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Sunday, December 29, 2019

Conservatives wave the white flag... again

Rod Dreher does what conservatives do best, surrender. Now they're waving the white flag in the culture war:
Chick-fil-A proved that no matter what nasty things your enemies said about you, if you held your head high and continued doing good work, you would succeed. With so many American businesses and institutions capitulating to the woke mob, Chick-fil-A’s quiet, lonely resistance was inspiring.

It all came crashing down in mid-November, when the company quietly announced it was changing its giving priorities. No longer would it donate to the Salvation Army and the Fellowship of Christian Athletes, two charities that activists slammed as gay-haters. Chick-fil-A did not say outright that it was cutting off ‘anti-LGBT’ charities, but for anyone half-literate in reading public relations statements, it was clear they were doing exactly that.

It’s hard to overstate the symbolic importance of this move. For one, Chick-fil-A’s white flag meant that it accepted the vicious slander that the venerable Salvation Army, of all organizations, is a hate group. More importantly, Chick-fil-A was not pressured by financial losses to back down. It did so from a position of strength — hence the stunning demoralization of conservatives. If even one of the great financial success stories in American retailing would not hold out against leftist campaigners, what hope do the rest of us have to thrive in a highly ideologized public square?

Mind you, Chick-fil-A’s opening toward armistice will not buy it peace. The fast-food giant will now be shaken down so hard by gay groups seeking ‘reparations’ that its corporate teeth will rattle — and that still won’t be enough. LGBT activists will not rest until they have strangled the last Evangelical wedding-cake baker with the entrails of the last homophobic farm fowl.

However, in US culture war terms, Chick-fil-A’s surrender really is a Germans-marching-down-the-Champs-Élysées moment for the right. The conflict, which roughly dates from the late 1960s, has moved from a combat phase to a life-under-occupation period. Though the craven capitulation of a Christian-run corporation as successful as Chick-fil-A must shatter the delusions of the most ardent dead-enders, in truth the culture war was definitively lost five years ago.
What a total load of nonsense. Not only are we not surrendering, we are taking the offensive! The Promethean forces have been reeling since 2016, weakened from within and from without, under assault from the god-emperor, from China, from Russia, and from the Men of the West.

Never pay any heed to a conservative. They are cowards, cucks, and capitulants.

And never forget. All we need is twelve.

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97 Comments:

Blogger Silent Draco December 29, 2019 6:23 PM  

Wait a sec; yeah, there it is. Next quarter is ready.

Dreher and co. are too busy finding nickels in the field.

Blogger John Rockwell December 29, 2019 6:28 PM  

Rod has a soyface. Its clear this is going to happen.

He has done this before in cucking.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash December 29, 2019 6:29 PM  

Dreher's just looking for an excuse to be a collaborator.

Blogger Jim the Curmudgeon December 29, 2019 6:40 PM  

Well, the culture war was lost 5 years ago. Guess it is time to pack it in.

In his next column, Dreher will be joined by Ben Shapiro and Charlie Kirk in order to argue that it is time for conservative men to drop the taboo against dating women with penises. After all, the culture war is lost. As long as your girlfriend has a female penis, you can still hold your head high as a member of Turning Point USA. Followed by a sympathetic portrayal of NAMBLA and a fundraising appeal for the IDF.


Blogger qualitycontrol December 29, 2019 6:43 PM  

How to spot a Conservative: Look for cheap shot Nazi references to explain everything. God are these people worse than useless.

Blogger Steve Canyon December 29, 2019 6:46 PM  

If they're the Germans marching down the Champs Elysee, we're the resistance, we will win, and if they are lucky their heads will get shaved instead of added to the throne of skulls.

Blogger tuberman December 29, 2019 6:47 PM  

Rod Dreher Despair Merchant Shill.

Blogger Mad Italian December 29, 2019 6:48 PM  

Never did find a hill to die on did he?

Blogger Joe Smith December 29, 2019 6:48 PM  

Dreher is all about bow ties and fancypants. All they have to do is run him some decent press in the NYT, give him some think-tank pats on the head, and he'll do anything. I'd say he was a turn-coat, but that would overstate his prior service.

