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Friday, August 09, 2019

The first unsealed Epstein documents

Surprisingly, no serious evidence against Bill Clinton has yet surfaced from the unsealed documents. But, as expected, the connection to Trump, far from being damning, is almost exculpatory.
The first trove of documents has been unsealed in the 2015 defamation case brought against Ghislaine Maxwell by Virginia Roberts. The documents were made public Friday morning just moments after the US Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit upheld the decision to make public over 2000 pages of court filings that had previously been under seal.

Those documents reveal in great detail the three-year period in which Roberts claims she was Jeffrey Epstein and Maxwell's sex slave.

Roberts has said that in that role she was 'forced to have sex with ...numerous prominent American politicians, powerful business executives, foreign presidents, a well-known Prime Minister.'

Those men do not include Bill Clinton and Donald Trump though, Roberts revealed in an unsealed deposition. Roberts said in a 2016 deposition that Trump 'didn't partake in any sex with us ... and never flirted with me.'

She also stated that despite Epstein talking about how the two were friends, she did not recall ever seeing him at the Palm Beach mansion.
There will almost certainly be a good deal more information forthcoming soon. The documents can be downloaded here courtesy of Mike Cernovich. As for the first names to be divulged, they are as follows:
Virginia Giuffre, who says that Epstein and Maxwell trafficked her to powerful people for erotic massages and sex, claimed in a 2016 deposition that Maxwell directed her to have sex with former New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson, Britain’s Prince Andrew (whom she has accused before), wealthy financier Glenn Dubin, former senator George Mitchell, now-deceased MIT scientist Marvin Minsky, and modeling agent Jean-Luc Brunel, as well as “another prince,” a "foreign president," and the owner of a “large hotel chain” in France.
How would this young woman even know the names of Dubin and Minsky, one wonders....

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Blogger Unknown August 09, 2019 12:45 PM  

numerous prominent American politicians, powerful business executives, foreign presidents, a well-known Prime Minister.'

Are they choosing to not name these prominent distinguished gentlemen who like diddling kids?

Blogger Brett baker August 09, 2019 12:46 PM  

MSNBC will turn this into "Trump traumatized witnesses so much, they forgot he was there!" I wish I could add /s except they're going to say something that stupid.

Blogger JACIII August 09, 2019 12:49 PM  

The Epstein revelation has a surprising number of normies freaking out. The find themselves looking down the rabbit whole and they cannot discern the bottom. Worldview destroyed.

Anger. Bitter anger and spitting disgust.

Jaded and old as I am, some have startled me with their vehemence.

Blogger Nate August 09, 2019 12:56 PM  

more convinced than ever that this whole thing was a CIA op to gain power over politicians and others.

Blogger JACIII August 09, 2019 12:58 PM  

Nate wrote:more convinced than ever that this whole thing was a CIA op to gain power over politicians and others.


It was that, too.

The KGB did this with Yasser Arafat. Provided boys for him to molest and worse. Much worse. They owned him this way.

Blogger From the Piedmont August 09, 2019 12:59 PM  

This does not surprise me. Trump is not stupid, and I'm sure he can see a trap from a long way off.

Blogger Crew August 09, 2019 1:01 PM  

And, she claims she was forced to have sex with (((Alan))) Dershowitz.

Blogger Dave Dave August 09, 2019 1:16 PM  

I don't think I'll be surprised at these documents. The Podesta Emails were a real eye opener that I've come to expect the worst.

Blogger Weak August 09, 2019 1:17 PM  

Thoughts and prayers to the victims of the upcoming false flag attack that will distract us from this story.

Blogger Stilicho August 09, 2019 1:18 PM  

Aside from starting useless wars, providing a playground for Soviet and Israeli moles to access US secrets, destabilizing American society, introducing LSD and crack to the US, propping up worthless regimes that hurt the US more than they help, funding America's enemies, and digging wells in Afrika which the natives befoul, what has the CIA ever done for us?

Blogger Nation-Deprived August 09, 2019 1:19 PM  

Wow, the firmness of her words on Trump. Let’s see the media try to spin that.

Blogger NO GOOGLES August 09, 2019 1:22 PM  

ETA on the next MKULTRA kid patsied after a kill squad takes out a couple dozen people? No way they are going to just let this ride.

