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Thursday, May 16, 2019

Striking down the thought police

This is potentially great news. It appears the God-Emperor is finally preparing to strike back against the converged companies that have been persecuting his supporters:
The Trump administration is asking victims of social media censorship to share their stories, promising to “fight for free speech online” and exciting conservatives who feel their plight has been ignored.

No matter your views, if you suspect political bias has caused you to be censored or silenced online, we want to hear about it! http://wh.gov/techbias 

Of the named platforms, only Twitter had anything to say about the administration’s call for stories, responding that it enforces its terms of service “impartially” without regard to “background or political affiliation.” President Donald Trump met with Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey last month at the White House just hours after complaining (via Twitter) that the platform didn’t “treat [him] well as a Republican,” and Dorsey has admitted in the past that they’ve been “too aggressive” in banning right-wing users, but many complain that nothing has changed.
I suggest every AH:Q backer submit the story of how the AH:Q campaign was deplatformed by Indiegogo to the administration site.

SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORMS should advance FREEDOM OF SPEECH. Yet too many Americans have seen their accounts suspended, banned, or fraudulently reported for unclear “violations” of user policies. No matter your views, if you suspect political bias caused such an action to be taken against you, share your story with President Trump. 

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77 Comments:

Blogger The Smoking Man #3424 May 16, 2019 11:22 AM  

Before you can salt the earth you must collect salt.

Ave Imperator!

Blogger swiftfoxmark2 May 16, 2019 11:26 AM  

I am wondering how the compiled data will be made into a policy of some kind.

But this is just the first step. You get a list of people who have legitimate grievances and then you move forward from there.

Blogger Tars Tarkas May 16, 2019 11:28 AM  

I was banned from Twitter for advocating the death penalty. I said that someone should be arrested, tried and if convicted, shot. I was very careful to word it in that way and it didn't matter. It doesn't matter if you follow the rules or not. That is why they don't like well defined rules.
He should have done this a long time ago.

Blogger Mandos May 16, 2019 11:29 AM  

It's an encouraging sign. Nothing will change until coercive measures are taken. The layer of vernacular around the Left's thirst for raw power is growing thinner by the day. Will be interesting to see what the administration is gearing up for by building their case like this.

Blogger Warunicorn May 16, 2019 11:33 AM  

I miss the days when digital high schools like Twitter weren't around...

Turn the screws!

Blogger wahr01 May 16, 2019 11:35 AM  

It should only take about 30-60 days to collate enough stupid bans for calling men men, saying biological sex is real, and bans with no stated puprose at all to justify exterminatus.

A note that when these SJW's can't get their way via rule-lawyering, they simply pull rank. CarpeDonktum's account was still locked out last I checked despite 2 separate appeals showing no ToS violations.

Blogger Balam May 16, 2019 11:40 AM  

It has been observed that, in a sudden demonic miracle, millions of leftists are laissez-faire small government overnight!

Blogger LZ May 16, 2019 11:40 AM  

How much of the overall censorship do you believe is the result of bad censorship algorithms, bad policies and outsourcing censorship/moderating to places like the Philippines? The over-the-top censorship of right-wing thought is intentional, but I assume Islamists are exploiting the flagging system to remove content they don't like. My sense is the tech companies went too far boosting earnings and pleasing advertisers, that this is not only a political problem, but a fundamental business failure.

Blogger dc.sunsets May 16, 2019 11:41 AM  

If they edit, they're publishers.

If they're publishers they can be sued.

Frankly, it's all much ado about nothing IMO. Political change occurred when pamphlets were distributed on horseback, so "controlling" the electronic megaphone is meaningless, minds change regardless.

The Internet and "Social" Media have two main effects to me: they reduce the cost of opening ones mouth (and inserting foot) publicly and they highlight areas of friction between disparate peoples. The latter seems likely to create fire amidst a world of dry tinder, of mutually intolerable people shuffled together like mixing metallic sodium and water.

Blogger Gettimothy May 16, 2019 11:58 AM  

Tempted to report National Review for de-platforming Derbyshire, Buchanan, Sobran, Brimelow, Stein...

Good idea?

