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Wednesday, March 06, 2019

Racism and rhetoric

You may recall that I predicted this very division in the Democratic Party years ago. It's the same political dynamic, writ large, that Omar rode into the Minnesota state legislature.
House Democrats erupted in protest over plans to vote this week on a resolution condemning anti-Semitism - an indirect sanction on freshman Rep. Ilhan Omar (D-MN) in response to the suggestion that supporters of Israel have "allegiance to a foreign country."

House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer (D-MD) said on Wednesday that there may not be a vote this week on the measure, saying "We’re discussing what is the best way to address it," according to the Washington Post.

Walking into them meeting, a confident Pelosi told the media that the Omar situation "would be resolved," adding "I think you make more of it than there is . . . to be very honest with you — the press loves to foment unease in the Democratic Party but we are very united" regarding the Democratic House agenda.

Moments later, all hell broke loose:

Inside the meeting, according to multiple people present, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) tried to keep her caucus focused on a planned Friday vote on a sweeping campaign and elections reform bill. She acknowledged “internal issues,” according to notes taken by a Democratic aide present, and urged members not to “question the motivations of our colleagues.”

But moments later, multiple House members stood up to challenge the decision — endorsed by Pelosi and the rest of the House Democratic leadership — to move forward with a resolution condemning religious hatred. Initially the measure targeted only anti-Semitism, with some Democrats pushing for a direct rebuke of Omar, but by Tuesday night — facing backlash from members not on board with the plan — leaders decided to expand it to include anti-Muslim bias. -Washington Post

Several Democrats those who took issue with the measure were members of the Congressional Black Caucus, who opposed even an indirect rebuke of Rep. Omar when they should be focusing on how to attack President Trump.

"I think there’s a big rise in anti-Semitism and racism, and that’s a bigger conversation we need to be having." said Rep. Cedric L. Richmond (D-LA). "But it starts at 1600 Pennsylvania. It doesn’t start with one member out of 435 members of Congress."

"Why are we doing this?" asked Rep. Bonnie Watson Coleman (D-NJ), who said that a resolution would be "redundant and unnecessary," likely referring to the January 11 rebuke of Omar after she accused the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) of contributing to pro-Israel politicians.

"We’ve individually and collectively already responded to the fact that we oppose all ‘-isms’ that do not treat people in this country fairly and justly," said Coleman. "To continue to engage in this discussion is simply an opportunity to give both the media and Republicans distractions from our agenda. We’ve got important work to do."

Other members, including Richmond, said it was unfair that the caucus would take action against one of its own members while other GOP lawmakers have uttered offensive remarks with no retribution. This week, House Judiciary Committee Chairman Jerrold Nadler (D-N.Y.) accused Rep. Jim Jordan (R-Ohio) of anti-Semitism for a tweet referring to Tom Steyer, a Democratic donor of Jewish descent as “Tom $teyer,” and Richmond and several other members mentioned Trump. -Washington Post

"We need to have equity in our outrage," said Rep. Ayanna Pressley (D-MA) who said after the meeting that she was focused on "the occupant of this White House who is seeding every form of hate, emboldening it with racist rhetoric and policies. That is who we all need to be focused on, and this is a distraction."

According to those present, Omar attended the meeting but did not speak.

Jewish lawmakers, meanwhile, insist that the House needs to pass the resolution condemning anti-Semitism in response to Omar's remarks.
What we're learning here is that the concepts of 4GW apply to rhetoric as well as war. "Racism" is effective because it is based on a perception of societally punching down. But Jews can no longer effectively play the victim game in a multiethnic empire where they are the most powerful identity group among the ruling elite. That is why the accusations of "anti-semitism" are still effective with white Baby Boomers but have no effect whatsoever on rival immigrant populations and younger US citizens.

Also, the best rhetoric points towards the truth. And call it what you will, claiming that supporters of Israel cannot possibly have any allegiance to Israel is not only untruthful, it is downright incoherent.

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64 Comments:

Blogger pyrrhus March 06, 2019 9:05 PM  

This will not end well for the Jews, whose fabled intelligence apparently didn't perceive that 3d world immigrants couldn't care less about the Holocaust, which happens on a regular basis in their part of the world.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine March 06, 2019 9:06 PM  

Even the facetiousness is getting unreal up in there.

