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Monday, November 04, 2019

Another Magic Dirt fail

Forget the ladies room. Conservatives couldn't even conserve the English language in the United States:
A record 67.3 million U.S. residents speak a foreign language at home, the latest sign of the growing influence of immigrants on American culture. Census Bureau data shows that homes that do not speak English first grew seven times faster than those that do.

The data, analyzed by the Center for Immigration Studies, found that in the top five American cities, an average of 48% speak a foreign language at home, mostly Spanish or Chinese. And in 90 major cities, more than half speak a non-English language at home.

The analysis said, “The Center for Immigration Studies finds that 67.3 million residents in the United States now speak a language other than English at home, a number equal to the entire population of France. The number has nearly tripled since 1980, and more than doubled since 1990. The growth at the state level is even more pronounced. All language figures in Census Bureau data are for persons five years of age and older.”

Key highlights from the newly-released analysis:
  • In America's five largest cities, just under half (48%) of residents now speak a language other than English at home. In New York City, that figure is 49%; in Los Angeles, it is 59%; in Chicago, it is 36%; in Houston, it is 50%; and in Phoenix, it is 38%.
  • Nearly 22% of U.S. residents speak a foreign language at home — more than double the 11% who did in 1980.
But don't worry. These New Americans would totally respect the Constitution and the Federalist Papers if they had any ability to read them.

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74 Comments:

Blogger Uncle Maffoo November 04, 2019 9:02 AM  

Does this consider Ebonics to be a foreign language?

Blogger Mr.MantraMan November 04, 2019 9:03 AM  

And for some strange reason our blessed Healers do not think these folk need healing, dang that strange.

Blogger Uncle Maffoo November 04, 2019 9:06 AM  

"But don't worry. These New Americans would totally respect the Constitution and the Federalist Papers if they had any ability to read them."

Just wait til we tell 'em about the value of self-reliance and low corporate tax rates!

Blogger Uncle Maffoo November 04, 2019 9:07 AM  

Mr.MantraMan wrote:And for some strange reason our blessed Healers do not think these folk need healing, dang that strange.

They think it their fellow white people who need the healing.

Blogger Nobody of Consequence November 04, 2019 9:09 AM  

It has however always been this way. When the Germans came in the 1700s they spoke German at home and in their groups. Same with Irish, Italian, French and every other immigrant. In the 1950s, it was this way at least in NM and west TX.

It is true that they cannot read the founding documents but then even as recently as the 2010s, they couldn't read their own languages. Too many people think they know a language because they speak it.

Hell even the regular born here folks can't read and comprehend the Constitution and the Declaration. It's words escape them. Look at how stupid people are about things like the SC having the final say when the SC is subordinate to the Constitution which is subordinate to the will of the majority of the People which the People would understand if they had the slightest inkling about how the Framers set things up. How about the ejits that recite the Pledge, a socialist screed written by an anti-semite who hated capitalism and was using the pledge to destroy the US.

Education, woe to thee!

Blogger Nation-Deprived November 04, 2019 9:15 AM  

I went to a state park near a major city the other weekend with the lady. Any peaceful ambiance or animal sightings we hoped to enjoy was killed by the sound of many foreign languages. East European, Asian, Indian, Hispanic. We even passed a black couple that were in fact playing their music out loud on a speaker.

That 48% number sounds just about right.

Blogger cecilhenry November 04, 2019 9:22 AM  



You deal with the traitor shooting you in the back FIRST. #WhiteGenocide



Western politicians and elites: The people who look like you, who want to speak for you, but have NO loyalty to you.


https://imgur.com/xq4Pulp.png


Blogger CarpeOro November 04, 2019 9:23 AM  

Charlie Kirk's plan is coming together! Soon we'll have all the smart people from China here! Of course most won't bother to learn English but Magic Dirt means they'll just be good Americans. Maybe even better than the English ones.

Blogger Andy Evick November 04, 2019 9:33 AM  

I live in central Pennsylvania. When I go to the open markets and buy my food from the Amish folks, most speak to each other in German/ Pennsylvania Dutch.

