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Tuesday, October 29, 2019

You know Star Wars is dead

When even the guys who managed to ruin A Game of Thrones in the final season are walking away from the Devil Mouse and Star Wars in favor of riding a debt-laden Netflix down into the ground:
David Benioff and D.B. Weiss, the duo who in 2011 launched the singular screen sensation known as Game of Thrones, have walked away from their much-publicized deal with Disney’s Lucasfilm to launch a feature film trilogy in 2022. Benioff and Weiss were supposed to usher in the post-Skywalkera era of the Star Wars brand with a 2022 new-start story that would stake out a new frontier for the era-defining cinema brand created by George Lucas. 
Think about how much damage the Devil Mouse has done to the Star Wars brand in just a few short years. It's really astonishing to observe the extent to which the corporate cancer of social justice convergence destroys the value of even the most marketable brands.

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Blogger Macs October 29, 2019 6:58 AM  

I was looking forward to new storylines like these, a long time ago, in a mindset that is far away...

Blogger Lazarus October 29, 2019 7:16 AM  

When Stars Wars emerged 42 years ago, I remember the pre-release hype as being the longest campaign I had ever seen up to that point. It felt like it went on for most of a year.

Decadence.

Blogger Steb October 29, 2019 7:17 AM  

People were putting Jedi as their religion on the last census, and now Disney can't give away tickets to their brand new Star Wars theme park.

Why? Because people who had no idea what the appeal was were allowed to try 'expanding' it.

Blogger Azimus October 29, 2019 7:20 AM  

Lucas, at least, understood the power of making each film into an event. The storyline gatling gun of disney takes all the "this is a big deal" out of it... I'm 3 movies behind and don't intend to catch up because... what am i missing? It wasn't til recently I found out "The Mandelorian" wasn't fan-fiction... nobody wanted the origins story of lieutenant checkhov in the atar trek world, who wants to know about how boba fett got his start or whoever this guy is if he isn't boba fett. Probably a chick now that I think about it...

Blogger tantonj October 29, 2019 7:40 AM  

Devil Mouse is clearly making Star Wars less and less appealing when it comes to movies (and TV shows?). I wonder about the toys/merch though. Wouldn't surprise me if that's only grown under 😈 🐁. Who knows, maybe garbage Star Wars movies will be propped up by toy sales, just like YouTube is propped up by Google.

However, I guess that would also fall once the brand is fully ruined.

Blogger CarpeOro October 29, 2019 7:43 AM  

Lucas built the story based on concepts from the old serials. Disney chucked it aside in favor of grrrrlll power and their shocked they killed most of the momentum they had. If they had stuck to Lucas style I would have watched the third trilogy. As it is, I watched Xwing or something and was as thrilled as watching any generic sci-fi B movie. Didn't feel much connection to the canned characters.

Blogger [Redacted] October 29, 2019 7:50 AM  

The fallout from unwanted Star Wars toys and merch has already caused the bankruptcy of a toy store franchise. It is well documented. Stores were full of unsold inventory for three years. Star Wars is losing money for most of the people involved, and Devil Mouse has been cooking the books on at least half a dozen ventures to hide it.

Blogger Eincrou October 29, 2019 7:52 AM  

To me, the strangest thing about the decline of Star Wars during the Disney era is that the complete cinematic failure of The Last Jedi wasn't even directly Disney's doing.

They brought in a loser, Rian Johnson, to both write and direct it. And when it became clear that he wanted to "subvert expectations" by turning Luke Skywalker into a loser just like him, Disney allowed him the creative license to do it.

Disney, had they been responsible stewards of the Star Wars mythos, should have blocked this outrageous change to one of the most iconic film heroes of the modern era. But unlike the stereotype of the overbearing corporate overlord, they allowed the eccentric artist the opportunity to do his art - even though potentially billions of dollars were on the line.

His nasty art, founded in subversion and inversion and corruption and filth, resulted in the next Star Wars film, Solo, becoming the first film in the franchise to be a commercial failure.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan October 29, 2019 7:58 AM  

Hard to imagine that an aging sorority chick who staffs her management team with sorority chicks and hires what amounts to are effeminate homos or men predisposed to suffering those kinds of antics could screw up legacy like SW.

NOT.

Blogger Desdichado October 29, 2019 7:58 AM  

It could be either way, though. Disney, even if they fail to admit it publicly, are reported to be panicking about the performance of the Star Wars brand, and I doubt tying it to another team that's getting just as much flack and backlash from the fans is something that they'd be highly inclined to do.

