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Friday, August 02, 2019

Self-destruction is the aim

In the midst of an epic discussion of the SJW murder of Marvel's god of thunder, John C. Wright pens an appropriately thunderous anathema:
If self destruction were not the aim, it is certainly an odd coincidence that the Left just so happens to destroy everything and create nothing.

They promote sexual perversion, they promote male athletes pretending to be female compeating in women's sports, human feces heaped on the sidewalks in San Francisco while (at the same time) claiming it is racist to use hoses to clean the sidewalks, on the grounds that hoses were used against black protesters during the Civil Rigths march.

They side with terrrorists over the Jews, jihadists over homosexuals, and with the CIA and big business when and only when those organizations are acting in a corrupt and illegal fashion, but not when they fuction as designed.

When Russia was soviet, they all rushed to defend it. Not that is it not, they denounce it as the greatest of threats.

They are against nuclear energy but also against fossil fuels.

They favor infanticide, divorse, contraception, and euthanasia, but they hate the traditional family.

The hang toilets in modern art museums, cans of human feces, and paintings of the Virgin covered in dung.

They favor Newspeak over English, or, in other words, they are against language except when it is corrupt.

They adore and laud pervert pride parades, but then scream with bugeyed hysteria at a Fourth of July parade.

They hate cops.

And the list goes on and on and on. In not a single case is their any evidence of them building up anything after destroying what came before.

There is no new form of family, no new form of modern art, no new form of gender-free English, no new form of law enforcement, no new form of government, and no new rules of courtesy and politeness. There is nothing but continued condemnation of the old forms as unjust.

Imagine a man who aims and misses the mark but hits his rich uncle through a distant bedroom window over and over and over again. The claim that his true goal is to hit the mark cannot be believed after the hundredth shaft shot unerringly into the old man's corpse.

Deliberate? Uncle Screwtape's deceit of them might be deliberate. I am not sure if the word deliberate has any meaning when dealing with minds unable and unwilling to deliberate anything.
Self-destruction is always and ever the aim of Satandom. This is because the god of this world hates humanity, and he hates all that is Good, that is Beautiful, and that is True. Whether you prefer to call his servitors the Left, SJWs, the Chantry Guild, or the Synagogue of Satan, the single most important thing to understand is that their actions are never coincidental or ironic or mistaken, they are always purposeful.

Their entire purpose, their only objective, is to destroy. That is why no amount of appeals to reason, to capitalism, or to profit motive will ever prevail. That is why creators and builders must always remain awake and on guard against their blandishments, their appeals, and their offers.

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Blogger Dave Dave August 02, 2019 8:05 AM  

Those that side with evil are not having a good time. The devil has a twisted sense of humour; taking their souls and giving them shit in return. It is never worth the price paid.

Blogger Doktor Jeep August 02, 2019 8:18 AM  

There will be war

Blogger Jason P August 02, 2019 8:33 AM  

Leftists are creatures of entropy, that is why they've been so successful. ...like shit rolling down hill.

Blogger dh August 02, 2019 8:37 AM  

Their entire purpose, their only objective, is to destroy. That is why no amount of appeals to reason, to capitalism, or to profit motive will ever prevail. That is why creators and builders must always remain awake and on guard against their blandishments, their appeals, and their offers.

This is inaccurate. Your problem is you don't like the message.

The facts are clear and indisputable:

1. More people than in the history of the world know something about an imaginary character named "Thor".
2. The preceding is true because of Marvel/Disney movies.
3. More people became aware of Thor because of the Marvel/Disney movies than all other mediums, over all of recorded history, at any time.
4. The "Thor" that people now know and understand to be "Thor" isn't created in the image of any traditional Thor, but rather, it is a contemporary "new Thor", which you don't like.

The argument that this isn't "creation" but actually "destruction" is false. A new Thor is created. The old Thor still exists. It wasn't destroyed. It remains there, as it always was. John C. Wright is perfectly capable of preserving the Old Thor and handing it down to *anyone who cares to learn about it*. Marvel/Disney didn't do a single thing to it. It is known to all the same people who knew it before. They didn't insert themselves into the brains of movie go-ers and delete the memory of old Thor - *those people never know about old Thor to begin with*.

This yet another whine that Marvel/Disney are master storytellers able to create massively popular, massively successful, massively generic and homogenized stories and characters *that you don't like*.

The same nineteen people who prefer and love old Thor are perfectly able to love old Thor. The old comic books which corrupted and even older Thor are still there. The older story books which corrupted old old Thor are still there. And somewhere far from Hollywood is a great-grandmother who has really old Thor in her memory from a grandparent who told her the stories. Marvel/Disney didn't destroy those stories. They died because no one cares.

No one cares about old old Thor, really old Thor, old Thor. You can whine about it, or you can just make your own new Thor. But don't be surprised when your new Thor isn't that popular and no one cares about your new Thor. Creating new stuff is hard.

Blogger Balkan Yankee August 02, 2019 8:38 AM  

Death to Kiva Lagos.

Blogger Nate August 02, 2019 8:45 AM  

"I am not sure if the word deliberate has any meaning when dealing with minds unable and unwilling to deliberate anything."

may I never be on the wrong side of John C Wright's pen. damn.

Blogger Dave Dave August 02, 2019 8:46 AM  

@4. Marvel absolutely destroyed Thor. It's a destruction the same way that words are destroyed. Gentleman used to mean something specific, but the word was destroyed and now it means nothing. Thor used to mean something, then Marvel came along and rewrote Thor. Then they rewrote what they rewrote. Now, Thor is completely indistinguishable from what he was. That's destruction. People now don't know what Thor is any more. They destroyed him, then their successors destroyed him again, and the successors of the current moochers will destroy the next tranny Thor. They cannot create because they are evil. They pervert and destroy.

You are a despair pill salesman. We don't want your defeatist attitude. If there's something you think is important, at the very least you can preserve it. You are telling us to abandon what we think is important because of some wicked bastards that can't make anything. That is a loser mentality and you should set it aside before trying to sell us despair again.

Blogger Whitecloak August 02, 2019 8:47 AM  

@4 Such apologia might be amusing but it's missing the greater point. This was about far more than Thor. Look at the greater program, the greater picture. That which they have created, that which their enacted ideology brings forth, is a desolation of ever increasing mental malady, decreased family formation, fertility well below replacement, and a host of other blinking red indicators of decline.

They salt the fields and call it progress.

Blogger camcleat August 02, 2019 8:48 AM  

@4

It's cute how you think this is really about a comic book movie character.

Kinda bigger than that. From the referenced material:

"They favor infanticide, divorse, contraception, and euthanasia, but they hate the traditional family."

Blogger Whitecloak August 02, 2019 8:50 AM  

@9 I've noticed that VD's biggest detractors seem to point at the tree and miss that the dark lord is talking about the forest, which is on fire.

I almost wonder if pointing out pop culture items is a rhetorical technique to draw out such nitpickers and create debate on the broader issues.

Blogger Dave Dave August 02, 2019 8:56 AM  

@8. They salt the fields and call it progress because they are progressing towards their goal. There is no lie. They don't value what we value. John C Wright is correct. Subverting and perverting everything and anything is their purpose because they are evil. When we change the lens through which we view the world we can filter out the distractions and see what is happening. The lie was that these enemies of ours had the same goal as us, and that lie we told to ourselves.

