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Thursday, February 14, 2019

The contracting empire

Jim's Blog notes that the USA isn't merely losing its technological advantages vis-a-vis its now-smarter rivals, it is actually losing military capabilities it previously possessed:
As societies enter a dark age, military technologies are apt to be the last to be lost, and in the recovery from a dark age, the first to advance.

In dark ages, art declines, great buildings decline, ordinary people’s living standards decline, people harrow the ground with stones tied to bits of wood instead of iron plows, but weapons technology usually goes right on improving.

Our art is crap, we no longer build Cathedrals, but until recently, weapons were good and improving.

The 2018 Nuclear Posture Review has recently appeared, revealing that we have lost all nuclear military technology:

U.S. production of tritium, a critical strategic material for nuclear weapons, is now insufficient to meet the forthcoming U.S. nuclear force sustainment demands, or to hedge against unforeseen developments. Programs are planned, but not yet fully funded, to ease these critical production shortfalls.

This is euphemistic.  Recent attempts to produce tritium were fully funded, but failed, which failure resulted in new plans for new attempts to produce tritium, which have not yet been fully funded.

I have regularly remarked on America’s inability to produce tritium.  All existing nuclear weapons require tritium to juice their detonation, and without tritium, would produce a low yield explosion.  Tritium decays over time, and so fresh tritium continually needs to be added.  The US is out of tritium, has repeatedly attempted to produce more, and repeatedly failed.
The combination of a 10-point loss in the average US IQ with the systematic diversion of its best minds to irrelevant financial scams and other trivial activities means that the USA is now both less-populous and less capable than China and less capable than Russia. That does not mean the USA is devoid of military advantages, after all, it still possesses a legacy military that is larger and better-funded and more technologically advanced than any military in history, but the rot has now gone from being institutional and societal to infrastructural.

I mentioned previously that the US military is almost certainly going to lose its next war. It has neither the officers nor the civilian leadership that is capable of compensating for its infrastructural debilitation. What we are witnessing in Afghanistan and Syria and Venezuela is almost certainly the feeble last gasp of an empire in contraction.

“The consolidation of the states into one vast empire, sure to be aggressive abroad and despotic at home, will be the certain precursor of ruin which has overwhelmed all that preceded it.”
- Robert E. Lee

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98 Comments:

Blogger ThatWouldBeTelling February 14, 2019 7:05 AM  

Jim is great with rhetoric but simply doesn't care about facts, for example in one comment thread he confounded the Pilgrims and Puritans, this was pointed out to him, but he continued to ignore the distinctions.

In this essay, he confounds our not being able to make enough tritium to maintain our full fielded nuclear inventory with not being able to make it at all. We've got one TVA reactor making it, we need to get another up and running, but of course those who want us disarmed, those who only care about the dollars they skim off the taxpayer, have the stronger will to make sure that doesn't happen. And in due course they may well shut down that one functioning tritium producing reactor.

Blogger Skyler the Weird February 14, 2019 7:07 AM  

There are no Justinian, Narses, and Belisarius to keep an Eastern Empire going either. We should have contracted when the Warsaw Pact collapsed. No one really cared about Kuwait nor the Balkans.

Blogger SciVo February 14, 2019 7:10 AM  

I find myself in the uncomfortable position of being oddly cheered by reports of American military degradation, as it is observably not there to protect me and mine, so it is at best a very expensive ornament and quite possibly dangerous to us.

Blogger Unknown February 14, 2019 7:15 AM  

So they can make Tritium they just can't make the reactor that can make Tritium? Wut??

Why does it takes ten times longer and many times more to build a road or a railroad compared to back in the day? Is construction equipment worse than in the 1950's? Meanwhile the Chinese can build a 1000 miles of fast rail in a year while Cali has just cancelled there's with billions spent and literally not one inch of track laid. Vox is right IQ matters, a lot.

Blogger stevo February 14, 2019 7:17 AM  

This is not surprising considering we forgot how to go to the moon.

Blogger Salt February 14, 2019 7:21 AM  

All existing nuclear weapons require tritium to juice their detonation, and without tritium, would produce a low yield explosion.

Is this the why of the following?

"What makes this particular nuke new is the fact that it carries a far smaller destructive payload than the thermonuclear monsters the Trident has been hosting for decades - not the equivalent of about 100 kilotons of TNT as previously, but of five kilotons."



Blogger Lazarus February 14, 2019 7:26 AM  

We've got one TVA reactor making it, we need to get another up and running,

That is part of the plan ( from Tritium And
Enriched Uranium
Management Plan
Through 2060 , Report to Congress
October 2015
)

Production of tritium through purchase of irradiation services remains the current, most stable,
and least costly option. The Department's current expectation to increase tritium production is
to transition to the two-reactor option. TVA will continue to produce tritium in only one
reactor until a second reactor is available for tritium production should the DOE/NNSA and TVA
decide to implement the two-reactor case following appropriate review ....

Blogger dienw February 14, 2019 7:32 AM  

U.S. production of tritium, a critical strategic material for nuclear weapons, is now insufficient to meet the forthcoming U.S. nuclear force sustainment demands, or to hedge against unforeseen developments.

Bill Clinton stopped tritium production early in his presidency; opponents warned us back then that this day would come.

Blogger John Best. February 14, 2019 7:32 AM  

Shame Trump doesn't put William S Lind in change of the US military. Also the physical side of things is a problem, with the amount of unhealthy fat people who can't do the training.

Blogger Nathan Bruno February 14, 2019 7:36 AM  

It would be a shame if Swallwell could no longer threaten American citizens with a demonstration of the false god's power.

Blogger wreckage February 14, 2019 7:39 AM  

@6 The 100-kiloton warheads were AFAIK intended as a city-wrecking second-strike option to deter a massive Soviet launch. The massive Soviet launch scenario is no longer even theoretically possible, if it was ever technically feasible. In the current atmosphere I expect the missiles have no deterrent value because launching one is pretty much unimaginable. Something like a 5km "everything dies" zone. 10kt is "slightly smaller than Hiroshima" territory, I think?

Short version: current scenarios call for retaliation against a specific target, not glassing the entire USSR.