Blogger God Emperor Memes December 29, 2019 6:48 PM  

At least he was critical of CfA for C(l)ucking.

Blogger Sambuca_Ford December 29, 2019 6:55 PM  

It's a chicken joint. Not Thermopylae.

As has been posted here countless times, nothing has been conserved.

Like the Air Raid offense, if you can put 50 on 'em, go for 70. OFF-ense!!

Blogger tuberman December 29, 2019 7:07 PM  

God Emperor Memes wrote:At least he was critical of CfA for C(l)ucking.

It's the way he was critical, as he used that to spread the idea of total defeat. Despair Agents are similar, but worse than Concern Trolls. Using despair was a major tactic for the KGB, and it's what worked the best.

He's a POS.

Blogger Weak December 29, 2019 7:07 PM  

I actually hope these conservatives like Dreher are paid off controlled opposition. It is loathsome and disgusting to consider that they actually think like this.

Blogger Rek. December 29, 2019 7:10 PM  

My sentiment exactly.

Blogger Damelon Brinn December 29, 2019 7:19 PM  

He doesn't even make sense. He admits the company wasn't forced to cave in by financial pressure, that it was still strong. But then he wonders how anyone else can stand up to them. Stand up to what? They weren't forced; it was someone's choice. Anyone who simply refuses to cave in can stand up to them just as Chick-fil-A could have continued to. To use his tortured analogy, the Germans didn't march down any street; just one French general announced he wouldn't oppose them if they did.

Dreher gave up years ago. Last thing he wants is for others to prove he didn't have to.

@4 Jim, When Dreher wrote _Crunchy Cons_, he found Catholic, Protestant, and Jewish groups that were living the sort of Amish-lite lifestyle he wanted to promote. He was very proud of the ecumenism of it. If he'd written it 10 years later, I'm convinced he would have found some "conservative" Muslims for another chapter. If he wrote it today, he'd surely find a commune of gays and trannies to feature.

Blogger M Cephas December 29, 2019 7:22 PM  

"Life-under-occupation", "definitively lost five years ago".

He had me almost believing that for a second. Before Vox Day slapped the despair out of me.

We've actually been winning so much over the last few years that the enemy for the first time in my life, looks genuinely afraid.

Blogger Dole December 29, 2019 7:24 PM  

Leftists - Rainbow flag.
Conservatives - White flag.
Real Americans - American flag.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash December 29, 2019 7:25 PM  

Damelon Brinn wrote:If he'd written it 10 years later, I'm convinced he would have found some "conservative" Muslims for another chapter. If he wrote it today, he'd surely find a commune of gays and trannies to feature.
You have him pegged exactly. Which is what he secretly longs for.

Blogger Dan in Georgia December 29, 2019 7:29 PM  

CFA's franchisees are losing customers that may never return. Replacing the Salvation Army with the SPLC, ADL, etc was a huge betrayal. When CFA runs ads on twitter they are getting mostly replies telling them they won't be eating there anymore. So, what they have accomplished is to drive away their customers while not satisfying their haters. Not a good business model.

Blogger Kiwi December 29, 2019 7:33 PM  

This guy would happily compromise on anything and then go home and bitch about it to his husband.

Blogger Al K. Annossow December 29, 2019 7:57 PM  

In the past, the culture war WAS almost lost and God stepped in to stop it. Remember Noah and the flood? Tower of Babel? Sodom and Gomorrah?

And why isn't He doing that now? Because we got this! God'll help in not-so-obvious ways, but this is merely a battle that is within our abilities, within our best interests, and within our responsibilities. Unlike, Rod, don't wait until the entire town is knocking at your door to 'have relations' with those for whom you are responsible.

Blogger Beardy Bear December 29, 2019 8:02 PM  

"You mean, all I have to do is lose, and you'll give me those fancy pants, and those lollipops over there?"

Blogger Tanjil Bren December 29, 2019 8:10 PM  

Virtually everything coming from the 'left' of late reeks of panic and disarray. These people *always* overreach and *always* overestimate their power and influence. For example, it's been absolutely hilarious just watching the 'Trans' movement (all seven of them) beat the previously all powerful LGB vanguard literally senseless. (Trans' turn next.)
No one is in control. Not anymore. And now they're all just managing to look insane.
This really is ours to win.