Blogger camcleat August 02, 2019 8:58 AM  

Whitecloak wrote:I've noticed that VD's biggest detractors seem to point at the tree and miss that the dark lord is talking about the forest, which is on fire.

Indeed. The deflection they use to diverge the conversation is one of their tried and true techniques. dh is smart enough to know this was not about Thor; suggests he was deflecting on purpose.


I almost wonder if pointing out pop culture items is a rhetorical technique to draw out such nitpickers and create debate on the broader issues.

Yep.

It's also that culture is important to people.

My read of the anger over Ghostbusters, Star Wars, Star Trek and Marvel, as well as other things, is that these things are a proxy for what they see happening all around them.

Wright's essay is spot-on in how it links many seemingly disparate, to some, fronts in the culture war. The pattern is unmistakable except to those that either stick their head in the sand or are pretending in order to deceive.

Blogger Sillon August 02, 2019 9:01 AM  

@4

1. More people than in the history of the world know something about an imaginary character named "Thor".

This is irrelevant and not what is being discussed.

2. The preceding is true because of Marvel/Disney movies.

3. More people became aware of Thor because of the Marvel/Disney movies than all other mediums, over all of recorded history, at any time.


Disney didn't came with the Thor character people know and love, Marvel Comics made that version of Thor in the 60's

4. The "Thor" that people now know and understand to be "Thor" isn't created in the image of any traditional Thor, but rather, it is a contemporary "new Thor", which you don't like.

No, we don't like what Disney has done to Marvel's version of Thor while pretending it is the same character.

We can smell your shit from several miles away, please spare us the pleasure.

Blogger JG August 02, 2019 9:01 AM  

Is dh the court jester of VP?

Blogger Sargent.matrim August 02, 2019 9:04 AM  

The pattern is too clear and too consistent to not see. As Jesus said, the thief comes to steal, kill and destroy. He gave us the strategy of the evil one 2000 years ago.

A shepherd protects, the anti-shepherd harms the sheep however he can.

The part which saddens me is how thoroughly he's managed to drag the church into this evil leftist perspective.

Blogger VD August 02, 2019 9:06 AM  

You're banned for lying, dh. Go back to Scalzi's. You wormtongues should stick together.

No one cares about old old Thor, really old Thor, old Thor. You can whine about it, or you can just make your own new Thor. But don't be surprised when your new Thor isn't that popular and no one cares about your new Thor. Creating new stuff is hard.

More people already care about the old Thor than care about She-Thor.

You don't know anything about creating new stuff. You've never done it.

I intend to create a new Thor much more in the mold of the old one. And I fully expect that Thor to be more popular than She-Thor ever will be.

Blogger Crush Limbraw August 02, 2019 9:06 AM  

Broad is the way to destruction.
The world before Noah was broad and destructive - and it was destroyed.
There is no biblical evidence that the Kingdom of God is popularly elected.
In fact, the parable of the wheat and tares teaches that the wheat grows as do the tares - until the harvest and the tares are destroyed.
The lesson - you don't reason with the tares - you build His Kingdom!
Now get to work!

Blogger Daniele Grech Pereira August 02, 2019 9:07 AM  

Just accuse one of these creatures of being destructive and full of hate, they go absolutely berserk because they hate it when you figure them out.

Blogger dh August 02, 2019 9:11 AM  

No, we don't like what Disney has done to Marvel's version of Thor while pretending it is the same character.

Whose pretending it's the same character? Marvel/Disney?

No one is pretending anything. Marvel/Disney Thor is Marvel/Disney Thor - something new.

And it looks like they're about to make another new She-Thor or whatever.

You are a despair pill salesman. We don't want your defeatist attitude. If there's something you think is important, at the very least you can preserve it. You are telling us to abandon what we think is important because of some wicked bastards that can't make anything. That is a loser mentality and you should set it aside before trying to sell us despair again.

I am not telling you to do anything. I am telling you the observable facts. Do whatever you want. VD is proposing to create a new Thor. It will new new Thor. It will never be "old Thor".

Blogger dh August 02, 2019 9:12 AM  

You're banned for lying, dh. Go back to Scalzi's. You wormtongues should stick together.

Got it. Messages crossed in the wind. Good luck.

Blogger MidnightSun August 02, 2019 9:13 AM  

You have to ask yourself, "Why?" Why do they seek to destroy all that is good, true and beautiful?
I believe they were never loved and never hugged as children, were probably raise by strangers in a daycare or parents or a nanny who were incapable of love. This is the most important human emotion given to us by God and expressed to us through Jesus Christ. This is the one common denominator I see in many of these people; they do not believe in God, are numb to emotion and therefore incapable of processing truth.

Blogger Dave Dave August 02, 2019 9:15 AM  

dh says "Do what thou wilt". There is no question what master he serves.

Blogger David Ray Milton August 02, 2019 9:25 AM  

DH is gone? But free speeeeccchhh!!!

But really, the article puts it perfectly and has been pointed out by many wise men. The goal is destruction and they have no intent to build anything in its place. Barbarians, who at best think about six-months into the future.

Blogger Ann August 02, 2019 9:29 AM  

After his firstborn was kidnapped and murdered, Charles Lindbergh bought a young German Shepherd to guard his family. It had been named Pal. After a few weeks of getting to know how fierce and protective he was, Lindbergh re-named him Thor. No one kidnapped any of his susequent five American children.

Blogger Joe Smith August 02, 2019 9:40 AM  

@dh Messages aren't crossed in the wind. You lied initially, and have been abusing the words "create" and "destroy" badly enough that they seem to mean nothing to you throughout. I don't believe you actually do get it.

Blogger binks webelf August 02, 2019 9:40 AM  

John C. Wright nailed it.

In the appendices to Lord of the Rings, Tolkien comments that the orc-talk was far fouler than depicted in his book. I would guess so were their deeds, as destroyers beholden to a dominating evil will, simply bent on defiling & destroying the world of men, and leaving a wasteland in its place.

In his Letters, he compared the various 20th century totalitarians and their armies to orcs, enslaved to inhuman ideologies and sent forth to commit unspeakable crimes. Now, we're much more efficient.

As my Boomer father used to say, "Modern society is breeding its own barbarians." They are our peers, kids, and grandkids, turned spiritually into ravening orcs, mindless rebels, ruiners and blindly self-righteous judges. St. Paul describes them in Romans 1.

This is war. Saddle up. No more delay or excuses. The orcs are not coming, they are already here.

Blogger sammibandit August 02, 2019 9:42 AM  

dh, you're simply incorrect.

Thor is a regular in the imaginations of children every time it thunders. This is common in the months of June and July. I was just talking with my parents about him yesterday. Since I'm pregnant, my child was also party to the conversation.

We all know you have a deep distaste for WASPs but you must realize that your distaste needs to be brushed away before you speak and expect to be taken seriously.

Blogger Patrick Kelly August 02, 2019 9:50 AM  

The demons rage because they can't create, only converge, pervert and destroy. They cannot be satisfied with their filth and darkness in only their abode, they must hunt down and destroy beauty and extinguish light. The existence of light and beauty torments them because they know they may never truly have or be either.

I never really read or cared about comics much, discovered most of their universe and lore through the movies, but I care about this.

