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Sunday, August 11, 2019

He's got a point

Then again, consistency has never been a strong point of the establishment media:
The BBC is facing accusations of “hypocrisy” for describing Kashmir as “Indian occupied,” with people asking why it doesn’t apply similar descriptions to Northern Ireland.
The query was first put to the British broadcaster on Sunday by British-Indian film director Shekhar Kapur and it quickly went viral.

“Hey @BBCWorld.. each time you call Kashmir ‘Indian Occupied Kashmir’ I keep wondering why you refuse to call Northern Ireland ‘British Occupied Ireland’?” Kapur asked in a tweet that rapidly racked up more than 20,000 retweets and over 50,000 likes. Other responses to Kapur’s message accused the state-owned media company of applying the “occupied” tag to other regions including Tibet, Hong Kong and Balochistan. It also prompted the creation of the #BritishOccupiedIreland hashtag, which also picked up retweet traffic. 
Either Northern Ireland is British-occupied or there is no reason to complain about the New Kashmiri immigrants, who despite being Hindu are every bit as genuinely Kashmiri as the Muslims who preceded them.

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71 Comments:

Blogger Jack Ward August 11, 2019 1:14 PM  

Ouch! That smarts.

Blogger furor kek tonicus ( Baltimore is a rathole, WhiteManBad ) August 11, 2019 1:15 PM  

it's awful when they do it

...

who, us?

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother August 11, 2019 1:15 PM  

Mexico Occupied SW America

Get out!

Blogger Nate August 11, 2019 1:20 PM  

I live in occupied alabama.

Blogger Critias August 11, 2019 1:20 PM  

As someone who lives in the part of Ireland which is currently occupied by the British, this is great to see from our Indian friends.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan August 11, 2019 1:22 PM  

Black occupied Atlanta, there I said it and it was fun.

Blogger LR27 August 11, 2019 1:30 PM  

Mexico occupies towns across the US. They’ve come in and thrust out Europeans nearly as far north as Canada in some towns.

Blogger PH August 11, 2019 1:32 PM  

In 1922 there was a vote. The counties in the south voted for independence and got it. The 6 counties in the North voted to remain part of the UK, and ever since have been called Northern Ireland.

Blogger MATT August 11, 2019 1:36 PM  

Kashmir is my least favorite of their most popular songs.

Blogger MATT August 11, 2019 1:37 PM  

Well those people who voted to remain are long gone. Maybe it's time for a new vote.

Blogger VD August 11, 2019 1:37 PM  

The 6 counties in the North voted to remain part of the UK, and ever since have been called Northern Ireland.

That historical vote is irrelevant as the "Scottish" independence vote in which English immigrants were permitted to vote. If only actual Scots had voted, independence would have passed.

Most of the voters were English, not Irish.

Blogger MATT August 11, 2019 1:38 PM  

It doesnt help that Americans pack up and leave. Jews stay and refuse to sell to non Jews, have to admire that.

Blogger Steve August 11, 2019 1:39 PM  

Two reasons:

1) Ulster isn't being held in the United Kingdom against its will.

2) Irish "nationalist" complaints would make more sense if they weren't perversely determined that Ireland should be EU-occupied.

However, I am sympathetic to the plight of our Irish friends and their desire for the reunification of the Emerald Isle. Since they have no interest in independence, the Republic is most welcome to leave the EU and come home to Britain. A Kingdom Once Again, eh?

Blogger Blume August 11, 2019 1:41 PM  

Probably more Scottish than English in the 6 counties

Blogger Old Griz August 11, 2019 1:46 PM  

The protestant Socttish invaders still aren't Irish.

Blogger Blume August 11, 2019 1:46 PM  

Also if its only the Irish can vote than it should be all the Irish in the whole empire vote and they all take the result. It's either a land or a people.

Blogger Steve August 11, 2019 1:48 PM  

Vox - "If only actual Scots had voted, independence would have passed."

As they say in Glasgow, "if yer Maw had baws, she'd be yer Da"

Guess who is the most mad-keen on filling Scotland up with immigrants, however Third Worldy, and optimistically declaring them "New Scots" as soon as they get to the baggage carousel at Edinburgh airport?

