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Thursday, October 03, 2019

Ware the omega

I've talked about the importance of keeping gammas out of your organizations, but omegas are certainly capable of posing a problem as well:
A deaf computer scientist slaughtered four of his colleagues in a knife rampage at the police headquarters in Paris today.

The attacker, believed to be a 45-year-old who had worked for Paris police for 20 years, was shot dead in the courtyard after murdering his colleagues with a ceramic knife.

At least one of the dead is a policewoman and witnesses described a 'panic' in the building as the attack unfolded at Thursday lunchtime.

The motive for the bloodbath is not yet clear but investigators suspect it was caused by a workplace row.

Union officials said there had been 'tensions' between the man and his supervisor and described the attack as a 'moment of madness'.

Colleagues described the knifeman as a trusted, long-serving employee who had full security clearance and had never caused problems before.
It also tends to raise the question of relying upon the police to protect you from criminals with guns when they can't even defend themselves from one deaf nerd with a kitchen knife.

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72 Comments:

Blogger thalios October 03, 2019 11:23 AM  

Hmmm... Why the emphasis on "policewoman"? We're not all equal after all. Almost like a theory that was falsified was never really believed anyway.

Blogger Brett baker October 03, 2019 11:24 AM  

Fellow Omegas, a hint; don't post this at work.

Blogger KPKinSunnyPhiladelphia October 03, 2019 11:26 AM  

According to the Daily Mail account, the guy was from Martinque, suggesting, of course, the he was a Caribbean black.

Not that there anything wrong with that.

Blogger Scuzzaman October 03, 2019 11:28 AM  

Paris needs gun control.

Blogger Ska_Boss October 03, 2019 11:30 AM  

The assailant was heard to be muttering "I believe you have my stapler" during the rampage.

Blogger Crew October 03, 2019 11:31 AM  

@3: Wait, you mean Pedowood didn't want him for the remake of Terminator 2?

Blogger Gregory the Great October 03, 2019 11:33 AM  

Every time he saw one of his colleagues move theirs mouths he thought they were making racist comments about him, so understandably a tremendous rage built up inside him.

Blogger VFM #7634 October 03, 2019 11:33 AM  

@KPK

Being omega AND black practically guarantees a timebomb.

Blogger HouellebecqGurl October 03, 2019 11:35 AM  

I wondered that, as well.
Female police are just a way to mock serious people and rub it in our faces while daring us to say anything negative so they can punish us.
One of my favorite YT channels is a guy who makes functional knifes out of cardboard, Jello, rice flour, etc.
I can see people beginning to make weapons out of alternative materials to bypass metal detectors.
You can make a STRONG hammer/knife out of a book and poly resin.
All you have to do is paint each page of the book, weigh it down & leave it to cure, and you can just treat it like wood & use a band saw and sander to shape and smooth it.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd October 03, 2019 11:37 AM  

@4, Paris needs ceramic knife control. Or maybe immigrant from Martinique control.

Blogger peacefulposter October 03, 2019 11:37 AM  

Omega goes Postal.

Again.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd October 03, 2019 11:39 AM  

HouellebecqGurl wrote:I can see people beginning to make weapons out of alternative materials to bypass metal detectors.

You can make a STRONG hammer/knife out of a book and poly resin.


A number 2 pencil is a pretty good stabber.

Blogger [Redacted] October 03, 2019 11:52 AM  

I've seen something like this before. For his entire career, he couldn't hear them talking behind his back, then somehow he became aware of it. I would like to imagine that he deployed the speech-to-text surveillance tech on his coworkers and found out that way, but who knows.

Blogger VFM #7634 October 03, 2019 11:54 AM  

@Ominous Cowherd

France stupidly held onto Martinique through decolonization and is now stuck with it as the islanders don't want independence at all any more. Just like us with Puerto Rico.

Blogger Borsabil October 03, 2019 12:01 PM  

"All you have to do is paint each page of the book, weigh it down & leave it to cure, and you can just treat it like wood & use a band saw and sander to shape and smooth it."

