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Friday, August 09, 2019

Another Hollywood revenge fantasy

Only this time it's Americans rather than Nazis like in Inglourious Bastards:
NBC Universal Pictures still plans to release The Hunt about 'liberal elites' kidnapping 'deplorables' from red states and killing them for sport despite backlash in the wake of mass shootings. NBC Universal is still pushing ahead with plans to release the movie The Hunt. Movie is about liberal elites kidnapping and hunting MAGA types for sport in the upcoming political satire.
Hollywood hates, hates, hates Americans, and hates American Christians in particular because Hollywood is owned and run by Paper American satanists. If you still can't understand this, if you still can't accept this, you're probably not going to get it until you are actually being hunted by them and their proxies.

Meanwhile, actual mass shootings are being committed by their co-religionists.
Their screams music, their pain my pleasure.' Dayton shooter's demonic notebook scrawls reveal he fantasized about massacres, 'hunting' for humans, craved marijuana and speed, called himself a sociopath and hailed Lucifer. Betts' rambling contributions, written around 2017, include a Satanic pentagram with the words 'Hail Lucifer' and numerous references to death and murder. The warped loner declares himself a servant of 'evil incarnate' and rants about everything from schizophrenia to satanic rituals and massacres.
The only problem that NBC Universal Pictures has with the Dayton shooter is that he didn't target white Christians. This post is directly connected to the previous one, because the movie represents what the satanists intend to do to Americans if Americans are foolish enough to permit themselves to be disarmed.

How can one enter into a strong man's house, and spoil his goods, except he first bind the strong man? and then he will spoil his house. He that is not with me is against me.
- Matthew 12:30

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Blogger camcleat August 09, 2019 8:18 AM  

By making and promoting this movie, they are seeking to further normalize open violence against white, Christian Americans.

If they can get the masses, even white, ostensibly Christian masses, to accept this as "normal" and acceptable, it's game-on.

They are testing the public opinion waters, and when there's a backlash against it, they'll scream "Free Speech!"

Blogger Salt August 09, 2019 8:24 AM  

Firearm sales are again skyrocketing.

Blogger Matt August 09, 2019 8:24 AM  

I watched the trailer because I was curious and the people they capture (the deplorables) kind of seem like the good guys. Not sure what to make of this, maybe I'm missing something.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan August 09, 2019 8:27 AM  

I don't think it is as blatant as that, I caught some dialog they try and fuzz the morality a bit, but yeah it's a suck ass attempt at demonization. Of course the Gentlecons who will refuse to the point of death to contest the Left on the moral level will rationalize it with gentle scoldings on the intellectual level and do the usual Vichy surrender, but good news I think that script is all but done.

Bigger news is that junkie Tommy Lee of old Boomerband Motley Crue reposted a rant which was rather blood thirsty and one the kook left has eaten up in the last year. The twittercons are doing their usual huff and puff but let us please be rational when in fact the best response to shit like this is to say "Tommy Lee you drug adled POS say it louder."

Blogger JG August 09, 2019 8:27 AM  

Matt wrote:I watched the trailer because I was curious and the people they capture (the deplorables) kind of seem like the good guys. Not sure what to make of this, maybe I'm missing something.

It's purpose is the normalization of violence against Christian Nationalists.

Blogger LZ August 09, 2019 8:32 AM  

@3 "In the shadow of a dark internet conspiracy theory, a group of globalist elites gathers for the very first time at a remote Manor House to hunt humans for sport. But the elites' master plan is about to be derailed because one of the hunted, Crystal (Betty Gilpin, GLOW), knows The Hunters game better than they do. She turns the tables on the killers, picking them off, one by one, as she makes her way toward the mysterious woman (two-time Oscar winner Hilary Swank) at the center of it all."

It looks more like a kill-them-all movie. The fact that they have globalist elites as the villains plays into the MAGA meme set. Maybe its a MeToo movie that murders deplorables and male elites both.

You can definitely take something from the marketing, but not necessarily the content. Yet. It's Hollywood after all.

Blogger LZ August 09, 2019 8:34 AM  

@5 maybe its like a 1787 movie about the French aristocracy murdering starving peasants by overfeeding them cake

Blogger Carl B. August 09, 2019 8:39 AM  

Hey Hollyweird: What happens when the hunters become the hunted? BLOAT, folks.