I find comfort in that. But then again, the Amish in the Susquehanna River valley are humble, patient, disciplined, resourceful, and God-fearing. And they are multiplying at an amazing rate. I for one welcome our new rural Anabaptist overlords.

Blogger pdwalker November 04, 2019 9:43 AM  

gosh. just think off all those new languages Americans are getting exposed to. soon we’ll be able to speak as many languages as the average european!

is there anything diversity cannot do?

Blogger Alcuin November 04, 2019 9:46 AM  

Center for Colonization Studies.

Blogger Tars Tarkas November 04, 2019 9:57 AM  

Nobody of Consequence wrote:Hell even the regular born here folks can't read and comprehend the Constitution and the Declaration. It's words escape them. Look at how stupid people are about things like the SC having the final say when the SC is subordinate to the Constitution which is subordinate to the will of the majority of the People

You're the last person who should be speaking on the subject.

Blogger nswhorse November 04, 2019 10:01 AM  

For Charlie Smallface, it's not even Magic Dirt. It's a Magic Idea.

Blogger LZ November 04, 2019 10:08 AM  

America is like a hotel. Your citizenship has the same value as a lifetime pass to stay at any Best Western.

Blogger Uncle Maffoo November 04, 2019 10:13 AM  

CarpeOro wrote:Charlie Kirk's plan is coming together! Soon we'll have all the smart people from China here! Of course most won't bother to learn English but Magic Dirt means they'll just be good Americans. Maybe even better than the English ones.

Don't forget all the awesome butt-secks that conservatives are oddly cool with all of a sudden!

Blogger swiftfoxmark2 November 04, 2019 10:29 AM  

I wouldn't worry too much about it. Most of these demographic issues are happening in the cities, where nothing is grown or made, and the service industry is dominate.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd November 04, 2019 10:36 AM  

Nobody of Consequence wrote:It has however always been this way.

It has not. I know people raised in the '50s who know they have German or Polish grandparents, but don't know a word of their grandparent's language, because their parents refused to let them learn. The parents wanted them to be American. That's what immigrants used to do: they used to try to assimilate, to blend in. It didn't make them us, but it at least made them less obnoxiously not us.

Nobody of Consequence wrote:Hell even the regular born here folks can't read and comprehend the Constitution and the Declaration. It's words escape them.

They have a lot of trouble with apostrophes, too.

The men who wrote the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution were selected to do that because they were the cream of the crop in intellect, experience and education. None the less, they wrote for a typical educated audience. Half the population back then would probably have struggled to fully understand, but more than half could have read it.

None of the founding fathers went to a public school. Neither did their countrymen. Before universal, free, compulsory schooling we had a literacy rate close to 100 percent.

Homeschool or die.

Blogger Karen took the Kids November 04, 2019 10:39 AM  

The melting pot is coming to the boil

Blogger Manuel November 04, 2019 10:43 AM  

Buenos días, fellow Americanos.

Blogger SaltHarvest November 04, 2019 10:44 AM  

As it stands, legislation intended to secure English as the official language would probably not survive a Constitutional challenge on First Amendment grounds (compelled speech). Given the present reality, attempts to meet the stringent requirements of an amendment will predictably fail against opposition at "home" and abroad. Resurgent propagation of the language will have to be a private affair.

Blogger peacefulposter November 04, 2019 10:46 AM  

California allows people to take their driver's test in 32 different languages.

Blogger Nathan Hornok November 04, 2019 10:58 AM  

I is clear that the US will not have cohesion across these ever growing language barriers. But on the bright side, these language barriers will also prevent the tower of babel 2.0 from ever forming. So it seems God knew what He was doing when He injected multiple languages into humanity to create separate Nations.

Blogger Matt November 04, 2019 11:00 AM  

In other related news, non-Americans are trying to rename things named after actual Americans to be named after things from Africa. Weird how that works! The magic dirt is super ineffective for some reason!

https://whdh.com/news/boston-activists-look-to-rename-dudley-square/

I'll be voting "hell no" on the referendum tomorrow, for what it's worth.

