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Friday, June 14, 2019

A statistical observation

Item: Of 127,000 Japanese Americans living in the continental United States at the time of the Pearl Harbor attack, 112,000 resided on the West Coast. About 80,000 were Nisei (literal translation: "second generation"; American-born Japanese with U.S. citizenship) and Sansei ("third generation"; the children of Nisei). The rest were Issei ("first generation") immigrants born in Japan who were ineligible for U.S. citizenship under U.S. law.

Item: According to the 2000 US Census, there were 385,488 Americans of Iranian ancestry at that time.In the 2011 ACS, the number of Americans of full or partial Iranian ancestry amounted c. 470,341... most experts believe that the underrepresented number of Iranian Americans in the ACS is a problem due to the fact that "many community members have been reluctant in identifying themselves as such because of the problems between Iran and the United States in the past two decades." Higher estimations of 1,000,000 and higher are given by many Iranian and non-Iranian organisations, media and scholars. The Atlantic stated that there are an estimated 1,500,000 Iranians in the United States in 2012. The Iranian interest section in Washington D.C. claimed to hold passport information for approximately 900,000 Iranians in the US in 2003.

Translation: there are at least 10x more Iranians in the USA now than there were Japanese in the USA during WWII. This is only one of the many reasons that the war with Iran sought by the neocons would be extraordinarily foolish. Not quite "invade Russia in winter" suicidal, but almost certainly "Sicilian Expedition" stupid.

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78 Comments:

Blogger JACIII June 14, 2019 2:09 PM  

So, the Japanese only PLANNED to invade. The Iraqis DID.

Blogger Mr. B.A.D. June 14, 2019 2:11 PM  

If they played hopscotch through the Pacific stealing resources along the way they could have totally made land fall in Alaska and taken over the west coast

Blogger Salt June 14, 2019 2:11 PM  

But what about Iranian troop transport capabilities?

Blogger Giraffe June 14, 2019 2:13 PM  

Has anyone asked Michelle Malkin what she thinks about this?

Blogger Mr. B.A.D. June 14, 2019 2:13 PM  

Do we know how much steel Iran has for aircraft carriers?

Blogger Difster June 14, 2019 2:13 PM  

What does Meso Michelle have to say about this?

Blogger Clint June 14, 2019 2:16 PM  

The Japanese targeted California and Oregon. Will the Iranians target South Carolina and Georgia?

Blogger Giraffe June 14, 2019 2:18 PM  

Instead of building interment camps, lets just build a wall around LA and put them in there.

Blogger Giraffe June 14, 2019 2:21 PM  

A few more nukes, maybe we could have prevented Babymetal.

Blogger Clint June 14, 2019 2:22 PM  

@2, well, the Japanese had the ALeutians, but the Iranians won't have such a favorable situation.

Blogger Clint June 14, 2019 2:23 PM  

Then again, Iran has their own oil, so they have that going for them.

Blogger Salt June 14, 2019 2:24 PM  

I wonder what Chuck(le) would say about this?

Blogger binks webelf June 14, 2019 2:31 PM  

SMH.. Nucking futs. Apparently Iran was behind 911:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7138217/Lawmakers-say-Pompeo-told-Trump-attack-Iran-using-2011-congressional-ahead-against-Iraq.html
Lawmakers from both sides reveal in late-night session that Mike Pompeo told them Trump CAN attack Iran – because Congress never withdrew Bush's post-9/11 military permission to enter Afghanistan and Iraq

Blogger Mr. B.A.D. June 14, 2019 2:31 PM  

What's the IQ breakdown for a successful Westcoast invasion? Asking for a friend...

Blogger Snidely Whiplash June 14, 2019 2:33 PM  

I didn't think there was any meat left on that dead horse.

Blogger Clay June 14, 2019 2:35 PM  

I suppose the Japanese are a true ally of the US today. But, I still can't, and won't forgive them of the atrocities they committed in WWII. Especially, against our fighting men. Their conversion from "destroyers" to make them "Carriers" for the F-35's, makes me love them for my stocks in Raytheon and Lockheed.

Blogger D Zniger June 14, 2019 2:36 PM  

Interesting thought. The US still went to war with Germany and the number of people with german background had to be higher than anything the Persians can show nowadays.
Still an interesting argument and it would have a much higher impact with a possible war against China I imagine.The more people the US swallows from around the world, the harder it is to go to war.