They use this worlds money to purchase the earthly right to destroy the old Thor and replace him with their lame, weak, evil dark vision of what they would declare heroic.

But darkness will never comprehend the light.

Blogger Andy August 02, 2019 9:51 AM  

Dh sounds like someone who masturbates too much.

Blogger RandyB August 02, 2019 9:54 AM  

"Some... just want to watch the world burn."

Nolan nailed it with that line.

Blogger pdwalker August 02, 2019 10:01 AM  

i find it hard to think of dh as anything other than either deliberately obtuse or a troll.

it’s like if i dropped myself in the middle of the atlantic while shouting, “i’m not wet”.

Blogger Gregory the Tall August 02, 2019 10:20 AM  

@Andy Evick, re dh masturbating: dh might rightfully respond: you are just whining about the fact that Disney masturbators are master masturbators that have introduced millions of people to their new form of masturbation. They have therefore created something new which we should appreciate as creating is not easy. The old form of masturbation and its 19 adherents still remain, however.

Blogger Unknownsailor August 02, 2019 10:22 AM  

John C Wright missed one:

"They hate cops , but want only cops to have firearms, no one else."

"The most glaring example of the cognitive dissonance on the left is the concept that human beings are inherently good, yet at the same time cannot be trusted with any kind of weapon, unless the magic fairy dust of government authority gets sprinkled upon them.-- Moshe Ben-David"
-Unknownsailor-

Blogger Damelon Brinn August 02, 2019 10:23 AM  

My read of the anger over Ghostbusters, Star Wars, Star Trek and Marvel, as well as other things, is that these things are a proxy for what they see happening all around them.

They are. Also, they are part of the shared cultural language that binds us together. If I quote the Iliad at another Gen-Xer, I'll probably get a blank look. But if I say "Bueller....Bueller...." or "Do or do not, there is no try," he will know what I'm getting at.

We can say that's pathetic and we should all know Homer, and we might be right, but this is the world we live in. These movies are part of how we communicate and how we recognize each other. Corrupt them and you break down the bonds between us.

Blogger Nate August 02, 2019 10:24 AM  

"i find it hard to think of dh as anything other than either deliberately obtuse or a troll"

dh has commented here for damn near a decade. He isn't a troll.

Blogger Fuzzums Wuzzums August 02, 2019 10:25 AM  

When stupidity is readily apparent always assume malice instead.

Blogger Nikolai Collushnikov August 02, 2019 10:26 AM  

Right. They didn't destroy Thor. They mislabeled a different character.

Blogger Quicksilver August 02, 2019 10:29 AM  

"dh has commented here for damn near a decade. He isn't a troll."

Not a troll but a wormtongue. I like this rhetoric. These verbal contortionists have always irked me the wrong way.

Ive always been intrigued about the fact that if you abuse language hard enough you can mKe an argument in favour of any damn thing. And these days people like him do.

But Truth is beyond language.

Blogger Elijah August 02, 2019 10:30 AM  

the war is here. however our troops are diminishing. a statistic in breitbart said that white Americans average age is 58 while the Hispanic "residents" average age is 11. For every one white baby born in Texas 9 Hispanics either sneak over the border or drop a baby. A 9 - 1 replacement ratio is demographic death.

If the shooting back ( they are already shooting at us)does not start soon our side will be too old to carry a weapon.

Blogger Gregory the Tall August 02, 2019 10:30 AM  

Nate, two possibilites:
a. dh was an intelligence asset all along
B. dh has changed, confirming my impression that evolution is not unilinear.

Blogger SebastianX1/9 August 02, 2019 10:33 AM  

"They side with terrrorists over the Jews, jihadists over homosexuals..."

For a minute, I thought he was talking about...

Blogger kurt9 August 02, 2019 10:34 AM  

Mr. Write is right. The Left produces nothing of value. Yet they seek to involve themselves with and have control over all others that do create value. The Mars video I saw last night is representative of this mentality. This is a very zero-sum mentality. Of course it will lead to conflict because zero-sum always results in conflict.

Blogger Warunicorn August 02, 2019 10:34 AM  

"This yet another whine that Marvel/Disney are master storytellers able to create massively popular, massively successful, massively generic and homogenized stories and characters *that you don't like*."

That's so precious. lol

Like I said the other day, *they* can choke on the mediocrity that pass as "stories" these days.

What you call "master storytellers" are nothing more than charlatans stealing, repackaging and re-presenting a "story" to idiots who lap it up. (See: Just about every Disney property nowadays. Why do you want to see a CGI version of "The Lion King" or "Aladdin"? Are you that hard up for entertainment?) Most morons probably don't even know the mythological story of Thor.

But that's OK as I know they don't know any chorale masterworks by, say, Ockeghem or DuFay, choosing to listen to the dreck that infests the current most-listened to music streams as I take a cursory glance at Spotify.

MPAI

Blogger sammibandit August 02, 2019 10:40 AM  

Warunicorn,

Those are good examples of bad stories. The originals on which they're based are much better: Hamlet and 1001 Arabian Nights, Ali Baba and the 40 Theives I think is the specific story.

Kimba the White Lion done in anime style is a much better story done decades before the Disney version.

You have to be blind and deaf to think Disney tells story well.

Blogger mgh August 02, 2019 10:40 AM  

The creation of new Thors that dh endorses results in a thousand Thors. My Thor is not the same as your Thor. It is another part of the satanic process of making us all individual special kings, so self absorbed that we ultimately cannot communicate or empathize with any other human.

Blogger Raker_T August 02, 2019 10:44 AM  

Well...was dh their best shot, their best argument? No wonder they make distractions.

Blogger Doktor Jeep August 02, 2019 10:52 AM  

Silly Grimma McWormtongueshekelbergsteins think this is just about comics.
With the leftists and their SJWs, long before they attack anything, it's not even about the thing they attack. There is literal rubbing of the hands and wondering what to mess with next.
That's why their writers suck. They are not writing because they have a story to tell.

Blogger Uncle John's Band August 02, 2019 10:55 AM  

And another child of the lie exhausts whatever observational value it may have had...

Blogger kurt9 August 02, 2019 11:00 AM  

I meant Mr. Wright. Sorry for the misspelling.

Blogger Daniel August 02, 2019 11:02 AM  

Dh has a point. It is eerily similar to the new Yugoslavia. The old one is still there. No one destroyed anything.

Blogger Damelon Brinn August 02, 2019 11:13 AM  

No one destroyed anything.

They're not done yet.

This is a lot like the craft beer brewing discussion. It's true that you can still watch the original Star Wars trilogy and pretend the rest never happened, just as you can still make beer in your basement no matter how much they screw up the brewing organizations. But if you want to go out and talk to other people about Star Wars--or about brewing--it does matter. No, they can't come into your house and destroy your DVDs, but they can destroy the cultural value those franchises have if we aren't even all talking about the same thing when we say "Star Wars."

Blogger peacefulposter August 02, 2019 11:14 AM  

@45 mgh - The creation of new Thors that dh endorses results in a thousand Thors. My Thor is not the same as your Thor. It is another part of the satanic process of making us all individual special kings, so self absorbed that we ultimately cannot communicate or empathize with any other human.

It is also about eliminating the Truth, as everyone can now have their own "truth" and moral relativity.