Blogger Scuzzaman November 04, 2019 11:01 AM  

And in 90 major cities ...

Looks like targeting data ... but, while I’m not so blasé about it, previous comments are essentially correct; in any disasters (economic, military or whatever) these are going to be first to eat each other.

The damage they do in the meanwhile is why I’m not so blasé. The damage already done is huge.

Blogger LES November 04, 2019 11:03 AM  

Press 2 for English.

Blogger 🐻Drew🐻 November 04, 2019 11:04 AM  

Guess this brings the "at least we're not speaking german" meme to an end.

Blogger Nickels for Nancy November 04, 2019 11:05 AM  

Ebonics would make it 70% foreign language spoken at home in CONUS. Fucking sweet!

Blogger P Glenrothes November 04, 2019 11:06 AM  

Conservatives have conserved homelessness, addiction, rat infestation, Hepatitis, Typhoid and Bubonic plague.

Blogger Stilicho November 04, 2019 11:24 AM  

@28 you forgot sodomy, but the conservatives did not

Blogger JonM November 04, 2019 11:30 AM  

And in 90 major cities...

Those are the only places that matter to the author, Scuzzaman.

Blogger Warunicorn November 04, 2019 11:33 AM  

Matt wrote:In other related news, non-Americans are trying to rename things named after actual Americans to be named after things from Africa. Weird how that works! The magic dirt is super ineffective for some reason!

https://whdh.com/news/boston-activists-look-to-rename-dudley-square/

I'll be voting "hell no" on the referendum tomorrow, for what it's worth.


From that article:

"The Nubian Square Coalition is calling for Dudley Square to be renamed Nubian Square, as part of a broader movement to remove symbols and monuments associated with the slave trade.

“This is a name that would be reflective of our cultural heritage, become a true family shopping district, project the spirit of growing black and brown businesses and an optimistic view of the future for our community,” said Sadiki Kambon, chairman of the Nubian Square Coalition."


I just despise these people. They could chug a bottle of Clorox and I wouldn't stop them.

Blogger Homesteader November 04, 2019 11:46 AM  

Obviously a direct descendant of Crispus Attucks.

Blogger Jose Miguel November 04, 2019 11:58 AM  

My parents raised me only with English in an English speaking neighborhood. In high school I found the women of my heritage more attractive than the American girls around me, which lead to me learning the language of my fathers quite quickly. Half of the girlfriends I had did not speak English. I did end up marrying into another tribe yet same race, kind of like a Dane marrying a Norwegian. I live in a city where I use English to communicate with my Nigerian and East Asian neighbors, in a county that, as of this year, is now majority Spanish speaking. My wife and I have our first kid on the way, and are saving towards buying land in the countryside in a part that is overwhelmingly Norteño Mexicano because we want our children to be surrounded by their own culture.

Someone mentioned in another post earlier this week that you can't trust an immigrant since they already betrayed one country. This is true and I see it in my parents. One is disappointed their grandkids are going to have Spanish names. One hated their national heritage for most of my life. My hermanos have also been returning to their cultural roots much to their chagrin. In rejecting their own heritage they adopted nationalism for Israel alone, and support more immigration to the US and a pro-Israel foreign policy while pretending they e a part of the American Boomer generation. Even in my motherland they've funded this Israel-first-at all-costs. I don't want them to go back and do more of that than what they are already doing, though I think Americans should kick them out for the American people's sake. They wanted their children to be American, and all of us realized by kindergarten we weren't, by middle school, we couldn't and by high school, we didn't want to.

I moved to a part of the US where I have ancestors who built churches and missions that still stand today, and for my mental and physical health that has been great. Though I appreciate the New England colonial style homes I grew up in and my father built, I will build my family's home in the style of the hacienda my ancestors lived in for hundreds of years. I moved back to the motherland twice, both times my American employer pulled me back to the US. Realizing that where I'm at is de facto my people's land again, I left my job to start a business that serves my people and raise my family here.

