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Monday, September 09, 2019

The Trayvon Hoax

I doubt it will surprise a single reader of the blog to discover that the late Trayvon Martin has been confirmed to have been a criminal thug rather than an innocent, Skittles-loving young man who was a good boy who dindu nuffin and was gwan to college when he was shot and killed.
To uncover this staggering fraud, Gilbert did what reporters used to do. He immersed himself in the milieu that produced Trayvon Martin. He mastered the patois of urban black Miami. He reviewed the thousands of text messages, tweets, Facebook and Instagram postings sent and received by Martin and his friends. He interviewed George Zimmerman and heard, from the only person who knew, Martin’s final words, words that revealed the cause of Martin’s tragic downward spiral.

Gilbert did some serious shoe leather reporting as well. He visited all the relevant Miami-area high schools, the neighborhoods where Martin and his friends hung out, the streets of Miami’s Little Haiti, and the town community where Martin died.

At the end of his research, Gilbert knew Trayvon Martin better than his parents did, literally. As their deposition revealed, they had no idea how Martin’s life had descended into a violent mix of street fighting, guns, drugs, burglary, and sex. Although both parents made good incomes, their separate lives created an abyss where a home should have been, and their once promising son fell straight to the bottom of it.

Unwilling to accept their own responsibility for his demise, they took the bait promised by the family attorneys and sweetened by the media and projected their guilt on to George Zimmerman. Although an Obama supporter and civil rights activist, the half-Hispanic Zimmerman proved to be just white enough to play the “racist” killer role in the unholy melodrama that followed.
 I blame the welfare state for destroying the black family. Democrats are the real racists. Vibrancy is our strength. I don't see color, I judge an individual by the content of his character rather than the collection of his genetic code even when I haven't met him and know nothing about him. The sad thing is that if only Trayvon's parents had been married, middle-class African-Americans, this tragedy could have been averted....

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Blogger The Cooler September 09, 2019 12:45 PM  

Ad nauseam.

Blogger Max Boivin September 09, 2019 12:46 PM  

If only every one of those fake hate crimes could be thoroughly debunked in just a few years, maybe in a few centuries race relations could be healed.

Blogger John Cunningham September 09, 2019 12:51 PM  

To Mark Boivin--debunking fate hate crimes is worth doing but this would never stop future hate hoaxes. To the commies, ,"facts" are meaningless.

Blogger Nikolai Collushnikov September 09, 2019 12:53 PM  

Well, Afro-Americans are natural Bible-Believing conservatives. Just give them another generation or two.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash September 09, 2019 12:55 PM  

If only all those poor people in Little Haiti had elected Republicans, they would not have had such tragedy in their midst.

Blogger ar10308 September 09, 2019 12:56 PM  

The debunking of Trayvon was done in real starting days after the thug's perforation occurred by The Conservative Treehouse but they aren't Authorized Media. So I'm not stunned at all that it took the Authorized Media 7 years to finally allow a some seepage from the memory hole on the topic of their cherubic negroling.

Blogger John Cunningham September 09, 2019 12:57 PM  

Make that "fake hate crimes." Darn autocorrect.

Blogger TheMaleRei September 09, 2019 1:04 PM  

Spend any time in the Caribbean, and you'll learn that no one, and I mean no one, likes Haitians.

It's no accident that such dysfunction follows them to the USA...

Blogger Unknownsailor September 09, 2019 1:06 PM  

ar10308 wrote:The debunking of Trayvon was done in real starting days after the thug's perforation occurred by The Conservative Treehouse but they aren't Authorized Media. So I'm not stunned at all that it took the Authorized Media 7 years to finally allow a some seepage from the memory hole on the topic of their cherubic negroling.

Indeed, the in detail defenestration of the whole Treyvon affair is what brought me to be a regular reader at CTH. Sundance does yeoman's work there.

Blogger RC September 09, 2019 1:08 PM  

Why do people continue to pollute this fine establishment with autocorrect excuses despite VD's many admonishments? Just stop it. If we can figure out Nate's ramblings we can overcome an error induced by autocorrect. I just turn it off so I can own my errors.

Blogger Stilicho September 09, 2019 1:16 PM  

Vox's new challenge: write a weekly column for Babylon Bee. It is increasingly difficult to satirize the left or the fake right without accidentally becoming an actual reporter.

Blogger Giraffe September 09, 2019 1:17 PM  

their separate lives created an abyss where a home should have been, and their once promising son fell straight to the bottom of it.

Damn

Blogger LR27 September 09, 2019 1:21 PM  

I have literally had to ask myself whether I was reading satire or “real” news.

Blogger pyrrhus September 09, 2019 1:26 PM  

This reporter is probably getting death threats already.....

Blogger Lazarus September 09, 2019 1:27 PM  

Need some kind of Hoax List site to keep up.

Blogger Beans September 09, 2019 1:30 PM  

Hate to say it, but in today's world, Trayvon most likely would have turned out the same if his parents were married middle-class, because other young black men and women would have pulled him down into their culture and forced him to conform. I've seen it in some of the best schools even. Blacks, for the most part, are not allowed to pursue individualism anymore, instead are required, by fist and gun if necessary, to be a 'black.'

Trayvon might have turned out better, but I doubt it.

The number of blacks who escape the 'Black Culture' are fewer and fewer each year. Just look at the West Point black women's fencing team pictures, where the cadets are more interested in being 'hood' than being 'Army' ('Army' being a culture all its own, or used to be...)

Blogger Rakshasa September 09, 2019 1:35 PM  

Populations left to themselves all gradually revert to their genetic predispositions.

Blogger MaskettaMan September 09, 2019 1:36 PM  

Feels like Dubya saying he was hurt... 5 years after the fact... By Kanye saying he didn't care about black people.

Too late, too cucked, too gay. You didn't uncover any new material facts about the case, you just want to... Take shots at an administration that's already gone? Present Sowell's tired arguments about the black family?

Guess they needed to spend the Super PAC money somehow.

