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Sunday, June 30, 2019

Don't think this doesn't happen near you

An Italian CPS-style kidnap factory is exposed:
Italians are reeling from the revelation that a crime ring, which includes a mayor, doctors and social workers, had been brainwashing children to say their parents abused them, so as to easily sell them on to foster families.

So far eighteen people, including the mayor of the town of Bibbiano, near Reggio Emilia in northern Italy, have been arrested.

They were suspected of working together to brainwash the kids, who were taken from disadvantaged families under false pretexts, into believing they’d been abused at home. This was later used as a justification to seize the children and, basically, to sell them to foster parents at a high price.

The psychologists at the Hansel and Gretel Association in the town of Moncalieri, near Turin, have used a variety of bizarre techniques to achieve their sinister goal.

They relied on persuasion to make their victims believe that their parents hurt and sexually abused them; showed fake, childlike drawings with added sexual details and even enacted plays, dressing up in scary masks to represent their moms and dads as being vile and dangerous.... The people to whom the boys and girls were handed over reportedly included sex shop owners, persons with psychological disorders and parents whose children had committed suicide. It was under this ‘foster care’ that at least two of the victims suffered actual sexual abuse, according to reports.

The criminal organization was busted by police as part of an operation codenamed “Angels and Demons,” which was launched in late summer 2018 after an unnaturally high number of child sex abuse reports were spotted as coming from an area in the Reggio Emilia province. Those arrested, as well as 27 others under investigation, have been charged with mistreatment of minors, violence, abuse of office, fraud and falsifying public records.
It appears that 30 children were kidnapped under color of law. The primary difference is that in the USA and Canada, the people running these child trafficking rings never seem to get exposed or arrested. Every crime is always portrayed as some sort of one-off committed by a sicko; all the evidence that the crimes are organized by authority figures is dismissed as conspiracy theory. Just ask Jordan Peterson.

The Italians, however, are taking this case very seriously. The Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of the Interior Matteo Salvini has announced the commissioning of a federal inquest to investigate a child trafficking ring that is very reminiscent of the "Veleno" case of twenty years ago, when 17 children from two other towns near Reggio Emilia were removed from their families by the local authorities under similarly dubious circumstances.

The children-loving Italians are taking this news with their usual equanimity, of course. I've seen more than a few calls for the death penalty.


UPDATE: Back in the USSA, Disney has been the epicenter of Pedowood since the Michael Eisner era.
Tiffany FitzHenry@Tiff_FitzHenry
Former Disney star Bella Thorne: "Getting molested from [the age of] 6-14... being abuse all the time...I was being molested....people have no idea the type mistreatment I was dealing with [while a Disney star] that everyone around me saw and did nothing."

Yes, Pedowood is real.

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Blogger Halvar Andersen June 30, 2019 7:03 AM  

They named it the Hansel and Gretel Association! What else could they have possibly been up to? Spirit cooking? Isn't there a version of the fairy tale that ends with the witch boiling to death in the cauldron? That would be an end too good for such bastards.

Blogger Dave Dave June 30, 2019 7:07 AM  

In the Hansel und Gretel I know, the witch was shoved into the oven. A remarkably good destination for the pedos as well.

Blogger John June 30, 2019 7:10 AM  

How many of the perps are actually (((Italians)))?

Blogger VD June 30, 2019 7:17 AM  

They named it the Hansel and Gretel Association!

They usually signal. People really need to pay more attention to the clues waved right in front of their faces.

Blogger bagginz June 30, 2019 7:19 AM  

"the Hansel and Gretel Association"

Appropriate.

"Hansel and Gretel are a young brother and sister kidnapped by a cannibalistic witch living in a forest"

https://infogalactic.com/info/Hansel_and_Gretel

Blogger #7139 June 30, 2019 7:19 AM  

Make beheading great again.

Blogger John Rockwell June 30, 2019 7:20 AM  

@VD

I wouldn't be more surprised if those children was used in some kind of black magic ritual as implied by the name "Hansel and Gretel"

Blogger Don't Call Me Len June 30, 2019 7:30 AM  

The police said the children were also subjected to small electric shocks, referred to as “the little memory machine” by the shrinks.

Let's bring back flaying alive as a punishment.

Blogger Bernard Korzeniewicz June 30, 2019 7:36 AM  

Auchvitz?

Blogger Dan in Georgia June 30, 2019 7:46 AM  

Make Shrinks Quacks Again

Blogger Ferdinand June 30, 2019 7:49 AM  

I was always extremely uncomfortable with the fact that the state can take children from their parents at all. De facto that just means that the state owns all children and can take them whenever it pleases. Do they even check relatives or friends of the family first if they want to take a real endangered kid in, or does it go straight into the lottery of foster families?

Blogger Damelon Brinn June 30, 2019 7:57 AM  

Every crime is always portrayed as some sort of one-off committed by a sicko

Yes. Even with the NXIVM leaders being convicted of running a sex cult that owned several schools and daycares and had tentacles into DC and Hollywood, you get people saying organized pedophile rings aren't real. With the happy aid of the media in burying the story, of course.

They named it the Hansel and Gretel Association!

They get off on hiding in plain sight. Their logic is that if they signal what they're doing to you and you don't stop them, the guilt is yours. If the cattle didn't want to be slaughtered, they'd stampede and stomp the farmer to death.

There's also a reverse psychology to it that helps protect them when people think, "Wait, if he were really a pedophile, he wouldn't joke about it on social media and draw attention to it. He can't be one." No matter how many times that's proven wrong.

Blogger The Observer June 30, 2019 8:01 AM  

I was always extremely uncomfortable with the fact that the state can take children from their parents at all. De facto that just means that the state owns all children and can take them whenever it pleases.