Then again, they did bring Jar Jar Abrams back, but from their perspective, he's probably golden, and they can't see what every normal person does.

Blogger bodenlose Schweinerei October 29, 2019 8:00 AM  

@7 - How can that be, it's such a great "brand"? Maybe they just need to spend more millions on marketing and more time on Twitter attempting to shame and browbeat the "brand's" fans.

Disney, had they been responsible stewards of the Star Wars mythos, should have blocked this outrageous change to one of the most iconic film heroes of the modern era.

Don't you get it yet? Disney wanted this change, that's why they hired the jagoff in the first place, and why they handed the franchise over to that talentless ideologue Kathleen Kennedy.

Blogger FUBARwest October 29, 2019 8:07 AM  

"To me, the strangest thing about the decline of Star Wars during the Disney era is that the complete cinematic failure of The Last Jedi wasn't even directly Disney's doing.

They brought in a loser, Rian Johnson, to both write and direct it. And when it became clear that he wanted to "subvert expectations" by turning Luke Skywalker into a loser just like him, Disney allowed him the creative license to do it."

This is where Vox's next book will be extremely helpful. If you believe JJ(which you shouldn't) Rian Johnson did not deviate from the plan Kathleen Kennedy had in mind before they started TFA. The issue isn't Rian, despite how bad he is. The issue was George Lucas putting an SJW like Kathleen Kennedy in charge of his company as a condition to selling to the devil mouse in order to have some say in decisions post sale. That obviously didn't work.

Rumors are KK has a grudge against Luke Skywalker and what he represents. It's kind of sad that Lucas didn't realize the person he put in charge hated his creation but we all make mistakes.

Blogger Krymneth October 29, 2019 8:26 AM  

Disney wanted this change, but they didn't want this result.

The leadership or their masters may be happy with the result, but Disney as a whole can't be.

One of the things to remember us that leftism has the problem that it is being run by second-/third-generation people who actually believe the lies and get high on their own supply, instead of understanding the tactical and strategic goals of the lies. I'm sure a lot of Disney honestly believed that the movies they made would be wildly more successful that the originals, because diversity would bring in even more people, etc.

One thing you can count on the People of the Lie to do is learn the wrong lesson and double down on the evil. I'm perversely curious what comes next, though I plan on observing from a distance and without giving them any of my money.

Blogger Kaiser vonnova October 29, 2019 8:43 AM  

This is not incompetence. It`s an FU to whites. (((DISNEY))) is deliberately destroying anything that inspires us. They have unlimited resources. Each media entity that becomes innefectual is simply discarded and replaced with something new suddenly has unlimited resources. Disney and netflix will be replaced with a greater evil.

Blogger Cataline Sergius October 29, 2019 8:45 AM  

This is the biggest indication so far that the projected numbers for The Rise of Skywalker have to be terrifying.

I can't blame them for walking away from what has to be the biggest quick sand swamp in film history. After this flops Kathleen Kennedy is going to be shot. And then they have to hope their project survives the regime change at Lucasfilm.

This is getting on sinking ship and the owner of the line is trying to find a new captain.

It feels like we are playing Fortnite.

You know what I’m talking about, right? That moment in Fortnite where you know, you’ve been killed. You’ve taken fatal damage and the rest of your team is dead, so no one can revive you. But you are still crawling around on the ground waiting for the clock to run out.

That's what waiting for the release of Skywalker feels like.




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Blogger Sillon October 29, 2019 8:50 AM  

@12 KK was great blowing off steam, and like any good strong and independent whamen who whores her way to riches she holds grudges.

I'm not the first one to point that the mary-sue character of Rey in modern Starwars is KK's own self image.

Just google pictures of the woman, she's as narcissistic as SJW can get.

Blogger furor kek tonicus ( no need to be racist, Ratchets can Karen better than anybody ) October 29, 2019 8:53 AM  

man, i remember when TFA came out and various Ilk were trying to tell me that it was pretty good.

even i never expected it to go THIS sideways.

Blogger Sillon October 29, 2019 8:55 AM  

@15

"Rise of the morons" is going to be such a huge "meh", so loaded with stupidity I'm really excited.

For real, think of all the endless stream of videos the E;R, Mauler, WCB, Nerdrotic, Critical Drinker, etc will be able to produce... Months of fun!

