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Thursday, September 05, 2019

Years late and dollars short

Now media conservatives are beginning to talk about how the Conservative establishment should be doing what we're doing already:
It's time for conservatives and what Kurt Schlicter calls the "Normals" to have an entertainment industry of their own. Hollywood has effectively divorced conservatives (and the Normals). And after a divorce, as they say, "living well is the best revenge."

The question is how. It's not easy and one of the big reasons is the conservative world itself. Conservative financiers abjure the arts — indeed they seem even to fear them — unless it's putting money in their local philharmonic to have their name on a plaque in the lobby. Problem is, we all love Beethoven but he doesn't need our help at this point.

Conservative fat cats also put a ton of money in think tanks that aren't particularly effective. I don't mean to unnecessarily diss those tanks. Some of my best friends are, etc., etc.... but the truth is, one good movie or television series is worth more than a hundred, or even a thousand, position papers when it comes to moving society. Andrew Breitbart couldn't have been more right when he said: "Politics is downstream of culture." (He could have added education, which is in a sense part of the culture, now more than ever working hand-in-hand with entertainment for bad ends.)

What is needed here by investors on the right is a little guts for a change. It shouldn't be so hard, but somehow it is — or has been. It's obviously true that film, theatre, and publishing are risky investments, but the center-to-right audience is huge. Plenty of "proof of concept" exists with films like The Blind Side, Lone Survivor, and American Sniper — just some examples of box office smashes that fit that profile.
Not one word about Alt-Hero, Rebel's Run, or any genuine alternatives, of course. And remember, this guy was given seven (7) million dollars by a billionaire investor back in 2004. Did he make a movie? Did he start a film studio? Did he even publish a single comic book? No, he spent it on a wildly overpriced blog.

On the plus side, however, it must be admitted that Mr. Simon was laudably open about the nature of his operation from the start.

Speaking of supporting the cultural war, you can pick up a copy of the Big Bear's tour special here.

UPDATE: Wow, I had no idea, but apparely Roger Simon is a comically stereotypical shyster.

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85 Comments:

Blogger AT September 05, 2019 12:45 PM  

I remember a semi-mainstream conservative saying back in the mid or late 90s that the mainstream institutions were already irretrievably lost and that it was time for us to start building alternative institutions across the entire spectrum of society. Not sure if he wrote a long article or a book, but he was roundly condemned by all the mainstream cucks. Anyone remember who it was?

Blogger kudzu bob September 05, 2019 12:45 PM  

(((Roger Simon)))'s idea of conservative entertainment is doubtless some neocon bilge by (((Joel Surnow))).

Blogger Archimedes2017 September 05, 2019 12:47 PM  

Please update your link https://infogalactic.com/info/PJ_Media

Blogger SemiSpook37 September 05, 2019 12:48 PM  

Honestly, I've gotten a better return from supporting Alt-Hero than taking in the hot takes from PJ Media. At least VD, Chuck, and others are actually DOING SOMETHING instead of being all talk.

Blogger Crew September 05, 2019 12:51 PM  

Ahhh, so (((Roger L Simon))) is a fake conservative:

https://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/this-jewish-boy-is-going-to-buy-a-gun/

Until now. Until Pittsburgh. This Jewish boy is going to buy a gun.

Blogger Timmy3 September 05, 2019 12:53 PM  

Conservatives don’t need Hollywood. They need social media and it’s own banking and credit institutions. Content is out there, but it’s not worth while to create fictional movies. Hollywood neglected the domestic market in favor of the global market and especially China. This can be solved with short form videos on social media or streaming services.

Blogger VFM #7634 September 05, 2019 12:59 PM  

"Problem is, we all love Beethoven but he doesn't need our help at this point."

I'm sure there are classical composers interested in putting out good music but can't get noticed by the mainstream hard-left arts establishment because their music does NOT sound like random noise.

Blogger VFM #7634 September 05, 2019 1:01 PM  

@AT

Joe Sobran? Sam Francis?

