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Saturday, September 28, 2019

Don't let them leave

After the wall across the southern border is built, a second one needs to be built on the California border:
Just over half of California’s registered voters have considered leaving the state, with soaring housing costs cited as the most common reason for wanting to move, according to a new poll. Young voters were especially likely to cite unaffordable housing as a reason for leaving, according to the latest latest UC Berkeley Institute of Governmental Studies poll conducted for the Los Angeles Times. But a different group, conservatives, also frequently suggested they wanted to leave — and for a very different reason: They feel alienated from the state’s political culture.
They defecated all over their collective bed. Better they be sentenced to enjoy the hellhole they created rather than be permitted to travel elsewhere and recreate it.

This is why no city, state, or country should ever permit any immigrant, or his children, or his children's children, to vote. People are very bad at understanding causality and they tend to prefer the familiar, so despite the apparent senselessness of this behavior, it is not difficult to understand why emigrants reliably attempt to recreate the very conditions they sought to escape.

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77 Comments:

Blogger Brett baker September 28, 2019 6:32 AM  

I suppose the attitude is, "It'll work this time, we don't have the minorities f***ing things up!".

Blogger JovianStorm September 28, 2019 6:45 AM  

Selling California back to Mexico for 1 trillion bucks would be the wisest move. We use that to buy Iceland and make that the 50th state

Blogger Halvar Andersen September 28, 2019 7:01 AM  

Who hasn't heard of the neighborhood that put a stop to establishing a pig farm behind their subdivision? And not even pigs will defecate where they eat or sleep. Californians on the other hand...

Anonymous Anonymous September 28, 2019 7:02 AM  

They're currently ruining Idaho, and a not insubstantial number of locals are fine with it "because they bring a lot of money to the area!"

Blogger Whitey Whiteman III September 28, 2019 7:17 AM  

I like what you did there with pointing out that they should also be considered illegal aliens.

Blogger Dan in Georgia September 28, 2019 7:36 AM  

Is there still time to buy land on the eastern side of the San Andreas fault? There’s a guy named Lex who has a proposal...

Blogger Dark Herald September 28, 2019 7:36 AM  

California in one word: Leprosy.

Blogger Dark Herald September 28, 2019 7:42 AM  

I remember Iowahawk saying there was a difference in the kind of Californian that moves to Austin and the kind that moves from California to Oregon.

Austin now allows the homeless to pitch a tent anywhere they like just like in Los Angeles. In front of your business? In front of your home? It doesn't matter, creepy, dangerous and diseased people have more rights than you do in Austin, Texas.

Californians have become the Grasshopper People.

Blogger urthshu September 28, 2019 7:47 AM  

It's all Steinbeck's fault. Those Okies couldn't make California into another dustbowl but they've done the next best thing.

Blogger Whitey Whiteman III September 28, 2019 7:53 AM  

"When the Okies left Oklahoma and moved to California, they raised the average intelligence level in both states."

--- Leroy Rogers (negro who invented country music)

Blogger Dark Herald September 28, 2019 7:56 AM  

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Blogger Stilicho September 28, 2019 8:04 AM  

Lurking in the psyche of these migrant californians is a desire to infect and destroy the new states they target.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan September 28, 2019 8:23 AM  

The comments were informative, the "conservatism" is infectious and very dangerous. The scabby leftists on that comment thread could slander and vilify the cons with impunity but don't touch the con's money.

Blogger Stilicho September 28, 2019 8:27 AM  

At some point, the Rockies will have to become a defensive barrier between America and Mexifornia and its satellite states. Manned by guards with standing orders to shoot to kill anyone approaching the border.

Blogger matism September 28, 2019 8:28 AM  

And they will Californicate whatever state they invade.

Blogger Johnny September 28, 2019 8:52 AM  

And they absolutely don't see that maybe their worldview-political ideas are the problem. Got a neighbor like that from you know where.

Blogger NA September 28, 2019 9:19 AM  

The white conservatives coming out of that state cannot be trusted to vote. As stated above in other posts, the Commifornicate every state they enter. In a word, cancer.