Blogger Giraffe June 14, 2019 2:37 PM  

Who knows what the Japs could have done in WW2 if the Tone had gotten her float plane off on schedule at Midway.

Blogger Mr. B.A.D. June 14, 2019 2:38 PM  

NOT ALL ETHNIC ENEMIES ARE EQUAL!

Blogger Daniel Heneghan June 14, 2019 2:38 PM  

OT: Pizza, pedophilia, perversion, faggotry. Just keeps rearing it's ugly hydra head.

https://www.phillymag.com/news/2018/06/01/al-vernacchio-friends-central-school-sex-education/

Blogger Salt June 14, 2019 2:39 PM  

Snidely Whiplash wrote:I didn't think there was any meat left on that dead horse.

Boiling the bones. Making soup.

Blogger Daniel June 14, 2019 2:39 PM  

Me-So would have started her own band: A Flock of Flee-gals

"...and Iran, Iran so far away..."

Blogger Balkan Yankee June 14, 2019 2:39 PM  

Some of those Iranians in the U.S. would be more than happy to see the neocons prevail.

https://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2019/03/08/Iranian-Americans-call-for-Tehran-regime-change-in-DC-protest/1231552081103/

Blogger Difster June 14, 2019 2:40 PM  

Imagine all the convenience stores and gas stations that would shut down if we rounded up the Iranians.

Blogger Mr. B.A.D. June 14, 2019 2:41 PM  

Iranian > aryan > mind blown

Blogger George Phillies June 14, 2019 2:41 PM  

The Japanese Americans were loyal. The mostly-Japanese Regimental Combat Team was one of the most-decorated units in World War 2. I am reminded of World War 1. My late father, who was alive during that war, claimed to recall the reported conversation between President Wilson and the German Ambassador, as war approached, in which the Ambassador noted that there were 13 million German-Americans who would sabotage any American effort to make war on Germany. To this, Wilson responded that there might very well be 13 million German-Americans, but there were also in America 13 million lampposts, 13 million pieces of rope, and 130 million Americans to pull on the far ends of those pieces of rope, so there would be no such sabotage. Wilson was right. To good if imperfect approximation, there was no such sabotage.

Blogger Clint June 14, 2019 2:44 PM  

D Zniger wrote:Interesting thought. The US still went to war with Germany and the number of people with german background had to be higher than anything the Persians can show nowadays.

Still an interesting argument and it would have a much higher impact with a possible war against China I imagine.The more people the US swallows from around the world, the harder it is to go to war.


The Nazis called for the Volksdeutsche to return and fight from home (Germany). Their primary objective was toward the East. Most Americans of German heritage, who had been here for a few generations, were more assimilated.

Blogger xevious2030 June 14, 2019 2:46 PM  

Please tell me the commenters are pulling a Ken Prescott…
Or is it Saturday?

Blogger Skyler the Weird June 14, 2019 2:50 PM  

More like let's punish Serbia for what these Bosnian terrorists did stupid.

It's not like the Empire will break up or anything.

Blogger buwaya June 14, 2019 3:04 PM  

Part of the reason that Japanese were interned was because of the behavior of Japanese persons in South East Asia, especially in the Philippines, from Dec 1941-July 1942. In the Philippines there were a very large number of Japanese and Philippine citizens of Japanese origins. The city of Davao was effectively a Japanese colony. A large number of prominent citizens employed Japanese servants, gardeners, drivers, factotums, accountants, photographers, etc.

After the Japanese invasion a large number of these were revealed as having been intelligence agents or reservists, who would serve in the occupying forces.

Every personal account from the war years has some such story, along the lines of how the big shots Japanese driver pays a visit to his old boss, wearing a naval officers uniform. Enrique Zobel wrote - "Ito was my grandfather’s Japanese gardener. He used to own the mongo and maiz con hielo stand in front of the Gaiety. I remember he also sold toys and halo-halo. Poor Ito, he had to pick up after us at night. ... We found out years later that he was a naval intelligence officer."

Blogger Uncle John's Band June 14, 2019 3:16 PM  

"Some of those Iranians in the U.S. would be more than happy to see the neocons prevail."

Neocon war dancing draws ethnic grifters like boomers to a black "conservative". See: Iraq.

