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Friday, December 20, 2019

Little Nicky debate challenge, take three

A Nickler pushes a false narrative:
It is very telling that Vox Day 'challenges' Nick Fuentes to debate when Nick is also streaming. He doesn't have the decency...balls....to ask Nick himself. He streams it and waits for people to send Nick messages about it livr on his own streams. It shows Vox is a snake.
 Dear Nick

I have been informed that you are willing to debate me so long as the subject is not related to the Holocaust. Very well. I propose a written debate concerning your following assertion:

Americans have to live with multiracialism.

I suggest we limit our entries to 2,500 words each, with no more than three entries apiece. As you will be arguing in the affirmative, I am willing to let you have the first word. I also suggest that we agree either party is permitted to publish the entire debate verbatim.

Please email me your first entry at your earliest convenience. I will post it at my blog without modification or comment.

Regards,

Vox

Another Nickler pushed another false narrative:
Vox Day didn't want to debate.  That's why he made it a written debate on a topic Nick isn't interested in.  He's afraid of Nick's ability to use rhetoric which is why he wanted to make it in writing
To which I responded by sending the following email to Nick Fuentes:

Dear Nick,

A number of your followers apparently believe I am afraid to debate you live online because you are, and I quote, "a master of rhetoric". This is not even remotely true. I don't fear you in the slightest.

So, I am happy to challenge you to a live debate on the same subject I previously suggested, namely, your contention that Americans have to live with multiracialism.

If you would like to do it on the Killstream with Ethan Ralph, that is fine with me.

Regards,

Vox

Does anyone seriously doubt that Little Nicky will behave exactly like Ben Shapiru and run away a third time? I don't give a flying fragment of an airborne rodent's posterior about him, and I certainly don't fear a disrespectful little would-be media whore who doesn't have my education, my experience, or my intelligence.

He can make all the excuses he wants about optics, irrelevance, or hirsuteness. But everyone knows perfectly well why he is running away from me. I truly don't care if he shows up to debate or if he doesn't. If he does, I'll deal with him exactly like I've dealt with every previous opponent. If he doesn't, he'll continue to be completely irrelevant to me.

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83 Comments:

Blogger RE December 20, 2019 3:59 PM  

Isn't he essentially Benji but with a supposedly alt-right view.

Blogger Mauldication Bear December 20, 2019 4:02 PM  

He's just having a hard time fitting you in around all the milking sessions with Mama.

Blogger Storm Rhode December 20, 2019 4:03 PM  

Vox, don't let Nick's gammas yank your chain. If Nick calls you out, answer of course. Responding to his gammas is a waste of your time. Some of us are waiting to buy that book you're writing.

Blogger Al K. Annossow December 20, 2019 4:18 PM  

People want heroes. I get that. But people need to learn, and learn young, that any chosen hero cannot and will not be their hero for everything. Learn from heroes whatever that hero has to teach you, incorporate it into your own life, and stop comparing that hero to any of his alternatives. Have multiple heroes for multiple qualities and swap out heroes as you improve yourself.

Decades ago, a neighbor kid waited until I got home from work, bicycle as fast as he could over to my house, and ask "Are you taller than my Dad?" That is how these people sound. But that kid was only four. Nick's followers need to grow up. They are like fan girls swooning at a rock concert. Listen to the music if you like it. Or use it to inspire you to sing or play music better. But stop taking credit for yourself by the heroes you've chosen. (btw I had the presence of mind to answer both factually and beneficially: "Yes, but your Dad's stronger." FOUR year olds need and deserve that.)

Blogger Argus Bacchus December 20, 2019 4:22 PM  

@2

If it forces him to resort to using bottles, it's definitely going to be a no go.

Blogger Steb December 20, 2019 4:23 PM  

I'd have another go at that question. All I can imagine happening is Nick saying Americans have to live with multiculturalism because it's a fact of life, Vox countering that one day it won't be, and Nick saying that in that case they wouldn't have to live with it, but they do for now.

What's the central conflict?

Blogger Ileftwhenowenstartedlovingmussies December 20, 2019 4:26 PM  

Nicks busy with action. You’re not busy, you start many projects and finish few. You’re what we call “unreliable” or “Italian”. Quick to collect and accuse but short on results or substance. You rely on Q fantasy. Sorry, most of us aren’t just gonna move away from North America. You seeded the battle field and now stomp around in a foreign land. Enjoy your exile. Be more quiet about it, perhaps? Or not. Your blog and your life. Even if unfulfilled promises paid for it.