Blogger FUBARwest September 28, 2019 9:20 AM  

I know a young Venezuelan woman who lived in that country, has family in that country currently, and is very aware of what's going on. He family comes from means. Somehow... somehow she still wants to vote for the same policies that destroyed her country.

Is it simply better not to attempt to help people like that?

Blogger Durandel September 28, 2019 9:27 AM  

Its a crime that generational and historical invest does not factor into voting. Just because California and Florida are in the same Empire, does not means that a Californian who moves to Florida should be immediately allowed to vote or run for office in Florida at the town/city, county and state levels. There should be a 4th generation rule for interstate immigration.

What about the federal level and foreign immigrants?

There is zero reason to allow foreign immigration. But yes, a 4th gen requirement should be there too.

Blogger Dirk Manly September 28, 2019 9:28 AM  

@2

"Selling California back to Mexico for 1 trillion bucks would be the wisest move."

ABSOLUTELY NOT!

That would just encourage the Mexican government to redouble their efforts to flood our country.

Deporting all of their citizens, stripped of ALL assets, would be a far better thing to do.

Blogger Lurker September 28, 2019 9:39 AM  

"People are very bad at understanding causality and they tend to prefer the familiar..."

Wow. Understatement of the century. It's so much easier to just cut to the chase and call them idiots.

Blogger ZhukovG September 28, 2019 9:53 AM  

It occurs to me that California could be improved, and its threat to America mitigated, by deporting White Californians to Mexico and just keeping the Mexicans.

Of course what this really means is that California should either be entirely expelled from the Union or forcibly depopulated, a do over if you will.

Blogger Dirk Manly September 28, 2019 9:54 AM  

@18

"Is it simply better not to attempt to help people like that?"

Absolutely. Assimilation means more than adopting our clothing and eating the local foods, and speaking English. Much MORE.
It means adopting the entire culture, which means adopting our politics.

Blogger cecilhenry September 28, 2019 9:57 AM  

Leftists everywhere try to leave the areas they have destroyed once the parasitism they employ no longer works.



Thia is the pattern endlessly. Don't let them escape what they love.


Blogger Homesteader September 28, 2019 10:03 AM  

The population of California, outside the urban areas, is very traditional stock. It's farms, guns, lots of rodeos and barrel racing. They despise the changes to their state as much as anyone else, and every time they've voted their opinion, a leftist judge has overruled them.

And, as far as them moving to other states, you do realize many of them aren't native Californians? Oakies, Carpetbaggers, come from all over, make their coin, then leave.
I agree with most of you on that issue- they should be blocked at the border. They ARE a vector. Just, remember- many of them came from YOUR state, originally.

As for La Migra- Azatlan covers the WHOLE southwest- better build that wall at Lake Charles, not Calexico. Are you willing to cede all that territory? What WOULD Sam Houston think?

That being said- you do realize who the demographic is who does the moving- yes, our friends, the boomers. They've played hold and sold these last 30 years, and now want to tell YOU how to run things- Why, it was PERFECT in Los Altos!- So I suspect there's some Boomer aspect to this as well.

That being said- a defensive attitude never works. This state is too beautiful to be abandoned. Or, as another commenter once said, "Not. one. square.inch."

I have my homestead, and a community of like-minded Americans who are quite similar to many of you. They are also here, even still. God always leaves a remnant.

(Look up the Jefferson State movement, if you're curious.)






Blogger Robert Pinkerton September 28, 2019 10:07 AM  

Sanctus Andreas, ora pro nobis.

Blogger ZhukovG September 28, 2019 10:09 AM  

@Dirk Manly: Not just adopting the culture. I would argue that Assimilation has not occurred until the alien minority has been completely genetically submerged by the native nation.

This is very difficult as it requires the alien minority to be of limited numbers and treated as lower caste. The privileges of citizenship would have to be withheld from them until their old blood ceases to be genetically significant.

