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Tuesday, May 07, 2019

What else did you expect?

Alexa has been playing Stasi since her inception:
Would you let a stranger eavesdrop in your home and keep the recordings? For most people, the answer is, "Are you crazy?"

Yet that's essentially what Amazon has been doing to millions of us with its assistant Alexa in microphone-equipped Echo speakers. And it's hardly alone: Bugging our homes is Silicon Valley's next frontier.

Many smart-speaker owners don't realize it, but Amazon keeps a copy of everything Alexa records after it hears its name. Apple's Siri, and until recently Google's Assistant, by default also keep recordings to help train their artificial intelligences.

So come with me on an unwelcome walk down memory lane. I listened to four years of my Alexa archive and found thousands of fragments of my life: spaghetti-timer requests, joking houseguests and random snippets of "Downton Abbey." There were even sensitive conversations that somehow triggered Alexa's "wake word" to start recording, including my family discussing medication and a friend conducting a business deal.
But don't worry. They totally mean well and would NEVER deplatform you simply because they have you on record committing crimethink.

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81 Comments:

Blogger pyrrhus May 07, 2019 11:06 AM  

O/T Speaking of conspiracies, Big Bear's new youtube on "the nuclear scam" is "unavailable."

Blogger swiftfoxmark2 May 07, 2019 11:15 AM  

The future of the SJW is where people are unable to get to work because their car won't start because Alexa heard them utter badthink the night before.

Blogger tublecane May 07, 2019 11:21 AM  

Are warrants already being issued to seize these recordings as part of criminal investigations? Do potential extortionists have access to it? Are they keeping track of who speaks curtly to the feminine voice, which phony issue preoccupied journalists not long ago?

Blogger Lazarus May 07, 2019 11:33 AM  

O/T Speaking of conspiracies, Big Bear's new youtube on "the nuclear scam" is "unavailable."

Its live. I have it on right now.

Blogger wahsatchmo May 07, 2019 11:40 AM  

I just noticed that Amazon has added an Alexa Privacy tab that gives more options for deleting your voice recordings and even has a "Manage How Your Data Improves Alexa" switch. If you click the switch to "Help Develop New Features" to off, you receive a warning and asks if you really want to do this.

You click "Turn off", and then it promptly stays on. You can't actually turn it off.

Blogger Sterling Pilgrim May 07, 2019 11:47 AM  

OT... Vox, on your recent Darkstream you mentioned Kratman and his take on "our posterity". I've just seen the article written by John C. Wright, who agrees with Kratman. Have you and Wright had any discussions on this topic? Thanks.

Blogger allyn71 May 07, 2019 11:48 AM  

16 It forced all the people, small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to be given a stamped image on their right hands or their foreheads,

17 so that no one could buy or sell except one who had the stamped image of the beast’s name or the number that stood for its name.

Blogger BalancedTryteOperators May 07, 2019 11:53 AM  

All SJW's are 1. two-faced conmen 2. insane liquifying clowns like Pennywise from *It* 3. brainwashers

Vox Day is the monster slayer and clown destroyer we need.

Blogger Dreadnaught May 07, 2019 11:56 AM  

No, the future they're aiming for is one where you starve to death as a bum because you didn't demonstrate your loyalty to them by letting them chip you. Say, in the right hand or forehead.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine May 07, 2019 11:57 AM  

INB4 Nate rage.

Anonymous Anonymous May 07, 2019 11:59 AM  

"after it hears its name."

Also, after it just thinks it has heard it's name (but it was just something that sounded similar).

Looks like Orwell was wrong, he thought we all would have a Telescreen forced on us by the government, but actually, we are buying it ourselves out of free will ...

Blogger James Dixon May 07, 2019 12:00 PM  

The main advantage of the Alexa feature on Kindle Fire tablets is that you have to turn it on. I've tried it out, but I haven't found any use for it yet.