Blogger Robert Browning December 29, 2019 8:13 PM  

A conservative is a homosexual Nazi that loves Jews.

Blogger CitizenOutkast December 29, 2019 8:22 PM  

I don't think conservatives want to win as much as they want to bitch and moan and play the victim. Before I was thrown off Teapartycommunity.com for "racism" (nationalism, actually), I promoted Castalia House and other VD efforts, and they weren't interested. Loved virtue signaling the hell out of being followers of the melting pot and "ev'rybody cin be an American," but that's about it. They'd import Muslim rapists happily as long as they were legal, because if they're legal, they're automatically True Americans. The things they'd have to do in order to win back the US they claimed to want were distasteful and repulsive to them. Of course, they were all ready to shoot cops and soldiers, "when that line in the sand is crossed," but yeah, all talk.

Blogger papabear December 29, 2019 8:26 PM  

Dreher on his weighted blanket https://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/the-magic-blanket/

Blogger Rough Carrigan December 29, 2019 8:30 PM  

This is the guy who has said that his whole life was ruined by other kids threatening to pants him in public when he was a high schooler?

Shocking that such a tower of strength and resilience would reflexively give in.

Blogger VFM #7634 December 29, 2019 8:32 PM  

Not a good business model.

I guess Dan Cathy needed his virtue-signaling crack high that badly.

Blogger Balam December 29, 2019 8:33 PM  

To paraphrase, ''Iy we were losing the culture war they wouldn't need to pay Rod Dreher to tell us otherwise''

Blogger Lazarus December 29, 2019 8:34 PM  

cook.your own. damn. chicken.

Blogger TontoBubbaGoldstein December 29, 2019 8:50 PM  

Chick-fil-A’s surrender really is a Germans-marching-down-the-Champs-Élysées moment for the right.

Seems like that only lasted about 4 years for the swastika folks. Reckon the SJWs will be huddled in the burnt out Reich Chancellery before the end of the GE's second term with the survivors on trial at Nuremberg in Don Jr.'s first term?

Blogger Nathan Hornok December 29, 2019 9:05 PM  

Occupied territory? Maybe so. But no one is having more fun than the underground resistance army. And the occupiers are terrified from the enemies without and within that are dissolving their power faster than the Gretard can say "how dare you."

Blogger Hammer December 29, 2019 9:06 PM  

Cuckservatives not knowing how to fight, again. They don't learn.


offtopic: I disrupted the Darkstream chat withby asking questions that had nothing to do with the topic. I'm sorry, I shouldn't have done that and won't do it again

Blogger Servant December 29, 2019 9:10 PM  

Major corporations like chik fil a exist solely to do this. It's primary purpose was to serve as a cuck from strength giant.

Cook your own chicken is right

Blogger phunktor December 29, 2019 9:15 PM  

Glynn Stewart? Is that you ?

Blogger Akuma December 29, 2019 9:16 PM  

"Leftists-Rainbow flag"

GTFO!

"I do set my bow in the cloud, and it shall be for a token of a covenant between me and the earth." Genesis 9:13

Blogger White Knight Leo #0368 December 29, 2019 9:25 PM  

I'd chalk this up to more of a blinkered mind - Dreher's circle of interest/understanding is too limited to see outside of this defeat.

Or maybe he is just a defeatist.

Blogger Valley Forge Patriot December 29, 2019 9:33 PM  

This is the time to remember the Spartans! Small in number, they put the hurt to Xerxes army of millions. Imagine George Soros as Xerxes and VD as King Leonidas and you get the picture. Raise up your shields and swords, Spartans! It is going to be fun!

https://youtu.be/cAacE5ukzrs

Blogger bodenlose Schweinerei December 29, 2019 9:34 PM  

Chick-fil-A’s surrender really is a Germans-marching-down-the-Champs-Élysées moment for the right

Roddy may have stumbled into the right analogy here, though for the wrong reasons: that march upon the Elysian Fields was the high point of the war for the Nazis, because when the winter of '41 came and they lost the battle for Moscow then the Americans joined in for realsies, the jig was up.