Blogger The Scribe February 14, 2019 7:40 AM  

All in all, I'm finding myself far more worried by enemies within than enemies without. I have a betting pool in my mind of which happens first:

A. Tsunami-sized mass migration in the Southwest, tens of thousands in days, and they keep coming, unopposed,

B. Nationwide, coordinated riots/ lawlessness, "days of rage" by vibrant youfs in until-recently "nice" neighborhoods, wherein local police do not interfere,

C. Economic malaise writ large, literal shantytowns, general total collapse from apathy, disintegration,

or D. Several governors getting together and collectively saying, Screw you! and seceding, and oh yeah, we'll be taking a few of these not-as-effective nukes as collateral, in case you have any ideas about us doing otherwise.

Yep, the future won't be the Jetsons.

Blogger NO GOOGLES February 14, 2019 7:43 AM  

Yeah I agree with @1. We haven't lost the ability to construct facilities that can make tritium. Politically building new nuclear facilities has been a huge issue since the late 70s - this is nothing new. The difference is that now enough time has passed that legacy facilities are shutting down and there's a 40 year gap where we built no new facilities. We CAN build them (building reactors for ships is far more demanding in technical terms) but "environmentalists" and NIMBYs have been blocking them forever.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother February 14, 2019 7:56 AM  

If we are discussing this on a humble little blog, Trump, China, and Russia already know.

It's interesting how we muse about Trump deploying the "Rods of God' to collapse NK missile research and testing tunnels in mountains and Iranian sites, yet agree we've shortsightedly sat on our hands while our nuclear stockpile rots away.

Blogger Bobiojimbo February 14, 2019 8:03 AM  

@The Scribe

A - There was a recent article about 2-5 million immigrants heading for the border with ~42 million planning to come later.

B - No one will miss the Obama years.

C - See last night's Darkstream.

I think these are the most likely to occur, because they have happened recently, or are happening now. IDk about D.

Regardless, this article is yet more reason to bring the troops home and build the wall.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan February 14, 2019 8:04 AM  

#1 I think you conservatives should really think thru your reactionary sentiments. Who is this "we" you go on about? Put down your intellectual glasses and take a close look at what constitutes the Left, they are Jim Jones/Pol Pot level of crazy, each micro group more crazy then the next so they garner attention and power and you think there is a governor on their behavior?

Blogger pdwalker February 14, 2019 8:08 AM  

Where I the the God Emperor with unlimited power, I’d do at least the following to stop the decline
- abolish the dept of education and crucify every bureaucrat.
- close every school and tell the municipal district to sort their own schools out.
- deport every non heritage America arrived or born in the US since 1965
- abolish all federal taxes and go with a straight federal flat sales tax. Let the states compete on taxes for citizens
- make open and concealed carry universal. Execute anyone who attempts to disarm or restrict a citizen of the right to bear arms.
- execute any politician who’s been guilty of any malfeasance who’s not resigned after a 1 week grace period.
- restrict the franchise to, male, tax paying, heritage Americans as long as they are taxpayers and are not on the government dole, or federal, non military, workers.
- affirmative action? Gone.
- political correctness? Gone.
- welfare? Gone.
- any snowflake protesting these changes? Citizenship revoked, and given a 1 way ticket to Liberia where they can create their own perfect society.

*deep breath*

I’m sure I could think of others.

(Yes, completely unrealistic and impractical, but a man can dream, can’t he?)

Blogger ThatWouldBeTelling February 14, 2019 8:11 AM  

@8, with emphasis, "U.S. production of tritium, a critical strategic material for nuclear weapons, is now *insufficient* to meet the forthcoming U.S. nuclear force sustainment demands, or to hedge against unforeseen developments."

The last of the Savanna River Site's reactors were shut down in 1988, there was a plan to restart one of them and it was briefly fired up in 1992. Clinton made sure it didn't continue operation. As he did in so many other ways, like making war on a county with McDonalds franchises, Clinton broke precedent with the new scheme where TVA civilian reactors produce nuclear weapons materials. Now special rods are irradiated in a TVA reactor, then transferred to Savanna to extract the tritium, the site also does things like replenish the tritium for the UK's Trident missile warheads. Adding one or more reactors to the scheme should be easy, but nothing good is easy anymore in the US.

Blogger Richard Holmes February 14, 2019 8:19 AM  

Could this possibly be disinformation?

Blogger One Deplorable DT February 14, 2019 8:23 AM  

Yeah, but we have the best tacos north of Mexico, all thanks to equality/diversity/immigration!

(That is if you can step over the rat infested homeless encampments to get to the taco cart. And if you don't get typhus.)

Blogger VD February 14, 2019 8:24 AM  

Could this possibly be disinformation?

Yes, but considering how it is consistent with every other aspect of societal decay, that is unlikely.

Blogger Nate February 14, 2019 8:34 AM  

Well I don't know who Jim is and I've never read his blog and this idiotic nonsense is certainly not going to give me reason to change that.

The problem with Tritium production is we only use 1 TVA reactor to do it. That is not because it is the only reactor that can do it... its because of proliferation concerns. Its a government owned reactor and it uses fuel of US origin. We could fire up another reactor at Watts Bar to make more tritium but if we did we'd run out of the fuel by 2030.

Companies have tried get funding for projects that would meet the demand for this fuel but so far the green idiots have blocked them.

Note that none of this has anything to do with intellectual or technical ability. None of this has to do with skill. This is pure bureaucratic stupid. and its the sort of thing that Trump's deregulation has possibly already solved.

Blogger JG February 14, 2019 8:36 AM  

The problem is political will to get the job done. The God-Emperor seems unwilling to take the political heat to simply sign a one-page executive order to build the damn wall. If he can't do that, then re-starting tritium production is out of the question.

Blogger James Dixon February 14, 2019 8:37 AM  

> No one really cared about Kuwait...

The Bushes, with their Saudi oil ties, cared.

> I have a betting pool in my mind of which happens first:

I'm hoping for D. We'll see.

Blogger VD February 14, 2019 8:42 AM  

he problem is political will to get the job done. The God-Emperor seems unwilling to take the political heat to simply sign a one-page executive order to build the damn wall. If he can't do that, then re-starting tritium production is out of the question.

People talk about "will" as if it's not an actual problem, when it is the most fundamental problem of all. Will, in this context, is just another word for "morale". And the USA is seriously demoralized, in both senses of the word.

Blogger ThatWouldBeTelling February 14, 2019 8:42 AM  

@19 and @21, to give more of the flavor of societal decay, Bechtel was able to design and built its first naval nuclear reactors for the Gerald Ford class carriers, but their electromagnetic catapult design has an architectural fatal flaw that can't or can't be easily fixed that makes them all but worthless. The carriers have 4 catapults, but they break down frequently, which is not surprising for implementing a brand new concept.

