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Monday, February 18, 2019

Jordanetics is now an audiobook+

Having successfully extricated JORDANETICS: A Journey Into the Mind of Humanity's Greatest Thinker from Kindle Select, we are now able to offer it as an audiobook+, which means that you can acquire both the audiobook and the ebook in two formats from Arkhaven for $14.99.

Two recent reviews by people who have actually read the book:

Systematic breakdown of Peterson's core ideas and assessment of his character

Notice how the 1-star reviewers are claiming jealousy on Vox Day's part in order to dismiss his systematic breakdown of Peterson, instead of pointing out any factual errors. They behave exactly like the very SJWs they criticize, who bring emotional accusations to logical conversations.

If you pay attention, reviews by verified purchases are almost unanimously 5-star, while the vast majority of bad reviews are by people who haven't bought Jordanetics, much less read it. You can't review something you've never read, because that's not what the word 'review' means. But Peterson himself could very well argue, "Well, it depends on what you mean by review, eh". So maybe this is the Petersonian tactic of redefining commonly used words to make a ludicrous position seem reasonable, which Vox Day exposes beautifully in Jordanetics.

Vox Day's critiques of Peterson in Jordanetics are extremely methodical and clear, and peppered with a healthy dose of humor. He uses Peterson's own words as the basis of his attack, analyzes the very sources that Peterson himself cites as the foundation for his claims, then shows you step-by-step how Peterson has twisted the original meaning of his sources to fit narratives that are wildly inconsistent with the sources themselves. And that's just scratching the surface of what Vox Day breaks down throughout the book. Anyone who says Vox is making anything other than a clear, logic-based attack on Peterson, doesn't see the obvious irony that Vox's language and method is far more clear and concise than Peterson's ambiguous and foggy ramblings.

Then again, should Peterson's followers be expected to recognize such irony when they follow a man who claims to tell the truth, while arguing there is no such thing as objective truth? Who says Europeans should abandon basic in-group preference while defending the extremist in-group preference of another group? Who acts like a champion of free speech while de-platforming speakers like Faith Goldy? Who speaks against Communism while covering every wall in his house with realist paintings of Bolsheviks? Who says you should never cave to a Leftist mob, then at a critical moment in our Republic, says Kavanaugh should cave to a Leftist mob because of feelings? Who practices psychology while consuming psychotropic drugs for decades?

Well, it depends on what you mean by irony, bucko.


JBP has dreams...

I have to say, Jordan Peterson had me going for a while. I'd heard rumors and decided to dig a little deeper. I found this book, and jordan's magic spell was broken. The troubling part was discovering how easily I was fooled. Here's how:. Vox outlines how Jordan Peterson will give a title that sets the tone, and then go full into " Baffle Garble" where he casts a myst of nonsense where he loses you...and because you're desperately trying to find the point of what he is saying, you'll project and "fill in the blanks" and make yourself feel content with the message "YOU heard." This is why if you ask any of JBP's fans to explain ANY of the rules in "12 rules for life" you'll get a curious range of answers.

Vox sums up nicely that JBP mostly appeals to the "bottom of the barrel" and lures them into both Mediocrity and Compliance (See the chapter titled "Why Won't You Just Take Your Damn Pills" in 12 Rules for Life). As a funny, yet disturbing bonus, we discover that Peterson has dreams about "ravishing" his female cousin, as well as his grandmother rubbing her vagina on his face....totally serious here...JBP is a real Loon. I hope you enjoy the wakeup call from Vox, and don't shoot the messenger. Instead, do as I did and kick yourself for being lured in with Peterson's nonsense.

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16 Comments:

Blogger Nate73 February 18, 2019 11:30 AM  

>Who says Europeans should abandon basic in-group preference while defending the extremist in-group preference of another group?

Is this explicitly discussed in the book? I was trying to make the case for this to a friend but I realized the only thing I had was circumstantial evidence - most of the people at his lectures are white. Has he specifically praised black or hispanic in-group identity?

Blogger SidVic February 18, 2019 11:36 AM  

OT but maybe of interest. Shows that Stefan M takes his video production very seriously.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDbs2-8Aszo To topic and the criticism of JBP. While i have been delighted by the unmasking of the cucks at NRO and believe that any movement must have some self-policing. Given that the true leftist control the commanding highs, i can't help but regret that the dissident right does not have some structure that would allow the alt-right and even its nominal allies(of which i consider JBP one) to pull together in harness on the issues of agreement.

Blogger VD February 18, 2019 11:47 AM  

i can't help but regret that the dissident right does not have some structure that would allow the alt-right and even its nominal allies, (of which i consider JBP one)

You are completely and totally wrong. JBP is not merely not an ally of any kind, he is one of the very worst sort of enemies. He's the equivalent of the neocons for the Republicans in the 1980s.