Blogger Rattlesnake_Kid December 20, 2019 4:30 PM  

It's a shame to see a potentially effective Deus Vulter fold because of vanity. That his fear of his persona being possibly tarnished by defeat outweighs his willingness to engage in conflict is a sure sign that his time in the limelight will be short. The real question is, will he bend the knee to globohomo in order to stick around as that time approaches? Vanity is a simple weakness to manipulate, I'd gamble yes.

Blogger Fuzzums Wuzzums December 20, 2019 4:31 PM  

Whatever Nick says Vox will win because all he has to say is: "Nick, you eat your own boogers. Your opinions are irrelevant."

Blogger Balam December 20, 2019 4:34 PM  

@Steb
That is a pretty disingenuous resolution to try and save face if he tries it.Imagine Nick and I were roommates and a giant dog turd was in the room. ''In the case that someone takes out the turd we wouldn't have to live with it, but we do for now.'' In that scenario neither of us 'have' to live with the turd and I win the argument. 'Have to', as in you have no alternative.

Blogger David December 20, 2019 4:43 PM  

Imagine how depressed he must be to know people like this are his followers...

Blogger guardianDogg December 20, 2019 4:45 PM  

When has Fuentes once defended and or debated his beliefs with someone of equal or superior intelligence? He's so boring. I tried watching one of stream shows but there's nothing there. No serious pursuit and love of truth. He would be interesting if there was glimmer of chance he would defend his beliefs.

Blogger CCP December 20, 2019 5:00 PM  

I mumble "Little Nickey Titty Baby" to myself throughout the day and smile. LNTB

Blogger Crew December 20, 2019 5:03 PM  

I wonder if little Nicky is the guy who goes by the handle bigdicknick over at Unz.com?

Blogger GM December 20, 2019 5:07 PM  

Steb wrote:I'd have another go at that question. All I can imagine happening is Nick saying Americans have to live with multiculturalism because it's a fact of life, Vox countering that one day it won't be, and Nick saying that in that case they wouldn't have to live with it, but they do for now.

What's the central conflict?


I listen to Nick probably two times a week, and I've heard him say multiple times that he doesn't substantially disagree with Vox on the question of the ultimate viability of multi-racialism or on the 6 million question.

Nick isn't a media whore, nor is he a philosopher or commentator. He is a politician. He has picked 1) immigration halt/demographics, 2) Christian morality and 3) Israeli influence on foreign policy as his program because he believes that there is a large subset of conventional conservatives who will come his way on these issues if he can get a hearing. This is why he wants to debate Shapiro or Kirk, and not Vox. He can peel off Shapiro's supporters. All a debate with Vox will do is make explicit what he is keeping implicit for the time being.

The other point that I'll make, as a semi-regularly listener to Nick, is that Nick is genuinely ambivalent about leading the average crowd. On the weekly sweat, which is the context where I think he is least "on" as a politician, the general theme is "fuck the fans," and I can tell by listening to him that Nick is dealing with stupid comments from average intellects because he has too, not because he likes the attention.

My take is that, hesitant as I am to disagree with Vox, who I've watched get these things right over and over again, Vox's read of Nick is based on an small set of the relevant facts (e.g. Nick's obvious screw up with that MTV interview, the language Nick uses to dodge a debate with Vox, and the conflict with Owen).

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother December 20, 2019 5:11 PM  

If you're debating Little Nicky, you'll have to of course tackle the all important question of Popeye's fried chicken, and whether or not it is indeed the shiznet.

Blogger Al K. Annossow December 20, 2019 5:15 PM  

In the movie 'The Natural,' a very talented and very famous baseball player was being stalked by a femme fatale. When an unknown newcomer bested him in a one-on-one contest, she turned her attention to that new guy. And shot him. Some fans just aren't worth having.

Blogger papabear December 20, 2019 5:16 PM  

Generation Soy doesn't know what it is to be a virtuous adult male, that is the problem...

Blogger M Cephas December 20, 2019 5:23 PM  

"That's why he made it a written debate on a topic Nick isn't interested in".

There's two points made there Vox. You made it a written debate AND you made it on a subject Nick isn't interested in.