They cannot be serviced without shutting down *all* the catapults, and there's no room to add separate switches for each catapult. The level of incompetence required to sign off on this architecture reminds me of the Navy's inability and total unwillingness to get their fancy fleet submarine torpedoes working after WWII started. They had 3 flaws, their magnetic influence detector didn't work correctly in Pacific regions, a type of flaw the British discovered when they fought in the Atlantic off Norway. They swam much deeper than their setting, and the contact detonator's firing pin was perpendicular to the direction of travel, so it tended to bind on impact. All undiscovered in the Northeast based establishment because real testing was too expensive, and it took the Pacific fleet testing these torpedoes on their own to prove their flaws after more than a year at war.

Blogger Johnny February 14, 2019 8:44 AM  

I am old enough that I can remember when we were negotiating with the communists. Regardless of which side one might favor in the dispute, what was apparent was that the commies, like hard left types in general, don't do deals. There way or the highway, and that is that. And so it is with the hard left types we now have in Congress.

Blogger Nate February 14, 2019 8:48 AM  

In terms of the Great Endumbening… the skill suffering the worst is writing. The ability to write is not quite non-existent in Millennials but it is damned nearly so. The generation behind them is even worse. The essays and papers kids produce now... and I'm talking about even masters level work... is so bad your high school teacher would have read the first paragraph and torn the thing up. They write conversationally to the point where formal work ends up coming out like a drug fueled stream of consciousness.

Our Church conference held juries a couple of weeks ago for prospective new pastors. This amounts to prospects submitting a masters level thesis on theology and defending it. The process has normally be a stressful one because the stakes are so high but this year was very different. Many of the prospects simply cannot write. I don't mean the papers were sub par. I mean they were embarrassingly bad... such that we couldn't even understand the points they were trying to communicate.

its one thing to sit and talk about a problem... its another to have is smash you in the face. how are these kids going to write sermons? How are they going to communicate in 2019 as pastors? How will a church have confidence in them when they write like they have no formal education?

There are plenty of real examples to express this endumbening. Jim doesn't have to resort to making stuff up about situations he obviously does not understand.

Blogger Nate February 14, 2019 8:52 AM  

"People talk about "will" as if it's not an actual problem, when it is the most fundamental problem of all. Will, in this context, is just another word for "morale". And the USA is seriously demoralized, in both senses of the word."

Oddly enough I've come away from the last week feeling better about the Wall prospects. The construction of 6 miles has begun in Texas. Also... democratic opposition to the wall will only go so far in an election cycle... becuase the optics of pandering to their base with the wall being built in the background will simply be to much for them to resist.

Blogger PragmaticTroll February 14, 2019 8:57 AM  

Any plans for Castalia House to publish another book of William S. Lind articles. The first collection was spot on listening to it a decade later.

Blogger My 1 millionth internet profile February 14, 2019 9:01 AM  

The ability to write is not quite non-existent in Millennials but it is damned nearly so. The generation behind them is even worse. . . They write conversationally

And if you've had the misfortune to witness the average level of "conversation" amongst this group, you know what a damning indictment this is. I'm sure we've all seen videos of the new "debate" style that mostly involves swearing and screeching at high volume, and this is becoming the new "standard" for writing as well.

Blogger pyrrhus February 14, 2019 9:02 AM  

One interesting point in contradiction...In the last Dark Age beginning with Rome's final collapse, the peasants were much better off, as proven by their taller and healthier skeletons...Reason was fewer and weaker warlords able to steal their crops..

Blogger Mr.MantraMan February 14, 2019 9:03 AM  

About this technical ability and all that I'm not so sure that it exists in concentrated form since the article mentions tried and failed.

My take is from Argonne Labs and Fermi Labs in the era of Clinton they were taken over by the Unis and eviscerated and diversified. Of course I don't know the specifics of the research there but I do know they were riding the white baby boomers to retire or quit so the could be replaced. Pro tip don't live next to either since it is well known the researchers skimp on waste disposal to buy nice cars for themselves, all that waste gets dumped nearby.

Blogger pyrrhus February 14, 2019 9:07 AM  

When you are invading other nations, your nation must have a larger and better financed military because of logistics..But in terms of fighting power in say China or Russia's backyard, the US military is far too weak, and the F-35 demonstrates that our technology is not advancing in any useful way, if it is advancing at all. They have hypersonic missiles, we don't....

Blogger Nate February 14, 2019 9:08 AM  

"About this technical ability and all that I'm not so sure that it exists in concentrated form since the article mentions tried and failed."

I can't exactly say what Jim is referring to here... unless he is talking about the two reactor plan. which.. again.. the reason it failed has nothing to do with tritium or the ability to produce it. We need the fuel to run the second reactor.

Blogger pyrrhus February 14, 2019 9:23 AM  

With a huge percentage of physicists now getting their PhDs in string theory, which is totally useless, I wonder how many practical nuclear physicists are left to work on weapons? Hiring Chinese scientists has some pretty major issues...

Blogger Mr.MantraMan February 14, 2019 9:24 AM  

Yeah Nate good point, but I'll stick with my statement that technical expertise is too diffuse these days and diversity policy keeps it that way. For example, I have heard that Lockheed is top to bottom with Bindi cheap labor engineers and they have given us the F-35 the gift that keeps on giving, it sounds good on paper, but it is grounded on the tarmac. Hell the LCS can be made to sound good then the realization that it is an obscenely priced Bofors 57mm carrier that breaks down a lot.

Blogger ThatWouldBeTelling February 14, 2019 9:31 AM  

@36, that's all "settled science" by now, the "consensus of scientists" agree on what the physics of nuclear reactors and weapons are, read The Making of the Atomic Bomb by Richard Rhodes for a great introduction into the history and scientific details of nuclear science in the first half of the book. People who want to go into this field get nuclear science and engineering degrees from department of that field, and of course many of them are from the Chinese mainland, I knew one of them once upon a time.

Blogger Nate February 14, 2019 9:34 AM  

The LCS gets a bad wrap... the problem is less about the execution and more about the fact that it was a bad idea from the start. The LCS is a solution to a problem that we don't actually have. I mean try to envision a scenario when the LCS would really shine. What does that look like? Don't get me wrong... if you want them for defending the US mainland... hey... yeah... I'm all for it. But if that is the role then shouldn't they have more firepower?