I do hope Americans keep the Midwest, Dixie and the North, and that Texans keep at least north Texas. They are a good nation, who've been ruled by a conquering foreign power in DC like my nation. It should have been the North Easterners who lost most of their homeland from the dissolution of the American Empire in my book. FYI there are many Confederate memorials in South America. Not because Latinos were fans of Dixie but because Yankees were hated for their constant nosing in our nations, and Confederates killed Yankees, thus Confederates must have been the good guys.

Blogger MJ November 04, 2019 12:04 PM  

"But don't worry. These New Americans would totally respect the Constitution and the Federalist Papers if they had any ability to read them."

Good thing we have turning point USA doing Hispanic outreach!

Blogger Max November 04, 2019 12:07 PM  

The Supreme Court interprets the Constitution, which arguably makes them above it since many parts are vague.

Blogger Noah B. November 04, 2019 12:09 PM  

The Nubian Square Coalition is calling for Dudley Square to be renamed Nubian Square, as part of a broader movement to remove symbols and monuments associated with the slave trade.

Better start by removing African names and symbols then. Practically all black slaves were sold to slave traders by other African tribes.

Blogger PH November 04, 2019 12:12 PM  

Bilingual candidates preferred.

Blogger Oswald November 04, 2019 12:14 PM  

I heard a professor once say that one way Congress could look at reigning in the Supreme Court was by tinkering with their appellate jurisdiction:

Article three says in part: In all cases affecting ambassadors, other public ministers and consuls, and those in which a state shall be party, the Supreme Court shall have original jurisdiction. In all the other cases before mentioned, the Supreme Court shall have appellate jurisdiction, both as to law and fact, with such exceptions, and under such regulations as the Congress shall make.

Blogger PH November 04, 2019 12:22 PM  

Very interesting post. Thank you.

Blogger jkmack November 04, 2019 12:24 PM  

You may be interested to know that Andrew Cuomo recently confirmed that there is no such thing as magic dirt, when he stated that Donald Trump was never a New Yorker, that being a New Yorker is a state of mind, and an attitude. Trump May want to keep all that in mind as he receives his last few tax bills from New York on his way to moving to Florida.

Blogger urthshu November 04, 2019 12:26 PM  

Most of these demographic issues are happening in the cities, where nothing is grown or made

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Except political movements that wind up ruling the country, intellectual movements that miseducate all the kids and direct things like prison reforms and welfare. Aside from all the international trade and, yes, manufacturing.

Blogger PH November 04, 2019 12:28 PM  

In the near future, is it impossible to imagine demands that the state of Pennsylvania be renamed? Although Wm Penn didn't own slaves, neither did Betsy Ross and Nike abandoned plans for shoes with her flag.

Blogger weka November 04, 2019 12:36 PM  

No.

Blogger ADU November 04, 2019 12:41 PM  

As English the lingo of globo-homo degeneracy, not speaking english is a good thing in some ways.

Blogger Heian-kyo Dreams November 04, 2019 12:50 PM  

@33 You and your wife should go make one of the countries of your ancestors great and leave Americans alone.

Blogger Stilicho November 04, 2019 1:02 PM  

@33 when do you plan to start building a wall to keep immigrants out?

Blogger LAZ November 04, 2019 1:04 PM  

"Most of these demographic issues are happening in the cities, where nothing is grown or made, and the service industry is dominate."

Define cities. I live in the largest landlocked metro area in this hemisphere and all I see is things being grown and made.

Blogger Brick Hardslab November 04, 2019 1:09 PM  

I hope America forcibly reconquers every inch of American territory. But then it's just a dream.

Blogger Don't Call Me Len November 04, 2019 1:22 PM  

They have a lot of trouble with apostrophes, too.

Capitalization is also very confusing, and it won't be long before Merriam-Webster gives up and finally agrees "lose" should now be spelled "loose".

Blogger Jose Miguel November 04, 2019 1:23 PM  

It's already happening. the neighborhood I lived in was 95% plus Mexican in 2013. Obama dumped a bunch of Muslims in the middle of it in his refugee resettlement program. Lots of brutal racial violence and the Muslims fled. Same way Compton and Harlem went from black to Mexican. A wall of violent in-group preference is a strong start to physical walls.

