk about it.

Blogger NO GOOGLES February 13, 2019 2:46 PM  

There's no social media good boy points for cleaning up trash and getting rid of rats. It's amazing how fast the decline has been in the bastions of insanity of the West.

Blogger John Regan February 13, 2019 2:48 PM  

Forget to follow the thread....

Blogger NO GOOGLES February 13, 2019 2:48 PM  

@8
The problem is that the more people get infected and then get treated with antibiotics the faster we get antibiotic resistant strains. Homeless populations (including many drug addicts) and immigrants are how we got drug-resistant forms of many STDs that are now starting to wreak havoc.

Was Sodom and Gomorrah worse than this or was God just more active back then?

Blogger Colin Flaherty's baby momma February 13, 2019 2:48 PM  

General Moseley
"Watch a herd of animals. If a member of the herd becomes unfit ... the unfortunate is recognized at once and driven out of the herd, only to be eaten by the timber wolves. That seems hard–but is it, in fact? The suffering is thus limited to the one. The disease is not allowed to attack the others. ... With us humans, what we call civilization compels us to carry along the unfit in ever increasing proportions."

In 1934, he asked MacArthur to consider the immigration issue in terms of military manpower, contrasting a group of "southern lads" of "good Anglo-Saxon stock" with their counterparts from the North with names "difficult to pronounce" that "indicated foreign blood". Moseley linked the latter to labor problems and "so much trouble in our schools and colleges." MacArthur expressed skepticism in response to Moseley's argument that "It is a question of whether or not the old blood that built this fine nation...is to continue to administer that nation, or whether that old stock is going to be destroyed or bred out by a lot of foreign blood which the melting pot has not touched."[4]

Blogger Longtime Lurker February 13, 2019 2:52 PM  

"It's just a matter of time before the next Black Plague sweeps the cities of the West."

Call the CDC! That's how the Social Justice virus really works!

Blogger Heian-kyo Dreams February 13, 2019 2:57 PM  

Denver was once a beautiful city. Now it's a literal shit hole. Public defecation, urination, sleeping on the sidewalks, and panhandling are no longer illegal.

I hope the powers that be die of typhoid fever or dysentery.

Blogger widlast washere February 13, 2019 2:59 PM  

Liberals are tolerant of every kind of filth. May they drown in it.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd February 13, 2019 3:01 PM  

So if things are falling apart this dramatically now, how bad will things get when economic conditions really start to deteriorate?

Interesting that they take it as a given that economic conditions will really start to deteriorate. Of course, with immigrants like these, it is inevitable.

Blogger VFM #7634 February 13, 2019 3:01 PM  

"It's just a matter of time before the next Black Plague sweeps the cities of the West."

Ironic that Yersinia pestis is endemic in the Western United States. And due to importation from China a century ago.

Blogger John Atria February 13, 2019 3:02 PM  

I'm in the rural part of Northern California north of San Francisco by a couple of hours. The terrain up here is pretty rugged and isolated, but I don't expect that will stop people from pillaging the countryside when the system collapses. There will be regions with better odds of survival, but no place will be truly safe when you have tens of millions of starving people roaming around. I was in San Francisco last Christmas and it really is as bad as they say. You are taking your health and life in your hands walking downtown. And if you get attacked, the police will more than likely side with the bums than you.

Blogger kudzu bob February 13, 2019 3:04 PM  

A former editor of Taki's Magazine moved to LA a few months ago and promptly got typhus.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd February 13, 2019 3:06 PM  

John Regan wrote:I recently offered this non-sectarian approach to the homelessness problem ...

The problem with the homeless is not that they have no homes. The problem is that they are insane, or bums, or drug addled.

People who have a run of bad luck and wind up on the street get out of trouble fairly quickly, unless they are insane, drug addled bums.

Blogger Noah B The Savage Gardener February 13, 2019 3:14 PM  

The problem with the homeless is not that they have no homes. The problem is that they are insane, or bums, or drug addled.

On top of that, building codes and zoning laws helped create the homelessness problem. In years past these people lived in shacks and shantytowns and were arguably better off than they are now. Except that the bums didn't have iPhones back then.

Blogger Musashi February 13, 2019 3:26 PM  

Import the Third World become the Third World.

Blogger Rickaby007 February 13, 2019 3:27 PM  

>Civilization is little more than the art of being able to live in large cities without dying like short-lived, fast-breeding vermin; rural Roman life expectancies were not that much shorter than modern life expectancies. And the art of civilization has observably been lost, because the people who live in large cities have abandoned every aspect of Western civilization.

Wow, that's deep. Nailed it, too.

Blogger Cetera February 13, 2019 3:29 PM  

Laramie Hirsch wrote:Technology will stop any such plague. Our health systems are advanced. Though...its not unfeasible that a plague would sweep through homeless camps.

This is not true, at any level.

Blogger Longtime Lurker February 13, 2019 3:29 PM  

@16: Denver is that way because city elders decided it better not to enforce laws against such filth, because illegals might get arrested and deported.

The God Emperor works in mysterious ways.

Blogger Robert Coble February 13, 2019 3:33 PM  

If only there were a 'Pied Piper' of Socialism to lead the 'rats' away from evil white civilization into more 'natural' modes of 'green' living...

NEVERMIND: the 'RATS' have plenty of those 'Pied Pipers' vying for the 2020 Presidency.

Blogger 1st Earl Hardwicke February 13, 2019 3:35 PM  

Some homeless might be really low I.Q. The average price of a home in Vancouver Canada is $1 million. If you stay in one area and it's what you know, how easy is it to change.

With the death of local industries in favour of larger corporations with the larger revenue base. There's not that much industry in smaller towns. Plus the in group preference of your western homeless person is probably quite low. How often do you see Somalis as homeless, when they're stacking 6 or more to a room.

There's a lot of near abandoned former mining towns in the midwest, that could be homesteaded. For much lower cost than "social welfare" programs.

The state should stay out of social welfare and the church should do something to help, or go full on satanism.

Blogger dc.sunsets February 13, 2019 3:38 PM  

"Enjoy" freedom to travel while it remains.

It is but a question of time before traveling across arbitrary borders (particularly into cities) will render anyone open to politically-based highway robbery or essentially kidnapping-for-profit by political entities spinning rapidly away from any sane center. The high-trust, respect-for-a-common-law society of the USA is an archaeological curiosity now, replaced by arbitrary and capricious power much like that of the Kirchner clan in Argentina, where Leftist criminal gangs were the political system's right fist.

Famine is coming (due to water reservoirs pumped dry.)
Pestilence is coming (due to the OP issue, immigration of Typhoid Maria and malnutrition.)
War is coming (minorities intent on creating Wakanda by any means necessary, including using their political might to openly rob and extort YT.)