If you are serious about debating him, make it a subject that he would actually be interested in, and make it a live online debate. Otherwise your saying that he's "running away" is no different than people saying you "ran away" from Jay Dyer.

I enjoy content from both of you, but I've followed you a lot longer than Nick. I think you just let Owen dupe you into attacking him. I could be wrong on that, but I don't think I am.

Blogger peacefulposter December 20, 2019 5:25 PM  

Nick just confronted Shapiru on the street in Florida. Shapiru just kept on walking.

Blogger furor kek tonicus ( no need to be racist, Ratchets can Karen better than anybody ) December 20, 2019 5:26 PM  

7. Ileftwhenowenstartedlovingmussies December 20, 2019 4:26 PM
You’re not busy,


okay, fag.

Blogger Rek. December 20, 2019 5:33 PM  

Whats the over/under that Nick is approved/controlled/FED opposition on top of being a gamma male with typical unstable and fragile inflated ego?

Blogger Fuzzums Wuzzums December 20, 2019 5:34 PM  

guardianDogg wrote:When has Fuentes once defended and or debated his beliefs with someone of equal or superior intelligence?

He debated Catholicism with Jay Dyer. He lost. But he's so young, you see! Poor Nicky.

peacefulposter wrote:Nick just confronted Shapiru on the street in Florida. Shapiru just kept on walking.

I'm dying to know who was taller?

Blogger R Webfoot December 20, 2019 5:37 PM  

@6
"Nick saying that in that case they wouldn't have to live with it, but they do for now."

Well, there are things people can do now. For example, Nick could move out of his mother's basement and relocate to somewhere more demographically favorable.

@1
"Isn't he essentially Benji but with a supposedly alt-right view."

See, I was just thinking that his facial expressions when he goes into pure rhetoric look about like Benji's. It's the exaggerated facial expressions, I think. Shapiru 2?

Blogger James Lovebirch December 20, 2019 5:37 PM  

@7

The username really says it all. Git

Blogger VD December 20, 2019 5:42 PM  

There's two points made there Vox. You made it a written debate AND you made it on a subject Nick isn't interested in.

Yes, and your second point was so obviously false that it didn't even bear mentioning. Nick is very interested in the subject of multiracialism in the United States and it is his own words that he is being called to defend.

More importantly, do you really think I care about the subject debated? All you're trying to accomplish is to add one more step that I will take without hesitation. It makes no difference what the subject is, be it religion, science, history, or politics. He is not in my league and he almost certainly knows it, even if you don't.

Otherwise your saying that he's "running away" is no different than people saying you "ran away" from Jay Dyer.

No. Even Jay Dyer knows I didn't run away from him. Jay and I respect each other's knowledge bases. But there is absolutely no subject upon which Nick is willing to debate me, because none of them will do him any good. But by all means, suggest one to him and get back to me.

I think you just let Owen dupe you into attacking him. I could be wrong on that, but I don't think I am.

You are wrong. In fact, your comment has had more to do with me attacking him than anything Owen ever did. It's specifically thanks to you that I'm going to continue to pin him down no matter how he twists and turns. So, well done.

Blogger JHypers December 20, 2019 5:51 PM  

All anyone needs to imagine the outcome of a Vox/Nickels debate is to search up the Andrew Anglin “debate” where Vox readily boiled the experience down to a classic example of what it’s like when people with 2+ SD IQ diff. attempt to communicate.

Blogger Noah B. December 20, 2019 5:53 PM  

Don't countersignal me, bro!

Blogger Ominous Cowherd December 20, 2019 5:54 PM  

Stg58/Animal Mother wrote:If you're debating Little Nicky, you'll have to of course tackle the all important question of Popeye's fried chicken, and whether or not it is indeed the shiznet.
Pretty sure if Black Lives Mattered, that shiznet would be outlawed. Every story about Popeye's Fried Chicken turns out to be a ``guess the race'' story.

Blogger tweell December 20, 2019 6:00 PM  

I honestly don't see any use to this, myself. There is very little better than a good debate. Iron sharpeneth iron; so a man sharpeneth the countenance of his friend. To pit viewpoint against viewpoint to scrape away misconceptions, flake off poor ideas, and join together to forge a stronger way - that is what a debate should be. Everyone wins. Chances of that happening here are slim, very slim.