Blogger Student in Blue September 09, 2019 1:36 PM  

@16. Beans
It's a sad result indeed, but in hindsight not too surprising. The presence of an enemy, real or not, is a unifying force, and nothing has been so propagandized to the blacks in America than the notion that whites are the bogeyman, the great evil, responsible for every slight they've suffered.

It's no wonder.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd September 09, 2019 1:43 PM  

Nikolai Collushnikov wrote:Well, Afro-Americans are natural Bible-Believing conservatives. Just give them another generation or two.

Good things take time. We have only been trying to assimilate the Africans for 400 years.

Rome wasn't built in a day, but it was sacked in a week.

Blogger John Bradley September 09, 2019 1:45 PM  

If only all those poor people in Little Haiti had elected Republicans ...and then we'd take down Pakistan, I mean the H-word.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd September 09, 2019 1:45 PM  

RC wrote:Why do people continue to pollute this fine establishment with autocorrect excuses despite VD's many admonishments? Just stop it. ... I just turn it off so I can own my errors.

Turn it off, or review your post before hitting publish.

Blogger KBuff September 09, 2019 1:47 PM  

Cashill has been exposing the lies in the media's narrative about this case from early on. Apparently, he's still keeping tabs on it.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd September 09, 2019 1:49 PM  

Beans wrote:Just look at the West Point black women's fencing team pictures, where the cadets are more interested in being 'hood' than being 'Army' ('Army' being a culture all its own, or used to be...)

Women are never going to fit into military culture. Blacks' culture has resisted assimilation into American culture for 400 years.

When will Black women adopt American military culture? My guess is never, or later.

Blogger Jeroth September 09, 2019 1:51 PM  

"what could be a game-changer in the way the media report racially-charged news."

Pressing 'x' to doubt. Feelings don't care about your facts.

Blogger peacefulposter September 09, 2019 1:51 PM  

@16 - Hate to say it, but in today's world, Trayvon most likely would have turned out the same if his parents were married middle-class

That's what VD said.

Blogger Noah B. September 09, 2019 2:04 PM  

I hope this hasn't occupied a great deal of Gilbert's time during the last seven years. Saint Skittles' background was all over 4chan shortly after the limiting.

Blogger Azimus September 09, 2019 2:06 PM  

In the end Trayvon chose to play stupid games and win stupid prizes....

Blogger Shimshon September 09, 2019 2:08 PM  

@16, @26 I've mentioned my brother's black friend in our upscale school district. His family was intact and his parents solid upper middle class professionals. I remember him as normal and friendly as a youth. He got into Harvard. It was only a year or two before he became fully radicalized, and has been to this day, decades later.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan September 09, 2019 2:11 PM  

And still conservatives after watching the suited thugs on MSNBC spew vile lies want to have that all important discussion about the details and via them and logic and reason we will all get along. If you refuse to discredit and disqualify the louses on MSNBC you are the problem.

Blogger J.M. September 09, 2019 2:13 PM  

Ominous Cowherd wrote:Beans wrote:Just look at the West Point black women's fencing team pictures, where the cadets are more interested in being 'hood' than being 'Army' ('Army' being a culture all its own, or used to be...)

Women are never going to fit into military culture. Blacks' culture has resisted assimilation into American culture for 400 years.

When will Black women adopt American military culture? My guess is never, or later.


First off, there is no such thing a "black culture", unless crap like crucifixes like urine and the like can be considered as art as well. Unlike the Irish and the rest, they have no nation to cling to, no ancestral homeland. Moreover they were on their way to "assimilate" (in a millennium or so) had they remained subjected to the pressures of the white society they had to live in. But the "euroamerican" society around them crumbled, so they reverted to their genetic predispositions once they became a subsidized underclass.

Now the solution is more...unpalatable. As someone said, the Blacks around them work tirelessly to pull down anyone who tries to escape from "Black culture" or express individuality in positive ways.

Blogger VD September 09, 2019 2:14 PM  

Make that "fake hate crimes." Darn autocorrect.

Do you really think it makes you look more intelligent to admit that you are unable to figure out how to turn off autocorrect than to misspell a word?

Blogger Damelon Brinn September 09, 2019 2:17 PM  

if his parents were married middle-class

You missed the sarcasm. They were middle-class, and they were married when he was born, which isn't true of 3/4 of black kids.

Blogger Salt September 09, 2019 2:26 PM  

" I blame the welfare state for destroying the black family."

That's the foundation. I think the 1000 years to civilization concept were well under way till it got derailed.

Blogger Damelon Brinn September 09, 2019 2:27 PM  

Pressing 'x' to doubt.

Yeah, that was an eye-rolling line. If the media learns anything from this, it will be that they need to work harder to suppress the facts, because too many slipped out this time.

Blogger Gen. Kong September 09, 2019 2:41 PM  

This reporter is probably getting death threats already.....

Snitches get stitches, as is said in the hood.

Spend any time in the Caribbean, and you'll learn that no one, and I mean no one, likes Haitians.

Pat Robertson used to claim that the country was literally founded with a sacrifice to Satan by the leaders of the great slave revolt. I have no idea if that's true at all or just some crazy ramblings from someone who might have bowed his own knee before the Judeo-Christ skinsuit of the same devil. They definitely genocided the whites in 1804. By the time of a visit from a French abolitionist in 1847, the one-time "Pearl of the Caribbean" had decayed to much the same state it's been for the last 180 years.

Blogger Crew September 09, 2019 2:46 PM  

I may read the book, but at the end of the day it will make little or no difference.

Blogger John Kim September 09, 2019 2:46 PM  

I've known it was a hoax from day one, and have been spreading the word and getting hate for it. Now I finally have something to show for it. When you live in Logos, things like this doesn't fool you.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd September 09, 2019 2:46 PM  

J.M. wrote:First off, there is no such thing a "black culture",

As counterexamples: Detroit, Atlanta, Chicago, Somalia ... it's culture in the bacterial sense, but it's culture.

Blogger Crew September 09, 2019 2:47 PM  

Unlike the Irish and the rest, they [Blacks] have no nation to cling to, no ancestral homeland.

Bzzzzt! Wrong. Their ancestral homeland is in Africa and repatriation is the solution!