Blogger Stocky Anglo May 16, 2019 12:11 PM  

Cerno-pointed out in a video not long ago that a major failing of the God Emperor is/has been his lack of interest in standing up for his own people. President is clearly an Alpha character and as such does have a responsibility to stand up for his people. It goes with the job. All I can say is it's about time.

Blogger Balkan Yankee May 16, 2019 12:11 PM  

An example of well-timed political jiu jitsu. Now Silicon Valley gets to explain why it can't live up to its own rules - 18 months before the Nov. 2020 presidential election.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother May 16, 2019 12:13 PM  

For people complaining he isn't doing anything, timing and preparation are essential.

Blogger Cetera May 16, 2019 12:16 PM  

I have submitted the Alt-Hero:Q-IndieGoGo deplatforming to the President's site, including several links to this blog.

VD, you have specifically asked those of us who were part of the attempted group arbitration to not email you, but I haven't received anything from our usual contact regarding it either. I did send an email to that contact requesting more information when he did the email poll asking who might be interested in doing their own individual arbitration request, but haven't heard back.

Any updates on this? Should I just be sitting tight and waiting? I know you were asking just the other day where all the claims were.

Blogger Gregory the Tall May 16, 2019 12:19 PM  

Loads of written evidence being gathered in one very important place.

Blogger Long Live The West May 16, 2019 12:29 PM  

"For people complaining he isn't doing anything, timing and preparation are essential."

Exactly. People talk about how the decay has been ongoing for over a century, then expect Trump to fix it in a year. Trump has done A LOT in just a couple years. Give him 5 and a half more and you'll see much more.

You also have to keep in mind that he is one man. There are literally thousands of things he has to get done. Sometimes you'll just have to wait a bit until he gets to it on his massive to do list.

Blogger sammibandit May 16, 2019 12:35 PM  

Obviously, this only applies to US citizens or permanent residents. Good luck to you all. Glad to see illegals have no rights here.

Blogger Avalanche May 16, 2019 12:36 PM  

@2 "compiled data will be made into a policy of some kind."

"Fair accommodation" laws probably require allowing posters one does not like?

Blogger VD May 16, 2019 12:38 PM  

Any updates on this? Should I just be sitting tight and waiting?

Sit tight. You'll be hearing from someone this week. Trust me, no one has forgotten you.

Blogger VD May 16, 2019 12:40 PM  

Good idea?

Are you one of the individuals deplatformed? If not, then it's a bad idea.

RTFM, FFS.

Blogger Wraithburn May 16, 2019 12:52 PM  

As an AltHero Q backer, I've added my bit about the campaign to the info collection.

Blogger PFrank May 16, 2019 12:54 PM  

Compare and contrast with the UK government's "Online Harms White Paper". Some of its targets I have some sympathy with (child grooming) but others (extremist content) have a more Orwellian flavour. It will be interesting to see how this sits with the publisher principle mentioned above.

I would like for the UK to have a constitution, just as I would like to remove the monarchy, but this would unfortunately be under the control of the fine folk responsible for our Brexit.

Blogger Gregory the Tall May 16, 2019 1:00 PM  

I hope once everybody has submitted their stories law firms will bundle them into class action or individual arbitration tsunamis whichever is possible.

Blogger James Dixon May 16, 2019 1:03 PM  

> I suggest every AH:Q backer submit the story of how the AH:Q campaign was deplatformed by Indiegogo to the administration site.

I think that can be arranged. :) It'll have to wait till I get home tonight though.

Blogger Jay in DC May 16, 2019 1:04 PM  

Anyone who isn't afraid to put their real name on a document I -strongly- suggest you write about the recent deplatforming of Chateau Heartiste.

Hell, even Milo went on Gab and said that CH was "the only website blog I read every single day" so he had an outsized influence to be sure.

In addition to Vox's great suggestion about all the drama here w/ Arkhaven I would simply do a "roll call" of the various people we know that have been nuked and the list is QUITE long. Milo, Owen Benjamin, Bounding Into Comics, etc etc etc.


There is a literal laundry list, so much so that I don't know why WH.Gov is even asking for individual stories because the tales are legion and they are well aware the numbers are in the hundreds, not dozens.

Blogger wahr01 May 16, 2019 1:28 PM  

In other news, they're looking to formalize their anti-white/anti-asian admissions practices by baking in an "adversity score" into the SAT's

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/adversity-score-sat-exam-college-board-calculate-students-admissions-college-wall-street-journal/

Blogger Beloved May 16, 2019 1:29 PM  

Right in time for the 2020 campaign season.