Blogger Wilkes Marprelate August 09, 2019 1:30 PM  

Don't you mean a Mossad op? ;)

Blogger Wilkes Marprelate August 09, 2019 1:33 PM  

Don't you mean (((Dershowitz)))?

Blogger sammibandit August 09, 2019 1:37 PM  

A model lesson in not taking the bait.

Blogger Geir Balderson August 09, 2019 1:40 PM  

@10

Wouldn't it be nice to pull back from all of these wasteful adventures and invest our time, treasure and youth in our own Country?

Yes, wouldn't it be nice?

Blogger Damelon Brinn August 09, 2019 2:04 PM  

Giuffre testified that Trump never flirted with her or had sex with her, she never saw him with Epstein or at any of Epstein's properties, she didn't hear him tell Epstein he was living the life, and the only reason she said they were friends is that Epstein told her they were. All that contradicts a journalist named Sharon Churcher, whose misquoting is one of the main thing leftists have been citing as evidence that Trump would be implicated. Can we start convicting journalists who print lies that could swing elections and start wars yet?

On the other hand, Prince Andrew is accused outright; there's testimony that Bill Clinton visited the island, which he's already denied in his "it depends on what the meaning of 'is' is" way; and Al & Tipper Gore are named as having visited, which is a new one on me.

Blogger IrishFarmer August 09, 2019 2:04 PM  

I will say Trump's perhaps tenuous connections to Epstein are worrying. I dont trust Trump as much as others here, but I do hope he didnt get tangled up in this mess. Part of me still likes him even if the luster has worn off by now. Regardless of the answer, perhaps it is time to start fasting and praying that the full truth of this is brought to light and justice is done. If this many powerful people are really involved we are going to need some help from above on this one. Plus I dont want to become collateral damage when the sulfur starts falling from the sky.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan August 09, 2019 2:14 PM  

The thread at zerohedge is seeing some serious troll work, frankly I have never seen so many TDS spewing trolls on a zerohedge thread. Just for that tells me there is some fire here in the Epstein crimes.

Trump is a top dog alpha so I would bet against his tweener banging, the mopes implicated are much lower SMV and IMO more likely to want to go back in life and play HS games.

Blogger swiftfoxmark2 August 09, 2019 2:16 PM  

Nate wrote:more convinced than ever that this whole thing was a CIA op to gain power over politicians and others.

Probably not just CIA either. Mossad was probably involved as well.

Blogger Harambe August 09, 2019 2:19 PM  

IrishFarmer wrote:I will say Trump's perhaps tenuous connections to Epstein are worrying. I dont trust Trump as much as others here, but I do hope he didnt get tangled up in this mess. Part of me still likes him even if the luster has worn off by now. Regardless of the answer, perhaps it is time to start fasting and praying that the full truth of this is brought to light and justice is done. If this many powerful people are really involved we are going to need some help from above on this one. Plus I dont want to become collateral damage when the sulfur starts falling from the sky.

Whatever you think of President Trump, remember he's a businessman, not a politician. He's more concerned with making money than gaining power over others. Does that make him a saint? No. But he played a different game throughout his life. *IF* he did something wrong, it'd probably be fraud or something else rather tame in comparison to what politicians get up to. That being said, if he did commit fraud or tax evasion or what have you, one of the looney lefties would've sniffed it out by now. But yeah.

Blogger Brick Hardslab August 09, 2019 2:22 PM  

I just can't see Clinton's name make it to the light of day. Sure, he's a horn dog rapist with a long history including underage girls but he was also the president. I think they'll cover for him if not for the dignity of the office for the Democrat party.

Blogger Karhu August 09, 2019 2:28 PM  

That's "now-deceased MIT scientist (((Marvin Minsky)))", who was a really brilliant guy, but who stated at a nanotechnology conference his greatest fear for humanity was that someone would invent "the perfect religion."

Blogger Balam August 09, 2019 2:33 PM  

IrishFarmer wrote:I will say Trump's perhaps tenuous connections to Epstein are worrying. I dont trust Trump as much as others here, but I do hope he didnt get tangled up in this mess. Part of me still likes him even if the luster has worn off by now.