Blogger Azure Amaranthine September 09, 2019 2:48 PM  

It's funny blaming it on black culture as if the individuals would do differently. The culture is the gestalt result of the interplay of the individuals.

The only thing we're seeing here is the result of our culture no longer being impressed on them. They're expressing their own. If the individuals had even as much drive to do something different, they would. They don't even have as much, and that's why the culture "gets" them, because it was underneath their skin all along.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd September 09, 2019 2:51 PM  

Beans wrote:but in today's world, Trayvon most likely would have turned out the same if his parents were married middle-class, because other young black men and women would have pulled him down into their culture and forced him to conform.

Kolin Kapernick is halfrican, and raised by a White, middle class married couple. The crab bucket reached out and dragged him in. Black culture is pernicious.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine September 09, 2019 2:51 PM  

"Bzzzzt! Wrong. Their ancestral homeland is in Africa and repatriation is the solution!"

Repatriation? To what fathers? Many of them haven't been there for centuries, and have some forefathers who originated in Europe. That's going to fly about as easily as just killing all of them, which is to say they'd fight like hell and not nearly enough of us have the stones for it.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine September 09, 2019 2:53 PM  

"The crab bucket reached out and dragged him in. Black culture is pernicious."

Nature takes the easiest path, the lowest common denominator.

Blogger Pope Cleophus I September 09, 2019 3:04 PM  

If someone would have put a slug in LBJ instead of JFK, things might be different.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd September 09, 2019 3:04 PM  

Azure Amaranthine wrote:It's funny blaming it on black culture as if the individuals would do differently. The culture is the gestalt result of the interplay of the individuals.

Halfricans like 0bammy and Kapernick might be able to resist the siren call of savagery if it weren't so profitable to play the victim game. They are still more susceptible than Americans to the suicidal stupidity of Black culture. Where there are Africans, there is Africa. Where there are Halfricans, there too is Africa, given any encouragement at all.

J.M. wrote:Moreover they were on their way to "assimilate" (in a millennium or so) had they remained subjected to the pressures of the white society they had to live in.

A millennium? Maybe. It will take some extreme selective pressure, and a very long time.

Is it really right to try to weed out the genes that make Africans African, just so their distant descendants can live among us? Or is it more moral to let them occupy their own continent - and only their own - in peace? Since God established the nations and their boundaries, I know which way He wants it.

Blogger Honda Bear September 09, 2019 3:05 PM  

Good to see that Vox has mastery over Trayvon's urban patois

Blogger Crew September 09, 2019 3:09 PM  

If only Trayvon had been told about Lambda School!

https://lambdaschool.com/

Blogger Azimus September 09, 2019 3:10 PM  

By VD's definition, black Americans are their own unique nation in the world, with unique history, culture, genetics, etc. That the culture has been bamboozled by leftists and almost completely destroyed in the last 50 years does not mean it isn't a nation.

I just finished reading a biography on Sitting Bull. The Lakota nation was only about 150 years old when it first clashed with the blue coats. But it was a nation, founded basically on hunting/following buffalo with the aid of fire arms and horses. The Army took their fire arms and their horses away, and the buffalo died off, but no one would argue that the Lakota are not a nation to this day. Again, that they happen to have been almost totally destroyed by their slavish allegience to the left does not mean that they are not a nation.

The humane solution, if separation is necessary, would probably be something like what happened in India, sans the massacre since Americans are A) more restrained and B) more or less the same religion.

I'm not convinced its necessary though.



Blogger David Ray Milton September 09, 2019 3:12 PM  

Dis shit stoopid and racialiss... Trayvonnn only a thug cuz uh France impurelism In Hadee. He jus taken back wut yuz crackas took from uss. U RAYCISS!

Blogger Don't Call Me Len September 09, 2019 3:14 PM  

Kaepernick, a product of incredibly white, Mayberry-in-the-Valley Turlock, is a perfect example what happens when a Halfrican finally succumbs to the pressure to be "more black".

Blogger Longtime Lurker September 09, 2019 3:18 PM  

Skittles are an essential ingredient in Lean, which was young Trayvon's narcotic concoction of choice.

Wrecks the liver. Enhances aggressiveness.

Can't stop bullets, though.

Blogger Andy'scurious September 09, 2019 3:21 PM  

I would seriously enjoy snopes debunking the DL's satire.
Mostly for the DL's scathing rebuttal that ruins snopes for ever.

Blogger Talios Hammerfist September 09, 2019 3:28 PM  

Top tier post Vox! I am laughing out loud!

Blogger Nathan Hornok September 09, 2019 3:28 PM  

If only Travon's parents understood that they too could be part of the American Dream, and that America was an idea that stood for liberty and equality and justice for all, then Obama's would be son would still be alive.

Blogger Crew September 09, 2019 3:29 PM  

I'm not convinced its necessary though.

Tell that to the parents of Channon Christian and Christopher Newsom and all the other white people killed by black savages.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash September 09, 2019 3:32 PM  

Here's a clue for the auto-correct challenged. See that trash can icon next to the date, or the delete link at the bottom of your post? If you so screw up your comment that it's incomprehensible or says the opposite of what you intend, you can copy-and-paste your comment into the comment box, correct the error, post the new comment, and delete the old one. If you select "remove permanently" it won't even show up in the comment list.

Blogger Ska_Boss September 09, 2019 3:37 PM  

Can't flim flam the Zim zam!

Blogger Duke Norfolk September 09, 2019 3:43 PM  

I've got a mulatto adopted (at 2 months old) sister, and she's been a mess her entire life.

Silent gen parents who were going to save the world in the '60s-'70s, and though they would never admit it, they had to have regretted ever making that mistake.

She had a teen-age pregnancy, giving it up for adoption, then another one, which turned into a thug, punk just like baby-daddy. The whole thing makes me sick.

Blogger David Ray Milton September 09, 2019 3:52 PM  

AA’s are definitely a separate nation that deserves its own sovereignty. Realizing that, we need to realize who our “black allies” are. Certainly not Candace Owens. As much as she’s a retard and saying it for all of the wrong reasons, we should be condoning the Jemelle Hill’s of the world as her recent piece promotes black separatism. I’m not sure where segregation would lead to, but it seems a step in the right direction.