Blogger bodenlose Schweinerei August 09, 2019 8:42 AM  

the controversial film was divisive back in May 2018 when film chief Donna Langley acquired the script and fast tracked it on a $18 million budget.

They probably had to replace the seat upholstery when she heard about it.

Blogger Nate August 09, 2019 8:46 AM  

meh. in movies like this the killers are the bad guys. the maga folks will win in the end. if it breaks that pattern and is really just a slaughterfest... then we can judge it appropriately. horror movies are always hyped by pushing the bad guys.

Blogger Damelon Brinn August 09, 2019 9:04 AM  

It's not unusual for the trailer for a movie to hide the wokeness that will be in the full product. Same thing happens with the first episode/season of TV shows, that are frequently played straight to draw in the mainstream audience, and then the degeneracy is turned up later.

Even if the trailer looks like MAGA underdog heroes being hunted by evil elites, all they have to do is throw in some lines about the MAGA types committing crimes that brought it on, maybe have them do some terroristic things to the elites and make a couple of the elites sympathetic characters, maybe have The Man (or The Woman) behind the elites be a secret MAGA who's been manipulating them all, and it's flipped.

Leftists will eat up the fantasy either way, because they don't grok irony.

Blogger Harry_the_Horrible August 09, 2019 9:05 AM  

If I'm not mistaken, the surviving Deplorables turn the tables on the elitists hunting them.
Also, they're the underdogs and therefore the heroes of the story.
So, unless there is a twist ending (and we haven't seen it yet...) folks are getting worked up over nothing.

Blogger Sologamer August 09, 2019 9:07 AM  

You miss the point Nate. Social divisions are highlighted and deepened, violence is foreshadowed, the leftists thrill to and chuckle over deaths of Trump voters on screen even if the killers are the "bad guys".
And note that the two leads are female. No conservative white male or young adolescent boy will see his avatar on screen. Verboten.

Blogger Longtime Lurker August 09, 2019 9:11 AM  

@1: "By making and promoting this movie, they are seeking to further normalize open violence against white, Christian Americans."

TPTB behind the Hunt could not have picked a better vehicle and a worse time to stoke resistance to gun control.

The reactions on this blog and elsewhere prove that.

And The Hunt hasn't even hit the theaters yet.

On a more general note: The Late Great State of Colorado passed Red Flag laws not too long ago. This provoked a major backlash from rural country sheriffs/commissions who say they will not enforce it.

A similar reaction happened in Washington State when Gov. Inslee rammed through new gun laws.

Two prominent Blue States are now fractured along Urban/Rural lines because TPTB in those states overreached on guns.

Blogger Sologamer August 09, 2019 9:11 AM  

Propaganda always has a layer of deception so people eat it up. There's never going to be a movie of good guy liberals simply killing evil white males for sport with no layers of irony or deniability. That's how propaganda works.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan August 09, 2019 9:12 AM  

They are counting on us to market the film for them, kind of like that goofy Mad Max movie, all the usual outrage shtick from the Manosphere when it turned out to be a run of the mill action crap overlayed upon a small bit of philosophy - Warlord was nature, Band of Chickies was nurture.

Blogger Watchu talkin bout Willis August 09, 2019 9:12 AM  

Why must I read a British publication (Daily Mail, etc.) to get the truth behind things happening in America?

Because the media here is complicit in pushing "The Narrative."

Blogger Purge187 August 09, 2019 9:12 AM  

"The only problem that NBC Universal Pictures has with the Dayton shooter is that he didn't target white Christians."

Or that he wasn't a White Christian himself.

Blogger Katusov August 09, 2019 9:23 AM  

I will not go to the theater to see this film. Although remote, this kind of film could bring out a crazy person from either side of the aisle, one who has murder on their mind. After these recent shootings the ambient risk is higher. I would also think twice before going to a plex where it is playing. If you feel you got to see this thing, wait for the Red Box edition. Get somebody else to pay for the rental, if you can.

Blogger Damelon Brinn August 09, 2019 9:25 AM  

Speaking of movies, AG Barr recently did an interview where he said justice isn't something that comes from the criminal justice system, but a truth that we have a hardwired sense of (I'm paraphrasing from memory). He cited Dirty Harry and Death Wish as examples that appeal to our sense of justice. I like that guy.

Blogger Longtime Lurker August 09, 2019 9:28 AM  

@15: "Propaganda always has a layer of deception so people eat it up."