Blogger Nikolai Collushnikov September 28, 2019 10:11 AM  

It's like teaching a pig to tap dance. You will only get frustrated. The pig will only get angry.

Blogger Stilicho September 28, 2019 10:20 AM  

@homesteader, very well, if you want to keep it, you have to implement the Kratman option or stfu. Now, I think the Kratman option would work, but only if rigorously enforced (Kratman agrees). However, we are not at a point where there is the political will for it. The Schlicter option is looking more likely at this point, but things can change rapidly.

Blogger Homesteader September 28, 2019 10:24 AM  

Why do you think they just passed a de facto ammuntion ban?

And, Stilicho- careful. As we are, you so shall be. As you are, we so once were.

The vector is urban leftists-
every.damn.time.

Your state is NOT immune.

But, yes, you're right- it will come to that.

Blogger VFM #7634 September 28, 2019 10:25 AM  

Here's something to hang on the Boomers:

The Berkeley IGS poll found that 82% of the 18- to 29-year-olds considering leaving the state cited housing costs as a reason, as did nearly 80% of 30- to 39-year-olds.

“That’s huge,” DiCamillo said. “Those 65 and older probably bought a house many years ago and it’s not that big of a deal. It’s less of a factor for the seniors.”


They're currently ruining Idaho, and a not insubstantial number of locals are fine with it "because they bring a lot of money to the area!"

The locals who are fine with it are most likely Boomers. I'm pretty sure the younger generations don't appreciate the rampant inflation it brings.

Blogger cecilhenry September 28, 2019 10:58 AM  

Farming in Rhodesia vs Farming in Zimbabwe.


No 'magic dirt' here either.




https://europeansworldwide.files.wordpress.com/2018/08/sa-farming-in-rhodesia-zimbabwe.jpg

Blogger Cloudbuster September 28, 2019 10:59 AM  

Selling California back to Mexico for 1 trillion bucks would be the wisest move. We use that to buy Iceland and make that the 50th state

Nah. Iceland is the most pozzed bunch of progressive degenerates imaginable. The women all sleep around and on the rare occasions where they have kids, they never bother to marry and create a decent family for the poor kid. It would be a reliable vote for everything terrible.

Blogger Dirk Manly September 28, 2019 11:11 AM  

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Blogger Dirk Manly September 28, 2019 11:12 AM  

The only thing the Icelanders did right was, in the bank-upheavals of 2008, they actually took all of their bankers and threw them in prison. Other than that, the Icelanders are worthless, making Swedes look like paramounts of both wisdom and virtue.

Blogger urthshu September 28, 2019 11:13 AM  

So the same except Caucasian

Blogger DonReynolds September 28, 2019 11:48 AM  

And the final wave to leave California will be those who do not want to live in "Mexico" or "Mexican society".

It might be a fun place to visit, but I would not want to live there .... especially while excluded from participating in the society I live in by a cabal of Mexicans who will only hire each other, will only buy from each other, will only speak to each other, and ultimately, will only sell to each other.

You can reliably expect, as more Mexicans assume jobs and positions, public and private, they will deny goods and services (including medical and first responder) normally due to any and all people, but which will be reserved for Mexican only. Call it a silent boycott of all things American, and doing anything on behalf of Americans, even for pay.
Expect to be cheated, Californians.
You already know how this works.

Blogger Lurker September 28, 2019 12:04 PM  

"Nah. Iceland is the most pozzed bunch of progressive degenerates imaginable. The women all sleep around and on the rare occasions where they have kids, they never bother to marry and create a decent family for the poor kid. It would be a reliable vote for everything terrible."

Gee sounds Scandihoovian. Beautiful country though, Sad.

Blogger Chiva September 28, 2019 12:11 PM  

When the money dries up the locusts will find greener pastures to land. Do you really think you are immune?

I will stay here and most likely die here.