And yet another demonstration of "scratch a cuck, get a progtard."

Blogger Crew September 05, 2019 1:02 PM  

Not one word about Alt-Hero, Rebel's Run, or any genuine alternatives, of course.

Well, that's because they don't want any genuine alternatives, only controlled alternatives.

Blogger Sam Sutherland September 05, 2019 1:12 PM  

I remember seeing Richard Hatch (Battlestar Galactica) at Toronto Fan Expo 2015 complaining about the TV industry. He was trying to propose crowd funding for popular TV shows rather than relying on the conventional methods since the money men in the industry are so out of touch with what audiences want.

Blogger Damelon Brinn September 05, 2019 1:13 PM  

He really emphasizes the cost there, doesn't he? No surprise that media conservatives would want a Fox News version of Hollywood, big and expensive and funded by establishment billionaires so they can make it a gatekeeping operation.

Blogger VD September 05, 2019 1:13 PM  

Please update your link

Corrected.

Blogger David Ray Milton September 05, 2019 1:17 PM  

Literally Vox Goebbels

Blogger Azimus September 05, 2019 1:17 PM  

VD:
Not one word about Alt-Hero, Rebel's Run, or any genuine alternatives, of course


They're simply failing to grok the obvious: they will not be left alone to develop a viable alternative to Hollywood, and the racist/sexist/standard sjw interdiction tactics will be applied. This is why this work is so important - developing the tactics required to effectively counter the tactics of the left before the large scale clashes start.

Blogger Whitecloak September 05, 2019 1:19 PM  

Problem- the neoclowns and fake conservatives who have conserved nothing have no vision for society.

What would the world of their fiction even look like? Currentyear minus four with lower taxes?

Blogger berb2000 September 05, 2019 1:20 PM  

I have a pal that used to be personally invested in local media - making independent shorts, trying to make full length film (never succeeded) and generally making some quality things for the small circle he was part of. Mind you that he couldn't find distribution or anything that would have ever made him a success but he tried and most of what he did was fairly entertaining.
He was also a person involved in local stage. And this is where he started to flounder. He started projects with these people and pretty much everything he has shown me is utterly stupid and NOT entertaining. I told him to stop and get back to his roots, but being involved with these people is like being in a cult. They NEVER leave him alone. They constantly demand his attention and availability. I see him about 1 or 2 times a year when we used to be actual best friends (he was the best man in my wedding). Still he thinks at some point since these people are "artists" that at some point this will pan out. I say his dreams are being forced into a pipe that is then directed into a human sewer.

Blogger berb2000 September 05, 2019 1:24 PM  

I mean how can someone that loves Casablanca and all the old classics as well as some of the modern ones tell me with a straight face that he enjoys the latest Marvel/Disney films. How can an individual lie to themselves in such a manner? Is groupthink that fucking powerful? If so, why? I mean it's quite amazing when you dwell on it.

Blogger tuberman September 05, 2019 1:25 PM  

6. Timmy3

The Nationalists need culture, and no one cares what "conservatives" need, as most are either gatekeepers or just cuck stupid. Why? Politics is downstream from culture, and movies are part of that culture.

Creating non-parasite financial alternatives is important, but recreating the underlying culture is long-term even more critical. This is why Castilia House and Arkhaven is critical. Hollywood is not addressing the "Global Market," they are putting out what their SJW handlers tell them to put out, and it is popular no where except among the people totally bought into the Narrative.

Blogger Lyon September 05, 2019 1:26 PM  

@15. "What would the world of their fiction even look like? Currentyear minus four with lower taxes?"

Pretty much. A ship without a rudder.

Blogger tuberman September 05, 2019 1:27 PM  

Damelon Brinn wrote:He really emphasizes the cost there, doesn't he? No surprise that media conservatives would want a Fox News version of Hollywood, big and expensive and funded by establishment billionaires so they can make it a gatekeeping operation.