Blogger Doktor Jeep May 16, 2019 1:55 PM  

Perhaps Laura Loomer's crying got through to Jared and his tribal instincts are kicking in.
Sorry to be so jaded but I'm almost 50 and have been through enough failed hope.

Blogger Damelon Brinn May 16, 2019 1:59 PM  

The shills were out in force quickly on this yesterday, claiming it was a honeypot to collect the names of right-wingers (as if we aren't on lists already) and saying that private companies can do whatever they want. Anyone who's ever run a business should have a good laugh at that notion.

It's pretty clear that the social media companies have their own disinfo teams for these occasions. They don't have a chance on this one, though. Americans are heavily invested in the First Amendment, to the point that we've allowed the left to push things like gay rights parades into our communities over the years. The only ones on Big Social's side are a few spergy libertarians and the blue checkmarks crowing about silencing dissenters, and they can't hide their ugliness.

Blogger Nate May 16, 2019 2:01 PM  

taking on google and facebook is an absolute no brainer. an argument can be made that in the very near future it will be impossible for a rightwing candidate to win anything if they are not dealt with .

Blogger James Pyrich May 16, 2019 2:18 PM  

After sharing my IGG story, I shared the wh.gov link in a closed Facebook group and received an automated notification about Group Content that goes against Community Standards. I know, stop using Facebook, but--that was funny.

Blogger James Pyrich May 16, 2019 2:20 PM  

@29 I just consider the spergs to be little more than demoralizing agents at this point. They refuse to be reasoned with, and basically channel the Lobster King to get you to do Nothing.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother May 16, 2019 2:26 PM  

James Pyrich,

You should report that too.

Blogger James Pyrich May 16, 2019 2:40 PM  

Stg58, I most certainly did.

Blogger Tars Tarkas May 16, 2019 2:56 PM  

PFrank wrote:I would like for the UK to have a constitution, just as I would like to remove the monarchy, but this would unfortunately be under the control of the fine folk responsible for our Brexit.
From what I understand, it does have a constitution, though it is different from America's in that it is not a single document.

This is the problem. The gov causes a problem and then trying to fix it will cause a 2nd problem. In this case, it is that our elites would not be the elites had they not gamed the existing system.

The monarchy is preferable to Democracy. Representative Democracy has proven to be a worse system than outright communism. It has empowered the worst possible people and put them in charge. It has created a society where advocating on behalf of the vast majority of people is the worst possible sin under this creepy system. The very worst kings of past have never done something quite as insane.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd May 16, 2019 3:04 PM  

Renbo wrote:Cerno-pointed out in a video not long ago that a major failing of the God Emperor is/has been his lack of interest in standing up for his own people.

I've been saying that is a sign that we are not his people. This latest development might be a sign that he's about to prove me wrong!

Blogger God Emperor Memes May 16, 2019 3:20 PM  

I had one Twitter account banned for telling Bradley Manning that he is mentally ill and that he is not a woman.

Blogger God Emperor Memes May 16, 2019 3:28 PM  

Another of my Twitter accounts was banned when I said that the people promoting "drag kids" are pedophiles.

Blogger HouellebecqGurl May 16, 2019 3:54 PM  

A cynic might say this is merely a way to collect names & emails in order to target the people that have been affected by these tech companies with 2020 election e-begs by saying, "If you want Trump re-elected, send e-shekels so he can fight tech censorship in his 2nd term!"
A cynic might also suggest that other ploys to target folks whose main concerns are healthcare, abortion, immigration, etc., will also targeted in the same manner.

I worked on a successful gubernatorial campaign, (if one counts elevating Newt Gingrich to office a success), as well as a failed presidential campaign, (Bob Dole's actually was a success), & I would've had such an easy way to target voters on such a personal, individual level, I would have been stoked.

BTW,the people who are getting the majority of alt right wing media booted offline are folks like Bill Kristol & his new org, Newsguard, along with Tech bought GOPe politicians/RNC head fuckery mucks, as well as the good ol' Chamber of Commerce gang.