Then will the fourth horseman arrive in quantity, as Nature's culling of the weak, the stupid and the deluded will resume in SPADES. The Left elevated political policies akin to drinking downstream from the latrine for 50 years. That's going to have lasting effects.

Blogger sammibandit February 13, 2019 3:39 PM  

Minus 30 centigrade here and people are lined up every day early for the welfare office to open. Able bodied youngsters with face tattoos and fat women. I truly hate looking at them from my work. Homelessness is increasing YoY and the city just rebuilt the flagship library that acts like daycare for them.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan February 13, 2019 3:39 PM  

Went to South Africa to hunt in 2013 and my one take away was that after seeing that country I concluded America is a third world country with areas of first world interspersed.

Let it collapse

Blogger tz February 13, 2019 3:40 PM  

There's also the STD pandemic and many of those are becoming resistant to the cheap and less toxic antibiotics. Yes, we can treat HIV, and XDR TB the refugees bring in, but it costs tens of thousands per year.

With the homeless, it is merely early that they are not using indoor plumbing. Hepatitis C is spreading there. And Typhus. You have rats because you have trash on the streets.

All this is behavioral, and we refuse to control behavior, so it won't matter even if things are technically or theoretically curable, the "sanctuary city" will collapse because there first isn't a large enough public health infrastructure to deal with something like this (including with the National Guard or such), and the ACLU and the Democratic Socialists won't let anything effective be done.

The Black Death or Ebola (Red Death) are likely to start in Mexico, and those fleeing it will bring it here (the full wall won't be in time, and with the cross and release policy?).

California - basically the I-5 Corridor even up to and into Canada - is like those forests they refused to manage to remove the dead kindling underbrush. I think it was in a few cases illegals with cigarettes.

It was said of the Joker, "some people just want to see the world burn". In this case all the flammable material they are insisting on concentrating... Well it isn't them, it is their Father who art in Hell.

Blogger Fargoth February 13, 2019 3:43 PM  

The first and only time I went to LA I was 12 years old. I remember being disgusted by the literal brown sky.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd February 13, 2019 3:44 PM  

Noah B The Savage Gardener wrote:In years past these people lived in shacks and shantytowns and were arguably better off than they are now.

In years past many of these people were incarcerated in mental institutions and were arguably better off than they are now. See Aesop's post about Mr. Brown.

Blogger Crew February 13, 2019 3:51 PM  

There's also the STD pandemic and many of those are becoming resistant to the cheap and less toxic antibiotics. Yes, we can treat HIV, and XDR TB the refugees bring in, but it costs tens of thousands per year.

Perhaps that is one reason why Democratic Party donors support open borders.

Blogger John Regan February 13, 2019 3:51 PM  

The idea is that it's axiomatic that you'd have less homeless if everyone weren't in constant danger of losing their homes, which is the situation now. Then if renters, who are pretty much at the bottom of our informal caste system, couldn't be evicted until their lease was up that provides some cushion there, too. So the first sentence eliminates the practice of buying homes with a mortgage and the second sentence discourages renting a principal residence. If you own your residence, however humble, it can't be taken away, is the idea.

Blogger wahr01 February 13, 2019 3:53 PM  

A motion was filed by Council President Herb Wesson....urging officials to investigate the ‘scope’ of the long-running pest problem at the council building

"I'm afraid your council building is infested with Democrats, sir.

Blogger dc.sunsets February 13, 2019 3:54 PM  

The Left's (ex: ACLU) answers to "how to help the poor, the clinically insane, etc." bear a striking resemblance to the behavior of a Cat-Rescue-Hoarder who is confronted in her driveway attempting to carry a box full of kittens into her dead-cat/cat-feces-strewn home.

She literally cannot see the horrors into which she carries "those she loves."

Pathological altruism is defined as altruistic acts that predictably harm the actor, the presumed recipient or an innocent 3rd party.

We now see pathological altruism (a mental disorder) as public policy everywhere.

Blogger Yordan Yordanov February 13, 2019 3:54 PM  

Kind of amazing how major cities could go through absolute wonders of technology and achievement and the deteriorate to that point.

Blogger tz February 13, 2019 3:55 PM  

@8 - Let me give an example. We have police and fire departments, and they can keep the crime level lower or at least contain it and put out a fire here or there as long as they have water pressure. When you have a riot or 5 alarm fire it might be harder, like at a chemical plant or refinery. Forest fires are hard to even slow down, usually you try to get ahead and deprive them of fuel. You only have so many people and so much infrastructure to deal with it, that it will be overwhelmed.

There already ARE epidemics, and we already know how to fix them, and it is NOT with medicine. And even with medicine and healthcare there is only a finite supply in California, and logistics are a problem even when there isn't a plague.

How long did it take to close the Bathhouses when HIV was still AIDS and gays were dying slow, terrible deaths but wouldn't change their behavior?

And how well will sanctuary work when they aren't just harboring Typhoid Mary but Bubonic Betty or Ebola Estelle?

We can't even properly handle Type 2 Diabetes, which fighting obesity would both prevent and often cures. But Metformin makes a lot of money for Big Pharma, lots from the Government paying for it.

Blogger tz February 13, 2019 3:57 PM  

@39 - Perfect Analogy. Cat Ladies taken to the Nth degree.

Blogger Musashi February 13, 2019 3:59 PM  

@31
It's amazing what prolific breeders the useless are.

Blogger Lovekraft February 13, 2019 4:01 PM  

Moroccan Market is the image that comes to mind. The faces on the native people in large cities are hardened and ungiving. They eyes locked in a dead stare. These people either end up walling themselves off, getting out at the earliest possibility or become part of the urban decay.

Is this a chicken-egg lssue though? Did foreign agents corrupt the natural cohesion of natives via mass immigration, debt slavery etc, or do cities become untenable by virtue of a certain size? I lean to the former.

Blogger dc.sunsets February 13, 2019 4:02 PM  

@33 @36 Just as the US chamber of commerce wants open borders as a means to flood ever more "consumers" into the high-price retail channel (raking the arbitrage between low-cost 3rd world manufacture and high price retail), flooding the country with people who both harbor and spread to others diseases that are costly to treat is a feature, not a bug, for certain domestic industries.

Your hospital gets a spiff for treating indigents.
Your pharmacy gets a spiff for filling public aid Rx's.
An army of bureaucrats gets paid to administer it all.

Paraphrasing Lenin, when it comes time for us to hang, we'll tie the noose ourselves.

Blogger Fargoth February 13, 2019 4:05 PM  

@12 God was more merciful.....he didn't let it go on as long

Blogger dc.sunsets February 13, 2019 4:05 PM  

How long did it take to close the Bathhouses when HIV was still AIDS and gays were dying slow, terrible deaths but wouldn't change their behavior?

You think they're closed?
Hell, what's Grindr but Glory Holes on crack?