They build them down here in Mobile... and I know a bunch of folks that work on them. Its not as bad as you think in terms of quality control. The issue is the modularity. As always... multitools are great in a pinch but they don't work as well as dedicated tools. the LCS... and the F35... are multitools.


The US navy projects power. Well these ships were not designed for projecting power. they were designed for near shore work.

Blogger dienw February 14, 2019 9:38 AM  

@28 Nate
it's one thing to sit and talk about a problem... its another to have is smash you in the face. how are these kids going to write sermons? How are they going to communicate in 2019 as pastors? How will a church have confidence in them when they write like they have no formal education?

This means:
1. a weak Christian family: did not have a family tradition of prayer and bible reading;
2. If there was some bible reading, the KJV was not used but some translation written in mediocre English;
3. The future pastor of America (FPA) did not have his own prayer life to speak of; nor did he on his own study the bible: he did not prepare himself; therefore, God did not call him;
4. The family church was weak: it did not have a bible study program; nor did it encourage a prayer life; furthermore, it did not seek out and prepare possible FPAs from among its youth;
5. The seminary is inept; or the religious studies of the college/university the FPA attended was never meant to encourage or teach Christians.

Blogger Nate February 14, 2019 9:39 AM  

now that's I've thought about it some more... the LCS is a Persian Gulf solution to a Pacific Theater problem.

Blogger Nate February 14, 2019 9:42 AM  

"This means:"

Jesus Christ. No. It doesn't mean any of those things. First of all the KJV is garbage and people who defend it are uneducated morons. Second... you're addressing imaginary theological problems. There were no theological problems. The problem was one of communication. When it came to defending their work... the students were often very capable of expressing sound theology verbally. The problem is writing.

This has nothing to do with theology and everything to do with secondary education.

Blogger ZhukovG February 14, 2019 9:47 AM  

When Russia and China develop a weapon system, the first priority is the weapon's capability of supporting the national military doctrine and geopolitical goals.

When the USA develops a weapon system, the first priority is how much corporate welfare we can bloat this thing with. How much pork can I take back to my home district. The needs of the military are distant second consideration.

Blogger Richard Holmes February 14, 2019 9:48 AM  

Yes, but considering how it is consistent with every other aspect of societal decay, that is unlikely.-VD

Yea, I have to agree with this. However, if it was disinformation that would be ingenious. But then I have to think, to what end? What good would that do? oh well... I guess I will never know.

Blogger Azimus February 14, 2019 9:48 AM  

In 1869 without the benefit of modern machinery, the United States completed the Transcontinental railroad. 1,868 miles from Sacramento, CA to Council Bluffs, IA - through some of the most rugged, unsettled land on earth, teeming with people who would not hesitate to slaughter isolated work parties. Add two years for the survey work, they finished in 5 years.

In 2008 another rail line was started in California to connect Los Angeles and San Francisco w/high speed rail. This is an approximately 520 mile line, which is not slated to be completed until 2029-2033, depending if you count the station completion or the line completion.

The Union Pacific railroad at times laid track at the daily average rate of 1mph with mules and wooden carts and the brute strength of men. Their total average including survey time was roughly 1 mile per day(1800yds/day), and they went through the Rockies. 150yrs later - with all the benefit technology can offer and the incredible power of compelling revenue from the residents - California is SCHEDULED to average 119yds/day.

Blogger dienw February 14, 2019 9:49 AM  

Continued from @40...

A church not only must ensure that all of its members can read from an early age; but it must ensure that as its youth grows up it can understand and communicate with the superior and complex English of the KJV; for we Protestants are people of the Book; we ought not to let priests be the only authority amongst us.

Blogger dienw February 14, 2019 9:52 AM  

Well, Nate, I wasted my time taking you seriously.

Blogger Nate February 14, 2019 9:58 AM  

"Well, Nate, I wasted my time taking you seriously."

No. you can't read. You completely misunderstood the point of the comment and rather than bother to try... you jumped on your monomania. And now... you're attempting a fighting retreat.

Blogger OneWingedShark February 14, 2019 10:03 AM  

Possibly OT: 4chan's Pol is going through the "1,500 'border' bill", and so far it's looking BAD.

The Scribe wrote:All in all, I'm finding myself far more worried by enemies within than enemies without. I have a betting pool in my mind of which happens first:

A. Tsunami-sized mass migration in the Southwest, tens of thousands in days, and they keep coming, unopposed

I believe this is the plan the elites are really banking on. (IMO, 'days of rage' would likely be a distraction, allowing more to come in, possibly acting as reinforcements.)

JG wrote:The problem is political will to get the job done. The God-Emperor seems unwilling to take the political heat to simply sign a one-page executive order to build the damn wall. If he can't do that, then re-starting tritium production is out of the question.
He seems unwilling to "bring the sword" to the enemies of the state (aside from the Sword of Twitter WRT the MSM) and more enthralled with playing the negotiation-master role when it's become increasingly obvious, blindingly so, that the elites have zero allegiance to the States and/or the People of the States except insofar as they can be herded and sheared for profit.

VD wrote:People talk about "will" as if it's not an actual problem, when it is the most fundamental problem of all. Will, in this context, is just another word for "morale". And the USA is seriously demoralized, in both senses of the word.
I think this is one reason it's absolutely vital to pray. Not only does James 5 flat-out say the prayers of the righteous are effectual, but it gives hope and a morale-boost.

pyrrhus wrote:When you are invading other nations, your nation must have a larger and better financed military because of logistics..But in terms of fighting power in say China or Russia's backyard, the US military is far too weak, and the F-35 demonstrates that our technology is not advancing in any useful way, if it is advancing at all. They have hypersonic missiles, we don't....
I'm half-convinced the F-35 exists as a limiting 'standard', a sort of "only this far, with these capabilities", as if the elites plan to make it THE air-platform for everyone... and I would be utterly unsurprised if it had in-built backdoors to the advanced data-feeds. (So e.g. elite forces could be electronically invisible to the systems, or so that the elites could secretly tag their enemies [who might be neutral or allies on actual fields of battle] as hostile.)

Blogger flyingtiger February 14, 2019 10:05 AM  

You haven't noticed that the Indian Air Force had three crashes in one month? Things are bad in the USA, our opponents have even more sad sacks in their ranks.

Blogger Nate February 14, 2019 10:06 AM  

people... the problem with the F35 is exactly the same as the problem with the LCS. The attempt to make a one-sized-fits-all multi-tool to replace dedicated tools.

This has nothing to do with technology or manufacturing and everything to do with strategic failures.