The MAGA Peeps win in the movie (so it's said), but that's a theatrical outcome designed to stoke the determination of the Militant Left to make certain that the MAGA Peeps do not win in the meat world.

And the people who produced the Hunt have to pretend that what I just wrote is not true.

Blogger sammibandit August 09, 2019 9:37 AM  

It's not like NBCUniversal has a problem with Trump. This isn't personal at all and everyone knows that media giant is totally reasonable, has trustworthy reporting divisions.

Blogger xevious2030 August 09, 2019 9:38 AM  

"I don't think it is as blatant as that"

It is in the same vein as transsexual race bender whatever being a superhero, or the,Gama saviors. But it's the same purpose. Cuck, twist, prime. Then they go back, Jack, do it again.

Blogger Scuzzaman August 09, 2019 9:41 AM  

Lefty loonies glorifying the very thing they claim to abhor.

Didn’t some guy write a book about their troubles with truth?

Blogger VD August 09, 2019 9:44 AM  

So, unless there is a twist ending (and we haven't seen it yet...) folks are getting worked up over nothing.

You can't understand rhetoric from a dialectical perspective.

Blogger pdwalker August 09, 2019 9:44 AM  

Daily Meme:
https://twitter.com/quagmyrehk/status/1159779761687683072?s=21

hat tip: The Dark Lord, of course.

Blogger ToTheRightRon August 09, 2019 9:49 AM  

It's a nudge. Everything the enemy media does is a nudge.

Blogger xevious2030 August 09, 2019 9:55 AM  

Put another way, the whole time the hunting is going in the movie, it is going to play to serious wish fulfilment, and for the in the head crowd, provide further excuse to consider such legitimate, regardless of anything and everything else in the movie. They want you dead. USSR,Red China, wherever, they eventually try, and they have a whole lot of f-ing notches in their belt. The barrier is not the method, but the serious consideration.

Blogger doctrev August 09, 2019 9:57 AM  

If you still can't understand this, if you still can't accept this, you're probably not going to get it until you are actually being hunted by them and their proxies.

Priceless. Of course, it's quite entertaining that the movie prepares for wolves hunting sheep, whereas it's more of the 1% sheep fighting a 50% armed wolf population. Which is why this is the feel-good Hollywood film of the year. It completely justifies the upcoming Rabbit Season.

Blogger Oswald August 09, 2019 10:10 AM  

Trump's words cause violence? But their movies don't?

Blogger Noah B. August 09, 2019 10:14 AM  

If you still can't understand this, if you still can't accept this, you're probably not going to get it until you are actually being hunted by them and their proxies.

Perhaps not even then. Those would be the ones saying, "You don't have to do this! There has to be some kind of mistake!! L-L-Let's talk about this!"

Don't be that guy.

Blogger Madpiper August 09, 2019 10:15 AM  

And who owns NBC Universal?

Comcast.

Blogger Crew August 09, 2019 10:21 AM  

Given that his sister thought she was a man and the Dayton shooter wrote stuff like this:

Their screams music, their pain my pleasure.' Dayton shooter's demonic notebook scrawls reveal he fantasized about massacres, 'hunting' for humans,

I would say there was something genetic wrong with both of them.

Blogger Jeroth August 09, 2019 10:25 AM  

VD wrote:So, unless there is a twist ending (and we haven't seen it yet...) folks are getting worked up over nothing.

You can't understand rhetoric from a dialectical perspective.


Another way to put it is, the subconscious mind does not see what the conscious mind sees. Advertisers and propagandists are very well aware of this.

Take this scene from The Kingsmen for example. The plot makes it "ok" that a church full of white people are being slaughtered. But you have to ask yourself, is there ANY plot setup that would make this okay in a synagogue? Of course not. Because Hollywood Jews understand exactly what they are doing.

Blogger The Masked Menace August 09, 2019 10:26 AM  

Trump's greatest triumph was to tear the mask off the cultural elites to reveal for all the world to see the hideous malicious malignant face that had been hidden beneath.
I for one welcome this movie. Let the whole world see them for what they are.

Blogger JACIII August 09, 2019 10:26 AM  

This is not the first leftist murder fantasy about slaughtering Americans. "Django Unchained" lit the burner to boil this frog.

Blogger doctrev August 09, 2019 10:34 AM  

Jeroth wrote:
Take this scene from The Kingsmen for example. The plot makes it "ok" that a church full of white people are being slaughtered. But you have to ask yourself, is there ANY plot setup that would make this okay in a synagogue? Of course not. Because Hollywood Jews understand exactly what they are doing.