Blogger 1st Earl Hardwicke February 13, 2019 4:08 PM  

I don't think it's pathological altruism at all, but something very opposite. More about managers who work in social housing pocketing exorbitant salaries, maintenance contracts, rents and charges billed to the local & central state(But ultimately to the next generation or Chinese.) And all the so charitable social help, that keeps their pockets lined.

Blogger wahr01 February 13, 2019 4:10 PM  

@44

The problem (and one of the reasons nearly the entire American West is ultra-left) is that environmental laws and national park annexation has resulted in even "small towns in the middle of nowhere" having house prices like Sacramento and small towns being built vertically as if they're in a restricted area like Japan (because they are.. thanks to leftists from this time LAST century).

Even the average GOP voter in states that remain red like Utah doesn't make this connection as their small towns are forced to build as if they're San Francisco despite wide open spaces as far as the eye can see.

To see how long and how ridiculous this can go, just look at England, Australia, and Canada, where these restrictions have been ratcheting for at least 60 years longer and housing is now as high as $1500 a square foot.

Blogger James Dixon February 13, 2019 4:16 PM  

> Technology will stop any such plague. Our health systems are advanced.

I wouldn't count on that. How long has Ebola been active?

> There will be regions with better odds of survival, but no place will be truly safe when you have tens of millions of starving people roaming around.

Remember that if you walk 5 miles/hour, which is more than any starving person can do, you can really only travel about 50 miles/day.

> If you own your residence, however humble, it can't be taken away, is the idea.

New London, CT would like a word with you.

> Did foreign agents corrupt the natural cohesion of natives via mass immigration, debt slavery etc, or do cities become untenable by virtue of a certain size?

Both.

Blogger sammibandit February 13, 2019 4:26 PM  

Those social agencies that provide tax payer funded services for losers, and they are losers, run out of business if the flow of illegals stops. Neoliberalism to a tee. The homeless agencies are similar but I'm disinclined to call the homeless losers. They are my countrymen.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd February 13, 2019 4:27 PM  

... Then if renters, who are pretty much at the bottom of our informal caste system, couldn't be evicted until their lease was up that provides some cushion there, too. So the first sentence eliminates the practice of buying homes with a mortgage and the second sentence discourages renting a principal residence.

The second sentence eliminates renting, except week by week.

Anybody can have a run of bad luck, but only the insane or drug addicted never recover.

Blogger Dr Caveman February 13, 2019 4:29 PM  

I'm staying up north in the Midwest. Despite its problems, Chicago is a clean city
Harsh winters keep the homeless population and pests under control
Plenty of fresh water in the great lakes
Clean air
Good farmland all around

Blogger Ominous Cowherd February 13, 2019 4:35 PM  

... I'm disinclined to call the homeless losers. They are my countrymen.

Where I live, most are not of my nation. The sane and sober ones bounce from the Salvation Army to the Rescue Mission a few times, then they find a job and start saving. Most aren't sane or sober, so they beg a few dollars and buy another rock.

Most sane and sober people have friends who can help them, so they get good references, can network, maybe couch surf a while. They don't often wind up on the street in the first place.

Blogger sammibandit February 13, 2019 4:40 PM  

I used to volunteer with Food not Bombs, which is an anti-war soup kitchen staffed by anarchist volunteers. It's been about 10 years since I last did that gig, but the homeless then were mostly male, mostly indigenous or white. The composition may have changed but the face of homelessness is still native or white and male here.

There used to be quite a few oogles (fake homeless teens who don't want to go home) and genuine train crusty kids (most abused horrifically), but the punk scene is kind of dying here. They're similarly native or white, mostly male. Train crusties are OK once you realize they hustle 24/7 but I could never convince the middle class crusties that the train kids were more punk rock.

Anonymous Anonymous February 13, 2019 4:49 PM  

What are city administrations for?

Clean up the garbage, keep the criminals in check, the lights on and the (clean) water flowing.

LA is self-evidently a fully converged city, home to every fool SJW mania of modern times; equality, sexual perversions and confusions, overrun with two-legged and four-legged vermin of alien origins, etc.

According to the words of Vox, the primary symptom of convergence is the inability to perform the most fundamental purposes of the organization

Hmmm ... ...

Blogger Solon February 13, 2019 4:49 PM  

The issue with those ideas is bank control, as it is with pretty much every financial woe of America for the past century. I don't like mortgages anymore than anyone else, but no one can save up 150k to outright buy a home, and no one would be stupid enough to sell their home for 150k without proper collateral for the payment process, which is what mortgages are. If I owned a home and wanted to sell it to someone that didn't have the cash up front, you damn well better believe I'm going to want assurances that I get my money, and if you don't have the cash up front, you're going to have a hard time convincing me that you own enough property/assets as liabilities to cover what you owe me.

Expecting me to sell my property to you, and then if you can't make the payments, well, you own the home now, so there's nothing I can do and I get left out in the lurch? Yeah, not doing it. I'd rather my home be empty, or, I'd live in it until payment was made in full, and then you'd be an idiot to make payments on something that you can't even use until you're done paying for it. I pay $220 a month for my car loan, I wouldn't pay a single red penny for it if I couldn't use it in the meantime. You see the issue, I'm sure.

Similar issue with renting: I wouldn't rent my home out to someone who has legal protection from eviction for failure to pay, you'd see a massive wave of people signing rental leases, not paying for the term of the lease, and then disappearing after the term is up so the renter gets shafted. What's the renter going to do, send law enforcement to hunt them down, and then what, they declare bankruptcy, and they pay tons of legal fees just to never see the money owed them?

At best, you'd see rental leases across the board reduced to month-by-month terms, with money paid up front for just that month, and failure to pay means you only bought yourself one month off the streets, and then no lease renewal and youre right back where you started: on the streets, only now you've pissed off the renter, who's going to blacklist you with every other renter in town, and the homeless guy is in an even worse position, because NO ONE in town will rent to him for even a single month's term.

I appreciate your ideas in theory, but in practice, it's one giant legal pain in the butt, with no legal assurances to protect the property owners meaning no consumer trust, and your socialist plan to "reduce the homeless population" just led to more annoyances for everyone else, and made the problem you set out to fix even worse in the process.

Funny, how socialist policies tend to do that: muck everything up and push the problem off down the line to the productive tax payer, who suffers under an ever-increasing burden until EVERYONE is now financially ruined.

Socialism really is a horrible disease.

Blogger Vessimede Barstool February 13, 2019 5:00 PM  

America is a nation of contrasts that's for damned sure. Every time I visit a US city I'm dumbfounded at how awful the infrastructure is. Badly maintained roads, railways covered in graffiti and with a permanent smell of urine, airports that looked like shit in the 1970s and haven't had so much as a lick of paint since.