The very fact that CPS and its likes exists at all is a travesty. The violation of the family and its jurisdictions aside, the very nature of it incentivizes it to create more problems that it "solves", hence justifying shoveling more $ into it. This pretty much goes the same for the vast majority of organisations and bodies created to tackle social ills. None of them want the problems they purportedly exist to solve to go away; their livelihoods depend on it in the same way ratcatchers would leave pregnant females and young undisturbed to ensure they had a job tomorrow.

"But muh abused children." That's the job of the local people to do something about if it's actually a problem, but the deliberate atomisation of people -- from extended families into nuclear ones, from neighbours who don't even know each others' names. That the likes of these exist at all state that the social technologies we used to take for granted a century or two ago are all but non-existent now.

Blogger Dan in Georgia June 30, 2019 8:04 AM  

I go with BB’s interpretation here. There seems to be a rule where they have to announce their evil intent, and it has to be done in plain sight. Along the lines of having to invite the vampire into the house.

Blogger Dan in Georgia June 30, 2019 8:10 AM  

At some point being accused of treating your children like slaves (by having them do chores) became worse than the state being able to take them from you for no reason. WTF?

Blogger Don't Call Me Len June 30, 2019 8:14 AM  

@11 - “In other words, the state is the father and mother of the child and the natural parents are not entitled to custody, except upon the state’s beneficent recognition that natural parents presumably will be the best of its citizens to delegate its custodial powers… ‘The law devolves the custody of infant children upon their parents, not so much upon the ground of natural right in the latter, as because the interests of the children, and the good of the public, will, as a general rule, be thereby promoted.’ ” –Chandler v. Whatley, 238 Ala. 206, 208, 189 So. 751, 753 (1939) (quoting Striplin v. Ware, 36 Ala. at 89) (‘ ’).

Blogger Daniele Grech Pereira June 30, 2019 8:14 AM  

Death penalty? We have all these old colosseums just sitting there being looked at by tourists.

Blogger Mystic On Main June 30, 2019 8:33 AM  

Ah....the Italians are on the case....This should be wrapped up in no time !!

Blogger swiftfoxmark2 June 30, 2019 8:39 AM  

The primary difference is that in the USA and Canada, the people running these child trafficking rings never seem to get exposed or arrested. Every crime is always portrayed as some sort of one-off committed by a sicko; all the evidence that the crimes are organized by authority figures is dismissed as conspiracy theory.

That and the good people with enough power to investigate it usually end up committing suicide or dying in a plane crash.

Blogger Zaklog the Great June 30, 2019 9:10 AM  

And this was done by abusing government and non-profit organizations. Once again, I wonder are we ruled by monsters? And when will judgment come for them? Considering my own sins, I guess I should be careful about calling for the day of judgment. Jesus addressed this one in the parable of the wheats and tares.

Blogger Zaklog the Great June 30, 2019 9:12 AM  

Let's bring back flaying alive as a punishment.

You have no idea how creative our ancestors could be in the matter of death by torture. Dan Carlin did an informative episode of Hardcore History called, I believe, "Painfotainment". Chilling stuff, although occasionally you run across cases that justify it.

Blogger Crew June 30, 2019 9:13 AM  

And Tiffany FitzHenry confirms that PedoWood is real:

https://twitter.com/Tiff_FitzHenry/status/1145017021794529281

Blogger VD June 30, 2019 9:29 AM  

You are banned, Phillip George. Fuck off, go away, and stay away. Forever.

Blogger English Tom June 30, 2019 9:32 AM  

I remember many years ago there was a chemical incident in an Italian town called Preveso. It was so bad, pregnant women had to apply to the Vatican for permission to get abortions due to the damage these particular chemicals could do to the unborn.

A few weeks later, the mayor was shot dead. Here's hoping this is a repeating lesson to all those who betray the people they are meant to care for.

Blogger sammibandit June 30, 2019 9:45 AM  

Turin to Trent is 355.4 km by train passing through or just outside Milan. Trent is where little St. Simon was ritually murdered at about age 2 ~500 years ago. Milan is pretty much like Cannes in Southern France--where girls go with promises of high fashion careers to be trafficked against their wishes.

This story reminds me of Pink Flamingos.

Blogger Avalanche June 30, 2019 9:52 AM  

@13 The violation of the family and its jurisdictions aside....

The comments + Vox Day's description that the Roman father could KILL any child of his; and my own continual hope that one of you will discuss my objection related to e.g., the left-over descendants of slaves, about killing lice but leaving the nits behind to grow into more lice?

Here's my question:
IF you resist and would end the govt taking over "who owns the children" allowing or disallowing the father to do as he wants to his offspring, and

IF that means that some parents will abuse, neglect unto death, sell to pedos or into slavery, or abandon their 'owned' children,

THEN where's your line? How do you draw it?

CPS began as an offshoot of the SPCA: Society for Protection of ANIMALS! Whites -- it's always Whites -- wanted to stop abuse of companion and working animals. NOT save them all and turn vegan, but treat them well while using them as we chose or as suited society.

CPS was to protect "born" babies from being abused, most of which still occurs. CPS began as a good way to help the children OF OUR NATION, whose parents were unable or unwilling to care for them; then expanded to cover all children everywhere: "It's for the chiiiiildren!" And of course CPS turned pathological as our society turned pathological. Protecting someone ELSE's children is a HUWHITE thing!


EITHER it's okay if the govt interferes in a parent's right to do anything to the 'fruit of their loins,' which I suggest includes aborting, perhaps under some strict state limitations’
OR the govt has no rights and no responsibility to interfere, which means the abortions you're objecting to must be allowed.

A Pew Research Center survey taken last year found that 50% of Hispanics, 58% of whites and 62% of blacks now say abortion should be legal in all or most cases.

