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Wednesday, December 18, 2019

Articles of impeachment vote

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Blogger Salt December 18, 2019 8:13 PM  

The Democrats are on suicide watch

Blogger The Lab Manager December 18, 2019 8:16 PM  

This is incredible chickens$%^#t!!! I hate both parties but hate the Democrats even more now.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine December 18, 2019 8:22 PM  

Clown show continues. Punch and Judy is more entertaining.

Blogger Crew December 18, 2019 8:28 PM  

Decimate the Democrats in 2020!

Blogger JG Phoenix December 18, 2019 8:30 PM  

Trumpslide 2020 cometh and the delierious donkeys can't do anything about it.

Blogger Sargent.matrim December 18, 2019 8:31 PM  

The Democrats, trapped between their base and a dumb place.

Blogger Matthew Baker December 18, 2019 8:33 PM  

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Blogger thechortling December 18, 2019 8:41 PM  

CNN's post 15 minutes ago (825pm in Washington): "House Democrats have 216 votes, which is the number needed to impeach the President."

Why vote at all?-- there's no need! The suggestion is that The Party had made up its mind The Nadler started flapping his gums. It's like the Joker2 was released from it's Washington-Gotham location this evening.

Blogger SemiSpook37 December 18, 2019 8:43 PM  

All things being equal, taking the entire chamber to see “The Rise of Skywalker” would have been more productive.

Blogger God Emperor Memes December 18, 2019 8:48 PM  

Excuse my language, but this is total horseshit.

I will say this, though: the amount of projection the Democrats have engaged in with this farce is an example par excellence of the Third Law of SJW's. Those assholes are literally guilty of everything of which they have accused the God Emperor.

The letter he wrote to Pelosi makes me wonder if he's preparing some sort of legal backlash against her. I hope the Trump Curse kills that evil hag very soon.

Blogger Laramie Hirsch December 18, 2019 8:53 PM  

Will Trump survive impeachment?

Blogger Rebel Shoat December 18, 2019 8:57 PM  

The goal is taking back the senate. With RBG on death watch they stand to lose the supreme court for decades. After the senate votes to acquit, the Democrats can use a quick acquittal against senators in swing states.

Or this is a Hail Mary to deflect the hammer Trump is going to bring down on the deep state.

Blogger BriarRabbit December 18, 2019 9:00 PM  

What would happen, if anything, if he actually WERE impeached? Any idea? Both from a political viewpoint (could he be re-elected in 2020?) and from a boots-on-the-ground 4th gen warfare standpoint. The revolution cometh?

Blogger Hammerli 280 December 18, 2019 9:01 PM  

I'm hoping that Trump will play rough. Make the case for Biden's guilt in the Senate...which means that investigation was 100% legitimate and proper.

And that the impeachment vote was an attempt to obstruct justice. Which is a Federal felony. Delay the State of the Union address a week or two, get past the Senate vote. Walk into the Capitol...followed by 500 or so Federal Marshals and arrest every Democrat who voted for the criminal obstruction of justice. And their Propaganda Press bosses.

Blogger Geir Balderson December 18, 2019 9:02 PM  

I wonder if this impeachment scenario is what David the Good had in mind when he wrote "Compost Everything"?

Blogger Lovekraft December 18, 2019 9:04 PM  

Keep your ears tuned to appeals to the womens' vote. Their basic argument is starting from a vague emotional position, but they will try to stop the bleeding of independents.

Also, noticed an uptick in challenges to our narrative across a few sites. Antifa went underground about a year and a half ago and will be converging online instead. Is it a conspiracy to think there are thousands of paid Sorosians working on a narrative shift?

If they are probing and looking for weaknesses to help them push out any remaining dissidents (and many have already been deplatformed), keep each other informed is crucial

Blogger Laramie Hirsch December 18, 2019 9:07 PM  

I'm sorry, guys. But the way this is all being discussed everywhere (outside this circle), it's coming off as an enormous humiliation. But this is my initial impression.

If they boot Trump, it will mean that the will of the American people, via electoral college, is something to be overturned whenever convenient.

Blogger Scuzzaman December 18, 2019 9:10 PM  

I watched some scarecrow Democrat claiming they didn’t want this but it’s vital to hold every man to the law. From a party that has supported every illegal war and every breach of the constitution for over a century it was too much to watch any further.

I’m quite confident that Americans generally know this is self-serving bullshit and will punish the democrats accordingly.

Blogger Nathan Bruno December 18, 2019 9:12 PM  

@16

Women aren't usually keen for someone who shoots his one shot like they just did; the Democrats have only impotent rage. Their only power was in the threat of this vote so long as it was unrealized - but AOC plays that one note, and they all dance. Nobody who supported or will now support Trump cares. It's like Obamacare - you knew they were going to do it. It was so obvious that it's just boring.

Blogger Doktor Jeep December 18, 2019 9:13 PM  

This is what runs the world.

Blogger Tanjil Bren December 18, 2019 9:16 PM  

"But the way this is all being discussed everywhere (outside this circle), it's coming off as an enormous humiliation."

Only for the clowns who have taken it at all seriously. The articles are an utter joke, as was the process from start to finish.

Most importantly, impeachment has now become a political weapon, and the only way any future Republican POTUS will retain the position is if either the House or the Senate is majority Republican.

As usual, the left is burning down the house (forgive the pun).