I was on a family break in Hawaii recently. The hotel we stayed at was full of Filipino workers LARPing as natives. The roads were a total mess (of course). Honolulu had the most hobos and meth heads I've seen anywhere in my life. Hordes of emaciated homeless people literally fishing through trash for food while Lamborghinis and Ferraris cruised along Waikiki beach. The countryside didn't look much better. Most of the people who lived in the sticks seemed to be white (in contrast to the city). Not much in the way of outright destitution, but poor, as in 20 year old pick ups parked outside rundown shacks, like a tropical West Virginia.

The biggest kicker was the cost of everything. Food was often three times what I'd pay back home. I was told that land was now so expensive that any kind of agriculture was non feasible and most food was imported. Yes I ate Australian pineapples in Hawaii! Not a place I'd want to be stuck in come the Zombie Apocalypse.

Blogger VFM #7634 February 13, 2019 5:02 PM  

Wouldn't be surprised if progs are getting so shitlib that they're literally incapable of maintaining public health in the cities they rule, because it would conflict with their feelz in some way. This of course goes together with my theory of rapid prog dysgenics, that it's hitting white liberals far harder than sane whites.

Blogger tublecane February 13, 2019 5:04 PM  

So very many aspects to immigration. As many as there are objections to the way the Turd World is run, natch.

Economics and politics dominate our blather, with social and cultural (taco) conncerns fluttering about. The moral, aesthetic, hygienic, and I guess you'd call it genetic aspects are just as important. People have no conception of how vitally our civilization depends on modern Anglo-Saxon manners, for instance. We could so easily slip into gangsterism. Which of course we have at high (banks) and low (street gang) levels, but I'd like to keep it from dominating every interaction.

Blogger Jeff Weimer February 13, 2019 5:14 PM  

FWIW, Seattle has *long* suffered a large homeless population and problem. The term "Skid Row" came from there due to vagrants congregating near Yesler Way in what is now Pioneer Square - the old "Skid Road" loggers sent trees down to the Yesler sawmill in her early days.

It almost seems counter-intuitive to have large amounts of homeless in wealthy cities like Seattle and SF; but like anyone else, bums go where the money is. There's lots of money, and few questions asked, in both those cities.

Blogger lurking February 13, 2019 5:25 PM  

One way the repukes,(scratch that they are losers) the GE could get more of the women vote in 2020 is to show pictures with lots of rats and connect it with the democrat policies in West coast cities.

Blogger tz February 13, 2019 5:31 PM  

On cue, mumps at ice detention facility

Blogger John Regan February 13, 2019 5:36 PM  

@cowherd: I understand your point as a practical matter regarding the insane or addled. Even so. This is not so much to address all that directly. It's more about enhancing property rights as a way to reduce poverty and homelessness, not to mention weakening the oligarchy.

Blogger Noah B The Savage Gardener February 13, 2019 5:41 PM  

@Ominous Cowherd

Aesop makes some good points, various forms of waste disposal should be a part of everyone's preps. It's a critical but often underemphasized necessity.

Blogger Doktor Jeep February 13, 2019 6:18 PM  

The urban leftists I used to bother arguing with really hated it when I reminded them that if the Russians nuked every American city the rest of America would be happy.

Blogger Ledford Ledford February 13, 2019 6:21 PM  

@29
...arbitrary and capricious power much like that of the Kirchner clan in Argentina, where Leftist criminal gangs were the political system's right fist.

I've actually found Buenos Aires move livable than many American cities. There are certain demographics present in the USA and mostly absent in Bs As.

Blogger Longtime Lurker February 13, 2019 6:29 PM  

@58: " . . . progs are getting so shitlib that they're literally incapable of maintaining public health in the cities they rule, because it would conflict with their feelz in some way."

Core truth. Shitlibs would rather die, and us along with them, than admit their feelz are the root of evil.

Shock treatment is indicated.

Blogger kurt9 February 13, 2019 6:43 PM  

SoCal needs more cats. We can send them cats from our animal shelters in the rest of the country.

Blogger Rhys February 13, 2019 6:47 PM  

There are two Western cities that seem to be exception to this, Las Vegas and Phoenix, where everyone is fleeing to. Here in Phoenix, the city is expanding rapidly and getting more and more modern and hi-tech..but it's also getting crowded here like I've never seen before. Now that we're becoming a blue state, it won't be long before we are facing the exact same problems.

Blogger Hammerli280 February 13, 2019 6:51 PM  

@61: "One way ... the GE could get more of the women vote in 2020 is to show pictures with lots of rats and connect it with the democrat policies in West coast cities."

I think you're onto something. Rats, diseases....then point out that the Dems want to import diseases to kill our children. No more Nice Little Loser-Boy. Rub their noses in it.

Then ask the question, "What should we think of the Democrats who want to import deadly diseases to kill our kids?"

Blogger Avalanche February 13, 2019 6:58 PM  

@10 "There's no social media good boy points for cleaning up trash and getting rid of rats."

Hey! Wonder if we can interest AOC in picking THIS up as part of her "Big Green Dream?

Blogger Hammerli280 February 13, 2019 6:59 PM  

Now, the fact that Los Angeles can't even perform basic government functions might present an opportunity. Declare the local and county governments to be in abeyance (since they do nothing), declare a Federal takeover. Same for San Francisco. Send in the military, clean the place out. Apply deadly force as required...although I suspect after the first couple of riots get bombed, it won't be necessary.

Blogger Avalanche February 13, 2019 7:02 PM  

@14 "Call the CDC! That's how the Social Justice virus really works!"

Nah, they're too busy dealing with ebola and hemorrhagic fever and other lovely african diseases.... And then maybe/sometimes letting folks WITH it come back here! Oh, and then the immigrants FROM those areas.... not such a good idea - but the CDC Is MASSIVELY SJW. (I know a hard Right doc who retired from CDC here in ATL; they REALLY didn't want him -- but he was gay -- and effective! -- so they had to keep him till he retired... Oh! The tales he tells!)

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother February 13, 2019 7:03 PM  

John Regan,

Are you a libertarian/ancap/minarchist etc. type?

Blogger English Tom February 13, 2019 7:04 PM  

@Laramie Hirsch

When the time is right, nothing will stop the next pandemic.

Blogger Avalanche February 13, 2019 7:10 PM  

@28 "There's a lot of near abandoned former mining towns in the midwest, that could be homesteaded."

By drug-addled low-IQ brain-damaged folks of whatever race -- and by even-lower IQ africans who think kitchen cabinets are CHICKEN COOPS?!?! Who can't operate a door knob? There's a toss-up whether they, and their MENA 'importation kin' are shitting NEXT to the toilet cause they can't figure one out -- or because they KNOW the White staff will have to clean up after them. I give even odds.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd February 13, 2019 7:11 PM  

I don't like mortgages anymore than anyone else, but no one can save up 150k to outright buy a home, and no one would be stupid enough to sell their home for 150k without proper collateral for the payment process, which is what mortgages are.