Blogger Nikolai Collushnikov September 09, 2019 4:12 PM  

Lambda School? I was expecting classes in full stack Haskell.

Blogger thechortling September 09, 2019 4:15 PM  

hehe. TM and Eminem. straightoutta Hoaxaca.

the poor babes need to be idolized.

Blogger Chris Mallory September 09, 2019 4:20 PM  

Pope Cleophus I wrote:If someone would have put a slug in LBJ instead of JFK, things might be different.

Not really. Eisenhower had already used the army against Americans in favor of the blacks. Euro-Americans had already gone to war against actual Americans in 1861. Euro-Americans agitated and started the NAACP along with the Freedom rides of the 1950's. 1954's Brown v. Board of Education had already destroyed the walls built by Americans to keep the blacks in check. Immigration by Euros destroyed America.

Blogger White Knight Leo #0368 September 09, 2019 4:33 PM  

Except we knew all this.

The Conservative Treehouse and Bill Whittle reported on this contemporaneously with the Zimmerman trial, including the part where one of the known side effects of "purple drank" is paranoia (which was tied to Martin's decision to confront Zimmerman, who had lost sight of him).

If the book has inside info on how and why the media decided to create the "white Hispanic murderer" narrative, then maybe its interesting, but this story was already known in broad strokes within 6 months to a year of the original incident.

Blogger MJ September 09, 2019 4:40 PM  

It's just because they all happen to go to the bad schools. Nobody can explain how the bad schools always follow them around...

Blogger MichaelJMaier September 09, 2019 4:40 PM  

pyrrhus wrote:This reporter is probably getting death threats already.....

My first thoughts exactly.

Blogger Mike Wallens September 09, 2019 4:45 PM  

A week or so after the story broke in March of 2012, the Daily Caller (back when it was good) published Trayvon's tweets. Vile, nasty and predictable for someone of that group. It was all I needed to know.

Blogger Pathfinderlight September 09, 2019 4:53 PM  

Wow, Vox. With all those magic phrases, I bet you're all set against charges of racism. Maybe even as immune as a half-hispanic civil rights supporter.

Blogger Crew September 09, 2019 5:00 PM  

@61: Well, the demographic displayed on the front page is unlikely to know the difference between imperative and functional languages and might not even be capable of programming.

Blogger matveidaniilovich September 09, 2019 5:15 PM  

The original story of the African American child being murdered seems old. Was this somehow culturally relevant in someway that I’m unaware of?

Blogger Newscaper312 September 09, 2019 5:18 PM  

@48
LOL! I assume you saw the home page photo there I just saw.
Once again reality outpaces satire.

Blogger Haxo Angmark September 09, 2019 5:20 PM  

VD smears a dead Black manchild. Posthumously,

Trayvon Martin was awarded a degree (received by his grieving parents))

in aeronautical engineering.

does VD hold a degree in aeronautical engineering? Do any of us?

I think not.

Blogger Giraffe September 09, 2019 5:25 PM  

Vox is an award winning cruelty artist. I'm sure he could be an aeronautical engineer if he wanted to.

Blogger Nate73 September 09, 2019 5:30 PM  

But what about Black Wall Street? Surely welfare is what *really* destroyed the black family after 1965! Liberia is a great nation...

Blogger Up from the pond September 09, 2019 5:45 PM  

@63

Chris Mallory wrote:Euro-Americans agitated and started the NAACP along with the Freedom rides of the 1950's.

Fellow Euros, when I think about all of our evil deeds, I feel bad to be a Fellow Euro. We Fellow Euros suck!

To atone for our sins, we must grovel before every Black Man we meet, support slavery reparations, and make out a big check to the SPLC or the ADL.

Blogger justaguy September 09, 2019 5:55 PM  

autocorrect? I admit that too often I just type in a comment and do not bother to proof-read it... IOW--I am often too lazy.

Blogger Chris Mallory September 09, 2019 5:58 PM  

The nation was founded by British Protestants, not Euros. Euros are the Irish, German, Med and Slav trash that flooded our shores. You do need to grovel at the feet of actual Americans, then go back.

Blogger Roger Hill September 09, 2019 6:03 PM  

Someone give me some good source material on this... Was not the black community far less violent, criminal and dependent before the welfare state? This is what I have read and until the last few years I had no counter information to doubt the premise. Do not statistics bare this out to some degree? Wasn't black incarceration rates lower, although still high in relation to population? They are outrageous now. Were they not more sane before?

Blogger Snidely Whiplash September 09, 2019 6:23 PM  

Roger Hill wrote:Was not the black community far less violent, criminal and dependent before the welfare state? This is what I have read and until the last few years I had no counter information to doubt the premise
You have been carefully indoctrinated. To the extent that Blacks were better behaved in the early part of the XX century, it was because of the imminent threat of violent punishment when they stepped out of line. Judge Lynch's law served them well.
Welfare had little to do with the inability to control their violent outbursts, but did relieve them of the bother and expense of childrearing.

Blogger carnaby September 09, 2019 6:36 PM  

I do, and I'ma beat yo face.

Blogger Roger Hill September 09, 2019 6:40 PM  

Mere statistics would not tell the whole story then. It was the incarceration statistics that made me believe there was something corollary in the timing. But there were other obvious things taking place at the same time.

Blogger David Ray Milton September 09, 2019 6:54 PM  

@Roger Hill

I’m sure the welfare state negatively affected the black community, but the point is that the welfare state is the common excuse for black crime.

Some revealing stats might be to look at the homicide rates in African countries, then look at the rate in European countries and then finally glance at American (a good mixture) rates. It’s a telling story.

Blogger Up from the pond September 09, 2019 6:59 PM  

Steve Sailer has pointed out that black family structure in Africa is very similar to black family structure in, say, Detroit. What we call abnormal and tend to blame on Big Gummit- i.e., dads gone and kids raised by aunts and grandmothers- is common in their motherland.

Blogger Meanoldbasterd September 09, 2019 7:26 PM  

You're silly... Fight like hell? With what? The occasional 9mm?