Blogger Requited Hate December 20, 2019 6:05 PM  

I'm dying to know who was taller?

Rogans don't have negative values.

Blogger Requited Hate December 20, 2019 6:10 PM  

Nick just confronted Shapiru on the street in Florida. Shapiru just kept on walking.

Time and place. Shapiru was crossing the street with his children. LittleNickyTittyBabby should stop being a cunt.

Blogger TheKman December 20, 2019 6:13 PM  

Will Nick earn some respect from you if he shows up to debate and puts on a "good fight"?

Blogger Sweet, Sweet Victory December 20, 2019 6:17 PM  

Why "nicklers" instead of nickgers? They are just the same.

Blogger Revan December 20, 2019 6:27 PM  

VD wrote an entire book about Jordan Peterson largely due to the behavior of his fans on this blog and the Darkstream.

What are the odds that Little Nicky's fans accomplish the same thing within the next year?

Blogger Fuzzums Wuzzums December 20, 2019 6:35 PM  

Requited Hate wrote:Rogans don't have negative values.

Explain this then: https://imgur.com/a/Gp0UtEy

Blogger SirHamster December 20, 2019 6:37 PM  

TheKman wrote:Will Nick earn some respect from you if he shows up to debate and puts on a "good fight"?

How is this even a question? Putting up a fight, even when outclassed, is respectable.

So is conceding and showing respect for the challenger's prowess.

But smack-talking, offering debate on a different topic, and then fleeing the followup challenge is not.

Blogger Balkan Yankee December 20, 2019 7:13 PM  

Trick Nickster and the Flammable Gammas.

Blogger Lovekraft December 20, 2019 7:16 PM  

15 GM:

"All a debate with Vox will do is make explicit what he is keeping implicit for the time being."

Your comment was pretty solid. Brought the debate question forward. When we see the left's version of debate consist of bike locks to heads and knocking down elderly women, it is relevant to how we determine our method of advancing the narrative push.

There's many here who've seen cycles ebb and flow

Blogger D E K December 20, 2019 7:19 PM  

Maybe childish, but every little Nicky video suggested to me by YT gets a Rogan down and a "you are running away from Vox" comment.

Blogger jkmack December 20, 2019 7:22 PM  

boogers and milk, boogers and milk, screw the dread ilk, all i want is boogers and milk.

My Apologies to the host, but I felt I need to speak to them on their level. I will go rinse with some Corinthians I and pray for more patience, charity, and humility.

Blogger Garuna December 20, 2019 7:25 PM  

You made it a written debate AND you made it on a subject Nick isn't interested in.

Are you actually a fucking idiot or only pretending to be one?

Everyone knows Nick is running because of optics. I doubt Nick would even deny it if you asked him in person.

Blogger JG December 20, 2019 7:25 PM  

Bojangles is way better than Popeyes. I'll debate anyone on this, be it Jay Dyer, the Littlest Chickenhawk, or Little Nicky Titty Baby.

Blogger VD December 20, 2019 7:43 PM  

Will Nick earn some respect from you if he shows up to debate and puts on a "good fight"?

Certainly. However, I do not think at all well of him accosting Ben Shapiru when the Littlest Chickenhawk was out with his family. For someone who is supposedly focused on optics, that was an excessively stupid move.

Blogger Teek-Lor December 20, 2019 7:46 PM  

Nick just did some street theater- slouching as he tries to confront Ben carrying his kid and the mom pushing a stroller. Horrible optics which will make every normie with kids hate him.

Blogger Ska_Boss December 20, 2019 8:02 PM  

The groypers are proving to be more of a nuisance than boomers. An incredible feat.

Blogger Requited Hate December 20, 2019 8:13 PM  

Explain this then: https://imgur.com/a/Gp0UtEy

Well then. I stand corrected.

Blogger Dole December 20, 2019 8:20 PM  

You know the person is a gamma when he accuses someone who proposes a debate afraid of debating.

I believe they are running away, only faster now. We will see...

Blogger nswhorse December 20, 2019 8:25 PM  

Pretty sure they're both smaller than the margin of measurement error.

Blogger Servant December 20, 2019 8:27 PM  

We do have to live with multiculturalism though. So long as there is a United States of America, English descent citizens of that country are restrained by law and custom from doing anything about that.