What do you mean, Pelosi meant those statements to be taken seriously? Nah....

Blogger Azure Amaranthine March 06, 2019 9:08 PM  

""We’ve individually and collectively already responded to the fact that we oppose all ‘-isms’ that do not treat people in this country fairly and justly,""

Like equalitarianism?

Blogger Jack Ward March 06, 2019 9:09 PM  

You know, it occurred to me that there may not be room enough on 155 artillery shells to write out the tradition messages before launching the things downrange come civil war 2.o. The messages would be so complex as to use up square inchs quickly and probably require a dictionary to compose.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine March 06, 2019 9:10 PM  

When the going gets tough, the weak lose focus. Permanently.

Blogger Alcuin March 06, 2019 9:20 PM  

Pelosi quipped of the press, “If you say the bacon is not crispy enough, they'll have an article about this unrest and unease in the Democratic Party.”

Blogger Silent Draco March 06, 2019 9:21 PM  

Jack Ward, what part of "DEUS VULT" takes too much space?

Blogger Watchu talkin bout Willis March 06, 2019 9:23 PM  

"Orange Man Bad" has a limited shelf life, as well. 9 Thermidore is going to be a hoot.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd March 06, 2019 9:25 PM  

OT but nifty: "Conservatives conserved nothing, not even the ladies room." – WRSA Reader

The masthead at WRSA. I'd say the conservative brand is seriously damaged.

Blogger Arthur Isaac March 06, 2019 9:32 PM  

Cue the Baghdad Bob memes..

Blogger Gastguma March 06, 2019 9:41 PM  

1. The Democrat Party needs to be strengthened.
2. Diversity is strength.
3. Therefore, the Democrat Party needs more diversity.
Q.E.D.

Blogger Damelon Brinn March 06, 2019 9:44 PM  

Just think: If the GOP had held the House, we would have missed out on all this fun.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan March 06, 2019 9:51 PM  

I will guess that Omar has the equality game down well.

Blogger Azimus March 06, 2019 9:54 PM  

Everyone named in this story needs a sharp slap across the face, from Omar to Pelosi to all the sundry 2-digit IQ grandstanders...

Blogger Txdino March 06, 2019 9:58 PM  

So The Dems don't propose and pass an anti-semitism resolution, what are the consequences? I don't see anything happening to them. I am curious to see how brazen the progs become.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother March 06, 2019 10:00 PM  

A man can not serve two masters

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother March 06, 2019 10:01 PM  

He will love Israel or despise America, or he will love America and despise Israel.

Blogger Doktor Jeep March 06, 2019 10:04 PM  

"So you don't see race and religion when you vote. That's mighty white of you. Is the favor being returned?"

Blogger Johnny March 06, 2019 10:06 PM  

opposed to all ‘-isms’...?? Well they are not apposed to stupid-ism or slander-ism

Blogger John March 06, 2019 10:12 PM  

*POPCORN*

Blogger Daniel Babylon March 06, 2019 10:12 PM  

Might "Dems are the real racists" finally become relevant rhetoric?

Blogger tc March 06, 2019 10:14 PM  

I’ll confess it, at least: like thousands of other typical Jewish kids of my generation, I was reared as a Jewish nationalist, even a quasi-separatist. Every summer for two months for 10 formative years during my childhood and adolescence I attended Jewish summer camp. There, each morning, I saluted a foreign flag, dressed in a uniform reflecting its colors, sang a foreign national anthem, learned a foreign language, learned foreign folk songs and dances, and was taught that Israel was the true homeland. Emigration to Israel was considered the highest virtue, and, like many other Jewish teens of my generation, I spent two summers working in Israel on a collective farm while I contemplated that possibility. More tacitly and subconsciously, I was taught the superiority of my people to the gentiles who had oppressed us. We were taught to view non-Jews as untrustworthy outsiders, people from whom sudden gusts of hatred might be anticipated, people less sensitive, intelligent, and moral than ourselves. We were also taught that the lesson of our dark history is that we could rely on no one.


there is nothing new under the sun.
http://age-of-treason.com/2013/03/01/stephen-steinlight-on-jewish-power-and-interests/

Stephen Steinlight
Fellow
One of the nation’s most insightful voices on immigration, Dr. Stephen Steinlight is a Fellow at the Center for Immigration Studies (CIS) in Washington, DC...

