Monday, June 24, 2019

Deplatforming Christian morality

Australian rugby star Israel Folau's legal defense crowdfunding campaign was deplatformed and shut down by GoFundMe:
Israel Folau's controversial appeal for financial assistance for his legal fight against Rugby Australia has been shut down by GoFundMe Australia, with more than $650,000 in funds donated to the sacked rugby star expected to be refunded.

Rugby Australia terminated Folau's multimillion-dollar contract last month after he posted a photo to Instagram in April that said homosexuals were destined for hell unless they repented of their sins.

Folau, 30, launched legal proceedings with the Fair Work Commission and said that, if a deal is not struck with RA, he would take the matter to the High Court. He set up the GoFundMe page in the hope of receiving $3 million in donations.

But GoFundMe Australia released a statement to the Herald on Monday saying the Folau appeal breached the organisation's terms and conditions.

"Today we will be closing Israel Folau’s campaign and issuing full refunds to all donors. After a routine period of evaluation, we have concluded that this campaign violates our terms of service," GoFundMe Australia regional manager Nicola Britton said.

"As a company, we are absolutely committed to the fight for equality for LGBTIQ+ people and fostering an environment of inclusivity.

"While we welcome GoFundMes engaging in diverse civil debate, we do not tolerate the promotion of discrimination or exclusion."
It's always lies, lies, and more lies, with a side order of lies, with these inversives. There was no "routine period of evaluation". What happened was that a bunch of SJW activists complained and thereby triggered the amenable authorities at GoFundMe, who duly pretended to have reviewed the campaign.

I am not familiar with GoFundMe's terms of use, particularly not in Australia, but Folau should carefully review them in order to see where their legal vulnerabilities lie. And this is yet another reminder that Christians and everyone who has not submitted to the satanic Narrative needs to build and utilize their own non-SJW platforms.

While Folau's GoFundMe page soared past the $580,000 mark on Saturday, there were growing calls for the "hypocritical" website, which proudly displays a gay pride flag on its social media accounts, to shut down the fundraising exercise.

As I said, lies and more lies. I hope Mr. Folau will follow through and make the rubble bounce.

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Blogger John June 24, 2019 5:42 AM  

Folau's post also included several other types of degenerate behavior that leads to hell, including: drunkenness, lying, adultery, fornicators, thieves, atheists and idolators.

Blogger WinningforCoins June 24, 2019 5:50 AM  


Blogger Gregory the Tall June 24, 2019 6:02 AM  

OK, they stopped doing legal defense funds because of protests against the funding of Melissa's Bakery (who had refused to bake a cake for a gay wedding), then they restarted doing legal defense funds for "Time's up", a defense fund for people who claim to have been raped or sexually harassed.
I do not know what their current position is re legal defense funds, but they have a promising arbitration clause in their terms:

The Process. Any arbitration between you and us will be settled under the Federal Arbitration Act and administered by the American Arbitration Association (“AAA”) under its Consumer Arbitration Rules (collectively, “AAA Rules”) as modified by these Terms of Service. The AAA Rules and filing forms are available online at by calling the AAA at 1-800-778-7879.

A party who intends to seek arbitration must first send a written notice of the dispute to the other party by certified U.S. Mail or by Federal Express (signature required) or, only if that other party has not provided a current physical address, then by electronic mail (“Notice of Arbitration”). Our current address for Notice is: GoFundMe, Inc. 855 Jefferson Avenue, Redwood City, CA 94063.

Blogger God Emperor Memes June 24, 2019 6:08 AM  

The usual deliberately nebulous TOU, to be interpreted in whichever way best suits the Leftist agenda.

Blogger Gregory the Tall June 24, 2019 6:17 AM  

@4 well, if any consumer can start an arbitration for being discriminated against for just 250 dollars in California, it does not really matter if their terms are nebulous or not.

Blogger wahr01 June 24, 2019 6:32 AM  

I don't see how this passes in arbitration:

It's not a campaign against gay rights, it's a campaign to help a football star sue for wrongful termination.

They'd have to get an SJW arbitrator to be able to twist that kind of intent out of it, and good luck doing that, arbitration in "social justice" circles is synonymous with "you have no rights", so no SJW would go near one, let alone fall into its employ.

Blogger Gregory the Tall June 24, 2019 6:38 AM  

@5 I was referring to the fairly astronomic costs for GoFundMe of say 300 parallel consumer arbitrations. Hopefully they will end up as "Dark Vapour" (very nice term, Vox!).