^^^YEP^^^

Blogger Crew September 05, 2019 1:28 PM  

@14: They're simply failing to grok the obvious: they will not be left alone to develop a viable alternative to Hollywood, and the racist/sexist/standard sjw interdiction tactics will be applied.

I think you are wrong. They will likely develop a fake-and-controlled alternative Hollywood and it will be controlled by the same folks who currently control Hollywood.

A genuine alternative is needed, and it will, of course be attacked as Sexists, racist, homophobic, extreme-right-wing etc. Scalzi might be roped in to excoriate it as well.

Blogger urthshu September 05, 2019 1:28 PM  

"remember, this guy was given literally millions of dollars by a billionaire investor back in 2004. "

Originally what became PJM was an advertising business for blogs called Tulip that Dennis the Peasant worked on. PJM is boring and a mere vanity project.

Blogger Doktor Jeep September 05, 2019 1:28 PM  

In 2009 I was at a GOP caucus meeting watching boomercons exclaim "Obama's people used computers and cell phones! We should too!"
Every fucking time.

Blogger AT September 05, 2019 1:31 PM  

VFM #7634 wrote:@AT

Joe Sobran? Sam Francis?

And yet another demonstration of "scratch a cuck, get a progtard."



Did some digging, I'm pretty sure this 1999 letter by Paul Weyrich is what I was thinking of. I remember thinking he was right-on and being shocked by how roundly he was dismissed by so many we know are traitors today.


https://nationalcenter.org/ncppr/1999/02/16/letter-to-conservatives-by-paul-m-weyrich/

Weyrich abhorred "Political Correctness, which we more accurately call 'Cultural Marxism,'" seeing it as a deliberate effort to undermine "our traditional, Western, Judeo-Christian culture" and the conservative agenda in American society. In 1999, writing that he believed "we have lost the culture war", he suggested "a legitimate strategy for us to follow is to look at ways to separate ourselves from the institutions that have been captured by the ideology of Political Correctness, or by other enemies of our traditional culture.... we need to drop out of this [alien and hostile] culture, and find places, even if it is where we physically are right now, where we can live godly, righteous and sober lives."[25]

Blogger Laramie Hirsch September 05, 2019 1:31 PM  

I enjoyed The Heretics of St. Possenti. John C. Wright's Awake in the Night Lands is great. The rodeo novel, Ride On by Michael Hearing is a good read for normal men. I know that Jack Mikkelson is working on a lot, too.

Blogger Cloudswrest September 05, 2019 1:33 PM  

Speaking of PJ media, they just canned Denise McAllister for reacting negatively to a gay man, who was harassing her, in a way that was unflattering to homosexuals.

https://twitter.com/McAllisterDen/status/1169360753369001985

Blogger swiftfoxmark2 September 05, 2019 1:35 PM  

VD, it never ceases to amaze me how far many on the right go to ignore what you're doing, from Infogalactic to the Rebel's Run movie.

Can't wait for SocialGalactic and seeing them continue to complain about the lack of alternatives to Twitter and Facebook or how Gab sucks.

Blogger Stilicho September 05, 2019 1:44 PM  

You can safely bet that this guy will try to jump in front of the parade and pretend to be its leader if Rebel's Run and other ventures are half as successful as we hope.

Keep the good projects coming, Vox. We've got your back.

Blogger urthshu September 05, 2019 1:44 PM  

I'm reluctant to post the link to Dennis the Peasants blog for that history, although it's on topic and I think worth reading. You can see that they were setting up an alternative platform then egos and stupidity took over.

If not, of course delete. It's the post titled "the certain thing"

https://dennisthepeasant.typepad.com/dennis_the_peasant/ragging_on_roger_simon/index.html

Blogger Ariadne Umbrella September 05, 2019 1:48 PM  

Roger Simon is a former pot-smoking screenwriter. He is a classic boomer. He writes about having affairs with married women while he lived in France. He is also Jewish, and apparently thinks the little evangelicals are nice enough when they are shooting his tribes enemies. He's atheist, too.