Blogger Ed December 18, 2019 9:21 PM  

When it came out that Biden and his son, Hunter, were corrupt, the Dems had no choice but to make as much noise as possible against Trump to hope that the Biden guilt got drowned out. Some clever Republicans (like Trump) said, "oh, well, we'll just call Hunter Biden, Joe Biden, Adam Schiff, and some of the other sleazeballs to testify at the Senate trial!" "Not so fast," said Cocaine Mitch McConnell, "the charges are so flimsy, we shouldn't have any witnesses at all, just a quick vote." What's going on here is that this type of corruption is so widespread and so bipartisan, Cocaine Mitch fears that Hunter will finger a bunch of Republicans as benefactors of various foreign corrupt practices as well as making himself and his dad look guilty. We all know that Mittens is one of those corrupt Republicans, and he must be wheeling and dealing behind the lines trying to keep the Senate trial from being an actual trial. Why did Pelosi agree to the impeachment even though she knows it'd hurt Democrats in the short run? Because of the mutual assured destruction inherent in this case. Defend Trump effectively and you devastate the Republicans as well as the Democrats. Nancy wants impeachment for her base and a quick acquittal in the Senate so she can rile up Democrats by saying, "The Senate didn't really have a real trial!"

Of course we want Trump to vigorously defend himself, bring in as many witnesses as he wants, and if it blows up in the face of the Establishment Republicans as well as the Democrats, the more the better. Trump as Samson bringing the whole rotten system down in ruins. Unfortunately, he has a terrible roster of advisors and I think in the end they may convince him not to fight. "Take the easy win, Mr. President. No need to make this complicated." Javanka will urge him to do this too. After all, they can't get their primary priorities enacted without cooperation from the Dems and the GOPe. Will the God-Emperor be strong enough to reject all this advice to cave in, take the easy acquittal, and just go along to get along before the election? Or will he fight to the point of taking down everybody criminal. I hope the latter. I fear the former.

Blogger Illutionist101 December 18, 2019 9:24 PM  

He's not going to be convicted, he's going to win 2020. And if 1/2 to 1/4 of Q is true then the coming 4 years are going to be something to remember. Not enjoy living through mind, but remember. I don't see anyone in the current house of hooligans that is our government going quietly into the goodnight.

Blogger Guy Incognito December 18, 2019 9:26 PM  

I don't have much to say, except I just volunteered to help a campaign that's going to unseat my worthless representative.

I'm beyond angry.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd December 18, 2019 9:29 PM  

Laramie Hirsch wrote:Will Trump survive impeachment?
More reasonable to wonder whether the ipmeachers will survive Trump.

Blogger Redbeard December 18, 2019 9:29 PM  

I like Big Bear's take on all of this, just disengage and don't put any energy into caring because it's a waste. Focus on what you can do don't just scream at the TV because it changes nothing and what have you gained?

Blogger Matt December 18, 2019 9:33 PM  

Two dems voted against resolution 1 and three voted against resolution 2.
Tulsi Gabbard votes present.
Zero Republicans voted for this sham.

Blogger StrongCoffee61 December 18, 2019 9:33 PM  

Political Masturbation.

This retarded impeachment has no reproductive value in the Senate and is nothing more than getting the Democrat's rocks off while trying to stain the President.

Team Trump needs to boomerang the Left's stupidity against them with relentless pitiless aggression.


Blogger Beau December 18, 2019 9:35 PM  

Don't be discouraged, anxious, or afraid. Praise God. The truth is coming out. Lord let justice roll down like a mighty stream. Turn us back to you. Amen.

Blogger Cataline Sergius December 18, 2019 9:40 PM  

Kangaroo court is now dismissed.

And when this gets shot down in the Senate it's going to be the end for Pelosi just like it was for Gingrich.

A lot of the lunatics on the Left think there's actually a good chance Trump will be removed from office.

And they will turn on Nancy when they don't get their way.

Blogger Lazarus December 18, 2019 9:42 PM  

The House is a Clown Show. It supplies political fodder for the rabble.

Clinton was impeached by the House. It's irrelevant. The House is irrelevant.

The 3 levels of government are the Senate, the Judiciary, and the Executive Branch.

Blogger Didas Kalos December 18, 2019 9:44 PM  

Amen

Blogger lowercaseb December 18, 2019 9:44 PM  

Ed's kinda got the heart of it. It's obviously going to get dismissed in the Senate, but we gotta get a trial. Going for a simple vote plays into Pelosi's hands.

Be that as it may, Trump is going to win next year hands down. I just want that trial so that we can take a ton of those RINOs down as well as Biden and Hunter.

Blogger Bill McGill December 18, 2019 9:44 PM  

Laramie Hirsch wrote:
If they boot Trump, it will mean that the will of the American people, via electoral college, is something to be overturned whenever convenient.


It's been done before: the 1972 re-election of Richard Nixon. He won in a 49-state landslide (tied with Reagan in 1984).

Right after the 2nd term began, Democrats went after him on Watergate (which was a bogus scandal in many ways). Nixon was truly railroaded. Just a year and a half later, Nixon AND Agnew were out. You think that was not a coup? That the will of the American people was not nullified?

What's happening to Trump has been done before. For some reason, Nixon was perceived as a threat, in much the same way Trump is today.

Blogger Ska_Boss December 18, 2019 9:45 PM  

TGE must not let this heresy go unpunished!

Blogger Al K. Annossow December 18, 2019 9:45 PM  

If the Trump Derangement Syndrome people don't have a cause for which to keep watching the news, they stop imbibing the propaganda. Without propaganda, apathy would set in. Keeping an anti-Trump message alive keeps the free messaging flowing from the liberal media to the liberal voters. In turn, the failing media stay profitable a little while longer. It's part of the codependency. Politicians create the content, media sells viewers to advertisers, viewers stay motivated to vote for politicians. Rinse. Repeat.