Or you could use wood.

"Paris needs ceramic knife control."

When England was English gun ownership was legal and widespread and the murder rate was incredibly low. Now they're talking about banning any piece of metal with a pointy end and London has a murder rate higher than Jew York (actually way, way higher if the UK government actually reported real homicide stats). The white parts of America have murder rates similar to Switzerland, the black parts to Johannesburg. Clearly this is the fault of poor weapon control.

Blogger John Bradley October 03, 2019 12:02 PM  

You can make a STRONG hammer/knife out of a book and poly resin. All you have to do is paint each page of the book, weigh it down & leave it to cure, and you can just treat it like wood & use a band saw and sander to shape and smooth it.

Wouldn't it be cheaper and easier to just use wood instead? I mean, it literally grows on trees, and people have been stabbing each other with pointy sticks for as long as there's been people.

Blogger Unknownsailor October 03, 2019 12:07 PM  

As I'm sure Vox can describe, defending against a knife attack is not easy, even for trained people, and often results in non OEM holes that leak badly.

I doubt French police are any more or less trained than US police when it comes to edged weapons, and are probably less trained on their sidearms, for those who have them, so while it is tragic that someone can do this, I don't find it surprising at all.

Tueller drill derived distance exists for a reason. Knives are dangerous shit in close.

Blogger dienw October 03, 2019 12:13 PM  

Ominous Cowherd wrote:HouellebecqGurl wrote:I can see people beginning to make weapons out of alternative materials to bypass metal detectors.

You can make a STRONG hammer/knife out of a book and poly resin.


A number 2 pencil is a pretty good stabber.


A fine point roller-ball.

Blogger Borsabil October 03, 2019 12:17 PM  

@16 I think the point being made is that spending 5 minutes carving out a wooden knife is not as autistic as spending hours and hours making one out of resin and paper? And so obviously not as good. Or are we talking prison rules where wood and an actual knife to carve aren't available?

Blogger Up from the pond October 03, 2019 12:19 PM  

KPKinSunnyPhiladelphia wrote:According to the Daily Mail account, the guy was from Martinque, suggesting, of course, the he was a Caribbean black.

Omegas can't catch a break. Now they are getting tarred with the crimes of black migrants.

Joking aside, I thought Omegas were passive. Isn't the stapler guy in "Office Space" a Gamma? I probably need to go outdoors and get some sun.

Blogger Wilkes Marprelate October 03, 2019 12:22 PM  

@thalios: Ya, I wondered that, too. Like, why does that matter? Four people are dead, why single out the woman? Oh ya, something something feminism and women are the most hurt people ever.

Blogger Wilkes Marprelate October 03, 2019 12:24 PM  

@KPKinSunnyPhiladelphia: So, basically, despite . . .

Blogger Borsabil October 03, 2019 12:33 PM  

SullyRob is a pedo. Thanks to gammas like this we'll be back to pre-moderation I guess. Every fucking time.

Blogger Unknown October 03, 2019 12:35 PM  

@SullyRob almost opened one of those on my work computer... phew. Gammacide needed.

Blogger RC October 03, 2019 12:38 PM  

This joker obviously knows his way around the porn world, tells us all we need to know about Silly Rob.

Blogger Capital6 October 03, 2019 12:46 PM  

These delightful Gamma actions are why Omegas want to remove your collective kidneys with a grapefruit spoon.

Omega rage is a scary thing. It's not something you want to be involved in.

Blogger sumdudesfrysauce October 03, 2019 12:47 PM  

So because someone won't talk to him he throws a hissy fit. Just like an immature child.

Blogger Warunicorn October 03, 2019 12:49 PM  

I keep trying to figure out why people like SullyRob do this when it's definitely not wanted or warranted. That's not cool, mensch.

Back OT: When I went for my interview to get my concealed carry permit at my local police station, they let me into their administrative area with a carrying case. No search or going through a metal detector or anything. (The only things in the carrying case were my required documents and my Kobo e-reader.) Granted, I was dressed professionally and the interviewing officer screened my credentials before letting me in, but still I found it odd they would be so lax. I could have carried anything into that area.

