Saturday, November 23, 2019

A nonexistent invitation

Thomas Howard leaped to a completely erroneous conclusion subsequent to my invitation to Mr. Fuentes to debate a specific historical event of particular interest to him:
This must mean Nick the knife has finally and definitively turned down the "come join us at unauthorized tv" overtures. Considering his live viewership, nightly superchat support, and the fact he is taken as a serious threat by conservative Inc, this must be quite a blow to the ego. To the gamma, the sting of rejection is like the slow knife, the one that takes its time, which slips quietly between the bones, that's the knife that cuts the deepest.
Let me be perfectly clear about the relevant facts. Nick Fuentes was never invited to join Unauthorized.TV. Never. Out of about 85 established creators who have expressed varying degrees of interest in joining us at one time or another, precisely three have been invited to join UATV: Dr. Rachel Fulton Brown, Zammy the Giant Sheepadoodle, and Wranglerstar. All three accepted the invitation without hesitation.

I have spoken once to Mr. Fuentes, on May 8th, 2019, for about 20 minutes. We had a good and mutually respectful discussion, in which it soon became apparent to both of us that it did not make any sense for him to join Unauthorized, which is why he never asked to join it and I never invited him to do so. I further note that America First with Nicholas J. Fuentes has 68.9k YouTube subscribers, which is excellent considering that he had around 30k back in May when we spoke. That being said, by way of comparison, UATV's newest contributor, Wranglerstar, has 1.33M subscribers.

In summary, no one at Unauthorized cares even a fraction of an iota whether Mr. Fuentes wants to be on Unauthorized or not. We certainly wish Mr. Fuentes great success in his campaign against Conservatism Inc., but we neither need nor want him on our channel. Our egos, such as they are, remain intact and unaffected.

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Blogger Gregory the Tall November 23, 2019 8:05 AM  

Leaping to conclusions is always bad

Blogger Shane Bradman November 23, 2019 8:05 AM  

There is no problem with Nick Fuentes doing his own thing, just like there is no problem with Molyneux doing his own thing. Having one or several points that you agree upon is a fucking stupid reason to partner up with soemone.

Blogger Uncle John's Band November 23, 2019 8:08 AM  

"To the gamma, the sting of rejection is like the slow knife, the one that takes its time, which slips quietly between the bones, that's the knife that cuts the deepest."

The strange specificity and stench of projection suggests this comes from a deep well of experience. Gamma is the rare negative classification where losers like this are seem compelled to leap in as proof of concept.

Blogger Shane Bradman November 23, 2019 8:11 AM  

@3. And it has too many words in it. There are no bonus points for being verbose and nobody is impressed by it.

Blogger Uncle John's Band November 23, 2019 8:26 AM  

@4 Yup. They really seem to think it makes them look smart. And they wonder why people can detect them from a sentence.

Blogger anorganicbear November 23, 2019 8:30 AM  

@5 Then again, that it relatively intelligent compared to the typical GroyPC that just repeats an endless stream of "Boomer. Gay. Cringe."

Blogger Uncle John's Band November 23, 2019 8:35 AM  

@6 Sad but true. There are levels to this...

Blogger Rek. November 23, 2019 8:36 AM  

His wording/phrasing just sounds so gay to me and almost sexual.

Honestly since when does rejection feel like "the slow knife which slips quietly between the bones."

Plus the fact that no such rejection ever happens makes it even more disturbing. Is that dude actually all right in his head?

Blogger Player 2 November 23, 2019 8:47 AM  

I actually think Nick wanted to join Unauthorized, but his Mom told him he couldn't because it would keep him up past bedtime.

Blogger Avalanche November 23, 2019 8:50 AM  

I REALLY hope the Nick comes, respectful hat in hand, to learn from Vox Day, the Supreme Dark Lord of the Evil Legion of Evil, whose minions of all the various ranks and rates STAND on Vox's direction to do -- or not do -- his will. From the little I've seen and heard of Nick, he seems an intelligent, if immature, young fellow, riding "high" on the approbation of his followers and apparent victory in one small battle.

Filled with the "joy of battle" from some of his "soldiers" verbally smacking down essentially unarmed and unprepared "opponents" -- Charlie Kirk? really?! A silly little boy pretending to be some kind of a battle leader from *inside* his masters' castle walls, *guarded and protected* by his masters' actual soldiers; and with a secure room to run to off stage?! -- Nick has both allowed, and joined in, with what would be in 1st or 2nd generation warfare, the drunken victory dancing around a fire -- not noticing that the WAR. HAS. NOT. ENDED!

Any of the Nickers who read here might suggest to Nick he read William S. Lind's book and the excellent essay by Lind that Vox just linked to; and then act like a man, not a boy. If his feefees are SO hurt by Owen riding him -- and riding him hard -- that he cannot pick himself up and put out the fire(s) he started, then too-bad-so-sad for him. A battalion lost to piss-poor leadership.