But: he's a very successful screenwriter in Hollywood who only hobnobs with other very successful screenwriters in Hollywood.

He is not mixing with the young artists who market on social media. My daughter goes to about a concert a month. The star is usually someone on Instagram or Pinterest. I have heard of exactly one of the bands she is interested in. My son has a phone full of music. I've heard of one of the rappers. The others market on Instagram and YouTube, with self-produced videos. My husband likes classic heavy metal. YouTube suggests small bands with self-produced videos. None of them have ever had a radio hit. I lived in a city with small studios and small albums. I have never heard of some of the songs of the local popular bands, outside of the jukebox at one bar.

In Austin, there's this ferment of indy film-makers. Some of them break big. Most do not. But they give tutorials on how to make feature films for less than $5K. The Duplass brothers. I don't know if they are conservative, but they've broken out. Robert Rodriguez broke out. Richard Linklater broke out.

There isn't a reason in the world that Hollywood would have dibs on the next big thing. Nor that Boomers would be able to spot the next big thing, anyway.

Blogger Doktor Jeep September 05, 2019 1:48 PM  

Be advised, the Tea Party was around since roughly 2002-2003. Ron Paul was not associated with it until around 2007.
By 2010 though, the media and the GOP - who are really in cahoots - had everybody thinking the Tea Party was the work of Sarah Palin. Then the leftist media had all kinds of articles and radio commentary about "the big bad Tea Party with their evil leader Sarah Palin". 5 minutes if research would have shown the truth back then.

So any measures, whatever they might be, to prevent alt-media from getting hijacked by the neocons later could be worthwile. It's beyond my paygrade to figure out who and how, but if there is a pattern, all they have to do it lie - again.

Blogger Longtime Lurker September 05, 2019 1:52 PM  

Roger scribbles.

Vox delivers.

There is a difference.

Blogger Stilicho September 05, 2019 1:53 PM  

"Pretty much. A ship without a rudder."

It's not even a ship. It's a dinghy being towed behind the progressive ship (the good ship Lollipops and Fancypants).

Blogger Crush Limbraw September 05, 2019 1:54 PM  

Tim Kirby wrote this: "The true sign of a great power in the 21st century is its ability to produce entertainment that encapsulates is cultural vision. If you can’t make films and video games about your culture then your culture probably isn’t fit for survival in a globalized world." - he was addressing the travails of Russia.
When I read it, it occurred to me instantly - it's DaConservativeConundrum!
Archived here with my highlighting - https://crushlimbraw.blogspot.com/2019/09/entertainment-is-national-defense-why.html?m=0 - and that is exactly what VD is undertaking!

Blogger Jab Burrwalky September 05, 2019 2:02 PM  

Pshhh. Who would even want such a thing? It would just be "Our Wars are Best Wars" "Jews are Best Humans"

Blogger Snidely Whiplash September 05, 2019 2:03 PM  

Crew wrote:They will likely develop a fake-and-controlled alternative Hollywood and it will be controlled by the same folks who currently control Hollywood.
If anyone from Conservative Inc actually tries to build an alternative media company, the purpose will be not to succeed, but to hoover up all the available backer money and produce nothing but lame failure. This will ensure that there is no money for anyone who might try to succeed.

Blogger Unknown September 05, 2019 2:04 PM  

the baseball player?

Blogger Snidely Whiplash September 05, 2019 2:04 PM  

As if Max Bialystock was trying to make sure that none of the sweet old things would back a competitor's musical.

Blogger Crew September 05, 2019 2:06 PM  

@36: Ohhh, I dunno. I think they need the appearance of an alternative and will be happy if they control it.

Of course, it could be let die over time and they can say: "See, there is really no interest in an alternative to our propaganda machine!"

Blogger Gen. Kong September 05, 2019 2:08 PM  

Not one word about Alt-Hero, Rebel's Run, or any genuine alternatives, of course.