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Blogger Lovekraft March 06, 2019 10:17 PM  

In their addled minds, the Pelosis and the Omars are likely never for a second considering how they are appearing to the vast majority.

Instead of finding universal solutions and a pulling-back of the layers of identity politics jockeying, they appear, to me, to be mongrels fighting for an (undeserved) piece of the pie.

Blogger Doktor Jeep March 06, 2019 10:21 PM  

Oh look some secret footage of that meeting was taken!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=heorwUlRb6A

Blogger Crew March 06, 2019 10:31 PM  

Is Ezra Klein talking about the Jews here?

https://twitter.com/ezraklein/status/1100460823946813440

There's no identity politics as dangerous as the identity politics of dominant groups who feel their power and status is being threatened.

Blogger ghostfromplanetspook March 06, 2019 10:33 PM  

Hey stop noticing that nation we've been shoveling trillions of dollars to you anti-Semite!!

Blogger Jack Ward March 06, 2019 10:45 PM  

@7 Draco "DEUS VULT??

Now, you have gone and messed up my evening. Must I really have to look that up?
Darn it, give a man a break.

Blogger Don't Call Me Len March 06, 2019 10:52 PM  

"It doesn’t start with one member out of 435 members of Congress."

They're all large and in charge until it's time to take a bite out of a big ol' shit sandwich, then all of a sudden they're just little people, insignificant cogs in a huge wheel who have only a tiny tidbit of responsibility, if any at all.

Blogger S. Thermite March 06, 2019 10:53 PM  

Rhetorically speaking:

White supremacy is believing we have to treat Jews better than they treat non-Jews in Israel.

Christian intolerance is believing we have to treat Muslims better than they treat non-Muslims in the nations they control.

Blogger Jack Amok March 06, 2019 10:55 PM  

Might "Dems are the real racists" finally become relevant rhetoric?

Nah. By the time that becomes relevant rhetoric among White folk, being a racist won't be a bad thing any more.

Blogger Daniel Babylon March 06, 2019 11:09 PM  

Also, is there any other country remotely as involved in America's pockets as Israel?

Blogger S. Thermite March 06, 2019 11:25 PM  

By the time that becomes relevant rhetoric among White folk, being a racist won't be a bad thing any more.

When things get that bad, normies will view anti-racists like they view anti-vaxxers: “Ignorance is no excuse...don’t you care about protecting our kids?!”

Blogger Azure Amaranthine March 06, 2019 11:46 PM  

"what part of "DEUS VULT" takes too much space?"

The part where it needs to be bigger for more emphasis.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine March 06, 2019 11:47 PM  

"Also, is there any other country remotely as involved in America's pockets as Israel?"

Maybe China in a few more years, but probably not.

Blogger Komuzo March 07, 2019 12:33 AM  

"Jewish lawmakers, meanwhile, insist that the House needs to pass the resolution condemning anti-Semitism"

It's funny how the Jews here are essentially saying "Jew lives matter" but the Black Dems respond with a version of "All lives matter".

Blogger Zaklog the Great March 07, 2019 12:39 AM  

So, Vox, I was just thinking about this recently while reading something by C.S. Lewis. You have a great deal of respect for Lewis. You also have great disdain for Plato/Socrates. It seems to me that C.S. Lewis has a lot of respect for Socrates. So am I misreading one of you? Do you just disagree with Lewis on this point, but otherwise like his work? Is there some kind of nuance I'm missing?

Blogger Joe Smith March 07, 2019 12:59 AM  

There is some irony in a Somali Muslim going after Jews in the US government for having split loyalty. I'm not saying she's wrong--no dual citizen should be allowed to hold a position in government. But come on, this broad clearly has no loyalty at all to the US. No Muslim has primary loyalty to the US, and most have none at all.

Blogger Unknown March 07, 2019 1:31 AM  

They hate Christianity so much that they're willing to import millions of Muslims into Christian nations in an attempt to destroy it. Do they know that the low IQ, low trust muzzies are immune from their rhetorical wizardry? Probably, but they just can't help themselves.

@37- Omar doesn't pretend to be an American. She was elected to represent her nation in the Imperial government and she makes no bones about it. It's why she can call out the Jews for doing the same. The only group in America that still clings to civic nationalism are the whites.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan March 07, 2019 2:41 AM  

Will more education on the Holocaust help the children of POC understand their place in the hierarchy? Moar I say.