Done in an identical church with a black congregation, you'd have nuclear-level outrage, assuming any independent director could muster up the courage to try. A synagogue shooting would guaranteed never make it out of the door.

Blogger David Ray Milton August 09, 2019 10:36 AM  

I fully concede I could be wrong about this as I obviously don’t know all of the details of the movie. But if the gist of the movie is a bunch of MAGA protagonists kill a group of elitist hunters in their own sick game, the message seems to be “Kill the elitists before they can round you up and play man hunt with you.” It almost appears as if the Jews in Hollywood (who of course only care about money) finally decided to make a movie that would appeal to the half of the population who stopped going to theaters about a decade ago.

Once again, I fully admit that I could be missing an ulterior motive.

Blogger Taqiyyotomist August 09, 2019 10:40 AM  

#4 Tommy Lee didn't compose that rant. He plagiarized it from some other lunatic who wrote it in 2018.

Blogger Daniele Grech Pereira August 09, 2019 10:48 AM  

Let them watch their little movies and develop a sense of unjustified confidence. The punji pits will be waiting.

Blogger Mike Wallens August 09, 2019 11:08 AM  

Hollywood hates me. Absolutely, but my young Meagan, Taylor , Jaden, etc. wants to see the Lion King, Toys 20, and I really want to see the latest Tarantino movie so, despite being a "conservative" (I just love Hugh Hewitt) I will shell out big dollars to some person that wants to kill me.

Blogger Bucephalus August 09, 2019 11:11 AM  

Our gracious host is correct once again.
From immigration and proximity equaling war, to homeschool or die, sink the ships and so on, he is batting 1.000

If they don’t get it by now they will be the most dangerous game, the reality show.
This is the place I come to escape the insanity. I’m all in. Balkanization can’t get here soon enough.

Blogger VD August 09, 2019 11:19 AM  

I fully admit that I could be missing an ulterior motive.

You simply don't understand the irrelevance of dialectic when it comes to the power of visual rhetoric.

Put it this way. If you were to watch 90 minutes of porn, lovingly and expensively filmed with very attractive people of both sexes, followed by a 90-second denouement of a schoolmarm shaking her finger and saying "see, kids, that stuff is bad", would you consider that to be an "anti-porn message"?

Would you let your children see it because "the message is good"?

Blogger swiftfoxmark2 August 09, 2019 11:32 AM  

Gotta love how Hollywood just keeps on churning out remakes, in this it is "The Most Dangerous Game".

On a slight tangent, I've been reading "The Chronicles of Narnia" to my son recently. I realized that there were only three major movies made based on the series and then they stopped making them.

Meanwhile the Harry Potter series was fully made. They made all those books while stopping with the Narnia stories after "The Voyage of the Dawn Treader".

Blogger lowercaseb August 09, 2019 11:43 AM  

But the elites' master plan is about to be derailed because one of the hunted, Crystal (Betty Gilpin, GLOW), knows The Hunters game better than they do.

Waif-Fu confirmed. They may be written as "deplorables" but I'll bet you money that they will learn "lessons" along the way to complete the hero's journey to full civnat.

Hard pass...along with pretty much everything else coming out this year.

Blogger Balam August 09, 2019 12:07 PM  

Sologamer wrote:And note that the two leads are female. No conservative white male or young adolescent boy will see his avatar on screen. Verboten.

Yes this is the major hallmark sign that the movie is completely pozzed and not some sort of redpill that made its way past Hollywood execs.

In regards to dialectic vs rhetoric, yes the villains are the liberals. However, major villains tend to be heavily romanticized by the culture. Terminator 1, Aliens, Predator, The Matrix, Star Wars (OG Darth Vader), Loki&Thanos. Kids want to dress up as Stormtroopers not the filthy rebels. Fascist totalitarianism never looked so good as Vader in black. Psychopath killers became cool with the Terminator. Etc.

Blogger swiftfoxmark2 August 09, 2019 12:08 PM  

The best movie I've seen this year was "Godzilla, King of the Monsters".

No narrative. Just a movie about giant monsters fighting for domination of the Earth. Looking forward to Godzilla vs. Kong in March.

Blogger Dirk Manly August 09, 2019 12:23 PM  

.... so you can give even more of your $$$ to people who hate you so that they can use that money against you?