Which of our enemies have real power/connections, members of NYT's approved Intellectual Dork Web, fake right wingers at Fox (esp looking at you, new Fox board member, Paul Ryan), the Ben Sasse/Mitt Romney wing of the GOP, the wealthy Neocon think-tanks or some blue haired nut w/10K followers squealing about Nazis on Twitter?

Remember, plenty of so-called righties are more than willing to throw the actual righties under the bus, to curry favor with the likes of Jack, Mark, Tim Apple & Sundial Pikachu, who can remove their competition & any naughty dissident thought for them, just like the lefties wanted in the 1st place. Win-win.

Blogger DonReynolds May 16, 2019 4:09 PM  

BEFORE the internet, there were networks of (the few) computer users, such as Compuserve, which used huge mainframe computers in Ohio, owned by H&R Block. H&R Block figured correctly that they could sell compiler time by telephone modem to computer users and make money, while controlling how much idle time they wanted to sell. Everything seemed to run faster and the prices were cheaper overnight.

In those days the "social media" was BBSs, Bulletin Board Systems, which included items for sale, library lookups and social chat rooms. Generally, it was interactive but operated more like a community bulletin board. You could post messages, but there was no email yet, so you had to read the scrolling replies to see if your message caught anyone's attention. Yes, it was pretty primitive and there were speech limitations common for general audiences, and there were no images or photos, so it was all text.

More than a decade later, when we had the internet, it did not take long for the chat rooms to be ported over to the various services and the old BBSs to emerge as "social media". I suspect everyone expected, and still expects, the social media to operate much like the community bulletin board, and to a large extent it really does.

What is new is the exercise of raw power by the new partisan tech giants, specifically targeting right-wing and conservative voices and opinions. They did not make a secret of this fact for the past few years, especially during the Obama era and since the Trump election. So it seems odd that they would play dumb now and claim none of that ever happened when there are millions of people who have been banned, blocked, and their comments/materials purged forever. Who are they trying to fool?

First, they brag to their Leftist allies and the MSM about how they are decimating and destroying the right online presence, now they are claiming that does not happen anymore. Lemmie guess.....now that they have intimidated or culled the herd of all the right-wing and conservative voices, what remains is allowed "free speech"?

Blogger Lovekraft May 16, 2019 4:48 PM  

The broader strategy requires control over the WHY such a list is needed. First amendment, American values etc are one thing. But I hope one element is directed at the lower- and middle-class woman voter, a crucial voting bloc for electoral victory and one which seems in play.

We haven't seen many polls showing the decline in favorability of hag havens like The View and Ellen, but I suspect it has been significant. Showing how fake media and vicious Sorosian activists affect the general population (thus appealing to women). The left WILL try to control this and play the same oppressor-victim narrative. This has to be battled to the end.

Blogger Balam May 16, 2019 4:50 PM  

Ominous Cowherd wrote:I've been saying that is a sign that we are not his people. This latest development might be a sign that he's about to prove me wrong!

Assuming this pans out for us, maybe it's just that the government is very slow. Maybe Trump wanted to defend us but also wanted to be bulletproof in his approach; we can already see that they're still trying to impeach despite a 2 year Mueller investigation completely exonerating him with no influence on the investigation from Trump. We also see that Obama's super quick changes were rolled back with similar speed, all of Obama's stuff done without any foresight for permanence besides the assumption that Hilary would win. In addition judges are throwing the dogs onto anything Trump does, also slowing things down.

In some ways expecting the government to fix the country quick is like expecting it to fix a road quick. Local action is faster, always.

Blogger dh May 16, 2019 4:55 PM  

If you don't publish this comment should I report you? This seems like a bad idea.

Blogger Balancing forces May 16, 2019 5:01 PM  

Seems like a scam for donation bucks. Its pretty obvious at this point tech companies ban everyone right of marx, if they let wrong think slip out.
We already have the 1A why doesnt he just enforce it? What's the point of bringing awareness to something everyone is already aware of?
How is this not merely data mining?

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother May 16, 2019 5:05 PM  

DH, you think Trump is going to give a shit about some butthurt gammas? This isn't an all purpose reporting tool. It's the hammer to crack FANGT into a million pieces.