Why would anyone expect otherwise? As you explained very effectively last week, they are authorized while things like Alt-Hero, Rebel's Run, The Big Bear, et al are unauthorized. PJ media has been around for 15 years now and what do they have to show for it? A long list of mostly neo-clowns and idiots (or worse) pushing the Judeo-Christ skinsuit for Baphomet. Their total failure to influence the culture of what is now full-blown Clown World is not a bug, but a feature.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash September 05, 2019 2:09 PM  

Erick Ericson and Roger Simon as Max Bialystock for the Conservative billionaire crowd.
Sorry for any disturbing images that brings up.

Blogger Nate73 September 05, 2019 2:12 PM  

I've always thought the left was just "better" at doing art and creative stuff due to the dominance of hollywood. Maybe they're just better at consolidating at keeping other people out, I'm not sure. How many potential Bachs and Beethovens are there in the right?

Blogger Laramie Hirsch September 05, 2019 2:18 PM  

@27 "VD, it never ceases to amaze me how far many on the right go to ignore what you're doing, from Infogalactic to the Rebel's Run movie."

Yup. It's crazy. Much of our Right-wing lingo today stems from this very blog.

Vox Day is 10 years ahead of the curve.

Blogger Laramie Hirsch September 05, 2019 2:19 PM  

@31 Koch created the Tea Party.

Blogger 357Delta September 05, 2019 2:22 PM  

Conservative Inc., didn't do it and won't do it because they can't do it. Can you imagine the insipid, education fiction, that an NRO conservative would produce? It would make Kirk Cameron's Fireproof look good.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash September 05, 2019 2:32 PM  

357Delta wrote:Conservative Inc., didn't do it and won't do it because they can't do it.
They don't want to do it. They're mostly on board with the cultural changes pushed by the Left. How long do you think it will be before The Conservative Case for Transgender Rights is published by PJM or NRO?
They just want the Leftward movement without destroying their host organism.

Blogger BastionHarm September 05, 2019 3:28 PM  

Whitecloak wrote:
What would the world of their fiction even look like? Currentyear minus four with lower taxes?


I laugh, thinking about this. I can see their fiction containing even more POC than what the Left produces already, but making sure that all their POCs have solid, traditional families, are hard working, are patriotic to the core, worship God and Israel, and live in nice and tidy suburban homes.

After all, it's all about "values" for them, right? We're color blind!! But...we'd better make sure that 70% of the characters are POC just in case!!

Blogger Bobiojimbo September 05, 2019 3:29 PM  

I thought the same thing about all of the prosperity preachers and their big homes and jets.

All of that wealth could've gone into an alternative to Hollywood or something else.

Blogger Daniel September 05, 2019 3:32 PM  

Archive of the now deleted update link:

http://web.archive.org/web/20060207111707/https://dennisthepeasant.typepad.com/dennis_the_peasant/2005/11/the_certain_thi.html

Blogger Brick Hardslab September 05, 2019 3:59 PM  

Would a alt-hero TV series make sense? Maybe give unauthorized some more content

Blogger Korbin Ransley September 05, 2019 4:01 PM  

@49 Daniel

Nice, thank you.

Blogger Roberto Masioni September 05, 2019 4:30 PM  

A successful Western organization must have the strength to say to non-Westerners, "No. This is our thing."

Blogger Timmy3 September 05, 2019 4:31 PM  

I’m not sure what distinction you’re making between Nationalist and Conservative in this context. Of course, culture is important, but many have turned away from Hollywood as evidenced from box office receipts. For anyone attempting to make movies for a diminished audience is making the wrong bet. It’s completely wrong for you to say the global market is not Hollywood’s target. That’s where all blockbusters are designed for. Just like traditional domestic views and viewers are ignored or discouraged. These go hand in hand.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash September 05, 2019 5:08 PM  

Timmy3 wrote:I’m not sure what distinction you’re making between Nationalist and Conservative in this context.
Then maybe you're missing the entire fucking point and you should either read more, or even try thinking, before you comment.