Trump is rather effective in dissing both halves of that dependency. Both will diminish together.

Blogger Laramie Hirsch December 18, 2019 9:46 PM  

"More reasonable to wonder whether the impeachers will survive Trump."

What will the Senate do, in ya'lls opinion?

Blogger Tanjil Bren December 18, 2019 9:46 PM  

"And they will turn on Nancy when they don't get their way."

Amusingly, people here are resigned to the Senate voting impeachment down along partisan lines, while not for a moment conceding the partisan nature of proceedings to date.

Blogger Shane Bradman December 18, 2019 9:48 PM  

Is there a way to impeach congress? If you look at their popularity it's going to be easily below 15% approval. Trump cannot be removed from office because he controls the Senate. And this clown show is guaranteeing a Democrat loss in 2020. They cannot possibly beat Trump. They've abused the law to impeach Trump for the sole reason that they dislike him.

Blogger Ingot9455 December 18, 2019 9:51 PM  

I see it as a combination of several things.

1. The hail mary to see if they could peel off 20 RINOs - in the olden days, maybe they could. Maybe they could have rewritten reality enough. But no one trusts the media enough any more.

2. An attempt to delegitimize all future moves, "He can't nominate a Supreme Court Justice, he was impeached!" But this also will fail, or at least be no more or less successful than anything else, because he's already just as stymied in the courts.

3. An attempt to delegitimize the coming Storm a la DARVO - Deny, Accuse, Reverse Victim And Offender. They'll claim that when they're being prosecuted, if that ever happens, that this is just 'revenge' and shouldn't be allowed.

There's more no doubt. All destined to fail, but they had to try.

Blogger Rattlesnake_Kid December 18, 2019 9:52 PM  

I don't think we will know to what degree this is political circus until either the storm yields it's results or his second term arrives. I'm guessing they will overlap, so we won't know until his second term.

Bill McGill wrote:For some reason, Nixon was perceived as a threat, in much the same way Trump is today.

I'm sure the fact that Nixon didn't trust Prometheans didn't help, search 'nixon spies' on youtube.

Blogger thechortling December 18, 2019 9:54 PM  

Illutionist101 wrote:He's not going to be convicted, he's going to win 2020.

Most likely.

This entire event is going to be just as about as relevant next November 6th as "#believeher" and Christine Blasey Ford. They've disappeared and the MSM is on to it's next iterations of lunacy. I'm sure they'll be reminding everyone endlessly but like the guy in Iowa who didn't recognize Biden when Biden was staring at him in a local restaurant, most Americans won't remember impeachment other than some dull looking guy called The Nadler wasting a lot of their time.

Blogger Crew December 18, 2019 9:56 PM  

It seems the Democrats are not sending the articles of impeachment to the senate.

Instead they seem to be holding on to them so they can string this out until decisions come down from the SC and also perhaps to prevent Trump from arresting criminals in the House because that would be obstruction.

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2019/12/18/cunning-lawfare-maneuver-house-will-withhold-submission-of-articles-from-senate/

Blogger Jim December 18, 2019 9:57 PM  

Historians will look back upon this day as the start of the ceremonial Impeachment of the President, which in 2036 will formally be moved to January 21st.

Blogger Shane Bradman December 18, 2019 10:05 PM  

The reaction of the common person will be, "What does impeachment mean?"
The answer is, "Absolutely nothing"
So why would any normal person care about impeachment? It doesn't affect what Trump can do. It doesn't remove him from office. He's not a criminal. Not going to jail. And Trump knows all of this, which is why he's still doing rallies and having a great time with his supporters.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd December 18, 2019 10:05 PM  

Bill McGill wrote:Right after the 2nd term began, Democrats went after him on Watergate (which was a bogus scandal in many ways). Nixon was truly railroaded. Just a year and a half later, Nixon AND Agnew were out. You think that was not a coup? That the will of the American people was not nullified?
In '72, the 20 year olds who grew up in FDR's Great Depression and fought the Japs and the Krauts were in their 50s. They trusted government absolutely, unconditionally. The Congress was impeaching! Of course Nixon was dirty! Their Boomer kids were stoned, STD'ed and stupid.

Today's middle aged dudes are a very different bunch. So are our kids.

Blogger Cetera December 18, 2019 10:07 PM  

They will delay sending the articles to the Senate to be tried or dismissed as long as possible. The goal is to run out the clock.

RBG is going to die soon. They can prevent the appointment of a replacement if the impeachment trial hasn't been wrapped up. If they can do that for long enough, then they can invoke the Biden rule and prevent a SCOTUS appointment until after the 2020 elections.

They can also prevent any and all business, including passage/ratification of the USMCA trade deal, continuing resolutions for budget, etc. This is a final attempt to hold Trump hostage and force hom to resign, lose, or be removed.

Blogger Jim December 18, 2019 10:16 PM  

They can invoke squat, because they don't control the Senate.

Blogger Biggus Geekus December 18, 2019 10:17 PM  

Hey! The Democrats voted to re-elect Trump!

Blogger Derrick Bonsell December 18, 2019 10:18 PM  

Well those idiots did exactly what I thought they'd be too smart to do.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd December 18, 2019 10:23 PM  

Laramie Hirsch wrote:What will the Senate do, in ya'lls opinion?