...while African-Americans constitute 32.2 percent of Georgia’s population, 62.4 percent of abortions in Georgia are performed on African-American women. ... whites constitute 60.8 percent of the Georgia population, but only 24.7 percent ... white women.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/lets-talk-about-the-black-abortion-rate-1531263697


I don't understand folks here NOT rejoicing that:
more members of the black community are killed by abortion each year in the U.S. than by all other causes combined....

As of July 2017, the black population in the U.S. stood somewhere around 40 million, which means that abortion has reduced the size of the black community by more than 30% -- and that doesn't include the children and grandchildren that would have been born to those aborted more than a generation ago.

https://www.thepublicdiscourse.com/2019/02/48594/


So many of our destructive, uncivilized and uncivilizable black underclass; and the other prolific creators of future problem, the imvaders; have not been created / allowed to be born that our nation, our White, Euro-derived, Christendom, has not quite yet fallen so far, so fast. Can anyone deny that? Since R.v.W, 18-19 MILLION destructive, violent, mostly public-charge, rioting, raping, murdering blacks have NOT been added to our country!

GOD seems fine with wiping tribes and nations off the face of the earth, down to the youngest infant, even including the livestock! I suspect everyone here seems fine with wiping out disease-carrying mosquito "babies" or lice and their nits with chemicals. Why the short-circuit into wanting to protect and ALLOW the nits of our enemies to grow up into yet MORE destructive enemies 'IN OUR HOUSE'?

Blogger Drake Stake June 30, 2019 9:54 AM  

Disgusting pigs. I hope one day there is a purge of all these sick child abusers.
All their crimes exposed, strip them naked in the middle of town and whip them to death, hang their bodies ip Mussolini style so everyone can spit on them.

Blogger Brick Hardslab June 30, 2019 9:55 AM  

It's not the children taken from the abusive parents that is chilling. It's the ones that are left in an abusive home. Prepubescent girls and boys pimped out for drugs money or because that's the family's tradition. Children taught to indoctrinate other children four or five generations under one roof of every vile degeneracy going on. And the judge does nothing because of this or that pro family or libertarian reason then you find out they were removed from the bench elsewhere for exactly the same things. Ain't our fallen world Grand?

Blogger Roman Daoist June 30, 2019 10:05 AM  

An actual loner psycho _might_ deserve just life in prison but co-ordinated stuff like this; execution. But the left will scream that execution is barbaric (on their way to getting another abortion...). Some people just don't deserve to continue living - and apart form the cost of a bullet or five, no public money should be spent on them. Executions should be a solemn event, not celebrated. But done they must be. Otherwise, what for all this civilisation?

Blogger rycamor June 30, 2019 10:06 AM  

VD wrote:They named it the Hansel and Gretel Association!

They usually signal. People really need to pay more attention to the clues waved right in front of their faces.


I'm sure a certain part of this is just to advertise to others who share their sickness, but there is always an air of insouciance about it, because that is part of the thrill. Just like a major part of the thrill of homosexuality is to shock the normies, so now that we have widespread acceptance, they are upping the ante with drag queen reading hour and perversion festivals in the streets.

Blogger VD June 30, 2019 10:08 AM  

Get off your pet hobby horse, Avalanche. Abortion for Africans is not the topic here.

Blogger Avalanche June 30, 2019 10:10 AM  

Sorry.

Blogger rycamor June 30, 2019 10:13 AM  

Brick Hardslab wrote:It's not the children taken from the abusive parents that is chilling. It's the ones that are left in an abusive home. Prepubescent girls and boys pimped out for drugs money or because that's the family's tradition.

Problem is, those taken from abusive parents are often subject to far worse in the foster homes they are sold off to. The system as a whole is sick.

Blogger binks webelf June 30, 2019 10:13 AM  

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Blogger Roman Daoist June 30, 2019 10:18 AM  

26 Avalanche

CPS is fine so long as child _protection_ is what occurs, including protection from crazy/cruel biological parents. And I'm all for eugenics: Marriage licences. Tax concessions for high IQ/ high empathy married hetero parents. Sterilisation of very low IQ/ low empathy people. Minimal immigration. Et cetera. Population (quality) management should be a standard government responsibility.

Blogger Dave June 30, 2019 10:28 AM  

More encouraging news from Italy, love the "jeering onlookers":

LAMPEDUSA, Sicily (AP) — The German captain of a humanitarian rescue ship with 40 migrants aboard has been arrested after she rammed her vessel into an Italian border police motorboat while docking at a tiny Mediterranean island Saturday in defiance of Italy’s anti-migrant interior minister.

Jeering onlookers shouted “handcuffs, handcuffs” as Carola Rackete, the 31-year-old captain, was escorted off the boat at Lampedusa,


https://apnews.com/a68a99dd9f4c49d995a21f12f75cc3ac

Blogger sammibandit June 30, 2019 10:28 AM  

Re: signals

Maybe some are overthinking this. Predators always give warning. Even preternatural predators give warning. Let me explain as it was taught to me as a girl because I know this story from witness reports and not a book. I tell this story sometimes on the blog and I'll repeat it now.

My relative is from the Carpathian foothills where lots of jewish magic is found. She was taught as a girl not to take candy from jews, just as I was, and just as I tell you now. So what happened to her that I'm telling this story now? Well, a childless jewish couple in village, 2 of 11 there, offered her candy but she had to go into their home to get it. Suspicious, right? After the third time they asked her she told her uncles. They never bothered her again.

Blogger Joe Smith June 30, 2019 10:36 AM  

@Halvar Andersen It's absolutely amazing that they can't help themselves. It's gay pride, and designing the EU parliament to look like renditions of the Tower of Babel, and the Hansel and Gretel Association, and etc. For some reason, evil has to announce itself. It blows me away.