Blogger Toris June 24, 2019 6:41 AM  

I lose track of the letters. IQ+ are the highly intelligent sodomites and trannies?

Folau ... what a legend. Sporting competitions don't determine the best, just who can win from within a narrow PC-approved selection of competitors.

Blogger Warunicorn June 24, 2019 6:43 AM  

Christ did warn us that we would be hated just for who we are.

I guess they won't be happy until balkanazation happens.

Fine by me. The world could get by with less satanastic, lying whores in it.

/cue Johnny Cash's "God's Gonna Cut You Down"

Blogger bagginz June 24, 2019 6:45 AM  

"While we welcome GoFundMes engaging in diverse civil debate, we do not tolerate the promotion of discrimination or exclusion."

So we'll just go right ahead and discriminate against Israel Folou and exclude him from our service in our fight against discrimination and exclusion.

Blogger Robert What? June 24, 2019 6:59 AM  

Question for any legal scholars who might be here. According to US laws at least, are private corporations like GoFundMe legally required to abide by their own TOS? Or like social media, can they ban anyone for any reason they want (or no reason at all)?

Blogger Doktor Jeep June 24, 2019 7:13 AM  

Hopefully Folau does not go the Christcuck WWJD route and allow himself to get crucified further. There's only one crucifiction that mattered, ever. Everybody else is just submission.

Blogger VD June 24, 2019 7:22 AM  

can they ban anyone for any reason they want (or no reason at all)?

Generally yes, as long as the campaign isn't complete and the money is not yet contractually owed. But it depends upon the terms of service.

Blogger Dark Herald June 24, 2019 7:30 AM  

I've been republishing "A Song of Grod," on my new blog.

My new commentors all thought it was great and funny stuff and why wasn't I publishing it?

My answer was at this point I'm not certain Amazon wouldn't cancel my KDP account for ThoughtCrime.

Besides a cover and editing cost money and "A Song of Grod," is such a niche market, it probably wouldn't sell enough to make a profit.

I mean, honestly, how big is the market for a hard right Terry Pratchett knock off?

I was then begged to put up a Go Fund Me.

I truly appreciated the sentiment but I am 100% certain that that would be canceled within hours.

Blogger Tanjil Bren June 24, 2019 7:35 AM  

Actually, it's quite conceivable that a thoroughly enforceable contract existed from the moment Israel launched his GoFundMe campaign, no matter what their seriously stupid 'terms of use' insist.
What's more, the damages are wonderfully demonstrable; in excess of AUD700,000 when I last checked.
The real issue is how corrupted the Australian judiciary now is.
On that front, all bets are off.
In fact, given the addition of that particular wildcard, I'd all but guarantee he'd lose.

Blogger anorganicbear June 24, 2019 7:39 AM  

What they do in the privacy of their own bedroom is nobody else's business!

Until it is.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother June 24, 2019 7:41 AM  

2015: we just want to be left alone!
2019: with your children!

Blogger Ryan G June 24, 2019 7:50 AM  

Honestly, if I were that guy, I'd send e-mails to my supporters, put links on a personal website, etc to a legal account where they can donate directly. Fuck GoFundMe, PayPal, and all those other services. They are either too chickenshit to stand up to a tiny group of weirdos or in cahoots with them. Either way, they deserve nothing.

Oh, and screw the author of the cited article too. 'Controversial'. That's the kind of yellow journalist, Weasel Worded nonsense one might expect out of a high school newspaper, not a Mainstream Media professional article. Every time I see that in an article, I mentally replace it with, "action that I, and my organization, disagree with"

Blogger Rocklea Marina June 24, 2019 7:51 AM  

GoFundMe isn't using JAMS, they use AAA. It comes under US federal law and not Californian law is my reading.

This was a set piece. This morning conservative talk radio were mewling about how, "of course Israel has the right to run a GoFundMe, but is it palatable that he is doing it on a site that raises money for sick children?" They had foreknowledge of the ban before it occurred and were trotting out the pre-scripted talking points. Slim pickings for talk radio in Oz.

As far as Israel getting representation, I imagine he'll have no shortage of Barristers and QC's lining up to do it pro bono. For the wrongful dismissal that is.

Blogger Gregory the Tall June 24, 2019 7:55 AM  

@19 does this mean that an arbitration will cost a consumer much more than under Californian law, like maybe 50 percent of the total costs?