Blogger Nate August 02, 2019 11:18 AM  

"Nate, two possibilites:"

C: DH is a dude that escaped horrible situations in Yugoslavia… and had to do horrible things to make that happen. Made it to America and worked to become American. Now... as America becomes more nationalist and more nativist... it is causing him to doubt his position in the in-group. And not being in the in-group has caused some severe shit in his life. Shit that I would argue virtually none of you can imagine outside of a movie.

Blogger Borsabil August 02, 2019 11:29 AM  


"As Jesus said, the thief comes to steal, kill and destroy. He gave us the strategy of the evil one 2000 years ago."

I was sent a video of the little autistic boy, the one that appeared on GMA to be lauded as stunning and brave for performing in gay strip clubs. He was at the New York pride event literally twerking on the crotch of a random degenerate. They want our children, he wants our children. In a couple of decades they'll be building temples to Moloch and calling out objections to child sacrifice as hateful bigotry. You think I'm kidding? Draw a line from 20 years ago to where we are now and keep going. They're not going to stop, they can't stop, their master won't let them.

Blogger Stilicho August 02, 2019 11:31 AM  

From the beginning, dh was a wormtongue. Less obvious than the typical despair troll, he sought to create doubt in the guise of "questions" and insidious manipulation of the conversation via "whataboutism". What fooled some people was that he did not pretend to be of the right. Perhaps he could be better classified as the Mouth of Sauron.

Blogger Mark Stoval August 02, 2019 11:38 AM  

@53 Nate

"Shit that I would argue virtually none of you can imagine outside of a movie."

Point taken.

I have been outside the "in group" all my life. I might still need a movie though.

Blogger Doktor Jeep August 02, 2019 11:40 AM  

Yep. Went to get some ingredients at the Brewer supply store yesterday.
Gaggle of roasties all bottling some wine. Middle aged, every one of them fat. I get a sea of dirty looks but being a turbo Omega I get that from all strangers so no big deal.
Outside, a Prius with a "Proud Democrat" bumper sticker.

Makes me think. Everything these people are programmed to do, they do. This is why they try to SJWize everything. The content might not even be a target. The fools are.
Hey Schlomo, my craft beer supply company is lagging. Some help?
Sure, Sol, I know who to make this popular to. I have the perfect group. They are so empty inside they even went for a female Thor.

Blogger Fuzzums Wuzzums August 02, 2019 11:42 AM  

Marvel already replaced Thor a long time ago with the fan-favorite Beta Ray Bill. Everybody loves that character so why not have someone like him continue the Thor franchise? Because he embodies masculine traits which cannot be allowed to be idealized.

Looking back at the most recent Thor movie they basically replaced him with Thor. It was Beta Ray Bill who was supposed to face the Hulk in the arena and escape. So he is popular, his stories translate well to film, his look is excellent for selling toys. Yet they went with a completely different character who is unpopular, whose backstory is virtually unknown, and whose merchandising potential is null.

They went for the comics first and the movies second because this way they have the excuse of "no, no, it's not an agenda, it's about sticking to the source material!".




Unrelated but in the comics the reason why Cpt. America couldn't wield Mjolnir was because he was supposed to be the USA symbol and having him wield a Norse weapon would have been confusing. Thus when he wields the hammer in Endgame it's actually just another jab at national identity.

Blogger Nate August 02, 2019 11:45 AM  

"From the beginning, dh was a wormtongue"

no. He was and is a liberal. he never claimed to be on our side. He simply claimed to like us. Which I believe he genuinely did.

Blogger Balam August 02, 2019 11:47 AM  

dh wrote:The old Thor still exists. It wasn't destroyed. It remains there, as it always was. John C. Wright is perfectly capable of preserving the Old Thor and handing it down to *anyone who cares to learn about it*. Marvel/Disney didn't do a single thing to it. It is known to all the same people who knew it before. They didn't insert themselves into the brains of movie go-ers and delete the memory of old Thor - *those people never know about old Thor to begin with*.

This yet another whine that Marvel/Disney are master storytellers able to create massively popular, massively successful, massively generic and homogenized stories and characters *that you don't like*.


The statements here, that 'the old thing still exists so don't mind what people do in the name of that old thing' is purporting that power and reach matter more than truth. I don't know how to phrase it exactly but I am reminded of China's method of trying to exterminate the Tibetans by simply flooding their lands with Han and trying to breed them out. China holds up its hands and says, "Hey, I'm not outright exterminating people with flamethrowers, I'm just exercising my right to have sex." which sounds good and legal on the surface. However there's an obvious intention behind the mass movements and patterns of the Han involved which has caused the Dali Lama to call it a genocide.

So is the intentional crowding out and corruption of a thing, such as the Tibetan people or the stories of Thor, a wanton attempt at destruction or simply sour grapes (as dh would say)?

Of course it is destruction and war. Surround a flowerbed with weeds and see which is alive and thriving at the end of the season. Mass migration is war, cultural dilution is war and taking icons/names and blaspheming them is war. The first question that comes to mind: if Disney and their hanger-ons are so confident that, "Marvel/Disney are master storytellers able to create massively popular, massively successful, massively generic and homogenized stories and characters" why use the name Thor at all? Surely they could have named him "Perun","Dumbo-hands", "Beta Ray Bill" or virtually any combination of letters that wasn't a thousand years old legend. Disney are masterful and experienced enough that it is not a coincidence that they chose to take the name of Thor.

Blogger sammibandit August 02, 2019 11:50 AM  

Boxed wine Karens

Blogger Gregory the Tall August 02, 2019 12:05 PM  

@Nate: So now it turns out dh has been traumatized in Yugoslavia? He has my sympathy, but getting hurt by somebody or something is no excuse for becoming a liar or a sophist.

Blogger Stilicho August 02, 2019 12:10 PM  

"no. He was and is a liberal. he never claimed to be on our side. He simply claimed to like us. Which I believe he genuinely did."

Thanks for illustrating my point:

"What fooled some people was that he did not pretend to be of the right. Perhaps he could be better classified as the Mouth of Sauron."

Blogger Gen. Kong August 02, 2019 12:11 PM  

That's quite a takedown from Wright. Yes it comes as a surprise to some but the spawn of Satan act like their father. There's even an entire book written about it which was penned in the 1950s in the place now known as San Franshitsco by Seraphim Rose entitled Nihilism. It's a pretty dense read but worth the effort. For a while about a decade ago it was one of the best-selling books in Russia. It gives a detailed description of the process of how the rot infects.

The Devil Mouse is a very good case study of the whole process in action. It destroys all it touches. Among other things, Devil Mouse has completely inverted the copyright law into something close to perpetual copyright, so DH's assertion about the original Thor comic character being free for Wright or anyone else to use is a lie. The only thing free to use is the god from Norse Mythology and illustrations old enough to be free.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan August 02, 2019 12:17 PM  

Marvel, dh and the she-Thor fans put out a shit test which frankly doesn't ruffle my feathers one iota. Hell I would love to ask that spoiled Ivy educated Jewish actress what she thinks of the old Thor and watch her guffaw thru the usual Cult Marx talking points while I mock her evil NPCness script.

It's the world we live in, but one danger was mentioned by a commenter above that they will all but criminalize us and drive us to the basements. The Left has the mind of a scorned woman, they will drive stakes thru you with pity on their lips, sorry gals, sorry white knighters men of virtuous conservative values, thats the facts.