Blogger James Jones May 07, 2019 12:03 PM  

Link says unavailable due to legal reasons in my region. I'm in the UK.

Blogger Damelon Brinn May 07, 2019 12:04 PM  

Saw a good meme yesterday:

People in the 60s: "I better not say that, someone might be wiretapping my house."
People today: "Hey Wiretap, do you have a recipe for pancakes?"

Anonymous Anonymous May 07, 2019 12:12 PM  

And what's even worse is, as it looks now, these "speech assistants" are being built into everything, in 10 years, you'll probably have a hard time finding a car without such a thing.

Blogger kurt9 May 07, 2019 12:12 PM  

I don't understand why this is surprising. Any device that is connected to the internet and has sensors (audio, visual, etc.) has the capacity to data log your activities and to pass that data to whomever can access that device. That's why I would never have a product like Alexa in my home. Nor will I go for kitchen "smart" appliances that use internet connectivity either.

Blogger I’ve Seen Things You People Wouldn’t Believe May 07, 2019 12:17 PM  

And Amazon Web Services runs server farms for the govt, including intelligence agencies.

Move along; nothing to see here.

Blogger johndoe03526 May 07, 2019 12:18 PM  

I can't imagine why people have these things in their lives. How lazy have people become?

Blogger liberranter May 07, 2019 12:26 PM  

We're now being delivered an object lesson in what happens when lazy people become so enthralled to technology that they become dependent upon it to manage every single aspect of their lives. It would be nice to think that maybe people will finally WTFU and learn from this, but experience tells me that I would be an idiot to think so.

Anyway, it's official now: anyone who, from this point forward, actually willingly obtains or maintains one of these artificial Big Sisters in their homes is an idiot who deserves all the suffering they have coming to them.

Blogger DonReynolds May 07, 2019 12:29 PM  

Before a proto-Libertarian can claim that Google, et al, is a private entity and they can do whatever they want...
they need to think for a moment.

Why would a private entity be permitted to do by right what would be allowed only by due process by the police, after approval by a jurist, and then only if there was probable cause that a felony crime was involved?

Do all private entities have the same proto-Libertarian rights and powers over the lives and privacy of their customers, and anyone who comes in range of the cameras and microphones concealed in their products...or is this something only the tech giants possess?

Blogger basementhomebrewer May 07, 2019 12:31 PM  

Amazing how cheaply people give up their privacy. It was obvious that these were listening devices in your home from day 1.

What is the trade off?

It controls your lights for you? There are plenty of other products that will do that as well that don't have microphones.

It has access to your music library? So does your phone connected to a bluetooth speaker (I realize the phone is a spying device as well but at least it has some unique utility and it's microphone only gets muffled audio when in a pocket)

It tells you jokes, the weather and traffic? Now the excuses are just getting sad.

Take them out of your house and throw them in the trash. Quit trading away your freedom and privacy for small conveniences.

Blogger Stilicho May 07, 2019 12:43 PM  

I am surprised that anyone was naive enough to not understand that Alexa was created to do this from the moment it was first introduced. Same for other "smart" devices and th "Internet of things". The purpose of such technology is surveillance and control. Anything else is incidental.

Blogger VD May 07, 2019 12:44 PM  

I've just seen the article written by John C. Wright, who agrees with Kratman. Have you and Wright had any discussions on this topic?

No, as a general rule, I try to avoid having that debate with people. I did my best to avoid having it with Tom Kratman, but he insisted.

Blogger Jamie-R May 07, 2019 12:53 PM  

When paper money goes and the day comes when you go to buy groceries with Apple Pay but you can't because you're a fascist. The young woman with Feminist t-shirt will remind you that it's best you starve anyway. It's either die like the Ukrainians during a Lazar Kaganovich Cull or embrace the globohomo grrrl power to stop another Holocaust. I've got the joy, joy, joy, joy down in my heart, Where? Down in my heart!