Blogger Rocklea Marina June 24, 2019 8:08 AM  

@20 Actually I was wrong. Here is the relevant section:

"Fees. If you commence arbitration in accordance with these Terms of Service, we will reimburse you for your payment of the filing fee unless your claim is for more than $10,000 in which case the payment of any fees will be decided by the AAA Rules. Any arbitration hearing will take place at an agreed upon location in San Francisco, California, but if the claim is for $10,000 or less, you may choose whether the arbitration will be conducted: (a) solely on the basis of documents submitted to the arbitrator; (b) through a telephone hearing or (c) by an in-person hearing as established by the AAA Rules in the county of your billing address. If the arbitration finds that either the substance of your claim or the relief sought in the Demand is frivolous or brought for an improper purpose (as measured by the standards set forth in the Federal Rule of Civil procedure 11(b), then the payment of all fees will be governed by the AAA Rules. In that case, you agree to reimburse us for all monies previously disbursed by us that are otherwise your obligation to pay under the AAA Rules. Regardless of the manner in which the arbitration is conducted, the arbitrator must issue a reasoned written decision sufficient to explain the essential findings and conclusions on which the decision and award, if any, are based. The arbitrator may make rulings and resolve disputes as to the payment and reimbursement of fees or expenses at any time during the proceeding and upon request from either party made within 14 days of the arbitrator’s ruling on the merits."

My apologies.

Blogger Gregory the Tall June 24, 2019 8:23 AM  

AAA Consumer Arbitration Rules:

Desk/Documents-Only Arbitration or In-Person or Telephonic Hearing Arbitration
Filing Fee: $200 (nonrefundable)

Blogger Gregory the Tall June 24, 2019 8:33 AM  

I would not mind being part of team (that would include at least one US lawyer) writing a book called
"How to win consumer arbitration against big companies".
... unless that is already on Castalia's to do list.

Blogger swiftfoxmark2 June 24, 2019 8:57 AM  

As Owen Benjamin said, the "+" in "LGBTQ+" stands for pedophilia. And probably bestiality as well.

Blogger Gregory the Tall June 24, 2019 9:03 AM  

@24 exactly, those two are just the worst things, but in principal I think it stands for "whatever you lust for" be it animate or inanimate.

Blogger wreckage June 24, 2019 9:15 AM  

Oh please let a 10,000 member parallel arbitration case be possible. It wouldn't just bounce the rubble, it would bounce the rubble made by the bouncing of the rubble. It would be a rubble fractal of rare and complex beauty.

Blogger Wrangler June 24, 2019 9:39 AM  

Being de-platformed seems pretty tame compared to Canada, where Pastors David Lynn and Dorre Love have been arrested and banned from parts of the city for preaching against homosexuality.

Blogger Gregory the Tall June 24, 2019 9:50 AM  

@26 I guess Hollywood and Netflix would never make a movie about it, but it would be so good!

Blogger Dangeresque June 24, 2019 10:06 AM  

How anti-semitic of them to deplatform Israel.

Blogger Jamie-R June 24, 2019 10:17 AM  

They started detailing the $7 million property portfolio he has in The Australian, trying to get people to think twice about supporting him, forgetting the fact the guy lost his playing contract over this. He knows there's support for him as a rally around focal point on a flashpoint issue of freedom of beliefs, which will obviously include discrimination of conflicting beliefs. Eventually folks are going to figure out that the curtailing of certain groups of Nazi Germany is now just a flipped version called Pride Germany. None of this is British in origin it's the race to the bottom of tyranny. Degenerates will win that.

Blogger CM June 24, 2019 10:34 AM  

Just give us the means to wire transfer or send a check.

And then his supporters can fund both his lawsuits.

Blogger Tom June 24, 2019 10:46 AM  

More good print on this subject...

Blogger Avraham June 24, 2019 11:17 AM  

homosexual acts of males is the death penalty in Leviticus, but that does mean that one goes to hell. rather there is always the possibility to repent. Or even if one does not repent there is always the issue of going to hell for a certain period and then getting out as you can see clearly in the Reishit Chachma ראשית חכמה and other books I have forgotten about off hand. .There are sins for which hell is permanent but this is not one of them.
The more serious issue is that they are מחטיא את הרבים try to cause many people to sin. And that is a much more serious offence.