Any of the Nickers who did drive Kirk and Trump-the-younger off the stage should also read Lind and keep up harrying the enemies! You don't need Nick to do that!

And oh, Dark Lord, I am so sorry you deleted last night's DarkStream. I wanted to watch it again. Seeing you demonstrate how to deal calmly through anger was very beneficial. The stream was wonderful; not merely our own bit of dancing 'round the fire; but seeing a true leader leading! Priceless!

Blogger Cre8ive Bear November 23, 2019 8:51 AM  

That TB child commenting on The Darkstream last night was disgusting. If these were my followers I would be utterly embarrassed. These frogs only proved to the world that they truly are a plague.

Blogger Rick November 23, 2019 8:54 AM  

Really happy to hear about Wranglestar. Stumbled across him one day looking for videos about taking down a tree correctly, for my son (since my son’s dad kinda does it but is self taught).
WS has that temperament and teaching style that reminds me of the countless generous, hands-on type mentors I’ve had growing up.

Blogger Garuna November 23, 2019 8:57 AM  

What did people ever expect from the Incel Right? They're incels for a good reason.

Make Bullying Great Again!

Blogger Fuzzums Wuzzums November 23, 2019 9:05 AM  

The dilemma of the opposition is as follows:
The Left wing controls all the large platforms.
They favor those who push the progressive agenda.
In order to be let to speak as a right-winger on said platforms you have to declare yourself a free speech advocate.
Once that happens any sort of moderation will be seen as an argument for your own deplatforming.
No moderation will cause everyone who was suppressed to flock over to you.
Not everyone who was suppressed shares your views, and a lot of them were banned for good reasons.
Now you're forced to deal with all the baggage that comes with the unwanted followers which is inimical to your own objectives.
The only way to damage control this is by applying moderation which will lead to a series of mental gymnastics trying to explain to people how moderation and free speech aren't opposed to each other.

Rek. wrote:Is that dude actually all right in his head?

98% chance he wrote that while wearing a fedora.

Blogger M Cephas November 23, 2019 9:25 AM  

I didn't get the chance to watch last night's darkstream. Some of Nick's audience is reminiscent of alt-retard so I'm guessing they played a part in it being taken down.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan November 23, 2019 9:32 AM  

His brand of "activism" is one step removed from the nihilism of the black piller alt-tards. In a 4GW scenario the best he can offer is to provoke an over reaction from the State against the "ocean of fish we swim in", thank you Mao.

I'm a subscriber to UA and his inclusion would be jarring against the positive, hopeful and useful work that the oppressed gardener produces, that's my opinion.

Blogger dienw November 23, 2019 9:55 AM  

I feel as though I am watching some modern day version of Westside Story: Everybody! Start snapping your fingers in rhythm!

Seriously Vox, I was irritated by the arrogance and ill manners of the Groypers . One cannot form an alliance with people who behave as though they are still on the grade school playground.

Blogger dienw November 23, 2019 9:59 AM  

Shane Bradman wrote:@3. And it has too many words in it. There are no bonus points for being verbose and nobody is impressed by it.

Easy, easy there Shane; the poor fellow is a C student from a third-rate creative writing class.

Blogger BriarRabbit November 23, 2019 10:05 AM  

Sounds like Unauthorized needs to sell a "Leaping To Conclusions" game mat.

Blogger Argus Bacchus November 23, 2019 10:27 AM  

Groyper gamma proyjection.

Blogger David Craig November 23, 2019 10:30 AM  

I thought Unauthorized was perfectly complete until we (you, they?) picked up Zammy haha. And it keeps getting incrementally better somehow, so I'm grateful for the fine judgment unauthorized has demonstrated.

Screeching monkeys hurling feces at one another can be entertaining, but if I wanted to see it I'd go to the zoo

Blogger Br1cht November 23, 2019 10:39 AM  

If Vox´s pen was a rapier there would be blood on the ground now.

The Sephardi "knife" is a bit too flexible to serve I´m afraid.

Blogger sammibandit November 23, 2019 10:48 AM  

Conclusion: Thomas Howard's mommy cuts his steak and pork chops.

Blogger S. Thermite November 23, 2019 11:10 AM  

It’s outstanding that you signed Wranglerstar. I’m also looking forward to the announcement of the Roku app.

Blogger Dave November 23, 2019 11:14 AM  

Thomas Howard crash and burn.

nightly superchat support

Didn't Big Bear have people sending him large $ superchats just to try to piss on his parade? Not all superchats are support.

Blogger Section 8A November 23, 2019 11:17 AM  

Ever more glad to have joined UATV. Barcelona Life is great, but White Bull Business won't load lately.

I never get tired of supporting a platform that doesn't hate me.