Blogger Brett baker November 04, 2019 1:41 PM  

Homeschooling, yes.
But the everyone was literate trope needs to die. The average white American's name may have well been Shitavious in terms of literacy.

Blogger Brett baker November 04, 2019 1:44 PM  

You have a point.

Blogger Newscaper312 November 04, 2019 2:16 PM  

@49 plus
tenants => tenet
supposably => supposedly
etc, etc

Blogger Ominous Cowherd November 04, 2019 2:16 PM  

Brett baker wrote:But the everyone was literate trope needs to die.

Books like Last of the Mohicans sold ridiculous numbers of copies, and that's not easy reading by modern standards. There were a great many literate Americans, and a great many more who were functionally literate. I recall that Gatto found historical sources indicating 97%+ literacy in New England, and a majority of Whites literate everywhere, pre-public school.

Blogger Welsh Woodsman November 04, 2019 2:31 PM  

My ancestors came here on the Mayflower. To this day you can find a certain town in northern CT that was founded by my family . Streets , cemeteries , squares all bearing my surname.
Rural New England is my ancestral home. The thought of leaving is very foreign to me. Its the whitest area in the country and its wonderful. Even in these times , very low crime and still fairly high trust. The cold harsh winters and challenges to transportation brought on by topography keep the barbarians out of anywhere but the cities.

Blogger Stilicho November 04, 2019 2:59 PM  

@50 no, when are you going to start building walls to keep out undesirable Mexicans, Guatemalans, etc. Otherwise, you might as well live in Mexico, with all that entails. The dirt is not magic. Maybe the cartels will be better masters than those corruptocrats in Mexico City, but not judging by the available evidence. We aren't going to help you. And with 70 to 85 percent welfare rates, many of your countrymen aren't supporting themselves. Go home if you are pining for the fjords. Heck, we might even wake up and oppose you. That occasionally happens to invaders as you note about muslims.

Blogger OneWingedShark November 04, 2019 3:14 PM  

Max wrote:The Supreme Court interprets the Constitution, which arguably makes them above it since many parts are vague.
The Supreme Court needs to be beat down, and hard.
I would love to be able to issue an executive order seizing all their private property, selling it, and putting the proceeds towards the public debt, specifically citing their evil Keelo v. New London ruling. Force the bastards to lie in the beds they've made, and you'll be amazed at how quickly they'll reverse decisions.

Oswald wrote:I heard a professor once say that one way Congress could look at reigning in the Supreme Court was by tinkering with their appellate jurisdiction:

Article three says in part: In all cases affecting ambassadors, other public ministers and consuls, and those in which a state shall be party, the Supreme Court shall have original jurisdiction. In all the other cases before mentioned, the Supreme Court shall have appellate jurisdiction, both as to law and fact, with such exceptions, and under such regulations as the Congress shall make.

Congress is more than happy to wring their hands, wailing for the TV cameras, only to pat the rouge judges on the back and invite them to dinner, metaphorically speaking.

Brick Hardslab wrote:I hope America forcibly reconquers every inch of American territory. But then it's just a dream.
Pray.

Blogger Doktor Jeep November 04, 2019 3:15 PM  

The boomers that aided and abetted this are going to be saying something like "What? What are you saying?" when that pillow meets their face.

Blogger Darwin is a Harsh Mistress November 04, 2019 3:30 PM  

It makes all the difference when the words you're reading (the Declaration, the Constitution, the Mayflower Compact, the Anti-Federalists, the Articles of Association etc) . . .

were written by your g-g-g-great-grandfathers.

I didn't know my colonial history until late in life. I felt the stirring to be sure. But learning that stirring came from having their blood coursing through my veins was like waking up from a dream.

I KNOW WHO I AM NOW. And I'm willing to fight for it.

The immigrants can never know this unity. Alien colonists like the Pennsylvania Dutch and French Catholics in present day Maine and Quebec did not know it.

For good or ill it is not for them. It is for U.S.