Blogger tuberman June 30, 2019 10:37 AM  

Talk, about a year ago on 8Chan, was about many Judges put in place since Bush (41) to help the agencies steal even kids from decent parents to be used for Pedo and other corrupt purposes. This included Judges and Prosecuters at all levels, whose prime directive was to exploit normal families, or families with minor problems, and sell them to the demons.

This is bad now, but was to go wholesale after HCR was elected, as in, many times worse.

Blogger Damelon Brinn June 30, 2019 10:38 AM  

"after she rammed her vessel into an Italian border police motorboat while docking"

Woman drivers.

Blogger Fargoth June 30, 2019 10:43 AM  

Your Local Library Probably Facilitates A Pedophile Ring

Seriously, check out your local library and investigate for UN connections. Our local library is led by the widow of a human sacrificed Shriner, is connected to agenda 21 via the Together Initiative, and holds a "queer prom", as well as various other events and clubs for "queers under 18". Other events include "Transforming Families", a meetup for non-traditional families, and Harry Potter sleepovers.

Oh, and displays a neon rainbow sign with a swirly sperm and swirly triangle at the street entrance to the "Friend's Bookstore"

Rochester, Minnesota
Audrey Betcher
Rochester Public Library

Blogger John Rockwell June 30, 2019 10:44 AM  

"It's gay pride, and designing the EU parliament to look like renditions of the Tower of Babel, and the Hansel and Gretel Association, and etc. For some reason, evil has to announce itself. It blows me away."

Since God values free will. Perhaps demons are forced to ensure that those they influence is forced to announce themselves in some way inadvertently.

So that people will have a more stark choice. Likewise this serves the purpose in the fact that complicity ensures greater corruption.

Blogger David Ray Milton June 30, 2019 10:44 AM  

This is another reason I will be homeschooling my son and future children. This is sickening. Glad the Italians are at least taking it seriously.

Blogger Joe Smith June 30, 2019 10:44 AM  

@Avalanche I see what you mean, but it's a dumb argument. Arguing that CPS shouldn't exist doesn't logically entail that therefore you must be alright with murder or child prostitution. At that point the regular legal code can handle it.

Also, murdering children doesn't become A-OK just because the children in question are black.

Blogger binks webelf June 30, 2019 10:46 AM  

Lest we forget...

There was a fearless Georgia State senator-- Nancy Schaefer-- investigating hard into the CPS, when in 2010 she suddenly turned up dead in a "murder-suicide" with her husband, no motive obvious. A suspicious pair of deaths, if not directly Arkancide.

Perhaps Sen. Schaefer was irritating some of the corrupt people involved in abuse, trafficking & sex-trafficking, and police-state behaviour by CPS? Or was she very close to the real badness, and was about to discover and report it? In any case, her report deserves attention, as a snapshot from 11 years ago of a situation revealed to be much worse since then.

RIP, William & Nancy Schaefer Jr.: May you both rest in peace, and rise in glory.

Her Report
http://fightcps.com/pdf/TheCorruptBusinessOfChildProtectiveServices.pdf
"The Corrupt Business of Child Protective Services - report by Senator Nancy Schaefer, September 25, 2008"

Her Wiki Page
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nancy_Schaefer

FightCPS: Child Protective Services-CPS-False Accusations
http://fightcps.com

Blogger Azure Amaranthine June 30, 2019 10:48 AM  

Avalanche, you don't realize that in all of what you said, most of us just read "I want to kill babies."

They may not be us, but they also aren't animals. Being forced to deal with the problem would improve them. Watching them suffer for any stupidity would improve us. Disallowing any toehold for our own to complain that they should get off easy "like x" would also improve us.

Blogger Dave June 30, 2019 10:51 AM  

Also saw last night she tweeted this shortly after the Pedowood is real tweet:

Tiffany FitzHenry @Tiff_FitzHenry
Just watched the view count of this video go from 800 to 8. Guess @Disney is scared of people knowing about what goes on for their child stars and how it all works. For the love of innocent children RETWEET THIS EVERYWHERE. And by the blood of Jesus Christ I rebuke satanic Disney

Blogger Azure Amaranthine June 30, 2019 10:52 AM  

You're on the same side of the street as the pedos on this one Avalanche. You want to destroy children for convenience.

Blogger Fargoth June 30, 2019 10:55 AM  

@45 easy with the links there, steve

Blogger Tars Tarkas June 30, 2019 10:56 AM  

Former Disney star Bella Thorne: "Getting molested from [the age of] 6-14... being abuse all the time...I was being molested....people have no idea the type mistreatment I was dealing with [while a Disney star] that everyone around me saw and did nothing."

If you were molested and you do not publicly name them and go to the police and the FBI, you are no longer a victim, you are a perpetrator. You have a duty to protect the next child. There was nothing special about you besides your age. While they lost interest in you because you aged out, the new little starlet is prime picking.

I have no sympathy for these people who drop hints or even outright say that they were targeted by powerful pedos but will not name names. They are part of the ring and just as guilty as the other perpetrators.

Will the stupid parents of America keep their kids away from everything Disney? Hell no. In a sane world, Disney executives would have been lynched by mobs of angry parents a long time ago.

Blogger tuberman June 30, 2019 11:00 AM  

I went from being a Pat Buchanan Paleo to much more RedPilled from learning about Rotherham Rapes from Woes several years ago.

Activist Gays are some of the worst pervs obviously, as they are insanely destructive, and especially toward the innocent, taking glee at the destruction of any innocents.
Many guys, passing as females in upper Cabal levels are now assigned leader roles.

The Demonic is more and more in close to open shows. Final power plays!