Blogger Lazarus December 29, 2019 9:42 PM  

Akuma wrote:"Leftists-Rainbow flag"

GTFO!

"I do set my bow in the cloud, and it shall be for a token of a covenant between me and the earth." Genesis 9:13


It is Satan's counterfeit. One of many.

God’s Rainbow

God created the rainbow and it belongs to Him. God’s rainbow has seven colors. Interestingly, according to Strong’s Dictionary, even the word “rainbow” has seven letters (qesheth). God’s rainbow represents His goodness, His mercy and grace, His love and longsuffering, and, most of all, it is a reminder that His promises are true and faithful. The true rainbow will never represent, nor can it ever celebrate, any sinful behavior.

I hope you’ll never look at the LGBT flag in the same way again. It is NOT a rainbow flag, falling short with only six colors. And it certainly does not represent God’s rainbow. The LGBT community uses a multi-colored flag that falls short in every way….especially in what it represents.


Six. Denotes the human number. Man was created on the sixth day; and this first occurrence of the number makes it (and all multiples of it) the hall-mark of all connected with man. He works six days. The hours of his day are a multiple of six. Athaliah usurped the throne of Judah six years. The great men who have stood out in defiance of God (Goliath and Nebuchadnezzar and Antichrist) are all emphatically marked by this number.

Seven. Denotes spiritual perfection. It is the number or hall-mark of the Holy Spirit's work. He is the Author of God's Word, and seven is stamped on it as the water-mark is seen in the manufacture of paper. He is the Author and Giver of life; and seven is the number which regulates every period of Incubation and Gestation, in insects, birds, animals, and man.

Blogger xevious2030 December 29, 2019 9:43 PM  

“before the end of the GE's second term with the survivors on trial at Nuremberg in Don Jr.'s first term?“

Whatever works.

Blogger Wario's Mart December 29, 2019 9:44 PM  

He's a cuck face. He also is a prime example of disigenuous troll labelling to suppress speech contrary to his beliefs.

The American Conservative relentlessly deletes any comments that criticise their capitulations, cowardice and stupidity.

Blogger Pathfinderlight December 29, 2019 9:47 PM  

I sense a new opening in the American chicken sandwich market quite soon.

Blogger Doktor Jeep December 29, 2019 9:52 PM  

Conservatives are very good at writing articles like that.
Probably because they have been practicing with the same template for decades.

Blogger Peter Millen December 29, 2019 9:54 PM  

The culture was is like any war. You are going to lose some battles and win some battles. At this point, people on the right should follow Sun Tzu's admonition to strike weakness and avoid strength. The right to life front is a weak front of the left and the right is making steady progress. And Trump may replace Ruth Bader Ginsberg as a SCOTUS judge. While the "USA LGBT front" is a stronghold, the LGBT battle has it weaknesses (the countries that still opposes the homosexual agenda and transexual fake women taking away trophies).

Blogger Lazarus December 29, 2019 9:58 PM  

O.T. but the opposite of defeatism and more support for the Q narrative:

Zuesse: Russiagate Investigation Now Endangers Obama

Blogger Dan in Georgia December 29, 2019 10:11 PM  

VFM #7634 wrote:Not a good business model.

I guess Dan Cathy needed his virtue-signaling crack high that badly.


There's a reason Truett Cathy hung around until almost 90 before handing it over to his son. We're seeing why now.

Blogger furor kek tonicus ( no need to be racist, Ratchets can Karen better than anybody ) December 29, 2019 10:15 PM  

20. Kiwi December 29, 2019 7:33 PM
This guy would happily compromise on anything and then go home and bitch about it to his husband.


this is an original "cuckservative".

he'd go home and bitch about it to his wife's son's dad the next time wifey was getting picked up for date night.

Blogger Stilicho December 29, 2019 10:15 PM  

Dreher has always been a coward (see his description of his adolescent cowardice) and his writings are one long excuse for his continued cowardice and a despairing plea for others to join him in cowardly preemptive surrender so he won't feel so alone or be so noticeable for his cowardice. May he live a thousand years. Preferably silent. If we have any luck, he will soon espouse a "Trappist Option".