If we did outlaw mortgages, we would soon see the price of houses fall to what you could save up; probably one to two years income for most houses. Save 10% a year for ten years and you're in. That's how our grandfathers did it.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd February 13, 2019 7:16 PM  

The vital point to remember is that homeless isn't the problem, it's the symptom. They're homeless because they're crazy, drug addicted, or too stupid to care for themselves, or all three.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd February 13, 2019 7:19 PM  


Aesop makes some good points...


As long as he sticks to his area of expertise, he does okay. Waste disposal is one reason I have a backhoe.

Blogger Avalanche February 13, 2019 7:22 PM  

@29 "...Famine is coming
Pestilence is coming
War is coming (minorities)..."

You left out the world-wide collapse of agriculture caused by the full arrival of the next Ice Age (which began in 2014). Our survival race is: which fails first, money or food?

Not just 'we're out of irrigation water" -- but for ever degree C cooler in the agriculture belt of Canada, their growing zone moves some 60 km south. (And they're already mostly up against our N. border.) And that cold pushes our growing zones south too -- and our "great fertile crop soil" is only northerly, NOT country-spanning north to south. Our "grain belt" is grown on the moraines left by the LAST Ice Age glaciers. The soil well south to that is NOT madly fertile (think: Arizona, not Kansas). Waving fields of golden grain? Nope, all gonna be dry / dead stalks.

Pestilence is here, the media keeps it as hidden as they can.

The war has been going on for some years; WE just haven't yet been stirred to shoot (knife, rape, torture) back. (Oh, and the new internal enemy -- bomb and behead...)

(NOT a black pill -- we all need to know it's NOT 'eternal summer' coming (AL Gore should DIE!). It's the deepest coldest depths of a hundred-year ICE! Prepping is advised. Giving up isn't. (Hell, our predecessors here in the Ice Age lived just a couple MILES from the ice sheets. It's DOABLE -- just not optimal.)

Leading voice John Casey used to complain that the govt/media/"scientists" were telling us to pack and get ready 'cause, weather-wise: "we're flying to Hawai'i." And won't WE be surprised when we get off the "plane" in ALASKA! (What's in YOUR suitcase?!)

Blogger Avalanche February 13, 2019 7:37 PM  

@62 "On cue, mumps at ice detention facility"

Well, there's a good side to that -- mumps often causes STERILITY in adults!! Maybe we can create some Mumps Maggies and send them 'round to the camps?

Blogger Kat February 13, 2019 7:41 PM  

Ominous Cowherd wrote:The vital point to remember is that homeless isn't the problem, it's the symptom. They're homeless because they're crazy, drug addicted, or too stupid to care for themselves, or all three.

My husband has made the case that people should be able to live in group home situations where they can engage in labor suitable to their IQs, but there are people who, for a portion of their paycheck, essentially manage them. It would be similar to indentured servitude where your employer gets labor, and low IQ/motivation people get someone to make sure the electric bill is paid, and they get to the dentist once a year.

Blogger Crew February 13, 2019 7:49 PM  

It probably wouldn't be difficult to introduce some rodents infected with Yersinia pestis into the LA sewerage system.

Blogger birdman February 13, 2019 7:54 PM  

That's too optimistic then again mother nature will always win

Blogger Lovekraft February 13, 2019 7:57 PM  

If we consider the Islamic offensive begun in 2001 (but could have its roots even further back), our cities are reflecting part of this campaign - mass immigration from islamic and africa nations, psychological repercussions of this division.

Add to this built-in incompetence via Politcial Correctness/Cultural Marxism.

Really makes one think how much better off we'd be with the Middle East out of the equation. These, and China, are appearing more and more as hostile agents, whereas multicultural societies are supposed to be run on a general attitude of 'we'll leave you alone as long as you leave us alone.'

Blogger Calvin809 February 13, 2019 8:05 PM  

The Bible says God will destroy the world again but with fire instead of water. Maybe that's just God's way of burning the garbage in San Fran. When Jesus talked about hell he was referring to the garbage dump outside Jerusalem where they burned the trash.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd February 13, 2019 8:06 PM  

Kat, I've seen that work for people with 70-80IQ. If your only problem is stupid, there's hope.

Blogger Northpal February 13, 2019 8:07 PM  

“I need more people coming in because we need people to run the factories and plants and companies that are moving back in.” - Donald Trump

Blogger Avalanche February 13, 2019 8:10 PM  

#82 " group home situations where they can engage in labor suitable to their IQs,"

There is apparently a tech-related 'temp worker' outfit that uses high-IQ autistics: the other staff is not allowed to interact with them; they have 'handlers' who manage them, and the autistics are able to earn decent enough money and will work for hours and days on their carefully assigned and monitored programming, bug-hunting, or whatever.... Clever idea!

Blogger Avalanche February 13, 2019 8:14 PM  

All too likely related to immigration and pandemic... with or without the rats and fleas!
Following a trail or web pages, I ended up here:

https://raconteurreport.blogspot.com/2019/02/feb-2019-ebola-update-cheery-thoughts.html

(THIS is probably a true black pill -- but it's real. Also, scary.)

Commenter there:
Last time you posted on this, I did some internet research about this. I found out that ebola can infect and propagate quite effectively through pigs. I'm wondering what other farm (cows) and companion animals (dogs and cats) it can infect as well.

Scouring the internet for Chinese discussion could be informative, given how the Chinese have invested in and involved themselves all over Africa during the past 10 years. This is presumably how it gets into China if it does not burn itself out.

Blogger Avalanche February 13, 2019 8:17 PM  

And some fun meme weapons:
https://raconteurreport.blogspot.com/2019/02/hard-at-work.html

Blogger Sean Carnegie February 13, 2019 8:18 PM  

@57
The biggest kicker was the cost of everything. Food was often three times what I'd pay back home. I was told that land was now so expensive that any kind of agriculture was non feasible and most food was imported.

You forgot a key detail: Hawaii doesn't have any land. You can't *make* land and that's why everything is expensive. It's like Bermuda: dinner for 3 at a KFC can be $100 because everything, and I mean everything, is shipped in. The "chicken", the fries, the paper bags, the straws. I've had $30 cheeseburgers in Bermuda.

Blogger rumpole5 February 13, 2019 8:22 PM  

So much doom and gloom! You are focusing on small pockets of misery brought on by fools who elect democrats. In the rest of the country things are about as good as they have ever been in terms of the standards of life and health. Even a God forsaken place like NYC is improved. I visited New York many times in the 1970s. The place was a dangerous looking wreck. Times square was a porno shop sewer. I also recall seeing off a relative from the Newark, New Jersey airport in the early 70s. The gates were sort of like 1940s shed-like structures. This last year I flew into Newark airport. It is totally transformed. It has a monorail connecting it to the Amtrack and commuter stations and a bus right into New York. The airport building was new, clean, and basically a shopping mall. I've taken two trips into Manhattan this year. It is overcrowded, but everything I saw was in significantly better shape than what I saw in the 70's. I recall taking the elevated train through the New York Bronx borough in 78 or 79. The place looked like post war II bombed out Berlin. One empty wrecked building after another. You Cassandras should take a look at the actual statistics before pronouncing doom. There is still a lot of life, kick, and drive in the WASP component of this country. The fight of the normals against the whacked out left wing zombies is not over by any means.