Blogger Doktor Jeep June 30, 2019 11:03 AM  

Just who the hell "buys" a kid?

Blogger Maniac June 30, 2019 11:16 AM  

"Just who the hell 'buys' a kid?"

Angelina Jolie?

Blogger VD June 30, 2019 11:16 AM  

If you were molested and you do not publicly name them and go to the police and the FBI, you are no longer a victim, you are a perpetrator.

That's total nonsense and completely ignores what everyone has seen happen to the kids who have come forward and named names. Nothing ever happens and they end up getting sued for slander because they can't prove anything.

Blogger sammibandit June 30, 2019 11:17 AM  

Height of boomer logic here. Bella is 21 years old and grew up in the industry, her father died in 2007. She had no chance. If we can deduce that uni grads were lied to and they're 21, why not Mouse School grads like Bella? Have some mercy for the girl. She isn't nearly as old as Corey Feldman or MJ.

Blogger VD June 30, 2019 11:18 AM  

I have no sympathy for these people who drop hints or even outright say that they were targeted by powerful pedos but will not name names. They are part of the ring and just as guilty as the other perpetrators.

They were children, you sanctimonious moron. Children cannot consent to being victimized and are innocent of their own abuse. Your position is both monstrous and logically nonsensical.

Blogger sammibandit June 30, 2019 11:18 AM  

Madonna

Blogger SciVo June 30, 2019 11:18 AM  

The children-loving Italians are taking this news with their usual equanimity, of course. I've seen more than a few calls for the death penalty.

You know, if they actually executed child traffickers, I bet Juncker would go back in time to make Italy already gone from the EU. Say, maybe Britain should try that!

Blogger Tars Tarkas June 30, 2019 11:31 AM  

Avalanche wrote:So many of our destructive, uncivilized and uncivilizable black underclass; and the other prolific creators of future problem, the imvaders; have not been created / allowed to be born that our nation, our White, Euro-derived, Christendom, has not quite yet fallen so far, so fast. Can anyone deny that?

I am not sure abortion significantly reduces birth rates in the lower classes. I think it just shifts the births around, particularly from younger women to older women. That if they didn't get the abortions when they were younger, they would just have stayed on birth control when they were older. IOW, if a woman has 3 kids, abortion is just changing which 3 kids she had and at what age. The abortion she had at 18 is offset by the extra kid she had at 30.
Perhaps abortion reduces it slightly, but I seriously doubt that if abortion were illegal there would be 12 million (30%) more black people in the US. . You cannot count every single abortion in the demographic sense.

Blogger Tars Tarkas June 30, 2019 11:33 AM  

VD wrote:They were children, you sanctimonious moron. Children cannot consent to being victimized and are innocent of their own abuse. Your position is both monstrous and logically nonsensical.

They are not children NOW. Yes, they were victims. But to go into public and say there are child molesters infesting Disney and not name them or go to the police is participating.

Blogger sammibandit June 30, 2019 11:33 AM  

I believe duels, a prescription of the old common law for dealing with outlaws, originated in Northern Italy.

I must be silly because I believed it was only Milan that had trafficking problems. Then I realized Trent isn't far from Milan, or Turin where this crime occured. Just how many centuries have cough outsiders cough been trafficking the young in this area?

Afaik the Brothers Grimm gathered stories pointing to what we call trafficking in Northern Italy, Southern Germany, Austria. Right around the area of which we speak. For example, Cinderlla is an Italian story.

Blogger Haus frau June 30, 2019 11:53 AM  

@60 "They are not children NOW. Yes, they were victims. But to go into public and say there are child molesters infesting Disney and not name them or go to the police is participating."

Very arrogant and easy for you to say, much harder for a victim to actaully do. These young adults know who they are up against, that their is no hard proof of their experiences that the authorities could move on but an awful lot of hard repercussions for them if they go public. The abusers are powerful and have access to legal and illegal means of silencing their victims. ....And dont brush aside that kids who have been abused come into adulthood very psychologically damaged and less capable of dealing with a public shit show where their sexual abuse and every part of their personal lives are dragged out for public consumption.

Blogger The Course of Empire June 30, 2019 12:06 PM  

My thoughts exactly. They are truly either lacking in self awareness or they know full well what they really mean when they named it the Hansel and Gretel Association. The fact no one seemed to think, "hey, that's a weird name for a group helping children; wasn't it about a witch luring and trying to eat children?" is a bit disconcerting.

Blogger Tars Tarkas June 30, 2019 12:17 PM  

Haus frau wrote:Very arrogant and easy for you to say, much harder for a victim to actaully do. These young adults know who they are up against, that their is no hard proof of their experiences that the authorities could move on but an awful lot of hard repercussions for them if they go public.

Yes, it is difficult. But if you have specific knowledge that a person who currently has access to children is a child molester and you do nothing, how is this not protecting pedos? How is this any different than the persons she is accusing of knowing about the abuse she endured, but did nothing to stop them?

I was dealing with [while a Disney star] that everyone around me saw and did nothing.

In 10 years there will be yet another former Disney star saying the same things.

Take it down from Disney. When you were 12 a "family friend" was touching you. Now you are 20 and your 12yo sister has been spending time alone with this "family friend"

What is that saying... all it takes for evil to flourish is for good men to do nothing?

Blogger VD June 30, 2019 12:23 PM  

But to go into public and say there are child molesters infesting Disney and not name them or go to the police is participating.

You're a sanctimonious idiot. It most certainly is not "participating" under any definition of the word. Spare us your indignant virtue-signaling. It only makes you look like you've got something to hide.

Blogger MATT June 30, 2019 12:27 PM  

Today you only need to accuse someone and their lives are just about over. Thorne should name names. They all should. Otherwise, it's just more narcissistic twisted virtue signaling. Remember, people think it's an accomplishment to be victimized.