Blogger Meanoldbasterd September 09, 2019 7:27 PM  

Make Wakanda great again!

Blogger Borsabil September 09, 2019 7:37 PM  

Compare white and black crime rates in the US, particularly violent crime. Whites have a murder rate similar to most European countries, blacks have a murder rate similar to third world shitholes in Africa. Coincidence obviously.

Now compare a place like the West Virginian coal country with Detroit. Both having suffered from (((globalist))) de-industrialization, with rampant unemployment, family breakdown and drug abuse. Heck it's arguable that parts of the white South are far more deprived than black cities like Baltimore, Chicago and Detroit. Now go compare the crime rates.

Black violence is not caused by welfare dependency, drugs or the destruction of the nuclear family.

Blogger Unknown September 09, 2019 7:37 PM  

Blacks in America were making progress until LBJ destroyed the black family. Then the African leaders started promoting anti-Western Black Culture.
Trying to be successful was denigrated as "Acting White". Good students became Oreos.

The end of the melting pot destroyed them. Conservatives failed to stoke the fires and the melting pot became a salad bowl.

Blogger Unknown September 09, 2019 7:40 PM  

Kaepernick got pussy whipped by his radical girlfriend.

Blogger carnaby September 09, 2019 7:48 PM  

I'd still take this guy over all the white idiots in San Francisco

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HI9ZhOYq8BQ

Blogger Tanjil Bren September 09, 2019 8:03 PM  

"I blame the welfare state for destroying the black family. Democrats are the real racists. Vibrancy is our strength. I don't see color, I judge an individual by the content of his character rather than the collection of his genetic code even when I haven't met him and know nothing about him. The sad thing is that if only Trayvon's parents had been married, middle-class African-Americans, this tragedy could have been averted...."

And this is why they hate you *so darned much*.
The Hanged Man, as tellers of the harsh truth so often are (and forever will be).

Blogger Tanjil Bren September 09, 2019 8:06 PM  

"They are outrageous now. Were they not more sane before?"

They were afraid before. They are 'empowered' now.

Blogger Rhys September 09, 2019 8:07 PM  

I don't see how the two are mutually exclusive WRT the discussion above. If you ever expect blacks to act like whites, you're wasting your time. Impulsivity is a unique characteristic of the black race, like being collectivist is for asians, and being a individualistic is for whites. Blacks are always going to be more violent and emotional.

That said, giving people who are violent and emotional by nature free resources is pretty much the worst possible thing you can do for them. Already they're in a situation where they need to work harder than other races to integrate into modern society, and then they're just out-right handed a financial incentive to not even try. Objectively, you can say that blacks would be better without the welfare state. That wouldn't get rid of the problems which naturally arise when you try to make two totally disparate nations live together, and the reality is the only choice is separatism, but without the welfare state things would absolutely be better than they are. The welfare state itself may even be a barrier to normalizing separatism.

Blogger pdwalker September 09, 2019 8:08 PM  

@carnaby

i’d agree with you, but reversion to the mean suggests you’d just be pushing the problem down the road.

Blogger rumpole5 September 09, 2019 8:15 PM  

The following is from a 2016 article in the Daily Wire:
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6. According to Riley, "Black crime rates were lower in the 1940s and 1950s, when black poverty was higher" and "racial discrimination was rampant and legal."

If it's not racism and poverty that are blame for the high black crime rate, then what is?


7. According to Mac Donald, "A straight line can be drawn between family breakdown and youth violence."

As economist Thomas Sowell points out, before the 1960s "most black children were raised in two-parent families." In 2013, over 72 percent of blacks were born out of wedlock. In Cook County –which Chicago belongs to – 79 percent of blacks were born to single mothers in 2003, while only 15 percent of whites were born to single mothers.

"Until that gap closes, the crime gap won't close, either," writes Mac Donald.
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The gist is that appropriate religious/political/social policies can improve (and stupid policies aggravate) the problematic characteristics of particular racial/ethnic groups. We can't turn back the clock and make Boston less corrupt by banishing the Irish, or the New York area less prone to organized crime by sending Southern Italians back to the old country. Same with Afros. They all have been here too long. Instead, we need to turn off the tap on the entry of new problematic groups into the USA and promote policies that will discourage the problematic behavior on the ones we are stuck with.

Blogger J.M. September 09, 2019 8:22 PM  

Snidely Whiplash wrote:Roger Hill wrote:Was not the black community far less violent, criminal and dependent before the welfare state? This is what I have read and until the last few years I had no counter information to doubt the premise

You have been carefully indoctrinated. To the extent that Blacks were better behaved in the early part of the XX century, it was because of the imminent threat of violent punishment when they stepped out of line. Judge Lynch's law served them well.

Welfare had little to do with the inability to control their violent outbursts, but did relieve them of the bother and expense of childrearing.



I may not be the brightest lightbulb of the factory, but your argument is not well thought to put it kindly... In ALL places and for ALL peoples, the threat of lethal violence is the reason a society can live in peace. Just as Orwell used to say, "People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf". Our ancestors purged the savages among us through the liberal application of death penalty, sanctioned by the church for more than a thousand years http://evoandproud.blogspot.com/2013/06/making-europeans-kinder-gentler.html As far as I know, Black out of wedlock births as well as crime rates were FAR BETTER than today 70 years ago, even though they were obviously higher than those for their white counterparts.

And before you start, I'm not a civic nationalist and I don't think a "black nation" can "integrate" (whatever that means) with Euro-america. However it doesn't mean there is no room for self-improvement. If we were to apply the biological determinism so many seem to be fond of, most of the humans (of all races) are no more than cattle waiting to be slaughtered, and I think we know which tribe thinks that way...

Blogger Borsabil September 09, 2019 8:36 PM  

@Africans have, on average, 20-30 points lower IQs that Europeans or East Asians. I don't know why that is, but it seems to be mainly genetic. African Americans, who as a group have a 15-25% European ad mixture. It's gifted American blacks a 10 point IQ jump compared to their African cousins. So no I don't think the lack of father's in black households, the dole handouts or the drugs causes the problem with black non assimilation and violence, I think it's fundamentally a genetic issue. Honestly those arguing otherwise, given the IQ data, are virtue signalling cucks. Lower IQ equals a higher propensity to violence, shorter time preference and poor impulse control.

