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Wednesday, September 25, 2019

Mailvox: are they that stupid?

Mystic on Main puts his judgment on the line:
That aside here's what I'm thinking. The Dems must have seen the transcript of the call and they must not only know who the whistleblower is but also have talked to them. There's no way Pelosi would have endorsed impeachment hearings without seeing there is something to grab on to. Which makes me think there is something they can run with.
Surely the Democrats couldn't be that stupid, right? They couldn't POSSIBLY be THAT stupid, right? They're not THAT desperate about 2020 ALREADY, are they?

I guess we're going to find out soon.

UPDATE: Yep, it looks like they really are that desperate and stupid.
The president's phone call — made from the White House residence to Zelenskiy — began with Trump congratulating Zelenskiy on his election victory. Later, Trump veers into the Biden issue.

"I heard you had a prosecutor who was very good and he was shut down, which is really unfair,” Trump says on the call, according to the transcript. Trump then says, "There’s a lot of talk about Biden’s son, what Biden stopped the prosecution and a lot of people want to find out about that, so whatever you can do with the attorney general would be great.”

“Biden went around bragging that he stopped the prosecution, so if you can look into it, It sounds horrible to me,” Trump said on the call, according to the transcript.

Zelenskiy replies that he’s appointing a new prosecutor who will “look into the situation.”

That is the only mention about Biden in the transcript of the call. The call transcript is five pages.
UPDATE: Democrats SAY they have their majority. But even the media doubts that they actually mean it:
Two hundred and eighteen House Democrats and one independent — a majority of the chamber's 435 members — now favor some kind of impeachment action against President Donald Trump, according to an NBC News tally.

House Democrats reached the milestone a day after Speaker Nancy Pelosi announced a formal impeachment inquiry into the president following claims that he might have withheld aid to Ukraine to pressure officials there to investigate former Vice President Joe Biden and his son.

Download the NBC News app for breaking news and politics

That nearly all House Democrats support some kind of impeachment action represents a significant development in the chamber's push forward with official impeachment proceedings.

But that doesn't mean they will all vote to impeach the president.
It's rather amusing to see Democrats behaving like Republicans traditionally do. They initially claim to want the same thing, then proceed to fight over the details on how to do it and end up doing nothing as a result. The God-Emperor really has them spinning in circles.

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147 Comments:

Blogger Zaklog the Great September 25, 2019 10:01 AM  

Has he been watching the past 3 years? Yes, they quite obviously are just that desperate. There was nothing at all to Russia, but they kept hammering that too. Is there really a question here?

Blogger Borsabil September 25, 2019 10:09 AM  

Pelosi is not an idiot, she's led the Dems to two victories in the house. Yes she's a Botoxed crab apple but she knows politics, she knows optics, and she knows this is terrible for the Dems going into 2020. My take is she's lost control of the party and if she didn't throw the left a bone she'd lose her job. In particular I note lots of centrist Dems representing districts that voted Trump also coming out for impeachment. It makes no sense unless they were threatened with being primaried from the left. Trump just by being Trump has perhaps turned the Dems into an unelectable dumpster fire controlled by the woke.

Blogger dadofhomeschoolers September 25, 2019 10:12 AM  

Could it be that they are lashing out to find a shiny object to distract from anyone finding out that Hunter Bidens shenanigans go all the way past
Obama to someone else?
What was Hillary quoted as saying? Something about fix, and hang?

Blogger Daniel Babylon September 25, 2019 10:12 AM  

In the improbable case Trump is impeached, how do you think Pence will manage?

Blogger Ray - SoCal September 25, 2019 10:12 AM  

Impeachment hearings have been going on for a while with 3 House committees - Nadler, Cummings, and another.

Pelosi just renamed this inquiry to Formal Impeachment.

Goal seems to use her support to get access to the Mueller Grand Jury for another fusing expedition to see if they can find any dirt on the GE.

Against any other GOP President this would be a good strategy.

Reference:

Nadler’s Workaround – Pelosi’s Upcoming Impeachment Vote – Trump’s Response…

Blogger David Ray Milton September 25, 2019 10:13 AM  

You mean, besides the fact that the Dems have been foaming at the mouth for impeachment since November of 2016?

What they can “run with” are the pillow biters on CNN blabbing on for hours about Trump definitely definitely surely needs to be impeached.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd September 25, 2019 10:13 AM  

Zaklog the Great wrote:Has he been watching the past 3 years?
Mystic on Main? He's dedicated to seeing what he wants to see. Everything gets interpreted through the lens of the narrative.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd September 25, 2019 10:14 AM  

Daniel Babylon wrote:In the improbable case Trump is impeached, how do you think Pence will manage?

Cuck-cuck-cuck, he will cuck.

Blogger Crew September 25, 2019 10:16 AM  

What a wonderful presidency it has been, and 2021 to 2024 promise to be even better!

Blogger [Redacted] September 25, 2019 10:21 AM  

Democrats are not stupid. They know that they already lost 2020, but they understand that their voting base is shedding IQ points like a dog sheds tufts of hair in spring. They need powerful sounding rhetoric to maintain morale and an illusion of unity, and that is why they continue to bang the drum of impeachment. I suspect this is the beginning of a trend for Democrats that will extend into the coming decade. As things continue to deteriorate, the intervals between these delusions will get shorter and shorter even in the face of a legitimate crisis - which they will address by spinning their failure as a grand, inevitable victory of their principles.

Blogger Dave September 25, 2019 10:28 AM  

Of course they already know who the whistleblower is. POTUS tweeted yesterday the "Attorney for Anti-Trump Whistleblower Worked for Hillary Clinton, Chuck Schumer"

Anyone honestly believe this attorney who interned for Schumer didn't go running to him at the first opportunity?

Blogger Balkan Yankee September 25, 2019 10:30 AM  

Just finished reading the transcript of the July 25 phone call.

The Democrats have zip.

But the Ukrainians may have the Crowdstrike server!

His name was Seth Rich.

Blogger wreckage September 25, 2019 10:30 AM  

11. That sounds wonderful. I especially like the bit where they lie in the gutter sobbing "muh principles!" after yet another thorough shagging at the ballot-box.

Blogger Jeroth September 25, 2019 10:33 AM  

@4 Pence is a true believing Ziocon. Trump chose the best option he could find out of true believing Ziocons. He might push a little harder on border control than a Bush, but in the end he'll do whatever AIPAC tells him to do. If he were running, I'd just go back to not voting.

Blogger Dan in Georgia September 25, 2019 10:37 AM  

Daniel Babylon wrote:In the improbable case Trump is impeached, how do you think Pence will manage?

The Senate won't convict Trump. This is just a move to cripple Trump for a few more years.

A President Pence would govern like a combination of Ted Cruz, Wilbur Romney, and Linsey Graham.

Blogger Maorio September 25, 2019 10:39 AM  

Just read the entire thing and well...

tl;dr version: some congratulations on him (Ukrainian president) winning in parliament and his previous win for the presidency and the short snippet about Bidens son and some planning on what to do about it...