What could they do?
1) Laugh it off. Call a vote the first day, and vote not to convict. This might be the worst thing, because Trump doesn't get to convict the Dirty Dems and GOP. Trump wins in 2020.
2) Appoint a special committee, to call whatever witnesses Trump needs to clear himself. Dirty Dems and GOP go to jail. Trump wins in 2020.
3) If Trump neglected to do his homework, didn't plan ahead, didn't get 51 Senators solidly in his pocket with promises of pardons or whatever, they could vote to convict. Has Trump ever failed to plan ahead? This is least likely, and Trump probably knows how he would handle it if it were to happen. Can't be impeached if you weren't legitimately elected, just for a start.
3a) Instead of convicting, a traitorous Senate could try to drag it out until November, without calling witnesses. This might be worse for the Dems than option 1, nearly as bad as option 2, but it lets the GOP sabotage Trump without openly getting in bed with their globohomo masters. Trump wins in 2020.

Do you see any other possibilities?

No matter what the Senate does, the lines are drawn, and nobody who cares enough to have an opinion is going to change that opinion.

Blogger Derrick Bonsell December 18, 2019 10:23 PM  

@43

Okay but that goes both ways. The longer they wait to send them over to the Senate the less serious they look and the less blowback there is for Mitch deciding to dismiss immediately.

Blogger thalios December 18, 2019 10:24 PM  

I care so little about this that I completely forgot about it. I spent the evening working, playing Halo Reach (ON PC!), and getting my daughter to hitting lessons.

Reading these comments are probably all I need to know. Thank you.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd December 18, 2019 10:28 PM  

Cetera wrote:RBG is going to die soon. They can prevent the appointment of a replacement if the impeachment trial hasn't been wrapped up.
Can they? The Senate has been catering to Trump pretty consistently.
Cetera wrote:... they can invoke the Biden rule and prevent a SCOTUS appointment until after the 2020 elections.
As Jim said, the House can't invoke squat, because the Senate is going to make the decision. Unless Trump has carelessly failed to get the Senate under his control, he will be able to appoint judges right up until the day of the election. Trump isn't careless.

Blogger Jack Amok December 18, 2019 10:29 PM  

RBG is going to die soon. They can prevent the appointment of a replacement if the impeachment trial hasn't been wrapped up.

No they can't. If they haven't sent the articles, the Senate just carries on confirming justices. If dems complain, Cocaine Mitch just has to say "you haven't bothered to make it official yet. Get off your butt if it's so damn important."

WTF is wrong with people. Before Obama and Holder, certainly before Clinton, following tradition and what not would have been expected. Schiff just declared CalivinBall. Play on...

Blogger White Knight Leo #0368 December 18, 2019 10:29 PM  

Well, Tulsi is still proving that she's saner than her colleagues I see. Still a Leftist but not driven mad.

Blogger The Depolrable Podunk Ken Ramsey December 18, 2019 10:29 PM  

I take the impeachment as more evidence of serious, systemic dysfunction in the USA. The charges are so ludicrous that the exercise is one giant abuse of the Constitution. Add to that the increasing nullifications spreading throughout the land and we've got a real mess on our hands. By nullifications I mean the growing tendency of local governments to discard the vaunted "Laws of the Land" at whim, as we see on an increasing array of issues from immigration sanctuaries to 2nd Amendment sanctuaries to drug enforcement and so on. This is really an exploding phenom here in Virginia, we've got almost every county in some kind of revolt claiming some kind of sanctuary status. Throw in the fact we've got a bevy of local prosecutors in the mold of the newly infamous Castro of San Francisco. These are radicals elected by a big push from Soros who are basically vowing a total retreat from law and order, and we have these types now in office locally.

I do note that the last time these sorts of things were seen in the land it was during the 1850s, in the ramp-up to the American Civil War. FWIW.

Blogger Doom December 18, 2019 10:31 PM  

So now "Being Impeached" lies somewhere between "Received a Nobel Peace Prize" and "being Time's Person of the Year" in terms of relevance?

Blogger Shane Bradman December 18, 2019 10:38 PM  

After this kabuki is over, Trump should remove impeachment. It's used as a weapon against an elected president. The English made the right choice by having the Queen immune from criminal charges. You should not be able to legally stage a coup.

Blogger Shane Bradman December 18, 2019 10:39 PM  

I would rather have the badge of Impeachment than the Nobel Prize of the Time Person of the Year. Sadly, I've already won Person of the Year in 2006. I hope to be Impeached soon to offset that blight on my record.

Blogger Derrick Bonsell December 18, 2019 10:40 PM  

@59 I'm not entirely convinced by polls, but that is unlikely since Americans certainly support removing Presidents who violate the law. What happened is that the Dems failed to make their case as to what law he supposedly broke.

People are still sure he got impeached for "withholding aid" but notice that "bribery" wasn't one of the charges. Not to mention that if bribing foreign leaders was a crime pretty much ever politician and diplomat is guilty as charged.

Blogger Jim December 18, 2019 10:42 PM  

If the Donks don't submit the articles to the Senate, I think if would be hilarious if the Republican House Majority in 2020 impeached Schiff and Pelosi for "Obstruction of Congress" over it.

Blogger Shane Bradman December 18, 2019 10:43 PM  

"Bribery" is a fundamental part of foreign policy, and domestic policy. It's not called bribery, but we all know what it is and there's nothing inherently wrong with that.

Blogger Derrick Bonsell December 18, 2019 10:45 PM  

I meant to add that the polls showing support for impeachment were early and it fell off dramatically from there. The Donks gave all they had to no avail.