Blogger rycamor August 02, 2019 12:17 PM  

dh is just another casualty of the increasing separation of left and right. He was a somewhat reasonable lefty in the past, but that territory is becoming a no-man's-land. The left is ever on the move into denial of truth, reality, reason and rationality. There is no standing still. It's pretty much impossible to be a lefty and not move with them.

Blogger Done with it all August 02, 2019 12:17 PM  

There is only one response to this but these psychopaths have cowed us all like a bunch of old ladies huddled in the kitchen talking about Fred cheating on his wife.

Blogger Done with it all August 02, 2019 12:20 PM  

We are doing nothing. We are to blame Real men of the west in the past kept this evil in check. So the question really isn't "is evil new" but it is really "are there any real men"?

Blogger Done with it all August 02, 2019 12:23 PM  

The modern males response to this evil invasion "everyday a stranger walks into my house, rapes my wife, makes my son put on a dress, and tells me to shut my mouth. One of these days well I'm gonna..."

Blogger swiftfoxmark2 August 02, 2019 12:27 PM  

The Left is ruled by Envy, a vice that is primarily the vice of women.

Blogger Balkan Yankee August 02, 2019 12:36 PM  

The problem with dh’s sophistry is that it can be applied to historical figures as well as mythical ones. There’s a new racist smear aimed at destroying the historical memory Ronald Reagan. Vox blogged about it yesterday. So here goes . . .

A new memory of Ronald Reagan is created. The old Reagan memory still exists. It wasn't destroyed. It remains there, as it always was. Conservatives are perfectly capable of preserving the Old Reagan and handing it down to *anyone who cares to learn about it*. SJWs didn't do a single thing to it. It is known to all the same people who knew it before. They didn't insert themselves into the brains of people and delete the memory of old Reagan - *those people never know about old Reagan to begin with*.

The same nineteen people who prefer and love old Reagan are perfectly able to love old Reagan.

dh forgot to mention the role played by time and actuarial tables, but you get the point.

Blogger Dan in Georgia August 02, 2019 12:36 PM  

I just read that in Ben Shapiro’s voice. Rogans up.

Blogger Done with it all August 02, 2019 12:38 PM  

It is envy that provides the catalyst that stokes hate so blind the left will destroy the boat they are on to kill another passenger over nothing but hate.

Blogger RC August 02, 2019 12:41 PM  

I spoke with dh IRL about doing work for my company. He came to the U.S. through difficult circumstances and worked his ass off. He was a leftist but was willing to admit he was wrong on rare occasions.

I will make a prediction: dh will be man enough to leave after being disinvited.

Blogger Sterling Pilgrim August 02, 2019 12:43 PM  

Even worse, so many of DH Disney apologetics rely on “if it’s popular, it’s right!”

Blogger Sterling Pilgrim August 02, 2019 12:44 PM  

Now do Christianity.

Blogger tuberman August 02, 2019 12:46 PM  

rycamor wrote:dh is just another casualty of the increasing separation of left and right. He was a somewhat reasonable lefty in the past, but that territory is becoming a no-man's-land. The left is ever on the move into denial of truth, reality, reason and rationality. There is no standing still. It's pretty much impossible to be a lefty and not move with them.

There is always free choice. On the other hand, we will see lots of dh type choices even as the facts become more obvious. As the facts become overwhelming, choices will be forced, often against the Right side that history is moving.

Some of these people that make Fake Choices now, will come back will the strongest hate against the Narrative People later, and they will be on the front of the lines with pitch forks and torches.

Blogger tantonj August 02, 2019 12:49 PM  

Personally, I prefer the term "Juciferians" but that's only a subset of the groups vox is referring to.

Blogger Ingot9455 August 02, 2019 1:11 PM  

At one point Tolkein began a sequel to the Lord Of The Rings. In it, humans in the generation that comes after our heroes leave take up 'orc culture' in order to be edgy and rebellious.

Thankfully he only got a few pages in before he stopped. The truth of it might have been too horrible.

Blogger Garuna August 02, 2019 1:16 PM  

Disney isn't monolithic.

The MCU was run by Trump-supporter Ike Perlmutter until around 2014.

Writer-Director Taika Waititi didn't join the Thor series until 2017.

Though producer Kevin Feige provides a strong connection between the films, it's not really the same people telling these stories from film to film.

So it's not really accurate to say that the same people who built up "New Thor" are the ones defiling him down now.

Of course, this isn't even taking into consideration the comics and its different writers over the years.

Blogger Damelon Brinn August 02, 2019 1:17 PM  

[dh] was and is a liberal.

Right. I'd say he presented that perspective pretty honestly over the years, at least more so than you'll get from 99% of liberals. It seems like something got into him on these last couple topics, but that's his business.

Blogger Pseudotsuga August 02, 2019 1:20 PM  

But the Liberati and Woketariat claim that they love their country-- that's why they want to change it, to get rid of all those bad things that characterize it. Up is down, etc.

Blogger Garuna August 02, 2019 1:24 PM  

dh's doubt about "go woke go broke" is understandable, especially considering the MCU audience leans more SJW than average.

But Disney went full SJW with Star Wars and bombed.

With Phase Woke and Black Ariel, they're going full SJW with the MCU and their cartoon live-action series as well. If these they start bombing too, then there's really no doubt about the reality of "go woke go broke".

Blogger sammibandit August 02, 2019 1:44 PM  

Rhetorical question; would a leftist give any of us the benefit of the doubt? Would a leftist give any of their own the benefit of the doubt?

Blogger tuberman August 02, 2019 1:51 PM  

Choices are being forced by the extreme Narratives. Beyond comics there is Climate Change and the current Italian Meetings between the DNC and some Globalist super-yacht flakes, to decide how to push the fear for one of their strongest Narrative Myths. They believe this crap is a winner.

Meanwhile all the news, all the schools, and all the large corporation's cultures are all playing for these Narratives, BUT IT IS LOSING, BECAUSE THEY ARE FAKE.

Tons of kids believe in Climate Change (Ecology), believe that perhaps they should become Vegans (cruelty free), and having drinking straw debates (plastic ruining everything, environment again), because 1/3 truths to all of this, and kids not being smart enough to know Baltimore is the reality of the people pushing this stuff.

Blogger peacefulposter August 02, 2019 2:07 PM  

@85 - Thanks for the reminder I need to order me some Trump straws.

Blogger FP August 02, 2019 2:11 PM  

Unknown wrote:John C Wright missed one:

"They hate cops , but want only cops to have firearms, no one else."

"The most glaring example of the cognitive dissonance on the left is the concept that human beings are inherently good, yet at the same time cannot be trusted with any kind of weapon, unless the magic fairy dust of government authority gets sprinkled upon them.-- Moshe Ben-David"

-Unknownsailor-


Conservatives are loathe to touch the thin blue line in politics. Condemn the government but not its enforcers or revenuers.

