Thursday, February 28, 2019

Obama adminstration supported ISIS

Once more, we see that the conspiracy theory of history tends to be more accurate than the mainstream version:
Former Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki has for the first time divulged explosive secrets about how the United States supported ISIS and intentionally allowed the Takfiri terror outfit to gain power in Iraq so that Washington could creep back into the Arab country.

Maliki, who served as PM between 2006 and 2014, told a local TV station on Sunday that the administration of former US President Barack Obama had played a key role in the creation of ISIS by allowing the terrorist group to overrun Iraqi territories.

According to the former premier, in 2013, the US provided Iraq with intelligence and aerial imagery pinpointing ISIS militants who had lined up behind Iraqi borders in Syria in large groups, waiting to cross into Iraq after what they thought was going to be the imminent fall of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad.

Maliki said back then Baghdad had no fighter jets capable of bombing the terrorist positions and the Iraqi combat helicopters did not have the range to orchestrate an attack. So naturally, Baghdad turned to Washington for help and asked the Obama administration to provide the Iraqi air force with “one or two” fighter jets under the 2008 security agreement between the two sides.

Washington, however, turned down the requests and advised the Iraqi government to ask Jordan for help but that was a no-go as there was no military cooperation agreement between Baghdad and Amman at the time.

Nevertheless, the Iraqi army’s 7th Division was sent to eradicate the terrorists without air support and made some progress before landing in a deadly terrorist siege that killed its commander and nearly dismantled the whole division.

The former Iraqi PM said America’s support for ISIS did not end there as Washington proceeded to stop all supplies of helicopter parts and other military equipment to Iraq and halted a contract to sell Iraq F-16 attack aircraft even though Baghdad had paid for them in advance.
As usual, all one has to do is wait a few years and the official story almost invariably mutates. For example, did you know that despite the headlines at the time, there was no recession in 2001? Just review the current BEA statistics and you'll see that it's been adjusted out of existence.

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Blogger Servant of the Chief February 28, 2019 4:15 PM  

There was also no recession in 2008. What are you talking about? Everything's fiiiiine.

Also the sky is pink, water is dry, communism always works and we have always been at war with East-Asia.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother February 28, 2019 4:17 PM  


Blogger Pope Cleophus I February 28, 2019 4:27 PM  

This is yet more confirmation of USG complicity in creating pawns to do their dirty work. After all, we can't let Iran have all the fun with Hezbollah. The Arab Spring was nothing more than a power grab for the oil and gas sectors. Syria is an old story. Oil pipeline in the late 1940's. Now a gas pipeline in the 2000's.

Blogger andrisf February 28, 2019 4:30 PM  

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Blogger tublecane February 28, 2019 4:43 PM  

I'm not terribly well-informed on the mid-East, but when I first heard about ISIS I thought, "Why am I just hearing about this now?" Because it was already a cause for war and the Current Next Hitler.

There were what you could call a convenient enemy. In a way, they're like controlled opposition figures. If a Ben Shapiro suddenly gets famous for no apparent reason (except that he totally OWNS SNOWFLAKES on YouTube), you know someone's promoting him with hidden designs.

Blogger John Williams February 28, 2019 4:46 PM  

Turkey had reported seeing US helicopters resupplying ISIS units.

Blogger John Williams February 28, 2019 4:49 PM

Blogger Nate February 28, 2019 4:54 PM  

We created isis to give us an excuse to over throw Assad.

Blogger Jew613 February 28, 2019 4:57 PM  

Maliki might be telling the truth, but he might not. One of the most annoying things about dealing with Arabs is they lie constantly.

Blogger Danelle Blackman February 28, 2019 5:09 PM  

Why wouldn't Obama support a joint CIA/Mossad operation?

Blogger Harris February 28, 2019 5:15 PM  

I worked in the construction industry and I can tell you for a fact that in about March of 2000, new projects started drying up. The construction industry worked through its backlog of work, and then began laying off loads of workers.