Blogger David Ray Milton May 16, 2019 5:12 PM  

Great start. Let’s see if Trump can actually do something about it. It’s great that Trump cares about protecting his people, but it only matters if policy can be affected. Let’s hope he has time with his busy schedule protecting the Middle East to do something to help the Americans who put him in office.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother May 16, 2019 5:23 PM  

Snark and ankle biting comments are easy to make from the cheap seats, David Ray Milton.

Blogger Zaklog the Great May 16, 2019 5:36 PM  

If you don't publish this comment should I report you? This seems like a bad idea.

Are you genuinely this dumb? The comments section of a personal blog is in no way equivalent to a major platform like Twitter, Facebook, or YouTube.

Blogger SciVo May 16, 2019 5:42 PM  

Speaking of thought police, check out Twitter's new push to steer users away from "what it labels as misinformation about vaccines."

I have to apologize to the anti-vaxxers: I didn't say anything, but I quietly thought you guys were overly paranoid. It certainly didn't help any that it was a SWPL thing; for all I knew, it could've been the SocJus cult position. This shows that it isn't.

Now, this by itself doesn't prove anything specific. But it's certainly suggestive that someone has something to hide about vaccines, and that it's somehow anti-Christian.

Blogger The Observer May 16, 2019 5:43 PM  

If you don't publish this comment should I report you? This seems like a bad idea.

At this point, "let's not use this weapon because the enemy might use it against us" is a dead cuck's cry. Insisting on playing by Marquis of Queensbury rules when your opponent is swinging a sledgehammer around is the cry of the fool or traitor.

Blogger Lazarus May 16, 2019 5:45 PM  

This is an article Q referenced in drop 841 re Internet Bill of Rights. It is from Jan. 2018.

Consumers Need an Internet Bill of Rights

I also remember some talk about regulating social media under a different department than currently, but haven't dredged it up yet.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother May 16, 2019 5:45 PM  

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2019/05/16/spygate-fallout-italian-prime-minister-giuseppe-conte-requests-resignation-of-intelligence-officials/

Ripples are spreading outside of the US on the coup coming apart.

Blogger VD May 16, 2019 5:46 PM  

A cynic might say this is merely a way to collect names & emails

That's what a conservative would say. Because God forbid that anyone ever does anything to fight back.

Blogger VD May 16, 2019 5:47 PM  

This seems like a bad idea.

Seems....

Blogger Avalanche May 16, 2019 5:51 PM  

@44 "We already have the 1A why doesnt he just enforce it? "

Because he CANNOT enforce it on private companies! The 1st limits the GOVT blocking speech, not private companies. Now, if we could get a ruling, somewhere somehow, that Fakebook and Twatter are NOT 'public utilities' like the phone co., which has no responsibility -- and no ability -- to censor what goes out over 'their lines, that would help. Publishers ARE responsible for what they publish and the bannings SHOW that they do, in fact, 'control" what they allow to be published, and that might break the fake hold they have on their freedom to ban!

Blogger Noah B. May 16, 2019 5:59 PM  

For several days after Trump won the election, the Twitter mods were banning anyone who gloated about the win or even just tweeted out memes of Trump gassing Hillary. These people are unhinged.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd May 16, 2019 6:10 PM  

Balam wrote:Assuming this pans out for us, maybe it's just that the government is very slow.

That's pretty much what Q has been saying: that they will grind exceedingly slow, and exceedingly fine. It's hard to tell what is info and what is disinfo, but maybe some of the Q stuff about spanking Big Tech was info.

Blogger Laramie Hirsch May 16, 2019 6:13 PM  

@35 "The monarchy is preferable to Democracy. Representative Democracy has proven to be a worse system than outright communism. It has empowered the worst possible people and put them in charge. It has created a society where advocating on behalf of the vast majority of people is the worst possible sin under this creepy system. The very worst kings of past have never done something quite as insane."

Absolutely. Attempting representative democracy turns your aristocracy into an oligarchy, and your democracy into a mob. Vox is right to call out Free Speech as a tool of moral subversion. He is also correct to call out the U.S. for what it is: an empire.

The Founders would argue they've given their posterity a democratic republic that's conducive to liberty. What we actually have is a zombie apocalypse free-for-all, gifted with consequence-free license.