Blogger Cluebat June 14, 2019 3:21 PM  

I think it is important to point out that most of these people are no friends of the mullahs. Many came here when the Shah was deposed. A whole family was murdered down the street from me while I was in HS.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash June 14, 2019 3:22 PM  

George Phillies wrote:The Japanese Americans were loyal. The mostly-Japanese Regimental Combat Team was one of the most-decorated units in World War 2.
No serious person has ever questioned the courage and discipline of the Japanese. It's their loyalty that was the question.

Blogger Daniel June 14, 2019 3:25 PM  

The ride may be a bit inert on a dead horse, but it never ends.

Blogger Aquila Aquilonis June 14, 2019 3:25 PM  

Did someone say invasion fleet?

Blogger xevious2030 June 14, 2019 3:56 PM  

Ah, dead horse. I'll go stick my nose in a corner a while for being dumb.

Blogger Christian Schulzke June 14, 2019 4:00 PM  

I remember in John Hackett's The Third World War, a key weakness of the Soviets is the ethnic diversity and attendant nationalism of the Satellite Countries. That this would ultimately prove to be the undoing of the Soviet System was considered a powerful argument....then. Now, well, "Diversity is a war fighting goal!"

Blogger Avalanche June 14, 2019 4:11 PM  

@17 "The more people the US swallows from around the world, the harder it is to go to war."

hmmmm, I think maybe you've gotten it wrong... The more foreigners in the U.S., the harder it will for ACTUAL Americans to prevent the foreigners in our govt TAKING us to war! And, no doubt, the more the war will spill over into American streets!

Blogger allyn71 June 14, 2019 4:19 PM  

So your saying the Persians have already invaded. What is Iran's ability to supply this army? Maybe we should intern them in the FEMA camps just to be safe, kept the Japs from invading last time.

Blogger JonM June 14, 2019 4:24 PM  

@33: Shooting at round-eyes in the muddy fields of France is one thing. Shooting at a guy that looks like your cousin on the sunny tropical shores a few hundred miles from the Old Country is a completely different kettle of fish.

Hell, an honest look at how successful German-Americans were at sabotaging shipping on the East Coast leads to the conclusion that we would have been better off sending all the troops of Germanic-American descent east to play a little Pacific Island Hopscotch.

Blogger Clay June 14, 2019 4:25 PM  

Ya know, I see these commercials all of the time, which say "These People Urgently Need Your Help" It purports Jews in Russia...holocaust survivors, it says.

So. I just called them. Asked the girl why the US gives them billions of dollars every year, why they are trying to milk more dollars from us. Do they broadcast these commercials to other countries?

She says, "I don't know. I'm in Idaho".

'Nuff said.

Blogger NateM June 14, 2019 4:32 PM  

So is denying the threat of Japan More ridiculous than denying bwe landed on the moon?

Blogger Clint June 14, 2019 4:40 PM  

What threat? What moon landing?

Blogger Balam June 14, 2019 5:14 PM  

Cluebat wrote:I think it is important to point out that most of these people are no friends of the mullahs. Many came here when the Shah was deposed. A whole family was murdered down the street from me while I was in HS.

What you said makes sense. I would also want to think that. However look at how Mexicans who fled the cartels and general low society vote once they arrive. They vote to turn it into Mexico and enable the cartels to operate. Look at how Blacks who got freed from democrat slavery vote; to turn themselves into (welfare) slaves at the astonishing rate of 90% dem votes. I don't see why other ethnicities would be different.

Blogger VD June 14, 2019 5:30 PM  

The Japanese Americans were loyal. The mostly-Japanese Regimental Combat Team was one of the most-decorated units in World War 2.

You will note that they were sent to Europe. If they had been entirely trustworthy, they would have been of more use on the Pacific front.

Blogger Chief_Tuscaloosa June 14, 2019 5:36 PM  

Next week's National Review cover story: "Iranian-Americans Believe in the Constitution So More Immigration from Iran needed--Yet the Country of Iran has Oil and Undermines the USD, so Invasion Is Needed Now!"

Blogger Don't Call Me Len June 14, 2019 5:40 PM  

Some of those Iranians in the U.S. would be more than happy to see the neocons prevail.

Lining up at the recruiting offices, are they? Or are they more interested in the Saudi "There's plenty of young American boys, let them do the dying!" approach?

Blogger Clay June 14, 2019 5:42 PM  

Wow. I'm surprised to see you post that, VD, being the Japophile as you seem to be. Interesting.

Blogger Fargoth June 14, 2019 6:43 PM  

Oh war'll be fine, man.