Blogger binks webelf June 24, 2019 11:34 AM  


The lovable moral superiority & surveillance crowd at GoogTube hit with fresh trouble:
Insider Blows Whistle & Exec Reveals Google Plan to Prevent "Trump situation" in 2020 on Hidden Cam
Google Just Got EXPOSED In Hidden Camera Footage

Looks like maybe GoogTube shouldn't have slapped down Project Veritas over that Pinterest Blacklist story, IMHO.


• Insider: Google "is bent on never letting somebody like Donald Trump come to power again."
• Google Exec Says Don't Break Us Up: "smaller companies don't have the resources" to "prevent next Trump situation"
• Google Head of Responsible Innovation Says Elizabeth Warren "misguided" on "breaking up Google"
• Insider Says PragerU And Dave Rubin Content Suppressed, Targeted As "Right-Wing"
• LEAKED Documents Highlight "Machine Learning Fairness" and Google’s Practices to Make Search Results "fair and equitable"
• Documents Appear to Show "Editorial" Policies That Determine How Google Publishes News
• Insider: Google Violates "letter of the law" and "spirit of the law" on Section 230
Back-up Vid, doc caps & details: Insider Blows Whistle & Exec Reveals Google Plan to Prevent “Trump situation” in 2020 on Hidden Cam

Blogger  Trust Ted get misled. Gamma secret kings reddit June 24, 2019 11:41 AM  

No one can de platform the Lord God. I know this will all work out for Folau.

Blogger Roman Daoist June 24, 2019 11:45 AM  

Israel Folau is being hindered in his effort to settle a dispute legally. He's trying to be nice about it. And the left are just playing with him.

The harder the left push the more apparant their insanity, and the need for a structural counter-action, become. There's a lot of notionally polite people seething at this stuff just waiting to tag onto some kind of solution.

I predict the theory of equality, feminism, subjective-gender-ism-shit-whatever, will become illegal. Leftism will be a diagnosable condition with standard treatments (such as farm-work for the next 20 years).

Blogger Fozzy Bear June 24, 2019 11:48 AM  

If Folau’s lawyers are any good, GoFundMe is about to discover that consequential damages for breach of the statutory implied warranty in Australia are potentially unlimited. The statutory warranty requires that the service be provided with due care and skill; be fit for any express or implied purpose; and be completed in a reasonable timeframe. The warranty cannot be reduced or mitigated by contractual weasel words. It is foreseeable that if GoFundMe had provided the service with due care and diligence, Folau would have been successful in his legal defense and regained his Rugby contract. Those are huge potential damages.

Blogger Gregory the Tall June 24, 2019 11:51 AM  

LP916 wrote:No one can de platform the Lord God. Best post today!

Blogger Pyro Smith June 24, 2019 11:54 AM  


Blogger Fozzy Bear June 24, 2019 11:56 AM  

To be clear: mandatory arbitration clauses do not overcome the implied statutory warranty, a breach of the Australian Consumer Law can always be litigated in an Australian court.

Blogger Jim the Curmudgeon June 24, 2019 1:03 PM  

Good lord, it's not like the guy started up a campaign to shoot gay people. He stated non-PC opinions and was jettisoned for doing so.

Blogger tublecane June 24, 2019 1:18 PM  

"After a routine period of evaluation"

This is a hilarious way to put it, to me at least. I think they want to say there was a long enough pause between their becoming aware of the crimetalk and their taking action. That there was nothing unusual in the swiftness of their justice. A routine social hammering.

However, this phrasing makes it sound like an inspector made a random spot-check on an assembly line in the Dallas/Ft. Worth plant, kicking off a recall of defective widgets for the whole South Central region.

Blogger Jason June 24, 2019 1:24 PM  

As Vox has helped me understand, there is no free speech, there is only the interpretation of the first amendment set by those in power. The First Amendment enforced in the first 150 years of the country is nearly the opposite of what has been enforced in the past 50 years. There were blasphemy laws and sodomy laws on the books for over a century that weren't even questioned as being unconstitutional. Pushing homosexuality, Islam, etc., would have been swiftly shutdown by the prevailing powers of early America. Now we are told we are unamerican if we don't hand over the country to those who want to destroy everything it was built on. This is war gentlemen, and we are losing.

Blogger weka June 24, 2019 3:07 PM  

Folau is more.dteemined and is lawyered up,so the scum are going after his wife

Blogger Bibliotheca Servare June 24, 2019 3:08 PM  


I know I said this on Dark Herald, but I just wanted to reemphasize that I think you would be surprised how many people who are not explicitly "hard" right would be willing to buy Song of Grod. I mean Kratman writes pretty darn hard right (with a dash of civ-nat, I suppose) war/military/sci-fi books, and his work has a guaranteed market, as far as I can tell.