Blogger Nate February 14, 2019 10:09 AM  

if you doubt modern manufacturing... I would simply point to Cabot. Look at your hand. Now imagine you hand is holding a pile of dust. And that dust is actually made of tiny dust sized steel balls. And every single one of those steel balls... is identical.

Cabot can do that. They do it everyday.

No one could do that in 1960. No one could do that in 1990.

Blogger Azimus February 14, 2019 10:11 AM  

@51 - The problem w/LCS hate is - well the Independence variant is crap - but the problem w/LCS hate is that people are complaining about the "paper" LCS vs what the LCS will really be in a shooting war. It will be boat swarm/mine/ASW picket ship in a shooting war w/an Iran or a N.Korea (God forbid both), and it will be a picket/screen ship in a shooting war w/Russia or China (God forbid both). Its not going to jump back and forth from cruise to cruise, but war to war.

But the Trimaran variant sucks.

Full disclosure my brother in law works at Marinette Marines/whatever Italians nominally own the shipyard.

Blogger One Deplorable DT February 14, 2019 10:17 AM  

@22 - Companies have tried get funding for projects that would meet the demand for this fuel but so far the green idiots have blocked them.

Note that none of this has anything to do with intellectual or technical ability. None of this has to do with skill. This is pure bureaucratic stupid.


If the population is too stupid on average to let smart people solve the difficult problems then it is an issue of intellectual ability.

Now on this particular issue maybe you're right and maybe Trump's deregulations have already set the solution in motion. But across the board in this country we see the intellectually gifted hamstrung by the intellectually retarded. And it doesn't bode well for our future.

Blogger Nate February 14, 2019 10:27 AM  

"But across the board in this country we see the intellectually gifted hamstrung by the intellectually retarded. And it doesn't bode well for our future."

but but but… global warming

Blogger One Deplorable DT February 14, 2019 10:27 AM  

@52 - if you doubt modern manufacturing...

Modern manufacturing is in some respects absolutely remarkable. There's no doubt about that. The gifted still thrive in niches where they're safe from the mediocre.

But...to give an example...what good does it do to manufacture the world's fastest CPU on a 10nm process that no one could dream about in the 1960s if Pajeet's code leaves it running slower than a system from 20 years ago? Or if it has a back door? Or if it's off due to a rolling black out under a Green New Deal?

Blogger Nate February 14, 2019 10:28 AM  

"But the Trimaran variant sucks."

Austel says you're gay.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan February 14, 2019 10:30 AM  

#53 odds are they end up tied to the dock and a ceremonial diversity CO has pictures taken on the bridge, all before they sink, hit bottom and look like the Soviet Navy circa 1994 except aluminum not rusty steel. Oh and the other diversity loot them for whatever is worth looting.

I would not mind our great strategic minds shoot out some BS session strategy for a post-Imperial FUSA.

Blogger Jack Ward February 14, 2019 10:37 AM  

@1 I was going to comment,'Is not the tech in black and white, on paper, as to how? But, it makes sense now that if only one reactor then the God Emperor needs to get some fires built under this problem, unless, he has an existing space force from back engineered crashed ufos tucked away somewhere. Not holding my breath on that one.

Blogger Nate February 14, 2019 10:44 AM  

"odds are they end up tied to the dock and a ceremonial diversity CO has pictures taken on the bridge, all before they sink, hit bottom and look like the Soviet Navy circa 1994 except aluminum not rusty steel. Oh and the other diversity loot them for whatever is worth looting."

google Ghost Fleet. its not like it hasn't happened before.

Still there are uses for the LCS... though my own vision would be less combat more coast guard. And an argument can be made that with some modifications the LCS would be hell on wheels in the Gulf of Mexico.

Blogger Nate February 14, 2019 10:46 AM  

" But, it makes sense now that if only one reactor then the God Emperor needs to get some fires built under this problem"

Well remember... its not that there is only one reactor capable. its because of our own requirements about proliferation that we limit it to that one reactor. We could fire up a dozen reactors to do it if we really needed to. We don't... because we are being psycho about proliferation concerns.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan February 14, 2019 10:56 AM  

Last post promise, how many refugees and outright invaders can a LCS haul to our shores from the open seas or littoral waters?

IMO FUSA is toast, unless Trump acts like a boss or he is removed and the bolshies go bolshy on the useful idiots and put a stop to the anarchy, really doubtful but it is a course of action that has to be included.

Blogger Nate February 14, 2019 10:58 AM  

"Last post promise, how many refugees and outright invaders can a LCS haul to our shores from the open seas or littoral waters? "

Counter question... how many deportees can an LCS haul away?

Blogger kurt9 February 14, 2019 11:02 AM  

One of the problems is that the vast majority of nuclear scientists and engineers are now retired, if not dead. There are start-ups working to develop advanced fission such as Thorcon, Nu-Scale, and others that are working to develop the kind of fission power (MSR, thorium) that we should have developed in the 1960's. Helion is a fusion start-up that, if successful, will bred Tritium as a part of its normal operation.

There is a lot of new technology being developed in this area. But its all in private start-ups that are free from the SJW insanity that is infesting our government and other large scale societal institutions.

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Blogger Nate February 14, 2019 11:27 AM  

" After they die, then the knowledge to do these things is truly lost. "

no. it isn't. Knowledge is not stored in people. Engineering experience is stored in people... but it is also passed on in DNA. Regardless we are not close to the line where we are going to lose the ability to do this stuff. Engineering is not in bad shape. Manufacturing is not in bad shape. its not great right now but it is a huge exaggeration to say that its gone or well on the way to being gone.

Manufacturing today is unimaginably better than it was in 1960.

You folks are idealizing a time that was far from idealic. Go drive an American car from the 70s. Garbage doesn't even begin to describe it.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd February 14, 2019 11:39 AM  

Nate wrote:First of all the KJV is garbage and people who defend it are uneducated morons.

I know the KJV has its little problems. The English isn't one of them. If you can't read the KJV, you can't read Shakespeare, and your claim to literacy is dubious.

It's probably not the optimal translation for serious study.

Blogger Richard Holmes February 14, 2019 11:39 AM  

I am old enough that I can remember when we were negotiating with the communists. Regardless of which side one might favor in the dispute, what was apparent was that the commies, like hard left types in general, don't do deals. There way or the highway, and that is that. And so it is with the hard left types we now have in Congress. - Johnny

This is such a true statement. So much so and so obvious that I think a lot of people don't see it.