Blogger Sam May 07, 2019 12:55 PM  

@20
The first US secret police were the American Protective League, a private organization.

Blogger VFM #7634 May 07, 2019 1:03 PM  

@7 allyn71 @9 Remonstrances


I suspect The Mark of the Beast is the ultimate motivation behind the nonstop coverage of the ZOMG MEASLES OUTBREAK! 666 CASES NATIONWIDE!!! -- to condition people into accepting compulsory shots of foreign substances.

Blogger Johnny May 07, 2019 1:07 PM  

They totally mean well...
Can we be real. Nobody totally means well.

You can't actually turn it off...

Well, surprise, surprise. You can't always turn it off. (No criticize to poster intended.)

Blogger The Cooler May 07, 2019 1:24 PM  

Application for Admittance Into the People's Republic of the Cooler:

1.) How many SJWs have you killed?
2.) How many people have you killed?
3.) Had you ever owned an Alexa?
4.) Why?

It's that important.

Blogger Johnny May 07, 2019 1:46 PM  

>>You can't actually turn it off.

Take it as a given tat if they can intrude on your privacy, they will.

Blogger Servant May 07, 2019 1:47 PM  

Any libertarianwho is not afraid of big business does not understand the problem of big government. Ayn rand comes across as starry eyed, and after learning about her personal life, it was really libertinianism.

Absolutley no excuse for it either. My dad was talking about big business since the days of reagan. The company store was a well documented phenomenon when she wrote her book. Anybody who doesn't regard big business as an enemy is stupid.

Vox you once made a throw away comment about this level of technology being unsustainable. Ive since wondered what you meant by that. I tend to think any level of technology that has us not thinking about next winter is probably too much.

Blogger Hammerli 280 May 07, 2019 1:53 PM  

This is why I refuse to let one of those contraptions in my home. Given the Bond-villian qualities of the Silicon Valley magnates, you could be certain they would use it as an always-ON bugging device...for nefarious purposes.

Blogger Jamie-R May 07, 2019 1:57 PM  

Speaking of censorious outcomes, the Dread Ilk channel, now more moderate than *some* with a Moon Landing tribute video is over on Bit Chute. You Tube Police decided to give one too many infractions and one tires of the militarisation of American Police.

Blogger The Depolrable Podunk Ken Ramsey May 07, 2019 1:59 PM  

People buying the Alexa seem to make the calculation, "Well, I already have a smartphone and a tablet, so I'm probably already spied on and screwed." And to a large degree they are correct about that. But there's no sense in extending your exposure, not to Amazon's walled garden. At least you can lock down smartphones and tablets to some degree and use them more intelligently.

On a hilarious and related note, today on the front page of the WSJ Google has announced they are cracking down on intrusive tracking cookies. Except their own, of course. Those are good! They say. It's for your own protection! :: ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO US. (FOR YOU OWN GOOD.)

Blogger dh May 07, 2019 2:02 PM  

Why would a private entity be permitted to do by right what would be allowed only by due process by the police, after approval by a jurist, and then only if there was probable cause that a felony crime was involved?

This is stupid and wrong. The question is: what right can I sub-ordinate to a 3rd party via implied contract law.

Amazon isn't out there install Alexa devices on public property or in your home against your will.

People are installing these things freely.

Blogger Balam May 07, 2019 2:09 PM  

basementhomebrewer wrote:Amazing how cheaply people give up their privacy. It was obvious that these were listening devices in your home from day 1.

What is the trade off?


It's just a survey but here:
https://venturebeat.com/2018/11/17/heres-what-people-are-really-doing-with-their-alexa-and-google-home-assistants/
"Approximately 75 percent of respondents use the device to listen to music, 66 percent check the weather, and 63 percent ask for information.

Approximately 58 percent of the those who listen to music do so multiple times a day, whereas only 34 percent of those checking the weather do so multiple times a day.