Blogger One Deplorable DT June 14, 2019 6:46 PM  

@13 - Lawmakers from both sides reveal in late-night session that Mike Pompeo told them Trump CAN attack Iran – because Congress never withdrew Bush's post-9/11 military permission to enter Afghanistan and Iraq

Does this mean Trump can invade California? Because the situation at the California/Mexico border is a far greater threat to the survival of the U.S. than any threat in the middle east.

Well...almost (((any))) threat.

Blogger SirHamster June 14, 2019 7:36 PM  

Clay wrote:Wow. I'm surprised to see you post that, VD, being the Japophile as you seem to be. Interesting.

What does Vox's personal affinities have to do with the objective facts of how Japanese American troops were used?

Blogger Rhys June 14, 2019 7:41 PM  

Chief_Tuscaloosa wrote:Next week's National Review cover story: "Iranian-Americans Believe in the Constitution So More Immigration from Iran needed--Yet the Country of Iran has Oil and Undermines the USD, so Invasion Is Needed Now!"

These two things aren't as contradictory as they appear. They use the byproduct of one to fuel the other.

Blogger Azimus June 14, 2019 7:44 PM  

The patient Persian is far less a 5th column threat than the wild Arab.

Blogger xevious2030 June 14, 2019 8:03 PM  

Threatening a stupid war with Iran. And the invasion of the US, poof, out of mind, or so it would usually go.

Blogger Brett baker June 14, 2019 8:30 PM  

Die, heretic!

Blogger doctrev June 14, 2019 8:51 PM  

Is anyone "entirely" trustworthy? I wouldn't trust an Alabama sergeant to occupy his hometown, even if I was aware he shared all of my political leanings to the letter. Sending an ethnic Japanese to the Pacific has a larger maximum reward, yes, but at a larger risk that can be avoided by sending him to Europe. Besides- when such men are obviously more patriotic than the Roosevelt government that interned their fellow Americans, who would you trust more with the future of the nation? Because the historical answer of "the elected government" hasn't worked out well for Americans.

Blogger damaris.tighe June 14, 2019 9:00 PM  

OT On Rhetoric.

Is 'diversityisour' good rhetoric?

"European diaspora" ? , "native"/"foreigner" ?

Blogger Lazarus June 14, 2019 9:46 PM  

The Japs sent incendiary balloons across the pacific to cause wildfires in the west coast.


Infogalatic:
A fire balloon (風船爆弾 fūsen bakudan?, lit. "balloon bomb"), or Fu-Go (ふ号[兵器] fugō [heiki]?, lit. "Code Fu [Weapon]"), was a weapon launched by Japan during World War II. A hydrogen balloon with a load varying from a 15 kg (33 lb) antipersonnel bomb to one 12-kilogram (26 lb) incendiary bomb and four 5 kg (11 lb) incendiary devices attached, it was designed as a cheap weapon intended to make use of the jet stream over the Pacific Ocean and drop bombs on American and Canadian cities, forests, and farmland.[1][2]

The Iranians can't do that because the Jet stream does not work that way for them.

They should be interned anyway, just in case.

And all their property confiscated.

And the proceeds put in the public treasury to fight climate change.

Blogger Clay June 14, 2019 10:07 PM  


Clay wrote:
Wow. I'm surprised to see you post that, VD, being the Japophile as you seem to be. Interesting.


What does Vox's personal affinities have to do with the objective facts of how Japanese American troops were used?

Oh, go away, SirHampster. I've been commenting on Vox's blog, since you were maybe born. He knows what I meant.

Blogger Terrekain June 14, 2019 10:37 PM  

George Phillies
That Japanese 442 Regiment were traitorous. Aside form the fact that the majority of the Japanese-American adult populace woke up every morning and observed the Banzai salute to the West in the direction of their "God" (the Japanese emperor) in lieu of their "patriotic clubs" (HINT: These were patriot community centers for Japan, NOT America) -

- the Japanese community and regiment DEMANDED THAT THEY NOT BE USED AGAINST THEIR "HOMELAND".

HINT: Their "homeland" was not America.

The Japanese were caught at the beginning of the war aiding the Japanese Empire - from killing Americans and helping Japanese soldiers to spying on American ship movements and relaying targeting data to the Empire. And the only reason they didn't help the Empire more was because they never got anymore opportunities. Uncle Sam relocated them away from Hawaii and the West Coast.