Blogger wahr01 February 13, 2019 8:23 PM  

@57

"The biggest kicker was the cost of everything. Food was often three times what I'd pay back home. I was told that land was now so expensive that any kind of agriculture was non feasible and most food was imported. "

Welcome to the wages of "globalism".
Any place that has nice weather or views gets SWARMED by the global elite, who buy up everything and make it unliveable for locals.

Think of it like that "gentrification" episode of South Park, but on a region-wide scale.
Hawaii, Colorado, and California are SoDoSoPa on steroids.

Blogger CoolHand February 13, 2019 8:27 PM  

There is a certain poetry to people contracting typhus from entering the LA City Hall.

I say let 'em shit themselves to oblivion. Not gonna miss 'em a bit.

We should just sit back and watch the comedy unfold, from a good safe distance.

Blogger John Regan February 13, 2019 8:28 PM  

@cowherd Exactly. Housing is overpriced because so much "money" is made available for it, through mortgages

Blogger Ken Prescott February 13, 2019 8:31 PM  

It's been my understanding that the loudest advocates for eugenics were, if you looked at them dispassionately, the best candidates for sterilization and euthanasia on the grounds of congenital mental illness.

Blogger John Regan February 13, 2019 8:36 PM  

@Sgt. 58 Probably something like that. One thing I couldn't help but notice was that the government makes mortgages and evictions possible. Especially the latter, where they remove people from their homes by force. Which I think short of sending someone to prison is about the worst thing the government can do to someone. And unlike sending someone to prison, evicting them takes only a matter of days.

Blogger CoolHand February 13, 2019 8:38 PM  

@28 We'd rather have the empty buildings than the bums, thank you very much.

You can keep your SanFran street shitting bums all to yourselves.

Blogger 1st Earl Hardwicke February 13, 2019 8:54 PM  

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Blogger 1st Earl Hardwicke February 13, 2019 9:02 PM  

Avalanche wrote:@28 "There's a lot of near abandoned former mining towns in the midwest, that could be homesteaded."

By drug-addled low-IQ brain-damaged folks of whatever race -- and by even-lower IQ africans who think kitchen cabinets are CHICKEN COOPS?!?! Who can't operate a door knob? There's a toss-up whether they, and their MENA 'importation kin' are shitting NEXT to the toilet cause they can't figure one out -- or because they KNOW the White staff will have to clean up after them. I give even odds.


Unless they're going to be deported en masse, whatever nationality. >What's the alternative???< Continue to pay for staff in the cities, or let nature take it's course in the country, a large chunk of which is abandoned.

Sure end the welfare state, but women won't vote for it enough. In which case, either the church has to do something, or the death penalty for theft has to become widely accepted. Or something more humane like Sharia, just hack off a limb.

Blogger John Regan February 13, 2019 9:03 PM  

OT, but one of VD's favorite themes:

https://www.airforcetimes.com/news/your-air-force/2019/02/12/first-female-viper-demo-team-pilot-relieved-after-two-weeks/

Blogger CoolHand February 13, 2019 10:01 PM  

@101 YES, let them stay and shit up the cities that serve as the hubs for the degenerate policies that produce these people in the first place.

Sure, it's a lot easier to just offload your refuse (people in this case) onto someone else, but WE (the someone elses in this situation) will NOT stand for having you fools ship them out here to the hinterlands, into our midst where WE will have to deal with their street shitting and generally anti-social behavior.

You all created this problem, YOU all get to wallow in it.

If that means you spend more money on dealing with the fallout than you would like, I give not a single fuck.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan February 13, 2019 10:49 PM  

The Last Calvinist who lives in Hong Kong is relating how the Chinese are laughing at us while LC himself enjoys decent transportation infrastructure over at Sailer's thread on the low speed rail debacle in Cali.

We are just lamenting our decline, but I suppose sometime in the future someone of the dissident right will start a movement dedicated to dealing with the decline on a personal and community level as the rest of FUSA slides towards oblivion. One topic I can suggest is how to live in a rich white liberal area and enjoy the benefits on the cheap.

Blogger Francis Parker Yockey February 13, 2019 11:07 PM  

Almost everyone that goes out to visit one of our major cities on the west coast has a similar reaction. Those that must live among the escalating decay are often numb to it, but most of those that are just in town for a visit are absolutely shocked by all of the trash, human defecation, crime and public drug use that they encounter.

Kinda reminiscent of (((Haidt's))) idea that one of the moral foundations that is entirely lacking in leftists is "sanctity/ degradation."

2014 functional MRI study -- no difference between conservatives and liberals in reaction to images that were neutral, pleasant, or threatening -- but there was a marked difference in response to disgusting images (mutilated animals), with leftists showing significantly diminished response. Response to a single image predicted political views with >95% accuracy.

https://www.cell.com/current-biology/fulltext/S0960-9822(14)01213-5

Blogger Ingot9455 February 13, 2019 11:14 PM  

Did a quick scan of the Sailer thread on high speed rail, and I see that the Tehachapi mountains are not mentioned.
You can't have a high speed rail from SF to LA because of the Tehachapi mountains. Either your high speed rail slows down to 50 mph to get up the mountains and through the Grapevine where the highway pass is (it's a fun, beautiful drive) or you have to stay at 200 mph and go around the mountains on the flatlands.
Either way your trip ends up at 6-7 hours, exactly the same as driving, and you haven't gained anything from high-speeding your rail.
It's physically impossible, it's always been physically impossible, they've always known, and it's always been an endless project that they use to keep out of work politicians on the payroll in no-show jobs.
Maybe Jerry Brown believed in it enough to try actually building something.

Blogger Theproductofafineeduction February 14, 2019 12:13 AM  

In the case of Seattle I don’t think it’s the zoning. It has had sanctioned and unsanctioned shanty towns for a number of years now. In Seattle’s case it’s a drug epidemic with a retarded city full of Socialists of the Orcazio variety

Blogger Leoric February 14, 2019 12:46 AM  

In NYC bad neighborhoods have dog shit on the street. You have to watch where you step when you walk. Until you run into it you can't appreciate it. At first it's hard to force your self to watch every step.

I been in an out of NYC over the last 20 years. It has gotten worse every year. You can usually can tell the difference once every five.

Blogger IreneAthena February 14, 2019 1:02 AM  

I see my own quiet Western town transformed over the last 20 years degenerate to the point where the elevator of the downtown public library is frequently the scene of all sorts of lewdness. An increasingly large number of people don't have shame anymore. This, in the middle of a Red State.