In sub Saharan Africa the level of day to day brutality would be unbelievable to most westerners, they'd assume it was some racist fantasy. What there's a giant industry in Africa dedicated to hunting down babies, virgins and albinos to be used in cannibalistic witch craft and to be sold in their equivalent of health food stores as sex potions? Nah, that's definitely rayciss! I guess Americans should be grateful that at least their blacks are not cannibals (yet).

So what's the solution? In the olden days we would severely punish blacks who showed propensity for casual violence. Strict social justice policies work very well with low IQ groups, not so much higher IQ people as they quickly come to resent it. Alternatively we can do what we're doing now, which is to buy them off. Trillions and trillions in unearned welfare transfers to stop them rioting and destroying the cities. Bribery also works well for low IQ groups. The problem is that the United States is fiscally insolvent, so what to do when the money runs out?

Blogger J.M. September 09, 2019 8:37 PM  

Ominous Cowherd wrote:A millennium? Maybe. It will take some extreme selective pressure, and a very long time.

Is it really right to try to weed out the genes that make Africans African, just so their distant descendants can live among us? Or is it more moral to let them occupy their own continent - and only their own - in peace? Since God established the nations and their boundaries, I know which way He wants it.


Fortunately for our ancestors, the first Christians didn't think that way. The very fact of preaching and making disciples of Christ of other peoples/races/ethnic groups them forces them change, just as our forefathers were forced to change. Thus they, through eugenic practices (a halt to the cousin marriages, more parental investment, implementation of the death penalty as a way to impose the morality found in the bible, etc.), weeded out from themselves whatever made them "real" Germans, Celts, Picts, etc.; at least going by your logic. Christianity itself is a eugenics programme at the end of the day. The more faithfully you follow it, the more positive the change you will undergo.

But if success is a recipe for future failure, such an undertaking, is really worth the effort? That's question I've been wondering.

Blogger carnaby September 09, 2019 8:42 PM  

@pdwalker, one guy is his own mean. The san fran idiots are racing to the bottom, how could that guy and your supposed mean be any worse?

Blogger Tanjil Bren September 09, 2019 8:43 PM  

"The number of blacks who escape the 'Black Culture' are fewer and fewer each year."

Recently encountered someone who was hosting a black athlete.
Apparently, he was desperate to stay here in Oz because he knew that returning to the US would be his doom.
Black culture will always out, it seems, and the ghetto swamp is something even they realise they cannot avoid unless removed from it entirely.
It's no wonder they want to live with us so desperately, and less than no wonder they despise us for it.
They are who they are and even they know it...

Blogger JAG September 09, 2019 8:50 PM  

The gist is that appropriate religious/political/social policies can improve (and stupid policies aggravate) the problematic characteristics of particular racial/ethnic groups. We can't turn back the clock and make Boston less corrupt by banishing the Irish, or the New York area less prone to organized crime by sending Southern Italians back to the old country. Same with Afros. They all have been here too long. Instead, we need to turn off the tap on the entry of new problematic groups into the USA and promote policies that will discourage the problematic behavior on the ones we are stuck with.

The Muslims were in Spain for a hell of a long time before they eventually had to go back.

They have to go back is always the only proper solution to this kind of problem. It is just a matter of the will of society.

Blogger tublecane September 09, 2019 9:53 PM  

One wonders why this failed propaganda campaign, I mean criminal prosecution, spun so out of control. But maybe it didn't. Because if it didn't result in conviction and if it did redpill plenty of normal folk on the issue of black criminality, maybe it served some alternative purpose. Getting out the vote, perhaps, or setting up the Ferguson Effect.

What was it, four months between Zimmerman walking free the night of and the D.A. laying ridiculous charges for no apparent reason? In the meantime, there was agitation, but it wasn't really a national news story until Spring. Then it was everywhere, and why? Not a great case for the Race Narrative. No Great White Defendant. "Gated Community," but not like we think of them. Neighborhood Watcg, but those weren't the days of Bernie Goetz and Stop! Or My Mom Will Shoot. White vigilantism is always a national threat, I suppose. But it had been a while since that well had been pumped this vigorously. (And with a Peruvian or whatever.)

There was the usual doctoring of photographs, withholding of vital evidence (head wounds), editing of tape (9/11 calls). That's to be expected, but you'd still expect some actual evidence when we got to the nitty gritty. Or at least for the prosecution not to fall into obvious traps. Like putting the "that's retarded, sir" landwhale on the stand.

What a waste of time. By the end, I had to listen to people argue over whether he meant "creepy-ass cracker" or "creepy ass-cracker." So many people made buffoons of themselves that summer.

Blogger Tanjil Bren September 09, 2019 9:58 PM  

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Blogger Tanjil Bren September 09, 2019 10:00 PM  

"So many people made buffoons of themselves that summer."

This is our new normal.
I mean, just watching the DNC's run of POTUS candidates.
And they're actually *serious* about these people?

Blogger tublecane September 09, 2019 10:04 PM  

@52- Perhaps the funniest aspect of this case is that the Arizona Iced Tea St. Trayvon purchased for his purple drank was watermelon flavored. The newsmedia was reluctant to publicize that fact.

Blogger tublecane September 09, 2019 10:14 PM  

@92- If the welfare state rug were pulled out from beneath the dysfunctional black population (which is most of it), the firm hand of Order would have to fall down upon them. Which ideally would involve segregation, but if not that then more of what's now considered terrorism from days gone by. That can be done by the state, private organizations, or both.

Otherwise, we might get what we got just after the Civil War, which is anarchy and indifference to whether they live or die.

Blogger Sheila4g September 09, 2019 10:16 PM  

@78 Roger Hill: "Someone give me some good source material on this... Was not the black community far less violent, criminal and dependent before the welfare state? This is what I have read . . ."

