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Thursday, March 07, 2019

Mailvox: failure theatre

A British insider interprets the latest Parliamentary procedures concerning Brexit:

HM Government has just cancelled the 13 and 14 March Commons votes for ‘no deal’ and ‘extension’.

The vote on the deal will proceed 12 March. HMG expects to lose by over 100 votes.

No one has said it, but I expect them to have a 3rd ‘meaningful vote’ on 26 March. We’re only having the 12 March vote because the Commons pushed Theresa May into it on 27 Feb.

Attempts to resolve the backstop on the Irish border are going nowhere. Barnier says that HM Attorney General Geoffrey Cox is seeking a legal solution to a political problem. We’ll continue with the ‘failure theatre’ right up to the end.

I think that they would prefer ‘no deal’ to an extension because an extension would require us to hold EU elections, where we would significantly boost the populist bloc.

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29 Comments:

Blogger Andrew Brown March 07, 2019 1:27 PM  

Kudos to the British Insider(s). We certainly don't get this on MSM.

Blogger Seth S March 07, 2019 1:40 PM  

Brexit by March 29th trading at 17% odds atm. Can make some good profit if they actually go through with it.
https://www.predictit.org/markets/detail/4672/Will-the-United-Kingdom-officially-exit-the-European-Union-by-March-29

Blogger eclecticme March 07, 2019 1:43 PM  

OT. Related to free trade. The reality of damage done to communities is more complicated than the models.
https://www.breitbart.com/radio/2019/03/05/tim-carney-alienated-america-working-class/#

Blogger Steve March 07, 2019 1:48 PM  

HM Government has just cancelled the 13 and 14 March Commons votes for ‘no deal’ and ‘extension’.


Eh, this is the first I've heard of it. Is he sure?

Blogger Azure Amaranthine March 07, 2019 2:07 PM  

"The reality of damage done to communities is more complicated than the models."

Is anything ever as clean pretty and reliable as the models?

Blogger Teleros March 07, 2019 2:11 PM  

Steve wrote:HM Government has just cancelled the 13 and 14 March Commons votes for ‘no deal’ and ‘extension’.

Eh, this is the first I've heard of it. Is he sure?


Ditto, although it might just be a case of the media being slow:

https://calendar.parliament.uk/calendar/Commons/All/2019/3/12/Daily

Notice the "Motion" in the main chamber, then go to the 13th and 14th March, and the lack of anything EU-related in the main chamber. The Internet Archive doesn't have a backup though, so I've got nothing to compare it to from y/day etc.

Blogger Steve March 07, 2019 2:22 PM  

Teleros - I dunno how these things work, but I reckon they might not officially schedule the votes until they've officially lost the Meaningful Vote on the Surrender Agreement again. And then stick it in as an emergency motion or something.

Blogger eclecticme March 07, 2019 2:43 PM  

@5. Azure Amaranthine March 07, 2019 2:07 PM
"The reality of damage done to communities is more complicated than the models."

Is anything ever as clean pretty and reliable as the models?


No, but the models are so much easier to work with. Intellectuals like models. See Taleb for examples. US towns are destroyed by free trade but ... but Ricardo.

Blogger Crew March 07, 2019 3:01 PM  

May and Merkel colluding?

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/03/john-petley-a-german-brexit-a-scandal-of-subversive-statecraft/

Furthermore, I believe that this account of the meeting has verisimilitude, because of the considerable amount of circumstantial evidence to support it. For example, John Ashworth, of the campaign group Fishing for Leave, has analysed many UK government and EU documents over the past twenty years. Familiar with the style of both, he has noted how the Withdrawal Agreement resembles an EU document rather than anything originating from the UK government. Lawyers for Britain has also noted examples in the Political Declaration accompanying the Withdrawal Agreement which sound more like a translation from a foreign language.

Blogger Teleros March 07, 2019 3:32 PM  

Steve wrote:Teleros - I dunno how these things work, but I reckon they might not officially schedule the votes until they've officially lost the Meaningful Vote on the Surrender Agreement again. And then stick it in as an emergency motion or something.

Yes, I'm wondering the same thing. Like with the "£500M / day extension" story, I'm wondering if there's fake news bouncing around, or if it's a case of a real insider.