Blogger Sterling Pilgrim December 29, 2019 10:37 PM  

It is a blessing that we are witness - and in some cases active participant - to times like these.
Rejoice also for our sons, who perhaps will find this war and their victory a saving Grace, rescuing them from idleness and comfort, which we all know is just an uneventful path to hell.
Now, when I speak to my kids of dragons, I will speak of actual monsters, and they will know exactly where to aim their strikes.

Blogger Cataline Sergius December 29, 2019 10:43 PM  

Never forget Rod Dreher is Gamma Male. And Gamma Males avoid conflict like the plague.

So of course he goes on and on about how the Culture War is lost.

After all, there is no sense in fighting if the war is over.

Blogger tdcommenter December 29, 2019 10:46 PM  

A quick skim of Dreher's article just reminded me of why I chip into the Infogalactic burn unit, Unauthorized & Replatform.

Blogger Cataline Sergius December 29, 2019 10:52 PM  

Where his Benedict Option falls apart is when some Churchian SJW moves into one of his communes and starts "organizing."

He has no mechanism in place for forcibly expelling them. It's the thing he doesn't dare think of.

Blogger Gallant December 29, 2019 11:04 PM  

There are - ahem - nuggets of good information in there. SJW orgs are likely doing further shakedown, as that's their permanent operating mode.

It may be worth it to campaign to them about their support. I remember when the 'boycott' against them turned into a line of (christian or so-allied) supporters lining up so deep they blocked 3 lanes - may pay to remind them. I have thrown them the nod on the arbitrary decision of where to buy based on their standing up to SJWs - others must look at them that way too.

Just saying - we don't give up the war for western civilization, maybe also we shouldn't give up the war for Chick-Fil-A. . . .

Blogger Statix December 29, 2019 11:38 PM  

Remember the 300.

Blogger damaris.tighe December 29, 2019 11:45 PM  

Jim the Curmudgeon wrote:Dreher will be joined by Ben Shapiro and Charlie Kirk in order to argue that it is time for conservative men to drop the taboo against dating women with penises

They should go first.

Blogger Servant December 29, 2019 11:55 PM  

Right daningeorgia. It's not a good business model. It's a fucking terrible business model. Just like my phone is a terrible horse.

1 under no pressure they capitulate to nothing
2 there is a bunch of examples how this capitulation does nothing for your bottom line, and probably just hurts you.

This decision had nothing to do with business. Company has a long history of leaving money on the table in order to uphold their principles and everyone calls this a bad business decision.

Their next move will be to allow their franchisees to be open on Sunday, voluntarily. Maybe even a pay incentive for employees

Blogger Boomer55 December 30, 2019 12:12 AM  

@13
I think it is likely. One has to be an idiot or a liar if one thinks history only goes back 100 years. Degeneracy is not new, and it IS MENTIONED IN THE BIBLE!

Blogger Kegs December 30, 2019 12:16 AM  

"All we need is twelve." What is meant?

Blogger furor kek tonicus ( no need to be racist, Ratchets can Karen better than anybody ) December 30, 2019 12:21 AM  

i can't imagine this working as i expect that franchisee contracts share similarities with EULAs but
...
would it be possible for the Chick-Fil-A franchises to leave association with the parent company due to corporate malfeasance or moral turpitude?

Blogger Bibliotheca Servare December 30, 2019 1:44 AM  

@Kegs

It's a reference to the twelve disciples of Christ Jesus.

There were only 12 Christians at the beginning, and one of them was a traitor, one repeatedly denied his relationship with our Lord because he allowed his fear to overpower his faith, and one doubted the truth of the Resurrection until he was permitted to actually put his fingers in the holes that were left when the nails pierced Jesus' blessed and holy flesh as he was hung upon the Cross.

Nonetheless, excepting Judas, the hateful traitor, every one of these men was blessed with the gifts of the Holy Spirit, and commanded to increase their number by making "disciples of all nations".

Those 11 men, plus Paul, obeyed that command, and the Gospel of Christ survives to this day because of their faithful, tireless efforts.