Have you not been paying attention, or are you just plain f'ing stupid?

Blogger 🐻Drew🐻 August 09, 2019 12:23 PM  

I wouldn't have expect this to end well, and initially thought this would speed up Vox's timeline on the collapse/2nd civil war. However,an article I read talking about what this process would look like changed my opinion. It seems as though it will be a frog in the water being boiled slowly...

The article went on to explain how sheriffs or other LE officers would plan out the seizing of your guns rather than a blatant door knock with a warrant. They would stake out the house and catch you outside, follow you to the grocery store, catch you when your leaving work for the day... only then would they escort you back to your house and have you open the safe. Essentially making every gun seizure 1 on 3.

This would seem to not speed up the collapse, as from what I can see at least in my area. People would not stand up and have an outcry if they come for people one or several at a time, at least not until the right as a whole can be united, which seems hard pressed at the moment when we have Shapiru, Crenshaw, and Rubio all supporting these laws.

Hope I'm wrong. And I hope the God Emperor doesn't sign off on this blatant 2nd amendment violation!

Blogger LAZ August 09, 2019 12:25 PM  

"...run of the mill action crap overlayed upon a small bit of philosophy..."

Arguably, Max wasn't even the main character. Did you notice all the women were good and Max was the only good man?

Blogger SirHamster August 09, 2019 12:28 PM  

Balam wrote:In regards to dialectic vs rhetoric, yes the villains are the liberals. However, major villains tend to be heavily romanticized by the culture. Terminator 1, Aliens, Predator, The Matrix, Star Wars (OG Darth Vader), Loki&Thanos.

For a right wing example, think of Colonel Jessup from A Few Good Men.

"You can't handle the truth!"

It doesn't matter that he gets convicted. That one scene gives him a moment of glory that still resonates.

It doesn't matter if the civ-nat "MAGA" heroes win in this murder-porn movie. All it takes is one scene of the liberal stand-ins murdering conservatives in cold blood.

Stop cowering, cuckservatives. The Left wants you dead and they're broadcasting these images to program their NPCs.

Blogger Taqiyyotomist August 09, 2019 12:30 PM  

Mars Attacks was the last redpill I ever saw make it past the filters. It was near perfect subversion.

Blogger Crew August 09, 2019 12:35 PM  

Whoa. Has this guy been reading Vox Day?

Darkness has descended upon the world; the fabric of society has been torn asunder, sovereign nations collapse under their own burdens, once stable governments are ushered into revolution and allies of old are thrust into war. The tentacles of darkness have inevitably traveled across the Atlantic and are now tightening their grip on the American republic.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009MTOBOG/

Blogger Unknown August 09, 2019 12:41 PM  

49.  🐻Drew🐻August 09, 2019 12:23 PM

People would not stand up and have an outcry if they come for people one or several at a time, at least not until the right as a whole can be united, which seems hard pressed at the moment when we have Shapiru, Crenshaw, and Rubio all supporting these laws.

This is the elephant in the room as far as challenging the left. Both the Democrats and the Republicans are of one mind with just vacationing infighting to differentiate the two.

There are no leaders, and little organization on the right while the left organized Antifa, the John Brown Gun Club, Redneck Revolt and the entire left quietly supports them. The GOP would attack any similar right-wing organizations.

Lastly waiting for a no-knock raid to show up before doing something is in fact doing nothing but preparing for a virtuous suicide.

We need organizations and leadership and they simply don't exist.

Blogger Doktor Jeep August 09, 2019 12:43 PM  

"You simply don't understand the irrelevance of dialectic when it comes to the power of visual rhetoric."

Let me tell you. There is way more to that comment. The more I think on this, the more I realize that most of my memory references are from films and TV. I refer to invoked imagery, or something like that. It's insidious.

Blogger David Ray Milton August 09, 2019 12:43 PM  

@VD

Good points. Perhaps I do not understand the rhetoric. I’ll sideline this one.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother August 09, 2019 12:50 PM  

How many times can the same police in the same town pull the 1 on 3 trick before the same thing happens to them?

Blogger sammibandit August 09, 2019 12:59 PM  

@Drew

Remember Katrina? Feds seized guns from unoccupied homes since the owners and tenants had taken refuge elsewhere. The same pattern happened here in Alberta after the Ft. Mac fire.