Hard to avoid the reality though when deputies are shooting boomers in their own homes on a silent cell phone based alarm call in South Carolina. Just shot through the window after shining a light, scared of the pistol he saw in the homeowners hand.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FvTQySMam4

Blogger Ariadne Umbrella August 02, 2019 2:12 PM  

Since all the children I know have had both Greek and Norse mythology read to them, I'd say young people care a great deal about mythology. The Percy Jackson books set out what was so great about Western Civ, each book, in about a paragraph near the end of a cracking adventure yarn. Most kids went and looked up the rest of Western Civ or mythology stuff because they loved the books or the movies. The books did not start with a lecture, and there was no droning going on, at all.

Blogger sammibandit August 02, 2019 2:14 PM  

@tuberman

These people don't even understand that CO2 is a necessary input for plant life. You can talk till you're blue in the face about grade school chemistry equations and they still don't get it. They're convinced they'll suffocate on something their body produces autonomically.

Blogger sammibandit August 02, 2019 2:17 PM  

Hercules is a long running animated show airing before school on weekdays for a reason. On Saturdays there was also the newer animated version and in the pre-primetime on Saturdays the live action Kevin Sorbo show.

Blogger VD August 02, 2019 2:22 PM  

it is causing him to doubt his position in the in-group. And not being in the in-group has caused some severe shit in his life.

I understand and I'm not unsympathetic. I don't dislike DH. But I'm not going to tolerate repeated episodes of sophistry for any reason.

And my tolerance for people playing dumb is extremely low.

As the societal stress rises, it's going to be increasingly hard on those with identity complications.

Blogger Andrew Jackson August 02, 2019 2:27 PM  

You are so right.

Blogger tuberman August 02, 2019 2:33 PM  

sammibandit wrote:@tuberman

These people don't even understand that CO2 is a necessary input for plant life. You can talk till you're blue in the face about grade school chemistry equations and they still don't get it. They're convinced they'll suffocate on something their body produces autonomically.


Yep, you're correct. Many FACTS against Climate Narrative, but these kids are repeatedly told by their teaches that you are being Political for stating the FACTS. That's why culture wars including Arkhaven Comics and a Non-SJW Thor are extremely important.

The desire of kids to feel morally superior to everyone who does not swim with these Narratives is strong.

Blogger Whitecloak August 02, 2019 2:34 PM  

@93 Even if the climate narrative were true, the answers such demands are the very things they decry the most.

Lower carry capacity, which is what the climate narrative is postulating, calls for high walls and mass deportations, that our grandchildren may eat and live in peace. Anything else would be suicidal.

Blogger matveidaniilovich August 02, 2019 2:40 PM  

Wait... dh is Slavoj Zizek?

Blogger SirHamster August 02, 2019 3:08 PM  

dh wrote:Their entire purpose, their only objective, is to destroy. That is why no amount of appeals to reason, to capitalism, or to profit motive will ever prevail. That is why creators and builders must always remain awake and on guard against their blandishments, their appeals, and their offers.

This is inaccurate. Your problem is you don't like the message.

The facts are clear and indisputable:

1. More people than in the history of the world know something about an imaginary character named "Thor".

2. The preceding is true because of Marvel/Disney movies.

3. More people became aware of Thor because of the Marvel/Disney movies than all other mediums, over all of recorded history, at any time.

4. The "Thor" that people now know and understand to be "Thor" isn't created in the image of any traditional Thor, but rather, it is a contemporary "new Thor", which you don't like.

Did not expect such a clear example of an "obviously false syllogism" to pop up like this.

1. Vox says Satanist objective is to destroy.

2. Disney movies made Thor well known.

3. Therefore, Satanist objective is not to destroy.


Interesting that dh associated Satanist with Disney.

One specific truth that was hidden using the false syllogism: Disney made Thor really well known so that they could destroy Thor and replace him with Thorina.

Blogger Daniel August 02, 2019 3:10 PM  

No. He is an admirable, long-time commenter on the horns of a dilemma who has chosen to follow his leanings away from the truth because the fantasy is more comforting.

Blogger Nate August 02, 2019 3:25 PM  

"I understand and I'm not unsympathetic. I don't dislike DH. But I'm not going to tolerate repeated episodes of sophistry for any reason.

And my tolerance for people playing dumb is extremely low.

As the societal stress rises, it's going to be increasingly hard on those with identity complications."

I don't have a problem with the decision and I understand it completely. I mean we were predicting this over at the secret club house back on Tuesday. A particular commenter saw it first but anyone paying attention could see where this was leading... and it was only going to end like this.

No... my issue is with those making idiotic and ignorant comments about a genuinely good man that is not handling it well.

God knows I have been in those shoes. Still... at some point you simply have to suck it up and stand with the Truth... consequences be damned. And I suspect on some level DH knows that. its just that he's got a better idea than most exactly how bad those consequences can be.

Blogger sammibandit August 02, 2019 3:28 PM  

@tuberman and Whitecloak

We're dealing with people who don't know they're trained in positivism--perverse materialism predicated on not trusting the senses, everything is verifiable and measurable by man made tools--and scientism--obsession with process over results and cocomittant outsourcing of logic to personally unknown credentialists, things don't exist unless a gamma nerd with a mic hookup says as such. These systems of thought appear to be at odds with each other. How can a positivist who worships at the altar of science outsource his own thought to people whose ideas he refuses to verify? How can he trust the perception of his own senses if those senses must be used to measure and verify? In short, he can't.

When VD says SJWs always project that means they also project their own belief systems as well as their own hangups. The SJW will look at a male and female wolf skull and say they are the same. They won't see markers of sex found in other mammals like a rounded cranial vault in females and a sloping one in males. They won't see that the male skull is bigger or that the mandible is more robust with bigger and rougher muscle attachment areas.

So if you went to them and said slope x on specimen 1 is at a bigger angle than slope x on specimen 2 their positivistic training won't engage but instead their scientistic training will. Each functions to blind the other. Each function exists to trip up the intellectual other.

Blogger Noah B. August 02, 2019 3:40 PM  

In case it hasn't set in how despicable SJWs are -- I noticed a little while ago on Youtube that prayers for Grant Thompson (from The King of Random) and his family are being censored from the comment section. Make any mention of God in the context of a prayer and the comment doesn't get displayed.

Blogger kurt9 August 02, 2019 4:02 PM  

The craft beer issue is a textbook example of how leftists do not create value. The lady who wrote the newspaper opinion complained about how "white hipster males" dominate the craft brewery scene. My wife and I regularly eat out at this places. I can tell you most of them are shoe-string operations that do not involve a huge amount of start-up capital. The lady who wrote the article knows this fact. If she thinks there are too many white guys doing craft breweries, whats to keep her and her friends, or anyone else of "color" from going out and starting their own craft brewery? The answer is nothing. Yet, instead of starting their own craft brewery, all they do is complain about the ones own and run by white guys. Its the same with the computer and, now, the board games.

These leftist SJW's produce no value of their own. Yet they feel qualified to complain about the productivity of others. This makes them parasites in my book.

Blogger DonReynolds August 02, 2019 4:13 PM  

In human experience in Europe and North America (and probably everywhere else) there has always been a slow-burning contest between two minds...One says that everyone must do it the same way, even if they don't want to and the other says that they do not have to live and think and believe the same way. Yes, I am using a very wide brush.

The first, I will call the authoritarian mind, which tolerates nothing they do not approve, and the second, I will call the liberty mind, which can tolerate pretty much anything, short of malum in se. (Defined as wrong or evil in itself, conduct assessed as sinful or inherently wrong by nature, independent of regulations governing the conduct.)