Nobody of Consequence wrote:It has however always been this way. When the Germans came in the 1700s they spoke German at home and in their groups. Same with Irish, Italian, French and every other immigrant. In the 1950s, it was this way at least in NM and west TX.

It is true that they cannot read the founding documents but then even as recently as the 2010s, they couldn't read their own languages. Too many people think they know a language because they speak it.

Hell even the regular born here folks can't read and comprehend the Constitution and the Declaration. It's words escape them.

SNIP

Blogger Rick November 04, 2019 4:06 PM  

Vox - have you considered an English dictionary as part of your "classics" publishing objective? I have a nice 2 volume set (yuge) that together must be 8" tall lying down, printed in 1968 -- nice illustrations too. I wish it were older though - as one example, they seem to have wickedpediaized the meaning of word heterosexual by 1968, even. As I understand it, heterosexual first meant an abnormal desire for sex outside of marriage (to distinguish it from the norm being within a marriage, and thus, not needing a term at all). Now it effectively means "the opposite of homosexuality" as if one is as good as the other.

Blogger Oswald November 04, 2019 4:16 PM  

55. I had always heard that I had ancestors on the mayflower. Using various sites including (https://www.findagrave.com/), I was able to trace back that I have ancestors that go almost that far back. I have an ancestor born in Plymouth County, Massachusetts. Still working on the direct link to the Mayflower's passenger and crew list. I also found an ancestor who was part of the New York Militia: war of 1812. They actually have a picture of the tombstone. Cool.

Blogger Dan in Georgia November 04, 2019 4:22 PM  

Fredo is smart, not dumb. He can do stuff.

Blogger David Ray Milton November 04, 2019 4:49 PM  

Luckily for us, according to Charlie Kirk, America is just an idea. Unfortunately for us, the mind containing that idea is schizophrenic.

Blogger Jose Miguel November 04, 2019 5:02 PM  

If your descendants do pull it off Brick, make sure they change the names of the streets, towns, cities and rivers.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd November 04, 2019 5:55 PM  

@60, most of the first edition of the OED is either out of copyright or will be soon. Last volume was published in 1928, I think?

Blogger Duke Norfolk November 04, 2019 6:13 PM  

Oswald wrote:Using various sites including (https://www.findagrave.com/)

I've been doing a lot of genealogy work over the last several months and I'm sorry to tell you that FAG is not reliable as a source for genealogy. Sure, a lot of it is accurate, but there's a lot of bogus crap on there too.

It goes hand in hand with the genealogy sites (Ancestry, etc.) that have bogus connections being made all over the place.

People blindly copy from others' trees, and because so many are doing it, it gives it an aura of reliability. "If so many people have that person as his father, it must be correct, right?" Uh, no.

So just beware that there is no authority making sure that info is correct on FAG. It's just one person in charge of each different page. Some are diligent, requiring a valid primary source(s), or reliable secondary source(s).

Blogger The Lab Manager November 04, 2019 6:24 PM  

Like Ann says, 'our new country is going to be great!'. And I'm sure the libertardians are all excited about these 'natural libertarians' voting for more limited government.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd November 04, 2019 6:38 PM  

Duke Norfolk wrote:I've been doing a lot of genealogy work over the last several months and I'm sorry to tell you that FAG is not reliable as a source for genealogy. Sure, a lot of it is accurate, but there's a lot of bogus crap on there too.

Is there a source that isn't plugged with bogosity? I'm aware of things like census records, steamship manifests, Revolutionary and Civil War records and so on, but aside from these original sources, I don't think there is any reliable source.