Blogger Balkan Yankee November 23, 2019 11:20 AM  

Groypers are mostly Gen Zed?

Blogger Rabid Ratel November 23, 2019 11:38 AM  

Longtime Lurker wrote:Groypers are mostly Gen Zed?

I wouldn't know, but they are acting like Gen Stupid.

Blogger Ska_Boss November 23, 2019 12:34 PM  

Go figure, it starts to look and feel like high school drama when the groypers (read zoomers) inject themselves into the discourse of other groups, not that I oppose that when it comes to personalities like Shapiro, Kirk and Crowder.

Nick can continue toeing the line to stay monetized on YouTube but he is always going to be at the mercy of (((Google's))) terms of service, which are diametrically opposed to actual conservatism. Which in a way sort of makes him controlled opposition or a gatekeeper.

Blogger Alexamenos November 23, 2019 12:40 PM  

Sorry I cant handle the complexity of the comment systems.

Anyway, I like groypers and alt retards. They're rejecting the all pervasive globohomo and groping for a more meaningful existence. If I were 30 years younger I'd probably be right with them.

Blogger Mary MacArthur November 23, 2019 12:41 PM  

@3 @8

It comes off that way 'cause it's just cribbed from Dark Knight Rises, a line delivered by a femme fatale villain. Mr. Howard doesn't understand the effects of context.

Blogger Nation-Deprived November 23, 2019 12:51 PM  

@Thomas Howard hmmm movie quotes...

Blogger Fuzzums Wuzzums November 23, 2019 12:56 PM  

Speaking of Wranglestar, I just looked at his SocialBlade statistics. His subscriber count is frozen at 1.33 million subs. I also noticed Vox's sub count is frozen at 33k. Is this some of their gematria crap?

I then looked up a series of famous channels and all the subs seem frozen. This wasn't the case a while back when you could watch a Live feed of each subbing and unsubbing. YT stats are no longer reliable.

Blogger sammibandit November 23, 2019 12:57 PM  

As you may or may not know, TDK is very popular in meme culture/America First and fits very nicely with the Fuentes knife moniker.

Lurk moar

Where's the debate?

Blogger VD November 23, 2019 1:01 PM  

You're banned for lying, Thomas Howard. I never "curried" Nick Fuentes or anyone else for Unauthorized.

I don't give a single flying fuck about Nick Fuentes. I still have not watched so much as one minute of any of his livestreams or videos. The only reason I contacted him was because a number of commenters - most likely his fans - suggested I do so.

I have not made a similar mistake since and I will not make a similar mistake again. Any future suggestions that I speak with anyone concerning Unauthorized will meet with an automatic "no".

Blogger Uncle John's Band November 23, 2019 1:36 PM  

@31 Interesting. Not up on my Pedowood, but knowing that that's where this retard gets his "erudition" is too perfect.

Blogger Trading EWP November 23, 2019 1:56 PM  

Nick is grabblier than the grabblers.

Blogger Doktor Jeep November 23, 2019 2:11 PM  

See how gammas do this? They say Vox has some beef with Nick. Therefore, it's because he wanted Nick on UATV but got rejected.
This is not at all different than disagreeing with a woman. You disagree, therefore it's because she won't date or have sex with you. Or if the subject is more macro, it's because ALL women won't date you.
In the end, the net benefit of all this is showing us that while the groypers' efforts against Conservative Inc. are commendable, it's a gamma male movement of which it's only a matter of time until backbiting, gossip, "herding cats", and e-drama takes over. Conservative Inc is low hanging fruit anyway. All the neocons have to do is wait.
One thing is clear though, and it's a detriment via the Internet. The rise of the Gamma exists because of the internet because if all this kind of crap were were face to face, like in the days of old, gammas got punched in the mouth. Thus the environment is entirely positive and safe for gammas and they never learn how to at least act normal.

Blogger David son of Mark November 23, 2019 2:32 PM  

Can we please stop all this stupid internet drama? Everyone should just go back to their own groups and leave each other alone

Blogger nidus of inflection November 23, 2019 2:38 PM  

@31 @32
I completely missed that. Everyone quotes Bane. No one quotes what's-her-name.
Movie quotes are bad enough. A man quoting a female character has to be a whole other level.

Blogger Gregory the Tall November 23, 2019 2:56 PM  

When Nick realised that being breastfed at 22 and providing content via are mutually exclusive he decided he certainly did not want to give up the former and never even tried to apply for the latter.

Blogger Unknown November 23, 2019 3:53 PM  

Roosh has the right take on this internet drama stuff. I can appreciate Vox and Owen doing their own things, and Nick doing his own thing elsewhere. Attempts of either fanbase to stir up trouble with the other are misguided.