On the lower end of usage, only 23 percent of respondents use their devices for controlling home automation. However, those who do, do so quite frequently. Nearly 63 percent of respondents who use the device for home automation do so multiple times a day, and another 22 percent do so at least once a day."

People are just offloading searching for music, looking up the weather, and then asking stuff like how to boil and egg or whatever.

This reminds me that Vox said, for him, reading is a much faster way of processing information than video/audio. But he was compelled to go to video because that's all people do now. People are now doing even their information searching with audio instead of with text - in the old days you'd encyclopedia, then came the time you'd google search, and now there are people Alexa verbal searching.

Are people verbal-searching because they're too dumb or unskilled to use text, or are they just going along with the form of content they're used to? There's also the 'multitasking' idea, where people have responded to Vox that listening to an audiobook 'saves time' because they do it while doing other tasks. I think it's that people who use Alexa lack basic life skills and are trained to defer to authority when they reach conflict (needing repairs, knowing the seasons, cooking) rather than knowing how to do it themselves. That mentality doesn't value privacy at all.

Blogger RedJack May 07, 2019 2:32 PM  

We have ours in our bathroom.

I turn it on when I do a particually awesome tune.

IF they are going to listen to me, I am going to make their quality of life suck

Blogger Robert What? May 07, 2019 2:43 PM  

"Just what do you think you're thinking, Dave?"

Blogger Pseudotsuga May 07, 2019 2:43 PM  

There sure is a trend among "woke techies" to have smart stuff in their homes, so they don't have to actually GET UP to turn off lights, start the laundry, see who's at the door, etc.
They need to heed the warnings of the Potterverse:
"Ginny!" said Mr. Weasley, flabbergasted. "Haven't I taught you anything? What have I always told you? Never trust anything that can think for itself if you can't see where it keeps its brain?" ― J.K. Rowling, Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets

Even a broken leftist clock such as Rowling can be correct some of the time...

Blogger Hunsdon May 07, 2019 2:44 PM  

I'm not all that smart, but I knew when they started slicing and dicing debt to monetize it, that someone would end up holding the bag. And similarly, when they introduced Siri et al. I smelled a skunk.

Blogger Zwiebel May 07, 2019 2:48 PM  

Son: Dad, why are you always speaking so softly when we're in the house?
Dad: I'm afraid of the NSA listening.
My son laughed, I laughed, Alexa laughed...

Blogger CM May 07, 2019 2:50 PM  

No, the future they're aiming for is one where you starve to death as a bum because you didn't demonstrate your loyalty to them by letting them chip you. Say, in the right hand or forehead.

Mark of the Beast seems to be showing some form now. All it needs is enough consensus on the right issue for it to be enacted and then you can slip down the slope to all the rest.

I'm think vaccinations is a near universal enough issue to build consensus.

Blogger DonReynolds May 07, 2019 2:52 PM  

Sam wrote:@20

The first US secret police were the American Protective League, a private organization.


I would have considered the Pinkerton Detective Agency to be the first, since their protective function was taken over by the Secret Service. Yes, it was a private contractor that sold their services to law enforcement and corporations.

The APL were citizen volunteers during wartime and primarily focused on foreign spies, subversion and sabotage, which was later taken over by the FBI.

Interesting that the same US Attorney General who disbanded them soon after the end of WWI, as a grave hazard to the community, was the same who shifted the emphasis from German spies to communists, anarchists, and labor organizers in the 1920s. Today, they would be called "drug traffic informants".

Blogger CM May 07, 2019 3:01 PM  

I don't understand why this is surprising. Any device that is connected to the internet and has sensors (audio, visual, etc.) has the capacity to data log your activities and to pass that data to whomever can access that device. That's why I would never have a product like Alexa in my home. Nor will I go for kitchen "smart" appliances that use internet connectivity either.

I'm thinking tech fasts and homestead fasts are going to need to be a practiced discipline to avoid being dependent on The World.