You clearly don't understand that he is a true leftist. He's just not the most hard core sort of leftist, which is why so many foolish and unthinking people fall for him "because he stood up to one SJW reporter, sort of, once." Big deal. Hillary Clinton has done far more than that and no one is dumb enough to claim that we should "pull together in harness on the issues of agreement" with her.

Blogger tublecane February 18, 2019 12:32 PM  

"he casts a myst of nonsense where he loses you...and because you're desperately trying to find the point of what he is saying, you'll project and 'fill in the blanks.'"

This approximates my experience listening to Jordy, except maybe not desperately. And it's more conscious projection than Freudian projection. Because I don't remember being tricked into thinking he was saying what I wanted him to say. I mostly remember being frustrated by him leaping around and not making sense.

No doubt I read what I want to hear in people as much as the next guy. But I don't find Peterson conducive to that, particularly. On the contrary, I find him annoying.

Blogger Argus Bacchus February 18, 2019 12:36 PM  

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Blogger Argus Bacchus February 18, 2019 12:38 PM  

"If you want to learn about how much of an anti-Christian, intellectually dishonest, incestuous lying sack of shit I really am, this book is for you."

Jordan B Peterson

Blogger Chuck February 18, 2019 12:47 PM  

I did the JP 12 rules auidobook while I was working one day. Granted, it's hard to do two things at one, so I gave myself a pass and listened to it again the next day (while at work) thinking I could grab some nuggets of wisdom. Nothing. Clean your room? I went away thinking maybe it would land with more meaning on a younger man (I'm 50). But then I realized there is no reason to expect someone older than me to have his finger on the pulse of men younger than me. I was ashamed of myself for mistaking his sophistry for wisdom. I'm not a stupid man, but I was momentarily subdued by his way of communicating. I now realize it's a design feature. You aren't supposed to understand what he's saying because there isn't really anything there to understand. Kind of that snaggle toothed dipshit Cornell West. The language is meant to hypnotize not clarify.

Blogger Chuck February 18, 2019 12:48 PM  

Kind of like.

Blogger Chuck February 18, 2019 12:49 PM  

That assclown Russel Brand is of the same stripe.

Blogger MichaelJMaier February 18, 2019 1:01 PM  

Then again, should Peterson's followers be expected to recognize such irony when they follow a man who claims to tell the truth, while arguing there is no such thing as objective truth? Who says Europeans should abandon basic in-group preference while defending the extremist in-group preference of another group? Who acts like a champion of free speech while de-platforming speakers like Faith Goldy? Who speaks against Communism while covering every wall in his house with realist paintings of Bolsheviks? Who says you should never cave to a Leftist mob, then at a critical moment in our Republic, says Kavanaugh should cave to a Leftist mob because of feelings? Who practices psychology while consuming psychotropic drugs for decades?

Well, it depends on what you mean by irony, bucko.


That is a prison rape of JP.

Blogger SidVic February 18, 2019 2:17 PM  

Perhaps he is a hard leftist. Certainly JBP is a mainstream academic. I would submit that VD, because he has existed beyond the pale of polite society (i mean this as a sincere compliment) for so long he has grown out of touch with what is happening within the academy. These commissars have just unperson-ed James watson! The discoverer of the double helix, and arguably the most prominent scientist of the past century. For what. Some rather innocuous talk of race realism and IQ. I do take JBP at his word that he is a classical liberal. In his defense, He did call BS on the ridiculous idea that gender has no grounding in biology. He has popularized some solid work by social scientists on personality types etc.. i also believe he is sincerely distressed at the war on young white men and their plight in this increasingly overtly hostile society. Ahem, not to ramble but allies of the dissident right within the academy will be extremely valuable, should be cut slack because of the environment in which they operate (hostile and dangerous), and should be cultivated where practical.

Blogger VD February 18, 2019 3:03 PM  

Perhaps he is a hard leftist.

It's not a perhaps. It has nothing to do with him being in academia. Look up his history as a political activist. He's been one since he was in junior high.

Blogger tublecane February 18, 2019 5:19 PM  

@11- It hardly helps your argument to note that our institutions of higher learning have gone crazier than our host can imagine. If Peterson is seen (incorrectly) as a moderating force within a wacko leftist academia, means he's almost certainly far left of polite society without the ivy walls.

And I don't think allies within academia would be of extreme value. We shall have to retake campuses the same way the New Left took them, i.e. with guns. Literally.

Blogger damaris.tighe February 18, 2019 7:57 PM  

" We shall have to retake campuses the same way the New Left took them, i.e. with guns. Literally."

It looks as Hungary has found a way.

Blogger tublecane February 18, 2019 11:49 PM  

@14- Guns are implied when the state acts.

Blogger Nobody of Consequence February 19, 2019 10:31 AM  

As for Peterson psycho-babble: Never say in 10 words what can be expressed in 3. Circumlocution catches most idiots.

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