Blogger David D March 07, 2019 4:04 PM  

Nassim Taleb has finally called out Peterson.Its obvious to everyone now:
https://twitter.com/nntaleb/status/1103755530806456322?s=20

Blogger Steve March 07, 2019 4:22 PM  

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Blogger S1AL March 07, 2019 4:26 PM  

OT: But not really, because making fun of Boomers is never OT

https://babylonbee.com/news/nations-gen-xers-announce-plan-to-just-sit-back-and-enjoy-watching-boomers-millennials-tear-each-other-to-shreds

Blogger weka March 07, 2019 4:31 PM  

This will end up as hard brexit becaise ise both May & Corbyn have no control of their MPs.

And it will be glorious. Brussels hurting and the globalists in disarray.

Blogger Starboard March 07, 2019 5:19 PM  

14. S1AL, OT...I see your Babylon Bee and raise you a boomer comedian on youtube...

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cliSRTIMvts

Blogger Pseudotsuga March 07, 2019 7:08 PM  

So the Powers that Be are basically trying to save face, then, by pretending to vote "no Brexit" but then when it happens, they can say it wasn't their fault and they voted against it?

Blogger Steve March 07, 2019 7:10 PM  

No, they really are determined to stop Brexit.

Blogger S1AL March 07, 2019 7:17 PM  

It's silly to assume that TPTB are in agreement on every issue.

Blogger Johnny March 07, 2019 7:30 PM  

Governments beyond useless, actually damaging.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash March 07, 2019 8:47 PM  

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Blogger Clay March 07, 2019 10:57 PM  

I very much apologize for the OT, Vox...but I can always depend upon your ilk for helping me out, when I can't find answers anywhere else.

I was dreaming last nite about being in the Boy Scouts.

My Asst. Scoutmaster, Mr. Freibert, devised this thing, which was a 55 gallon drum, with copper tubing screwed into the base of the drum, and about 4/5 up the drum. The tubing came out the top....went about a foot, and then dropped down to a copper coil, which you would then build a fire upon.

The heat would push the water up, where it would recirculate the water from the top....always had hot water for bathing and and cleaning utensils.

We always camped near lakes or rivers, and one of our first "jobs" was to collect the water to fill that drum.

Anyway, I can't find a name for such a contraption.

Like I said, your guys are smarter than me.

Blogger Johnny March 08, 2019 12:18 AM  

@21
>>I was dreaming last nite...

With dream material, you are the one who would know the name. My first guess for you: moonshine still.

Otherwise, not in a dream state: water heater.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash March 08, 2019 2:14 AM  

Or, to use a much older term, a water-back

Blogger Steve Samson March 08, 2019 8:30 AM  

I don't know about the US, but in the UK you could get one from any plumber's merchants.

Blogger Glaivester March 08, 2019 10:18 AM  

#21:

Perhaps you are thinking of a Soxhlet extractor?

https://infogalactic.com/info/Soxhlet_extractor

Blogger Clay March 08, 2019 1:25 PM  

Thanks for your comments. (it certainly wasn't a moonshine still, tho:)

I guess it was just a rudimentary water heater. No special name needed. I suppose some of the Roman Bathhouses used a similar concept.

Thanks for your consideration.

Blogger DonReynolds March 08, 2019 1:49 PM  

I agree with British Insider.
The EU does not want to make a deal with the UK and they would prefer the "no deal" break happen before the elections. That would seem to be clear. If they wanted to keep the ball in the air, which is normal in European politics, they could agree to extension after extension and wear down the Brexit resolve in the UK, and maybe even force another vote by the people.

Without the British in the EU, the Germans and the French would have "more latitude" to govern Europe. They would have the place to themselves.

Blogger 1st Earl Hardwicke March 08, 2019 4:19 PM  

They can do whatever they like, and find some excuse. "Brexit means Brexit!" Has changed to "there may never be a Brexit." Wishful thinking that the Queen, would do anything at 92 or ever.

I remember hearing on the radio, that Nigel Farage said something like a no deal Brexit would bring down the EU as regulations, no longer begin to favour Germany.

Blogger RA March 08, 2019 5:38 PM  

Here's take from Tom Luongo about Brexit politics.
h/t MishTalk.
https://tomluongo.me/2019/03/07/brexit-ultimatums-fly-freely-betraying-bad-faith/

TL;DR article summary: The majority of Parliament actually support May's deal (called BRINO in the link), but too many of them can't afford to be on the hook with their constituents as having supported it.

My take: they'll vote against every alternative and pray that the EU either gives in on an extension or relents on the deal to make it at least somewhat more palatable.

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