Blogger nbfdmd February 14, 2019 11:42 AM  

Can someone put me in contact with Hari Seldon? I'd like to sign up for the Foundation project please.

Blogger Azimus February 14, 2019 11:49 AM  

@70

You mean like someone in charge of a planetary knowledge core?

Blogger Angantyr February 14, 2019 11:50 AM  

"The level of incompetence required to sign off on this architecture reminds me of the Navy's inability and total unwillingness to get their fancy fleet submarine torpedoes working after WWII started. They had 3 flaws, their magnetic influence detector didn't work correctly in Pacific regions, a type of flaw the British discovered when they fought in the Atlantic off Norway. They swam much deeper than their setting, and the contact detonator's firing pin was perpendicular to the direction of travel, so it tended to bind on impact. All undiscovered in the Northeast based establishment because real testing was too expensive, and it took the Pacific fleet testing these torpedoes on their own to prove their flaws after more than a year at war."

Even worse, the Mk XIII could only be air dropped at speeds around 100 knts or so, which is why the TBD Devastator suffered such serious losses at Midway. It wasn't because it was obsolete (even though the design was in fact too dated) it was because they had to slow down so much, exposing them to blistering AAA and made easier targets for Japanese CAP.

Had we had torpedoes roughly the equal of what the Japs deployed, not only would our planes have had a much higher survival rate, we also would have had much greater success - for example, it is possible that Shōkaku could have been sunk at Coral Sea with better torpedoes, and Yorktown's VT-3 might have successfully struck Hiryū at Midway before she could launch her strike, which would have left Yorktown untouched and likely she would have escaped. The end result would have been 5 out of 6 Japanese fleet carriers sunk to our loss of only one (USS Lexington). Such a thrashing might have even compelled the Japs to sue for peace, given that their entire strategy depended on being able to defend their captured territory using their Mobile Fleet to shuttle around and augment land based bombers. Even if they had fought on, our Island Hopping campaign would have proceeded months faster, and allowed some islands that were historically bloodbaths to be captured with minimal loss.

We didn't get the torpedo we needed until 1944, and while it was really quite good (if not the best in the world) it was 3 years later than when we really needed it. Many American lives were needlessly lost, directly and indirectly, due to the borderline (if not out and out) treason of the Bureau of Ordnance.

Blogger LES February 14, 2019 11:59 AM  

"I know the KJV has its little problems. The English isn't one of them. If you can't read the KJV, you can't read Shakespeare, and your claim to literacy is dubious. "

I've been reading Shakespeare for years. I still can't do it without Folger's notes.

Blogger DonReynolds February 14, 2019 12:01 PM  

I am not entirely certain that nuclear weapons are or ever have been "military weapons". In the history of the entire world only one nation has ever used them in anger, dropping exactly two devices almost 75 years ago. My uncle used to say they were practically worthless, except to give diplomats something else to talk about.

But the gist of the article is correct. We Americans have lost a bit of our military edge. You could say that we have failed to develop new and better weapons to replace the old ones, and that would be correct. We can all recall weapons systems that have been brought out of retirement as needed, because no new weapon could do the job as well. The A-10 is my favorite example.

But what alarms me much more is not that we have failed to develop new weapons, but that we have prohibited ourselves from using weapons we have in abundance that have been proven on the battlefield for many decades.....because suddenly the mush heads in the Pentagon or State department have decided they are "inhumane". The flamethrower was used in WWI and WWII and Korea and Vietnam and saved countless American casualties and put fear in the hearts of the enemy. In 1973, it was unilaterally banned by the US military. Land mines have been a force multiplier for defensive postures for over a century...these have to be banned too. Napalm and white phosphorus....much too terrible these days, and don't even mention poison gases or bio weapons. The old American fixture on the battlefield...the long-range sniper, is now considered a murderer. I could go on and the American military has suffered greater casualties in conflicts because they did not provide troops with more effective weapons, that were available in abundance in warehouses.

There is nothing pleasant about warfare. It is inhumane and cruel and terrible. It was never otherwise. But I do not know of another military that willingly gave up the weapons they needed to accomplish their mission with the least loss and casualty.

Blogger LES February 14, 2019 12:17 PM  

"But I do not know of another military that willingly gave up the weapons they needed to accomplish their mission with the least loss and casualty."

Maybe because our missions have nothing to do with US national security.

Blogger One Deplorable DT February 14, 2019 12:29 PM  

@67 - Regardless we are not close to the line where we are going to lose the ability to do this stuff. Engineering is not in bad shape. Manufacturing is not in bad shape.

You're treating this as binary. One field can progress while another regresses. One company can accomplish some amazing feat while another company seems to go backwards. And pointing to some group doing some amazing new thing A does not mean that the country has the spare engineering resources to fix once solved problem B.

Blogger Azimus February 14, 2019 12:32 PM  

72. Angantyr
"and allowed some islands that were historically bloodbaths to be captured with minimal loss."

"Many American lives were needlessly lost, directly and indirectly."


Nobody gave a hot damn about saving the lives of Marines. Every Marine and Japanese soldier that died at Iwo Jima was lost so we could have a beautiful statue at Arlington. There was ZERO strategic reason to take Iwo Jima. You can't even argue that Iwo Jima was taken to scare the Japanese people into surrendering since we refused 3rd party peace envoys, nuked them for fun, then let them surrender with no changes in conditions. First B29 raid on Tokyo - 11/24/44. Iwo Jima secured - 3/26/45. We pissed away those Marines because a navy firepower tactic proved faulty and we wanted to save face.

End OT.

Blogger PJW Gent February 14, 2019 12:42 PM  

Ominous Cowherd wrote:Nate wrote:First of all the KJV is garbage and people who defend it are uneducated morons.
It's probably not the optimal translation for serious study.

No translation is optimal for serious study...at minimum you should use an interlinear and have good language tools.

Blogger Jim the Curmudgeon February 14, 2019 1:07 PM  

"the USA is now both less-populous and less capable than China and less capable than Russia"

Recent research seems to give some evidence for the claim that IQ decline is happening at half the rate in Russia and China as in Europe or North America. A couple recent papers:

Chmykhova, E., Davydov, D., & Lynn, R. (2016). Dysgenic fertility in the Russian federation. Mankind Quarterly, 57(2).

Wang, M., Fuerst, J., & Ren, J. (2016). Evidence of dysgenic fertility in China. Intelligence, 57, 15–24.