It's not the Unionists.

By the way, the fine print of what the SNP laughingly calls "independence" makes for sobering reading. They want to use a foreign currency, be subjected to foreigners controlling their natural resources and foreign policy, and have approximately 80% of their laws made by foreigners in Brussels and Strasbourg.

But it's "independence", you see. Because SNP functionaries will get a place at the big kids' trough.

The SNP is a fake nationalist party that promotes exactly the same globalist poz that's corroding the rest of the West. They deserve to lose.

Blogger Ska_Boss August 11, 2019 1:52 PM  

Don't worry, the BBC has a loicense to practice propaganda.

Blogger Lone wolf August 11, 2019 1:55 PM  

That's not very "tolerant" of the English.

Blogger Old Griz August 11, 2019 2:02 PM  

Occupied California

Blogger Mark Stoval August 11, 2019 2:08 PM  

For decades it has been readily appearent that the blacker/darker the city the more of a shit hole it is. If mankind is to not fall back into a pre-industrial era, there will have to be some place that white people can live in peace away from "diversity". This is just the science that HBD research is telling us.

I suggest we take the USA. And ... help Russia stay white.

Blogger Brick Hardslab August 11, 2019 2:09 PM  

It does not matter if, "the Irish would vote to stay in the EU" or "the Irish would let in more immigrants". It's the Irish that should get to vote for whatever they want for Ireland.

The right to be sovereign includes the right to make mistakes.

Blogger furor kek tonicus ( Baltimore is a rathole, WhiteManBad ) August 11, 2019 2:21 PM  

22. Brick Hardslab August 11, 2019 2:09 PM
The right to be sovereign includes the right to make mistakes.



silly, SILLY Brick.

Democracy is only permitted to make the mistakes which ((( we ))) desire for it to make.

Blogger Wolfman August 11, 2019 2:23 PM  

Slightly Offtopic but too funny not to share.
The Simpsons take a shot at diversity
https://twitter.com/i/status/1160580836443529216

Blogger Wolfman August 11, 2019 2:26 PM  

Wait it's about three years old.
not a happening... still funny
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_N8DafQKMc

Blogger Skyler the Weird August 11, 2019 2:26 PM  

East Asian occupied Britain will have to be divided into West Pakistan and Brittanindia.

Blogger Kane August 11, 2019 2:34 PM  

Israeli occupied Palest(((censored)))

Blogger Steve August 11, 2019 2:46 PM  

It's the Irish that should get to vote for whatever they want for Ireland.

They do. Even when they "get it wrong", like when they initially rejected the EU's Lisbon Treaty and then meekly held a second referendum to give the EU the answer it desired.

Begorrah, twould bring a tear to Michael Collins' eye, so it would.

Blogger Ant_B August 11, 2019 2:55 PM  

Ulster is British by Conquest and excellent funding by the City of London Corporation.

Blogger pyrrhus August 11, 2019 2:58 PM  

When hard Brexit creates a hard border with the South, Northern Ireland will have good reason to remain occupied.....

Blogger John Best. August 11, 2019 3:06 PM  

The British state needs to get out of Ulster and leaving the Loyalists alone. Rather than occupying them, forcing abortion and sodomy on them. I expect the Loyalists to be back in the conflict soon enough.

Blogger Wazdakka August 11, 2019 3:24 PM  

Critias wrote:As someone who lives in the part of Ireland which is currently occupied by the British, this is great to see from our Indian friends.

How is Dublin?

Blogger Nostromo August 11, 2019 3:34 PM  

Sounds like a "no true Scottsman" argument.

Blogger Argus Bacchus August 11, 2019 3:43 PM  

@3

Bu..bu...but the tahcoss deliciosos!!

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother August 11, 2019 4:05 PM  

There are probably some really good English restaurants in Ulster, though.

Blogger VD August 11, 2019 4:08 PM  

Ulster isn't being held in the United Kingdom against its will.

That's like saying Tibet isn't being held in China against its will. All you're doing is condoning a large-enough invasion to generate an electoral majority.