Blogger Haus frau June 30, 2019 12:35 PM  

@64 "Take it down from Disney. When you were 12 a "family friend" was touching you. Now you are 20 and your 12yo sister has been spending time alone with this "family friend"

Common sense. A "family friend" and a connected Disney executive are two very different things. Staying quiet does not make her a participant. There are many practical and morally legitimate reasons for a victim to not come forward. You want to sit on your high horse and call the raped child the same as a pedophile no matter what their circumstances, no matter who raped them . BS.
Any parent who pushed their kid into the Disney machine knows what they are doing at this point. Bella naming names wont deprive the beast of new victims. Adult victims have no obligation to self immolate by naming names, especially when it will very likely change absolutely nothing.

Blogger sammibandit June 30, 2019 12:36 PM  

Respectfully, I believe you answered yourself when you said this,

What is that saying... all it takes for evil to flourish is for good men to do nothing?

Don't take my word for it, take His because I present this with His word in mind.

The good man brings out of his good treasure what is good; and the evil man brings out of his evil treasure what is evil.
Matt 12:35

for he was a good man, and full of the Holy Spirit and of faith And considerable numbers were brought to the Lord.
Acts 11:24

which I am still seeking but have not found. I have found one man among a thousand, but I have not found a woman among all these.
Ecc 7:28


Looks like a good man is Christian. This isn't Bella's job. We also don't know that she is talking or is not talking. She's in such a subculture it's a suburb of hell.

Blogger binks webelf June 30, 2019 12:41 PM  

Vox writes: "The primary difference is that in the USA and Canada, the people running these child trafficking rings never seem to get exposed or arrested."

At least in the U.S. there's some rising awareness. Here in Canada there was some controversy about sexual abuse in the foster-care system about 30 years ago, but since then, mostly silence. Likewise, human trafficking is sometimes mentioned, then public & official awareness fades away.

The True North Strong And Free is remarkably incurious about any such questions as abuse or slavery via social services or Children's Aid Societies (somewhat analagous to CPS), sex-trafficking, kidnapping & human trafficking, and the darker possibilities of the occult or human sacrifice. Never mind asking if predators might be involved as staffers in official positions.

"Out of sight, out of mind. Don't stir things up. All is well."

Blogger sammibandit June 30, 2019 12:46 PM  

Bingo.

The brain isn't finished developing at age 21. She may not have the physical ability to retrieve memories, the ability to put them in working memory, let alone view them from the third perspective and repeat that at will. This is irrespective of any retardation real of fiction in her cognitive function.

It's not uncommon for childhood PTSD victims to only remember (faces in) these memories around age 50 either. Hmmm. More than a few of our faves died around that age...

Blogger dienw June 30, 2019 1:10 PM  

@50
you cannot condemn those who fear being suicided; especially the children being abused.

Blogger furor kek tonicus ( no need to be racist, Ratchets can Karen better than anybody ) June 30, 2019 1:23 PM  

60. Tars Tarkas June 30, 2019 11:33 AM
But to go into public and say there are child molesters infesting Disney and not name them or go to the police is participating.



so, you completely discount the possibility that people might be murdered for trying to prosecute what's happening?

Bryan Singer has been an open secret for 20 years now and has still not been convicted.

here's a couple of WD executives:

Joe Rohde
https://media.bizj.us/view/img/10871994/joe-rhode*1200xx3865-2174-0-190.jpg

Bob Weis
https://dcpi.disney.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/leadership_bob_weis_thumbnail_121318.jpg

Blogger Tars Tarkas June 30, 2019 2:17 PM  

Haus frau wrote:dult victims have no obligation to self immolate by naming names, especially when it will very likely change absolutely nothing.

Then they should just keep quiet about it.
I don't know why this is not completely obvious, but I am not blaming ALL victims. I understand that some people just want to forget about it and never say anything and I don't blame them for feeling that way. But this woman is in public using her platform to chastise the people who did not help her, while protecting the same exact people who were protected when they were abusing her.
Child sex abuse victims very often feel guilt and shame and never tell anyone let alone appearing on some kind of live show and using it offensively. For these people I have nothing but sympathy.

@66 Yeah, I think there is some of that going on here.


If she was afraid of being murdered, she probably wouldn't say anything at all.

Blogger justaguy June 30, 2019 2:26 PM  

After the day care child abuse hysteria of the late 1980s,early 1990s, it is hard to get anyone in the US to accept as credible conspiracy rings. The nation-wide hysteria that swept the US back then, followed by its unmasking as abuses by prosecutors seeking power left a reluctance for all adults of those times to view these skeptically.

AFAIK, the vast majority of these 1880-1990s witch hunts were unfounded. The available evidence of abuse of the kids by the police interrogators -- hours of repeating stories and denials until kid's finally agree and then destroying the hours of conflicting taped testimony.- leads one to believe that this was prosecutors looking for political advancement. Prosecutors publically burning witches (here child molestor, later company executives) for political gain and future offices has been common in America since its founding.

These sure inoculated the US to any further views of such conspiracies...

Blogger furor kek tonicus ( no need to be racist, Ratchets can Karen better than anybody ) June 30, 2019 2:30 PM  

73. Tars Tarkas June 30, 2019 2:17 PM
If she was afraid of being murdered, she probably wouldn't say anything at all.



or, she's not afraid of being murdered because she hasn't named any specific people or testified to evidence of any actionable crimes.

Disney is known to hire men ALREADY CONVICTED of pedophilic rape. that's not even up for debate.

i wonder how many of the Disney execs have spent time at Epstein's island with Kevin Spacey?