He started with 12, and they were enough. Who are we to insist that 12 would be insufficient if the faith and knowledge of Christ were to somehow vanish from the rest of the earth, or be warped into unrecognizable heresy in all the rest of the world except the hearts and souls of 12, imperfect men?

Blogger furor kek tonicus ( no need to be racist, Ratchets can Karen better than anybody ) December 30, 2019 1:52 AM  

59. Kegs December 30, 2019 12:16 AM
"All we need is twelve." What is meant?



https://infogalactic.com/info/Apostle_%28Christian%29

Blogger Monotonous Languor December 30, 2019 1:54 AM  

It never once occurs to this guy that his side of Cowardly Clueless Cuckservatives has been “from the late 1960's”, primarily responsible for the situation in which he now finds himself. Chutzpah, thy name is Dreher. If he had any honor, he'd slink away somewhere and commit seppuku.

Blogger Dire Badger December 30, 2019 2:06 AM  

I think George Takei is a very brave man. He was the first member of the old Star Trek cast to come out of the closet as a complete asshole.

Blogger Amethyst Dominica December 30, 2019 2:09 AM  

I say we should listen to this Grima Wormtongue fellow! He's always been right about the Orcs before!

Blogger God Emperor Memes December 30, 2019 2:17 AM  

Yes, I understand that he's basically Despair-Pilling but as I said, at least he was critical of them rather than simply accepting/praising their capitulation to the Gaystapo.

Blogger Honingbij December 30, 2019 5:03 AM  

Repugnant. I'm ashamed that he's Eastern Orthodox.

Blogger Clay December 30, 2019 6:01 AM  

VD, I understand your disdain for "Conservatives" They are piss.

But...what is the alternative?

Blogger jkmack December 30, 2019 6:13 AM  

Rod Dreher writes columns like this to justify his excrement compacting exercises with lefties, abaft the communal refuse bin.

Blogger Gettimothy December 30, 2019 6:42 AM  

I aws reading the article muttering "bulshit" and choicer expletives during the read. got to Dreher at the byline and started laughing.


God is true and Dreher does not speak for us.


Blogger Bogey December 30, 2019 7:03 AM  

The Crispy Colonel is a better sandwich, and KFC still respects their founder.

Blogger Peter Millen December 30, 2019 7:10 AM  

There is an optimistic Christian conservative with a spine on YouTube. His name is Steve Turley. It is his Christianity that gives him a spine and optimism. He also knows that right-wing nationalism is growing and liberals/leftist/seculars have sub-replacement levels of fertility. Errant/lying ideologies have a way of collapsing under their own weight (Nazis, Soviet Union, etc.).

Blogger Peter Millen December 30, 2019 7:22 AM  

I read Rod Dreyer's article. He seems to accept uncritically what some left of center mouthpieces say (for example, Pew Forum on the supposed rapid decline of Christianity in recent years). There is some evidence that Christianity is not getting weaker in the USA in recent years (see: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f97UVNaR1y8 ). Anyways, Rod Dreher makes me want to puke.

Blogger Avalanche December 30, 2019 7:48 AM  

@61 "excepting Judas, the hateful traitor,"

I don't understand this attitude/description, which is everywhere in Christianity. Without Judas there is no crucifixion, no resurrection, no Christianity. Did not God HIMSELF lay out the path for Judas? SO many folks castigate Judas as "not a disciple, a hateful traitor" -- did not JESUS accept him as a disciple? Did not Jesus know in advance who would betray him? If Jesus KNEW this, why did he not kick Judas out? Did not Jesus NEED to be betrayed as part of God's plan?!

I suppose it's the 'wistful non-Christian' thing again... I'm looking for logic and sense because I don't have faith.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan December 30, 2019 7:53 AM  

I want to say Rod is low Delta but I know in my heart he would Gamma in a heartbeat if his rice bowl was threatened.

Anyway his AmCon work is controlled by women, the comments sections following his work always place by comment #2 a woman laying down the gate keeping law on the thread.

Blogger mmaier2112 December 30, 2019 8:12 AM  

I don't get the point of Dreher even writing this drivel. Is he proud of his surrender? Is he glad of corporations running the world?

What "good" is he fooling himself into thinking that he's doing?