Starwars was the original trilogy (and some moments of the precuels), modern starwars is the tribe's attempt to monetize what they don't understand (Goyim's artistic creativity).

Blogger Newscaper312 October 29, 2019 8:55 AM  

What surprised me was how many people didnt wake up to the SJW damage, sabotage until TLJ.
I enjoyed Force Awakens pretty well in the theater for nostalgia in spite of some obvious lameness, but it really fell flat when I rewatched when it came out on digital.
Both the Grrrl Power and tearing down men were already manifest. Mary Sue was painfully obvious, Kylo Ren a lame villain, but the biggest thing was they made both Han and Luke losers who ran away for decades when things got tough again... Of course while Leia stayed and held down the fort. The poison was there in the first movie and no one should have been surprised by the second.
For the record I have never seen more than about 15 min of TLJ.

Blogger Sillon October 29, 2019 8:57 AM  

@17, It is the "novelty" factor I suppose, I had the same reaction with "The phantom menace" came out of the cinema really excited and happy, with the feeling of having seen something amazing.

Went in for a second viewing and I remember thinking: "What the heck is this, how did I like it the first time?"

Blogger Scott October 29, 2019 9:01 AM  

I prefer Machete Order over the Original Trilogy. It takes episode 6 from a 7/10 to a 9/10 and a worthy ending.

Blogger Brett baker October 29, 2019 9:04 AM  

Oh I think they'll keep the series going until they have Rise of the Pedo, unfortunately.

Blogger Andy Evick October 29, 2019 9:10 AM  

In defense of Rian Johnson, I thought Brick was a really good movie.

Blogger Damelon Brinn October 29, 2019 9:14 AM  

I thought they would shut down some of the glut of movies they had planned. I didn't think they'd let the talent get ahead of them and play "You can't fire me, I quit" on them. Makes Disney look weaker than ever.

Blogger Oswald October 29, 2019 9:17 AM  

At least Disney is destroying Star Wars without recasting the original characters as homos and transgender people. Or is that next: The remake of episode IV?

Blogger VD October 29, 2019 9:21 AM  

Or is that next: The remake of episode IV?

They're going to do an all-black remake called Shizzy Wizzy: Tha New Dope.

Blogger David Ray Milton October 29, 2019 9:26 AM  

Interesting that Devil Mouse chose Benioff and Weiss. Makes sense that they were planning on having Jedi brothel scenes. Disney will probably start recruiting the duo’s creative replacements from the studios of Brazzers.

Blogger Sargent.matrim October 29, 2019 9:50 AM  

Star Wars is dead. Bring on the new, forget the old. Only smart line in the whole TLJ movie.

Blogger Ransom Smith October 29, 2019 9:51 AM  

Disney honestly didn't understand that recycling material is a had idea.
They've successfully gotten away with it for decades and assumed the same formula would always work.

Blogger dvdivx October 29, 2019 9:54 AM  

The plus side is people bitched about the prequels being bad had no idea just how bad it could get. Disney made even Lucas's awful romance dialogue and jar jar Binks look amazing by comparison.

Blogger The Masked Menace October 29, 2019 10:01 AM  

I never liked Star Wars.

I can't explain it despite all its popularity. I had the exact same feelings towards the television show M*A*S*H.

Anyone else experience the same thing?

Blogger VFM Bear October 29, 2019 10:05 AM  

As someone who watched the original in theaters as a five-year old and for whom Star wars was a life-shaping event, I have to say that Lucas' prequels killed my interest in the franchise long before devil mouse got their grubby little paws on it.

Blogger urthshu October 29, 2019 10:10 AM  

Anyone else experience the same thing?

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Yes. I saw it when it first came out and never understood what the big deal was.

Blogger Johnny October 29, 2019 10:12 AM  

Must be a creative control thing with the Game of Thrones guys, because otherwise surely they would want to dip into that pile of money that Disney has.

As for liking Star Wars, I thought the original was great, but mainly a sound and light show. What reviewers sometimes call a popcorn movie.

Blogger El Fin October 29, 2019 10:20 AM  

Iger won’t have to look far to find another not American to tikkun olam the galaxy. It’s not like in that community, Benioff and Weiss have a monopoly on rape and incest. C3PO could transition into a real gay human and Chewbacca can now date the pink haired white women. At this rate - unauthorized might have an opening in the epic sci-fi film space.

Blogger Ora Tevzre October 29, 2019 10:25 AM  

"Luke, I identify as your Father" - Nooooooooo….