Blogger Silent Draco August 11, 2019 4:12 PM  

Perhaps the English government can charter Cunard/White Star for a renewed POSH service (Port Out, Stay Home), to solve the problem.

Blogger Garuna August 11, 2019 4:16 PM  

Jammu & Kashmir is an Indian state. There is no argument for calling it "Indian occupied" instead of just "Indian state of Jammu & Kashmir. BBC is just being subversive and the Indians are rejecting the attempted subversion.

https://infogalactic.com/info/Jammu_and_Kashmir

Blogger Nikolai Collushnikov August 11, 2019 4:25 PM  

Well, that's how Crimea became part of Russia.

Blogger Newscaper312 August 11, 2019 4:33 PM  

@36 VD
Thats likely the main reason the talk about sending all the freed slaves back to Africa after the Civil War dried up once Lincolns death allowed Radical Reconstruction. The former slaves were too useful as votes to put the Northern carpetbaggers in power in the South.

Blogger DonReynolds August 11, 2019 5:14 PM  

Nate wrote:I live in occupied alabama.

The British have occupied part or all of Ireland for a long time. The same goes for Wales, which have certainly been occupied by a power that does not like them.

Yes, Nate.....no one ever mentions how eleven states were occupied and under military rule for ten years, followed by commisars.....called carpetbaggers ....for decades. We are still an occupied country, for 154 years now.

If you want to find out if your well-behaved pet will run away from home, just keep the door open for a few minutes. They might come back later.

Blogger DonReynolds August 11, 2019 5:30 PM  

Old Griz wrote:The protestant Socttish invaders still aren't Irish.

I like your rule. I really do. But since the Scotish Borderers have been in Northern Ireland longer than most Americans have been in North America, I doubt it will sell well.

My own Scot-Irish relatives came from Ireland (you can probably guess where by the name) to Philadelphia and took the stagecoach to Copperhill, Tennessee, just outside of Knoxville, while it was still part of North Carolina. Now it is called Tennessee but the tribe is still there. Are these the original Tennesseans (who should be voting) or are they still Scottish Border ruffians, that Charles and James decided to get rid of?

Blogger Snidely Whiplash August 11, 2019 5:32 PM  

Garuna wrote:Jammu & Kashmir is an Indian state. There is no argument for calling it "Indian occupied" instead of just "Indian state of Jammu & Kashmir. BBC is just being subversive and the Indians are rejecting the attempted subversion.
And Pakistan claims it is legally part of Pakistan as well. The only reason it is not considered part of Pakistan is that India was able to defeat Pakistan in each of the wars fought over the region. Given that the population is 90-odd percent Moslem and would vote to leave India and join Pakistan by a 9-fold margin if they were asked, and that the Indian rule is maintained strictly by force of arms, "occupied" is an apt description.
Granted,the BBC is taking the Pakistani side in the dispute, but I am willing to put money down that this is because the relevant management at BBC are 2nd or 3rd generation Pakistani.

Blogger VFM #7634 August 11, 2019 5:52 PM  

They do. Even when they "get it wrong", like when they initially rejected the EU's Lisbon Treaty and then meekly held a second referendum to give the EU the answer it desired.

Begorrah, twould bring a tear to Michael Collins' eye, so it would.


Considering the EUSSR, plus who Ireland elected as their Taoiseach last time, I'm not convinced that handing the North back to Ireland would solve anything, really. If they're going to be leftist nationalists of the SNP and Catalan sort, the cure may be worse than the disease.

The protestant Socttish invaders still aren't Irish.

Actually, religion doesn't even figure into it, like it does in Bosnia for example, where your religion determines what ethnic group you're a part of. About 4% of the Irish are Protestant, and about 10% of the Scots-Irish and English in the North are Catholic -- more or less matching the figures in the Republic of Ireland and Great Britain, respectively -- but they still ally with their co-ethnics for the most part. And why wouldn't they? Blood is thicker than water.