Blogger jarheadljh September 28, 2019 12:14 PM  

As things currently are in the Far West, the lower half(Douglas County on down, so about five miles South of me) and Eastern portion of Oregon(flat desert) would vote to secede and join the State of Jefferson just to escape the Portland/metro-area and it's population of 2.5 million that now decides everything. The State of Jefferson movement exists so that rural(white) California can escape SF, LA, and Sacramento. Truth is that if the US could make every metro-area of over 1 million people into a politically independent city-state the whole secession movement would die overnight due to complete lack of need.

I was born in Lane County, Oregon, raised jumping between Alameda County, CA and Stanislaus County CA with occasional vacations back to Oregon to visit the Grandparents. I have also lived in Lynchburg, VA and Raleigh, NC. Raleigh was preferable by far, over anywhere in VA. I'm now back in Lane County, and yes I am looking to homestead somewhere in Idaho to escape fucking Portland because I want low taxes, I don't just like guns I MAKE guns, and because Oregon has land use laws that are outright designed to discourage&punish any use outside of the lumber industry, or farming in the valleys(I'm not a farmer, gardener sure, farmer, NO). Meanwhile with five minutes looking I found 27 acres in Idaho with a trout stream and timber plus the closest town only had ~950 people, and all of it for half the cost of a new house in my little Oregon lumberjack town. No house on the land? I was in construction so not really a problem. No utilities or government services? Do a search for "Earthship". The satellite-based alternatives to 5G on the horizon will take care of any internet issues that my future business endeavors might require. Now I just need $300K to pay for it all.

Blogger Lurker September 28, 2019 12:15 PM  

"That being said- a defensive attitude never works."

It does, when there is an actual defense.

"The vector is urban leftists-
every.damn.time."


Yes they are the pawns. But behind all this "migration" is Tower of Babel 2.0 being put in place via central banking.

"They're currently ruining Idaho, and a not insubstantial number of locals are fine with it "because they bring a lot of money to the area!"

Bah, they are just next up to be taken over by the pod people with Cuckservatards supposedly playing "defense" despite all the evident contradictions that Vox and others point out all the time. They've already taken over in Cali and Texas, the dumbshits in Idaho don't stand a chance.

Blogger The Depolrable Podunk Ken Ramsey September 28, 2019 12:34 PM  

"Hello, I'm your new neighbor. I just escaped California. I had to get out, I'm one of the good ones. A True Conservative (TM)!!!"

Yeah. About that.

Blogger Azimus September 28, 2019 12:36 PM  

They're already crapping the national bed too - they use the size of their economy to dictate terms to the rest of the country. Wall em into their own darkened land and vote them out of the union...

Blogger RJ September 28, 2019 12:38 PM  

"And, Stilicho- careful. As we are, you so shall be. As you are, we so once were."

Mormons gonna Mormon.

Blogger Meanoldbasterd September 28, 2019 12:41 PM  

You and what army? You realize that the aztlanians have a half dozen kids per family to whitey having 1.5, right?

Blogger liberranter September 28, 2019 12:41 PM  

Here in Southern Arizona cars with California license plates are practically being run off the road. "Go back to the faggoty shit hole you came from!" is the general attitude hereabouts.

Blogger Gen. Kong September 28, 2019 12:47 PM  

The problem noted by jarheadjh above (large cities controlling the state) is not unique to the western states. Illinois is completely controlled by the Pitzker-Madigan machine of Chiraq. The southern part of the state is a lot more like Missouri in general outlook. Missouri itself has a problem with the urban enclaves of St. Louis and Kansas City (who often fight each other over spending). This used to be mitigated at least to an extent when the state senate and house mirrored the structure of the federal government (counties had 1 senator each while representatives were for population-based districts).

The Satanic elites, their SJW and POC foot soldiers and their cuckservative fifth-columns are not going to stop at California. Another group leaving California thanks to the Mexican and Central American invasion are blacks, whose behavior is no different than blacks everywhere - yet we're always treated to the DR3 arguments and blaxit mythologies. Even the Mexicans have better sense than to tolerate them. The sooner the Rotten Banana Empire collapses the better chance of survival of a remnant of the posterity population. A case could be made for sealing off California so the one-party Marxist government there would collapse under its own contradictions. There's way too much federal money bailing them out now.