Blogger Haus frau June 30, 2019 2:33 PM  

@73 "Then they should just keep quiet about it."
Why exactly? Maybe she coming forward to the extent she feels capable. Who are you to make that decision for her? You don't know what is going behind the scenes with her.

Blogger sammibandit June 30, 2019 2:38 PM  

Tars, she is closer to a girl than she is to a woman. I don't know how old you are but if you're older than 21 you surely know how silly 21 year olds are. That's just normal ones too.

Look at the 5 minute clip binks shared,

Jamie Dlux: Even a Thorne is Beautiful

She's unfocused her eyes the whole time and sits as close to fetal position as she can on a stage. She doesn't doll up her voice, which is something her critics make fun of, and she's clearly trying to say something despite all this. What can you reasonably expect from her?

Child sex abuse victims very often feel guilt and shame and never tell anyone let alone appearing on some kind of live show and using it offensively. For these people I have nothing but sympathy.

Oof. Did you listen to what she was saying? She's mentally stuck on repeat. She can't get off that one track.

Blogger ZhukovG June 30, 2019 2:39 PM  

@Tars Tarkas: That's a mighty fine hole you've dug there. Ya think it's deep enough yet? Or do you want to dig some more?

Blogger sammibandit June 30, 2019 2:42 PM  

AFAIK, the vast majority of these 1880-1990s witch hunts were unfounded. The available evidence of abuse of the kids by the police interrogators -- hours of repeating stories and denials until kid's finally agree and then destroying the hours of conflicting taped testimony.- leads one to believe that this was prosecutors looking for political advancement. Prosecutors publically burning witches (here child molestor, later company executives) for political gain and future offices has been common in America since its founding.

:gets rotten vegetables ready and the wooden spoon:

Blogger binks webelf June 30, 2019 3:00 PM  

Dear Lord God that's a chilling link to past issues with Jordan Peterson you provided above, Vox.

http://voxday.blogspot.com/2018/08/mailvox-on-hunt.html

It REALLY does make you wonder, not to mention the massive cover up in Cornwall, and at Peterson's own university. Ugh.

The scandals blow up, and then just vanish into the Before-Time. As I said in my other comment, Canada is kinda slow & clueless and unwilling to look deeply & seriously into such matters, at the local or provincial or federal level.

Word has it that Ottawa itself, the Nation's Capital, is a hub of underage picture viewing, and child fiddling.

With the way he acts, it also makes you wonder if Justin Glorious Leader as not fiddled, or MK-ULTRAed, or both. His father was very much a rumoured creeper, as have been some of Justin's friends, acquaintance, and associates. One of JT's main fundraisers is a Bronfman, whose sister was funding NXIVM.

Blogger Tars Tarkas June 30, 2019 3:31 PM  

sammibandit wrote:Tars, she is closer to a girl than she is to a woman. I don't know how old you are but if you're older than 21 you surely know how silly 21 year olds are. That's just normal ones too.

I didn't know she was only 20 or 21. She looks older than that in this clip. She has apparently said it wasn't anyone at Disney.


I am willing to think perhaps I am being too judgemental about it. It is just revolting to me to think that someone who could stop something like this would not, especially if it is because of career considerations.

Blogger Wolfman June 30, 2019 3:43 PM  

@80 I don't believe Justin is a pedo himself but one of his closest friends was arrested as part of cp ring. He also shows the occasional sign of having been abused as a child.

Blogger Haus frau June 30, 2019 4:59 PM  

@81 "
I am willing to think perhaps I am being too judgemental about it. It is just revolting to me to think that someone who could stop something like this would not, especially if it is because of career considerations."

If this was corey Feldman I'd be in complete agreement with you. I think that is what you are thinking this woman is doing. Feldman has obviously a deal with the devil's that abused him and is only using his experience for attention and money.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash June 30, 2019 5:06 PM  

Tars Tarkas wrote:I am willing to think perhaps I am being too judgemental about it. It is just revolting to me to think that someone who could stop something like this would not, especially if it is because of career considerations.
Children who are molested grow into broken adults, if they live that long. Would you cast into hell a 20-yo suicide swho had been molested by dozens or hundreds of men, passed around like a party favor for the rich and powerful? Coming forward with this information is more difficult than suicide, as proven by the relatively more common outcome.
She's been raped tortured, brainwashed, and as likely as not hypnotized. She is living in a probably very real fear of shame, humiliation, ritual torture and murder.
She's incredibly together and courageous to even say as much as she has. Almost none ever do.

Blogger Jeroth June 30, 2019 5:08 PM  

"Hansel and Gretel Association"

They really do love hiding in plain sight.

Blogger Rough Carrigan June 30, 2019 5:34 PM  

#38, if you think those are bizarre and disgusting architectural choices, have a look at the Paul VI auditorium in Vatican City featuring a truly weird (at best) statue of Christ behind the pulpit and, seen from the back of the auditorium, oh yeah, it looks like you're facing a snake.
No biggee just satanic looking shit as the home turf of the Pople.

Blogger James Fox Higgins June 30, 2019 5:56 PM  

Maybe "Gingerbread Rehousing" would have been a more appropriate business name for these sick devils.

Blogger tublecane June 30, 2019 6:11 PM  

I had no idea who Bella Thorne was until I saw images of some sourpussed exhibitionist hipster type appear unprompted before my eyes a number of times. Presumably poor general attitude and haphazard grooming habits are signs of previous abuse.

Blogger Meng Greenleaf June 30, 2019 6:57 PM  

I feel that currently, E. Asians place more culture value on children and on protecting them (both mind and body). Ironically, Chinese can be cruel on many levels, to dogs and cats as an example - but culturally they are expected to guard their children. So they do.