Blogger thesystemdisconnect August 09, 2019 1:18 PM  

MAGA Americans who watch this will feel like the scrappy underdogs.

They will feel like winners while adopting a "badass" defensive position.

As VD has said before defense is a losing position.

Blogger Vulture August 09, 2019 1:36 PM  

Motley Crue a boomer band? WTF?

Blogger Wilkes Marprelate August 09, 2019 1:37 PM  

(((They))) are becoming more obvious. It's maybe a good thing they become more blatant. Perhaps it'll wake more people up.

Blogger sammibandit August 09, 2019 1:40 PM  

Crüe formed in 1981. Lee was born 1962. He is a boomer. Mars is even older born in 1951 or 1955 and he pretty much Carrie's the band. Boomer band.

Blogger Dirk Manly August 09, 2019 1:46 PM  

@57

"How many times can the same police in the same town pull the 1 on 3 trick before the same thing happens to them?"

There's a reason so many of them seek absolute anonymity, and do NOT live in the city that they work for.

Blogger xevious2030 August 09, 2019 2:10 PM  

“How many times can the same police in the same town pull the 1 on 3 trick before the same thing happens to them?”

The longer term isn’t they swat you on the way to the hardware store, they start swatting part of grandmas social security check. Those airline tickets you bought to that great place, well someone else gets your seat, at your expense. That great job you were applying to, you didn’t get it because your nephew posted some stuff. The good doctor, and the, well, “doctor,” on a list to be there for the birth of your kid, guess which one you got because your husband gave money to that group. At that point, only the few need to be swatted directly. And death camps/reservations (outflow) and refugee processing (inflow) (colonial model) for the communities that pose a collective problem. They only use one playbook.

Blogger Karhu August 09, 2019 2:52 PM  

@64 xevious2030: Hello, Mr. Blackpill, "the Feds are sure to win". The cunning plan you outline has a fatal flaw, for it violates Machiavelli's rule to never do someone a small injury. It must be impossible for them to strike back.

Blogger Jeroth August 09, 2019 2:53 PM  

So, it's well past 48 hours and Trump is doubling down on the red flag laws. Like the bumpstock ban, this looks to be the real deal. He thinks he can persuade the 2A community into accepting this. He's wrong.

Blogger OneWingedShark August 09, 2019 4:02 PM  

VD wrote:If you still can't understand this, if you still can't accept this, you're probably not going to get it until you are actually being hunted by them and their proxies.
I would argue this is already in full swing; consider how the tech industry is so overwhelmingly dominated by foreign workers, even preferring them so much that companies are willing to institutionalize fraud in order to prefer the foreigner over the true Citizen: this has multiple 2nd-, 3rd-, and 4th-order effects which include depleting savings while the citizen looks for work, longer time between-jobs, depressed wages, devaluation of credentials, inflation of housing prices, fracturing of native community, etc. —And similar applies to "unskilled labor" and illegals.— The overall object of these is simple: to make it impossible for the citizen to have gainful employment, to have community, or to have any store of resources.


This is, to be blunt, the other side simultaneously prepping the battle-field and waging a cold war on the true citizens. / WRT this particular movie, it's sleight-of-hand to both lull "the right" into being comfortable with both defensive-posture and lone-wolf style operations while both testing the waters of how ready the fake-citizens are to enact such violence as well as pushing them to accept such.

The modus operandi of the people producing this is "let's you and him fight", they are so addicted to this that I wonder what direct confrontation would do to their mental state.

Blogger xevious2030 August 09, 2019 4:05 PM  

“Hello, Mr. Blackpill”

You did not understand my post at all. And you did not understand the post it commented on. The concept is method, not victory/defeat. It can be found by doing a search on “social credit score China.”

I don’t recall much of Machiavelli (good stuff, crappy memory), but history is repeat of small injury, and the success or failure of striking back.

Blogger Bibliotheca Servare August 09, 2019 4:13 PM  

@ doctrev

I understand your sentiment, but I want to note that the "sheep" are a hell of a lot better at organized action, propaganda, and spin-doctoring reality than the sheepdogs.

Underestimating your (theoretical) future foe is a good way to get yourself, and your allies, destroyed.

They may be insane, evil, and utterly useless cowards, for the most part, but they are also equipped with people who have been actively fighting, and prepping for, a 4th Gen conflict for the past fifty years, if not longer.