Blogger Shane Bradman December 18, 2019 10:48 PM  

Amazing idea, Jim. Pelosi will wait as long as possible before giving the articles to the Senate because it will be crushed immediately. She's trying to preserve the momentum instead of it being shut down, but what she doesn't understand is that the Impeachment hype will fizzle out extremely quickly.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd December 18, 2019 10:52 PM  

Derrick Bonsell wrote:I meant to add that the polls showing support for impeachment were early and it fell off dramatically from there. The Donks gave all they had to no avail.
They ran their bluff. Trump called their bluff. Now what're they gonna do? Looks like they're going to cower and shriek and fling poo while they wait for the ax to fall.

Blogger Didas Kalos December 18, 2019 10:53 PM  

#FakePolls. When it became absolutely obvious that it was not supported - then they released some polls telling the truth. Must keep up the facade.

Blogger Rattlesnake_Kid December 18, 2019 10:58 PM  

White Knight Leo #0368 wrote:Well, Tulsi is still proving that she's saner than her colleagues I see. Still a Leftist but not driven mad.

Or just eyeing 2020 centrist votes to boost her profile for 2024.

Shane Bradman wrote:After this kabuki is over, Trump should remove impeachment. It's used as a weapon against an elected president. The English made the right choice by having the Queen immune from criminal charges. You should not be able to legally stage a coup.

Good Lord that is dumb, like we need a future BO/WW/FDR/LBJ/HRC/etc being above the law.

Blogger Rhino Bear December 18, 2019 11:00 PM  

On a side note... the hilarity of the thousands of people on twitter who believe that Pence is now president would make me laugh....but these idiots are able to vote and it vounts as much as mine does.

Blogger Jay Will December 18, 2019 11:02 PM  

To what extent does history emerge and to what extent is it engineered. Is it really more believable that they have gone insane than that they want your consent to tear it all down. Either way trump is a shoo in for reelection and that is exploitable.

Blogger SJ December 18, 2019 11:05 PM  

Voting is evil, it removes moral consequence for the machine. People ask is the machine working rather than say who is in charge and what are the consequences. Trump is the circus to the bread. All of it tricks people into ignoring what matters, and what matters is around you every day.

Impeachment? I've barely heard about it and I care even less.

Blogger NewTunesForOldLogos December 18, 2019 11:26 PM  

The Republicans and the Democrats both lose dozens of seats, corrupt men and women from both parties go to jail, a new Nationalist or Anti-Corruption party rises? Sounds lovely.

Blogger God Emperor Memes December 18, 2019 11:26 PM  

What a world we live in. - "Peace Prizes" are awarded to people who drone bomb schools, Person of The Year goes to a retarded puppet, and an elected President who asks a foreign government for help investigating corruption by the previous administration is "impeached".

Blogger pyrrhus December 18, 2019 11:30 PM  

"Will Trump survive impeachment?"

I think it's more like will impeachment survive Trump....

Blogger Nathan Hornok December 18, 2019 11:35 PM  

If I had TDS, these articles of impeachment would be sufficiently convincing to me. Not because of their validity but because the Democrats are expert deceivers. It takes 3 times the effort to dismantle the lies as it does to build them. The only argument I can think of that could possibly crack the impeachment delusion bubble is asking; "wouldn't it be good for the USA populace to know if there was some political bribery and money laundering going on in the Burisma company?"

Blogger Gulo Gulo December 18, 2019 11:40 PM  

Thanks Beau..that was a nice prayer !

Blogger Ominous Cowherd December 18, 2019 11:42 PM  

Nathan Hornok wrote:If I had TDS, these articles of impeachment would be sufficiently convincing to me.
At this point, nobody who has an opinion is going to change it. Nobody who doesn't have an opinion is going to start caring and get one. The lines are drawn, and aren't going to change much.

Blogger Nathan Hornok December 18, 2019 11:44 PM  

@57. The Depolrable Podunk Ken Ramsey
Local nullification of the unlawful over-reach of the dysfunctional, criminally corrupt central government is the best thing that could be happening right now. It looks messy, but it's a good trend that the Empire of the Federal government is loosing control. Move to a state where you will be welcome and ride it out.

Blogger LAZ December 18, 2019 11:51 PM  

"The Democrats, trapped between their base and a dumb place"

You're being redundent...

Blogger Weak December 18, 2019 11:59 PM  

Shane,

"I've already won Person of the Year in 2006" is top kek. Wanted you to know that someone here found it hilarious.

Blogger Long Live The West December 19, 2019 12:08 AM  

"I'm sorry, guys. But the way this is all being discussed everywhere (outside this circle), it's coming off as an enormous humiliation. But this is my initial impression."

Who the hell cares? The democrats can jerk each other off and declare victory all they want.

Stop listening to the people who hate you. It doesn't matter what the people who already hated Trump and voted for Hilary think this impeachment means for us. Because really all it means is that the democrats are now open about saying that a republican with a spine is automatically going to be impeached.

They hate you.
They hate everything you stand for.
They hate everything associated with you.
They hate God.

Blogger Jim December 19, 2019 12:12 AM  

Nathan Hornok wrote:The only argument I can think of that could possibly crack the impeachment delusion bubble is asking; "wouldn't it be good for the USA populace to know if there was some political bribery and money laundering going on in the Burisma company?"
You could make that exact same argument with the original Russia collusion narrative, where the DNC breach (not hack, because we have to trust the untrustworthy FBI that it was Russians and not a staffer with a flash drive) publicly showed the fix was in for Hillary. The major threat to our democracy, according to the official narrative, is that the Russians told the American people the truth, and the American people are supposed to get outraged at Russia for reasons unknown.