I wonder what the spin on this will be to force it through the impeachment.

Blogger peacefulposter September 25, 2019 10:40 AM  

SJW's Always Double Down.

Blogger Gettimothy September 25, 2019 10:41 AM  

From reading the transcript, I can only conclude that President Trump is all class.

Crowdstrike server....wow. Debbie Wasserman Shultz just shatzed her pantz.

Blogger Ingot9455 September 25, 2019 10:41 AM  

Just read the transcript. It's practically a Trump campaign speech! And everyone in the world is going to read it!

Blogger Dark Herald September 25, 2019 10:53 AM  

I've just looked over the post transcript release newsfeeds.

They are going for it. They are doubling down and going for the Big Lie.

Spinal reflex I suppose.

This is going to make the Kavanaugh confirmation "look like a gentle clerical dispute over how many angels can stand on the head of a pin."

They can't back away from this and it will utterly demolish them next Fall.

Blogger Dan in Georgia September 25, 2019 11:04 AM  

I hope they do step on the impeachment rake. The senate will subpoena (can they do that? I'm not sure) Biden and make him take the 5th (can you do that in an impeachment trial?). It will be a shit show.

Imagine Hillary being dragged in as a witness. "We have a few questions about your email server..."

Then Obama. "Mr. Obama, if that is your real name, about your birth certificate..."

Any new evidence unearthed in the Senate trial could be referred to the Justice Department. That could be huge.

Blogger Weak September 25, 2019 11:04 AM  

Is this a move by Pelosi to hang out and burn the insane foaming at the mouth elements of the D's? That way the party can pivot to the center for next year's election without internal resistance. (Then get back to full on America hating lunacy on November 4, 2020).

Blogger Snidely Whiplash September 25, 2019 11:09 AM  

Daniel Babylon wrote:In the improbable case Trump is impeached, how do you think Pence will manage?
He'll cuck so hard they'll have to run a shuttle bus up from Atlanta.

Blogger Dave September 25, 2019 11:10 AM  

Pelosi just said she hasn't seen the transcript but she knows orange man bad.

Blogger justaguy September 25, 2019 11:14 AM  

My only issue is with the timing. I don't believe that Barr will allow political timing considerations to affect the prosecution of the Russian hoaxers. I'm hoping a few big indictments in July-October 2020 for spying.

Blogger Gettimothy September 25, 2019 11:15 AM  

Oh! And Google owns Crowdstrike.

So, to recap...
(((globohomo))) color revolutions Ukraine, steals the gold and subverts their government; probably with the help of Obama's team of evil-doers.

God intervenes, good guys win power.

Evidence and knowledge of the evil known by new president; who, like Trump wants to take it down.



Q. "We have the server" .

Keep praying for Christendom, she is starting to fight back.

Blogger Dave September 25, 2019 11:15 AM  

Whoa Dan in GA, slow your roll. They haven't even proceeded to formally vote on impeachment in the House, which many estimate they are 100 votes short of passing.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother September 25, 2019 11:19 AM  

The rake has been stepped on, and the handle is leaving a sonic arc trail through the air as it travels towards their face. The surface grains of wood of the handle are rapidly transitioning to charcoal as the combustible mix of air, wood, and speed combine to form a volatile fibrous mixture.

As it nears the face, the residual botox molecules will cook and excite in their molecular bond prisons, slurping up the spiking energy levels like a fat kid loves cake. The now flammable splinters will eject on impact and penetrate the maxillofacial substrate and bone structure like a million flaming flechettes, each particle molten and angry.

Finally, the main mass of the handle will crush the frontal lobe of the skull, sinuses, and jaw as it accelerates through the head at Mach 2. The rake continues through the body, neatly cleaving the body and spine in two, releasing the bodies and souls of several small children whose bodies were being slowly processed and stripped of their adrenochrome stores.

Blogger JAG September 25, 2019 11:23 AM  

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1176873524956450820

“Democrats wrote to the Ukrainian government in May 2018 urging it to continue investigations into President Donald Trump’s alleged collusion with Russia in the 2016 presidential campaign — collusion later found NOT TO EXIST.”

Yes, the Dems are exceedingly stupid.

Blogger Desdichado September 25, 2019 11:28 AM  

Pelosi isn't stupid. She's been cornered by her more rabid "allies" but she knows that she's safe in her district. She's sacrificing many members of her own party to this trap, but they were rogue loose cannon elements that she'd rather not have to deal with anyway. Being House Minority leader is better than being out on her butt. She knows what she's doing.

Blogger Al K. Annossow September 25, 2019 11:29 AM  

The Dems need to provide something juicy to keep their current base interested. The policies just ain't cuttin' it. Not interested = incumbents. Also, talk of impeachment keeps the failing media afloat. They need the left/corporate media to stay afloat.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan September 25, 2019 11:30 AM  

I was wrong on the release, thought it would be used to gin up some useful hysteria, but I trust the GE. Hysteria breaks the cucks and cons but the GE feeds upon it, we are so lucky. Of course it is really easy to whip up hysteria in women and that is what we are seeing, just when a woman finally breaks it is ugly and ugly is what is in store.

Blogger Dan in Georgia September 25, 2019 11:35 AM  

@27
Drudge has the number at 207. 218 is the magic number. The dems have a 36 vote majority in the House. They don't need every vote. They only need 11 more out of 28. They will vote for impeachment. They can't stop it now.

Blogger Dan in Georgia September 25, 2019 11:39 AM  

@28
Bravo. I learned not to step on rakes watching Loony Tunes.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother September 25, 2019 11:43 AM  

No you didn't, Dan. Your whining and hand wringing here proves that was a lie.

Blogger Noah B. September 25, 2019 11:45 AM  

If the Dems impeach Trump for asking a foreign government to investigate corruption it will be a beautiful bit of acceleration and go a long way towards completely delegitimizing the globohomos.

Pelosi's no genius but at this point, or in the very near future, she's got to be thinking that she needs a controlled demolition of the entire impeachment effort. They will need an appropriate excuse, like Biden dropping out of the race or some fake news stories about Trump's poll numbers dropping so low that he's definitely unelectable.

Blogger Damelon Brinn September 25, 2019 11:45 AM  

Pelosi has to keep dangling the impeachment carrot for the base, because it's the only thing the Democrats have offered them for three years. They have no other platform beyond gibs, because they promised impeachment was in the bag and MuellerTime would make Orange Man Bad go away.

She also knows she can't let impeachment go forward and destroy the party. So the best thing she can do is make the insane SJW base feel like impeachment is just out of reach and being prevented somehow (blame the Russians again), to drive them to the polls in hopes of taking enough of the Senate to push it through. That's what they did in 2018, and what they'll try to do next year.

Democrats are not stupid.