(What was also hilarious was that someone out in the lobby asked me if I was a lawyer.) xD

Blogger A rebel without a General October 03, 2019 12:49 PM  

Vox how could he be an omega he had a wife?

Blogger basementhomebrewer October 03, 2019 12:50 PM  

Secret king has to turn an omega thread into a conversation about gammas.

Blogger VFM #7634 October 03, 2019 12:52 PM  

Joking aside, I thought Omegas were passive. Isn't the stapler guy in "Office Space" a Gamma?

@Up from the pond
No, Omegas aren't always passive. Milton was pushed around for a long time because he WAS too passive.

The Gamma in Office Space? Bill Lumbergh. 100%.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine October 03, 2019 12:54 PM  

Maybe we should invest in aiming omegas at gammas.

Blogger Dave Dave October 03, 2019 12:58 PM  

Haha look at this sissy bitch exposing his gamma. Mods will delete and we'll forget about him in 5 minutes. No wonder he's single.

Blogger NewTunesForOldLogos October 03, 2019 1:00 PM  

Make discrimination great again!

Blogger John Best. October 03, 2019 1:01 PM  

@46. Grapefruit spoon, now that's a good idea. Omega rage is scary, but it comes from the anger melting a hole in the fear ice and mixing with the sea of sadness, creating a reaction leading to an explosion. So the Omega will feel much better after doing that attack, he will have cleared out his fear and blown away his sadness. He likely won't remember what he did, but will feel much better emotionally. It was his last natural reaction to the cycle of sadness he couldn't break out of.

Blogger Mathieu October 03, 2019 1:10 PM  

He rencently converted to islam, the peace bringer.

Blogger widlast washere October 03, 2019 1:16 PM  

Sillyrob, pedo or not, you are definitely a childish irritant. Go peddle your petulance to someone who would give a shit.

Blogger VD October 03, 2019 1:16 PM  

Vox how could he be an omega he had a wife?

Maybe it was a Gamma meltdown. Certainly a mere reference to him appears to have triggered at least one Gamma.

It's amusing that a Gamma should be surprised that I ignore him. If I was elected Emperor, they'd all be euthanized. I don't want to talk to Gammas. I don't want them to even be permitted residence on the same planet.

Blogger Doktor Jeep October 03, 2019 1:23 PM  

Very possibly an omega. There's indication that he thought-ahead. Ceramic knife that would be hard to detect in a metal detector. And the death toll. The average person or even a criminal with a knife is very unskilled with it. At arm's length a knife is just as deadly as a handgun but requires more knowledge as to where the blade has to go. A severed leg artery, for example, will bleed a person out in 90 seconds.

Elliot Rodgers killed 3 people with a knife but oh we only got more gun laws from that and no changes to society, the mental health system, culture, etc.

Further regarding Omegas and violence, one way to expect something to happen - a murder being the most extreme but there are numerous less newsworthy things to consider - is when you have a gamma put in charge of an omega or some arrangement like that. Real leaders, and the men they delegate to, know enough not to torment people. If they can't do the job, fire them, or wait until a round of layoffs, or some other means maybe find something they can do if they know how to operate well enough in the organization to retain.

But what does a gamma do? I think we all know the answer to that.
And if the organization is run by gammas, or infested with them such that they cannot be gotten rid of, things can get horribly toxic.
What two organizations in which we have seen remarkable violence? Schools often inhabited by kids who have no choice and government offices where it's next to impossible to fire people.
This, by the way, is my defense of omegas as notably we don't see as much violence outside of such workplaces. So getting rid of gammas keeps the omegas from going postal, so to speak. Getting rid of both and it's rainbows and unicorns.