I haven't looked at this stuff in detail (not super interested) but if correct it spells bad news. Part of it is immigration, but part of it is dysgenic reproduction.

With 50% or more of STEM PhD students in the USA coming from East Asia, it is going to be mighty hard to maintain US dominance in any field when most of the researchers are Chinese ethnically.

Blogger Yordan Yordanov February 14, 2019 1:11 PM  

I just want to point out that Russia has been unable to produce any new military aircrafts in any great numbers, it's only aircraft career is incapacitated and the braindrain has been so severe, their space program has started to experience issues it did not suffer from previously.

Blogger Doktor Jeep February 14, 2019 1:22 PM  

Let's compare Rome and Egypt.
While there was much of Ancient Rome that got built over and had to be dug up, just about all of Ancient Egypt was underground and lost.
Why the difference?
Romans didn't get replaced.

Blogger chronoblip February 14, 2019 1:25 PM  

Nate wrote:Engineering is not in bad shape. Manufacturing is not in bad shape.

That elimination of a check for defects is part of a sweeping transformation of Boeing’s quality system that’s now being implemented throughout its production lines.

...

“This is a shift in thinking,” said Ernesto Gonzalez-Beltran, vice president of quality, before a production line tour at the Everett jet-assembly plant. “It will take some time, but we believe it will make our quality better … The initial outcomes are very reassuring that we are on the right path.”

https://journalstar.com/news/national/boeing-overhauls-quality-controls-more-high-tech-tracking-but-fewer/article_3b7673eb-3d2c-5991-912c-70a72505d26e.html

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Over 40 unfinished 737 were parked around Boeing’s Renton final assembly plant and along the edges of the Renton Municipal Airport. Some of these aircraft are missing their engines and others waiting for the installation of different parts.

https://airlinerwatch.com/unfinished-boeing-737s-cause-piling-up-in-renton/

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And this doesn't even begin to touch Lion Air Flight 610.

Enjoy your next flight.

Blogger DonReynolds February 14, 2019 2:19 PM  

Azimus wrote:72. Angantyr

"and allowed some islands that were historically bloodbaths to be captured with minimal loss."

"Many American lives were needlessly lost, directly and indirectly."


Nobody gave a hot damn about saving the lives of Marines. Every Marine and Japanese soldier that died at Iwo Jima was lost so we could have a beautiful statue at Arlington. There was ZERO strategic reason to take Iwo Jima. You can't even argue that Iwo Jima was taken to scare the Japanese people into surrendering since we refused 3rd party peace envoys, nuked them for fun, then let them surrender with no changes in conditions. First B29 raid on Tokyo - 11/24/44. Iwo Jima secured - 3/26/45. We pissed away those Marines because a navy firepower tactic proved faulty and we wanted to save face.

End OT.


Please read more history.
The capture of Iwo island was an important strategic move that saved the lives of thousands of Americans...

First, as an emergency landing for long-range bombers based at Guam and

Second, as the only island base where fighter protection for the bombers could reach targets in Japan.

Iwo was a Japanese island, the first of the home islands to be taken. The island itself was ordinarily uninhabited by civil populations. Iwo being the Japanese word for "sulphur". The place stinks from volcanic activity. For the Japanese, this was their Alamo.

Blogger Terrific February 14, 2019 3:12 PM  

In Re your Robert E. Lee quote: It's amazing how the American education system scrubbed completely from the history books any and every legitimate, non-slavery supporting reason the South rebelled against the North. As I matured in through my teens in the 70s and beyond, I was surprised at how critical I was becoming of Lincoln and his fascist tactics and supportive of the non-slaveholding Southerns who desperately wanted to preserve the sovereignty of the States. It's hard NOT to believe in an international illuminati using banking to steer all the nation-states of the West toward totalitarian globalism.

Blogger Azimus February 14, 2019 3:30 PM  

83. DonReynolds
Please read more history.
The capture of Iwo island was an important strategic move that saved the lives of thousands of Americans...


No point in leading with ad hominem. 36 B-29 landings took place on Iwo Jima between its capture and the end of the war. With a crew of 11, that's 396 men's lives. The score is -6,425 on that line. Add the 17,000-odd Japanese and you're -23,000 lives. Iwo Jima was the Navy needing to prove for itself that WW1 tactics were a disaster.

First, as an emergency landing for long-range bombers based at Guam and

See 36 bomber crews above. I'm not even sure if the B-29's could be used again since I believe the runways were too short for them to take off again - but its tangential so unimportant.

Second, as the only island base where fighter protection for the bombers could reach targets in Japan.

Because the Navy fighters refused to fly escort from some of their 27 aircraft carriers? That might be true. It also makes the point about escorts a fabrication.

I would also invite you to compare the altitude and cruising speed capabilities of Japan's most advanced fighter to the B-29. There is no comparison. The first UNESCORTED raid of 111 B-29's on 11/24/44 lost only one bomber. Fighter or AA? Who knows. Point is you're still deeply in the negatives on the body count.

Iwo was a Japanese island, the first of the home islands to be taken. The island itself was ordinarily uninhabited by civil populations. Iwo being the Japanese word for "sulphur". The place stinks from volcanic activity. For the Japanese, this was their Alamo.

Interesting you should mention the Alamo. The Alamo was a siege until Santa Anna wasted between 600-1000 of his men on his impatience. Iwo Jima should have remained a siege. Once the Combined Fleet was wiped out, they could've bombed the useless runway once a week (like they did in the 11/24/44 raid) and left them well enough alone to starve or commit Sepuku or play Yahtzee.

All dramatic images and standard history aside, nobody gave a hot damn about preserving the lives of Marines. That was my point, and I am correct.

Blogger Northpal February 14, 2019 3:32 PM  

What is the mystery here?
The military arm of the international banking empire was passed from a drained worn out British empire to a then vibrant American empire with the additional responsibility of protecting the safe house called Israel.
When America is drained and worn out the international banking empire simply will EOD it then designate and move on to some other jurisdiction or federation, perhaps China? India? Iran? Russia? EU?
The beat goes on with or without America.

Blogger kurt9 February 14, 2019 4:40 PM  

There is the related issue of how the hippies claimed to have saved physics. I find this claim dubious at best. The last breakthroughs in fundamental physics were relativity and quantum mechanics, both of which occured in the first half of the 20th century. The last technological fruits of applied physics were semiconductors and lasers, both of which were developed in the 1960's and early 1970's. Since that time, there has been essentially no useful technological innovation resulting from developments in physics. It seems to me that it is quite irrational, let alone pretentious, to claim that the hippies "saved" physics.