So why was the 442nd Japanese regiment "the most decorated unit in WW2"?

Answer: Their awards are phony.

The 442nd stands as the most gargantuan standard of STOLEN VALOR in the history of the United States.

Fleischer and his Japanese movie cohorts (who invented the movie Big Lie that is Tora, Tora, Tora) wanted to make a movie of the 442nd, but even he couldn't reconcile making a movie of "heroes" who participated in "combat" that involved no combat deaths or achievements.

The 442nd Japanese-heroes fable is similar to the Tuskegee Black-heroes fable

Ask yourself how in the world the 442nd is considered more "decorated" despite having no combat record - and a resultant casualty ratios - approaching the Tuskegee, let alone those of any of the vaunted units in the US Army, Navy and Marines.

The 442nd are a fraud - were always regarded as frauds - even by those who would try to herald them but were to embarrassed by the transparency of the fraud.

Their disgraced name has no place anywhere near the 82nd and 101st Airborne, the 1st Marine Division, and the USS Enterprise, etc.

Blogger MichaelJMaier June 14, 2019 11:18 PM  

VD wrote:The Japanese Americans were loyal. The mostly-Japanese Regimental Combat Team was one of the most-decorated units in World War 2.

You will note that they were sent to Europe. If they had been entirely trustworthy, they would have been of more use on the Pacific front.


And on this very blog, Vox shared how "Americans" of Jap descent betrayed the US and hid documents from a Jap pilot that landed on Hawaii.

Blogger Brick Hardslab June 14, 2019 11:18 PM  

Wakanda will be in our side. I saw the Amazon legion at West point.

Blogger tublecane June 15, 2019 1:28 AM  

@26- Notice the figures provided above. Nearly 90% of Japanese in the U.S. were on the West Coast. Presumably, German-Americans in 1914 were fairly well spread out. Sabotage to them would mean what? Stirring up draft riots? Tearing up rail ties? Organizing strikes in war industry? All the Japanese in 1941 needed to do was observe naval yards and radio out intelligence. Not something that lynch mobs are generally competent to counteract.

Moreover, looking again at the figures, approaching two-thirds of the Japanese were second-generation. German -Americans started coming en masse in the 1820s. So it's really not the same problem.

Blogger boogeyman June 15, 2019 2:47 AM  

Stupid has never been a obstacle when it comes to government or military action. In fact, it often seems to be an inducement.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash June 15, 2019 3:20 AM  

doctrev wrote:Besides- when such men are obviously more patriotic than the Roosevelt government that interned their fellow Americans, who would you trust more with the future of the nation?
No, the Roosevelt administration interred Japanese, not Americans.

Blogger steb June 15, 2019 4:29 AM  

the war with Iran sought by the neocons would be extraordinarily foolish.

That depends on their objectives.

The attack on Iran could be won long before any Iranian-American resistance movement could get started. It might make long-term occupation difficult but all that could be left to UN peacekeepers if they agreed to stop Iran from rebuilding their military.

If the neo-cons want to turn the US military into a weapon against their enemies in the muslim world, and it certainly seems like they do, then inciting an Iranian expat rebellion in the USA itself might seem like a good idea too, as long as they were the ones in charge of putting it down. It would hardly be the first 'spontaneous muslim uprising' they've championed.

I also wonder about all the crazy talk you hear from the mainstream right about the Islamic takeover of the USA. Maybe they think that provoking a civil war against a relatively smaller and less popular minority would help unify the other American ethnicities together.

Again, it wouldn't be the first time.

Blogger doctrev June 15, 2019 4:47 AM  

Snidely Whiplash wrote:
No, the Roosevelt administration interred Japanese, not Americans.

I know the argument against the Nisei being truly American, but the whole point of banning Paper American citizens in concentration camps was that a suitably evil government would quickly put -you- in one of those camps. Yes, we have an evil law enforcement that will do that regardless, but that case law, which began with Korematsu, is one of the many you need to establish legitimacy for your cause and your state. Without that legitimacy, white nationalism is going to remain behind the curve against Trump's version of nationalism in the popular culture.

But interning the Nisei was one of Roosevelt's lesser treasons against America. Hopefully I don't have to explain why his government was far worse for America and Americans than the entire population of American Nisei. Yes, the patriotism of the foreigner shouldn't be assumed, but an untested foreigner is still better than an open traitor working against your people. That is a theoretical argument- untested foreigners in American can either help the American nation get rid of its enemies, or start packing for less hostile climates.