Here's a story: In the late 1990s I watched people single out one coworker for ridicule, rumors, and general degrading. It was a Cuban guy with a master degree in math. Nice fellow actually. I tried to tip him off. Looking back I think he had sigma qualities because he didn't care and just started looking for a better job. After seeing what they did to him, I waited for my lease on the apartment to run out and quit that job - and also left that town too because it seemed that everybody was a dick. Heck when I was looking for new work later they gave me bad references for no reason.

Now, if that fellow had been an omega and thought, real or perceived, to be at the end of his rope, and shot the place up, would the survivors be saying, in front of the cameras, "Oh yeah that was the guy we singled out for ridicule for no reason. Tee hee"?
No. They all say the same thing: "He was so quiet".

Most omegas just leave as the statistics show. Because there's still some morality. Throw in some antidepressants and a situation of no escape maybe - like can't get a job outside of that field, can't move, etc. - and you get another story.

But I would agree that an omega can be very dangerous because they put thought into even murderous rage. A gamma might have gotten caught trying to smuggle the weapon in because "acting out" tends to be impulse and short rage. If there were metal detectors, a ceramic knife could get through.

A day of the rope may be coming for Omegas anyway. With "incel" being the new Taliban, and "incel" and omega starting to be compared as meaning the same thing, it's not looking good. And the system has incentive: the old saying goes: "Get to the children and you get to the women, then you get to the men".
But men who have no children and/or women in their lives are a liability. They don't have "think of the kids!" moments when the prospect of throwing down against the state comes up. They don't have women in their lives giving them the "c'mon honey just drop it and move on" speeches. If Omegas were more organized, played less vidya, and had more God in their lives, they would be quite a formidable element.


Blogger Doktor Jeep October 03, 2019 1:28 PM  

@49
Omegas DO get married. The quality of said marriage is what's questionable. I would wager from experience and observation that omegas tend to attract - or be that only sucker around who ignores all those red flags out of loneliness - dark triad women or women with problems of their own.

I'd also wager that omegas get more sex than gammas. Heck even I managed to get laid once in a while. Soap helps.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan October 03, 2019 1:55 PM  

I read that DM article and I thought what a joke, then I realized that the Brits still loathe the French. Propaganda like the DM just posted is what drives 4G conflict, because how can you respect a state like that?

Blogger luisonmcbiel October 03, 2019 2:02 PM  

So he was black. I wonder why the media does not report that more directly. Prayers towards the victims and their families.

Blogger Shimshon October 03, 2019 2:20 PM  

I know an Omega from my 1980s college days. Even the gammas didn't like him. And he absolutely creeped out the women in the group.

He did marry in the oughts, so some very obese woman. He too, was moderately paunchy in college, had completely larded out by then too. He actually looks like the guy in Office Space. He did go into the military after college. That probably took him over the top in being able to land someone, even if she was a whale.

Blogger Phelps October 03, 2019 2:22 PM  

"Okay. Well, that's the last straw."

-- Milton

Blogger Capital6 October 03, 2019 2:30 PM  

If it isn't in intensity it's in duration.

You're right, the rage develops in a churning maelstrom of sorrow, betrayal, realization, fear, anger, et al. until it releases and scorches the world with its fury.

Unfortunately, the rage stems from the deepest places within the Omega, areas shrouded in a thick, obscuring miasma, of which he may be unaware. Then, a bright ray of truth cuts into the miasma and kindles a spark. Eventually, an inferno to immolate the world. Since the Omega has to plumb his unfathomable depths it's more complex to solve.

Blogger Up from the pond October 03, 2019 2:46 PM  

@39

Yeah, I think Vox was right, the shooter is likely Omega. Your comment clarified something for me about the fractal nature of the SSH. From Milton's perspective, Bill Lumbergh is an Alpha. So Milton says Gamma things when frustrated by him. "I'll burn this place down if I don't get attention. What about justice regarding my stapler" etc. But objectively, or from a third-person perspective, Milton is clearly Omega and Lumbergh is clearly Gamma.

So there's the objective situation and then there's the perspective of the people involved, which can be mistaken.