Even if an English descent citizen tried to move to a demographically favorable area, that area can be targeted by organizations for flooding by "refugees" ie Maine and Minnesota.

Since that is easier to do than overriding law and custom, multiculturalism will hang over our heads until such time as the United States ceases to exist.

There is a more insidious threat though. Liberals flee their shit holes and bring their politics with them. I understand why a San Franciscan would leave and move to Florida, but he's allowed to vote. I have little in common with an English descent citizen of California but people want to put us in the same bag. My people hail from Maine though I was born and raised in Florida, so really people I identify with have to put up with my ways, and while eventually I plan to move back to Maine God willing, I'm still tainted. I'm far more gregarious than the average Mainer.

I minimize engagement with nonsense, which keeps down the amount of multi culti I have to deal with, but I don't see it hitting zero without some serious "no more USA" stuff going down.

What am I missing?

Blogger Shane Bradman December 20, 2019 8:54 PM  

To say he's obsessed with optics, he's very skilled at fucking up and looking like a spiteful dickhead. What a dumbass.

Blogger damaris.tighe December 20, 2019 8:57 PM  

@Vox Day
With the best will in the world I cannot imagine the 20 year old Vox being "respectful" of his elders etc. Arrogance is at its peak in these years.

Nick's rhetorical style is axe murder, so it's easy to see why he gets opponents on the back foot. And as we know, rhetoric tends to win over dialectic in performative situations - particularly in internet bloodsports.

Blogger M Cephas December 20, 2019 9:01 PM  

But there is absolutely no subject upon which Nick is willing to debate me, because none of them will do him any good. But by all means, suggest one to him and get back to me.

I suggested two possible topics to him via email that I think would make a good debate. Hopefully he'll respond after the holidays.

You are wrong. In fact, your comment has had more to do with me attacking him than anything Owen ever did.

You attacked Nick long before I made any comments, and my comments have been respectful. If you're talking about Nickers that overreacted to what you said about Nick, I am not them.

It's specifically thanks to you that I'm going to continue to pin him down no matter how he twists and turns. So, well done

I don't know why you would even want to. As Nick said: "If they want to countersignal me, if they want to be unproductive, I'm making the Right fresh and interesting again, if they want to oppose that, that's their prerogative" .

Blogger VD December 20, 2019 9:23 PM  

You attacked Nick long before I made any comments, and my comments have been respectful.

I'm talking about this one. I intended to simply ignore him until you and the others kept trying to spin a false narrative.

Of course, now that we have all discovered that Little Nicky is actually retarded when it comes to optics, none of this is likely to matter. Shapiru and the Daily Wire are going to hammer him for weeks, if not months, for that pogrom to which he subjected Shapiru's family.

Blogger VD December 20, 2019 9:26 PM  

With the best will in the world I cannot imagine the 20 year old Vox being "respectful" of his elders etc.

I very much was respectful. I was acquainted with more than a few Senators, Congressmen, generals, and admirals.

Blogger HouellebecqGurl December 20, 2019 9:32 PM  

Debates *may* be the gayest thing, EVER.
I hate all of them.

Blogger sammibandit December 20, 2019 9:35 PM  

With the best will in the world I cannot imagine the 20 year old Vox being "respectful" of his elders etc. Arrogance is at its peak in these years.

Being sigma or being arrogant has no bearing on respect. The most arrogant people I know, and being half Scandic I know many as we tend to group together, are some of the most respectful people I've ever met. It legit sounds like you just have distaste for trait arrogance--something that the arrogant neither care about or think less of themselves for.

Blogger Kiwi December 20, 2019 9:45 PM  

@ 3. Storm Rhode

Have some respect.

Blogger roundeye December 20, 2019 9:45 PM  

The lad is 21 or 22 or so. Losing a debate, or a fistfight or whatever merely hurts. Losing sucks and one can learn. Not fighting is a cancer, will always suck.

I always remember the time I declined a fight 35 years ago. It still hurts. I should have taken the beating.

Blogger Kiwi December 20, 2019 9:46 PM  

I still don't know who this Nick kid is, I was waiting for the debate. I might never know!

Blogger R Webfoot December 20, 2019 10:02 PM  

"It is very important that we never do anything that looks bad... Hey, is that Ben Shapiro? Hold my swastika and watch this."