They're getting stupider every day. Pelosi now looks like the brains of the operation, and she's a ditz compared to the men who used to run the party. A drunk Ted Kennedy would think circles around these nitwits. There's no need to waste much energy worrying that they're about to enact a master plan.

Blogger Dave September 25, 2019 11:47 AM  

Pshaw, Drudge. Let's see the vote, I wanna see Pelosi burn the moderate Dems in the House by forcing them to go on the record.

Blogger JaimeInTexas September 25, 2019 11:49 AM  

Maybe the main goal is to get Biden to drop out of the primaries?

Blogger Dave September 25, 2019 11:53 AM  

Epic, Stg58. Although I do prefer composite handles.

Blogger Brett baker September 25, 2019 11:57 AM  

Unfortunately,+1

Blogger Macs September 25, 2019 11:58 AM  

Someone probably already mentioned thia, but according to theconservativetreehouse.com this is just a ploy to get impeachment rolling so they can subpoena material from the Mueller probe and try and find obstruction.

Blogger Brett baker September 25, 2019 12:00 PM  

Master vampires are harder to kill than that. Haven't you read Monster Hunter International yet?

Blogger Noah B. September 25, 2019 12:02 PM  

Why would the House need an impeachment probe to subpoena Mueller's documents? Does an impeachment proceeding somehow grant them subpoena powers they don't normally have?

Blogger Dan in Georgia September 25, 2019 12:06 PM  

Stg58/Animal Mother wrote:No you didn't, Dan. Your whining and hand wringing here proves that was a lie.

Ya got me. I learned the hard way.

Not wringing hands, though. I think the GE planned this. I read the transcript and now I think the vote may not happen at all. Pelosi can say that she can't because the votes aren't there, ant that's why they have to hold the House...

Trump watched the Clinton impeachment debacle and learned from it. And he doesn't step on rakes.

Blogger xevious2030 September 25, 2019 12:09 PM  

Was waiting for this post. even though the transcript was said to be released, the idea was minimized with favor for the statements of the whistleblower. Which is an indication there are items the Deep State wants for soundbites. And the megaphone of "impeachment" to bring them to the attention of the public. To the point that the RINOs in the Senate are providing their assist. Even talk of Pence being made President through an ouster of Trump. Trump army. Rubicon. Ides. All lessons to keep in mind.

Blogger Dan in Georgia September 25, 2019 12:11 PM  

I was going to delete @33 but it'll be interesting to see what happens to the count now. 207 may have been the high-water mark. I think it'll go down now.

Damn, we live in interesting times.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan September 25, 2019 12:12 PM  

Mystic must be a conservative, the shtick revolves around "only we can fight the omnipotent left with our essays of certain doom if we don't give the Left at least half, we smart."

So it depends on the illusion that the Left is smart.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd September 25, 2019 12:15 PM  

Stg58/Animal Mother wrote:No you didn't, Dan. Your whining and hand wringing here ...

Huh, I thought he was gloating over the Dems coming Loony Tunes style self destruction.

Blogger StrongCoffee61 September 25, 2019 12:16 PM  

As the Democrat Party rapidly devolves from Ashkenazi Jew to Afro-hispanic, they're going to increasing need bread and circuses to satisfy their large mouth low forehead constituency.

Pelosi understands that an impeachment is just political masturbation for the Left and will hurt them with swing voters; however,the Leftist crazy train is beyond the point of no return so she'll have to make the best of it.

Bill Clinton's approval ratings were very high after his justifiable impeachment and I'm sure Trump will politically benefit from a ludicrous impeachment as well.

Blogger xevious2030 September 25, 2019 12:26 PM  

As for Pence, he was the concession, the payoff to the Deep State, to allow the nomination of Trump to not be rejected. He wasn’t a concession by being someone the Deep State was worried about. And Sessions wasn’t jettisoned until after “Republicans,” going their own way, lost the House. Would not be surprised if Sessions was not also an agreed to concession (pending 2018 outcome, Deal).

Anonymous Anonymous September 25, 2019 12:30 PM  

26. Gettimothy:So, to recap...
(((globohomo))) color revolutions Ukraine, steals the gold and subverts their government; probably with the help of Obama's team of evil-doers.

Right. The former prez of Ukraine was corrupt and pro-Russia, right? And he was pressured by Biden to fire the prosecutor who was going after the company that hired Biden's son.
The current prez of Ukraine in anti-corruption, anti-Russia, or at least anti-previous Ukraine administration. I think. This is so hard to parse out and I may be dumb as dirt. But, my intuition tells me that not only are these accusations of quid pro quo on Trump now an attempt to deflect the actual quid pro quo of Biden and his son, but the whole "Russia Russia" thing that has clogged the airwaves for two years is a desperate attempt to deflect from the >actual< Democrat/Russia collusion thing which has been very real, and was an actual attempt to allow a foreign power to influence a US presidential election. Everything seems to go back to this Russia/Ukraine thing. It's even reflected in current splits within Orthodoxy, if I can understand what my son is telling me.

Does this mean, though, that Putin is allied with the Clinton/globohomo bunch? Like I said, I may well be dumb as dirt here. There is some important subtext going on with all the Ukraine/Russia talk, but I don't know enough to figure it out. Someone more knowledgeable than me jump in and enlighten me, but please don't make me cry.

Blogger Jack Amok September 25, 2019 12:31 PM  

I was thinking this circus reminded me of the scene in A Throne of Bones where the guy gets excited and accidentally blows his horn, unintentionally signalling the army to charge the goblins, but the Dems are not that disciplined. But the whole thing has the feeling of events proceeding of their own accord.

So many bundles of dry tinder and oil soaked rags scattered around, and so many fools throwing matches.

Blogger Dan in Georgia September 25, 2019 12:32 PM  

Ominous Cowherd wrote:Stg58/Animal Mother wrote:No you didn't, Dan. Your whining and hand wringing here ...

Huh, I thought he was gloating over the Dems coming Loony Tunes style self destruction.


I was but I was also sure at that point that the dems would have the votes to impeach. It's supposedly at 208 now. But I read the transcript, and Trump played them beautifully. Pelosi may have stopped the game of chicken for a while, but I think she knows she's going to lose the House next year.

Blogger Dan in Georgia September 25, 2019 12:40 PM  

Just read a few "news" articles about the transcript. None of them had the most important line by Trump:
“Biden went around bragging that he stopped the prosecution, so if you can look into it, It sounds horrible to me,”

I'm sure it's just an oversight...

Blogger Jab Burrwalky September 25, 2019 12:42 PM  

"This is a smoking gun." "It reads like a classic mob shakedown."

No. This is nothing. This is less than nothing. It's ridiculously less than nothing. You couldn't prosecute a speeding ticket with information this slim, let alone an impeachment. Ukraine should arraign Biden for interfering in their judicial processes, now THAT would be funny.