Blogger Daniel August 11, 2019 6:03 PM  

Catholic Irish in Norther Ireland would be much better off making permanent peace with their Protestant brethren and work to maintain the status quo. The Republic of Ireland has become a moral cesspool. Abortion, homosexuality, trannyism (and other perversion) have been embraced. The Republic of Ireland (at least the elite) has also embraced multiculturalism to the extent that they are planning on mass immigration, permanently altering the population of the country, in a way that all the invasions of thousands of years could not do. Any Irish Catholic of a rightward bent will have much more in common with the Irish Protestants than with his Catholic brethren.

Blogger weka August 11, 2019 6:12 PM  

Westminster is not benign. It is arrogant, at times stupid, and perfidious.

However, Brussels is far, far worse.

Blogger cecilhenry August 11, 2019 6:17 PM  

Yeah.

Beside I thought Kashmir was in desperate need of diversity.

As much and as fast as possible.


Wasn't that the whole reason it was founded to begin with?

Oh wait. Too many questions?

Blogger Critias August 11, 2019 6:29 PM  

@44
Religion does feature very heavily in it. It's not the be all and end all, but it is a massive influence here in the north. Can you please reframe from trying to sound so authoritative on a topic that you are ignorant of. I live here every day, I know what it's about. I have conversations EVERYDAY about it on both sides of the community.

@45
Yes it is a bit of a dilemma, but it's wrong to think that all Irish people are in favour of the globohomo agenda. America is key, when it breaks apart the politics of Ireland will change drastically as we follow America's example.

Blogger Old Griz August 11, 2019 6:33 PM  

@DonReynolds

I've always used that rule to confound the airheads who think the Ulster troubles were a mainly religious matter. Religion is just one part of a cultural issue. As to Tennessee. It's no longer Injun country. My Catholic Irish McGillicuddy ancestors were shipwrecked in New Brunswick. My Scotsirish Yates ancestors came through Ellis Island. My Yates relatives were adamant that they weren't Irish. My English ancestry predates them all in Connecticut.

Blogger Unknown August 11, 2019 6:40 PM  

"That historical vote is irrelevant as the "Scottish" independence vote in which English immigrants were permitted to vote. If only actual Scots had voted, independence would have passed."

How you define "Scottish" is not simple. The English and Scottish have intermarried for centuries. My forebears were border English long before the union of the Scottish and English crowns (under a Scottish monarch btw). A large proportion of our "tribe" were based over the border, and the same is true of most border surnames. The loyalties was to the family first and the country second.

Re the Scottish Independence referendum, there is a theory (which I support) that if England as a whole had been permitted to vote the Scottish would have gained their independence.

The English and Scottish have intermarried for centuries.

Blogger Old Griz August 11, 2019 6:41 PM  

For what it's worth, I was talking with an ahtiest Americanised immigrant who claims Jammu as his birthplace. He said all the local Royalty were Hindu and looked to India. While the local peasants were mostly Moslem.

So a different version of elites vs. deplorables.

Blogger Scuzzaman August 11, 2019 6:53 PM  

The BBC is also running an hilariously stupid story about Epstein and how there’s absolutely no evidence a sex criminal and friend of billionaires and presidents could have been murdered while on suicide watch, nothing to see here, move along.

So now we know it was murder ...

Blogger Ant_B August 11, 2019 7:58 PM  

As the Scoti were originally from Eire, the plantation of Ireland was just a reclaiming of the land with help fron the highly esteemed City of London Corporation. Up the Gers! :)

Blogger Theproductofafineeduction August 11, 2019 8:33 PM  

The vote will go the same way. There was a poll in 2011 covering national identity. Half the respondents selected British, next was northern Irish, just Irish was third. Another to look at is that less than 25% of he respondents selected just Irish.

Blogger John Best. August 11, 2019 9:22 PM  

@45 The IRA and Loyalist paramilitaries will be fighting side by side soon enough to overthrown the satanist state and drive them out of Ireland. After which the conflict of Celtic Irish vs Ulster Scottish will continue or there will be a settlement. The Loyalists understand this already, they openly talk about alliance with the Irish nationalists. There seems to be less enthusiasm for this within the Irish nationalist circles, understandably, but in the end the alliance makes sense and it is a way for the Irish nationalists to finally break from the Irish Republican infestation.