Blogger swiftfoxmark2 October 29, 2019 10:36 AM  

The Disneyland Star Wars park isn't doing well either, from what I've heard. Jay Dyer visited it recently and said it was all underwhelming, when he expected it to be full on Westworld-style fantasy escapism.

Disney used to be really good at managing theme parks. Now they can't even get that right.

Blogger OneWingedShark October 29, 2019 10:41 AM  

bodenlose Schweinerei wrote:Disney, had they been responsible stewards of the Star Wars mythos, should have blocked this outrageous change to one of the most iconic film heroes of the modern era.

Don't you get it yet? Disney wanted this change, that's why they hired the jagoff in the first place, and why they handed the franchise over to that talentless ideologue Kathleen Kennedy.

This is absolutely true. They let the mask slip a bit when the line "Let the past die, kill it if you have to" got to the screen: Disney is fully on-board with this as they are champions in the culture-war on the side wishing to destroy traditional American culture.

As noted above, Star Wars had roots and inspiration from the old Sci-Fi serials like Flash Gordon and Buck Rogers — the prequels got a lot of flak from fans precisely because Lucas strayed away from those elements (Phantom Menace, in particular) which shifted toward the political… which could have worked even with the old-style Sci-Fi.

Kaiser vonnova wrote:This is not incompetence. It`s an FU to whites. (((DISNEY))) is deliberately destroying anything that inspires us. They have unlimited resources. Each media entity that becomes innefectual is simply discarded and replaced with something new suddenly has unlimited resources. Disney and netflix will be replaced with a greater evil.
I've noticed that there is an ongoing effort, a campaign, to destroy everything that is culturally a "rallying point" — everything from modern mythos (comics to books to movies) to games to tradition/culture like gun-clubs/militia and churches — as if the people driving it wish us to be rootless.

Sillon wrote:For real, think of all the endless stream of videos the E;R, Mauler, WCB, Nerdrotic, Critical Drinker, etc will be able to produce… Months of fun!
That's the real economy that's going to be stimulated: their talking about (read "ripping apart") Rise of Skywalker is going to be infinitely more enjoyable than the film itself… and, honestly, I kinda hope that it loses Disney a Billion dollars.

Oswald wrote:Or is that next: The remake of episode IV?
What do you think The Force Awakens was? It wasn't a "rhyming in story" it was a remake/reboot disguised as a sequel.

Blogger Oswald October 29, 2019 10:44 AM  

I'd call The Force Awakens as a cheap rip off, but not yet a perversion.

Blogger Newscaper312 October 29, 2019 10:46 AM  

@20 Sillon
I remember how stoked I was seeing the original TPM trailer that edited out all the painful silliness and felt somewhat more adult. Talk about monumental bait and switch.

Blogger Dirtnapninja October 29, 2019 10:50 AM  

The new movies needed three things

1) For fans to see the old stars get back together
2) To see that their sacrifices mattered
3) To see Luke kick ass.

TBH they should not have created the new movies as sequels to the original saga. The story of Skywalker was complete. It can be continued in semi-canonical novels and comics.The new movies should have explored the origins of the current Jedi and Sith. They should have been written by fans, for fans using the basic principles of the original.

Blogger Newscaper312 October 29, 2019 10:51 AM  

Once again, Han and Luke were ALREADY portrayed as losers in The Force Awakens.

Blogger ar10308 October 29, 2019 10:52 AM  

One of the main theorized reasons behind the "Kill The Past" aspect of the new film is that it is alleged that George Lucas still owns the rights to his characters. So he gets a check any time they are used. So Disney killing them off is how they trying to avoid paying George.

The 2nd trailer for The Mandalorian dropped last night and it looks actually decent. Given that John Favreau is Directing it, it should be handled much more competently than any of the new trilogy movies.

That Disney has destroyed Star Wars to this extent is gobsmacking. They needed to put out passable, non-offensive movies and they would have done great. It's not like they needed masterpieces directed by Christopher Nolan. But they couldn't even put out a middle of the road movie, they had to have a Gamma meltdown in cinematic form.

Blogger Deus Vult October 29, 2019 10:53 AM  

Disney isn't making a mistake. They are purposefully destroying something loved by men. In the midst of programming the next generation of young minds Disney executives take a quick break to crush a father's childhood obsession, wring their hands with glee exclaiming "Good! Let the hate flow through you".