"Worrying" is a thing either shills say or something shills wish to induce in you. "Worrysome behavior" "problematic opinions". If you ever catch yourself saying those things ask yourself who induced that feeling in you. Trump has been against Epstein for years now.

http://joehoft.com/prosecutor-in-epstein-case-said-donald-trump-was-the-only-one-who-helped-him/

"Edwards: Nothing at all. The only thing that I can say about President Trump is that he is the only person who, in 2009 when I served a lot of subpoenas on a lot of people, or at least gave notice to some pretty connected people, that I want to talk to them, is the only person who picked up the phone and said, let’s just talk. I’ll give you as much time as you want. I’ll tell you what you need to know, and was very helpful, in the information that he gave, and gave no indication whatsoever that he was involved in anything untoward whatsoever, but had good information. That checked out and that helped us and we didn’t have to take a deposition of him in 2009."

Blogger Damelon Brinn August 09, 2019 2:33 PM  

Just for that tells me there is some fire here in the Epstein crimes.

Loads. It's probably the reason for the false flag shootings as well as the attempt to spark something with Iran a couple weeks ago when they first talked about unsealing these documents. And this is just the tip of it. If everything we've heard about the island is true--and so far none of it has been contradicted--there's nothing they won't spend to bury it. If it gets tied into Pedowood, the media won't be able to contain it anymore.

Blogger furor kek tonicus ( Baltimore is a rathole, WhiteManBad ) August 09, 2019 2:34 PM  

i'll be impressed if Bawny Fwank's client list ever gets unsealed.

Blogger ace August 09, 2019 2:51 PM  

I'm worried guys, I'm so worried, I'm concerned. I'm concerned that you aren't concerned as much as I am about matters of concern. I'm doing a lot of hand rubbing, so much that I resemble cartoonish depictions of this behavior.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan August 09, 2019 2:53 PM  

Cerno's twitter threads are being hit as well with the usual Trump loves Epstein narrative, but not too hard, same with Julie Brown's twitter. So why zerohedge being spammed by TDS but not the twitter threads of the primary protagonists leaves me guessing, it's not like those throwaway SJW are going to ruin their reputations for defending a guy who buys books on slavery or anything.

AFAIK the Dersh is quiet today, I thought the documents he wanted released were in this and he would be out and about getting quoted.

Blogger Nostromo August 09, 2019 2:56 PM  

Something something abyss, something something looks back.

Blogger mgh August 09, 2019 2:58 PM  

MantraMan: "Trump is a top dog alpha so I would bet against his tweener banging, the mopes implicated are much lower SMV and IMO more likely to want to go back in life and play HS games." Yes. Trump is the rare Alpha in every situation his whole life. The immaturity of the young teens Epstein lured in would be a turn off. It would take an extremely mature older teen to tempt him.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan August 09, 2019 3:05 PM  

Speaking of Trump, his latest tweet is "Hollywood elite are the real racists", don't know if even the GE can make that clunker work but he seems later in the tweet to reference the movie "The Hunt" but without naming it. The man has great enemies, so perhaps he can.

Mgh, what you said, the immaturity thing would be such a turnoff to a real alpha of his stature.

Blogger Wraithburn August 09, 2019 3:18 PM  

Minsky, an atheist and AI researcher. We are about due for another AI winter, would be rather amusing if he tainted the field again.

Blogger bodenlose Schweinerei August 09, 2019 4:08 PM  

the mopes implicated are much lower SMV

Can someone have a negative SMV?

Blogger sammibandit August 09, 2019 4:22 PM  

Trump has a type that's slim and blonde, of legal age. He can have any woman he wants, and they're eager for that as he's said before, but he's also a man of habit and refined tastes. It's totally alpha to call out that you're desirable, moral, and choosy.

Blogger PG August 09, 2019 4:48 PM  

Government looks like a Hollywood set.
Anyone got a spoiler?

Blogger tuberman August 09, 2019 5:12 PM  

"Probably not just CIA either. Mossad was probably involved as well."

Maxwell's involvement suggests Mossad more than CIA.

Blogger tublecane August 09, 2019 5:16 PM  

@10- "what has the CIA ever done for us?"

That's classified.