Blogger Kara Mesude September 05, 2019 5:08 PM  

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Blogger MichaelJMaier September 05, 2019 5:19 PM  

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Blogger Timmy3 September 05, 2019 5:26 PM  

Who are you? Try to post in the thread. I comment when I wish. You can ignore. Maybe you’re missing the f’ing point by not ignoring.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan September 05, 2019 5:34 PM  

College football that's a cash burner making sure to recruit people who hate your guts.

Blogger Crew September 05, 2019 5:55 PM  

And now another fake conservative tells us that (Almost) Everything You Know About GamerGate is Wrong

Blogger MrNiceguy September 05, 2019 6:02 PM  

I'd love to see it done as an animated series, myself.

Blogger MichaelJMaier September 05, 2019 6:03 PM  

I still want a video game where I get to shoot invading Mexicans coming over the wall in waves.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash September 05, 2019 6:26 PM  

Timmy3 wrote:Who are you?
You're new here, obviously.

Try to post in the thread. I comment when I wish. You can ignore. Maybe you’re missing the f’ing point by not ignoring.
Maybe you should stay on topic and not get a stick up your ass when you don't know the local rules.
You start by saying you are missing the entire point of the posting, and then proceed to opine in your admitted ignorance, that the projects being run by the host are stupid and counter-productive.
By all means continue to demonstrate your idiocy and effeminate style. Just expect to be called on it by commenters here who are considerably smarter and better informed than you are. I'll be here to clean up the mess when you are inevitably triggered into a screaming melt-down.

Blogger Timmy3 September 05, 2019 6:41 PM  

I was on-topic. I was responding to a reply.

Blogger NO GOOGLES September 05, 2019 6:44 PM  

Shorter Roger Simon:
"Give me your shekels so I can make movies about the Holocaust and Ronald Reagan, goy!"

Blogger Azimus September 05, 2019 7:39 PM  

@ Crew - you're not actually disagreeing, you're describing a parallel taxtic.

Blogger CM September 05, 2019 7:42 PM  

I've always thought the left was just "better" at doing art and creative stuff due to the dominance of hollywood. Maybe they're just better at consolidating at keeping other people out, I'm not sure. How many potential Bachs and Beethovens are there in the right?

I think there's something in the lefty that makes them excellent at creating new things but makes them really shitty at vision.

When the theater was considered a profession for degenerates, the theater did more to represent the culture of their "betters", else they would have no audience.

When artists and actors were elevated to being respectable and role models, their thinking and culture became dominant in their art.

Lefties (or short time preference people) are great for creative destruction and creating cultural artifacts, but they need to be bounded or subjugated to the virtues of the long time preferences of righties who know how to build civilizations.

The problem was making the lefties think they had a vision worth sharing.

Blogger nswhorse September 05, 2019 7:46 PM  

I recall a few years ago Bill Whittle was attempting to make his own crowd funded movies. Whittle's views are as establishment conservarive as you can get. If he figured it out, how come none of the rest of them were able to?

Blogger Snidely Whiplash September 05, 2019 7:52 PM  

If you are being funded by a civnat Libertarian of the conventional Conservative Inc supporter stripe, do you really want to persuade your patron that he would get better return on his investment investing in comics and film?
Is your broker ever going to recommend pulling all of your money out of the market0?

Blogger Unknownsailor September 05, 2019 8:40 PM  

If Glen Reynolds decided to move his monster of a blog somewhere else, pjmedia would dry up in a month. I don't go there for anything else.

Blogger Unknownsailor September 05, 2019 8:47 PM  

I was thinking about a tv drama idea today, while on the road.

White, traditional family. Dad works at an auto dealership, mom is a stay at home. 3 kids, eldest just started college at the local state university, as anything else was too expensive. Middle boy is a sophomore in HS. Youngest is the daughter, in Jr high. All go to a real christian church, and live biblical lives.