Blogger Oswald October 29, 2019 10:54 AM  

It was suppose to take place a long time ago in a far far away galaxy. Lot of room to maneuver. Why not do something brave and just advance another thousand years with all new characters and no old ones?

Blogger Johnny October 29, 2019 10:56 AM  

— as if the people driving it wish us to be rootless.

What they want is to be the author of the new society they will create, and along the way they have to tear down the old. Unfortunately they are way better at tearing down then building. Their new society is nothing but a dysfunctional ego trip for the creators. Can't say I am all that religious, but it reminds me of the false prophets prediction that, "by their fruits you shall know them."

Blogger Amy October 29, 2019 11:18 AM  


It was suppose to take place a long time ago in a far far away galaxy. Lot of room to maneuver. Why not do something brave and just advance another thousand years with all new characters and no old ones?


Excellent point.

Something along the lines of The Rebels Won, and ushered in a new era of expansion, trade, and only occasionally interrupted peace, and surrounding galaxies wanted a piece of the pie and sent their tired and poor and restless refuse, so as to occupy prosperity, until a whole new war has to be fought...

Lucas ruined StarWars with his 90s era edits of the classic theatrical releases. I had my VHS tapes of the original theatrical releases ripped to DVD. I cringe every time I see the party at Jabbas or the ending celebration scenes in the “improvamented” versions.

Blogger Barbarossa October 29, 2019 11:20 AM  

@31 I can second your feelings on M*A*S*H...and Seinfeld. I like to delude myself into thinking I have a good sense of humor, but I never found either show the least bit amusing.

As for Star Wars, I must admit that the first time I saw the original (probably almost a year after it opened, back when movies actually stuck around the theater for a spell) I was simply amazed by the brilliance of the special effects...and absolutely amazed at how awful the story line and acting were. My friends and I would actually take turns doing mock Captain Kirk and Luke Skywalker wooden lines. "My God...Spock!" "I care." Anyway, still liked it enough to enjoy ESB but was completely done with the series after Return of the Stuffed Merchandise Tie-In Bears. As for the rest of the SW movies, in the immortal words of Admiral Ackbar..."It's a trap!"

Blogger Careless Whisper October 29, 2019 11:30 AM  

Who else looks at all the boneheaded, money hemorrhaging moves Disney makes and wonders whether this is some kind of Producers-type strategy for hiding embezzled cash?
"Oh those AWFUL RACISTS drove down our profits, stockholders, but being as we are Making a Difference we won't sweat it, will you...?"

It's stupid, but when you consider whay bad shape the upper-management class seems to be in, I wouldn't put it past them.

Blogger Angantyr October 29, 2019 12:28 PM  

"The plus side is people bitched about the prequels being bad had no idea just how bad it could get. Disney made even Lucas's awful romance dialogue and jar jar Binks look amazing by comparison."

I am one of those... Pro Tip: crow is best partaken of whilst it still be warm. Also, be sure to pluck the feathers prior to eating...

Blogger The Masked Menace October 29, 2019 12:33 PM  

@48
Thanks for reminding me about the show Seinfeld. I had the same feeling about that show too. The only episode I REALLY enjoyed was "The Jacket". :)


Blogger Newscaper312 October 29, 2019 12:58 PM  

@47 Amy

Sure, people love the story universe, but its still the characters that matter.

Regarding a better followup, there was already a whole stack of post Return of the Jedi Star Wars novels they called Expanded Universe that all hung together in one multi-decade giant continuity. As you might imagine, most of it was mediocre tie-ins at best, and it was getting bled dry, but of the carefully picked smallish subset I read some were actually quite good, introducing some great new characters that resonated. The overall setup was simply smarter too, in having a Republic that "won" an dominated the Galaxy, but a sizable rump of the Empire persisted for years in spite of the Emperors death.

Partly because of Disney greed, and partly the aging actors, ALL of that was officially shit-canned when Disney took over, instead of mining and modifying the good stuff.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash October 29, 2019 1:08 PM  

ar10308 wrote:So Disney killing them off is how they trying to avoid paying George.
And being tribal, Iger would rather lose a billion than have George Lucas make 200 million.

Blogger Fergus October 29, 2019 1:16 PM  

Star Wars IV was essentially a Japanese samurai film (the Hidden Fortress) and then developed to become a Japanese historical period samurai drama ie a jidaigeki. This certainly worked for 4,5, and 6. That idea was coupled with the nostalgia of serialized film and it was extremely popular even amidst some silliness with Ewoks.