Blogger tublecane August 09, 2019 5:20 PM  

Time for a little free association of random things I remember. Minsky is a character in Aurthur C. Clarke's 2001: A Space Odyssey. We all know about Clarke and little boys. Minsky also actually worked with Kubrick on the movie, I think. Kubrick famously portrayed secret elite Illuminatist sex rituals in Eyes Wide Shut. Perhaps based on personal knowledge.

Also, it's (((Minsky))).

Blogger Newscaper312 August 09, 2019 5:23 PM  

OT - Fairground ride installed INSIDE a cathedral in the UK, complete w requisite female "reverend". Male priest who criticizes will probably be reprimanded and apologizing shortly.
Ugh

Blogger map August 09, 2019 5:50 PM  

There will be nothing incriminating on Trump. The factions that partnered with him to run for the Presidency knew that he was clean, that he had none of the blackmail/bribery material that inundates the rest of the "elite." That's part of the reason why the Left went ballistic with Trump.

It's the nature of Trump's career path. He basically operates within two very distinct industries: real estate and entertainment. If he succeeds in real estate, then he leverages some of that success to make inroads in entertainment and media. If he succeeds in media and entertainment, then he leverages that success back into real estate.

By oscillating between two distinct fields, he never needs to engage in the kind of bribery/blackmail that others need to to get ahead. That is how he managed to stay clean for decades.

That is how he stays clean.

Blogger Unknown August 09, 2019 6:06 PM  

Jeffrey Epstein Accuser Names Bill Richardson, Glenn Dubin, Prince Andrew, George Mitchell in Alleged Sex Ring

Blogger tuberman August 09, 2019 6:26 PM  

40. map

"faction" suggests strongly DS faction, and just say that up front without trying to be Jew clever.

Please tell us more about his "faction"of the DS? Use all your wonderful powers of logic or psychic abilities to inform.

May I suggest that POTUS's only problem is he is a Civic Nationalist and not a real Nationalist, and the same is true for most of those behind him. They are not evil, just naive, with, in fact, good intentions. They do intend to clean up the Pedos, and are moving steadily toward that.

Yet I suspect Alt-Retards are part of a DS faction.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan August 09, 2019 6:27 PM  

As Cerno just tweeted the reporters who watch him and comment on his work have said nothing about this, so I'll assume this is possibly a narrative buster.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash August 09, 2019 6:33 PM  

Nate wrote:more convinced than ever that this whole thing was a CIA op to gain power over politicians and others.
Epstein is a Mossad asset, not CIA. CIA allowed it because the Israelis would forward some dirt from time to time that the CIA found useful.
Maxwell is the key to understanding exactly how it worked. Her father was a full-time agent of Mossad, and ran a hugely successful blackmail ring just as Epstein is described as doing.

Blogger Nikolai Collushnikov August 09, 2019 6:35 PM  

Trump is clean. If Trump wasn't clean, CNN and the rest of fake news would be covering for him. The media loves the dirty.

Blogger Mark Stoval August 09, 2019 6:37 PM  

@43

Vox and I disagree on many things. But I have to point out that it is against the rules here to "make it about Vox" and I think you did. Besides that, you are way off topic for this thread. These are offenses that people have been banned for committing.

As far as your point goes, having taught the subject, I think that statistics and probability theory will cause some of the most heated arguments of almost any subject. Give it up.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine August 09, 2019 6:52 PM  

"Please tell us more about his "faction"of the DS? Use all your wonderful powers of logic or psychic abilities to inform."

It's entertaining like a suspense flick.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine August 09, 2019 6:53 PM  

"Maxwell is the key to understanding exactly how it worked. Her father was a full-time agent of Mossad, and ran a hugely successful blackmail ring just as Epstein is described as doing."

Quoted For Emphasis.

Blogger Mark Stoval August 09, 2019 6:54 PM  

Sorry Mr.MantraMan I did not mean you at all. I guess #43 is gone or I am getting senile.

Blogger map August 09, 2019 8:16 PM  

42. Tuberman

Nah…I was just reading all of the conspiracy theories and coming up with an overarching one.
Basically, the deep state is in a civil war. Some plan they had hatched had badly backfired, the people involved do not want to go quietly, and, thus, the battle-space has ensued.