Blogger Alexamenos September 25, 2019 12:43 PM  

Best possible outcome is impeachment followed by quick dismissal. The AOC type democrats heads are going to explode when they learn that impeachment is not the end of the road.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash September 25, 2019 12:49 PM  

Red Pill Angel wrote:Does this mean, though, that Putin is allied with the Clinton/globohomo bunch?
Putin is allied with Putin. He's going to do what's best for Putin, and currently what's best for Putin is what's best for Russia. He doesn't give two shits which head of the two-headed snake of American politics gets one over on the other.

Blogger xevious2030 September 25, 2019 12:52 PM  

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Blogger xevious2030 September 25, 2019 12:53 PM  

“Does this mean, though, that Putin is allied with the Clinton/globohomo bunch?”

The focus of Putin is on Russia. And it is clear that the globohomo bunch wants to own Russia, which is bad for Russia/Russians. He is not a binary thinker, and his specialty, combined with his book “First Person,” attests to this. He is for working with whomever will help him in his goal of having a future, a stronger future, for Russia. With the distancing of Trump from Russia, and globohomos having a long history of trying to give Russia herpes and the drip, kissing with the clean ugly girl is what he is left with, knowing full well that she would take over his house and kick out his kids if given the chance. He is aligned with Russia.

Blogger Jandolin September 25, 2019 12:56 PM  

When will all the idiots citing constitutional and legal issues to discuss Democrat and Republican politics wake up? Demographic changes have killed the old America that they knew. Omar, AOC, Tlaib represent the new politics. The new politics is about racial hatred and class resentment.

Blogger Nostromo September 25, 2019 12:59 PM  

Silly. Everyone knows that if the GE is impeached the 2nd runner up is immediately placed into office. Of course, they'll have to drag her away from that book signing tour.

Blogger Argus Bacchus September 25, 2019 1:06 PM  

@50

Yep. Botoxic Pelosi is going along to get along with her moronic, high-time preference, low foreheaded constituents.

The "low forehead", simian look is best exemplified by its archetype, Aaron Hernandez, the NFL tight end turned murderer.

Often it is accompanied by rolls of fat and creases in the back of the head, best seen when the "prick face", as my wife and I affectionately know them as, has a extremely short hair or a shaved head.




Blogger Ominous Cowherd September 25, 2019 1:10 PM  

Red Pill Angel wrote:Does this mean, though, that Putin is allied with the Clinton/globohomo bunch? ... There is some important subtext going on with all the Ukraine/Russia talk, but I don't know enough to figure it out.

I think Snidely and Xevious are on to something.

The globohomos and the Cabal are a danger to Russia and to Putin. Up until some time in 2015-2017, Putin was trying to deal with the Cabal by making deals with Cabal players. When Trump won, and Putin began to suspect that Trump was going to hammer Cabal, Putin became very interested in seeing Trump succeed in harming Putin's enemies. With the potential for Cabal to fall hard, Putin wasn't going to do any more deals with Cabal players, and he'd love to rat them out to someone who can credibly promise to take them down.

Putin isn't Trump's friend or confederate nor vise versa, but where they have common interests, they might well find themselves working together. Syria might have been an example of that.

Blogger d September 25, 2019 1:10 PM  

Ukraine -- doing the job that the racketeering FBI refuses to do.

Blogger Shimshon September 25, 2019 1:11 PM  

What the left needs are some bow-tie-wearers harumphing about the bad behavior of the extremists. The problem for the left is, their bow-tie-wearers are also extremists.

Blogger Gettimothy September 25, 2019 1:11 PM  

@44 yes. Scroll down in the thread. Nadler gets impeachment power on meuller grand jury testimony. Nadler tried to get it previously and was smacked down by a judge.

Blogger Ranger September 25, 2019 1:21 PM  

Ukrainian President just before this one was not pro-Russia, it was the Obama-installed, anti-Russia puppet, after the Maidan protests that started all the trouble in the region

Blogger Uncle John's Band September 25, 2019 1:24 PM  

It’s a common mistake to think the MSM is connected to reality at all. There is no fact, event, or true story that will effect their perspective. It’s why engaging or responding is retarded. But it isn’t random lying either.

Media sets up and maintains continuing fake storylines – like a soap opera – with its own characters, landmarks, and jargon that is internally consistent and completely imaginary. It’s a transparent and low IQ narrative, but the purpose is to provide an alternative reality to ignorant and low IQ viewers. Either the radical left or the anxious boomercons. Impeachment is the crisis that they’ve been foreshadowing for a few seasons, so it has to happen in the story. It makes way more sense when you realize it’s Chekov’s gun.

Trump seems to recognize this pattern and sets up confrontations where the difference between the fake narrative and reality becomes blatantly obvious. The retard response is to wonder why the media won’t change a fictional narrative to reflect what’s happening. The actual strategy is to delegitimize the storytellers and teach people to ignore them altogether. Hard to traumatize and subvert when no one’s listening.

The idiot who inspired this post provides summaries of the current storyline. Like the false claim that there's probably "something they can run with". It's improbable zit's that stupid - more likely attempting to disrupt.


Blogger tuberman September 25, 2019 1:26 PM  

4. Daniel Babylon

A really poor question, as the people behind POTUS can never let this happen, unless they are willing to see the death of their whole families. Extreme, unstoppable methods would be implemented first.

They could have used this Plan B all along, but want the transition to be less destructive.

Blogger Doktor Jeep September 25, 2019 1:29 PM  

It's not just democrats who are stupid. The people who vote for them are worse.
The leftists won the culture war - mainly because conservatives are so pathetic it was like beating up a baby - and have bred an entire horde of "enemy people". The people they are letting in over the borders they (think) plan to slap a uniform on and hand a rifle to fight against us. These people think it's GoT where brown people will die for them in the fields while they slurp their lattes safely inside the cities. But whether it's domestic or imported, they created an army worthy of Mordor.
I have a sibling who is apt to be described as an old school democrat. She still got pissed when one of her daughters went lesbo though. Would love to hear her opinions on the current state of affairs but by only defense against being red-flagged is to have zero contact. There can't be lies about anything I say when there is zero contact and nothing said. Still I'm going to get my based mother to find out. And she will enjoy that.

Blogger Dave September 25, 2019 1:30 PM  

Democrats Introduce Debate Strategy Of Holding Up Small Child Whenever Their Positions Are Challenged

Blogger Daniel September 25, 2019 1:32 PM  

Dave wrote:Democrats Introduce Debate Strategy Of Holding Up Small Child Whenever Their Positions Are Challenged

In the past the only place that backfired for them was in The Dead Zone.

Blogger nidus of inflection September 25, 2019 1:44 PM  

Dave wrote:Democrats Introduce Debate Strategy Of Holding Up Small Child Whenever Their Positions Are Challenged
One way or another, they will sacrifice children.

Blogger The Lab Manager September 25, 2019 1:48 PM  

As Ann Coulter tweeted, GE should throw a few bucks to Pelosi if she is going to assist with his presidential campaign.

Another nothing burger.

Blogger tuberman September 25, 2019 1:52 PM  

Two things:

They do get high on their own supply OF LIES.