It's not the first time things have gotten out of hand.

There will be a Revival, or the whole thing will collapse.
...But yeah, there might be a Revival.

Blogger Matthewwalkeremail February 14, 2019 1:09 AM  

Here is the real cause:
1. California attracts homeless because of the weather / abundance of services available to the homeless.
2. California had to comply with a federal court ruling which required them to significantly reduce the state prison population. A series of propositions approved by the voters and pushed by Governor Jerry Brown (to get CA in compliance with the court order) reduced many non-violent crimes that were previously felonies to misdemeanors. Prison reduction reform also moved state prisoners to County Jails, pushing them over their capacity (county jails are not designed to hold all of the prisoners from the state jails). These measures basically emptied the prisons out and put people in those prisonson the street. Not only did these propositions put many drug users and non violent criminals on the street, but it also flooded the jails, meaning that because of the lack of space, many people convicted of crimes were only being required to serve a tenth of their sentences. Many of these people with criminal records and drug addictions were not able or willing to find work. This led to a huge increase in homeless/public drug abuse/more petty thefts/trash on the streets/ etc.
3. People hurt from the hard economic times moves to CA and cities like Los Angeles in motorhomes and began parking in business and industrial areas throughout the city. The city tried to ban vehicle dwelling in the city but a court ruling struck down the city ordinance and said that the city could not ban living in a motor home on public streets. People now would dump their grey water in gutters and have their personal possessions all over the sidewalks, many times in front of businesses. This has caused many businesses to relocate outside of the city due to break-ins, drug use, scared customers and employees, and the city can’t do much about it due to the court ruling allowing the vehicles to park there and be lived in.
3. Another court ruling made the city have to allow people to live on the sidewalks , as long as they allowed for a certain amount of space and did not have tents up during the day. Police can only cite or arrest people for drug use but because of the reduced crime classifications to misdemeanors and full jails, the addicts or thieves are out before cops finish the paperwork on the arrests.
4. LA City Hall is across the street from the old LAPD headquarters that was decommissioned for several years. The building was just leveled for new construction goons recently, and the rats have moved across the street from the old decommissioned building to City Hall. That is why there is a rat problem there.

This crisis of homelessness/ drug use is a combination of a perfect storm of bad court judgements and bad legislation emptying the jails, not allowing the prohibition of living on the street.

Morality and bad life choices on a societal level / bad public policy lead to this in a macro sense, but I felt that the more immediate impacts of judicial rulings and voter approved propositions have really been the direct reason as to why we are seeing the amount of homelessness in CA and Los Angeles.

Blogger IreneAthena February 14, 2019 1:52 AM  

Yes, substance abuse is the root of all sorts of societal evils (the Hogart picture!)

What happens when drug addiction is treated as...something that needs TREATMENT rather than punishment? The "put- them-in-jail-then-turn-the-overflow-from-the-jails-onto-the streets" approach to the addiction problem is clearly not working.

Other approaches to have been successful. In some models, addiction is seen as a purely medical problem, as it was in Portugal around 2001 after resources to convict and incarcerate were devoted to treatment. Other approaches view addiction instead as a spiritual problem that has overwhelmed its victim. John Wesley's Christianity addressed social problems one soul at a time with the transformative power of the Gospel--and got results.

Blogger Tatooine Sharpshooters' Club February 14, 2019 2:31 AM  

It's just a matter of time before the next Black Plague sweeps the cities of the West.

@ 106 - And you can't high speed rail from SF to Sacramento because there's no feasible way to cross the Bay.
Can we be sure it hasn't already started? Typhus is a stinkin' concentration camp disease.

Blogger Nikephoros II Phokas February 14, 2019 3:18 AM  

"The Last Calvinist who lives in Hong Kong is relating how the Chinese are laughing at us while LC himself enjoys decent transportation infrastructure over at Sailer's thread on the low speed rail debacle in Cali."

All three major plague epidemics originated in China. Yes, the Chinese have been spreading disease for over 1,500 years.

Two people in Hong Kong caught hepatitis E from rats in last 2018.

They are the only two cases ever recorded of humans catching the rat strain of the disease.

The city has a massive rat problem.

Do we need to bring up SARS, another animal-borne virus from China? Nearly half of all deaths were in Hong Kong.

It's China's "world city" and it still has third-world sanitation, especially compared to Seoul, Tokyo, Singapore, etc.

But enjoy riding the subway with the Chinese, who are notorious rude and prone to line jumping.

Blogger JovianStorm February 14, 2019 3:37 AM  

I suppose we need to build walls around Democrat enclaves, as well, or their penchant for spreading filth and pestilence will ruin flyover country, too.

Blogger icyhotspartin February 14, 2019 4:40 AM  

I had my windshield shot out while driving under the 405/10 interchange last year, right down the street from there was a camper van that had caught fire in front of a grocery store - a quarter mile down from there is where three scammers hand out in traffic and pretend their niece is having a funeral and need money to fund it - another quarter mile down the same road there’s a massive tent city on the sidewalk where there’s regular drug deals and at least one fatal shooting in the past couple months.

Blogger icyhotspartin February 14, 2019 4:41 AM  

*hang out in traffic

Blogger Mr.MantraMan February 14, 2019 4:53 AM  

Speaking of fail first look at border bill smells like Frisco.

Calvinist was bragging on Chinese rail not sanitation which is probably in LA territory.

Blogger Avalanche February 14, 2019 6:05 AM  

@105 "https://www.cell.com/current-biology/fulltext/S0960-9822(14)01213-5"

Wow wow wow! Some of that study went flying past my ability/interest to follow; but it sure ties together a lot of ... historical and current-day left-right differences!


I commented to a psychiatrist friend:

I'd've liked to SEE the pix they used... would there be a different fMRI response to e.g., their "mutilated animal" picture -- e.g., if some were "just random" torture as against normal butchering for food? Could that be related somehow to idiot vegans and their recoil responses to animals as food, as against the carnivore's acceptance of 'Nature'? (Did r/K just show up?)

That is: is there / how can there not be "meanings baggage" traveling with every picture? *I* certainly have wildly exaggerated 'disgust responses' to many things: foods, textures, immigrants, foreigners, trannies, gays, jews, illness, ... pick your 'not-us'/ not healthy categories. (I'm more and more recognizing my own Aspberger's traits.)


'War' research, (mostly done on Euro-derived, Christian-civilization-based folks; not-so-much (that I know of or have bothered to search out) on aboriginals or other races, shows that many (most?) fighters have to (had to?) 'depersonalize' the enemy into a 'disgusting thing' in order for them to kill...