I don't think you'd find many E. Asian parents who'd trust a film producer or director alone with their 8 year old daughter. How did it come to happen in the West? I believe the conditioning starts with 'daycare' and then public school. People get used to putting their kids in the care of strangers. Maybe E. Asians will change in time and come to mirror post-modern Western "societies" as 'mommy have to focus on herself now....'? It will be interesting to see how things play out.

Regardless, right now the post-Western world is a hugely dangerous place for children lower down on the socioeconomic ladder. Without fathers, church or community, they're very vulnerable.

Blogger sammibandit June 30, 2019 7:03 PM  

Bless you, Tars.

Blogger William Marron June 30, 2019 8:19 PM  

Of course it is much harder to prove any sort of crime in the US. Multiculturalism has been doing to our system for over a century what it has managed to do in the UK even with a much smaller scale of immigration.

You can't chase any leads or make any accusations because there is always the fog of ethnic political warfare to contend with.

Blogger Jack Amok June 30, 2019 8:42 PM  

AFAIK, the vast majority of these 1880-1990s witch hunts were unfounded. The available evidence of abuse of the kids by the police interrogators -- hours of repeating stories and denials until kid's finally agree and then destroying the hours of conflicting taped testimony.- leads one to believe that this was prosecutors looking for political advancement.

Or possibly prosecutors muddying the waters to distract from real abuse. Children being abused by the foster care system, or by political insiders and (((executives)))? Have a big show trial to go after a day care center run by some Christian looking White folks.

I don't think you'd find many E. Asian parents who'd trust a film producer or director alone with their 8 year old daughter.

Of course not, East Asians come from a low-trust society, they don't expect anyone outside their clan to be trustworthy. They don't care more about their kids, they're just better adapted to live in a society with a large number of people who aren't White Christians.

Blogger Up from the pond June 30, 2019 11:00 PM  

Tars Tarkas wrote:Then they should just keep quiet about it.

Don't worry, Tars. They do.

Blogger Meng Greenleaf June 30, 2019 11:06 PM  

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2735809

Wow gang, looks like we have a Scooby Doo mystery!

"Mommy's got to look after herself sweetie. Tell Chester the 40 year old gay daycare nurse aid that I'll be picking you up pretty late tonight. Maybe he could get you showered up so I don't have to? Anyway, got networking to do with the guys so, I'll be home late. Mommy's fighting the Patriarchy. Have fun."

"Oh my Gawd Sally, like, thankfully Chester gets it. He's got little Max all dressed up in skirts and make-up. Like, no one's going to gender stereotype my little Hero."

"Did you hear about little gender queer Maxine (Max was Zher Dead Name)? Apparently Zhe cut Zher dick off before s*cking a 0.12 guage. Let's check out the artfully arranged Instagram photos together with greave quotes".

"She's so brave."

"So Progressive."

Yup, just one big Scooby Doo mystery gang.... I guess we'll never know why Gen Z is comitting suicide at unprecedented levels never seen since the hell that was World War II ... .....

---
Sorry, this little scene played out in my head when thinking about all this. Here's to hoping Dysgenics makes most of these pedo-cucks infertile....


Incidentally, I was visiting colleagues in Australia when someone said: We love Japan. It's the best place on Earth. So clean and safe and everything is orderly. I replied that's because it's a racially homogeneous nation. Kind of a conversation stopper 😅 I then mentioned women often retire at age 30 to properly raise their families. In for a penny, in for a pound 😁

Blogger Haus frau June 30, 2019 11:20 PM  

@94 the Japanese are the british isles of east asia. Very high trust, island society.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd July 01, 2019 12:07 AM  

Meng Greenleaf wrote:I feel that currently, E. Asians place more culture value on children and on protecting them (both mind and body).

They care about their own children. Only their own. They'll kick other peoples' starving babies off the sidewalk, unless they think there's a market...

Blogger weka July 01, 2019 12:16 AM  

Stakes. Vlad Yepes did nothing wrong.

Blogger weka July 01, 2019 12:24 AM  

Canadian familes are frightened of children's aid, who pull kids if you do not follow their agenda.

Blogger Paul M July 01, 2019 5:14 AM  

Vilest of all, the foster homes want these kids to get government entitlements. It's not like they are being adopted to loving couples desperate for a child - not that that would excuse it. The kids will be stuffed under the stairs, beaten and starved by people to whom actually having to take the kid is an imposition. Some will also be used as child labour. And some - your guessed it - will be raped and prostituted. It's evil all the way along at every link in the chain.

Blogger binks webelf July 01, 2019 10:08 AM  

So utterly heartbreaking. We know what God says about caring for widows & orphans.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trafficking-fostercare/without-family-u-s-children-in-foster-care-easy-prey-for-human-traffickers-idUSKBN1I40OM
Without family, U.S. children in foster care easy prey for human traffickers

Blogger Terrific July 01, 2019 9:35 PM  

As both a former foster parent and a Court Appointed Special Advocate for children in foster care (CASA), I feel safe in saying the idea of renegade case workers taking children unfairly from their families, while possible in the past and in some jurisdiction perhaps still much too easy, today there are many more safeguards in place.

Not only is every parent or guardian whose child has been taken away provided free legal representation, many times these lawyers are very good at their jobs. Some are as zealous as Johnny Cochran defending OJ. I am in family court fairly regularly, sometimes several times a month, and I am satisfied these parents are being adequately represented. For free.

Next, there's me and my compadres in CASA.

CASA is a nationwide organization of volunteers, trained by the Family Court Division of the Supreme Court in every state. Family court judges seek to appoint a CASA in every child custody case IF one is available. Sadly, in my area there is one CASA for approximately every ten children in foster care.

I tell people, "We (CASAs) fill the cracks children fall between."

I can't say nothing bad every happens to children in foster care. But I can say things have been changing for the better over the almost 30 years I've been involved off and on in the system.

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