And, because of that, they get more and more desperate, when their inverted Narrative gets no traction beyond their echo chamber. Plus, their echo chamber is smaller than they believe.

Blogger CarpeOro September 25, 2019 2:02 PM  

Start with MPAI and build your case from there. The trolls still fall short. I've read Vox's commentary for years, along with the occasional predictions. This isn't the type he is wrong about.

If your not a troll and are simply new you'd look less ridiculous by taking the time to learn the lay of the land, see the reactions of DreadIlk and the host. Though I'd place my bet on mostly trollbots, those that aren't really need to pickup their game if they want to prove they are tall enough for this ride. Or even have chili.

Blogger Ransom Smith September 25, 2019 2:09 PM  

I'm not convinced that Pelosi is intelligent.
Her opponents for the longest time have been: McCain, Romney, Boehner, Paul Ryan.
With enemies like that, you get soft from all the free wins.

Blogger Sterling Pilgrim September 25, 2019 2:26 PM  

I don't believe they have a case here, and they seem to be in trying to sour Trump with the "swing voters" to avoid the unavoidable Trumpslide 2020.
The Leftist thinking and actions always end up in the land of incoherence (rebellion against Logos = abject foolishness).
However, I was starting to grin at the idea of an Impeachment and the hope that it might light the fuse, but then I remembered that there is no "white man cavalry" as Vox put it.

Blogger Crew September 25, 2019 2:28 PM  

@72: That should have been:

Democrats Introduce Debate Strategy Of Sacrificing A Small Child Whenever Their Positions Are Challenged

Blogger Azure Amaranthine September 25, 2019 2:50 PM  

"Mystic on Main? He's dedicated to seeing what he wants to see. Everything gets interpreted through the lens of the narrative."

This. He's well beyond the point that it doesn't matter whether he's knowingly lying or deceived. You don't get that deceived without loving the lie, and either way he's reliably unreliable.

Blogger Oswald September 25, 2019 3:08 PM  

My take on this is they are not stupid. They can't possible get him knocked out of office, and they don't really want Pence in there. They are doing this, because they are trying to get him to drop his efforts to drain the swamp and more importantly to give up his efforts to bring the democratic criminals to justice.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine September 25, 2019 3:10 PM  

I'm much more inclined to believe that he's knowingly lying. Couldn't tell you exactly why off the top of my head.

"In the improbable case Trump is impeached, how do you think Pence will manage?"

One could hope that Deus Volt would be on the agenda. Realistically, he'd almost certainly cuck on everything he isn't in a no-can-win holding pattern on.

Blogger xevious2030 September 25, 2019 3:16 PM  

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Blogger xevious2030 September 25, 2019 3:18 PM  

"Which makes me think there is something they can run with."

They ran with pee-pee gate. They knew it was crap, and they ran with it. They made it up, and they ran with it. In the idea there is something to run with, a "whistleblower" can make anything up, BS soundbites of a known lie. "Run with" does not necessarily = true. Dems said the transcript is not their focus, the whistleblower complaint is. The Senate agreed, unanimously, that the complaint needed to be released. Don't know the specifics of the intentions of MoM, but the quote in and of itself is not without precedent.

Blogger xevious2030 September 25, 2019 3:27 PM  

You know, it wouldn’t even be a surprise if it was some chick constituent of a Pelosi, working with Pelosi, to pave the way for the complaint to make the news and start impeachment junk. Not a prediction, but putting things as beyond their stupidity is giving them quite a bit of credit.

Blogger Andy'scurious September 25, 2019 3:33 PM  

Tears, I've tears from laughter.
My dogs think I'm crazy

Blogger Pontificus Maximus September 25, 2019 3:35 PM  

According to George Webb, the whistleblower is Sue Gordon, a 30-year Deep State operative. Like so many of these swamp dwellers, she has a multi-generational Deep State pedigree, associated with the diversion and sale of technology and weapons--including HEU (highly enriched uranium) to rogue nations.
https://youtu.be/oZWrH9mK14s
https://youtu.be/jjCVnok1Qvk
https://youtu.be/jX7003o6Xxs
https://youtu.be/K1Tf0j_8sEc
https://youtu.be/BUJz0CBxzco

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother September 25, 2019 3:40 PM  

Traitor, in other words

Blogger Arthur Isaac September 25, 2019 3:43 PM  

And Trump bags another leaker?

Blogger Ominous Cowherd September 25, 2019 3:43 PM  

Oswald wrote:They can't possible get him knocked out of office, and they don't really want Pence in there.

They are doing this, because they are trying to get him to drop his efforts to drain the swamp and more importantly to give up his efforts to bring the democratic criminals to justice.


If the first part is true, and it probably is, how does their impeachment effort aid the second part? It really looks as if the GE is going to smash the Dems with their own stupid here. They're going to wish they'd stepped on a rake before this is over.

xevious2030 wrote:They ran with pee-pee gate. They knew it was crap, and they ran with it.

I would have said they knew it was piss-poor, but I'm just quibbling with your wording, not your facts or your logic.

Blogger Haxo Angmark September 25, 2019 3:46 PM  

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Blogger xevious2030 September 25, 2019 3:58 PM  

"According to George Webb, the whistleblower is Sue Gordon"

Is she a professor with a degree in psychology, that can't remember the party, but remembers Trump and the Ukrainian President being pushy on her bed? They always lie. Feinstein, Pelosi, same-same.

OC, avoided similar wording, but mind passed through there.

Blogger SciVo September 25, 2019 4:05 PM  

Daniel Babylon wrote:In the improbable case Trump is impeached, how do you think Pence will manage?

I have a hobby of answering rhetorical questions seriously. I think it's fun. So I will tell you that Pence would likely appoint Trump Jr. as his veep, resign, and be reappointed as veep.

My reasoning is that the very existence of the Pence Rule shows how highly he values the virtue of loyalty, and also his nigh-immunity to social pressure. And if the Senate voted to convict DJT, then it would presumably also exercise its Article I, Section 3, Clause 7 power to disqualify him from Federal office.

So in the event of a purely political, morally illegitimate impeachment, the grandest FU that Pence could show to those punks would be to put DJT's namesake in his father's rightful office. And he might not even know yet that he would do that, but I expect that as soon as he hears the suggestion, it will tickle his funnybone.

Blogger Frank Brady September 25, 2019 4:10 PM  

"68. RangerSeptember 25, 2019 1:21 PM
Ukrainian President just before this one was not pro-Russia, it was the Obama-installed, anti-Russia puppet, after the Maidan protests that started all the trouble in the region"

Exactly so!

Blogger Nate September 25, 2019 4:13 PM  

This is about keeping Obama and Clinton out of jail by forcing the GOP to say "NO YOU!". As always... they are already doing whatever they accuse you of doing.

Russia... Ukraine... and...what this is really all about...

The fact that China paid 1.5 billion dollars for the Iran Nuke Deal.