Blogger lynnefoghart November 04, 2019 6:59 PM  

As someone from the Southwestern parts of the country I’m not immensely concerned if the influx remains in the southwest where the Hispanic demographic has always been, both before and after annexation. In theory, there should be cultural clashes but not a complete incompatibility between Hispanics and the Euro-descended Americans- on account of the fact that a large number of these Hispanic are in part Euro-descended themselves. As the influx is among primarily the poor and those unable or unmotivated to find jobs in their home country (when an easy alternative with US-based remittances that are skyrocketed in value via exchange rate) - it is fair to say they are mestizos (mix Amerindian & Euro, generally Iberian) but with more of the Indian than the Euro. In spite of that genetic and hereditary influence, though, the Amerindians in Central America, especially Mexico, were thoroughly absorbed into and adapted to Spain. In spite of the heavier Amerindian descent, the mestizos speak the European language of Spanish, walk about in Euro and American style clothed, drive in vehicles invented by Americans & Europeans on streets and urban designs of America-Euro invention and culture, while holding their unique variation of Christianity given to them in the European Spanish variety and having a government whose structure comes from European philosophers. They’re so overwhelmingly European in their culture. However, ever since the Mexican Revolution of the 1910s ended and the Marxist Comintern (Communist International) agents successfully skewed the revolution with a permanent racialized Marxist doctrine, the media, education system, and common parlance constantly talk about how oppressed the poor Indians were, making all of them want to overemphasize their Indian-ness to be seen as more worthy. They speak in a permanent style of self-pity while ignoring the fact that they are as European as they are Indian, if not more so. Meanwhile the true Indians or mestizos with near totality of Indian descent that keep to their culture either live in a state of near total subjugation in tiny neglected corners or in the reverse extreme are in cahoots with their respective governments, generally as military aid or raw material resource czars.

To me it seems less incompatible with the Southwestern states (and only the southwestern, where Hispanics have historical ties; anything outside of that is just bad policy or I suppose Julius Caesar-style policy of doubling the bodies in the Senate and filling all the seats with barbarian Gauls so giddy to be there they’ll vote for their man every time) and more a product of bs Marxist doctrine that replaced the word proletariat with “Indio” and infected all mestizo educational culture from there.

It’s time to make Franco great again!

Blogger Amethyst Dominica November 04, 2019 7:11 PM  

@68 There really are no 100 percent reliable sources. Even primary sources often have mistakes. Most of my aunt's genealogical research was trashed when I discovered that much of it came from an unreliable Victorian Historian who confused two people with the same surname as the same person (each having received it from entirely different families.)

Genealogical sites that correlate DNA with family surnames might be a little more reliable. www.geni.com tends to do this and it allows different individuals to merge their own trees together (although it's run by Israelis.) FamilySearch.org is good for matching up public records and census data (although it's run by Mormons.) It's up to you if you want to hand your DNA info to non-Christians. (I guess Christians can't be assed to care about that sort of thing anymore...)

Blogger Chief_Tuscaloosa November 04, 2019 9:46 PM  

Jeb! said this shouldn't worry anyone.

Blogger JE Hamilton November 05, 2019 4:38 AM  

Pope Paul VI was more right than anyone could have dreamed.

Blogger Oswald November 05, 2019 10:23 AM  

Thanks everyone for pointing out how unreliable these genealogical sources are. I will take what I found with a grain of salt.

Blogger Duke Norfolk November 05, 2019 10:42 AM  

Ominous Cowherd wrote:Is there a source that isn't plugged with bogosity? I'm aware of things like census records, steamship manifests, Revolutionary and Civil War records and so on, but aside from these original sources, I don't think there is any reliable source.

There's good work done by genealogists that is of varying reliability, of course. Just about nothing is 100%, of course. There's always going to be some some possibility for error, no matter what.

Because a huge percentage of my roots go back to 17th and 18th century New England (with my NE ancestors all being those who moved west to OH, IN, IL, MO, NE, OK, etc.), I've relied a lot on the large amount of genealogy work that has been done on the colonial New England time and place. Is it error free? Of course not; and I strive to verify the critical factors whenever possible using primary sources. But overall I believe I'm getting a very good picture of my ancestry.

But many people naively swallow everything they see on the tree sites, and no doubt end up with a very bogus picture of their ancestry. Often it's full of nobility and famous people, I'm sure, because people will often make those connections no matter how incoherent it ends up being. I've seen some really stupid stuff out there, but I'm sure they're telling their families all about how they know who their ancestors are. I'm now wary of anybody telling me such things. It's often either crappy geni work, or family lore of questionable veracity.

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