Blogger Silent Draco May 07, 2019 3:11 PM  

wasatchmo, there is an off setting. I recommend a 6 lb sledgehammer - one good hit and it stays off.

Blogger Latigo3 May 07, 2019 3:15 PM  

The Bambino had his called shot, but John had him beat by about 1900 years.

"And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: 17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name."

Blogger Azure Amaranthine May 07, 2019 3:18 PM  

There really is no winning when someone's identity is compromised by choices that can't be undone.

Fortunately you can still morally swear off of invasive espionage devices, unlike family members.

Blogger 357Delta May 07, 2019 3:47 PM  

If you own and use a smart phone you have already given up most of your privacy. They track your location even if the GPS is "off" by cell tower just to start with. You think your keyboard isn't logging for a customer improvement program?

Ask anyone in intelligence if they speak about anything classified if there's a cell phone in the room.

Before you start patting yourself on the back for not using Alexa about the weather, remember if you carried and used your phone last weekend Google or Apple know and kept where you went, how long it took you to get there and by what route, who you were likely with if you text or called, they or other big tech definitely know who were with if you or someone else took pictures. Your internet provider also knows all of the sites you visit unless you used proxies and can legally sell the information in the US.

Blogger weka May 07, 2019 4:01 PM  

As predicted. They wnt us markes for their beast, and like Oprah, to wroship their narrative.

Blogger Blaidd May 07, 2019 4:01 PM  

after it hears its name
Which is to say it's always listening.

I don't understand why this is surprising.
Most people are idiots.

Blogger cheddarman May 07, 2019 4:29 PM  

Don't buy your shit from Amazon

Blogger One Deplorable DT May 07, 2019 4:30 PM  

Two thoughts come to mind.

One: I recently read on Hacker News that the U.S. Navy has completed transitioning a software suite written in COBOL and running on old mainframes to Java running on Amazon Web Services. One of the claimed benefits was greater security.

What does this have to do with Alexa in your home? Just the connection that no one, and I mean absolutely no one in the entire blasted industry has the faintest clue about security. If there's a microphone in your home it can turn on. If your personal information is on a server it can be accessed. If your software is running on a virtual machine it can be compromised and read by other virtual machines running in the cloud. A cloud that is maintained with masses of foreign workers who have foreign loyalties.

You would think the USN would understand something about surface area of attack. But then maybe one of the strong empowered little girls navigating our ships into tankers was put in charge of this decision.

Second: the IT industry is building the beast of Revelation. If not the very beast himself, then the apparatus which will be used to mark and enslave every person. And they're doing it while bragging about paradigm shifts and a glorious future on their monitored blogs.

At this point a Carrington Event would be a mercy from God.

Blogger One Deplorable DT May 07, 2019 4:40 PM  

@41 - Mark of the Beast seems to be showing some form now. All it needs is enough consensus on the right issue for it to be enacted and then you can slip down the slope to all the rest.

Naturally I can't find the link right now, but I remember reading a policy paper written in England on the topic of how to deal with global warming. This was produced by the government, not by some private organization. The recommendation was that every citizen should have a card which tracked their carbon credits. Every product and service would have a carbon price associated with it. When buying anything you would have to consider both the economic cost and the carbon cost. And the paper was explicit that if you ran out of carbon credits you would be unable to transact business until the following month when new credits were deposited.

It was utterly and completely evil. And it provided a very plausible model for how the mark of the beast could be implemented and why it might be implemented. The only missing piece was the paragraph stating that body chips would be preferable to debit cards. Just convince enough people that the world is going to end in 12 years if we don't do something right now, that "something" being the authoritarian hell imagined by the wicked.

Blogger James Dixon May 07, 2019 4:46 PM  

> The company store was a well documented phenomenon when she wrote her book.

There's actually a catalog and website now called The Company Store (https://www.thecompanystore.com/). I just shake my head.

