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Saturday, June 15, 2019

What's good for Google

Is most definitely NOT good for America. It's more than a bit ironic that Pichai Sundararajan is appealing to the very sort of white Christian male innovation that Google observably hates in trying to prevent Google from being broken up:
Google's CEO has made an appeal that the company should not be broken up, as federal regulators and Congress are directing increasing scrutiny at the tech goliath.

Google's massive size allows it to invest in future technologies without worrying about 'short-term profits,' CEO Sundar Pichai insisted in an interview with CNN Business on Thursday.

'Scale does offer many benefits, it's important to understand that,' argued Pichai. 'Big companies are what are investing in technologies like AI the most.'

Pichai even hinted that if Google were subject to antitrust regulation, it would spell doom for American innovation, allowing competitors like China to seize the advantage.
The amount of contempt that Pichai has for Americans can be seen in this appeal to the benefits of Google's monopoly position. If only AT&T and Standard Oil had been clever enough to argue that their monopolies were actually beneficial.....

I have considerably more confidence in Chinese communists than in US-citizen corporatists. Say what you will about communists, but at least they are atheists that don't actively worship the devil.

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Blogger doctrev June 15, 2019 4:53 PM  

Given how Google actively submits every time China demands something from them, the naked threat of doom is breathtaking mainly for its sheer hypocritical malevolence.

Pichai is not only a poster boy for how immigrants can seek to supplant the native population, but Chinese finance and entertainment are much less likely to be as completely toxic as the "American" varieties.

Blogger #0379 June 15, 2019 4:56 PM  

"... at least they are atheists that don't actively worship the devil."

Ouch!

Blogger kurt9 June 15, 2019 5:06 PM  

I believe its called "chutzpah". Especially when the James Damore and subsequent affairs make abundantly obvious that Google no longer has either the human capital or the corporate culture to do the kind of innovation he touts as public benefit.

Blogger kurt9 June 15, 2019 5:08 PM  

I still believe a better, and much easier, approach to dealing with the social media giants is to use the current 1996 law against them by declaring them to be publishers rather than content-neutral platforms, thus subjecting them to the legal liabilities of being publishers. Unlike efforts to break them up, no additional legislation would be necessary to do this.

Blogger Gregory the Tall June 15, 2019 5:16 PM  

What he did not mention: Google's massive size also allows it to give SJWs a free hand without worrying about short-term profits. If you break up Google, the parts might have to struggle to remain profitable.

Blogger P Glenrothes June 15, 2019 5:22 PM  

Fiat currency, fiat values, fiat everything.

Blogger Rhys June 15, 2019 5:47 PM  

"Big companies are what are invest in things like AI the most."

As if that's a good thing...

Blogger God Emperor Memes June 15, 2019 5:50 PM  

Are Indians reincarnated cuckoos?

Blogger Ransom Smith June 15, 2019 5:55 PM  

argued Pichai. 'Big companies are what are investing in technologies like AI the most.'
Do people still buy the idea that AI is a thing?
It's VI at very best. And that's assuming it hasn't been unplugged for perceived racism.

Blogger Ska_Boss June 15, 2019 6:17 PM  

If you are afraid of antitrust laws and being broken up into smaller companies that have to deal with competition and threaten that it will hurt the innovation of the country you happen to reside in, you might me a monopoly.

And who gives a shit about AI anyways, the only people that would benefit from machines that know how to act like people are massive corporations that use botnets for their own financial gain and to push fake trends, like Google.

I hope the Trump administration brings down the hammer hard.

Blogger Bob Loblaw June 15, 2019 6:20 PM  

Google finds itself without friends. They've been actively working against conservatives and Republicans, and the Democrats have decided Youtube is responsible for Trump's election.

Couldn't happen to a nice group of foreigners pretending to be Americans.

Blogger tublecane June 15, 2019 6:23 PM  

A pleasant expression of the Robber Baron mindset. Rockefeller or his people probably justified themselves to the public by way of charitable giving and Good Works. But this is strange, the idea that technology needs an economy of scale, and that people in charge of largescale R&D should be them because...well, because they exist right now, I guess.

I am reminded of the portrayal of George Hearst on the t.v. show Deadwood. He uses all manner of underhanded methods, including murder and election-rigging, to secure gold claims in the area. He justifies himself by saying he prefers efficiency and an economy of scale. He abhors waste.

Maybe gold is mined more efficiently under his command than in a hundred little hands. But we all know the point is that profit makes its way into his pocket.

Blogger Don't Call Me Len June 15, 2019 6:24 PM  

it would spell doom for American innovation

What's so "innovative" about buying up smaller companies to co-opt (or stifle) their technology? What "innovation" has Google ever launched?

Blogger OneWingedShark June 15, 2019 6:25 PM  

Ska_Boss wrote:I hope the Trump administration brings down the hammer hard.
That likely won't happen — Trump seems to vastly prefer the "master negotiator" gloves.

But, if he was willing to shake things up, it would be better to do a multi-pronged legal attack: anti-trust, RICO, and espionage; all three, hitting at once.