Blogger SciVo March 07, 2019 2:56 AM  

I think that the fundamental problem for them is trying to draw a distinction between hating on "Jews" and hating on "stuck-up, over-privileged, rich, white, private-college fraternity/sorority douchebags whose outsized success is really just because of their nigh-incestuous connections." I mean, the latter hatefest is basically Democrats' favorite pastime, even (or especially?) for those it describes.

Blogger rumpole5 March 07, 2019 3:01 AM  

Reports of the increasing chaos in congress sounds more like a scene from the Marx Brother's movie Duck Soup or Caligula's equine Counsel appointments than any orderly process of the U S government. What are people thinking when they vote for Democrats?

Blogger Roger Hill March 07, 2019 3:56 AM  

American evangelicals have displayed a tacit primary loyalty to the nation state of Israel. They base this nonsense on verses in the OT about blessings and cursing of Abraham and his decedents. To try and cut through the muddled theology with them is shear folly.

If asked, "What if Israel's interest conflicts directly with our own; whose interest should we pursue?" Their first response is often to say that whatever benefits Israel, benefits the United States. To them Israel is some type of magic talisman or lucky rabbit's foot.

Blogger Lazarus March 07, 2019 5:47 AM  

referring to the January 11 rebuke of Omar after she accused the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) of contributing to pro-Israel politicians

Electronic Intifada has project veritas type videos documenting how this is actually done.

Also, those who are elected to the Israeli parliament (Knesset) have to renounce any foreign citizenship before they can sit in the house.

Five new Knesset members renounce foreign citizenship

Approximately one-third of the Knesset members who will be sworn in at a special ceremony on Tuesday are newcomers to the Israeli parliament. Among them are five who, before pledging to serve the Israeli people, had to formally renounce foreign citizenships.

Good for the goose, good for the gander.

Anonymous Anonymous March 07, 2019 6:11 AM  

So will the Dems transition to being the less anti-American of the two parties by virtue of third world anti-Semitism? If I must be ruled by foreigners, I would prefer Russian or Chinese invaders but even government by representatives of a low IQ third world horde is preferable to the current Ashkenazi occupiers.

Blogger Uncle John's Band March 07, 2019 6:14 AM  

"Do they know that the low IQ, low trust muzzies are immune from their rhetorical wizardry?"

It's not so much immunity as coming preprogrammed and locked.

Blogger Avalanche March 07, 2019 6:18 AM  

@39 "Will more education on the Holocaust help the children of POC understand their place in the hierarchy? Moar I say."

Nah, they, too, already hate White people with more than enough vitriol to fuel the next holocaust -- OURS!

Blogger Avalanche March 07, 2019 6:24 AM  

ZeroHedge: "an indirect sanction on freshman Rep. Ilhan Omar (D-MN) in response to the suggestion that supporters of Israel have "allegiance to a foreign country." "

Wonder what hysterical vibrations Ann Coulter is bouncing between: bad moslem vs. bad allegiance; pledging fealty to israel vs. America First; anti-semitism vs. the truth....

'spect she'll implode...

Blogger Ledford Ledford March 07, 2019 6:32 AM  

I want to drastically cut immigration, but I will admit the Somalis are fun. Before you're allowed into the USA, you should have to demonstrate a history of clan warfare and piracy. If no one in your extended family has ever fired full auto from the back of a pickup, we don't want you. Also, you have to live in Cambridge, MA.

Blogger Sillon March 07, 2019 7:45 AM  

Diversity is their (((Democrats))) strength.

Don't they like Diversity?, Do they not want to become stronger?

(((Democrats))), please explain.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan March 07, 2019 7:47 AM  

I will assume the Muslims are programmed to go back to wanting the good old days of the infidel people of the book tax, which is better than being a beggar getting a few shekels thrown at you if you are a shabbos step an fetchit.

WAG pretty soon our new POC overlords will be hinting that "Israel nice country, shame if something happens to it."

Blogger Gettimothy March 07, 2019 7:56 AM  

Omar for Speaker!