Drama comes from various places: the hostile college environment to the eldest, the hostile peer environment for the high schooler, and the siren song of victimhood calling to the young daughter.

If that isn't enough, place them at the outskirts of baltimore, and have them deal with all the negative aspects that come with proximity to diversity. Property crime, violent crime, general hostility towards whites.

I could think of no lesser provocation of the left than to show what a good, beautiful family looks like on TV.

Imagine the howls of condemnation, they would be music to my ears.

Blogger The Deuce September 05, 2019 9:10 PM  

Speaking of the fakes running PJ Media: https://twitter.com/McAllisterDen/status/1169360753369001985

Blogger HouellebecqGurl September 05, 2019 10:04 PM  

Not to make this all about me, but Roger has been following me & being quite friendly in doing so, on Twitter since 2008-9.
So what, right?
Well, my Twitter acct is virulently anti-Neocon and we ALL know RW Jews know that's a dog whistle.
I've always wondered what his interest in me has been, unless he just likes his moderately anti-Semitic content coming from ladies younger than him, which ok.
Weird, tho.
I've always liked Glenn Reynolds, despite his Conservatarian bent, but the rest of PJ Media is pure Shiite. BoomerCon Bill Whittle used to make some so-so content back in the actual PJ Media days.
Other than that, a complete and utter flop.
Vox has accomplished much much more with much much less.

Blogger HouellebecqGurl September 05, 2019 10:08 PM  

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Blogger HouellebecqGurl September 05, 2019 10:14 PM  

I was personal friends with Andrew Breitbart and helped with the launch of Breitbart TV and Big Hollywood, (do any of you remember either of those, lol?) and must have repeated the "politics is downstream from culture line," a million times.
Thing is, I think it's backwards, and that culture is downstream from politics.
It's much the same as with Lil Benjy Shapiro's favorite line, "facts don't care about your feelings."
Maybe that was true at one time but I am positive that in Current Year 4, "feelings don't care about your facts."
Otherwise we wouldn't be forced to call men in bad lace front wigs, women.

Blogger tuberman September 05, 2019 10:17 PM  

Timmy3

I just got back or I would have replied earlier.

There are differences between Nationalist and "Conservatives."

"Conservatives conserve nothing" is a major point, and true.

Yet, it's worse than that, most people who call themselves conservatives are Gatekeepers, paid to keep people from fully waking up from the Narrative.

Let me illustrate: The Epstein Case

Most conservative pundits steer people away from the complete truth.

They may admit he was a Pedo and he blackmailed many others by capturing various famous and important people having sex with underage girls and boys. Also, he did this for years.

This does not make any sense, as these powerful people would of had him killed many years ago, if he was simple doing it for money.

But what if there were organizations behind him, and the the main purpose was control and not money. Control of powerful people, so the organization supplied Epstein the money, and the power to stay alive as long as he was an asset, and not a lose end.

Epstein had a girlfriend, named G. Maxwell, who was known to procure young girls for Epstein, and her and her father were also well known Mossad operatives. This is not a coincidence, as there are a number of other connections between Epstein, his Pedo activities, and the Mossad. Dots logically connected suggest Epsteins Pedo ring was a Mossad operation to control powerful people.

Not a single Conservative Pundit will even touch this. Yet a Nationalist will, and without being antisemitic, or being afraid of being called names for following obvious connections.

Blogger Ty Richards September 05, 2019 10:19 PM  

The real talent like you and Owen create regardless of the circumstances. I’m at a pace of one album per year with my music and do design/web work for myself and tons of other companies. All we have to do is build a basic infrastructure (like unauthorized.tv) and attract good talent. There is no shortage of quality people to make it happen

Blogger HouellebecqGurl September 05, 2019 10:19 PM  

Oy vey!
Weyrich was concerned about (((CultMarx))) undermining our "traditional Western (((Judeo-Christian))) culture?"
Oy gevalt!