The Leftist Liberal SJW does not find themselves to live in an authoritarian society, but they want it to be, as long as they are the sole authority. So the only opportunity they have to accomplish that goal is to label everything they do not like as sinful, or wrong, or immoral, or otherwise repugnant. We have seen this in much of their success at destroying the existing society, issue after issue.

In this way, their authoritarian mind can be satisfied that everyone and everything is permitted only with their approval, because anything else is declared malum in se. Yeah, it is a slow process at times because liberty must be limited a step at a time....by the environment and global warming, by race relations, by gender, by socioeconomic class, by employer-employee relationships, by citizen-foreign relations. It seems slow because liberty must be defeated in detail and every step must be sure and calculated, and because it is probably irreversible. So the society founded on liberty becomes one based on authority, without changing the mythology and the mores and the ethos of the people. We can still call it capitalism, even though it has become a command economy. We can still say there is private property, when there is nothing private about it, and the property rights are closely circumscribed. We can even invent democracy, where it never existed before, and proclaim the fake history that ours was always a democracy.

Blogger OvergrownHobbit August 02, 2019 4:15 PM  

No, we don't like what Disney has done to Marvel's version of Thor while pretending it is the same character.

Whose pretending it's the same character? Marvel/Disney?

No one is pretending anything. Marvel/Disney Thor is Marvel/Disney Thor - something new.


Old Comic book Thor was loved by a lot of people. Marvel took OC Thor, brought him into the movie medium, telling an OC Thor story. It was widely successful. Because skilful movie craftsmanship is appealing to watch AND because OC Thor was fun. It shared American patrimony and traditional values with the next generation.

Now Disney/Marvel is replacing OC Thor with New Clown World Thor telling a new clown world story.

They will use Old America movie craftsmanship to make an appealing story. Disney / Marvel still haven't inclusivated that part yet.

OC Thor, and more importantly OC Thor stories will be gone. People will either abandon movies (and there goes the next generation of movie-makers).

Or accept NCW Thor as the only option for sort-of fun-ish but not so much now movies. Thus erasing more of the patrimony and values.

What you may not realize is that they are counting on the gay, trannie, feminist-Muslim Thor of the hugely popular with teens Rick Riordan to create enough of an audience to keep the game going long enough to utterly erase the patrimony.


And who's going stop this behemoth? You? And that's the lie Mr. DH told. And it's a shame.

And that is why men like Vox Day, who build up, and over, and around are above rubies, even when they torque you off.

Blogger OneWingedShark August 02, 2019 4:19 PM  

sammibandit wrote:Rhetorical question; would a leftist give any of us the benefit of the doubt? Would a leftist give any of their own the benefit of the doubt?
It's possible, at least in theory, due to the fact that the left-right scale is [by design] a relative one. It's also possible that a leftist could be of the "indoctrinated into it" public-schools, but still have respect for his fellow-man. -- I would say that the YouTuber Tim Pool probably fits this criteria very well, from what I've seen of his videos.

I find the relative nature of the "left-right"-scale to be troublesome in that it makes things a lot harder in situations like this, where you're refereeing to "a leftist". For example, JFK would be considered Right-wing in today's measuring, even though he was Democrat then would be considered unelectable as a Dem today, probably be considered as unelectable by much of the GOP-leadership (for being too nationalistic, and perhaps for being "too far right", too).

FP wrote:Conservatives are loathe to touch the thin blue line in politics. Condemn the government but not its enforcers or revenuers.
While I tend to be fairly negative in my view of the police, I will admit they are in a tough spot: they are given terribly unjust laws to enforce, and often prevented [politically] from enforcing them justly. — In this, the no-win scenario, they have my sympathy and empathy.

OTOH, we also have the political pushing for police of… questionable characteristics. I've heard from several that many places are discriminating against higher intelligence in hiring police officers, often with the implication that the high-intelligence officer is more likely to question/refuse orders, which feeds well with why a lot of police departments like to hire [ex-]military.

Blogger JonM August 02, 2019 4:29 PM  

Meanwhile...

"Gillette CEO Gary Coombe said he does not regret his company's controversial marketing campaign targeted at the #MeToo movement even though the company has taken an $8 billion hit.


Coombe called it a "price worth paying" in a Monday interview"

A CEO's fiduciary responsibility to shareholders takes a distant second place to fulfilling his duty to the Narrative.

Blogger sammibandit August 02, 2019 4:54 PM  

OneWingedShark wrote:sammibandit wrote:Rhetorical question; would a leftist give any of us the benefit of the doubt? Would a leftist give any of their own the benefit of the doubt?

It's possible, at least in theory, due to the fact that the left-right scale is [by design] a relative one. It's also possible that a leftist could be of the "indoctrinated into it" public-schools, but still have respect for his fellow-man. -- I would say that the YouTuber Tim Pool probably fits this criteria very well, from what I've seen of his videos.

I find the relative nature of the "left-right"-scale to be troublesome in that it makes things a lot harder in situations like this, where you're refereeing to "a leftist". For example, JFK would be considered Right-wing in today's measuring, even though he was Democrat then would be considered unelectable as a Dem today, probably be considered as unelectable by much of the GOP-leadership (for being too nationalistic, and perhaps for being "too far right", too)..


Possible but not plausible. I say that because even Tim Pool has a hard time going off his well-worn goat trails. The left doesn't trust him which is a big tell about his character. He's in the centre that cannot hold. If he gives benefit of the doubt it's rhetorical or obfuscating. I almost think he's Chicago School because he is obfuscating. Well he is from Chicago, but that's circumstantial.

When I say leftist I should specify I mean New Left, the post 1968 Frankfurt School/Chicago School style Left informed by Derp Ecology and all the claptrap Gen X was raised on. If they operated in other countries they'd be called neoliberals but domestically they're neocons.

Maybe I'm shooting from the hip behind a blind. I should say I used to be hard left. I couldn't even trust my own emotions back then. Logic? Forget it. But I wasn't always so silly so once I stopped being an alcoholic I found that clarity of thought increased.

I agree that the left/right divide is pretty silly because it's relative. It doesn't have an absolute measure geographically or chronologically. In that way it's very "scientific". It ought to have at least one other variable, maybe two.

Blogger Mark Stoval August 02, 2019 5:12 PM  

DonReynolds wrote:In human experience in Europe and North America (and probably everywhere else) there has always been a slow-burning contest between two minds...

Thomas Sowell used "visions" to describe this conflict.

Vision 1) The people who see human nature as unchanging and man as a flawed creature. So, don't give him to much power as he will surely misuse it. Also, there is no way men can control all events. Life is full of choices that are trade-offs.

Vision 2) The people who believe that man is perfectible and that human nature will be change until we are perfected and life on earth is a heaven. So, anything that stands in the way of this great work is therefore EVIL. Killing those that stand in the way of the work of perfecting man is justified by the results that will surely come.

The "unconstrained vision" (#2) is the SJW/Leftist people who don't really ever see reality. They live in an alternate universe from you and I.