Of course, I'm not the one who would be taking on the risk, so my opinion is worth as much as it cost to give it.

Yeah, the GoFundMe was a terrible idea.

On topic, I hope Folau burns them to the ground, and his lawyers salt the ashes.

Blogger jdwalker June 24, 2019 3:16 PM  

They just went one further and sent the following:

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Blogger God Emperor Memes June 24, 2019 3:20 PM  

Because damn near all of the Australian netball team are ugly lesbians.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash June 24, 2019 3:26 PM  

@HoosierHillbilly, Acts 17:26-27

Blogger God Emperor Memes June 24, 2019 3:33 PM  

The Australian Christian Lobby has contacted Folau and set up their own fund, to which people can donate.
Leftists are screeching about it all over social media.

Blogger SuperSijy June 24, 2019 4:26 PM  


Blogger weka June 24, 2019 4:44 PM  

Folau is building his own platform.

Blogger weka June 24, 2019 4:46 PM  

In kiwiland also.
Idiots. My church has an expansion offering every year that raises six figures and we don't use GoFundMe or their ilk. The Aussie Christians are wide awake.

Blogger God Emperor Memes June 24, 2019 7:12 PM  

Are you AOG- affiliated (or whatever they call it now)?

Blogger Karen took the Kids June 24, 2019 7:21 PM  

Hate to be "that guy" but he possibly could have scouted out a more welcoming platform for his fundraising. I understand this is becoming more difficult with the rabid convergence of these entities though.

Blogger God Emperor Memes June 24, 2019 7:25 PM  

He wouldn't have thought of it, and he also wouldn't have been the one who set it up.

Blogger God Emperor Memes June 24, 2019 8:26 PM  

aaaaand now the Left are trying to push for the ACL to lose its charity status over this.

Blogger God Emperor Memes June 24, 2019 9:21 PM

Blogger Terrific June 24, 2019 9:52 PM  

No one NEEDS an Intermediary. Any Intermediary. The Internet has ELIMINATED the need for any kind of Middleman.

All you have to do is download an app like Zelle from your banking app and tell everyone if they want donate to you to also download the app and do it. IT'S FREE!! Almost instantaneous! And not a penny will go to the SJWs!

It's how all my tenants pay their rent. What a load off my back. Only if they don't pay by the 5th do have to I go visit them. So far, I haven't had to. It's easy for them, too.

Blogger Jack Amok June 24, 2019 10:15 PM  

BTW, it looks like the real impetus behind him being fired was gays high up at Quantas Airlines (who sponsor Australian Rugby) demanding it.

In case anyone was booking flights or something.

Blogger God Emperor Memes June 24, 2019 11:12 PM  

Yes, Alan Joyce is widely known to be a radical Gaystapo activist.

Blogger God Emperor Memes June 24, 2019 11:16 PM  

So what happens when the SJWs running your bank decide you are not allowed to have an account there? - This is happening right now to Blair Cottrell.

Blogger God Emperor Memes June 25, 2019 3:18 AM  

Update: more than $1,000,000 raised *since this morning*.
Leftists am cry.

Blogger Gregory the Tall June 25, 2019 6:11 AM  

@60 Alan Joyce is also reported to have a salary more than 12 million Australian dollars per year. I hope he decides to buy a lot of Boeing 737 Max planes.

Blogger Duh June 25, 2019 7:24 AM  

Hahahaha the new donations over at ACL now are $1.3M, doubling the amount raised at GoFundMe when they pulled the plug.

Now where have I seen that phenomenon before...

Blogger Ty Richards June 26, 2019 2:14 AM  

Their efforts to destroy this guy have more than doubled his efforts. He should take the excess and sue GoFundMe just for fun.

Blogger Hieroglyph June 26, 2019 7:11 AM  

This is shaping up very nicely indeed. The Australian Christian lobby has stepped in, raised a tonne, and the SJW complaints started immediately. Some Not For Profit commission now has to field this nonsense, doubtless the SJWs are causing strife there too.

Slow burner this, but it's becoming a big battle in the culture war. The type that, lost or won, people recall as important 20 years later.

Blogger KnightTemplarr June 26, 2019 10:58 AM  

Thanks for posting this,I sent him $25, transaction was quick and easy.

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