Blogger damaris.tighe December 20, 2019 10:20 PM  

sammibandit wrote:With the best will in the world I cannot imagine the 20 year old Vox being "respectful" of his elders etc. Arrogance is at its peak in these years.

Being sigma or being arrogant has no bearing on respect. The most arrogant people I know, and being half Scandic I know many as we tend to group together, are some of the most respectful people I've ever met. It legit sounds like you just have distaste for trait arrogance--something that the arrogant neither care about or think less of themselves for.


Hi Sammi, you are correct. I regret how slowly I grew out of my arrogance - my son put me to shame on how much faster he became a more civilized and generous person.

P.S. I developed my own theory of the male social-sexual hierarchy based on dogs.

I even have a Gamma analogue based on the disgraceful behaviour of one of my Boxers.

Blogger Kiwi December 20, 2019 10:21 PM  

Speaking of unreliable Italians. Yesterday, I had some imported Italian Christmas cake. The amount of buttery floury folds required to create that airy density of deliciousness would impress a Japanese swordsmith. My point is, and one I thought as I ate, if the Italians were so unreliable, how could that make such a cake! Impossible.

Blogger Andy'scurious December 20, 2019 10:25 PM  

Nick confronted shapiru while shapiru was with his family and in the middle of a crosswalk .
Leaving alone nick was surrounded by his fans and streamers , a family doesnt stop in the middle of an intersection and a good man doesnt create a scene in the presence of children .
If optics are Nick's thing , imagine the optics of making children cry in traffic with a dad carrying child and oushi g a carriage .
It was ignorant at best , selfish and ego driven at worst .
If Nick's a leader I'm a moon walking astronaut.

Blogger Theproductofafineeduction December 20, 2019 10:32 PM  

You are wrong.

Blogger Son of John December 20, 2019 10:33 PM  

Nick's muscle structure looks weird. looks like he's never done one iota of physical work in his pampered little life.

Blogger Marcus D December 20, 2019 10:33 PM  

Check out Nick's jutting out head. The kid lives in front of a screen. Try some pull-ups Nick.

Blogger tublecane December 20, 2019 11:05 PM  

@6- On Vox's timeline it will be unlivable within our lives, I believe. So no, you won't be able to live through it. Unless you're lucky and/or have high walls with razorwire and a security detail.

Blogger M Cephas December 20, 2019 11:55 PM  

I intended to simply ignore him until you and the others kept trying to spin a false narrative.

I thought I was correct in my interpretation of the written debate request at the time.

Of course, now that we have all discovered that Little Nicky is actually retarded when it comes to optics, none of this is likely to matter. Shapiru and the Daily Wire are going to hammer him for weeks, if not months, for that pogrom to which he subjected Shapiru's family.

It'll be interesting to see how this one turns out. Maybe Ben Shapiru will actually mention him by name.

Blogger Doktor Jeep December 21, 2019 12:49 AM  

A this point I think little Nicky's relevance is such that debating him in any manner is going to be as worthwhile as explaining euclidean geometry to a budgie.

Blogger Storm Rhode December 21, 2019 2:27 AM  

I wonder if your recent stream will help any Groypers to give up on Nick, and maybe join us. I hope so.

Blogger Brainspirit December 21, 2019 6:28 AM  

Yeah Nick,lets debate positions you dont actually hold by exchanging essays like on Reddit.

Blogger Tars Tarkas December 21, 2019 9:59 AM  

Ben handled that interaction really poorly. He literally hid behind his wife and her children. He put her between him and Nick. The fact that there was no way in hell Nick was going to attack him is even more reason he should have walked between Nick and his wife.

Shapiru came out behind Nick on this one, IMHO. Shapriu's cowardice cost him an easy win. Nick really did something stupid and only Ben's cowardice saved Nick from making a fool of himself. This cowardice is how Ben came out of the tranny incident looking so bad.

Blogger VD December 21, 2019 10:37 AM  

Ben handled that interaction really poorly.

He did. No question.

Shapiru came out behind Nick on this one, IMHO.

That's utterly retarded. Nick all but nuked himself and his dimwitted incelibate fans are too socially oblivious to understand how that looked to most normal people.

I wonder if your recent stream will help any Groypers to give up on Nick, and maybe join us.