Don't fool yourself into thinking that the (hypothetical) war will be won in a day because the left is a bunch of "soft handed merchants and shopkeepers" to paraphrase an attitude many in the South had prior to Lincoln's war.

There's a reason we need the kinds of platforms that Vox is building. The left has the biggest loudspeaker on Earth to spread their lies with. We need something to counter it.

I don't care *what* anyone on the right thinks of Vox's perspective on race, nationality, religion, etc. If they aren't praying to God to give him success in his efforts to provide an alternative platform for truth, they're either stupid, blind, or clueless.

God only needs 12, but men like Vox are what will help us keep it from getting to that point.

Pardon my rambling. No offense meant.

Blogger Jeroth August 09, 2019 4:25 PM  

Trump: "I don't care politically. I don't want crazy people to have guns."

Says the man who inspired 35 psychiatrists to get together and write a paper detailing his dangerous insanity.

Blogger Bibliotheca Servare August 09, 2019 4:26 PM  

@ Unknown Drew

Pretty much. But we're working on it. Slowly. The Right does not like organizing.

Indeed the most successful example of Right wing organized action is the pro-life movement, and Congress actually passed (and no Congress has repealed, shamefully) a law *banning* them from using tactics that every single lefty activist organization uses! It's the 1994 FACES act.

Google "radical book club" for a useful article on the subject of Right-wing organizing, vs left-wing organizing.

Blogger Bibliotheca Servare August 09, 2019 4:28 PM  

Sorry, "radical book club status 451"
It can make you feel a bit blackpilled, but it's genuinely useful information.

Blogger tublecane August 09, 2019 6:01 PM  

This sort of fare--hunting down MAGAs for sport or maybe sexual pleasure (I don't know) is passè for me. I remember seeing a movie called the Last Supper when I was like 13, which was about a group of young adults inviting various conservative people over to dinner and poisoning them because of the Time-travel Baby Hitler question. Eventually they get to a Rush Limbaugh-type who gets the better of them. It's implied he goes on to become dictator or something.

Anyway, they do this stuff all the time, Hollywood. The only reason anyone cares right now is that its release happened to have bad luck in timing. Sort of the the sci-fi comedy about a neighborhood watch organization had the bad luck to come out during the Summer of Trayvon.

Blogger tublecane August 09, 2019 6:07 PM  

@70- The gun-rights movement more than pro-life, I think, has been successfully organized. That's because both are motivated by a "culture" and preexisting institutions.

Blogger Balam August 09, 2019 6:34 PM  

Jeroth wrote:Says the man who inspired 35 psychiatrists to get together and write a paper detailing his dangerous insanity.

Psychiatrists aren't supposed to diagnose people they've never met.
https://infogalactic.com/info/Goldwater_rule

"On occasion psychiatrists are asked for an opinion about an individual who is in the light of public attention or who has disclosed information about himself/herself through public media. In such circumstances, a psychiatrist may share with the public his or her expertise about psychiatric issues in general. However, it is unethical for a psychiatrist to offer a professional opinion unless he or she has conducted an examination and has been granted proper authorization for such a statement."

Blogger Bibliotheca Servare August 09, 2019 6:41 PM  

The gun rights movement is a good example of the kind of organizing the Right is actually pretty good at: official organizations with membership rolls, centralized, not requiring much individual participation aside from donations; think-tanks, etc. The kind of thing that lets you trust that someone else is using your money to do something you can't do because you have to work, etc.

The kind of organizing that got us the Gun Control Act, the Lautenberg Gun Ban, the Federal Firearms Act, the Brady Act, and the Gun-Free School Zones act. Conserving... nothing. Per usual.

The Pro-life movement is a fairly unique example of the Right organizing and engaging in activism the way that Lefties do *everything* as natural as breathing.

Massive, decentralized but well- coordinated, multiple levels of participation, numerous ways to contribute and feel like you're "doing something" for the cause, understanding of the logistics involved in large-scale action, largely unofficial and independent but connected and cooperative... capable of collective action, despite differences of opinion on certain details...

There's more, but I'm pretty sure I've strayed close enough to the line demarcating "thread derailment" for today, and I'd rather not have to be warned to knock it off.

Check out the blog series I mentioned "radical book club status 451" for more information. The author isn't necessarily (though he considers himself a "rightie") an ally of the Right, but that doesn't mean he can't have useful information.