It should be 100% legal to, by hook or by crook, obtain and make public any document held by a political party. That way, we'd either get a transparent view of the internal workings of our political oligarchs, or we'd get the two best damn cybersecurity firms in the whole world to tap when needed.

Blogger DJ | AMDG December 19, 2019 12:17 AM  

Having read Tulsi’s statement I’m disappointed in her vote. I think there might be call to vote present, but she’s being dishonest by saying after having read the whole 600+ report she couldn’t vote for or against because of divisiveness. Had she said the report makes credible accusations but the process was flawed and completed too quickly, I might think her vote sincere. Had she flat out said she couldn’t in good conscience vote to impeach but likewise felt the partisan nature demand she not vote NO since that would imply support for Trump, I could believe her. But the thing is, she tied her vote to two conflicting factors. 1) having read the report and 2) any vote for or against increasing division. Either the report includes enough evidence or it doesn’t. Examining the report can only lead to a YEA or NAY. Further, the whole thing is divisive...on the part of the Dems who drove it. They could have just done the business of Congress. They could have worked to offer a more compelling vision and plan than Trump. Instead they have done nothing but be divisive. Why can’t she declare her commitment to the principles and platform of the Dems AND say this whole thing is a sham.

I’m disappointed.

Blogger Azimus December 19, 2019 12:19 AM  

I guess maybe I watched more TV in 1998, but it seems like ordinary people didn't give a fig about any of this and I doubt they will when the Senate votes it down. Heck I remember skipping classes to listen to the radio in college. Now it seems like people shrug their shoulders about it.

MAKING MY CALL: Expect at least one more "whistleblower" to come forward in the next few weeks, probably a few days before the senate vote.

This whole thing reeks of the Clintons and avenging Hillary's gay beard Bill.

GW had his daddy-avenging war in Iraq, now Hillary has her Bill-avenging impeachment.

Blogger Derrick Bonsell December 19, 2019 12:20 AM  

All I can say is that Trump doesn't seem at all humiliated. So why should you?

Blogger Hieroglyph December 19, 2019 12:24 AM  

It's hard to understand how educated people can be taking this peachmints nonsense remotely seriously. They can't all be spooks at The Guardian (though Viner likely is), so presumably some of their editors and slowpinioners have swallowed the kool aid. Weirdly gullible these journalists.

Anyhow, this is all good fun; political theatre. But no longer as effective in swaying the masses as it used to be. If it wasn't for rampant vote rigging, most of these clowns would lose their seats, which is a positive. No despair here.

Blogger Azimus December 19, 2019 12:32 AM  

This impeachment vote has given ordinary people on the left side of the spectrum and independents a perfectly reasonable excuse to vote for Trump and Trump Republicans next year.

I can't see the dems end game. Even if by some miracle they remove Trump the VP steps in... he's not exactly a closet lefty though he probably is pro-empire.

Blogger Azimus December 19, 2019 12:35 AM  

65. Shane BradmanDecember 18, 2019 10:48 PM
Amazing idea, Jim. Pelosi will wait as long as possible before giving the articles to the Senate


I'm no expert on Constitutional Law but some dude on Yahoo was saying they can pass a resolution rejecting it before its presented to them and end it right now.

But there may be some advantage in actually having the trial in a Republican-controlled Senate... and all that subpoena power...

Blogger Shane Bradman December 19, 2019 1:03 AM  

In the unrealistic circumstance that Trump is removed, what is the left going to do against Mike "Amperes for Queers" Pence?

Blogger Shane Bradman December 19, 2019 1:11 AM  

If this gets drawn out in the Senate for a long time, Warren and Sanders will be forced to postpone their campaigns in order to perform their duties as senators. This gives Biden a very big advantage for the Democrat nomination, and we all know how little chance Biden has against Trump. Plus there's all the voters they turned away and all the angry Republicans. What a huge blunder.

Blogger Joe Smith December 19, 2019 1:13 AM  

What a hilarious own goal. Democrats should really stop reading the New York Times. It's messing with their ability to apprehend reality.

Blogger Bill McGill December 19, 2019 1:27 AM  

Azimus wrote:
I can't see the dems end game. Even if by some miracle they remove Trump the VP steps in... he's not exactly a closet lefty though he probably is pro-empire.


There was no real end game when Nixon was removed, either. VP Gerald Ford was an amiable centrist, hardly conservative at all. When he took over, there was no change in policy.

Except in one very important regard: after Ford took over, South Vietnam surrendered to Communist North Vietnam. That NEVER would have happened if Nixon had still been president. Nixon spent his entire first term going to the mat for South Vietnam; he was not going to allow that country to fall on his watch.

I suspect that the way Nixon ended the Vietnam War was a major reason for his removal. Nixon's enemies hated him so much, they even wanted to destroy his accomplishment of having saved South Vietnam. And it makes sense too. Can you imagine if South Vietnam had survived? It was a poke in the eye to the anti-war movement -- a repudiation of everything it stood for. The liberal establishment couldn't stand that, so they used a 10-cent scandal like Watergate to force Nixon out, which allowed the communists to win the Vietnam War. Yes, liberals were that psychopathic, even back then.

Blogger Dani December 19, 2019 1:50 AM  

When will the "TRUMPSLIDE 2024" t-shirts be available?

Blogger Cetera December 19, 2019 2:12 AM  

Ominous Cowherd wrote:Cetera wrote:RBG is going to die soon. They can prevent the appointment of a replacement if the impeachment trial hasn't been wrapped up.

Can they? The Senate has been catering to Trump pretty consistently.

Cetera wrote:... they can invoke the Biden rule and prevent a SCOTUS appointment until after the 2020 elections.