You have been misinformed by 'stellar' Negro scholars like Thomas Sowell. Negro criminality, illegitimacy, general indolence, etc. have been documented since the beginning of Reconstruction. Although a few cherry picked statistics from the '30s and '40s show moderate improvement (undoubtedly due to massive social pressure and aggressive policing) they are an anomaly. Read all you need to at Those Who Can See. There's a particular post there that specifically addresses your question, but it's 2-4 years old and I didn't want to dig through the archives.

Blogger Sheila4g September 09, 2019 10:19 PM  

@16 Beans: "The number of blacks who escape the 'Black Culture' are fewer and fewer each year."

@31 J.M.: "Blacks around them work tirelessly to pull down anyone who tries to escape from "Black culture" or express individuality in positive ways."

Sigh. Culture is downstream from genetics. Period. Full stop. Always. Everywhere.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd September 09, 2019 10:31 PM  

J.M. wrote:In ALL places and for ALL peoples, the threat of lethal violence is the reason a society can live in peace. Just as Orwell used to say, "People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf". Our ancestors purged the savages among us through the liberal application of death penalty, sanctioned by the church for more than a thousand years...

I have noticed that Black, Christian, middle class parents disciplining their Black childern are significantly stricter, and significantly harsher, than similar White parents. Presumably that's what it takes.

Presumably - no, certainly - it will take more and more violent men to force Blacks to conform to White culture than we would need to enforce our White culture upon ourselves.

Borsabil wrote:... I think it's fundamentally a genetic issue. Honestly those arguing otherwise, given the IQ data, are virtue signalling cucks. Lower IQ equals a higher propensity to violence, shorter time preference and poor impulse control.

Impulsive, violent people need strict, immediate, harsh discipline, where thoughtful, peaceful people might need a reminder, and perhaps a scolding. A police force suited to one would be absolutely inappropriate for the other.

J.M. wrote:Fortunately for our ancestors, the first Christians didn't think that way. The very fact of preaching and making disciples of Christ of other peoples/races/ethnic groups them forces them change, just as our forefathers were forced to change.

It forces them to change, but it will change them differently, and they will never be us, even after a millenium.

Blogger Jack Amok September 09, 2019 11:11 PM  

Good things take time. We have only been trying to assimilate the Africans for 400 years.

The Haitians in particular opted out of assimilation a couple hundred years ago. It's illuminating to contrast Haiti - a society of former slaves that were ruled by Europeans for a couple hundred years - with Barbados - also a society of former slaves but who were ruled by Europeans for four hundred years.

Barbados has the highest per-capital GDP of any majority-Black country in the world, despite having very limited natural resources.

I don't know if Vox has ever considered calibrating his "thousand years of contact to civilization" theory for underlying IQ, but Haitians and Bajans definitely prove years of contact matters.

Blogger judgeholdem1848 September 09, 2019 11:33 PM  

Up from the pond wrote:Steve Sailer has pointed out that black family structure in Africa is very similar to black family structure in, say, Detroit. What we call abnormal and tend to blame on Big Gummit- i.e., dads gone and kids raised by aunts and grandmothers- is common in their motherland.

The full version of Sexual Utopia in Power has an entire chapter on this. Yes, the period where blacks had high legitimacy and marriage rates were a major anomaly, the product of imposed white normative supremacy.

Borsabil wrote:
Now compare a place like the West Virginian coal country with Detroit. Both having suffered from (((globalist))) de-industrialization, with rampant unemployment, family breakdown and drug abuse. Heck it's arguable that parts of the white South are far more deprived than black cities like Baltimore, Chicago and Detroit. Now go compare the crime rates.

Black violence is not caused by welfare dependency, drugs or the destruction of the nuclear family.


The idea that deindustrialization is what killed Detroit is just silly. Go 50 feet north of 696, anywhere along its length, and you're in SWPL leftopia. Go 50 feet south of 8 mile, and you're in a post-apocalyptic set piece. The buffer zone between Kurtzian horror and idyllic enclave averages perhaps a half mile. Other nearby Midwestern cities, like Grand Rapids, once also suffered from vast tracts of abandoned industrial real estate. But those that could attract investment are thriving today.

People are shocked by how stark black mean reversion is when it plays out amid an otherwise civilized backdrop. But the fact is that the African genome is not fit for civilization. Bad as it is, Detroit is nowhere near rock bottom. Absent state and federal intervention, it would likely depopulate, which suggests possible future solutions.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine September 09, 2019 11:35 PM  

"You're silly... Fight like hell? With what? The occasional 9mm?"

Tell me when our people gather the testicular fortitude to contest even the unarmed. Until then, you're an idiot.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine September 09, 2019 11:37 PM  

They don't have to fight capably if we won't fight at all.

Blogger God Emperor Memes September 10, 2019 2:37 AM  

He would've turned out to be a nig...uh...criminal anyway.

Blogger Daniele Grech Pereira September 10, 2019 4:53 AM  

Wha gwan

Blogger God Emperor Memes September 10, 2019 5:09 AM  

My daughter owns a Barbie kite. This makes her more qualified as an aeronautical engineer than po' lil Traytray ever would have been.

Blogger God Emperor Memes September 10, 2019 5:14 AM  

Possibly they were more sane but they also knew that Whitey was extremely intolerant of what some people would have called "n1gg3rshines". - When justice is meted out IMMEDIATELY, be it with a shotgun or at the end of a length of rope, bystanders tend to think twice before acting in a similar manner as the recently departed.
"Pour encourager", if you will.

Blogger ÆtherCzar September 10, 2019 6:57 AM  

The author of the piece, Jack Cashill, also investigated and wrote a book about TWA 800 that's well worth a read. Te rest of his columns are worth checking out, too.

Blogger J.M. September 10, 2019 7:43 AM  

Ominous Cowherd wrote:have noticed that Black, Christian, middle class parents disciplining their Black childern are significantly stricter, and significantly harsher, than similar White parents. Presumably that's what it takes.

Presumably - no, certainly - it will take more and more violent men to force Blacks to conform to White culture than we would need to enforce our White culture upon ourselves.