True liberty is the freedom to pursue what is right and good. In our society, it is quite difficult to pursue goodness without interference. A singular leader, moral and with good philosophical bearings, is necessary to guide a national culture and what's permitted. A singular leader is PARTICULARLY necessary for a vast populace such as this, though it's arguable we'd need an emperor and then kings beneath that emperor.

Trump's sorta a king. Maybe he can make a decent inroad in this fight. At least until the end of his term.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother May 16, 2019 6:27 PM  

Conservatives are pussies. Even guys like Andrew Wilkow say they are bad asses.

Blogger Beloved May 16, 2019 6:27 PM  

@48

I've spent the last few days researching the Owen Haters. Yes, they're dumb. They have to be to buy the obvious lies their being fed.



Blogger wahr01 May 16, 2019 7:01 PM  

@55

"Because he CANNOT enforce it on private companies! "

Don't give me that.
He can mobilize the DOJ's civil rights and anti-trust division.
He can place a call to Pai over at the FCC.
He can make a few discreet inquiry to the IRS.

In short, he can mobilize the executive to make their continued operations a living hell of red tape.

Even without any basis in law he can extract what he wants, the same way Obama did with the banks.

Blogger Matthew Hopkins (MHN) / Sam Smith May 16, 2019 7:09 PM  

The US government can in fact regulate social media firms. The old 'fairness doctrine' for political balance on TV was found constitutional. Really interesting case law. Clearly no one wants Mark Zuckerberg and Jack Dorsey to be the arbitors of political free speech. Not even a lot of leftists.

Blogger Jack (LJCSOGHMOMAS) May 16, 2019 7:35 PM  

By far the number one reason why anyone gets banned by twitter, facebook, or amazon is criticizing Jews. I really don't see Trump going to bat for Kevin MacDonald or Heartiste. Maybe - maybe - there will be some sort of new policy that benefits real dissidents. But given the YUGE neocon influence in the Trump admin, I rather doubt it.

Blogger jarheadljh May 16, 2019 8:44 PM  

Big tech is begging (quite literally in Zuck's case) for regulation. They want to regulate social media until it costs too much for future competitors to get into the social media business. I expect they will get their wish as a lot of politicians pat themselves on the back for having struck a blow for free speech.

Blogger Damelon Brinn May 16, 2019 9:28 PM  

I'm reminded a lot lately of a Hank Rearden line: "I am sorry, gentlemen, that I will be obliged to save your goddamn necks along with mine."

Blogger wahr01 May 17, 2019 1:34 AM  

@64

Interestingly enough, the latest ban waves have been against right-leaning jews who criticize hamas-tied individuals, organizations, and ideology.

Blogger Tars Tarkas May 17, 2019 1:57 AM  

Jack (LJCSOGHMOMAS) wrote:I really don't see Trump going to bat for Kevin MacDonald or Heartiste.

This is remarkable. What in god's name makes you think Trump knows who Kevin McDonald or CH is? Nobody knows who these people are. Hell, we don't even know who Heartiste is!
Don't get me wrong, I read his site. I liked his stuff and I hope he opens shop again. But without a system in place to handle this day to day stuff, there is no way to do it. We cannot expect the POTUS to go on a Twitter rampage for some guy with a blog.

Blogger Silent Draco May 17, 2019 2:57 AM  

I expect Office of the President or Commerce Dwpaetment to collect, analyze, and interview the complaints. When the EO is signed and proposed legislation submitted, I expect Prwsident Trump to speak with the presence of 4-5 very telegenic victims of deplatcorming for badthink. Shaming of Fakebook, TrueLies, and others will follow with some persistent and stinging memes.

This sets socialist media in chaos 12-18 months before the next election, and makes them vulnerable to propaganda and election-rigging charges. Couple this with some public fang-pulling of the Intel agencies, for what keep looking like acts of treason or at least sedition.

They never expected a Scoundrel, who turns their arts upon them and uses a whip of rhetoric to herd them.

Blogger Avalanche May 17, 2019 7:32 AM  

@61 "Because he CANNOT enforce it on private companies! "
Don't give me that.
He can mobilize the DOJ's civil rights and anti-trust division.
He can place a call to Pai over at the FCC.
He can make a few discreet inquiry to the IRS.