However the prequel was nearly destroyed by the inclusion of Jar Jar Binks. It was so repugnant and ridiculous. Why do that after creating a mythos based on samurai dramas based on Ki (Chi) and Budo (the arts of war) and Bushido (truly the way of those who serve)?

Now what is being generated just provokes incredulity.

Blogger R Devere October 29, 2019 1:20 PM  

Problem was the evil Mouse Empire droids watched Mel Brooks "Spaceballs" BEFORE they watched the Lucas/Speilberg epic original.

They took Brooks' Yogurt message on the "secret of the Universe," to heart : MERCHANDIZING!!! Spaceballs, the toys, Spaceballs, the tee-shirts, Spaceballs, the toilet paper!

Blogger Fergus October 29, 2019 1:21 PM  

If you ever want an authentic historical peek into actual daimyo house codes (the samurai clan writings that influenced Bushido as far back as 1200 AD), then read Ideals of the Samurai by William Scott Wilson who translated them. Most everything else that is translated in English is written by hopeless fanboys or iconoclasts who loathe the samurai. Wilson translates the actual writings.

Blogger Damelon Brinn October 29, 2019 1:27 PM  

They brought in a loser, Rian Johnson, to both write and direct it. And when it became clear that he wanted to "subvert expectations" by turning Luke Skywalker into a loser just like him, Disney allowed him the creative license to do it.

Yes, it's been funny, because the thing everyone was worried about was that Disney would be too "corporate," that the movies would be carefully crafted by committee for marketing purpose, and as a result would be too safe and boring.

The Force Awakens was a bit that way. But with The Last Jedi they let a feminist and a weird nerd take it and do whatever the heck they wanted. No committee thinking except Kennedy's committee of chick writers working with Johnson. One more proof that ideology overrides profit with these people.

Blogger Damelon Brinn October 29, 2019 1:51 PM  

For real, think of all the endless stream of videos the E;R, Mauler,

I see that you too are a man of taste and culture. Some of the reviews are a silver lining, as Plinkett's were for the prequels. I'm just hoping Mauler can finish the series before I die.

Blogger Unknown October 29, 2019 1:55 PM  

Now that the Devil Mouse has purchased Fox Media, they are vaulting or limiting to Disney+ the whole catalog of Fox movies. They are trying to make it so as you have no option but to watch their crap.

Blogger Fergus October 29, 2019 2:17 PM  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4g8r0LhpMzk
Here is a side by side comparison of Star Wars versus The Hidden Fortress. There is literally zero feminism in Bushido though many samurai ladies were taught weaponry as teens.

To alter the source material in such radical ways is as abusive as taking the Watchmen graphic novel and creating the Wokemen tv series.

Blogger Newscaper312 October 29, 2019 2:23 PM  

@ 57 Damelon
TLJ was not a radical turn, rather just a doubling down or acceleration of tearign down the original [male] characters. They *already* made Han and Luke who ran away for decades, while cranking up the grrrl power w Mary Sue Rey and 'General' Leia staying true while the boys turned tail.

Blogger God Emperor Memes October 29, 2019 2:27 PM  

So you're telling us Luke never finds out who his father is?

Blogger Laramie Hirsch October 29, 2019 2:47 PM  

I get more enjoyment from critical reviews and outrage videos than I do the content itself. It all started for me with the Josh Trank version of Fantastic Four.

Blogger SemiSpook37 October 29, 2019 3:43 PM  

My only interest in the films now is just watching the inevitable train wreck they've become. The main problem in the prequels was the fact that Lucas had a yes man attached in Rick McCallum. If you ever watched the BTS doc they did during the filming of Phantom Menace, the fact that the ENTIRE TEAM had a literal WTF reaction to that initial cut made it clear that George needed a Gary Kurtz-like referee to keep things in check. The fact that Kurtz left after Empire is why some of the crap that got into ROTJ in the first place.

As for these films, I was willing to give Abrams a chance, but it was apparent that he was going a little too far in TFA, but at least it was mostly watchable. The fact that Mark Hamill told Rian Johnson he hated Luke's depiction in TLJ was a sign that something was off. I don't think I've ever willingly avoided a film like I did with TLJ. I did end up watching Solo, but honestly, Opie Cunningham was too safe of a choice, and mixed with a lot of the bad blood after TLJ, it was doomed out of the gate.