My suspicion is that the DS had an overarching plan to initiate a controlled detonation of the United States, extract as much wealth as possible, and then move their operation to China, since the deep state is international and China is the new rising empire.

1) Starting with the Bush/Clinton in the 90’s, the first step was social instability and wealth extraction through offshore-outsourcing and mass immigration.

2) Adding to the offshore-outsourcing and mass immigration, Bush Jr. started and escalated several wars in the Middle East and several rounds of economic destruction caused by the Federal Reserve.

3) Adding to offshore-outsourcing, mass immigration and war, the Obama years started internal racial strife and demonization of the majority population.

The final act was Hillary Clinton. Once enough wealth had been extracted and the DS was to move to China, her job was to initiate a limited nuclear exchange between Russia and the United States. This was not intended to be apocalyptic, but to simply destroy either country’s ability to project power, so that DS could rule over everything from a Chinese mountaintop.

The problem is that the military wing of the DS got wind that they would be betrayed by their Chinese partners. Once full wealth extraction and migration had been accomplished, the Chinese partners would simply eliminate their American DS counterparts and seize all of these assets and rule themselves. The military, which operates at the periphery of the Empire, and, thus, is more
privy to how competing empires operate, was, nevertheless, unable to convince the domestic wing of DS that this was actually the case. Domestic DS had drank its own kool-aid, believed in its own BS, and is too drunk on power and its enjoyment to see the problem clearly.

(continued)

Blogger map August 09, 2019 8:16 PM  

The domestic DS did not anticipate the rise of nationalism worldwide and could not see that their Chinese partners could or would easily betray them. They, living in a bubble, subjected themselves to the same havoc that global homoism was wreaking on the nation.

Thus, the military wing of DS turned against the domestic wing…and ran its own President, Donald Trump. He was an ideal candidate given his background and given that he is very clean. His views are also consistent. The evidence for this relationship is the fact that Admiral Mike Rodgers
was the one who warned Trump about the NSA private contractors spying on Trump Tower. This leads me to believe that DIA, NSA and DoD are the factions on the side of Trump and they are using their own formidable intelligence operations to undermine their former domestic partners.

Trump is trying to reverse the damage caused by the initial deep state plans, trying to “reverse the clock” on progress. This has been effective, since the focus is in getting the hidden upper management and not people like McCabe or Hillary. These mass shootings we are seeing is largely a desperate response to them losing.

Anyway, I am not married to this theory, but it does explain some of the observations I’ve noticed. For example, it’s clear that Jeff Sessions was working on the Epstein stuff and that Trump’s complaints about Sessions was cover. It’s fairly clear that Barr is an expert at protecting the Executive Branch from Congress, since that’s what he was doing under Bush I on behalf of the CIA. That skill set is now being applied to help Trump. Mueller may very well be a Judas Goat. His job was to rope powerful and well-connected Democrat lawyers in an illegal coup so that they can be rounded up later. The 100,000 or so sealed indictments are to be opened simultaneously, to trigger recusals when the conflicts-of-interest emerge. This is to evade on a large scale the McCabe/Amy Berman Jackson problem that we have now.

This is a very elaborate and intricate chess game being played within the shadow government. Were any of this to come out to the general public, it would probably lead to a collapse of the US government. No one really wants that. Thus, we see this ebb and flow on the battlefield.

Blogger Matrick August 09, 2019 8:23 PM  

At first I was annoyed at hearing leftists claiming that Trump is involved with all of this, but then I realised that it's a good thing that they think that. It's good because the left has a much greater ability than we do to exert pressure and create media attention. As long as they think that Trump is implicated (and hold on to that idea as a means to bring him down) they will not allow the story to disappear. If anything they should be encouraged to believe that Trump is involved.

Blogger Rough Carrigan August 09, 2019 8:23 PM  

So that's what the "Minsky Moment" is.

Blogger Dirk Manly August 09, 2019 8:37 PM  

@5

"The KGB did this with Yasser Arafat. Provided boys for him to molest and worse. Much worse. They owned him this way."


The KGB had no need (or even benefit) from doing such a thing. EVERYBODY who has spend any time in Mideast or Arab world knows that the Moslems indulge in man-boy sex to an extent that makes Friedrich Alfred Krupp(*) look like a celibate choir boy.