Blogger Gregory the Tall November 23, 2019 4:17 PM  

David son of Mark wrote:Can we please stop all this stupid internet drama? Everyone should just go back to their own groups and leave each other alone

I disagree. These things have to happen to part the wheat from the chaff.

Blogger Frostbite.Phoenix November 23, 2019 5:11 PM  

It is shocking to me how many people fundamentally misunderstand or intentionally twist the hierarchy to suit their own narrative.

Blogger Omega not Alpha November 23, 2019 6:30 PM  

Is Nick arrogant? Yes. Is he a liar? I don't think so. I haven't been listening to him for very long but "optics" has been a consistent theme. There's no benefit to denying the holocaust and I don't think he ever did. He's leading people to take the fight into the public square. I have immense respect for Vox and Owen, but that is something they are not doing.

Vox is a grizzled old warrior, but he works in the shadows, taking down SJWs in dark alleys. Big Bear is a man who knows the system and decided it wasn't worth it, and is doing his own thing. I think there's value in this, but if we don't get our message out to the normies, then we are doomed.

Going and making a coumpound in the woods is probably a good idea if you can afford it, however us young men have been castrated by the culture we grew up in. I will have to do shitty manual labor for years next to sweaty Mexicans who don't speak English if I want to have a place half as nice as Big Bear. It's also pretty damn hard to find a woman who actually wants to get married.

My point is it seems to me that the three of you agree on about %95+ of things. I believe that if you guys actually talked to each other, you might realize how all this pointless drama is just the result of egos being hurt due to internet miscommunications.

The debate is probably a good idea if everyone goes in with an open mind, good faith and refrain from well poisoning, if it's possible to cleanse the taint that is already in the proverbial well.

God Bless

Blogger maniacprovost November 23, 2019 6:44 PM  

They should patch up there differences and work together

Why, is Nick a comic artist? Game designer? Satirical novelist? Wiki developer? Network engineer? Key grip?

you might realize how all this pointless drama

With respect to streaming video subscriptions, pointless drama is one of the ingredients to success.

Blogger James Jameson November 23, 2019 7:01 PM  

He tells the public he's being ironic when he questions the holocaust, then tells his livestream viewers he's being ironic when he says he believes the Holocaust. Hence he is lying, even if you believe the irony itself is not also lying. And as soon as anyone like Owen or Vox criticizes him he slanders them.

Blogger Omega not Alpha November 23, 2019 7:15 PM  

@maniacprovost We're all trying to beat the devil here fundamentally. They have different skill sets which is exactly why I believe working together is advantageous.

Blogger Mauldication Bear November 23, 2019 10:56 PM  

I admit, today I binge-watched about a dozen Wranglerstar videos. Earlier this year, when Owen suggested the bears go check out Fuentes, I got through about 15 seconds of him talking and promptly shut it off. UATV is blessed to have Wranglerstar in my opinion. That family is a wealth of practical knowledge and living right.

Blogger Trading EWP November 23, 2019 11:05 PM  

All this will pass way. Just like Jordan Peterson case. Within few years people will get tired of defending Nick,
who now they think is their great Savior.

Blogger jkmack November 24, 2019 1:23 AM  

@45 You should look into working next to sweaty Mexicans, if you work half as hard as them, you will be sweaty too. If you hope to have a place as nice as Owen's you will be doing tons of shitty manual labor, and be sweaty, if you wish to hire some Mexicans to help you out, that is up to you.

You really need to re-evaluate your presumptions, because right now you seem to think life is being some kind of effeminate milk engorged youtube dillettante. You can become very wealthy doing shitty manual labor next to a bunch of sweaty Mexicans, and they seem to have no shortage of women willing to marry and bear them children. Perhaps you should talk to a few of them and figure out what you are doing wrong. I can guarantee you one thing. A lot of women are turned off by men who are too good to do shitty manual labor, be that washing dishes, mowing yards, or taking out trash.

Blogger wreckage November 24, 2019 2:32 AM  

@51 you can make good coin doing shitty labour, you get buff as hell, and rural or regional churches are where young women who want to get married can usually be found. @45 has to remember that as the wall goes up and Mexicans leave, there's going to be more sweaty jobs for white guys, not less. Hell, the whole idea that first-worlders shouldn't have to dig is a big part of what got the US into the mess it's in now.

Blogger Avalanche November 24, 2019 7:59 AM  

@39 "Everyone should just go back to their own groups and leave each other alone"

Jordie? Jordie? Is that you? Does the rehab place know you've snuck onto their computer? Better go back to your cell before they find out!

Blogger Omega not Alpha November 25, 2019 8:17 PM  

@52 You're not wrong, and I understand your point. My original point is that the labor market is pretty fucked up right now because of all the immigrants. I actually don't mind manual labor so much, but it's pretty demoralizing to work for less than my father could have made doing the same work, without any kind of healthcare coverage and working with people I can't even talk to.

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