> I would have considered the Pinkerton Detective Agency to be the first...

I would agree.

Blogger OneWingedShark May 07, 2019 4:50 PM  

Balam wrote:Are people verbal-searching because they're too dumb or unskilled to use text, or are they just going along with the form of content they're used to?
It's probably a matter of several combined things: (1) the perceived convenience, (2) the combined resource [as opposed to Atlas + Encyclopedia + Dictionary + Weather-service], and (3) the general degradation of written material quality.

On point #3, consider software documentation. I have copies of a few old manuals (Turbo Pascal 3.3, WordPerfect, etc) and they are much better than an embarrassingly large number of "modern" online help-systems. While this might be an apples to squid comparison, the same holds true to online documentation/references: Borland's Delphi 5 Windows Help-based references were much quicker and also easier to use than the Visual Studio-style web-/internet-based help system that came along [IIRC] circa RAD Studio 2007.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd May 07, 2019 5:31 PM  

dh wrote:The question is: what right can I sub-ordinate to a 3rd party via implied contract law.

People are installing these things freely.


This is stupid and wrong. These are contracts of adhesion, and the party with more power is obfuscating and lying.

Blogger Nate May 07, 2019 5:33 PM  

few things are as amusing as someone carrying around an android phone complaining about alexa.

Blogger Nate May 07, 2019 5:35 PM  

"This is stupid and wrong. The question is: what right can I sub-ordinate to a 3rd party via implied contract law.

Amazon isn't out there install Alexa devices on public property or in your home against your will.

People are installing these things freely."

ding ding ding

voice controlled computers are a thing people. get over it.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash May 07, 2019 6:28 PM  

Nate wrote:few things are as amusing as someone carrying around an android phone complaining about alexa.
Keep telling yourself that, Nate.

Blogger HouellebecqGurl May 07, 2019 6:35 PM  

Some years back, (2013? 2015?), a pic of Zuckerberg using his laptop appeared. In the photo, he had the camera covered & a pair of cutoff earbuds in the audio jack.
That said to me, if he thinks this is necessary, then it is. I have followed his example meticulously. I cover the camera on my phone as well as the mic.
I don't watch TV, despite having several in my house, so those are kept unplugged.
If I want to read or listen to more "radical," info, I use Tor. Dm'ing is done thru Ricochet.
Does this solve the access issues? NO.
But, it helps.

Blogger Poster Child May 07, 2019 6:47 PM  

Before: "I'm afraid my phone might be wiretapped"
Now: "Hey WireTap, what's the recipe for blueberry waffles?"

Blogger Unknownsailor May 07, 2019 6:54 PM  

The latest generation of Kindle Fire tablets have Alexa installed them, and you can't uninstall it, it is part of the base OS install.
I have one I got from credit card reward points, and used it for a while, but after doing some Android development in college, I can't really trust it to not be on without my consent, so it sits in a box, turned off, in a closet.
No way in hell do one of the speakers ever come into my house. I have read 1984, no way to I bring the audio component of a telescreen anywhere near me.
-Unknownsailor-

Blogger Dave Dave May 07, 2019 6:57 PM  

Smart TVs are spy bots when you have voice activation enabled. All smart phones are spybots. "Smart" devices can be considered smart because they have somehow worked their way into the hands of most people in the first world and are extracting data from them to sell to companies without causing any public outrage or legal mess. The modern man has been beaten by faceless corporations, spy bots, and advertisement. When do we consider this as technological warfare?

Blogger weka May 07, 2019 7:01 PM  

The pine64 linux based pbones cannot come fast enough

Blogger James Dixon May 07, 2019 7:08 PM  

> few things are as amusing as someone carrying around an android phone complaining about alexa.

My Android phone is something like Kit Kat, and is too underpowered to support voice recognition. I'm not sure what I'll do when it's time to upgrade, but there are already a bunch of apps mine won't run.