Oddly enough, it looks like the Star Wars franchise is about to meet the same fate as another Disney classic: Old Yeller. Just put it out of its misery already.

Blogger Greg Hunt October 29, 2019 4:22 PM  

"So you're telling us Luke never finds out who his father is?"

This is, in a single line, the sharpest critism of zog I have ever read. I'd shake your hand if I could.

Blogger Greg Hunt October 29, 2019 4:30 PM  

"I never liked Star Wars."

I don't know you, so I can't speak for you, but I've met a number of people who never had any interest in it. They all had a single point in common, that being an inability to abstract. If they couldn't relate themselves directly into the story, they couldn't follow the story. People they didnt know doing things they didn't understand meant it was totally unrelatable. Movies about girls in High School they relate to. Fantasy Space Opera with monsters and magic? Not even slightly.

Blogger Greg Hunt October 29, 2019 4:42 PM  

The TV commercials for the first Disney version showed a black stormtrooper whose strong morals led him to leave the bad guy Empire and become a good guy Rebel, and a girl Jedi who was a great warrior and leader. The FB discussions around it lambasted White Men for not wanting to watch a movie with a black stormtrooper and a girl jedi.

That alone was enough. I knew what was up with that single commercial. I've never seen any of these, and neither have my children.

The Beatles will die with the Boomers, a fact which they can neither acknowledge nor understand. Star Wars will die with GenX, a point which neither confuses nor disappoints us.

Blogger Dave Dave October 29, 2019 5:04 PM  

Star Wars went from a childhood pleasure with the first movies, to a guilt pleasure with the prequels, but now I don't like any of the movies and would be embarrassed if I did. It's off putting to see someone like Star Wars since Disney killed it.

Blogger matveidaniilovich October 29, 2019 5:26 PM  

Vox should intentionally write some Gamma sci fi to make some petty cash. That & i just want to see his take on things.

Blogger HouellebecqGurl October 29, 2019 5:39 PM  

Same. Saw the 1st one in the theater the week it opened. Walked out about 10 min before it ended and never knew how it ended until this new Disney owned series came out, because I didn't care.
Still don't.

Blogger HouellebecqGurl October 29, 2019 5:43 PM  

No perversion? That's the one that introduces the MaRey Sue homely chick and that who cares? negro,right?

Blogger MrNiceguy October 29, 2019 6:06 PM  

Which was too bad. Solo was actually decent; not as good as the original trilogy, but way better than ep. 1-3.

Blogger aps October 29, 2019 7:21 PM  

Shame. Benioff and Weiss are hacks. Modern Star Wars was a match made in heaven for them.

Blogger Azimus October 29, 2019 8:04 PM  

IMO the peak of the Lucas-built universe was TIE Fighter - that game was indescribably awesome. "Alpha 1, MISSION CRITICAL craft Under Attack!"

Blogger furor kek tonicus ( no need to be racist, Ratchets can Karen better than anybody ) October 29, 2019 8:43 PM  

39. Oswald October 29, 2019 10:44 AM
I'd call The Force Awakens as a cheap rip off, but not yet a perversion.



what do you think butthole eyes was?

it was Yoda, reimagined as a black woman. who doesn't actually train Rey in any way. and who also has no explanation as to why she should have ever been in possession of Luke's light saber.

and of course Rey is a transgendered Luke. same desert planet origin, greater aptitude for mechs and piloting ( because wahman ), also orphaned, gets attached to ( marketing ) droid at the beginning of the movie, etc.


Han got shit on and then murdered in the first movie. Luke did not ... because he wasn't in the first movie.

Leia ignored Chewie after Han's death and hugged Rey because ... Chewie is male and therefore not a real person with real feelings?

as i say, i wasn't going to throw Star Wars out after TFA. but the Woke was already in there.

then TLJ ramped all the Woke up to 11,000.

Blogger Smug Fence-Sitter October 29, 2019 9:19 PM  

I actually didn’t mind the end of GoT...

Jon realizes “bitches be crazy” yet again, and runs a knife through Dany’s heart rather than let her be ruler.

A bunch of people have a good chuckle at the idea of democracy, as proposed by the fat soy boy.

Brienne learns that the ugly girl doesn’t get the handsome jerk-boy.

Sansa gets told they’d rather have an literal autist male rule the kingdoms rather than her, and humbles herself by requesting the north stay in her rule.