The First Amendment restricts the FEDERAL GOVT -- not private or state anything! Civil rights and anti-trust are two wholly different sections of "our" laws, and have nothing to do with the First. The FCC might, possibly, at a stretch-unto-breaking have the slightest bit of connection to the First -- if you mangle the laws well enough -- but the courts would likely not got here. And the IRS?!?! Just no.

The God Emperor surely could have been doing things all along with all sorts of laws - but NOT with the First Amendment!

Blogger Avalanche May 17, 2019 7:38 AM  

@68 "This sets socialist media ... vulnerable to election-rigging charges"

HERE'S where I want to see some Trumpian action! If it's illegal for "Russian bots" to "interfere" with elections, to provide 'free' advertising for our enemies.... when does the FEC step in and charge all the media outfits for their politicking anti-Trump and pro-anyone with a "D"?! Where is the totting up of how much was spent to trash GEotUS and sing insane praises of Death Grandma? Let the law (ha. right.) go after the voting machine fraud, the illegals voting, the paper votes signed by demented folks in care homes who don't even know what they're doing. THAT the law should already be doing... If what did they say? 97% of ALL media reports during the election on Trump were negative?

Blogger wahr01 May 17, 2019 11:18 AM  

@69

Your gamma-cucking is noted.

Blogger OneWingedShark May 17, 2019 11:30 AM  

Renbo wrote:Cerno-pointed out in a video not long ago that a major failing of the God Emperor is/has been his lack of interest in standing up for his own people. President is clearly an Alpha character and as such does have a responsibility to stand up for his people. It goes with the job. All I can say is it's about time.
Interesting; do you have a link to the video, or a title I can search?

Longtime Lurker wrote:An example of well-timed political jiu jitsu. Now Silicon Valley gets to explain why it can't live up to its own rules - 18 months before the Nov. 2020 presidential election.
Indeed so; especially considering how they've been signaling their intent and preparing to clamp down on social media to prevent another 2016 Trump campaign. (Can't have the rabble electing someone the elites haven't selected!)

Blogger Ominous Cowherd May 17, 2019 12:59 PM  

Avalanche wrote:The First Amendment restricts the FEDERAL GOVT -- not private or state anything!

Silly girl, are you still pretending that raggedy old constitution means something?

Blogger OneWingedShark May 17, 2019 1:31 PM  

wahr01 wrote:@69 Your gamma-cucking is noted.
What gamma cuking?

She' absolutely right in the limitations of the First Amendment: it applies specifically and explicitly to "congress", no other entity at all — therefore, any claims that [e.g.] state/city/county laws which constrain speech are unconstitutional are wrong.

You see, everything you've been taught on the matter is a lie — and I'll show it. The claims that state/county/etc laws are constrained by the 1st Amendment stem from the courts's notion of "incorporation" under the 14th Amendment. While this might seem innocuous at first, consider the actual outcome: the first amendment specifically and explicitly applies to congress, so if we were to apply this, as written, to the states/counties/etc it would have no effect. So then, through the magic of incorporation, the courts say "what this really means is" and alter the amendment before applying it in order to achieve whatever effect they wish, such as striking down abortion laws or blasphemy laws.

Blogger Ariadne Umbrella May 17, 2019 2:36 PM  

Trump knows about Chateau Heartiste. One of the debates, Trump looked down at his phone while CH was tweeting responses to Hillary's statements. Trump looked up and said what CH had just tweeted. It was an unique debate point, too, so you could see that it wasn't everyone.

I was confident deciding on Trump, fairly early, because CH was for Trump. I am not as discerning of people, so it helps when someone has both a knowledge of good and evil, and a willingness to call it out. CH has always been consistent and clear-eyed. He is only foolish about what he admits he knows nothing of- children.

I think that's part of my horror at Tolkien's obliviousness. One expects the great and the good to be able to protect the small and the weak by knowing about evil, and using the great's power to protect the weak, not to be so good as to be blinded.

Blogger CynicalMan May 17, 2019 7:06 PM  

The Techs should be required to document and submit for review details and reasons for every banning since their founding. If you are going to be tried, convicted and punished in the pubic square then the public has a right to the proceedings.

Blogger wahr01 May 17, 2019 10:34 PM  

@74

If restaurants can be made to serve blacks, and christian mingle can be made to serve gays, then Social Media can be made to serve Conservatives.

Anyone whinging out "muh private company" is an open cuck at this point.

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