Blogger James Dixon May 07, 2019 7:10 PM  

> voice controlled computers are a thing people. get over it.

I have absolutely nothing against voice controlled computers. I have something against it being recorded by Amazon.

Blogger Lauri Stark May 07, 2019 7:12 PM  

OT: A polish human rights activist has been arrested for blasphemy.

Freedom of speech is a lie. We can only choose between two kinds of blasphemy laws: either christian or wordly. This is how you fight the cultural war.

No mercy.

Blogger Lauri Stark May 07, 2019 7:12 PM  

And also: deus vult.

Blogger Nate May 07, 2019 7:23 PM  

can Alexa provide your location data... even when you take it off line? no. but you android phone does. and unlike Alexa the phone listens all the time.

Blogger Jamie-R May 07, 2019 8:32 PM  

*ahem*

voice controlled computers are a thing people. get over it.

Welcome to the Black Summer of Prime.
Join us.

Blogger Doktor Jeep May 07, 2019 8:45 PM  

If people are going to keep crap like that in their presence then they deserve to be slaves.

Blogger James Dixon May 07, 2019 9:20 PM  

> The latest generation of Kindle Fire tablets have Alexa installed them, and you can't uninstall it, it is part of the base OS install.

Yes, but "supposedly" it's not listening unless you hold down the center button to activate it.

> can Alexa provide your location data

The Alexa for the Kindle Fire can.

Blogger Noah B. May 07, 2019 9:37 PM  

Ring cameras are worse. They give Amazon an enormous amount of information about what happens in neighborhoods, and if your neighbor decides to put one up there's not much you can do about it. Assuming you even know they have one.

Blogger Akuma May 07, 2019 9:44 PM  

Alexa is racist too. She loves the word honkey, but refuses to say nigger, negro, chink, or spic.

Blogger Saint May 07, 2019 10:08 PM  

People have been warning us for years that everything connected to the internet is spying on us for the alphabet agencies.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine May 07, 2019 10:26 PM  

"few things are as amusing as someone carrying around an android phone complaining about alexa."

I don't do either. You have Alexa in your house.

Blogger Mr Smith May 07, 2019 10:26 PM  

Maybe time for that Butlerian Jihad.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine May 07, 2019 10:29 PM  

"and unlike Alexa the phone listens all the time."

Let's just clear this up. If it's able to listen for an activation word, your Alexa is both listening and processing audio information at all times.

Blogger DonReynolds May 08, 2019 3:17 AM  

Sam wrote:@20

The first US secret police were the American Protective League, a private organization.


Some people here might enjoy a true story about my good friend Chester, who retired from the FBI. I knew he did not have a CPA or law degree, so one day I asked him how he got into the FBI without either. He said..."Pearl Harbor". So what the devil does that mean? He said...the day after Pearl Harbor, while everyone else was standing in line enlisting in the military, he ran to the FBI field office in New Orleans. They hired him on the spot, handed him a .45 auto, web belt, and holster, then told him to go guard the warf where all the ships were parked. He did that for a few weeks until they moved him to other duties. He was with the FBI for 30 years and retired.

During wartime, people get in a hurry and a lot of normal procedures get chucked, including constitutional liberties on occasion. Sometimes, there is a reckoning later, but usually not. All part of the fog of war.

Blogger Steve Samson May 08, 2019 3:40 AM  

I'm in the UK and am watching the replay now.

Blogger The Cooler May 08, 2019 6:52 AM  

Burner phones, y'all.

Get an RV Mail address and establish it as your legal residence, too.

Become Waldo. Time's now.

Blogger Tars Tarkas May 08, 2019 2:43 PM  

Lauri Stark wrote:OT: A polish human rights activist has been arrested for blasphemy.

It's about friggin time! Blaspheme the Virgin Mary, go to prison.
Next, they need to arrest everyone involved in teaching homosexuality and other abominations to school children. Go Poland!

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