Blogger John Best. August 11, 2019 9:38 PM  

@48 For the Loyalists Protestantism is the basis of their fight, they don't want to be forced into a Catholic state so they don't like the Catholic Church or Catholicism. What's the Celtic Irish or Catholic view? As I listen to Republic/Irish nationalist songs a lot, and they never talk about being Catholic or God, the Loyalists never stop singing about it.

Blogger furor kek tonicus ( Baltimore is a rathole, WhiteManBad ) August 11, 2019 9:38 PM  

35. Stg58/Animal Mother August 11, 2019 4:05 PM
There are probably some really good English restaurants in Ulster, though.



https://gph.is/2UGEctX


40. Newscaper312 August 11, 2019 4:33 PM
Thats likely


that was the explicit reason.

that's also why being a Republican ( of either race ) in the Deep South was a good way to get yourself lynched up to the 1950s.

the South knew exactly what had been done to it.

and that also points up the farcical stupidity of forcing the Confederate states back into the Union ... the natives of the conquered area are going to vote MONOLITHICALLY against the party which subjugated them.

therefore, unless the Republicans found some way to also organize the North to vote monolithically for them ( as opposed to what they actually did do ), they would be wiped out by the first Southern party to make any overtures towards dissatisfied Northern concerns.


that's why extending Amendments to Federal Law becoming constraints upon States became essential in the post CW era.

prior to that, ONLY the Federal government was constrained by the Constitution and BOR. for instance, there were still official churches in various States almost all the way up to 1850. the Reconstruction period is where the entire philosophical and Legal basis of the Constitution was inverted.

yes, i'm saying that according the Constitution-as-practised before 1850, no one would have blinked an eye at Utah incorporating as an officially Mormon state. even Hindu or Muslim or Jewish or Jain or atheist or what-have-you States are conceivable in that milieu.

because neither the Federal government nor the Federal Courts would have anything to say in the matter.


but it's been a very long time since the Federal government has bothered to constrain itself with the Law.

Blogger HouellebecqGurl August 11, 2019 9:49 PM  

Amen. It's certainly how it feels.

Blogger Daniel August 11, 2019 9:59 PM  

@55

Gerry Adams is an advocate for GloboHomo (perversion and Brussels). The rest of the IRA? Who knows, who cares. Most of them are psychopaths anyway.

2/3 of the Irish voted for GloboHomo twice (abortion and gay marriage referenda). I have seen it printed that 80-90% of Irish under the age of 30 support the GloboHomo agenda. If GloboHomo invades the north it will seduce the young (both Catholic and Protestant) as it has in the Republic of Ireland (and in most of the West). The best thing for Northern Ireland now is to create a hard border between the North and the Republic, if only for the reason of resisting GloboHomo. I hope that Irish nationalists can see that GloboHomo is a much greater threat than England or the Crown eve were, or ever could be. They and the Irish Protestants are in the same boat resisting this wickedness.

Blogger English Tom August 11, 2019 10:35 PM  

Michael Collins really would be spinning in his grave if he could see the present state of Ireland, it's leadership and it's socio-cultural degeneracy viz the African infestation, globohomo agenda, and the hideous agenda 2030 coming up.
However, there is a long and glorious tradition in Ireland (north and south) of burning people out of their homes. The last iteration was in the early 00's, when a,load of Rumanians got forcibly ejected.
I think there might be a return of this tradition over the coming years.
Re: Kashmir & BBC. Britain shouldn't be taking sides, but rather encourage both sides to simmer down. India and Pakistan are nuclear states. Also, I assume the China factor played into Modi's decision.

Interesting times ahead.

Blogger tublecane August 11, 2019 11:24 PM  

@69- They have all that peat moss lying around. Eventually things are gonna catch fire. That's just nature.

Blogger John Best. August 11, 2019 11:28 PM  

@59 No. Gerry Adams is a British agent. Always has been. The IRA army council still exists, they have active service units, they have been fighting a campaign against drug gangs and criminal elements for decades, losing some members to that conflict. Like with most countries, people mistake the big cities for the entire nation. It is no different in Ireland. Also most of the IRA were good men fighting for their nation, they were played and used by the satanists, but it doesn't change that the cause they believed in was true and just. I am a Loyalists, but I do understand and respect the Irish position and those men who engaged in the fight.