Blogger Gettimothy December 30, 2019 8:29 AM  

@74 sounds like you are wrestling with "the problem of evil". my unsolicited advise: "talk to God about it" relying always on the atonement at Calvary . My experience is that He eagerly awaits your engagement with Him. Its not easy, but it is true.

good luck.

Blogger Gallant December 30, 2019 9:13 AM  

This group is more and more obviously making a fast beeline toward the target and the prize they've had all along, children. People are noticing, and noticing that all the other 'tolerance' has led to this point. I used to see the people warning as just intolerant prudes concerned over nothing. . . and I can't be alone in realizing now what a mistake that was.

Blogger Student in Blue December 30, 2019 10:01 AM  

@74. Avalanche

Just because someone's evil actions were used by someone else towards a good end, does not make an evil action good. Heck, using the results of actions towards a good end does not necessarily make any action good.

Breaking eggs to make an omelette. Omelettes are good, but breaking eggs is not inherently good.
A woman is raped, and in the midst of her suffering you comfort her and in her suffering she finds faith in Jesus. Her rape is still not good.
Judas betrayed Jesus. Even though His crucifixion was necessary, that does not make the betrayal good.

And just because you know someone is absolutely going to do something, doesn't mean you are responsible for when they do it.

Uncle So-and-So drinks way too much. By necessity, we're having an open bar for a wedding for whatever reason, and Uncle So-and-So is invited. As we expected, Uncle So-and-So causes a scene. That is entirely the uncle's fault, even if afterwards you had a plan that if he was going to do so, you would shock him into going into Alcoholics Anonymous.

Uh, and to keep it on topic... never read Dreher all that much. For some reason I thought he wasn't that much of a cuckservative, but I stand humbly corrected.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd December 30, 2019 10:31 AM  

Avalanche wrote:Did not Jesus know in advance who would betray him? If Jesus KNEW this, why did he not kick Judas out? Did not Jesus NEED to be betrayed as part of God's plan?!
Av, God always knows what Satan is going to do, always makes Satan's actions part of His plan. That doesn't mean Satan is going to be forgiven.

God WILL use you. He will use you the way he used the Apostles if you let Him do it His way, or you can defy Him and He will use you on your way to Hell. He lets you choose.

Blogger Shrugger December 30, 2019 12:20 PM  

If you are Rod Dreher, there are no hills to die on.

Blogger Al K. Annossow December 30, 2019 12:50 PM  

Regarding Judas and allowing evil in general ...
One imperfect analogy that might make sense to some, is that children are given appropriate amounts of freedom even though parents know that children sometimes choose wrongly in things pertaining to physical safety and moral rectitude. Think of it as helicopter parents and oppressive governments vs personal freedom and responsibility. Also, our own constraint of being bound by time causes us to confuse issues concerning foreknowledge, predestination, and free will; human thinking is the pinnacle of only the Earthly domain. And Judas's betrayal was worse because he had warning about it. Even the 'good thief' on the cross next to Jesus could still recognize the goodness of Jesus despite the violent condemnation against both of them.

Blogger SirHamster December 30, 2019 2:16 PM  

Avalanche wrote:I don't understand this attitude/description, which is everywhere in Christianity. Without Judas there is no crucifixion, no resurrection, no Christianity. Did not God HIMSELF lay out the path for Judas?
Judas chose the path of destruction.

The toilet paper you use after doing your business is more innocent, but you'd still flush it after it's been used.

Some things are devoted to destruction. The why is less important than your choice: Do you want life or death? God will find a use and fate fitting for your choice.

Act justly, love mercy.

Blogger Jandolin December 30, 2019 4:44 PM  

Neocons denounced Jacques Chirac and the French as "cheese eating surrender monkeys" for opposition to the Iraq war. Conservatives Inc, lackeys of the neocons, are soy eating surrender monkeys in the culture war.

Blogger furor kek tonicus ( no need to be racist, Ratchets can Karen better than anybody ) December 30, 2019 9:57 PM  

68. Clay December 30, 2019 6:01 AM
But...what is the alternative?



Christianity.

Nationalism.

in the US, better adherence to Constitution rather than the tyranny of the black robes.