Blogger Rocklea Marina June 15, 2019 6:38 PM  

At the very least, separate these components:
Mail server
Search engine
Office suite
Operating system
Data centre

Then further separate by nation. That dingo stole my mail.

Blogger Silent Draco June 15, 2019 7:06 PM  

"Google, how do I go back?"

Blogger MichaelJMaier June 15, 2019 7:17 PM  

Standard Oil and ALCOA constantly reduced the cost of the final product to the consumer before they were broken up. And IIRC, breaking them up actually increased consumer prices.

Blogger Jack (LJCSOGHMOMAS) June 15, 2019 7:32 PM  

It appears that Google is American when it suits them, and global i.e. not American when it suits them. Reminds me of somebody else.

Regarding Chinese companies, they are subservient to the state, but since that state more or less serves the interests of its people, that situation is in no way worse than fake American companies with zero loyalty or patriotism who regard Americans as just another consumer base. This is part of why I think the whole approach to the trade war is misguided. To say that "we" are competing with China on tech and trade raises the question of just who "we" are. China knows who they are. But America doesn't.

Blogger Damelon Brinn June 15, 2019 7:36 PM  

Aside from the question of whether AI research is snake oil to fleece investors and the public, why would Americans trust important future tech research to companies with a manifest lack of national loyalty? Does he expect us to believe his company wouldn't gladly sell their new AI to the Chinese or anyone else in a second if they got the right deal?

I'm impressed by how fast this is moving. When they first started openly talking anti-trust, I thought it might be a years-long process, but clearly the Trump admin was already rolling on this.

Blogger Welleran June 15, 2019 7:43 PM  

"Google's massive size allows it to invest in future technologies without worrying about 'short-term profits"

Historically doesn't that role typically go to governments? If Google wants to put itself forward as the vanguard of American infrastructure I say we make them foot the bill for the collapsing infrastructure we already have.

Blogger Argus Bacchus June 15, 2019 7:55 PM  

"Pichai even hinted that if Google were subject to antitrust regulation, it would spell doom for American innovation..."

Just like how all communication innovation stopped after AT&T's consent decree in the early '80's

Sure, pal.

Pikachu Pichai really should be looking forward to the coming scrutiny and its possible aftermath. It might allow him to spend more time with his wife and her boyfriend.

Blogger TRS June 15, 2019 8:53 PM  

I have considerably more confidence in Chinese communists than in US-citizen corporatists. Say what you will about communists, but at least they are atheists that don't actively worship the devil. VD

Remember this.......

Blogger JAG June 16, 2019 12:59 AM  

Argus Bacchus wrote:

Pikachu Pichai


Instead of "gotta catch 'em all" it's "Gotta send 'em all back!"

Blogger Jim the Curmudgeon June 16, 2019 2:08 AM  

I absolutely detest that gimply, estrogen-laden pajeet. Lying to a congressional committee about Google's ability to alter search results manually isn't the only thing that makes me want to hurl every time I see him.

The simple fact (and I say this with significant knowledge) is that Google doesn't innovate much anymore. Most of their big hits were acquisitions, such as Google Maps and Android. Most of their own products are flops, such as Google+. Even when they do buy companies, it often goes awry. They overspent on Waze, making me think it was handout to an Israeli company, and then they overspent on Nest. As soon as they brought Nest in-house, it crashed and burned. Motorola's acquisition was likewise a disaster.

Their big cash cow is advertising, and they are determined to make 50% of their user base uncomfortable by censoring, deplatforming, and openly backing left wing causes.

Blogger LSWCHP June 16, 2019 5:25 AM  

To hell with this idiot invader. And I mean that very sincerely. I really, really want him to go there, or at least back to his Kwik-E-Mart where he belongs. I use DuckDuckGo for search and Protonmail for email. Soon to ditch Android. I hate Google with a passion.

Blogger Franz Lyonheart June 16, 2019 6:08 AM  

@24, @25. Couldn't agree more with both of you. Bit paradox I'm using my Google Blogger account for that....., in enemy territory, I guess. 😁

Blogger OGRE June 16, 2019 6:45 AM  

The meme that technological innovation only happens through massive economies of scale needs to die. The vast majority of inventions and tech advancements throughout history have been done by individuals working alone or in small groups. Economies of scale may well affect manufacture and distribution of technology--and even that is debatable as to the extent it is necessary or beneficial--but the truth is the largest firms in a market generally suck at innovation. They don't feel the pressure to truly innovate, their resources go to expanding their current market and disincentivizing potential competitors, usually through means other than research and development; its the individuals and smaller firms that must innovate in order to capture a share of the market.
Aren't we daily reminded how even Steve Jobs, Bill Gates, Elon Musk, and Jeff Bezos all started out in a garage somewhere? Did da Vinci, the Wright brothers, Bell, Marconi, Pasteur, Tesla, Edison, Watt, and Gutenberg all need international corporations financing their research and innovation?

Blogger JG June 16, 2019 9:30 AM  

The real purpose of anti-trust is to break up companies that have too much political power, not too much market power. Anti-trust is a political process, always.

Blogger sammibandit June 16, 2019 9:38 AM  

>I have considerably more confidence in Chinese communists than in US-citizen corporatists. Say what you will about communists, but at least they are atheists that don't actively worship the devil.