Blogger Silent Draco October 03, 2019 2:47 PM  

Ye cats. Worked with an Omega of similar nature for about 15 years. Bright but with health issues; had a few rescues while waiting for the EMTs to arrive. I was humane, and he attached to me and a couple others like a limpet.

Our management was definitely Gamma with extra Gimmee, and the Omega kept getting handed off. We kept an eye on the emergency exits just in case, had his cube placed so it didn't affect egress. He retired on short notice, taking a burden off us, and fear of someone snapping dropped.

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Blogger Doktor Jeep October 03, 2019 3:13 PM  

I just realized that I have a red Swingline stapler on my desk. There was no such model before Office Space. After that there was a demand so they made some. It's model 747xx.
Yes I have a crowded cubicle. Yes others who have seen the film have walked in, said "there it is" and taken it.
But here is the punchline. I said the same thing when I stole it from another Omega 7 years ago. Only I forgot to return it.

Blogger Up from the pond October 03, 2019 3:23 PM  

Silent Draco wrote:e kept an eye on the emergency exits just in case, had his cube placed so it didn't affect egress.

Bad memories stirred. I was a newly hired account manager at Caterpillar Financial years ago and when a particular manager called in sick one day all the other managers took the opportunity to show me their hiding places for in case this guy went nuts. Two gals had separate spaces under their metal desks dedicated to hiding from bullets; one dude had made sure about the egress, just like in your comment. Thought they were making an elaborate joke to haze me but it gradually penetrated my skull that they were serious and that everyone new got "the talk" about this guy. What triggered them most was his handing out pamphlets at work advocating the armed overthrow of the government, among other things, like eating sloppy tacos at his desk every day and sporting taco sauce on his shirt and tie without bothering to wipe it off.

Blogger sammibandit October 03, 2019 3:34 PM  

I have a red Swingline but my whole desk area is black. Contrast helps locate it in a pinch, which is always when I need it.

I had one delta colleague who slid to gamma-omega when his mom won the lotto. Lots of stress for him. He ended up quitting and threatening to bomb the office. I didn't think it was a credible threat but we still contracted a police officer to guard the main entrance for a week.

Blogger Raker_T October 03, 2019 3:39 PM  

About this paper as tool thing; I think it has potential. I work with my hands A LOT; and while I'm no pro wood worker, I'm around it more than most people. I used to think that wood tool handle making was best left to the pros, as in just buy it at the store. Then I saw a YT video from a guy saying he has sledge hammer handles he made still in use after decades. It being that I live in a hardwood forest with at least 150 kinds of trees, I was curious. I followed the guy's instruction, and it worked. The biggest trick is knowing what you're looking at in terms of wood grain. It also helps to have experience with different kinds of wood, in regards to what is harder, and more likely to stay pointy. So while it seems like wood would (couldn't help it :) be better, you would need to select it carefully.
I'll spare you my speculation as to what would work in wood; but take another look at the book thing. Paper has lots of fiber in it, some observably has more. Granted, the fibers aren't as strong as glass strands, or Kevlar, but the pages are thin, which would allow more careful application of resin or glue to each sheet. When you go to support something with boards, two 2 X 4's are stronger than one 4 X 4. So all those fibers closely laid together has potential; enough to make me want to try it. Now if there was a way to treat the edge after shaping, that would be even better. I don't have a knife blade in mind, but something like a bracket or support. Man, you could make a pretty nifty tool scabbard. Lacquer it afterwards, maybe gold trim? Hmmm . . .

Blogger Matamoros October 03, 2019 4:03 PM  

A recent moslem convert.

Blogger Statix October 03, 2019 4:22 PM  

What race was this "French" man?

Blogger Damelon Brinn October 03, 2019 4:23 PM  

He must have had a knife loicense. Good thing he didn't have a spoon too, he might have wiped out the whole precinct.

Blogger ar10308 October 03, 2019 4:37 PM  

The paper knife would work pretty well if you choose the right adhesive.
The size of the fibers in the paper would allow you to create a much sharper blade than almost any wood. The smaller the fibers, the sharper you'll be able to get a somewhat reliable blade.