Blogger Oswald September 25, 2019 4:13 PM  

91. It aids the second part, because I don't really believe that Trump wants them to try to impeach him, because I don't believe he trusts the republicans in the Senate to have his back. Does anyone trust slick backed hair Romney to vote the right way? How many more nevertrump Senators are there that we are not aware of? And the people behind the coup that Trump is trying to prosecute must have plenty of dirt on both republicans and democrats currently in power, and they are probably threatening to expose that dirt if they are in fact prosecuted by Trump. I don't see how Trump can be absolutely sure that he has 34 Senators on his side.

Blogger Lazarus September 25, 2019 4:16 PM  

Trump news conference at U.N. soon Should be on C-span.

Blogger Andy in San Diego and Elsewhere September 25, 2019 4:30 PM  

MOAR Ukrainian craziness. From the tweeter @paulsperry_:
BREAKING: In prosecutor Durham's crosshairs is Alexandra Chalupa, a Ukrainian-American and DNC operative who worked w Biden's hand-picked Ukrainian prosecutor Sytnyk to leak the fake "black ledger" on Manafort to help Hillary. Soon after, the FBI subjected Manafort to FISA spying

Blogger Steb September 25, 2019 4:44 PM  

It put me in mind of this scene from Breaking Bad, where the cop's wife gets caught stealing spoons and, after being confronted with the evidence, tells her accuser 'you're in big trouble' https://youtu.be/4O0b7jmGcC4

Biden has presumably boasted to all of them about what he did in Ukraine, so now Trump gets force their frontrunner to withdraw from the race under suspicion of criminality. It'll make a nice comeback for him in the debates whenever Warren brings up Russia.

Blogger map September 25, 2019 4:53 PM  

I just read the transcript.

First, It's not a recording. It’s a recollection and note-taking from employees listening to the conversation:

CAUTION: A Memorandum of a Telephone Conversation. (TELCON) is not a verbatim transcript of a discussion. The text in this document records the notes and recollections of Situation Room Duty "Officers and-NSC policy staff assigned to listen and memorialize the conversation in written form as the conversation takes place. A number of factors can affect 'the accuracy of the record, including poor telecommunications connections and variations in accent and/or interpretation. The word "inaudible" is used to indicate portions of a conversation that the notetaker was unable to hear.

Second, the bulk of the conversation was about Ukraine owning a CrowdStrike server, getting rid of their ambassador to the United States, and putting honest people into the Ukrainian government. Trump mentions that Biden is bragging about getting a Ukrainian prosecutor fired and Zelensky says that prosecutor was a good man.

There is no mention of withholding any aid for a quid pro quo. That is a media lie. The Javelins mentioned in the transcript were scheduled to be delivered without incident.

The President: Good because I heard you had a prosecutor who was very good and he was shut down and that's really unfair. A lot of people are talking about that, the way they shut your very good prosecutor down and you had some very bad people involved. Mr. Giuliani is a highly respected man. He was the mayor bf New York City, a great mayor, and I would like him to call you. I will ask him to call you along with the Attorney General. Rudy very much knows what's happening and he is a very capable guy. If you could speak to him that would be great. The former ambassador from the United States, the woman was bad news and the people she was dealing with in the Ukraine were bad news so I just want to let you know that. The other thing... There's a lot of talk about Biden's son, that Biden stopped the prosecution and a lot of people want to find out about that so whatever you can do with the Attorney General would be great. Biden went around bragging that he stopped the prosecution so if you can look into it... It sounds horrible to me.

President Zelensky: I wanted to tell you about the prosecutor. First of all, I understand and I'm knowledgeable about the situation. Since we have won the absolute majority in our Parliament; the next prosecutor general will be 100% my person, my candidate, who will be approved by the parliament and will start as a new prosecutor in September. He or she will look into the situation, specifically to the company that you mentioned in this issue. The issue of the investigation of the case is actually the issue of making sure to restore the honesty so we will take care of that and will work on the investigation of the case. On top of that, I would kindly ask you if you have any additional information that you can provide to µs, it would be very helpful for the investigation to make sure that we administer justice in our country with regard to the Ambassador to the United States from Ukraine as far as I recall her name was Ivanovich. It was great that you were the first one who told me that she was a bad ambassador because I agree·with you 100%. Her attitude towards me was far from the best as she admired the previous President and she was on his side. She would not accept me as a new President well enough.


Anonymous Anonymous September 25, 2019 4:59 PM  

Thanks, Ominous, Snidely, Xevious. Non-binary thinking necessary.

Blogger Gettimothy September 25, 2019 5:01 PM  

" Alexandra Chalupa, a Ukrainian-American "

Taco Bell Chalupas are Ukrainian; who knew!

Blogger Derrick Bonsell September 25, 2019 5:04 PM  

Not only is "hey you should look into this investigation that might have been closed due to political pressure" not a crime, it's actually in accordance with a treaty between the US and Ukraine from 1991.

This is just the Dems trying to GOTV in preparation for 2020, that's fundamentally what it is.

Blogger map September 25, 2019 5:06 PM  

Pontificus Maximus wrote:According to George Webb, the whistleblower is Sue Gordon, a 30-year Deep State operative.

Sue Gordon was passed up as the new Director of National Intelligence (DNI)

Blogger Tanjil Bren September 25, 2019 5:07 PM  

"Ukraine should arraign Biden for interfering in their judicial processes, now THAT would be funny."

Has it not occurred that this may be the DNC's nuclear option for finally getting Biden out of the race?

Blogger pyrrhus September 25, 2019 5:15 PM  

Hunter Biden has been involved in multiple corrupt schemes to profit from his father's office..He could be indicted in the US...His father has admitted to corrupt misuse of his office, and could probable be indicted as well, kind of like Spiro Agnew.

Blogger pyrrhus September 25, 2019 5:16 PM  

But I forget....Democrats can't be indicted, no matter what they do...

Blogger Azimus September 25, 2019 5:30 PM  

Trump has a major advantage in that he is the first leader of the right who actually attacks, and actually wins, and is only concerned about the scoreboard and not being called bad names. The left is used to dealing with a political right whose only strategy is to nobly march into the cackling death of their machine guns. Until now, they just had to show up to win. Like English armies in Scotland in the Middle Ages.

The left is fat, stupid, and lazy and they pick their leaders based on a bizarre hierarchical caste system rather than ability. They will streamline and get better, but for right now, anyone on the attack will gain a lot of ground.

Blogger NRx September 25, 2019 5:30 PM  

"It aids the second part, because I don't really believe that Trump wants them to try to impeach him, because I don't believe he trusts the republicans in the Senate to have his back. Does anyone trust slick backed hair Romney to vote the right way? How many more nevertrump Senators are there that we are not aware of? And the people behind the coup that Trump is trying to prosecute must have plenty of dirt on both republicans and democrats currently in power, and they are probably threatening to expose that dirt if they are in fact prosecuted by Trump. I don't see how Trump can be absolutely sure that he has 34 Senators on his side."