General aside. My oma's reports about communist-rule during WWII are filled with happy memories. The communists gave her shoes so she could go to school in winter for the first time in her life. She would chant in school with the other kids "Stalin, Stalin give us bread", and soldiers would rush in--even through the windows--with bread. She didn't get a lot to eat at home. She didn't have to go to movie nights at home to report on her family or neighbors like she did under nazi-rule.

I realize this is all anedata but the facts can be independently verified. Communism got the importance of education correct even if the implementation is incorrect, and I have a very hard time finding giving poor kids shoes or food incorrect.

Blogger sammibandit June 16, 2019 9:39 AM  

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>She didn't have to go to movie nights to report on her family or neighbors like she did under nazi-rule.

Blogger binks webelf June 16, 2019 9:55 AM  

India has a serious social issue with their caste, and possibly with immigrants bringing their cultural assumptions to the West with them. If there are garbage people (Untouchables) who are treated as barely human in India, why can't Google thus have an digital ethnic cleansing of wrong-think filth like most of the population who won't woke on command?

This is, of course, speculation. However, the Christian West is the home of the idea that all men are created equally, in the imago dei (Genesis, image of God). The secularists think human rights popped up out of nowhere, of course, but they are ignorant of their own civilization.

Alongside Pichai Sundararajan, our radical Leftist are now fully wedded to the notion that only the loudest victim classes have rights or full humanity, and the rest are subhuman and evil. Funny how the paganism & caste system comes back to the fore via the 'progressive' Left, isn't it?

Blogger sammibandit June 16, 2019 11:22 AM  

Radical leftists and converged Churchians love targeting Dalits in India. They're converting them whether the Dalits understand the conversion or not. Many of those converting Dalits are African Christians as per reports from several contacts in the Indian manosphere.

This is obviously a problem for brothers and sisters in Christ as well since Catholic, Orthodox, or Protestant we take seriously the mature, thoughtful and even-minded decision to take the creed.

In a Hindu and Buddhist indigenous country, where these religions are for discussion purposes synonymous with ethnicity, conversion can be seen as a national security problem. Certainly near Pakistan and Bangladesh this is realized more fully than in the south where most of the Dalits are. But don't take my word for it, ask a Hindu or Buddhist from India for verification or find them on the internet.

India is also having problems with African drug dealers. Unlike Americans and Europeans, Indians are not at all shy talking about Africans and how dumb and criminal they are.

Blogger DonReynolds June 16, 2019 11:50 AM  

Of course, AT&T and Standard Oil did not target individual Americans based on political or social viewpoints to be banned or denied the corporate services. But it is an interesting comparison.

Suppose John D. Rockefeller had his own list of communists, anarchists, socialists, and social radicals who were banned from buying motor fuel and lubricants. Being good pals, AT&T could use the same list of deplorables to make sure they never had a telephone either in their home or business and could not use a pay phone. No means no, after all. Keep your nickle. We don't want what you (might) have to say over Western Electric telephones. You are banned from our services. It would be difficult to work in the public eye and never be able to use a telephone. A truck or car would be rendered useless if they could not buy motor fuel or lubricants.

If that is the world that the Leftist Radicals want (at Google, Twitter, Yahoo, et al), I am sure they will get it....good and hard, only they won't like it when THEY get on the list. They may love the idea of their big brother being the hall monitor until their enemies become the hall monitors.

Anti-trust? Hell yes....with the same hollow eyes and righteousness that they have had for years already. Serve it cold and do not let them up easy. They have much to atone for.

Blogger DonReynolds June 16, 2019 12:11 PM  

JG wrote:The real purpose of anti-trust is to break up companies that have too much political power, not too much market power. Anti-trust is a political process, always.

You are correct.
No case demonstrates this more than the case of the merger between Brown Shoe and Kinney Shoe, which was blocked for anti-trust reasons even to the US Supreme Court in 1962. Brown was a shoe manufacturer and Kinney was a chain of retail shoe stores, but they only constituted FIVE percent of the shoe industry in the US, yet the merger was blocked on grounds it would lessen competition in the shoe industry.

This is not the only example of anti-trust laws being applied. There are plenty of text books of horror stories, detailing how the government has moved against sellers without protecting the marketplace or the public from monopoly abuse.

Since 1985, the Justice Department has decided to look the other way while various parts of the new computer industry became monopolies... that were actually abusive. The more recent uses of monopoly power to exclude and snuff out those with whom they disagree socially or politically is only capricious, arbitrary, and malicious. The victims of their abuse have a long memory.

Blogger Balkan Yankee June 16, 2019 12:19 PM  

The Pastel Mafia is afraid.

Blogger Maniac June 16, 2019 12:45 PM  

"If that is the world that the Leftist Radicals want (at Google, Twitter, Yahoo, et al), I am sure they will get it....good and hard, only they won't like it when THEY get on the list."

A "journalist" named David Neiwart was recently banned from Twitter because one of his Tweets contained a still image of his latest literary abortion, which has little KKK hats in place of the stars on the American flag.

Like Apollo Creed once said, some folks have to learn the hard way.

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