I'm not sure who you are talking to about the recession of 2001, or what figures you are referencing. But my admittedly anecdotal experience is that there was definitely a downturn in the economy in 2001, and it can be traced to March of 2000, while Clinton was still President. That's when the companies stopped their expansion plans, and simply finished the projects they already had started. I myself got laid off in August of 2001, and was hard pressed to find a new job as an engineer for about 4 months.

Blogger flyingtiger February 28, 2019 5:17 PM  

I was always confused about whether ISIS was an American ally or enemy.

Blogger eclecticme February 28, 2019 5:20 PM  

The US destruction of Libya for no good reason is another unreported story.

Blogger Balkan Yankee February 28, 2019 5:26 PM  

If strategic neglect can be defined as aiding ISIS, then President Obama aided ISIS.

What Obama did was:

- "fail" to persuade the Maliki government to agree to a long-term status of forces agreement.
- order remaining U.S. forces out of Iraq by late 2011.
- brag about "ending the war in Iraq."
- chronically underestimate the ISIS threat.
- then eat crow as he ordered U.S. military forces back into Iraq to deal with the mess.

Good job, Obama.

Blogger xavier February 28, 2019 5:36 PM  

Golly,Democrats cutting off vital military supplies of an ally just when it faces a mortal peril. When have I come across a similar event?
Why yeah Vietnam in 1975.
Leftists autistically consistent.

Blogger 1st Earl Hardwicke February 28, 2019 5:45 PM  

Blood money.

Blogger Johnny February 28, 2019 5:55 PM  

My take on the situation is that the war in Syria is a proxy war between mainly Saudi Arabia and Iran. We end up being on the side of ISIS because we are tied at the hip to Saudi Arabia, and ISIS is a client of Saudi Arabia. And then there is Russia supporting Assad who is allied with Iran.

I am okay with us supporting dictators, the way of the world. But it chills me out when they are the really nasty type dictators. Saddam was in that category and the Saudis have a history of being a pretty nasty bunch. I doubt the sheiks are bothered by the behavior of their client ISIS.

Blogger MightyKevster February 28, 2019 6:02 PM  

I realize I shouldn't be surprised, but the gut punch I felt in reading this has me viciously angry. Several of my friends never got the chance to leave that horrible country. I was pissed seeing ISIS rise, effectively pissing over the fallen blood and tears we shed, but I never looked closer at the root cause. Obama's incompetence and the command staff's fecklessness seemed the likely explanation, having witnessed it intimately already. That the administration's actions were not only incompetent, but also intentional, has rekindled the rage once more.

Blogger Justin Bailey February 28, 2019 6:12 PM  

Scandal free presidency, indeed.

Blogger MichaelJMaier February 28, 2019 6:16 PM  

eclecticme wrote:The US destruction of Libya for no good reason is another unreported story.

Omar pushing to stop buying and selling oil with US Dollars was apparently a good ENOUGH reason.

Blogger MichaelJMaier February 28, 2019 6:16 PM  

Justin Bailey wrote:Scandal free presidency, indeed.

I hope that fithy Sodomite is outed and hung by his neck by a proper trial before I leave this world.

Blogger Francis Parker Yockey February 28, 2019 6:27 PM

And which side was al Qaeda/ al Nusra on in Syria again?

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Blogger nswhorse February 28, 2019 6:53 PM  

[quote]The former Iraqi PM said America’s support for ISIS did not end there as Washington proceeded to stop all supplies of helicopter parts and other military equipment to Iraq and halted a contract to sell Iraq F-16 attack aircraft even though Baghdad had paid for them in advance.[/quote]

There's that US Government trustworthiness again, always scrupulously keeping their word...

Blogger buwaya February 28, 2019 7:21 PM  

Obama abandoned him, but Maliki didn't object, he and his faction were very happy about it. He was later dumped by the Iraqis because of his demonstrated incompetence. He assumed that his mismanaged, factionalized and demoralized military could hold on against all likely threats. Bombers and helicopters are nice to have, and they had some, and so are tanks and artillery, of which they had a lot (and if these were unserviceable, why was that?). And well-armed soldiers by the tens of thousands. All of that should have been enough to protect Iraq from ISIS.