Blogger Akuma December 30, 2019 10:11 PM  

"And just because you know someone is absolutely going to do something, doesn't mean you are responsible for when they do it.

Uncle So-and-So drinks way too much. By necessity, we're having an open bar for a wedding for whatever reason, and Uncle So-and-So is invited. As we expected, Uncle So-and-So causes a scene. That is entirely the uncle's fault, even if afterwards you had a plan that if he was going to do so, you would shock him into going into Alcoholics Anonymous."

Did you ever consider the possibility of not inviting him? Oh wait, hes MUH FAMILY and we can't do that to FAMILY.

So...if your wife cheats on you its your fault because you broke frame? No you just married a filthy whore.

If you hit a deer in your car its your fault? I guess you're the deer whisperer then.

Blogger map December 30, 2019 10:17 PM  

Chick-fil-A should start calling itself the "Dixie Chick Filet" once they realize what path they are on. Maybe the management team could pull off a naked Rolling Stone cover, where they "come out" as a "pop restaurant chain" instead of a "country chicken" act.

Blogger Red Raven December 31, 2019 2:12 AM  

Whenever, Vox says ‘all we need is twelve’ I get shivers - the truth does that! After listening to Vox and the Big Bear, and getting to know Christ the Saviour, I am more hopeful than ever!

Blogger Red Raven December 31, 2019 3:17 AM  

Whenever, Vox says ‘all we need is twelve’ I get shivers - the truth does that! After listening to Vox and the Big Bear, and getting to know Christ the Saviour, I am more hopeful than ever!

Blogger jkmack December 31, 2019 6:59 AM  

@74 Do you really think that God "needs" anything? He put Judas to a choice, Judas chose poorly. Do you think that there wasnt some other path God would take had Judas chosen wisely?

Everyday you use your God given gift to model the future, from prior experience, received wisdom, or just fantasy. From the times when you enter the four way intersect with the faith that all the other cars are going to respect the lights or signage, to the perception that you are living on a globe (whether we are or not is not the point, the point is you have not proved it for yourself, you take it on faith from others), to the fact that you dont have a winters worth of wood stacked up in the yard, because you fully expect the utilities to perform at 99%+ up time, or timely delivery of fuel, on faith.

But you cannot muster up the faith for the singularly most important thing in the universe?

That is on you bro. Not God.

Blogger Rebel Shoat December 31, 2019 10:00 AM  

If "Chick-fil-A’s surrender really is a Germans-marching-down-the-Champs-Élysées moment" then he is Petain. Issue your mea culpas early enough in the war and the winners let you keep some of your status and position.

Blogger Revelation Means Hope December 31, 2019 11:09 PM  

Judas chose to betray Jesus. The other 11 disciples ran away, including Peter denying him 3 times with swearing.

Judas was fulfilling prophecy, but he was a disciple who chose to follow Jesus and grafted himself into the inner circle. Jesus selected and called the other disciples at His Father's direction.

Rather than repenting and seeking forgiveness for betraying his Master, Judas instead killed himself. Could Jesus have forgiven him? Well, we will never know because Judas chickened out and didn't have the guts to throw himself at Jesus' feet and beg forgiveness.

Blogger Revelation Means Hope December 31, 2019 11:12 PM  

Regarding Rod, I have less and less tolerance for the black pill mindset, and seek to guide people's gaze back to Christ whenever possible in real life encounters. Vox has been a great example to us by acknowledging that the nation of the United States is dead and has been decomposing for quite some time, but that civilization is not lost and we need to be ready to rebuild and train the next generation or two or three to keep the flame burning.

Blogger Unknown January 02, 2020 12:01 PM  

Chcck fil A should have just given $$$ to gun control groups and the leftist mob would have left them alone.. Toatally worked for wal-mart. they stopped selling certain guns and ammo, said some gun control platitudes and magically they are not the enemy of the left anymore. They still do everything else the left claims ot hate, but as long as they toe the guntrol line, they get a pass. US corporations are worse thatn cnservative politicians. Cowardly weaklings.

Blogger Sweet One January 04, 2020 1:43 AM  

I don't see why they never understand that cucking doesn't work.

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