Blogger HouellebecqGurl September 05, 2019 10:23 PM  

Tea Party in 2002-03? Are you high? No one even THOUGHT about the idea until 2008. It started with a commenter on Michelle Malkin's old blog. She organized the 1st one.

Blogger Blaidd September 05, 2019 10:41 PM  

It will be interesting to see how many people are suddenly trying to jump on board when Rebel's Run is successful.

Blogger Timmy3 September 05, 2019 11:33 PM  

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Blogger Ominous Cowherd September 06, 2019 12:01 AM  

@57, dude, if you have to ask the regulars ``who are you,'' you should lurk a while longer. That's a good rule anywhere.

Blogger Garuna September 06, 2019 2:16 AM  

I've always thought the left was just "better" at doing art and creative stuff due to the dominance of hollywood. Maybe they're just better at consolidating at keeping other people out, I'm not sure.

This is only a problem in a handful of white cuck countries. I've switched to Asian cinema recently and it's not really a problem there at all. The biggest Korean, Japanese, Chinese films tend to be very nationalistic. Bollywood tends to be hardcore nationalist, and their biggest blockbuster this year is about an alpha shitlord which "glorifies toxic masculinity" according to SJWs impotently whining about it.

A lot of these Asian films, particularly the Korean and Japanese ones, are objectively superior to recent Hollywood schlock. So it's not really a matter of quality either.

Now obviously due to the money and fame involved, the people drawn to these industries tend to be more degenerate than average. And their version of right-wing isn't about "muh free market capitalism" or "muh real principled cuckservatism". But many of the biggest people in these film industries openly support right-wing political parties and causes. Some are even winning parliamentary elections running as right-wing nationalists. So right-wing presence, and in some cases dominance, in these artistic industries is not really in doubt.

The liberal-leftists didn't even always control Hollywood like they do now. Some of the earliest Hollywood hits were hardcore racist and one even triggered the rebirth of the KKK for fuck's sake.

If anything, the more control that liberal-leftists have gained over Hollywood, the shittier their product has become.

I think the real problem is gatekeeping. Not just between the left vs right, but within the right itself. Because liberal-leftist is a real thing. I don't even know what "conservatism" is even supposed to be at this point due to its opposition to nationalism.

Blogger wreckage September 06, 2019 9:46 AM  

@82; the anti-nationalist strain is going to die out REAL fast. They are cucks, and when the simple reality of nations being necessary to people wins out and becomes embarrassing to oppose, they will cuck to it as well.

Blogger tuberman September 06, 2019 10:31 AM  

74. HouellebecqGurl,

Namedropping. Yes, sometimes you are all about YOU.
The facts vs. feelings is covered well by the discussions of Rhetoric on here, but good rhetoric has Facts behind it, just deals with feelings first.

BS says a lot of things that have truth to them. It's to cover what he doesn't say, and his lies such as Judeo-Christianity. Attacking Benny is like Benny attacking AOC. He's an easy target, and he has almost no organic audience. He is merely an example of how an incredibly weak Gatekeeper can still be propped up. Same with all the Neocons.

Very intelligently used Rhetoric with underlying hard hitting facts is the way to go.

"Thing is, I think it's backwards, and that culture is downstream from politics." Naw, only in the contrived inverted world. Do you stand for the looking glass world these days? Stick with your older stand, "Politics is downstream from Culture." The opposite is too clever by half. We simply need to regain culture footing, meaning movies, music, books, stories of all kinds, memes, and etc.

Blogger Dan in Georgia September 07, 2019 4:46 AM  

swiftfoxmark2 wrote:VD, it never ceases to amaze me how far many on the right go to ignore what you're doing, from Infogalactic to the Rebel's Run movie.

Can't wait for SocialGalactic and seeing them continue to complain about the lack of alternatives to Twitter and Facebook or how Gab sucks.


I was on SocialGalactic 1.0 but hadn't read/commented on the blog much. Now that I have been on VP more, and have just about quit twitter, I'm really looking forward to SG 2.0.

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