As Jim said, the House can't invoke squat, because the Senate is going to make the decision. Unless Trump has carelessly failed to get the Senate under his control, he will be able to appoint judges right up until the day of the election. Trump isn't careless.


You're absolutely correct. Allow me to fix my mis-speaking and be more clear. That is their plan. They are trying to draw it out, stall, and gum up the works. It is a delay tactic. There will be other tactics used to try to delay further. It is up to Turtle McConnell in the Senate as to how effective any of it will be.

Blogger Salden December 19, 2019 2:21 AM  

Spare me the posters with the classic Right-Wing Victim Mentality.

This impeachment farce was never about removing Trump. It was about trying to cow him so that he'd do what they want. The cucks are so used to dealing with Repubs who are cucks themselves that the moment they face a man who actually fights back against them they call for impeachment so they can cow him or more extremely shame him into resigning Nixon-style.

Blogger JovianStorm December 19, 2019 2:48 AM  

All of this is evidence for treason trials... I'm hoping they start sometime next summer.

Blogger Ranger December 19, 2019 3:11 AM  

Is there any rule stating that the Senate has to wait for the House to send the Articles of Impeachment to start the trial? The Articles of Impeachment are on the public record, there shouldn't be, at a first glance, any obstacle for the Senate to just start the trial on them.

Blogger Joe December 19, 2019 3:56 AM  

"The letter he wrote to Pelosi makes me wonder if he's preparing some sort of legal backlash against her. I hope the Trump Curse kills that evil hag very soon."

I don't know what backlash they have in store for her, but they do have Glenn Simpson for lying to Congress, Christopher Steele for lying to the FBI, Bruce and Nellie Ohr for misleading Congress, Andrew McCabe, Peter Strzok, and Lisa Page for leaking to the press, and James Clapper for giving inconsistent testimony to Congress, which is what all this is really all about. The Democrats thought they had the next Watergate and broke rules to prove it. When they found out they had nothing, they went into full panic.

Blogger Lazarus December 19, 2019 5:19 AM  

One thing that always impressed me about the circus was how they could stuff so many clowns in one car.

Blogger Robert Pinkerton December 19, 2019 5:29 AM  

That batch of several tens of thousands of sealed indictments just waiting, reminds me of that secret circular that Philip the Fair of France sent round, to be opened for immediate action on Friday, 13 October 1307. Good-bye, Templars.

Blogger God Emperor Memes December 19, 2019 5:57 AM  

Fine, but what about her...uh...inhumation?

Blogger xevious2030 December 19, 2019 6:41 AM  

“They hate you.
They hate everything you stand for.
They hate everything associated with you.
They hate God.”

And that is it.

Blogger An Orthodox Christian December 19, 2019 6:45 AM  

Since the threshold for impeachment has been lowered and if the Rs maintain the Senate and take the House in 2020 Trumpslide, why not impeach every obstructionist, tresonist Federal judge,remove them from office and replace them with Constitutionalists?

Blogger rumpole5 December 19, 2019 7:07 AM  

I'm thinking that this whole ridiculous process (Kavanaugh 2.0 if you will) is what's necessary to expose and dispose of the cucksevative/rino backstabbing traitors in the Republican party. The level of outrage and exposure of their duplicity has to be so high that they have no choice but to deliver or leave. As for the Democrats, one can only hope that this disgusting display will make the McGovern debacle look like a summer outing. I hpoe that they join the Whigs in the dustbin. Final coffin nail!

Blogger Stilicho December 19, 2019 7:40 AM  

Stand by for BS lawsuit filed by dems alleging TGE is not eligible to be on ballot due to pending impeachment. The longer they can wait, the closer to election, the maximum damage they can do. Suit will be filed in favorable venue to draw leftist judge who will issue injunction declaring Trump ineligible and party/deep state loyalists will remove Trump from ballot in several states under the cover of following the blatantly illegal injunction, etc. Maximum chaos.

Blogger Damelon Brinn December 19, 2019 7:45 AM  

If they haven't sent the articles, the Senate just carries on confirming justices.

It could and hopefully will. But the Democrats keep thinking they can control reality via the media narrative. Blasey-Ford, Stormy, Muh Russia....they keep thinking if the media bangs a drum loud enough, it will stop or control Trump. This time, with Ginsburg probably down to hours, they think they can enforce a media narrative of "A president undergoing impeachment (in any sense) shouldn't be allowed to seat judges."

But as you say, all it takes to defeat that is for Senate Republicans to ignore the media and go ahead and do their job, as they did with Kavanaugh.

Blogger Leahn Novash December 19, 2019 7:50 AM  

I believe you realize two can play this game?

Blogger Karen took the Kids December 19, 2019 7:57 AM  

The irony is that this whole thing is turning public favour towards Trump. People are bored of these fucking simpletons and the deep state appear to be scrambling to cover up something. Trump needs to be more ruthless. He cannot follow the cuckservative MO.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd December 19, 2019 8:03 AM  

Joe wrote:I don't know what backlash they have in store for her, but they do have Glenn Simpson for lying to Congress, Christopher Steele for lying to the FBI, Bruce and Nellie Ohr for misleading Congress, Andrew McCabe, Peter Strzok, and Lisa Page for leaking to the press, and James Clapper for giving inconsistent testimony to Congress, which is what all this is really all about.
Trump has them. Now, what's he going to do with them?

Blogger Avalanche December 19, 2019 8:13 AM  

@91 "Democrats should really stop reading the New York Times. It's messing with their ability to apprehend reality."