But ISIS took Mosul with a truck-borne column of a thousand men with small arms, which defeated thirty or fifty times their number armed with artillery and armor.

What Obama did in withdrawing so quickly and completely was foolish, but it was foolish because it permitted Malikis factions even greater foolishness. Its like the irresponsible police letting a drunkard out of jail while still inebriated, and watching him stagger off to get struck down crossing the street.

Maliki wants to blame someone else for his gross failures.

Blogger Didas Kalos February 28, 2019 7:22 PM  

China was granted permanent status economic wise. The $$$$$$$$ then flowed into China.

Blogger Didas Kalos February 28, 2019 7:23 PM  

You forgot Israel.

Blogger Didas Kalos February 28, 2019 7:25 PM  

Our withdrawal had zero to do with it. The USA support of ISIS had all to do with it.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine February 28, 2019 7:40 PM  


This is why shanks were invented.

Blogger ZhukovG February 28, 2019 7:46 PM  

Nate has it right. All of it can be better understood in the context of the US Deep State's ongoing war(by proxy) with Russia.

Assad stood in the way of a gas pipeline. The pipeline was to be used to attack Russia economically and reduce Russia's political influence in Europe. With help from the Saudis and Israel, ISIS became our proxy to destroy Assad.

The Russians countered with a small expeditionary force that proved surprisingly effective.

Assad's regime survives and the Russians win a huge strategic victory against the Evil... I mean US Empire.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine February 28, 2019 7:48 PM  

"We created isis to give us an excuse to over throw Assad."


Blogger Robert What? February 28, 2019 8:07 PM  

And never forget that under the (at best) neglectful eye of the Obama administration, ISIS all but destroyed the ancient Christian communities in Iraq.

Blogger Fozzy Bear February 28, 2019 8:13 PM  

Thanks to Judicial Watch, we’ve known since 2015 that the US, the Gulf states, and Turkey were planning the rise of ISIS in 2012.

Joe Biden admitted in a speech at Harvard in 2014 that "the people who were being supplied [by the US] were al-Nusra and al-Qaeda and the extremist elements coming from other parts of the world."

General Flynn told us in 2015 that this was "a willful decision" by the White House.

Syrian Ambassador Robert Ford admitted in 2015 that the US was training and supporting ISIS commanders.

Thanks to Snowden we’ve known since 2015 that the CIA was spending $1 Billion per year, 15% of their budget, funding and arming a jihadi Wal-Mart.

How much more proof does anyone need that President Trump was right: Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton were ISIS’ primary founders.

Blogger andrisf February 28, 2019 8:30 PM  

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Blogger Derrick Bonsell February 28, 2019 8:51 PM  

This goes back to Michael Flynn BTW. He constantly sent warnings to the Obama White House and Obama's aides kept spiking the intelligence.

Him getting Muellered was payback for daring to question the intelligence being given to BHO.

Blogger Northpal February 28, 2019 8:59 PM  

Hillary state department sent fighters from Libya to Syria and their weapons weapons through Turkey.
After failed Erdogan Coup the IsiL 2017 New Year's Day Istanbul night club attack signalled the roundup of IsiL cells pushing Turkey towards cooperation with Russia.
WW3 greenlight was on if Hillary was elected, why that cabal was not taken out when Trump won can only mean one thing, Pro Israel forces (owners of both American Political Parties and Military Complex) were behind it all.

Blogger Sargent.matrim February 28, 2019 9:06 PM  

This is not surprising. Why are the Neo-Cons so desperate to keep the US stuck in the Middle East?

Blogger nswhorse February 28, 2019 9:53 PM  

Because a significant number of them are neo-Palestinians and are doing the normal human thing and pursuing the interests of their nation.