No. If you actually look at the referendum 42% of the registered voters voted for abortion. Stop believing the entertainment of the satanist state. That includes the not-Irish population as well as Irish people who live overseas who were paid to come back and vote for abortion, for entertainment purposes. Stop looking at events and people, look at trends and concepts. All elections and referendums are entertainment, politics itself is entertainment. Stop taking it so seriously when something you don't like happens. When you say 'Irish under 30', do you mean Irish between the ages of 18 and 30? What about about Irish growing up now? The globohomo's have been trying to seduce the Loyalists for 150 years, it doesn't work, the Loyalist have created their own national culture which they hold to, which they gain morale from. This is why I don't even worry about them succumbing to the lollipop's and fancy pants. Why do you think the satanist state is forcing abortion and sodomy on Ulster through the British state? Because it can't break or buy off the Loyalists. A line in a Loyalists song 'they have bombed, kill and maimed but our Ulster still remains'. From the Loyalist song 'The Union we'll maintain'
To win us all unto their cause they try by word and deed,
They say they wish the welfare of every class and creed.
Oh! Protestants be not deceived by wily men again
But proudly send your answer back - the Union we'll maintain.

The Loyalists are at this point far more likely to start bombing abortion clinics and attacking sodomite activists, than they are to keep the peace. Last year the UVF stole a bus and burned it because the PSNI took their bonfire down, they active attack immigrant families and try to burn them out of Loyalist area's. People don't understand the Loyalists, they are most likely to go on the offensive, than stand still. They started the Troubles because the Ulster Parliament had been subverted by the satanist state, then fought a 30 year conflict to regain their position. They oppose the British state just as much as the IRA did.

No. The Irish were threatened much more by the English/Crown as they view it, than they are now by globohomo. They lost millions of people, to the same satanists who are now trying to use mass immigration to destroy the Irish nation. The strategies and means used by the satanists have changed, but the aim is still the same. That is the argument you make to the Irish nationalists, you link the British state and Irish state together, rather than trying to make one worse than the other, they are both the same entity. They are in the same boat and they need to ally, hopefully it happens, regardless the Loyalists won't break and the IRA is still active, so they well do what they can independently.

Blogger John Best. August 11, 2019 11:35 PM  

@60 Michael Collins is presently loading his revolver to save Ireland once again.

Blogger Paul M August 12, 2019 4:20 AM  

It's always amusing to listen to the BBC cover the Grand Prix. English drivers are "English", but Scottish and Welsh drivers are "British".

Blogger Steve Samson August 12, 2019 5:25 AM  

I hope I live to see the day when "British" isn't even a thing. Its similar to the problem you have with "American" except the Magic Dirt Brits don't even have to bother with a hyphen, they can claim to be British because British is a completely made up thing, they are probably even subjects of the British Crown under their original nationality. Empire is truly corrosive.

Blogger Polemicist August 12, 2019 6:36 AM  

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Blogger Polemicist August 12, 2019 6:48 AM  

@11 Vox

"If only actual Scots had voted, independence would have passed."

How many generations to become a native?

Polls after the 2014 referendum showed that up to 70% of those who identified with the Church of Scotland (unlikely to be English'immigrants') voted against independence. However, a majority of Catholics in Scotland (mostly of Irish origin) voted 'Yes'.

What is the favourite taunt the mostly Protestant and Unionist support of Rangers Football Club like to direct against their Celtic rivals?

It is this: "The famine is over - why don't you go home?"

Blogger Mr.MantraMan August 12, 2019 7:24 AM  

Hey ho, GloHo has got to go

Blogger John Best. August 12, 2019 1:25 PM  

@67 Their evils seeds have been sown
Cause they're not of our own
Well the famine is over
Why don't you go home?

This is very good lyrics and can be used against all foreigners in your nation.

Blogger Dirk Manly August 12, 2019 2:01 PM  

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Blogger Dirk Manly August 12, 2019 2:03 PM  

Correct sentiment, but improve the rhythm.

I suggest you try "Hey ho, hey ho, GloHo has got to go" and work from there.

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