Blogger Lovekraft October 03, 2019 4:52 PM  

So does France cuck and modify their female employee attire to conform to Islamic demands? Guess we'll see. Usually that is how this works: jihad freaks out and the west wrings their hands in self-pity

Blogger map October 03, 2019 5:03 PM  

Nobody remembers "Office Space?"

Milton was a heavily put-upon character. Beyond the indignity of the stapler, management tried to get rid of him by first moving him to the basement and then they tried not paying him. The consultants were joking that such passive-aggressive behavior would just sort the matter out.

In the end, Milton burned down the company and stole the money that the computer nerds tried to return to the firm.

He then threatened to burn down the hotel because the waiters would ignore him.

Blogger Raker_T October 03, 2019 5:07 PM  

"The smaller the fibers, the sharper you'll be able to get a somewhat reliable blade."
Sounds consistent with a what I read about early Damascus steel blades. The interwoven steel with softer iron made for a microscopic saw blade because the iron was removed more than the steel, creating the toothed edge.

Blogger sammibandit October 03, 2019 5:38 PM  

I forget what it's called but there's a tool that artists who work with charcoal use to smudge and blend. It's shaped like a pencil and is made of wrapped and compressed paper. It comes new sharpened to a point. Weren't allowed them in high school.

If you've ever cut yourself on corrugated cardboard, which I don't recommend at all for how long it takes to heal and how embarrassing it is, you know paper properly formed can cut the flesh more than a papercut.

Blogger Doktor Jeep October 03, 2019 5:45 PM  

Milton from Office Space is a comical and somewhat good representation of an Omega.
But the absolute best fictional but deadly serious accurate depiction of an Omega comes on a film called "Ghost World". The characters name is Seymour. I'm practically Seymour but like to think I look better than the actor who played him. And yes what happens to Seymour so far as getting laid, and the circumstances around it and after, is exactly the piss-world stuff that happens to an Omega. Seymour makes the mistake of not having an emotional detachment frame and bad things happen.

Blogger VFM #7634 October 03, 2019 6:46 PM  

@Doktor Jeep

Never heard of Seymour, but Frankenstein's Monster is a good classic Omega.

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Blogger Ty Richards October 03, 2019 7:01 PM  

Police can’t protect you. They can’t even protect themselves.

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Blogger Azimus October 03, 2019 8:27 PM  

VD:
I would euthanize the gammas


Come now, why waste so much effort? Just let nature do the heavy lifting and put them all in the Thunderdome.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash October 03, 2019 8:28 PM  

Crap. I repeated my post.
There's a delete button right there.

Blogger map October 03, 2019 10:25 PM  

Snidely,

Thanks for the tip.

My brave browser does not display a delete button.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash October 04, 2019 1:17 AM  

It's the trash can icon next to the date and time of your comment. This is posted from Brave and it's right there.

Blogger Purge187 October 04, 2019 10:17 AM  

Sources have said he converted to the Religion of Pieces at one point.

Blogger Dr Caveman October 04, 2019 3:41 PM  

One day after the attack, the 'psychotic episode/work-related conflict' has crumbled to the point where the anti-terrorism unit is now investigating the murders

Blogger Obama's boyfriend October 04, 2019 4:41 PM  

The French are doomed.

The workplace dispute-the deaf one's refusal to work with or shake hands with women since his conversion to Islam!


Oops these were not ordinary police, they were terrorist police in charge of guess who-those who contribute to the diversity of France-so you guessed it Islamic types know what French intelligence knows.

It gets worse.
The knife attack. You don't get knifes through high security installations, they have metal detectors for that.

-But it was a ceramic knife-right kiddies-but such knifes have metal in the handle to allow them to be detected.

Hence the jihadie removed the metal in a carefully planned attack to avoid detection. So the French have no idea of the motive?

Who do they think they are, the FBI or CIA?

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