Anonymous Anonymous February 28, 2019 10:27 PM  

I also think the US was doing it on behalf of Israel - because Israel was caught providing ISIS with command and control capabilities, supply, and medical support:

It wasn't just Al-Nusra rebels. It wasn't 'moderate' rebels. It was ISIS. Because just like ((Wall Street)) and ((Congress)) there was a constant cycle of militants armed by Israel and the United States between Al-Nusra and ISIS.

Thankfully the irascible anger stage is over. We have to accept divine providence and change what can be changed. But one day, one day, one day - justice.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash February 28, 2019 11:17 PM  

Andris Falks wrote:Not to be annoying,
Not working
but it is not quite true. Assads problems started not with ISIS but with rebellion in 2011.
In what way is this contrary to what was stated? What do you get from correcting a non-mistake?

Blogger Gen. Kong February 28, 2019 11:30 PM  

eclecticme wrote:

The US destruction of Libya for no good reason is another unreported story.

Oh there were literally tons of reasons to get rid of the Colonel - and we ain't talkin' 'bout fried chicken here (even if it was Housenigga Hussein) - not to mention all that fine lake of crude he sat upon. The storefront for Col. Q's deep-fried dinars vanished along with his many thousands of troy ounces of reasons into some Bankstein's black hole.

Blogger NO GOOGLES February 28, 2019 11:54 PM  

Hmm... I wonder. Maybe there's an American "ally" in the region? One that has the largest and most influential lobbying network in all of DC? Nah, it's just a (((cohencidence))).

Blogger Azure Amaranthine March 01, 2019 12:10 AM  

"Not to be annoying, but it is not quite true."

Here's a life tip.

If you feel the need to add a disclaimer, just don't say it in the first place.

Blogger Solon March 01, 2019 12:28 AM  

Took me so long to figure that one out on my own. My father, God love him, is a complete pushover, never wore the pants in the family and never taught me the lessons needed to be a man in Clown World, had to teach myself.

Boy, if I had known this life tip back when I was in high school, I'd have a lot more friends.

If you have to tell people ahead of time you're "not trying to be annoying," you're going to be annoying. Don't do it.

Side note: I don't blame my father. He is a product of his time. Boomer to the core.

Blogger BassmanCO March 01, 2019 1:10 AM  

They killed one in ten Iraqis?

Blogger Mr. Bee March 01, 2019 1:29 AM  

Website "" has gone dark. Probably victim of yellow vest crackdown.

Blogger Johnny March 01, 2019 1:35 AM  

>>In what way is this contrary to what was stated? What do you get from correcting a non-mistake?

What torques me the most are people who read into what I posted some conclusion that comes from them, not me, and then criticize me for what is actually their opinion.

The irksome thing is that it is usually too tedious to be worth getting into. And so, you know, give it a pass.

Blogger Gettimothy March 01, 2019 4:12 AM  

Republicans empowered him. The Constitution invests Congress with declarations of war and they shrugged that off.

Blogger andrisf March 01, 2019 5:45 AM  

Snidely Whiplash wrote:Andris Falks wrote:Not to be annoying,

Not working

but it is not quite true. Assads problems started not with ISIS but with rebellion in 2011.

In what way is this contrary to what was stated? What do you get from correcting a non-mistake?

I did indeed do a poor job explaining.
ISIS was initially created to combine all sunni style goat fuckers (majority of islam overall, yet about 20-30% minority in Iraq) in to a group that would fight shia islam, which is majority in Iraq and almost 100% majority in Iran, in order to fight Iranian influence in Iraq. Only then after groups that were created for purpose to kill Assad failed, only then did ISIS joined the game.

Blogger Don't Call Me Len March 01, 2019 6:14 AM  

@41 - Let us not forget that he was also holding back a flood tide of sub-Saharans and we can't have any of that.

Blogger CynicalMan March 01, 2019 9:19 AM  

I don't think we can trust any of these bastards, theirs or ours. Be they Muslims or politicians they will lie; that made Obama particularly un-trustworthy.

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