(*) Fritz was in the habit of going down to the Italian island of Capri every winter, renting a floor full of rooms, and getting the concierge desk to hire a "staff" of teenage boys to wait on him. He did this year after year until a "scandal" broke out in 1902, Fritz was evicted from the island, and officially named Persona Non-Grata. He went back to Germany, and within weeks, committed suicide as the stories in the newspapers didn't blow over, but instead, continued to appear.

Unlike the Germans, the Italians had no tolerance for homosexuality, which, in that era, was known throughout Europe as "the German disease."

Unfortunately, the Wikipedia page is substantially more complete than the one mirrored when Infogalactic was forked.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friedrich_Alfred_Krupp

Blogger Vlad Z. August 09, 2019 9:01 PM  

Al & Tipper Gore are named as having visited.

We do know that Al is a big fan of erotic massage, because he got busted for trying to force himself on a masseuse in Portland, OR. She filed a sex assauilt complaint against him. I forget if that was before or after Tipper divorced him.

And then several others came forward to say he had assaulted them too.

https://www.businessinsider.com/two-more-women-accuse-al-gore-of-assault-2010-7

While I don't trust every accuser the way this story has come forward is telling. The victim / witness sued Maxwell and won, and agreed to keep things sealed as part of the settlement. She kept her part of the bargain, it's only because of Cernovich and then the Miami Herald reporter that this has finally all been opened up to the light of day.

So, the accuser isn't the one pushing this story, in fact she lives in Australia, is married and has three kids.

Blogger tuberman August 09, 2019 9:23 PM  

50. map

Your basic assumptions are twisted to me. Most profoundly, your definition of Deep State.

Was there Nationalism before Trump? Yes, in places like Russia and China, so Globalism was already betrayed.Most know that. Yet, very little momentum toward Nationalism in other places, and Trump's people have set Nationalism forward, at a much faster rate.

The last 20 months POTUS's people have been telling people to think for themselves. Not the trait of those seeking just power.

Further:
Trump is a catalyst for Nationalism WW, and it blossomed in Europe and other places much faster after his election.
Trump plans to get rid of sex trafficking, child sacrifice, and child rapes.
Trump plans to bring back manufacturing, and get rid of the parasite economy
He has already brought back the energy sector.
He will get rid of the Fed, and destroy Central Bankers around the world.
He and his teams will expose the activities of multiple Secret Societies.
He has had any number of chances to start wars and has not.

I just consider your assumption that he and his teams are just another DS faction to be beyond absurd. It has me suspicious of your motives.

Just for Keks, have you heard about the 16 year plan set out for BHO and HRC? That to me sums it up the real deep state.



Blogger Crew August 09, 2019 9:52 PM  

@54: Unfortunately, the Wikipedia page is substantially more complete than the one mirrored when Infogalactic was forked.

What you talking about?

Blogger Dirk Manly August 09, 2019 10:39 PM  

@27

"I'm worried guys, I'm so worried, I'm concerned. I'm concerned that you aren't concerned as much as I am about matters of concern. I'm doing a lot of hand rubbing, so much that I resemble cartoonish depictions of this behavior."

A lot of hand rubbing?

Then try focussing on EARNING your own money, rather than stealing someone else's.

Blogger Fargoth August 09, 2019 10:45 PM  

Literally just overheard a group of four ghouls in a coffee shop talking about how "Trump is probably eating KFC on his 757 with a fork and knife because he wants to be like us".

Also couldn't shut up about gas prices and how Trump's tariffs are affecting the price of goods coming from Haiti.

The best part was when they mentioned how Duluth, Minnesota has "an endless supply of freshwater, if you can handle the -70 degree windchill".

Blogger Fargoth August 09, 2019 10:50 PM  

Don't worry, there is a camera on my telephone

Blogger Stilicho August 09, 2019 11:04 PM  

This is just one of Epstein's victims. One. From years ago. Not even part of the new charges.

Blogger Dirk Manly August 09, 2019 11:05 PM  

"What you talking about?"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friedrich_Alfred_Krupp

https://infogalactic.com/info/Friedrich_Alfred_Krupp

Hmmm... strange. The first time I went to the infogalactic page, the "Scandal and Death" section wasn't even present, and the other sections were much shorter, too.