Strawman fallacy. I never denied blacks or other races were different. I just stated the obvious that many here seem to forget: The threat of lethal violence is the way you can preserve a peaceful society. Our people, before we became stupid, lazy and cowards (collectively speaking), used to hang and quarter criminals and traitors. Now they flourish and thrive among OUR people. Do you think there would be a push for the P in the LGT...group if there was a threat of real violence? It's a myth that more "intelligent" peoples don't need harsh penalties to deter the criminal elements among themselves as many have implicitly stated here. We have forgotten the wisdom of our forefathers and here we are.

Ominous Cowherd wrote:It forces them to change, but it will change them differently, and they will never be us, even after a millenium.

I didn't say they would be us, I just stated they would change, and would be unrecognizable from their ancestors, just the same we are from our heathen elders. No matter how you put it, the very act of making disciples of them will change them not only mentally but in time, physically as well. Had the first Christians thought like you, in all likelihood we wouldn't be having this conversation and as a writer put it, most of us wouldn't read and those of us who did, would do so in parchmemnts and not in a flat-screen...

Blogger rumpole5 September 10, 2019 7:52 AM  

Re: "Trillions and trillions in unearned welfare transfers to stop them rioting and destroying the cities"

I don't think that this policy is working very well. Most of our left wing cities look like Berlin in May 1945.

Blogger Avalanche September 10, 2019 8:17 AM  

@86 "Black violence is not caused by ... the destruction of the nuclear family."

Please check your premise -- there has never been a "nuclear family" system in the black population(s) TO destroy! The brief periods where there has been the APPEARANCE of nuclear families in the black population were the result of harsh immediate punishment for stepping out of the mandated "skinsuit" the White population forced on them -- to act like Whites! -- and the severe internal social constraints enforced by members of their own population who did not wish to suffer those punishments. When "we" threw black brood mares and their herds out of fully supported living situations as a result of one on their offspring breaking laws, then the "community" would at least TRY to keep the youts in their skinsuits.

The punishments were laid by the external populations suffering the tumor of a black group amongst them.

Blogger MidnightSun September 10, 2019 8:20 AM  

The major difference between European/African ethics is 1,000 years of work and productivity. This accounts for the higher IQ among Europeans and the assimilation of 'tribes' to create laws that instilled order and civility and gave people incentive to live and work in society with a degree of humility and a Christian sense of humanity. Whereas, in Africa it is a tribal culture whose inhabitants have been more or less dancing around the camp fire for many millennia. The European work ethic developed by monks in monasteries in the first millennium is the seminal difference between European/African culture and it just may another 1,000 years before assimilation takes place, if ever!

Blogger Azure Amaranthine September 10, 2019 8:27 AM  

They aren't impressed with our culture any more, in every sense of the phrase. Therefore they express their own.

Blogger Oswald September 10, 2019 9:52 AM  

The media did take this story and run with it, because it served their agenda.
However, in this instance, the Trayvon story turns out was not as perfect for their agenda as they believed. That is because, the national media is not very smart, and for that we should be grateful.

For the record, I always thought Zimmerman was guilty, but so what, this should have only been a local story, not a national story. It was elevated by a corrupt media that wish to push their racist agenda.

Blogger flyingtiger September 10, 2019 10:17 AM  

St Skittles was a lifer. I used to work in an organization that worked with JDs. If you were on probation or supervision, you met with us. Lifers were the ones who liked being criminals. They only "reformed"if they found a better racket or are physically unable to commit more crimes.
St. Skiddles was breaking into home as a teenager. The younger they start the less chance of reform. He had a toolkit. Judging by the loot that was found on him, he had master the basic of thievery. Thieves never reform.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd September 10, 2019 11:14 AM  

@118 JM, I wasn't trying to disagree, I was trying to illustrate and expand upon your point that violence is necessary to a peaceful society. Some races are going to need a lot more of that violence applied to them than others.

I mentioned that Talented Tenth parents of Talented Tenth children must employ stricter and harsher discipline than White parents of White children. That made me remember that foster parents of FAS children have to be similarly strict and harsh.

Blogger Dirk Manly September 10, 2019 2:17 PM  

@123


"For the record, I always thought Zimmerman was guilty, but so what, this should have only been a local story, not a national story. It was elevated by a corrupt media that wish to push their racist agenda."

Zimmerman was fully within his rights as a citizen. There is absolutely NO law, or even ethical premise, to deny a man the right to investigate someone behaving oddly around him, and to communicate what he's finding.

On the other hand, Trayvon, having eluded Zimmerman, went PAST HIS OWN DWELLING, doubled back, and ambushed Zimmerman as he returned to his truck.

And don't even try to reply withe the 911 dispatcher's "you don't have to do that" means Zimmerman was required to stop trying to observe Martin after he started running and Zimmerman got out of his truck in an attempt to keep a line of sight on Martin.

That was the dispatcher giving PERMISSION to stop (if he didn't feel like continuing).... which means the dispatcher was telling Zimmerman he could do whatever he felt like doing. The reason the dispatcher said, "you don't have to do that" is because she recognized that what he was doing could put him in danger, and she was absolving herself of all responsibility if he wound up harmed as a result of his own free (and legal) actions.

Blogger Paul M September 11, 2019 3:34 AM  

Max Boivin wrote:If only every one of those fake hate crimes could be thoroughly debunked
They have been. Over and over. It doesn't matter. Why not? Because follow the money, that's why.

Blogger tublecane September 11, 2019 5:13 AM  

@Oswald- "I always thought Zimmerman was guilty"

Not of Murder II, I hope. Which was the asinine charge laid upon him.

Look, this was a simple case. Zim-zam eyeballed a suspicious youf who, surprise-surprise turned out to be a legitimate burglar. St. Trayvon took this as a "dis" and proceeded to ambush and bash Zim's head into the sidewalk. Zim shoots from his back after St. Trayvon possibly grabbed for the gun (not sure about that part).

I don't care if Zim-zam chased Martin around yelling "ooga-booga." Martin could have just gone home after contact was lost. It was his decision to doubleback and teach a lesson to the "creepy-ass cracker."

Funny thing about the Narrative, they tried to tie Stand Your Ground into the story. But of course that didn't apply considering Zimmerman wasn't standing at the time.

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