Blogger Doktor Jeep August 02, 2019 5:25 PM  

I think what DH misses is the why.
They are not doing this because they think that somehow their versions of things are so much better that they must do it. And they are not billing this as any parody either.
It's purely an attack. An assault. That's why the script is going to suck, the plot is going to be stupid, and all other aspects of train wreck will be visited.
What DH probably has not seen is lefty Twitter whenever some franchise or genre gets pozzed. Let me display exactly what happened to me over the prospect of a female Doctor Who:
Me: well I guess it's possible after all they use different actors and the doctor degenerates or something. Might be a new twist for an old show. Not a big deal.
Leftist bluehairs on Twitter: haha! Female Doctor Who! Eat shit, shitlords! Haha! Male tears! The future is female!
Me: ah screw it I won't bother.
Them: Misogyny!!!!!!

The way these people act is enough to see that yes, this is ear. From games to gulags, they are out to get us.

Blogger Laughingdog August 02, 2019 5:37 PM  

Dh,
Is this your first time on Vox's site, or are you really that dimwitted? No one here is talking about "Norse Mythology" Thor.

Disney is replacing the Marvel Thor everyone has known of for decades with some kind of Trans/lesbian/SJW Thor.

Blogger Laughingdog August 02, 2019 5:38 PM  

Most of his detractors are basically saying "The train is fine".

Blogger camcleat August 02, 2019 6:02 PM  

FP wrote:

Conservatives are loathe to touch the thin blue line in politics.


That's a fact, though I wonder if this is fading as the Boomers die off. On TTAG in years past, there was often commentary against the cops when the cops screwed up, and that crowd was hardly "leftist."

But, it is a problem. In NC, for example, a major pro-gun bit of legislation a few years ago was defeated. The bill was a good one and was initially very strongly supported.

Then, one hard left leaning Sheriff stirred up the "Muh Law and Ordah" rhetoric arguing how the bill was going to lead to rivers of cops' blood in the streets. Didn't take long for the rest of the Sheriff's Association to jump on board that bandwagon, and support for the bill died a back-room death.

At that time, the State was far more openly "Right" than it is now. All it took to defeat a pro-freedom bill was the claim "bad for cops" and the "Conservative" masses fell for it.

Even having known about this phenomenon for years, I was stunned at the time at just how effective this rhetoric was and quickly it worked.

Blogger wahr01 August 02, 2019 6:47 PM  

@112

Maybe in the pre-trump years.
Now cops are seen as the partisan guardians of Antifa.

Blogger Damelon Brinn August 02, 2019 9:46 PM  

While I tend to be fairly negative in my view of the police,

Me too, but for a different reason than the leftist. I don't like them because too often they're mindless enforcers for overbearing government. The leftist doesn't like cops because to him they represent law and order, which opposes his efforts to destroy civilization.

It's the same way with their view on Israel. Leftists don't support Palestinians because they think Israel is just as bad or worse. They do it because they see Israel as part of Western Civilization, so they want to tear it down along with the rest. In other words, like many conservatives, they believe in Judeo-Christianity.

Blogger Robert Pinkerton August 02, 2019 9:55 PM  

"Perfectability of Man' is the highest stupidity that the educated mind can attain. (By "stupidity" is meant "knowing[?]" as if Gospel what is false-to-fact.)

Blogger Peter Millen August 02, 2019 10:46 PM  

Vox,

I think you would find these articles to be interesting and informative (both quote you):

Atheism and sociopathy:
https://www.conservapedia.com/Atheism_and_sociopathy

Atheism and its anti-civilizational effects:

https://www.conservapedia.com/Atheism_and_its_anti-civilizational_effects

Blogger Valley Forge Patriot August 02, 2019 11:05 PM  

Sir Winston had the answer decades ago. Read, heed, memorize and spread:

"I tell you, it's no use arguing with a Communist. It's no good trying to covert a Communist, or persuade him. You can only deal with them on the following basis: by having superior force on your side on the matter in question - and they must also be convinced that you will use - you will not hesitate to use - these forces, if necessary, in the most ruthless manner...that you are not restrained by any moral consideration if the case arose from using that force with complete material ruthlessness. And that is the greatest chance of peace, the surest road to peace."

- Winston Churchill, March 25, 1949, Ritz-Carlton Hotel, NYC.

Oh, #60 Balam, speaking of flamethrowers:

https://youtu.be/07rtBip9ixk

Legal in 49 States (outlawed in the People's Republic of California). A squadron of 8 drones could do serious damage to an Antifa attack. Flame On!

Blogger Rabid Ratel August 03, 2019 3:37 AM  

Valley Forge Patriot wrote:A squadron of 8 drones could do serious damage to an Antifa attack. Flame On!

Battledrones!

Blogger aps August 03, 2019 5:15 AM  

SJW + Science = Space Vampires.

Blogger basementhomebrewer August 03, 2019 8:26 AM  

The lie presented in the "old Thor" , "New Thor", "New New Thor" is easy to understand if we trade a pagan religious icon for any more wide spread religious figures. Would Muslims sit idly by while a "new Muhammad" was created? Would true believers in Christ sit by for a popularized set of "new Christ" stories?

The answer is yes for the tepid believers but an absolute no for the faithful of either religion. The reason is it is a transparent attempt to corrupt the memory/message of the original for those who remember and replace the original with a less appealing version spreading a different message for the newly initiated. Especially when the people making such "new" stories are putting huge amounts of money behind it to spread the "new" figure. Money that was obtained though interest in the original figure.

Blogger basementhomebrewer August 03, 2019 8:33 AM  

Make no mistake that the eventual goal will be to rewrite Christ into an obscene blasphemy. Think of all the SJW causes they would like to claim Christ was crucified for, by the patriarchal Romans no less! It will be attempted eventually. It already has been attempted on small scale.

Blogger RobertDWood August 03, 2019 4:00 PM  

Can't be. A jester ought to elicit laughter, this one summons only bile.

Blogger Dirk Manly August 04, 2019 1:48 AM  

@14

"Is dh the court jester of VP?"

Obviously not.

The court jester is the only one who is allowed to tell the king the truth, no matter how unpalatable or unpopular it may be to the king.

In contrast, dh throws up a word salad to hide his lies.

Blogger Dirk Manly August 04, 2019 1:51 AM  

@10

"Whose pretending it's the same character? Marvel/Disney?

No one is pretending anything. Marvel/Disney Thor is Marvel/Disney Thor - something new."

If they meant for it to be a new character, they wouldn't be calling it THOR.

Blogger Dirk Manly August 04, 2019 1:58 AM  

@35

"dh has commented here for damn near a decade. He isn't a troll."

And he USUALLY trolled when he did so. Always polluting every thread he participated in with leftist talking points dressed up with academe/state-employee word salad.

Blogger Dirk Manly August 04, 2019 2:24 AM  

@101

"These leftist SJW's produce no value of their own. Yet they feel qualified to complain about the productivity of others. This makes them parasites in my book."

Even as a 4-year old child in 1969, it was plainly evident to me that the rabble-rousers marching in the street and complaining about everything offered exactly NOTHING to replace what they demanded to be destroyed. And thus, before I even entered kindergarten, I already had developed a lifelong hatred of hippies, and ANYBODY who is STUPID enough to repeat their idiotic arguments.

Ignorance can be cured -- it's merely the condition of lacking information.

Stupidity is incurable -- it's doing the wrong thing DESPITE having a more than sufficient amount of the relevant information, data, and knowledge.

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