Romney, Murkowski and Collins might be willing to vote yes on impeachment (Romney almost certainly as long as he knows there is one other Republican willing to go along with him) but that is it.

Rubio the cokehead I'm sure would be inclined to himself except I live in Florida and Florida Republicans are probably among the most fanatically pro Trump in the country and Rubio is well aware of this.

Blogger dienw September 25, 2019 5:31 PM  

@101
First, It's not a recording. It’s a recollection and note-taking from employees listening to the conversation..

So what. Weren't you paying attention during the Mueller investigation? The FBI agents write up a report when they get back to their office desk from what they recall from interview a suspect, as in the Comey/Trump gotcha interview, or in the Mike Flyn interview, from which they charged him with lying to an agent.

The transcript can be backed up by the recording, not so the FBI reports.

Blogger Azimus September 25, 2019 5:40 PM  

2. BorsabilSeptember 25, 2019 10:09 AM
Pelosi is not an idiot, she's led the Dems to two victories in the house. Yes she's a Botoxed crab apple but she knows politics, she knows optics, and she knows this is terrible for the Dems going into 2020.


I agree with this. Pelosi is their best operator and Obama's glorious "legacy" accomplishment of Obamacare is really her accomplishment, for better or for worse. She beat Trump on the government shut down over the wall.

But she is pretending to rule the mob at this point - and when this dem disaster's last chapter unfolds, I think she will be volunteered to quietly retire - she is 79yrs old afterall.

Blogger Wild Ape September 25, 2019 5:57 PM  

Trump did a classic rickroll. MAGA 2020 baby!

Blogger Joe Smith September 25, 2019 6:02 PM  

The answer to “are they that stupid?” is almost always “yes”.

Blogger map September 25, 2019 6:04 PM  

dienw wrote:@101

First, It's not a recording. It’s a recollection and note-taking from employees listening to the conversation..

So what. Weren't you paying attention during the Mueller investigation? The FBI agents write up a report when they get back to their office desk from what they recall from interview a suspect, as in the Comey/Trump gotcha interview, or in the Mike Flyn interview, from which they charged him with lying to an agent.

The transcript can be backed up by the recording, not so the FBI reports.



Oh, I am not doubting the transcript. I thought it was an interesting disclaimer. It is also true that this is the best copy you will get.

Blogger map September 25, 2019 6:05 PM  

dienw:

Yes, it is disgraceful how the FBI operates.

Blogger Balkan Yankee September 25, 2019 6:17 PM  

Re Sue Gordon:

On August 8, Sue Gordon resigned after Trump declined to promote her to DNI.

She wrote: "Mr. President — I offer this letter as an act of respect & patriotism, not preference. You should have your team. Godspeed, Sue."

On August 12, the Intelligence Community IG (ICIG) received the whistle blower's complaint.

The dates fit, but why would she write her resignation in language like that?

The WB is likely someone else. Perhaps someone who worked closely with her?

Blogger VFM #7634 September 25, 2019 6:17 PM  

The left is fat, stupid, and lazy and they pick their leaders based on a bizarre hierarchical caste system rather than ability. They will streamline and get better, but for right now, anyone on the attack will gain a lot of ground.

"Streamline and get better"? I hope not... and I think not.

Blogger VFM #7634 September 25, 2019 6:23 PM  

Romney, Murkowski and Collins might be willing to vote yes on impeachment (Romney almost certainly as long as he knows there is one other Republican willing to go along with him) but that is it.

Collins gave Brett Kavanaugh a pass, so despite her being relatively liberal, I suspect she at least tries to be fair. In which case, I don't see her supporting Trump's removal from office.

Blogger Fozzy Bear September 25, 2019 6:35 PM  

This goes so far beyond 4D chess, this is "checkmate bitches!" We have the server, it's the year of the boomerang, surely now one of them will finally have to ask the question. They'll never be able to explain away how Trump - on July 25 2019 - was able to bully Ukraine into opening their investigation of Hillary - on March 20 2019 - without admitting: "time traveler confirmed".

The only thing that could make this any sweeter, would be to find out the "whistleblower" was once again that dashing rogue, John Miller.

Blogger weka September 25, 2019 6:52 PM  

@map.
I'm not an American and I know you do things differently, but I have interacted with Ministers of the crown. One is a local MP. He secretary was in the room taking full minutes of the meeting which can and are routinely requested by the opposition or others.

I would expect someone in the room scribbled almost everything down.

Blogger Derrick Bonsell September 25, 2019 6:53 PM  

The smart move would be not to impeach but to trust the polls and then afterwards if a Democrat wins they can go after Trump.

Blogger Jack Amok September 25, 2019 6:55 PM  

This is about keeping Obama and Clinton out of jail by forcing the GOP to say "NO YOU!". As always... they are already doing whatever they accuse you of doing.

In Biden's case, he's already bragged on camera about doing it. The Dems are desperate to stop any digging into what Biden did for Bursima in exchange for the bribe they paid his coke-head son. If it was just normal penny ante corruption like sliding Joe a million or so for favorable trade agreements, they wouldn't be so desperate, but they are.

I just wonder what the actual $$ total involved really is.

Blogger map September 25, 2019 6:56 PM  

weka wrote:@map.

I'm not an American and I know you do things differently, but I have interacted with Ministers of the crown. One is a local MP. He secretary was in the room taking full minutes of the meeting which can and are routinely requested by the opposition or others.

I would expect someone in the room scribbled almost everything down.


I'm not questioning the veracity of the transcript. I do, however, appreciate that others catch this just in case Democrats try yo make the same point.

Blogger Jack Amok September 25, 2019 6:58 PM  

We have the server

I'm behind on some things. What exactly do we expect is on the Cloudstrike server?

(and how trustworthy would anything on it be after so much time with dubious custody)

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother September 25, 2019 7:10 PM  

Crowdstrike has been the arsonist the whole time. Imagine Backdraft but with Crowdstrike.

Blogger Hammerli 280 September 25, 2019 7:12 PM  

@125 Jack Amok: Anything on the server would be poor evidence by itself. But it could be used to corroborate other evidence, or to secure warrants to search other places and computers.

I suspect it will show that the political spying on the Trump campaign was, in fact, purely political and being fed to the Dems.

But the mention of this heartens me immensely. It indicates that Trump is at least trying to move against the Dems.

Blogger Fozzy Bear September 25, 2019 7:26 PM  

@125 Jack Amok
Crowdstrike imaged Hilary's homebrew server. The image would be cryptographically signed, and would be comparable to the version they provided to the FBI/DOJ-NSD. My educated guess is that co-founder Dmitri Alperovitch transferred the unaltered original image to or via a Ukrainian host, assuming the encryption couldn't be broken. Subsequent comparison to the cleartext FBI copy however, noting the similarities and differences, would allow a brute-force attack to succeed. This would prove that Crowdstrike modified the image, removing the most incriminating data, prior to surrendering the modified copy.