Considering that they're dumb enough to think posting RAPE dozens of time in the stream chat is an effective tactic, I wouldn't hold your breath. These are very stupid young men. Their anger at society is largely justified, but their behavior and lack of discernment renders them ridiculous.

Blogger Unknown December 21, 2019 1:58 PM  

I think Vox is right about Nick having made a poor decision, he shouldn't have followed him around. A short quip would have sufficed.

I really dont understand the material difference between nick and vox though, they are both the Christian wing of the dissident right, just different tactics and talents.

Blogger rcocean December 21, 2019 3:40 PM  

Nicky vs. Shapiro -what a lame "Confrontation". After being kicked out of TPUSA, Nick goes to cross the street and then see Shapiro on the other side. He walks past Shapiro in the middle of the CROSSWALK and asks when Shaprio will debate him. Sharpiro says nothing and blows by him at Warp factor 10. Nick then follows him for 60 seconds - always staying about 5 yards behind - and then stops and talks to the 12 people who are videotaping it.

Blogger Balam December 21, 2019 4:04 PM  

@sammibandit
''Being sigma or being arrogant has no bearing on respect. The most arrogant people I know, and being half Scandic I know many as we tend to group together, are some of the most respectful people I've ever met''

In a surprising twist sigma can be the most respectful people in America merely because being respectful is out of popular favor right now. One is among by best friends and the sigma treats figures deserving of respect like a man out of a black and white movie. When normies think of respect they refer to what they saw on TV instead of what the target would feel respected by.

Blogger Kiwi December 21, 2019 5:18 PM  

Confession time. Last night I looked up this itty bitty titty guy. To my surprise I was looking at a Shapiro clone, albeit younger and less experienced in the acting department, but basically from the same soap mold.

What was more entertaining was when I saw them lathering it up on the street, could men be that short! I thought Shapiru was a kid caring a kid, not joking. I'm still laughing about their tenyness. That's the enemy!

Blogger rcocean December 21, 2019 5:42 PM  

People need to understand there was no "Scene" Sharpiro and his family walked quickly past Nicky. Fuentes when followed at a respectful distance - shouting questions - for about 60 seconds. There was no "Confrontation". Once Nick got within about 100 yards of the hotel he stopped and Shapiro motored on in. Other than yelling "Why don't you debate me?" and "What are you afraid of?" to Sharpiro's BACK, Nick did nothing. And I"m NOT a Fuentes fan! I just don't this to escalate into another insane Monica Fields myth.

Blogger VD December 21, 2019 5:46 PM  

People need to understand there was no "Scene" Sharpiro and his family walked quickly past Nicky. Fuentes when followed at a respectful distance - shouting questions - for about 60 seconds.

Give it up. He accosted a man who was out with his family. He crossed a line that you simply do not cross. No one is claiming that he actually attacked Shapiro or anything. Deal with it.

Blogger Ransom Smith December 21, 2019 6:16 PM  

Fuentes when followed at a respectful distance - shouting questions - for about 60 seconds.
Following a person's family is crazy person mentality.
A taller man than Shapiru may have slugged Nick right to the ground.

Blogger Dan in Georgia December 21, 2019 7:06 PM  

M Cephas wrote:I intended to simply ignore him until you and the others kept trying to spin a false narrative.

I thought I was correct in my interpretation of the written debate request at the time.

Of course, now that we have all discovered that Little Nicky is actually retarded when it comes to optics, none of this is likely to matter. Shapiru and the Daily Wire are going to hammer him for weeks, if not months, for that pogrom to which he subjected Shapiru's family.

It'll be interesting to see how this one turns out. Maybe Ben Shapiru will actually mention him by name.


This was so bad for Fuentes, it almost looks like a trap.

"Nice Orthodox Jewish family walking together, minding their own business gets swarmed by neo-Nazis."

I don't think this was set up by Shapiru, but it may as well have been. And he won't let an opportunity like this go by. Whenever he wants to refer to Fuentes without speaking his name, all he has to do is call him "Little Adolf and his Brownshirts."

Stick a fork in Nicky, he's done.

Blogger Statix December 22, 2019 5:33 AM  

I don't think Vox was "duped" into anything. If you'd recall, Vox was initially trying to stay out of the drama between Nick & Owen. It's when a set of Nick's annoying gamma fans started to persistently pester & annoy Vox, that he started to go on the offensive.

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