Blogger Pierre June 15, 2019 5:15 AM  

steb wrote:Maybe they think that provoking a civil war against a relatively smaller and less popular minority would help unify the other American ethnicities together.

They're neocons. Try thinking like a psychopath.

If war with Iran causes terror attacks in the US, that's a great pretext for a massive power grab, patriot act 2.0, more surveillance, etc.

Blogger bdoran June 15, 2019 7:18 AM  

This has been historically the case.
From the beginning.
Certainly the last 100 years.

Blogger Brick Hardslab June 15, 2019 10:06 AM  

How many dead horses are hitched to this wagon?

Blogger George Phillies June 15, 2019 10:18 AM  

Readers will note that a perfectly adequate number of Japanese Americans served in the Pacific theater, with military intelligence, as translators. The 4000-man 442nd RCT went through 14,000 men due to casualties. How would German-Americans of WW1 sabotage? See Black Tom explosion, that being German Imperial military intelligence.

Blogger ace June 15, 2019 10:20 AM  

"The toritsuginin* had long been a Hawaiian institution, first established to handle personal affairs for the many Japanese immigrants who lacked the education to fend for themselves in a strange land. Their duties were routine, and only in rare cases did they receive pay from the consulate. Nevertheless, virtually every one "engaged in a number of pro-Japanese activities in addition to his duties as a toritsuginin."

*One of the Japanese readers of this manuscript claimed the word toristuginin has no meaning in Japanese, yet the term crops up consistently in the Pearl Harbor documents in connection with the Honolulu consulate.""

-Gordon W. Prange, At Dawn We Slept

There were 234 of these guys in Hawaii. A Japanese reader feeds Prange a line and he swallows it whole. Somehow a guy who researched Pearl Harbor down to the last minute can't bring himself to utter the word 'spy' or even 'informant.'

Toritsuginin (取次人) means 'agency man.'

Blogger Snidely Whiplash June 15, 2019 11:34 AM  

steb wrote:The attack on Iran could be won long before any Iranian-American resistance movement could get started. It might make long-term occupation difficult but all that could be left to UN peacekeepers if they agreed to stop Iran from rebuilding their military.
Never learn, that's the ticket! This is exactly what clowns like you said back in 2002 in regard to Iraq.
Honk honk!

doctrev wrote:But interning the Nisei was one of Roosevelt's lesser treasons against America. Hopefully I don't have to explain why his government was far worse for America and Americans than the entire population of American Nisei.
No, you are conflating the US empire and America. America is a nation The US is a state, at one time populated by and serving the interests of Americans. Like all empires, it eventually stopped doing so and began import compliant clients from conquered territories, and like happens eventually to all empires, was run from 1988 to 2016 by and for the interests of non-Americans. Democrats are openly declaring they will never nominate another American, and GOP openly sports wood whenever a person of even mildly tan complexion expresses support.
Trump is our last chance because he may well be the last American Emperor.
Even 5th generation Japanese are Japanese, not American.

Blogger Matrick June 15, 2019 12:28 PM  

Terrakain said: "Ask yourself how in the world the 442nd is considered more "decorated" despite having no combat record"

I know nothing of the subject, but I did a quick search (as these things interest me) and the 442nd apparently did see combat. I did read this on wiki, but I doubt if they'd make it up.

Blogger buwaya June 15, 2019 2:40 PM  

Re the 442nd combat record, you will find much of it in the US Army "Green Book" series, volumes to look for are "Salerno to Cassino", Blumenson (look for the 100th Battalion), "Cassino to the Alps", Fisher, "Riviera to the Rhine", Clark&Smith (quite extensive).

All are downloadable as pdfs from the US Army Center of Military History.

Blogger John Rockwell June 17, 2019 10:38 AM  

@16
"I suppose the Japanese are a true ally of the US today. But, I still can't, and won't forgive them of the atrocities they committed in WWII. Especially, against our fighting men."

Indeed and those men will have their day before the great white throne.

But descendants who weren't even alive aren't responsible for their ancestor's crimes.

Blogger SullyRob June 17, 2019 6:10 PM  

That arguement doesn't really work as well as you think. The United states was still able to win the Second World War even with this supposed "enemy within". And very few Japanese immigrants committed any acts of treason against the United States during the war.

Blogger wraff June 18, 2019 11:03 PM  

As if Americans have that kind of fight left in them.

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