Blogger Crew August 09, 2019 11:12 PM  

@62: Do you see a View History tab?

Blogger Dirk Manly August 09, 2019 11:26 PM  

OH, i see. You updated it after my comment.

Blogger Daniel August 09, 2019 11:50 PM  

“Jean-Luc is considered a danger,” says Jérôme Bonnouvrier. “Owning Karins was a dream for a playboy. His problem is that he knows exactly what girls in trouble are looking for. He’s always been on the edge of the system. John Casablancas gets with girls the healthy way. Girls would be with him if he was the butcher. They’re with Jean-Luc because he’s the boss. Jean-Luc likes drugs and silent rape. It excites him.”

“I really despise Jean-Luc as a human being for the way he’s cheapened the business,” says John Casablancas. “There is no justice. This is a guy who should be behind bars. There was a little group, Jean-Luc, Patrick Gilles, and Varsano...They were very well-known in Paris for roaming the clubs. They would invite girls and put drugs in their drinks. Everybody knew they were creeps.”

Brunel's defense?

“You get laid tonight with a model, is that a crime? I don’t understand why people go into your personal life, what you do yourself, and to yourself, and they don’t look at things that are really important.”

Blogger Mr. B.A.D. August 10, 2019 1:04 AM  

this confirms my thoughts on why Trump ran in the first place. The reason why a life long democrat decides to run against his former friends and gets completely opposed by both sides is because he encountered something in the elite circles that he could not abide and said "im gonna burn all you motherfuckers down".

Blogger Jack Amok August 10, 2019 3:05 AM  

As far as "how are the Left going to spin this as anti-trump"?

Well...

"Why would Trump be hiring female children to work at his expensive country club? "Giuffre has alleged that Maxwell recruited her to work as a masseuse for Epstein when she was 15 and had been working as a locker-room attendant at Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago club in Florida."

No need to spin when your targets are already in full gyro mode. The Left is in the middle of Cognitive Resonance. Every input - no matter what - amplifies their mindset. They are batshit crazy, without the redeeming qualities of the bat shit.

Blogger God Emperor Memes August 10, 2019 3:35 AM  

Remember when Dick Armey called him "Barney Fag"? I think Ann Coulter said it too.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine August 10, 2019 4:56 AM  

"They are batshit crazy, without the redeeming qualities of the bat shit."

How would they not make good fertilizer?

Blogger Lovekraft August 10, 2019 7:55 AM  

The bottom line is everyone wants a chance to slap some Christ into Epstein

Blogger Stilicho August 10, 2019 8:01 AM  

"How would they not make good fertilizer?"

I believe David the Good wrote the how-to manual.

From another perspective, we rely on Logos and the people of the lie depend on guanos. I expect they are literally full of it. High nitrogen content I hear.

Blogger Gr8Again August 10, 2019 9:08 AM  

According to the Drudge headline right now, Epstein just committed suicide, or rather, "committed suicide".

Blogger Arthur Isaac August 10, 2019 9:14 AM  

Arkancide.

Blogger map August 11, 2019 1:05 AM  

56. Tuberman

Please understand that I am not writing a blackpill. I fully endorse and agree with almost everything Trump is doing and he is hugely identified with all, if not most, of the nationalist sentiments around the world, especially their popularizing. No, I am not arguing that Trump is a deep state LARP or that an association with deep state elements proves that he is bogus.

It's just a thought experiment that is not meant to be de-moralizing. It would be nice to see him have powerful allies that have had a change of mind and heart.

My point is that there is a Russian and Chinese deep state allied with the American one, in a loose power structure known as a rhizome. They were all, supposedly, committed to advancing the goals of Cabal toward the good of their power, but elements of the American deep state discovered the betrayal. Everything about Trump and this realization is reversing these globalist goals, return to nationalism and re-industrialize, re-invigorate and re-arm the United States.

Besides, I like telling leftists that Trump is deep state and that he plans to use this machinery against them.

Blogger map August 11, 2019 1:06 AM  

56. Tuberman,

"Just for Keks, have you heard about the 16 year plan set out for BHO and HRC? That to me sums it up the real deep state."

Yes, I read the 16 year plan from Qanon.

Chilling stuff.

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