Blogger Primus Pilus February 14, 2019 4:49 PM  

"Romans didn't get replaced."

Precisely. Egypt went to shit when the Copts, a high-IQ, moral people, were conquered, then displaced, by Arabs.

Blogger Angantyr February 14, 2019 4:59 PM  


"All dramatic images and standard history aside, nobody gave a hot damn about preserving the lives of Marines. That was my point, and I am correct."

@85 Azimus
Further bolstering your point is this from Wikipedia, which is based on an Assistant Chief of Air Staff statement made soon after the war:

"The justification for Iwo Jima's strategic importance to the United States' war effort has been that it provided a landing and refueling site for long-range fighter escorts. These escorts proved both impractical and unnecessary, and only ten such missions were ever flown from Iwo Jima."

That said, I should point out that when I mentioned saving lives, I was thinking more in the sense of "incidentally", due to the fact that the Japanese would have been crippled in their ability to fight back, had their fleet been wiped out so soundly early on in 1942 - I know full well our "leadership" cared little for the lives of our boys.

Blogger Nate February 14, 2019 5:12 PM  

"I know the KJV has its little problems. The English isn't one of them. If you can't read the KJV, you can't read Shakespeare, and your claim to literacy is dubious.
"

little problems... like sticking random latin words English translations of Hebrew texts.

Blogger Nate February 14, 2019 5:13 PM  

"And pointing to some group doing some amazing new thing A does not mean that the country has the spare engineering resources to fix once solved problem B."

except of course I already explained why the problem has nothing to do with engineering resources. Or even tritium for that matter.

Blogger DonReynolds February 14, 2019 5:39 PM  

@85 Azimus

Such a shame, Nimitz did not have you on his staff in the spring of 1945. You might have told him how best to finish off the war. Of course, when Iwo was taken by the US, there was no atomic bomb and the plans for the invasion of Japan did not include your recommendations or simply dropping two atomic bombs. Okinawa had yet to be invaded at all (at greater expense than Iwo), but who cares as long as they are not Marines?

The best way to keep Marines alive is not send them into combat, but that is really not their purpose...is it? My favorite uncle was with the 2nd Marine. He joined in 1938, so he was part of the old Marine Corps.

Had you been on Nimitz staff in 1944 and 1945, you could have told him how it would all end and they could have stopped landing Marines with Guam. All the rest was a complete waste. Oh, and forget the liberation of the Philippines. That was a waste too.

Blogger DonReynolds February 14, 2019 5:57 PM  

This is not secret information....

"As early as 4 March 1945, while fighting was still taking place, the B-29 Dinah Might of the USAAF 9th Bomb Group reported it was low on fuel near the island and requested an emergency landing. Despite enemy fire, the airplane landed on the Allied-controlled section of the island (South Field), without incident, and was serviced, refueled and departed.

In all, 2,251 B-29 landings on Iwo Jima were recorded during the war....records that 1,191 fighter escorts and 3,081 strike sorties were flown from Iwo Jima against Japan."

Blogger Azimus February 14, 2019 5:58 PM  

Don Reynolds you're a smart guy and I respect you but your fact-free, sarcasm dripping response again proves me right. The Navy wasn't expecting to lose 7,000 men. They were expecting to count up the charred IJA hamburger and then have a picnic. But denying the Japanese a late war victory was worth more to the Navy than those 7,000 Marines and that is a fact. I have not studied Okinawa so i can't comment on it. But the more-palatable "we did it for our fly boys" is just simply PR fluff to let 7,000 moms and 13,000 crippled Marines think that their sacrifice was not the meaningless meatgrinder that it became. What is so difficult about agreeing with this, it is plain as the daylight.

Blogger Angantyr February 14, 2019 6:12 PM  

"In all, 2,251 B-29 landings on Iwo Jima were recorded during the war....records that 1,191 fighter escorts and 3,081 strike sorties were flown from Iwo Jima against Japan."

Frankly, DonReynolds, you're being disingenuous here. I see you took the quote directly from Wikitardia, but curiously failed to mention the paragraph that came right after:

"Some downed B-29 crewmen were saved by air-sea rescue aircraft and vessels operating from the island, but Iwo Jima was only one of many islands that could have been used for such a purpose. As for the importance of the island as a landing and refueling site for bombers, Marine Captain Robert Burrell, then a history instructor at the United States Naval Academy, suggested that only a small proportion of the 2,251 landings were for genuine emergencies, the great majority possibly being for minor technical checkups, training, or refueling. According to Burrell,


'This justification became prominent only after the Marines seized the island and incurred high casualties. The tragic cost of Operation Detachment pressured veterans, journalists, and commanders to fixate on the most visible rationalization for the battle. The sight of the enormous, costly, and technologically sophisticated B-29 landing on the island's small airfield most clearly linked Iwo Jima to the strategic bombing campaign. As the myths about the flag raisings on Mount Suribachi reached legendary proportions, so did the emergency landing theory in order to justify the need to raise that flag.' "

Blogger Techno Savage February 14, 2019 6:39 PM  

Jim was the first person to respond to Satoshi Nakamoto on the mailing list where Bitcoin was originally announced.

https://satoshi.nakamotoinstitute.org/emails/cryptography/threads/1/

For this and other reasons I suspect he is a disinformation agent.

Blogger DonReynolds February 14, 2019 6:48 PM  

@94 Azimus
It is possible for the enemy to win a battle and that means we can lose a battle? An aircraft carrier was sunk at the Battle of Iwo Jima, the last American carrier sunk in the war. Eleven B-29s were shot down by Japanese aircraft from Iwo before the island was taken. Yes, the enemy can score some hits and we will take losses. No doubt about it. The Battle of Iwo Jima could have been lost altogether and been the last Japanese victory of the war. Entirely possible.

Does that mean that the Navy was incompetent or stupid? Does that mean the Marines were tossed away carelessly? Was the battle for Iwo a complete waste? Does that mean nobody cared about the dead Marines? No, sir...it does not mean that at all and you should never say that.

My favorite uncle was not at Iwo, the 2nd Marine was preparing for Okinawa after the battles of Guadalcanal, Tarawa, Saipan, and Tinian. It was from Tinian that both atomic bombs were delivered to Japan.

Blogger John Rockwell February 14, 2019 7:17 PM  

Actually our art and architecture is crap because of deliberate efforts to demoralize our nations:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHw4MMEnmpc

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