Blogger Blaidd September 28, 2019 12:48 PM  

They cite housing costs, so they sell their half million dollar 600 sq ft condo, move across the country and buy a 2000 sq ft house on a third of an acre for the asking price of 400k because, holy shit, why wouldn't they. And now the average middle class worker in that area can't afford a house anymore.

Blogger Homesteader September 28, 2019 1:02 PM  

I suppose the future will hearken to the past, and, after the collapse, we'll all be studying the construction of walled city-states.

Hinter den mauern, schon weider!

Blogger Lurker September 28, 2019 1:05 PM  

"I'm now back in Lane County, and yes I am looking to homestead somewhere in Idaho to escape fucking Portland because I want low taxes..."

You might want to look into that taxation reason some more. CUCK-serva-TARDS love them taxes even though the goobermints there are useless it's like paying a prostitute to go away but you are still paying for it, Oregon and Washington despite being blue states actually have lower taxes than CUCK-serva-TARD states like Idaho. Always keep that in mind when dealing with idiots that are proud to be CUCK-serva-TARDS.

http://www.tax-rates.org/oregon/sales-tax

Blogger MJ September 28, 2019 1:10 PM  

Why would Mexico buy it? It will be theirs in 30 years for free.

Blogger P Glenrothes September 28, 2019 1:36 PM  

Closing the barn door after the genie has escaped the lamp?

Blogger Lurker September 28, 2019 1:58 PM  

"Cuckservative" could be made into a multi-volume set, so morally and intellectually bankrupt it is.

Blogger Daniel September 28, 2019 2:01 PM  

Country being fucked up by the fucking city happens here in argentina too, specially buenos aires

Blogger Oswald September 28, 2019 2:12 PM  

Much evil resides on the West Coast. And it desires to spread.

Blogger sammibandit September 28, 2019 2:29 PM  

This is exactly why Albertans have a reputation for xenophobia. We get cast offs from other provinces, or our own cast offs moving to Vancouver. They complain that we're not welcoming. Duh. The economic engine of the country isn't welcoming.

I especially hate it when people who moved away come back from Vancouver, where they only hang with ex-pats mind you, and tell us how we suck. They make Ontarians look acceptable.

Blogger P Glenrothes September 28, 2019 2:38 PM  

Nixon took the dollar off the gold standard in 1971. In 1972,the phrase "Follow the money" is uttered by Deep Throat. I'm all for building the wall and draining the swamp, but don't take your eyes off the money trail. The money trail ends at the Federal Reserve and the banking cabal. If ever there's a swamp that needs a wall and a drain, the Federal Reserve is it. They are the root cause of high home and tuition costs.

Blogger weka September 28, 2019 2:56 PM  

Even this kiwi knows Toronto is scum and Ontario makes California look sane.

Anonymous Anonymous September 28, 2019 2:56 PM  

@8 Cataline Sergius: "Austin now allows the homeless to pitch a tent anywhere they like just like in Los Angeles. In front of your business? In front of your home? It doesn't matter, creepy, dangerous and diseased people have more rights than you do in Austin, Texas."

Austin has a very special (((mayor))). That said, all of Texas is turning blue. Demography is destiny. Add in that the the TruCons here continually re-elect cucks like Cornyn and wheelchair gov continually exhorts more Californians to squat here and my ardent desire to leave Texas is easily explained.

Blogger RedJack September 28, 2019 3:13 PM  

The lure of other people's money is a very tempting one. Personally, I have family in California. They agree the rest of the country should let it die thirsty and in the dark

Blogger Lurker September 28, 2019 3:29 PM  

"The lure of other people's money is a very tempting one. Personally, I have family in California. They agree the rest of the country should let it die thirsty and in the dark."

Cali is a perfect example of CUCK-serva-TARD-ism and where it leads. Remember back in the day it was considered a red state overall like Texas.