Suppose this, too, points toward the massive difference between libs and cons on the whole "legalizing shitting in the streets"! We on the Right recoil in horror and disgust at the thought, much less the actuality, and laugh maliciously at the spread of disease (while working hard to not have to go near there) amongst the "supporters of the shitters...." {angry, lip-curling, disgusted expression as I type that...}

The question, I suppose, is: cause or result? Do we innately have a disgust response (chimps -- if we're related and genetically seem to be -- seem to have at least some of it?); or is this current-day mental illness all around us a result of piss-poor (or brainwashed?) parenting? As always: Nature/Nurture; I'm gonna go wander around Anonymous Conservative and see if he addresses the disgust response...)

Blogger Avalanche February 14, 2019 6:25 AM  

Hmmmm. I wonder if intentionally associating 'disgust' / disgusting things with liberal choices / desires / plans would help move ... the uninvolved ... toward the Right? If 'we' memed, or helped our chosen candidates to advertise, the legit disgust (or, hell, they do it: the illegit disgust) for the outcomes the libs intend and have created -- would that help move Suburban Sally and Graceful Loser GOPe Gerald to "reason" (by our lights) in voting?

If actual pix (emotion/rhetoric) of shit-covered streets and tents farms in front of beautiful historic buildings (and/or piles of shit and garbage in park-like lands along the border) are presented with emotionally freighted words -- would that reach past dialectic and evoke disgust-then-dislike? (Too bad we don't have Smello-vision for computers?)

I was going to ask can you sneak facts into rhetoric -- but Vox always says that 'fact-based' rhetoric is best... There's that website of pixs of Detroilet showing the "Paris of N-America" as against today's third-world hellhole?

Blogger LeeWillyMinifees February 14, 2019 7:54 AM  

@111

What happens when drug addiction is treated as...something that needs TREATMENT rather than punishment?

Nothing good.

Blogger VD February 14, 2019 8:34 AM  

Avalanche, for the love of all that is good, beautiful, and true, will you PLEASESTOP USING PARENTHESES AND OTHER PARENTHETICALS.

The whole point of interior monologue (which is to say talking to yourself) is to keep it to yourself!!! We don't need to know what your facial expression is every single time you type anything. (really we don't!) {rolling my eyes in disbelief that I actually need to point this out}

You are actively inhibiting your own ability to communicate!!!!!!! (seriously, you are) Or rather, to communicate with anyone who is not yourself!!!!!!!!!! {a very slight twitch of my left cheek, presumably indicating a level of irritation and/or annoyance}

I am just grateful (ever so grateful) that you haven't learned how to use HTML for additional "emphasis"!!!???!!! {nodding head in appreciation while wondering whether it is time for another coffee or not}

Blogger Ominous Cowherd February 14, 2019 8:56 AM  

Vox, definitely another coffee. You could start nesting your parentheticals with a bit more caffine.

Blogger veryfunnyminion February 14, 2019 9:26 AM  

"the more immediate impacts of judicial rulings and voter approved propositions have really been the direct reason as to why we are seeing the amount of homelessness in CA and Los Angeles"

Isn't it amazing how many arguments or observations can be distilled to: women ruin everything?

Eve, Pandora, etc., it's not like this is new or unprecedented.

Blogger The Cooler February 14, 2019 10:59 AM  

I have to take quarterly business trips to San Fransisco. Just got back, in fact. I am a Southerner.

...Yeah, that's my whole comment.

*shudders, kisses ground*

Blogger Fargoth February 14, 2019 11:48 AM  

@121 Shit, note taken (I have been guilty of parenthetical indulgence in the past).

Blogger Jules Pennyfeather February 14, 2019 1:01 PM  

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Blogger Jules Pennyfeather February 14, 2019 1:04 PM  

I call these rat infested cities Obama-villes!

Western Civilization really is in decline. No Space Shuttle. No Mach 2 Concorde.

Blogger Ryu238 February 14, 2019 1:09 PM  

"And a good thing it will be too. Civilization is little more than the art of being able to live in large cities without dying like short-lived, fast-breeding vermin; rural Roman life expectancies were not that much shorter than modern life expectancies" um...they lived to be 35 back then. https://www.thelocal.it/20160527/groundbreaking-study-reveals-brutal-realities-of-life-in-ancient-rome
Health was so bad.
"This moral and material descent is what happens when a nation turns away from Christianity and embraces foreigners, empire, and foreign philosophies." Um like the roman empire when they embraced christianity? https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://markhumphrys.com/christianity.killings.html&ved=2ahUKEwjElfz96LvgAhXqc98KHegMCFYQjBAwAnoECAkQCg&usg=AOvVaw3HGFyCIpcgfV5Pjzfh50tH

Blogger 1st Earl Hardwicke February 14, 2019 1:43 PM  

Poor taste to blame someone of whom you know, nothing about(asserted family connection aside) and project the rest.

Some of the most vocal proponents of immigration people were psychopath farmers trying to get a few more cents for their veg. And managers in food production. Not enough to bus in local people (Pakistanis in the UK or, Spics in The USA), had to go one further. With Eastern Europeans or Filipinos. have more of the money taken through corrupt gangmasters and drive up the cost of housing.

Who gets the most through the EU in subsides Farmers, who get's a ton of money through expensive grain subsidies in the USA, farmers. How on earth they can end up importing tomatoes from Canada to Florida I don't know.

Some of the local country people who supported this, and shirk responsibility can go burn in hell. I can understand why Caesar was popular.

Blogger IreneAthena February 14, 2019 2:06 PM  

LeeWillyMinifees wrote:@111

What happens when drug addiction is treated as...something that needs TREATMENT rather than punishment?

Nothing good.



Oh well, then. Here's to addiction!
Sláinte.

Blogger Damelon Brinn February 14, 2019 2:19 PM  

If city people think they're getting a raw deal on farm subsidies, of all things, they're welcome to cancel the deal. You keep the subsidies, we'll keep the food. We'll be able to feed our poor. You'll be feeding yours too, just not in quite the same way.

Blogger Robert What? February 14, 2019 2:55 PM  

The fact is that only White
Christian men are capable of maintaining anything resembling a modern civilization. Blacks are incapable. Latinos are incapable without White Hispanics. The Chinese need White Western civilization to steal ideas and technology from. And Jews can only push paper and sell things.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd February 14, 2019 3:00 PM  

Robert What? wrote:The fact is that only White Christian men are capable of maintaining anything resembling a modern civilization.
...
The Chinese need White Western civilization to steal ideas and technology from.


By Western standards, Chinese civilization is a 5,000 year-long horror show. Yes, they can maintain a civilization, but they would probably be better off if they didn't.

Blogger blue collar dave February 14, 2019 6:39 PM  

I disagree Coolhand...I think history shows that WE (the someone elses in this situation) will continue to submit and allow whatever our betters decide, until something changes.
Mogadishu on the Mississippi being one example.
We've lost alot since Boston Harbor but places like this are our Commitees of Correspondence and the redpill ranks are growing.
Beans, bullets, and bandages.

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