Blogger Jack Amok September 25, 2019 7:32 PM  

Maybe I'm confused about what server this is. I assumed it was the DNC server supposedly hacked by the rooskies that the DNC wouldn't let the FBI examine, giving the Feebs a Crowdstrike report instead.

Is this instead an actual Crowdstrike company server that maybe has dirty laundry about the various conspiracies between the company and the DNC, FBI, Clinton campaign, DCC, etc?

Blogger Jack Amok September 25, 2019 7:35 PM  

@Fozzy Bear
Ah, thank you. That would be interesting. Why would he have transferred a copy? Topping up his own blackmail/self-defense stash?

Blogger Cetera September 25, 2019 7:36 PM  

Jack Amok wrote:We have the server

I'm behind on some things. What exactly do we expect is on the Cloudstrike server?

(and how trustworthy would anything on it be after so much time with dubious custody)


If it is the server, or an image of the server, that was "hacked" by the DNC, forensics on would turn up information on the hack. If it turned out that the server wasn't hacked, but that data was transferred from the server to a thumb drive as is widely believed in the skeptic community due to other various evidence we do have, it would completely destroy the "Russia Collusion" narrative completely.

As in, prove that not only was there no collusion, but that the entire collusion story and evidence was all fraudulent, and known to be fraudulent. As in, just a cover story to spy on and attempt an intel coup on a presidential candidate and sitting president.

It would be what finally starts arrests (or so the belief goes).

Blogger RedJack September 25, 2019 7:54 PM  

I am putting my tin foil hat on right now. Listening to my liberal FB family and friends, many are getting mentally ready for violence. A few have told me they are "going to come" for me.

Of course, they don't violate the Fsucker terms of use.

When I pointed out that 1. They know me 2. Those that are part of the Bear family know just how well that would work. 3. Many of the extended clan is much better trained in violence than they are, and they like me better.
I got FB jail.

So part of me wonders if this isn't just an attempt to get things rolling so to speak, and finally implement the goal of population reduction.

But then, this is after my third medicinal rye.

Blogger doctrev September 25, 2019 7:55 PM  

Some people say this is 4D Democratic chess to force Biden out. The problem is that he's a very stupid and arrogant man, and will stay in the race until votes come back with Jeb Bush margins of defeat. And what happens in the meantime? If the former VP has his son indicted for brazen corruption, and gets indicted himself? Maybe Biden will have a convenient stroke. Wouldn't be the first time a VIP inmate died in an American prison.

Trump knows this, and knows the Bidens won't do time for their fellow Democrats.

Blogger Gettimothy September 25, 2019 8:20 PM  

"We have the server"

Demons, in their pride do stupid shit.

The demonically infested, H. Clinton, for example, mimic their masters.

"The Server" is not some esoteric thing; the server is an encapsulation of the evil that is the deep state.

My 2 cents.

Blogger Justin Bailey September 25, 2019 8:52 PM  

I see the usual suspects in the Senate cucked to the DNC today, hoping to be eaten last.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd September 25, 2019 10:04 PM  

UPDATE: Democrats SAY they have their majority. But even the media doubts that they actually mean it:

A vote on impeachment would be too good to be true. Dozens of House Dems would have to vote to impeach the man who is going to win in their district next time they run. Dozens of GOPe cucks would face the same choice. It would be a nakedly political attack, the sort of thing that even normies might notice.

The only better thing would be actual impeachment, which would toss it into the Senate's lap. Trump's lawyers could do enormous damage to the Dems and their cuck GOPe allies. It takes 2/3 to convict in the Senate, so Trump only needs 34 reliable allies there to stretch it out as long as he wants, then end it in defeat for the Dems.

Br'er Trump is getting the Dems to kick the tar baby and throw him into the briar patch.

Blogger SciVo September 25, 2019 11:02 PM  

Nate wrote:The fact that China paid 1.5 billion dollars for the Iran Nuke Deal.

This is the first I'm hearing of this. But it still doesn't explain anything. That is a comically small amount to the Feds, and cannot suffice to motivate giving cash under the table to an open enemy that is very public, vocal, and earnest about being an existential threat. "Death to the Great Satan" is unambiguous to anyone but a pathological liar.

Blogger Jack Amok September 25, 2019 11:08 PM  

But then, this is after my third medicinal rye.

Ah, a Navy man.

That is a comically small amount to the Feds, and cannot suffice to motivate giving cash under the table to an open enemy

The 1.5 Billion wasn't paid to the feds, it was to Biden's family. Hunter Biden's firm got a $1.5B deal with the Bank of China in 2013, ten days after Joe and Son flew to China on Air Force Two. $1.5B is a lot of money to a family. And what would the Bidens care about Iran's hatred of America? They're willing to loot the place, they sure as hell aren't going to let someone badmouthing it get in the way of a $1.5B deal.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother September 26, 2019 12:53 AM  

Rum, buggery, and the lash

Blogger Snidely Whiplash September 26, 2019 12:57 AM  

Jack Amok wrote:But then, this is after my third medicinal rye.

Ah, a Navy man.


Or a Marine. The Crayola-tinged flavor reminds them of their favorite snack.

Blogger John Bradley September 26, 2019 12:57 AM  

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Blogger SciVo September 26, 2019 3:06 AM  

Thank you, Jack Amok. That makes more sense. Typical principal-agent problem.

Blogger Dire Badger September 26, 2019 5:04 AM  

Hang on to your hats folks! Nancy is getting FORMAL. She must have something REALLY amazing to bring to the table that will Prove the GE's feet are made of Clay, Like Trump's Tax returns!

*Reads the transcript*

Yup. Exactly like Trump's tax returns.

Blogger Roger Hill September 26, 2019 5:40 AM  

The transcript presents so many embarrassing things! There is talk of placing honest people in charge of investigations, uncovering what really happened and getting to the truth. That kind of talk is scary stuff. What kind of leader goes around talking this way?

I missed the part where Trump tells him to find some dirt that will stick, real or imagined, or Ukraine will be on the out when it comes American aid. It's in there somewhere, I'm sure. You just got to read between the between lines.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan September 26, 2019 6:05 AM  

Cerno has it correct on a tweet tonight about Chief Warren taking a tough question, Democrats are weak.

Blogger Mystic On Main September 26, 2019 10:09 AM  

"This. He's well beyond the point that it doesn't matter whether he's knowingly lying or deceived. You don't get that deceived without loving the lie, and either way he's reliably unreliable."

It's also possible too that my observation on what Pelosi did and did not know prior to coming out for an impeachment inquiry is a reasonable one no matter my ideological reliability.

Blogger DonReynolds September 26, 2019 1:22 PM  

It may be too fine a point for most Democrats, but neither Biden or Obama were rivals of Donald Trump. They may not like each other very much but they never ran against each other on the ballot. So to describe Biden (or Obama) as a rival of Trump makes it seem that the president is taking revenge on a rival or former competitor. There is no such history.

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