Blogger sammibandit September 28, 2019 3:46 PM  

Exactly! Toronto thinks they're the center of the universe. We all laugh at it. We don't even cheer their hockey team. We would cheer Vancouver over them.

Blogger Ahărôwn September 28, 2019 4:03 PM  

Ontario, like British Columbia, are both like many American states where a few large cities control and outvote the countryside.

Here in Ontario, the town I shop/attend church in, which is approximately an hour's drive from Toronto, is over 90% white. Most of small town and rural southern Ontario is this way, made up predominantly of people whose British ancestors were the original settlers.

Now the provincial capital wants more housing and wind farms everywhere, overriding all local representatives and people's wishes. The GTA really needs to be its own province.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash September 28, 2019 4:22 PM  

P Glenrothes wrote:If ever there's a swamp that needs a wall and a drain, the Federal Reserve is it.
Look, moron, The Fed is a symptom, not the disease.

Blogger sammibandit September 28, 2019 4:23 PM  

I heard Southern Ontario, especially Kitchener, is very old stock. It reminds me of 80s television shows out of the area. Very white.

Blogger Magnifico September 28, 2019 4:35 PM  

If we elect a president via the elector collage, why not governors from each state?

Blogger P Glenrothes September 28, 2019 5:23 PM  

@64 Define the disease, define the treatment.

Blogger Ty Richards September 28, 2019 5:50 PM  

All the Californians move to Texas and are destroying my state just like they did their own. We are going to need more than walls to fight this eventually.

Blogger johndoe03526 September 28, 2019 5:51 PM  

I saw this dynamic play out decades ago in New Hampshire. People fled the high taxes of Massachusetts, and continued voting left. Now NH is a blue state.

Blogger VFM #7634 September 28, 2019 8:02 PM  

All the Californians move to Texas and are destroying my state just like they did their own. We are going to need more than walls to fight this eventually.

I've said before that it's highly likely that if America survives, it will still lose most of the Western states, with the possible exceptions of Montana, Wyoming, northern Idaho, and eastern Washington. Texas will be a battleground, at least if red Texans stop cucking.

Blogger P Glenrothes September 28, 2019 11:13 PM  

@70 It's difficult to envision a single red/blue boundary. I don't think the reds will accept having no west coast port cities.

Blogger P Glenrothes September 29, 2019 1:30 AM  

@64 The Federal Reserve is a weapon that needs taken out.

Blogger Greg James Beam September 29, 2019 2:37 AM  

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Blogger Greg James Beam September 29, 2019 2:40 AM  

UnknownSeptember 29, 2019 2:37 AM
I live in the southern tip of the Sierra Nevada mountains in CA and it seems that the north and east parts of the state are mostly demographically friendly and somewhat Nationalist, if a bit closeted. I'm treating my community like the "front line" and I'll fight by having as many children as possible and teaching them to know and love truth. Maybe its futile, but it seems to be the only option. Sorry for the wall of text,..excited to be a part of the community.

Blogger American Spartan September 29, 2019 2:47 AM  

Meanoldbasterd wrote:You and what army? You realize that the aztlanians have a half dozen kids per family to whitey having 1.5, right?

How many of them are lard asses who can not hit a person shaped target across the street?

Numbers account for little outside of the ballot box.

Let them breed like rabbits, when they are going to face what is coming next, their numbers will be anchors for them.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan September 29, 2019 7:26 AM  

Good lord the conservatism rot runs thru 3/4 of the posters on this thread, "oh God it's hopeless our magic fairy dust of essays has not convinced anyone to our side, oh put up a wall."

People stop huffing the conservatism, people don't need magic fairy dust essays they need a friggin cluebat of rhetoric upside the head.

Blogger L.Fairchild October 05, 2019 10:00 PM  

Pretty sure the Vancouver types are coming here too to the central BC area. The house prices are going up, fast. Still can get a few acres for less than 400k though, and if I was to move to a smaller town it'd be even easier. I feel like Canada isn't so bad as long as you're at least 10 hours north of the border.

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