Blogger Bibliotheca Servare August 09, 2019 6:41 PM  

Sorry, that was @ tubalcane

Blogger Joe August 09, 2019 7:00 PM  

"the movie represents what the satanists intend to do to Americans if Americans are foolish enough to permit themselves to be disarmed."

The enemy has a proclivity to openly state their plans. They believe it gives them more power. They believe it makes them more successful. They believe it makes the victims culpable. The ending flourish is to mock the victim. These are calling cards to identify who's behind an act.

The events surrounding 9-11 have dozens of them, if not hundreds.

Blogger Karhu August 09, 2019 7:50 PM  

@76 Bibliotheca Servare:

"The gun rights movement is a good example of the kind of organizing the Right is actually pretty good at: official organizations with membership rolls, centralized, not requiring much individual participation aside from donations; think-tanks, etc. The kind of thing that lets you trust that someone else is using your money to do something you can't do because you have to work, etc.

The kind of organizing that got us the Gun Control Act, the Lautenberg Gun Ban, the Federal Firearms Act, the Brady Act, and the Gun-Free School Zones act. Conserving... nothing. Per usual."

You don't know anything about the movement at the state and local level, where in Red states we've had tremendous success, for example most of the people in most of the states can carry concealed, in more than a dozen without a license. And no states that have turned Blue have dared reverse their carry policies.

The Federal level has been mostly a disaster because the NRA is 95% of it, pretty much everything but the lawsuits, which have had some notable successes. Though at that level we have the 2005 Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act (PLCAA), which has mostly stopped lawfare from shutting down the manufacturing and sales of guns. It'll get its real test now that Remington has appealed Connecticut's ruling to the Supreme Court.

The NRA is probably doomed due to total internal corruption and anti-gun prosecutors who are investigating it, so the game at that level might very well change.

Blogger doctrev August 09, 2019 8:53 PM  

Bibliotheca Servare wrote:@ doctrev

Pardon my rambling. No offense meant.


Never, NEVER apologize for rambling on the Internet. Rambling reveals, and sometimes gets the truth out. For that, I thank you.

I agree that controlling the media is important, but having control and organization the way the enemy does depends on safety. Which they can't rely on in a 4GW conflict. That loudspeaker must be countered, yes, but the best way to do it is with the truth. And war will bring about Truth on a scale Americans have not seen in generations. The war won't be won in a day: but the beginning of the end might come in a day. Or in five years. Either way, it's better than the bitter fruit of erasure and lies.

Keep up heart. I'm confident you'll do what needs doing.

Blogger doctrev August 09, 2019 10:24 PM  

Jeroth wrote:Trump: "I don't care politically. I don't want crazy people to have guns."

Says the man who inspired 35 psychiatrists to get together and write a paper detailing his dangerous insanity.


Remember, he's not always talking to political dissidents who know the history of governments abusing psychiatry. He's talking to the average dude who thinks "I love my gun, but crazy people and MS-13 shouldn't have them!" Trump's amazing at dealing with that audience, and he hasn't failed on the gun issue for years.

Honestly, there's some merit into sealing off liberals from guns. I wouldn't be surprised if the President made it a federal crime to buy guns from shall-issue states if your primary residence is in a tyranny like New York. He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still. I'd rather see shall-issue mandated at the federal level, but I'd get the argument for suppressing liberal arms.

Blogger James August 09, 2019 11:46 PM  

Vox calls them Paper American Satanists, most know them as Jews. Hollywood certainly isnt owned and operated by Christians or Chinese or Italians or Germans or Irish. From screen writers to producers to directors, Jews from top to bottom.

Blogger PG August 09, 2019 11:52 PM  

I'm going to watch it.
I can't be the only one here who likes to critique propaganda mechanisms.



Blogger SciVo August 10, 2019 4:21 AM  

Matt wrote:I watched the trailer because I was curious and the people they capture (the deplorables) kind of seem like the good guys. Not sure what to make of this, maybe I'm missing something.

Ask yourself: why didn't all those Hollywood Jews make a movie like that, but with themselves turning the tables on the neo-Nazis hunting them?

Blogger Dirk Manly August 10, 2019 10:56 PM  

The did make one about Soviet Jews hiding in the woods and hunting actual Wermacht and SS... but in that one, the hunted Jews were the protaganists, whereas in this one, the protaganists are rich SJW-istas.

So in both films, the point of view of the protaganists is Jewish (and/or Jewish endorsed), and the antagonists are those who oppose Jewish goals.

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