...Apart from needless army size inconsistencies between episodes, I was fairly happy

Blogger Fergus October 29, 2019 9:22 PM  

The only honorable person deserving of the throne was Briene of Tarth making GoT woke fictional drivel. I'm surprised he didn't martyr her.

Anonymous Anonymous October 29, 2019 11:21 PM  

Don't care. Brand Zero!

Blogger God Emperor Memes October 30, 2019 3:36 AM  

Interesting. - Quite a number of Omani Arabs I know are like that: if it isn't "real", they can't enjoy it.

Blogger God Emperor Memes October 30, 2019 4:11 AM  

"Schrodinger's Sci Fi", in that Vox both could do it and couldn't do it.

Blogger tublecane October 30, 2019 8:04 AM  

@Smug Fence-sitter- People would be fine with Jaime leaving Brienne for any number of reasons. They weren't a couple, anyway. They were friends/comrades.

The problem was he went back to his sister, who was a borderline-personality case mass-murderering terrorist who just paid a guy to assassinate him.

Blogger BillHinDaytona October 30, 2019 8:19 AM  

Isn't there a shareholder derivative lawsuit here?

This is a known product with immense brand equity. They knew or should have known that subverting all expectations would result in loss of brand equity and box office receipts. Disney shareholders are worse off because of these intentional decisions to wreck the franchise.


Blogger tublecane October 30, 2019 8:25 AM  

As Benioff and Weiss' incompetence as showrunners and teleplaywrites gets more publicity, more creatures energe to gnaw on them.

Our old friend N.K. Jesimin had a tweet that caught my our eye on "what might have been" if someone else had adapted Rape Rape Martin's books for television. She writes like a journalist, in the Question-Question-Question-I don't know. And that's bad.- format. So perhaps she didn't write it. In any case, the point was let meritocracy rule, for da fans.

Since when do these people care about merit? When theoretical people possibly of color can replace white males. Hold on, however. D&D are not white. They're (((white))). Officially they're seen as white. And not merely white, but fratboy white. Thanks partly to all of Rape Rape Martin's rapes.

I don't know anything about Weiss. The alpha of the two is Benioff, and he's no ordinary parenthetical-American. His dad is a bankster. Goldman Sachs, NY Fed, CFR, the whole nine yards. No doubt some infernal gladhand network helped him get the job helming a big-budget HBO show with zero experience. Or perhaps more importantly, to stay on after screwing up bigly repeatedly.

Did his bankster immunity lose a few steps to his fratboy target status in the eyes of Diznee.

Blogger Angantyr October 30, 2019 10:59 AM  

IMO the peak of the Lucas-built universe was TIE Fighter - that game was indescribably awesome. "Alpha 1, MISSION CRITICAL craft Under Attack!"
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Yep. Lots of fun hunting down the Rebel insurgents and traitors with a TIE-D and ending their "insignificant rebellion".

Clearing minefields in an unshielded TIE Interceptor kinda sucked, though...

Blogger MrNiceguy October 30, 2019 11:22 AM  

At this point, devil mouse could probably recover some of their merchandising losses by selling The Last Jedi: The Toilet Paper

Blogger Fergus October 30, 2019 3:30 PM  

Instead of stealing from Akira Kurosawa's The Hidden Fortress, which was done shamelessly and without acknowledgement for over a decade (yet immediately intuited that this was the basis for Star Wars), how about making American art?

When Akira Kurosawa made Throne of Blood it was an anknowledged homage of Shakespeare's Macbeth.

Guess what? Tarantino pulled a George Lucas when he did the exact same theft by recreating Lady Snowblood by making Kill Bill.

Blogger Daniel October 30, 2019 8:48 PM  

Jar jar abrams stole the happily ever after.
He is the destroyer of the feanchise

Blogger Daniel October 30, 2019 8:52 PM  

They stole the happily ever after.
For nothing

Blogger Daniel October 30, 2019 8:56 PM  

GEM is the internet winner of the day

Blogger Fergus October 31, 2019 3:19 PM  

If you liked Star Wars 4, 5, and 6, you almost certainly would like chambara and jidaigeki films as the samurai and bushido and budo and ki are the basis for the jedi and the force.

The two best and most recent are After the Rain (which swept the awards) and Twilight Samurai which is often considered one the best films of all time. Seven Samurai is older but likewise is considered among the ten best films ever mad.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wE8QNT_vmvI

In my opinion, the Alt-Right nationalists are very much like the samurai or crusaders of old.

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