So, your premise is the Demsy have EVER been able to apprehend reality?!

Really?

Blogger Leahn Novash December 19, 2019 8:17 AM  

They are not gullible. They are evil.

Blogger Avalanche December 19, 2019 8:22 AM  

@97 "for the Senate to just start the trial on them."

Then the Dems will continue to claim that "no true investigation" has been done. They were going to finally produce all that hard evidence they have been claiming for three years that they had, proving beyond a shadow-of-a-Mueller that Trump conspired with Russi... er ... Ukraine! That's it! With Ukraine!

I'd like to see the Senate start an investigation of the previous election: let's call Bernie into oath, and see if he still has any "they stole my election!" at the DNC and Hiltery! To say nothing of the illegals voting that has disappeared from discussion...

"Because you'd be in jail" was a promise I am still clinging to, trying to maintain my own morale.

Blogger Tars Tarkas December 19, 2019 9:02 AM  

Just one more great example of why our votes don't count. They don't care what we think. They do not accept the results of the election and if Trump wins in 2020, they're not going to accept the results there either.
If they were religious, they would be praying that RBG doesn't croak in the hopes that Trump won't get another SCOTUS appointment. They act as if it really matters who gets appointed. With traitors like Ken Star picking the appointees, we are guaranteed cucks. Kavanaugh has an all female staff. If he wasn't a cuck and had a lick of sense, his entire staff would be male.
Washington is just one big charade. They run it for their benefit, not ours. Our opinions about how the country should be run is completely irrelevant.

Blogger Richard Rahl December 19, 2019 9:10 AM  

The Ride Never Ends.

Blogger Dan in Georgia December 19, 2019 9:33 AM  

When Nancy Pelosi claimed she was praying for Trump, and he called bullshit on her, I knew he was going full nuclear.

I think he will want a full senate trial and boomerang it into indictments. If we see Comey, Holder, Brennan, & Clapper get subpoenas during the trial, this could last all summer.

Trump needs 51 votes to subpoena witnesses. He can probably get that from McConnell. But he only needs 34 to beat conviction. Keep an eye on the Mitten squishes and some of the dems like Joe Manchin. 51 votes may already be locked in.

Blogger Balkan Yankee December 19, 2019 10:00 AM  

The Democrats are pulling this stunt less than 11 months before the election.

They are idiots.

Blogger [Redacted] December 19, 2019 10:06 AM  

We have no border wall, armies that defend other countries, social programs that finance illegal immigration, a school systems that make people less capable, a legal system that defends predatory corporations, and social security that has forced Boomers to defend all this at the expense of their grandchildren.
If Americans can cut cable and cancel Netflix, they should be able to quit paying taxes and end this political theatre.

Blogger MrNiceguy December 19, 2019 12:14 PM  

A couple of years ago, I was speaking at an event. I included "Time 2006 Person of the Year" in the bio I submitted.

Blogger Al K. Annossow December 19, 2019 12:27 PM  

Donald Trump could get impeached for standing in the middle of 5th Avenue in New York and not lose any voters.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd December 19, 2019 12:58 PM  

Cetera wrote:They are trying to draw it out, stall, and gum up the works. It is a delay tactic. ... It is up to Turtle McConnell in the Senate as to how effective any of it will be.
I suspect that the Turtle will happily go along with anything that doesn't put his head on a pike. Confirm judges, including another Supreme? Probably. Call witnesses who incriminate the entire GOP? Probably not.

Blogger Scott December 19, 2019 2:32 PM  

If Trump is thrown out of office without a revolution, then revolution has always been a toothless threat.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd December 19, 2019 3:30 PM  

Scott wrote:If Trump is thrown out of office without a revolution, then revolution has always been a toothless threat.
The globohomo Left is confident that revolution has always been a toothless threat.

Blogger Long Live The West December 19, 2019 5:28 PM  

"Just one more great example of why our votes don't count."

That explains why Trump is on year 3/8 in office...

Blogger idprism December 20, 2019 12:44 AM  

Too soft. I say: "trump was asking for the investigation of a criminal who was laundering American tax dollars through his billionaire son and foreign corporations. The only reason Biden is running for president is to claim that he is somehow a political rival. Have you heard his speeches? He can't talk straight, maybe even think straight. He's no rival and everybody knows it".

Blogger John Rockwell December 20, 2019 5:24 AM  

Not related to impeachment but posting this here for visibility on the truth about the kurds:
https://roarmag.org/essays/rojava-after-rojava-oveisy/

Blogger DonReynolds December 20, 2019 11:35 AM  

Nancy Pig-lousy may be the latest version of the Queen of Hearts, from Alice in Wonderland. They both insist on the verdict (and sentence) BEFORE the trial (or any evidence is heard, even before the crime is charged). That has always struck me as particularly odd. How is it possible to know how House members will vote on impeachment, before the charge is laid and any evidence is presented? Now these are the same people who are demanding a "fair trial" in the US Senate, having avoided even the appearance or forma of fairness in their own proceedings.

Of course, none of this has anything to do with American Justice, which rests on two foundation stones....presumption of innocence and a fair trial. In the case of Mr. Trump, we get the assumption of guilt and no fairness or openness in the least. Thus far, the witnesses have appeared in the Star Chamber gagged, with cloth sacks over their head...only able to nod to everything specified by the Prosecutor. No defense has been permitted and defense witnesses and evidence is not allowed. And no one can examine (or cross examine) the secret witnesses, who thus far have not admitted to witnessing anything. The Democrats have sucked out their own credibility, without any assistance from the Republicans.

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