Blogger Stilicho March 07, 2019 8:01 AM  

This week, House Judiciary Committee Chairman Jerrold Nadler (D-N.Y.) accused Rep. Jim Jordan (R-Ohio) of anti-Semitism for a tweet referring to Tom Steyer, a Democratic donor of Jewish descent as “Tom $teyer,”

Dats raci$$


As for the larger point, Arabs are semites too... time for them to ride the AIPAC coattails to some genuflection and handouts. Me and my cousin against the world and all that. See, e.g.. new alliance between Israel and Saudi Arabia against Iran.

Blogger Johnny March 07, 2019 8:03 AM  

Hey I know. how about us being for us and for other people only when we choose to be?

Nah, too radical an idea.

Blogger Stilicho March 07, 2019 8:13 AM  

@Scivo: Omar knows incest like Bo knows football...

Blogger sysadmn March 07, 2019 8:14 AM  

after she accused the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) of contributing to pro-Israel politicians.

You can't write satire this good. This anti-semite accused a pro-Israeli PAC of giving money to pro-Israeli politicians? Such nonsense. Everyone knows that's not how the American Congress works!

Blogger Ominous Cowherd March 07, 2019 8:45 AM  

sysadmn wrote:You can't write satire this good. This anti-semite accused a pro-Israeli PAC of giving money to pro-Israeli politicians? Such nonsense. Everyone knows that's not how the American Congress works!

They aren't pro-Israeli until the check clears.

Blogger Apoliteia March 07, 2019 9:22 AM  

@48 Not to educate you in matters of your own house (as a foreigner), but I would think twice before loading sympathetic remarks onto Somalis. In my country (not Sweden, Not Russia, but close to both) they make a large proportion of immigrant population and we have found them.. not funny.

Or cheap.

Blogger Patrick Kelly March 07, 2019 9:46 AM  

"We need to have equity in our outrage," said Rep. Ayanna Pressley (D-MA)

Is this a quote from the Idiocracy script?

Blogger KPKinSunnyPhiladelphia March 07, 2019 10:18 AM  

Patrick Kelly wrote:"We need to have equity in our outrage," said Rep. Ayanna Pressley (D-MA)

Is this a quote from the Idiocracy script?


I am late to thie post, but when I saw that quote, I thought, THIS is the mindset of the crazies.

There is not enought popcorn available to support watching these yahoos implode.

Blogger Ledford Ledford March 07, 2019 10:42 AM  

Apoliteia wrote:@48 Not to educate you in matters of your own house (as a foreigner), but I would think twice before loading sympathetic remarks onto Somalis. In my country (not Sweden, Not Russia, but close to both) they make a large proportion of immigrant population and we have found them.. not funny.

Or cheap.


They do concentrate the mind, though. You want global vibrancy in your hometown, here you go. It takes only a small number of Somalis to teach a lesson about immigration and its consequences.

Blogger Zander Stander March 07, 2019 11:31 AM  

Even if you renounce Israeli citizenship, you have right of return in perpetuity. Therefore, by definition you are a dual citizen if you have a passport other than Israeli. If a law were to be passed banning Congresscritters from having dual citizenship, it will of necessity ban Jews. Not gonna happen.

Blogger DonReynolds March 07, 2019 1:02 PM  

Democrats owe Donald Trump a huge debt of gratitude for holding their polyglot party together...each segment of which despise each other with a passion. Without Trump to distract them from each other, they would be seconds away from the biggest donnybrook in the history of this country.

Yet, that day will come, when Donald Trump is no more, so they better figure out how to make Trump holograms at their future meetings. They can spend four years blaming the previous administration, Obama did. But I have serious doubts there are any Democrats with so many faces that they can lead that party in the future. The only question is what parts of the party they are willing to sacrifice for party unity in the future.

Blogger sammibandit March 07, 2019 5:16 PM  

Someone on voat said that Jews who pretend to be white when it suits them should be mocked for being antisemitic against themselves.

Btw, Vox, you have some fans on Voat.

Blogger SciVo March 08, 2019 12:04 AM  

Sammibandit, what does that rhetoric have? What truth does it point at?

Better to accuse them of white nationalism. What are they going to do, deny it? "Okay, whatever, 'It's okay to be white' guy." What are they going to do, deny it? "Stop hating on yourself like some Jew."

You see, that points at the truth that "white" is a meaningless term mostly used by haters, imperialists, and conmen. All yours would do is reinforce the B.S. frame that whiteness is racist, so Native Europeans are bad and deserve bad ends.

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